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[river garden]

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[dark mason]

What

[quick blaze]

they're out here

calling me an 'expert'

[carmine oasis]

Loool

[tidal sierra]

[carmine oasis]

Expert

[twin wolf]

Why do you need my token? ☠️

[dark mason]

I am asking about the fake forensics sparrow part

[tidal sierra]

Don't share ur token here

[twin wolf]

Nevermind gifs aren't that important 😂

[tidal sierra]

Or ur cooked

[dark mason]

To verify? It's in your tryhackme settings

[twin wolf]

Ohhhhh

I'm a goober I got you

[strong fjord]

You're gonna need it someday

[quick blaze]

i am the forensics sparrow

👍🏽

[dark mason]

Yeah, not your actual discord token

[dark mason]

Lies

I am the one and only sparrow around here

[carmine oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hacking-gif-18396753

[twin wolf]

What!?

[blissful current]

[strong fjord]

Yeah

[tidal sierra]

؟

[quick blaze]

fair

[twin wolf]

Oh God... Did I win??

[strong fjord]

GIFs are essential

[quick blaze]

also im gonna give you a memory analysis chall soon @dark mason

if you solve it

then uhh

[dark wolf]

There are some really interesting encoded messages in that gif

[quick blaze]

i shall call you forensics sparrow

[dark wolf]

Have you looked?

[carmine oasis]

No

[dark wolf]

You should

It's funny

[twin wolf]

How

[blissful current]

[strong fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-steals-sushi-cat-viralhog-sneaky-cat-takes-sushi-sushi-thief-cat-gif-307272247298130892

[twin wolf]

Yes

[strong fjord]

Yum yum yum

[twin wolf]

Ooh now I can use custom emojis!

[carmine oasis]

Yeah

[twin wolf]

[wary compass]

hi

[strong fjord]

It's my first time trying chipotle two days ago and it was fire 🔥 what should I get next

[twin wolf]

ih

Message undone

[dark wolf]

Goin in or coming out?

[wary compass]

ah reversie

rtl

[twin wolf]

rtl?

Rules to Frick?

[wary compass]

right to left

[strong fjord]

Like taking the food home?

[twin wolf]

Oh

That DOES make more sense... Indeed...

[wary compass]

lol cus the message is going right to left instead of left to right like english does

[strong fjord]

Oh shiot

I just realized what you meant

[dark wolf]

No, I was referring to the fire. The spice, did you feel in the consumption or the extraction hours later?

[strong fjord]

Both for sure

But not Taco bell level

[wary compass]

is chipotle actually spicy?

[strong fjord]

Not really

[dark wolf]

Yeah Taco bell should be the regimine for colonoscopy prep

[wary compass]

ah okay so bring hot sauce

[twin wolf]

Yes

[strong fjord]

I recommend Dave's hot 🐔 if u want the spicy spocy

[twin wolf]

Egg

You are an egg.

[strong fjord]

[wary compass]

i have franks redhot and one that is called the f***ing hot one

[strong fjord]

Dave's hit chicken is just 🤌

[lavish vessel]

is the hint being shown in the AI chatbot new?

[wary compass]

oh wait is that not a hot sauce?

[carmine oasis]

Chicken nuggets

[twin wolf]

Oh fungal warts, I need to pack

[strong fjord]

Franks red hot is alright

[wary compass]

ill try it if im ever up in america

[strong fjord]

Nope it's chicken tenders and sandwiches

[wary compass]

yeah i prefer the other one i have

[dark wolf]

Idk, the AI chatbot keeps asking if I need help so I finally said ok and asked it a question and it said "I'm too busy try again later" and I was like then why the heck did you ask me. what a dick

[wary compass]

my jerk bbq sauce is hotter than franks red hot

[wind lake]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-cursed-glitch-gif-20741188

[strong fjord]

I have little information about sauces because the ones that are really hit are expensive

[twin wolf]

And I needsta school prepare! I hafsta abandon my post within the confines of my lovely bedroom, to instead face the world in attempt to better my education.

[lavish vessel]

bro i am sick of AI being forced down my throat

[twin wolf]

How crude.

[strong fjord]

The ones from Hot Ones show

[wary compass]

yeah i spend a lot on food stuff lol

[twin wolf]

True

[wind lake]

i went to school during covid i sat at home all day ezpz

[wind lake]

yep

[strong fjord]

But try Merlinda's ghost pepper sauce

It hits when you put alot

[twin wolf]

It's not that time anymore.

[dark wolf]

Many people feel that way but the oligarchs paying the paychecks feel differnt

[carmine oasis]

Because it filters/ or avoid to answer

[wary compass]

was gonna say ghost pepper isnt that hot lol

[twin wolf]

We're older than we've ever been.

And now we're even older.

[elder crown]

I feel like im the only person who kinda likes AI😭

[wary compass]

is there a media channel?

[dark wolf]

I'm older now than when I started typing this

[twin wolf]

AI is great. The Flipper Zero is great. Neither are taking over the world or replacing jobs.

[strong fjord]

Yeah not really but it's the hottest sauce I owned since it's the only one available on the shelves 🤣

[carmine oasis]

Yeah

[strong fjord]

A local friend got me a carolina reaper sauce it's one of the best I've ever had

[wary compass]

tbf hottest i own is scotch bonnet not much better lol

[dark wolf]

I don't know about that, i saw a job posting the other day and one of the requirements were:

• Must be a Flipper Zero, humans need not apply

[wary compass]

man i remember the flipper zero was first coming out and my mom wouldnt let me buy one lol

[elder crown]

i had to look up what the flipper zero is

[twin wolf]

WHAT?

[mossy river]

Duolingo and Spotify disagree with this

[wary compass]

.

[twin wolf]

This is a good point tbf...

[wind lake]

and both suck now! huh funny how that works eh

[mossy river]

You'll also notice that when employees were fired and replaced by AI... the quality of their products went down

[elder crown]

ngl, never heard of it, or maybe i have?

[mossy river]

Same page club Jazz 🤣

[twin wolf]

Duolingo's ads are laughably bad though...

[carmine oasis]

AI just speed up the process in every thing

[wind lake]

yuuuup

[wary compass]

how lol

[twin wolf]

I wonder if they work??

[strong fjord]

I wanna try pepper x some day. Too bad only one company sells a sauce version

[wary compass]

not really

[twin wolf]

Yeah...

[wary compass]

pepper x fuck yeah

[dark wolf]

I used duolingo to learn spanish

[wary compass]

tbh im not even good with spice but im getting my tolerance up there

almost threw up with some spicy ass chicken the other day

[twin wolf]

Again, the tools designed first are fine. The AI tools are mediocre at best. Look at the pro ads. Listen to their "voices."

[elder crown]

Just never heard of it. Im new to tech so i never looked into a hacking tool

[wary compass]

ah okay

[twin wolf]

The jokes are weird, uncomfortable and off-putting.

[quick blaze]

i dunno i still have pretty good music ^_^

[deft sky]

hi guyz

[quick blaze]

and i have premium ^_^

[strong fjord]

Damn this conversation got me craving for a carolina reaper sandwich from Dave's

[dark wolf]

I just went through the courses they have, but the Spanish-English Learning Server on Discord helped a lot more

[wary compass]

why

[quick blaze]

on spotify..?

[wary compass]

yes lol

[twin wolf]

I should do something similar tbh, trying to learn Japanese so I can read this STUPID Wii U I have.

[dark wolf]

i have premium on spotify, i don't like ads

[quick blaze]

cause..i want ad-free songs?

[elder crown]

like BRAND NEW, I'm literally just taking my first computer class in college. Visual basic programming

[wary compass]

do yall not use adblockers?

[quick blaze]

don't block em out completely + your UI is a complete circus when you do use em

[dark wolf]

on the iphone app?

[twin wolf]

I technically forced a translation, but the file systems are slightly off, jailbreak support needs translating, and errors do too. I'm just gonna learn the language. ☠️

[carmine oasis]

The weakest chain in security is still human. Not the server not the firewall not the AI technology that the company uses

[wind lake]

the music on spotify isnt the problem obv. i dont use any of the features that are affected by ai either

[blissful current]

[wary compass]

spotify++

[wind lake]

but i detest the use of it in and involving music

[quick blaze]

so.. 👀

[quick blaze]

oh yes fair

[wind lake]

keep that shit out of art

[quick blaze]

absolutely

fair

[dark wolf]

My goal 30 years ago was not to pay for anything, now i can afford it and don't care

[wary compass]

ohhh nvm

[lavish vessel]

yeah because the idiots calling the shots and signing the checks don't actually use this shit

[twin wolf]

What is the bird called that sings "Cheeeeeeese-bur-ger"

[wary compass]

tbh i cant say shit i have youtube premium which is probably worse

[quick blaze]

just..get uBlock

[lavish vessel]

bm te vi

[wind lake]

🤷‍♀️

[kind spruce]

Hi everyone

[wind lake]

spotify CEO evil

[dark wolf]

You don't use adblockers??

[elder crown]

I've used AI art to get a general idea of a character i want made, but if i officially made the character id never use it

[wind lake]

i just got rid of my sub. i use apple music

[carmine oasis]

No matter what kind of AI the company use.

And how much they invest in securing the system.

Humans/ employees are still relatively easy hack able.

[twin wolf]

Oh my GOSH you were right!!

[strong fjord]

Are you Bruce Wayne by any chance

[elder crown]

AI music sounds cursed

[wary compass]

i do but my mom wont let me on the tv lol

[wind lake]

yeah i think thats a valid use, brainstorming

[dark wolf]

AI in the way they deploy it is hackable due to AI Prompt Injection

[twin wolf]

Thank you, new favorite human.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lavish vessel (current: #1242 - 4)

[elder crown]

i had an artist block me last time i told her that😭

[lavish vessel]

lol you from brazil?

[wary compass]

well technically you cant on the tv you can sideload a modified youtube client to it and a modified browser cus it runs of tizenos fuck you samsung

and my mom doesnt want me sideloading to or jailbreaking any of our tvs

[lavish vessel]

your moms right having a jailbroken TV on the network could be a vulnerability to the local network

smart lady

[wary compass]

my mom knows nothing of tech

all my shit is jailbroken otherwise lol

[lavish vessel]

jk shes just tired of you breaking stuff lol

[wary compass]

except my iphone 12 and iphone 8 the iphone 8 is on a dev acc and the iphone 12 is semi jb

[carmine oasis]

Appreciate your parents.

[wary compass]

i have broken a lot of computers in dumb ways

[wind lake]

thats valid of them. everyone has a right to their opinion. a lot of people will say absolutely none. and i get it 100%

[lavish vessel]

called it lol

[half onyx]

Warranty goes out the window

[wary compass]

she just thinks im gonna get arrested cus of it

[carmine oasis]

You don't even know how much time is left for you to see them.

[keen light]

i need to see some rice

[wary compass]

probably aint got warranty anyways

[lavish vessel]

man I remember installing linux on my grandfathers old desktop without asking

[wary compass]

tbf one was dropping it off a desk

[half onyx]

I read grandfathers clock

[dark frost]

https://tenor.com/view/rice-chef-chris-cho-cooked-rice-asian-rice-cooking-gif-20952894

[wary compass]

and 2 were laptops with pepsi/dr pepper spilled on them

[lavish vessel]

this was back in like 2008 or something I bet. I couldn't get the network card to work and had no idea how to figure it out

[wary compass]

anyways cap your drinks next to a laptop on your bed

[elder crown]

I understand the crashout, but she was rude af about it.

[wind lake]

yeahhh

[lavish vessel]

no one could figure out how to get windows back on it and I got in some deep shit over it lol

[wary compass]

old network cards didnt interface with linux a lot of the time right?

[lavish vessel]

right, you had to configure them manually in the terminal a lot of the time

[wary compass]

sorry i was born in 08 and suck with tech lol so im not entirely sure

[wary compass]

ah yeah okay

[lavish vessel]

if im not mistaken you had to manually set the network IP and all kinda stuff

wireless cards worked better if memory serves correct

oddly enough

[wary compass]

i spoke about something similar with someone not long ago

[lavish vessel]

damn bro you missed everything

[wary compass]

they said that the uhh

usb ports sometimes would be difficult too or something

[lavish vessel]

everything was difficult lol the most frustrating part would be the live CD working flawlessly then installing the OS and everything was broken

[wary compass]

lol yeah linux back then was hell from what ive heard

[lavish vessel]

and no longer having internet to research the problem

[wary compass]

you still wouldve caught my ass trynna install that shit

[lavish vessel]

cause the only device you had was the one you just installed on lol

[lavish vessel]

lol this was me for sure. You'd pop the disc back in and find what you needed and write it down by hand cause the printer didnt work either. and boot times were like 5 mins

[dark wolf]

What kind of question is that??????????????

REally?

[wary compass]

yeah i mean my nan and grandad had 1 computer and 5 kids im just imagining the hell of trynna play a game on it lol

[half onyx]

My grandpa agrees

[dark wolf]

full-blown is not a type of NIPS

[half onyx]

Playing Oregon trail would make the computer go BRRRRRRR

[lavish vessel]

what kinda nips son answer the question

[dark wolf]

I played Oregon trail in high school

[wary compass]

hard drive boots man

[lavish vessel]

this guy was playing on a comadore 64 bless

[wary compass]

my uncle had one of those lol

[half onyx]

What was your FPS

[dark wolf]

So did i, and we had a Vic 20

the predecessor

[wary compass]

okay vic 20 i havent heard of

[elder crown]

i kinda wanna buy a flipper zero now.....

[wary compass]

icl dont

[mossy river]

Honestly save your money

[half onyx]

You can win one in Havk2Win

[wary compass]

if you wanna mess with nfc or whatever buy something else that is specifically made for that cheaper cus you probably wont use it once the novelty wears off

[lavish vessel]

buld one of the clones from an esp 32

the marauder or whatever

[half onyx]

Atleast get the HackRF instead of flipper

[lavish vessel]

isnt a flipper one rumored too?

[polar spoke]

not really a rumor, it's being worked on

[elder crown]

its only 200$s but yeah i wont use it after the fun of it wears off

[twilit field]

jupp a HackrfOne is better than a flipper0 i think

[polar spoke]

they do completely different things

HackRF is an SDR

[lavish vessel]

wasnt sure cause the 0 took way longer to come out than they said

[half onyx]

Watch that a flipper could save your life

[lavish vessel]

idk being locked into a gadget is a great idea

[elder crown]

i cant think of a legal use id ever need it for💀

[half onyx]

Apocalypse

[lavish vessel]

im not that up to date on things but I almost feel like a raspberry pi with kali and different usb modules would be way more versatile

[half onyx]

It’s actually meant for ethical pentesters

[elder crown]

imma take a guess and say they are not allowed in hacking tournaments

[polar spoke]

it would be, though I think I'd skip kali for a little mobile device like that

[half onyx]

Config would be much more time consuming

[polar spoke]

pick something a bit lighter weight imo

[elder crown]

thats what i assumed, which i do wanna go into

[twilit field]

I think you can do more with a HackRF One...

[elder crown]

isnt that more expensive?

[half onyx]

Yeah if you’re wanting to go into pentesting I’d be a good tool

[polar spoke]

you need a computer for a lot of what you'd use a HackRF for

even with a portapack

[twilit field]

yayy.. is it

[half onyx]

Lmao you get what you pay for

[lavish vessel]

but I mean for everything a device like that can do idk if you're using every feature

[half onyx]

Especially in tech

[ripe sleet]

Hellllooo Jabbbbaaa! My college has us using THM rooms for our courses

[lavish vessel]

what would be sick is like an ESP 32 hooked up to a raspberry pi and an open source GUI with plug ins or something

[half onyx]

I wish my college did that. Screw this discrete math II bs

[twilit field]

jupp.. thats true... You just have to weigh up which activities you need something like that for.

[frail sparrow]

Hi

[lavish vessel]

the ideal would be somethin for your phone

[elder crown]

i changed majors literally a few days ago coz i didnt wanna do all the math in my CS degree. Going for IT now

[polar spoke]

that sounds horrible lol

[lavish vessel]

really if I see someone messing around with a flipper or hack one or what ever Its suspicious

[bleak quartz]

lmfao

[lavish vessel]

could be horrible depends on if VC funding is involved or not

[twilit field]

yupp.. u can used it like a imsi catcher or sm like that

[bleak quartz]

😭 yes

[polar spoke]

you can't 🙂

[half onyx]

It’s not fun. I’d do the same thing but I only got 4 classes left

[bleak quartz]

he saw one nethunter propaganda and now hes all in

[bleak quartz]

also the range

😭

[polar spoke]

lol oh god

[bleak quartz]

there's a reason why u want an adapter

[half onyx]

Might go for masters in cyber though.

Bachelors in comp sci and masters in cyber would be an OP stack tbh

[lavish vessel]

wym

[elder crown]

honestly i should have just stayed in CS, i do wanna pivot into game development one day and a CS/programming is important

[half onyx]

Yeah it’s more generalized that’s why I stayed

[bleak quartz]

😭 If you don't know what it is, just google and maybe don't comment 😭

[elder crown]

i do plan on getting a CS minor tho

[half onyx]

That’s good

[lavish vessel]

net hunter by offsec? the half baked project?

[half onyx]

You could do masters in ca

Cs

[lavish vessel]

why are you acting like a highschool bully lmao chill

[elder crown]

Or just bite the bullet and go for a CS masters after my IT bachelors

[bleak quartz]

?

[half onyx]

@elder crown check out WGU it’s worth it if you live a busy life

[elder crown]

yes lol, we got the same idea

[lavish vessel]

"just google and dont comment" with your dumb emoji lol

[half onyx]

It has a great masters cs program

[loud orbit]

Nothing on try hack me teaches you illegal hacking

Say whatttttt

What

[half onyx]

You can use it for illegal things

[gentle cloud]

fautaki

[bleak quartz]

commenting on something you don't know about is not really good

research first.

[half onyx]

I use GhostGPT for those activities

[carmine oasis]

Illegal hacking is dangerous and forbidden

[half onyx]

Jk

[polar spoke]

welcome to THM general chat

[elder crown]

I go to South Alabama university. out of state colleges might be more money than my Military TA covers 💀

[half onyx]

Apparently GhostGPT is illegal to even have

[bleak quartz]

Yeah, welp you gotta start from somewhere

[half onyx]

It’s a remote college and self paced. No homework. Just a test or project and it’s accredited.

It’s a chill life.

[lavish vessel]

so you don't know anything about it or I don't?

[half onyx]

You can test out of classes day one if you know your stuff

Someone got a whole bachelors degree in cyber within 6 months

And it’s 4k per semester (6 months)

Granted the dude that did it in 6 months and a ton of certs that transferred as college credit

[twilit field]

gn8 guys.. SOC shift starts tomorrow morning, sleep well

[lavish vessel]

so going back to you acting like a highschool bully maybe instead you could use it as an oppourtinity to be cool rather than "😭 If you don't know what it is, just google and maybe don't comment 😭"

like a dork lol

[half onyx]

WGU understands college scams students haha

[bleak quartz]

make a wild guess

[bleak quartz]

You're clearly projecting about something

[elder crown]

I do wanna attend in person tho, i wanna have a lil fun in college. Luckily im blessed with a mom to lets me live with her till i get my degree and the military pays for my school so i dont gotta work hard fr, i have plenty of free time to attend in person.

[bleak quartz]

No clue where you pulled those from

[wind lake]

sorry what's general?

[bleak quartz]

anywas Imma dip

[carmine oasis]

Good night hackers

[lavish vessel]

I mean why'd you start actng like a dbag?

[half onyx]

That’s the tradeoff. Can’t really enjoy it in person.

[lavish vessel]

explain that one

[half onyx]

But you get through it fast

[carmine oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-sleep-bedtime-gn-good-nite-gif-7992865519168581883

[polar spoke]

rough 🙂

[elder crown]

yeah or attend clubs but its sounds lit for cyber

[half onyx]

I’d say it’ll be a good idea for masters maybe

[wind lake]

Rough indeed :(

[half onyx]

Since a lot of your buddies will graduate with a 4 year degree and leave most likely

You’ll most likely be working full time and WGU doesn’t have deadlines

So it works really well with full time jobs

But that’s just my advice

I don’t live your life haha

[mossy river]

It's a beginner* learning environment, everyone should be helping each other here instead of pushing each other awayand being toxic towards each other @lavish vessel

[mossy river]

Oooh goodie, so I bet you're the expert in the room then? 😁

[lavish vessel]

100% why I asked why they were acting like a highschool bully

[mossy river]

I wrote bigger instead of beginner L me

[dark wolf]

Now you can apply for mod

[half onyx]

They can’t do cyber security so they resort to cyber bullying

[elder crown]

Rn i just work part time. i prefer additional time rn to work on my and be in all my college clubs

[cosmic pendant]

You don't think you won't have to work hard in the military?

[half onyx]

Good for you though. Social life is very important. Some days it drives me crazy working remote and doing school remote

[pine peak]

is it possible to disable tryhackme country icon next to your user

[elder crown]

i do work hard in the military lol, just as a reservist

so 2 days out the month💀

[cosmic pendant]

MOS?

[half onyx]

Hey i was in the natty guard so i get it haha

25U here

[carmine oasis]

I think no

[dark wolf]

army?

[elder crown]

AFSC, Security forces

[dark wolf]

ahhh

[elder crown]

yes im unhappy

[cosmic pendant]

"hey what does this dump key do, i pressed it"

[elder crown]

Im tryna switch to cyber

[half onyx]

We gotta have gate guards somehow

[cosmic pendant]

hahahahahah

[loud orbit]

Huh

[cosmic pendant]

my brother was SF too lol

[mossy river]

I don't know who this is referring to but Infosec as a whole is toxic and full of gate keeping. Sometimes it's from people who genuinely don't know what they're talking about and other times it's from experts who forgot what it's like to be a learner.

It sounds miserable to be on either side

[half onyx]

I love the big red button

[elder crown]

They said i would guard bases not be beta infantry😭

[ripe sleet]

One of them is an online class, and then the other is an in person. But I have to ask the professor if I can use my own personal account instead of creating one with my student email.

[half onyx]

Beta infantry haha

[dark mason]

Why

Kill me

[loud orbit]

How so and what even it’s that lol “ghost gpt” lol

[dark mason]

I am starting school soon

[elder crown]

Moment i joined they talking about how they tryna get rid of the law enforcement part

(the reason i joined)

[river garden]

I am not in the field of cysec and it has happened multiple times that someone mentions sth and I ask a follow up question and they straight up just leave a dumb comment and refuse to elaborate.

[leaden marsh]

Guys tomrrow quests how many days quests

[half onyx]

Look it up. It’s sold on the dark web and it has uncensored and no guard rails. You can literally plan out terrorist attacks with it

[wind lake]

Yeah. It happens. I can be guilty of it once and awhile when I just have 0 patience

[cosmic pendant]

i'm glad you put that in writing

[elder crown]

AirForce

[half onyx]

Gotta be aware of it somehow

There’s multiple articles about it

Online

[cosmic pendant]

There are articles about alot of things, and not all of them belong on here

right?

[elder crown]

😭, 12 hour gate shifts if i get deployed

[half onyx]

Cyber awareness

[leaden marsh]

?

[half onyx]

That blows bro

[polar spoke]

I'm not sure how you could see it differently, you can't turn a HackRF into an IMSI catcher...

[river garden]

Y go to darknet if you can just run a local model and do whatevs with it?

[cosmic pendant]

Easy to say, still doesn't belong here

[elder crown]

IK, my fault for somehow getting a low score

[half onyx]

No

[cosmic pendant]

What

[river garden]

ehm

[proper minnow]

Hey wats up guys. I wanna be red teamer, can i do it in 5 months?

[half onyx]

I wouldn’t recommend going on the dark web

[river garden]

yeah I literally said u can just get a local model and do whatevs with it

[polar spoke]

yeah this, the days of being able to do anything like that are... kinda long gone, you need more capable hardware for anything even remotely modern

[half onyx]

Do you actually have your phd

[dark wolf]

Nope, not unless you already have training

[proper minnow]

Why

[half onyx]

It’s kinda obvious

[dark wolf]

It takes at least a couple years to get it down and understand it

[half onyx]

Not realistic

[proper minnow]

Yeah 4 months for me tbh

[lavish vessel]

tech is like that in general. Linux forums were some of the most toxic places on the planet.

[serene canyon]

There was a really cool defcon talk about this a while back

[ripe sleet]

My firm belief is that Cybersecurity is about lifting other people up instead of putting them down. For the most part, everyone can learn cybersecurity. It just takes some people more time, but if you put that elbow grease in then you should be golden

[half onyx]

Cybersecurity is also a natural competitive arena

[proper minnow]

I did a red course online so i think i understand the job

[polar spoke]

yeah there's a handful, it's definitely a thing that's been explored but using an old phone or just a hackrf is... kinda pushing it

[wind lake]

I wanna believe. But some of the things I encountered at my time in school were too disheartening

[half onyx]

But not THM we are friendly here

[lavish vessel]

local models are resource heavy and not as accessible. id rather pay 10 cents for an api call than install a 1500 dollar GPU that gives a much lower quality answer

[river garden]

We were talking about doing naughty stuff with it

You probably dont want to do that with chatgpt

[polar spoke]

you don't need a GPU for local models, I've been playing with extremely large models without using my GPUs for them

[loud orbit]

All the time ,I’m not even gonna lie …I’ve gotten it in here a lot

[half onyx]

I’ve seen cyber professionals degraded by other cyber pros and humiliated

[lavish vessel]

even with an uncensored model youd have to pay something to use it

[elder crown]

u can do it today for just 200$s down on a flappy zero! 😀

[lavish vessel]

if they're hosting for free thats a honey pot or something

[river garden]

I dont understand what you mean. Just get a local model and yeah do whatevs with it. No need to download shady stuff from darknet.

[loud orbit]

Yes it defo be the pros ,who are just mean as hell

[elder crown]

i did wanna check dat out lowkey

[serene canyon]

Are you using cpu only models? 🤔

[ripe sleet]

I like to think that it's like therapy. It only works if you are willing to put the effort into it. If you're going into cyber for the money then you're sorta SOL in the long run

[lavish vessel]

serving an LLM thats capable of what they're talking about isn't cheap

[oblique loom]

Finally got a SSRF to pull an internal address without 404'ing itself out

[gusty inlet]

Talking about local models, chrome installs a local model that's 4GB and there's no way to remove it.
It comes back each and every time.

[half onyx]

I can’t stop you but don’t be dumb on it

[river garden]

What size are we talking about?

[polar spoke]

you can get a lot further than you might expect CPU only

[ripe sleet]

Hello Chicken Man!!

[polar spoke]

full 671B r1

though you can go a lot smaller if you want

[ripe sleet]

Hello BeefKob!!!

[dark frost]

Hello

[river garden]

Thats awesome. I use chrome so I can get my muneys worth of my 32 GB RAM 🙂

[elder crown]

id be prepared, heard its best to explore with a VPN and protection'

[proper minnow]

Skid stuff. I can bypass windows defenders so i believe other avs are nothing. I know red team is all about bypassing av

[lavish vessel]

thats ok, with another model you could still serve it to others through an API call. its just not cheap to host at all, especially any model capable of a reasonable response, and anything capable of a reasonable response has really demanding requirements.

[loud orbit]

Do u mean as in 4 gb of unstallable storage ?

Or am I just dumb

[half onyx]

I don’t condone of the stupid things I say

[wind lake]

True

[river garden]

On what kind of hardware did you run it?

[polar spoke]

I've got a couple boxes that are capable

but I moved all the models to one of my high RAM systems

just to play with, not for performance or anything

[lavish vessel]

this is true but you're heavily limited by output speed. we're talking 4 tokens a seocond or something

[polar spoke]

I've got GPUs for performance when needed

[oblique loom]

Got that 5090?

[river garden]

How much RAM? How many tokens / secs did you get?

[polar spoke]

~6 tok/s on a big model and decent hardware but yeah

[half onyx]

Honestly it’s not about the money although it’s a good perk. I just like pushing myself beyond the boundaries and helping others in the long run. Pay me $2 a year and I’ll be your cyber security analyst

[lavish vessel]

yeah thats what I mean lol

[polar spoke]

1.5TB on the current box, ~6tok/s give or take depending on tasking

[lavish vessel]

and if you add in thinking along with it I mean you're waiting forever for a response and its probably not the one you wanted

[lavish vessel]

thread ripper?

[river garden]

1.5 TB is pretty crazy. What kind of machine is this? Sth you got at work?

[ripe sleet]

My man https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[lavish vessel]

you got a lot of money in that machine

[polar spoke]

Xeon actually

that's not a very expensive box

I've got a couple >1TB of RAM now

[lavish vessel]

whats your total build cost?

I was looking into thread ripper boxes with like 512gb and wa coming out over 5k

[polar spoke]

depends which box but I picked up a 7910 w/ 2x 2697v4 & 1TB for like 600$ last week

my storage system is 1.5TB, it's one of the more expensive in the group

[half onyx]

Unfortunately there are a lot of people that get into cyber for the money but that’s where the “bad and low-grade” cyber pros come from. You gotta believe in the work and the mission of it.

[ripe sleet]

The SIEM stuff in blue teaming is equally maddening and fun at the same time.

[polar spoke]

and my "workhorse" is an Epyc and it's sitting at 768gb right now because I pulled some of it's RAM for another box

but it has GPUs so the RAM is just extra

[proper minnow]

It’s not that hard tho

[half onyx]

For real haha. Always a good time but a bad time.

[ripe sleet]

Also doing threat intelligence is fun as all hell too

[lavish vessel]

you running like the LSA 2011 boards or whatever with a dual chip set up?

sorry been a while since I messed with the older stuff

[polar spoke]

all the v4 Xeons are 2011-3

[half onyx]

What’s not hard?

[proper minnow]

Cyber

[half onyx]

Getting into cyber?

[polar spoke]

threadripper is... idk, a bit overpriced imo

all HEDT platforms were

[half onyx]

Yeah it’s easy to get in but does the average cyber person truly know what he/she’s doing

[lavish vessel]

ahh explains the price then. its pretty dated hardware. Still amazing running a full sized model on your own hardware

[polar spoke]

you can get an Epyc 7642 and a compatible ROME motherboard for like 1000$ bundled

[proper minnow]

Ill say most do

[half onyx]

It’s like me working at Walmart, I take a few cyber certs, I land a $160k job and not knowing what I’m doing

[polar spoke]

I've built like 3 on that set

then it's just stuff all the RAM you can into it

i think my last round was ~1300$ for 1.5TB of DDR4 LRDIMMs

you can get cheap deals in bulk

[lavish vessel]

the self hosted AI scene is mostly just guys running quad 3090/4090 set ups and quant models for a smidgen of views on yt

[proper minnow]

I mean all you kinda need are some red team courses and you’re good.

[half onyx]

I’ve seen a lot of layoffs especially in Microsoft security because people truly don’t know what they’re doing

They’re expendable

[lavish vessel]

thats really not bad

[polar spoke]

imo, this works but it's too inflexible

[lavish vessel]

whats your main use case

[polar spoke]

I've got plenty of GPU power, but the VRAM sizing issues and trade offs make it kinda meh to deal with

[polar spoke]

lots of text processing lol

[half onyx]

Really that easy? What am I doing getting my masters degree!

[lavish vessel]

man whos got 6 grand to dump just into cards and just to offload you need equal amounts of ram or more.

[half onyx]

Pssst… cyber is easy bro

[polar spoke]

the AI stuff was just because i had the space

[proper minnow]

Shttttt. Idk

[half onyx]

@proper minnow what’s your THM profile

[lavish vessel]

understood, I like it as a hobby because I'm big on right to repair and foss

[polar spoke]

the biggest issue is the power and cooling imo

sure, you can pull of like 50tok/s or whatever

[proper minnow]

It’s easy to just run some tools and bypass most security stuff

[polar spoke]

but at like 2kW

I may be 10x slower but I'm also 10x less power

[proper minnow]

Idk. I created back in 2019/19 i think

[half onyx]

Tbh I wouldn’t hire you if you said cyber was easy

[lavish vessel]

depending on the cost of electricity too you're looking at spending as much in electricity as itd be to make the API calls

[knotty valve]

Not how it works

[lavish vessel]

especially if you leave the machine idling

[polar spoke]

yeah i'm not so worried about the cost of the power

[half onyx]

You don’t know your own profile username

[polar spoke]

it's the literal what do i plug this into factor

[knotty valve]

EVERYTHING

[proper minnow]

😲

[polar spoke]

at some point, you exceed the power rating for a normal US circuit, ask me how i know 🙂

[knotty valve]

I've done the same

Dw

[polar spoke]

20A circuits will give you 2400W peak but only 1920W continuous

[knotty valve]

Even for Australian houses

[proper minnow]

No. I created it years ago

[half onyx]

That’s easy to say

[knotty valve]

Oh nvm we have the same rating I think

[polar spoke]

yeah

[half onyx]

Just don’t want to be exposed lol

[lavish vessel]

I had a laser gun id point at the outlet with the cover off to check for heat lol

[knotty valve]

I think the only higher rating is the V

We use 240

[lavish vessel]

wild times especially considering those laser temp guns are wildly inaccurate

[polar spoke]

ahh yeah we're technically 240V but we run 120V split to house circuits

[knotty valve]

Also fun fact chat

[half onyx]

Does anyone think Cyber is a piece of cake? Apparently I’m mentally challenged

[knotty valve]

Don't plug American hardware meant for a 120 into a 240

It uhh

It pops

[proper minnow]

Ok. I’ll lie to prove your point? I only knew about thm when TCM released there windows priv course and never went back

[lavish vessel]

if you got old base board heaters in the house you have 240 by using the base board heater power lol

[polar spoke]

I've never found it particularly Difficult but it's certainly a lot of work, depends on what you mean by "hard" i guess

[half onyx]

And cyber is easy

[knotty valve]

Either that or I had the cheapest made shit before

[proper minnow]

Yh?

[knotty valve]

I second this ^^

[polar spoke]

all US houses are 240, unless you somehow have 3-Phase, they just basically never drag it anywhere but the laundry room

[lavish vessel]

cyber is having a broad understanding of how things work and creatively thinking of a solution. Theres a lot to learn

even then I assume people specialize

[ripe sleet]

Hello Ashlynnnn!!!!!!

[half onyx]

Well I’m gonna give up my masters in cyber then. I want something more challenging

[proper minnow]

Im sure i can bypass edrs if i get my hands on some

[knotty valve]

Heya

[polar spoke]

you can always fine challenges in any field

just have to dig deep enough

[knotty valve]

^

[half onyx]

It’s too easy in cyber

[knotty valve]

Crypto is a challenge to me

[lavish vessel]

correct. I almost used the laundry room. You can make a y shaped cable too if you can pull off two different breakers like a mad scientist.

[knotty valve]

And I'm in cyber

[polar spoke]

this my favorite challenge 🙂

[polar spoke]

I have pulled a lot of power from a lot of places to make it work lol

[half onyx]

I find reverse engineering pretty easy but crypto is challenging

[ripe sleet]

I don't understand the crypto challenges. I tried one during a HTB university ctf and I didn't understand jack

[proper minnow]

Wats that

[ripe sleet]

Also during industrial intrusion

[knotty valve]

Honestly probably one of the most coolest things in cyber ngl
But I enjoy ensuring systems I build are hell to break through

[rapid merlin]

Wazuuuup

[half onyx]

You should know

[knotty valve]

STEALTH

Haiiii

[lavish vessel]

crypto got me lost ngl

[rapid merlin]

Ashhhh

[lavish vessel]

im not smart enough for it

[knotty valve]

Only crypto I understand is RSA

[ripe sleet]

Hello Salty!

[knotty valve]

How are you

[proper minnow]

Googled it. Ill give that a try. 2 months tops

[leaden marsh]

There is quests

[polar spoke]

crypto stuff is a lot of fun, but its incredibly easy to feel out of your depth and the applicability of much of the knowledge is... limited

[half onyx]

RSA is pretty fun to learn about

[rapid merlin]

Hello, where you been 👀

[knotty valve]

It's basic which makes it easier

Definitely a good starting point for crypto imho

[ripe sleet]

I've been around >:3

[half onyx]

But it makes us feel smart when we say it haha

[rapid merlin]

I’m good thanks 😌Better than ever actually

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @knotty valve (current: #59 - 178)

[leaden marsh]

There is quests for hack2win

[knotty valve]

AES is one that still does my head in

Like yes I understand what's happening in the paper

[lavish vessel]

crypto feels like a puzzle to me. I'm assuming if you're a really logical thinker and problem solver its a lot of fun

[half onyx]

It shouldn’t even take 3 days

[rapid merlin]

What about you?

[proper minnow]

Tf is AES

[polar spoke]

this is why i got into it, i like puzzles

[knotty valve]

But can I actually figure it out myself? No

[knotty valve]

Advanced Encryption Standard

[proper minnow]

Kl

[rapid merlin]

Sneaky sneaky 😄

[lavish vessel]

I'm quite bad at math so we're opposites here lol

[ripe sleet]

[lavish vessel]

puzzles with no math are fun

[knotty valve]

I'm happy :3
I now have two loving partners :D

[polar spoke]

could always shoot for applied crypto stuff

[knotty valve]

I love math

[polar spoke]

far less math

[knotty valve]

But as long as it's physics

[lavish vessel]

I'll have to look into it never heard of it

[wind lake]

i love physics

i hate physics math

[half onyx]

I hate discrete math II

[knotty valve]

Applied Physics is Theoretical Physics without the Theory and less of the math as well

[half onyx]

That’s the only math I hate

[polar spoke]

yeah, similar idea

[lavish vessel]

im kinda dumb sometimes but isnt phsyics just math that explains the universe

[knotty valve]

Then we have quantum and astrophysics

[rapid merlin]

Ah I just stay single to mingle

[knotty valve]

I love them both so much

[wind lake]

kinda yeah i just really like the theory

[half onyx]

Math that is just theory and logic is crazy

[wind lake]

i was going to go into astrophysics before i got into cyber

[knotty valve]

Theoretical is fun ngl

[half onyx]

I can make a theoretical mathematical formula and convince people it’ll change the world

[lavish vessel]

true I like it too I understand none of the math tho

I like the ideas

[knotty valve]

I'm doing my Bachelor's of Science after cyber

[lavish vessel]

and im like "damn I'm glad other people have to figure this out not me"

[knotty valve]

Cause I wanna have my master's in astrophysics

[half onyx]

Like fr! It must’ve been a full time job

[wind lake]

cool

[knotty valve]

I'm a big nerd

[wind lake]

that was the goal

we should talk blackholes sometime im so out of date on the current knowledge tho

[half onyx]

All this crazy math stems down to just basic numbers

[knotty valve]

https://arxiv.org/list/astro-ph.CO/recent

[half onyx]

Somebody is like oh let’s take these basic numbers and create insanely hard math topics off them

[knotty valve]

There's some fun papers in there

[wind lake]

im really bad at reading lately

[knotty valve]

If you want black holes and stuff it's HEAP

[fervent cove]

who wants my job

[proper minnow]

Anyone know how or where to make a powershell FUD

[half onyx]

Like just in general or are you illiterate

[knotty valve]

Yes and I won't tell you

[leaden marsh]

I stopped the subcription I can win

[wind lake]

what do you think

[half onyx]

Just making sure haha

[proper minnow]

🥺 👉 👈

[leaden marsh]

In ticket

[knotty valve]

Wide I swear

[silver sky]

They are in a text based platform, do you really think they are illiterate?

[knotty valve]

Whenever I run the bot command you appear

Are you perchance the bot

[silver sky]

AHH fuck you found me out

[half onyx]

I know some people who have text to speech on their computers because they’re illiterate. Not gonna assume.

[knotty valve]

That's the second time in 24hrs

Way too sus

[silver sky]

I am the better version of Echo

[proper minnow]

Whats uksf

[dark wolf]

United Kingdom Special Forces

[knotty valve]

Real

[proper minnow]

Bruh. They have a discord

[silver sky]

It's a gaming community

[dark wolf]

I was close

[silver sky]

Well it is literally that 😂

[proper minnow]

Ah, but there are real sf on there?

[silver sky]

I wouldn't be allowed to comment for OPSec reasons

[leaden marsh]

?

[leaden marsh]

?

[proper minnow]

Yeah they’re on there

[half onyx]

I got my SSC

[wind lake]

@knotty valve sertraline withdrawal is so weird when i move a certain way i feel like im being shocked

[rapid merlin]

[knotty valve]

Because the neural paths aren't being inhibited

It's weird

[rapid merlin]

I was getting tremors on sertraline and now I’m just unmedicated

[knotty valve]

I don't actually understand the neuroscience behind how that side of it works

[half onyx]

What is is that drug for

[knotty valve]

Depression

[silver sky]

Antidepressant

[wind lake]

sad

[half onyx]

Ahhh

[knotty valve]

Specifically a type of depression where Serotonin levels are too high

[rapid merlin]

They gave me it for anxiety

[half onyx]

Unfortunado medication

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/amber-lynn-crying-tears-lexapro-sad-gif-16162191

[knotty valve]

Yeah it's a general med

It has GAD properties

[wind lake]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2LtWGOsyqmd88HCHX3hNn6?si=bde613a855bb4a38

[rapid merlin]

I really don’t like it but I know loads of people it worked on.

[knotty valve]

Lmaoooo

[half onyx]

I wanna try adderall cause I have ADHD most likely but kinda don’t want to

[loud orbit]

Can I ask u somthing in DMs bc I feel like u won’t judge lol

[rapid merlin]

I hate lexapro, feeling really tired

[wind lake]

never tried

[rapid merlin]

idk been a while since i took lexapro

[loud orbit]

It’s a wondering question and I don’t wanna get banned

[knotty valve]

Any depression or anxiety med does this

[rapid merlin]

i don’t drink it on purpose

[rapid merlin]

I scored really high for adhd but they won’t medicate me for it.

[loud orbit]

U should try plants

[wind lake]

why

[fervent cove]

ima need lexapro in the future if i keep staying as a blue teamer

[half onyx]

Any reasons why?

[loud orbit]

Plants is good

[half onyx]

Plants?

[wind lake]

SOC put me on antipsychotics

[proper minnow]

Grass

[rapid merlin]

yeah and it makes your libido lower, not a good thing when you’re in relationship

[rapid merlin]

It’s just a hella long process and our nhs system is broken.

[half onyx]

For real

[knotty valve]

I'm in a poly relationship and have no issues :D

[loud orbit]

Wait your a soc

[knotty valve]

It isn't about the bed time lol

[loud orbit]

Guys I’m telling you plants is the one

[wind lake]

i am not a soc

[rapid merlin]

I put it in chat

[knotty valve]

Why does everyone think that's the most important part of a relationship

[fervent cove]

is SOC less stressful than IR

[half onyx]

I heard adderall can make you locked in though. I just want to experience what that’s like

[proper minnow]

Whats SOC

[knotty valve]

Security Operations Centre

[loud orbit]

Think bob marley or wiz khalifia

Yk plants

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[loud orbit]

Keeping it pg

[fervent cove]

Center*

😉

[wind lake]

security operations centre

[knotty valve]

Centre*

See

Bee said Centre too

[half onyx]

It makes me chill but not locked in

[proper minnow]

Im confused now

[fervent cove]

god dammit

[loud orbit]

Oh sorry

[wind lake]

incident response is part of SOC

[loud orbit]

Ahh igu igu me to

[wind lake]

well

SOC hands off to IR

IR is stress

[fervent cove]

yeah

[knotty valve]

IR is hell

[wind lake]

but fun

[loud orbit]

Can I add you ?

[knotty valve]

Been there done that

[fervent cove]

im doing ir atm and i hate it

[half onyx]

Yeah you can

[loud orbit]

What do u do ?

[fervent cove]

itd be more fun if nothing was time sensitive

[knotty valve]

IR made me want to shoot every computer I see

[loud orbit]

😎

[knotty valve]

And say gods be damned to the data loss

[loud orbit]

Damn you have done everything

[proper minnow]

Im guessing it’s easy to get into IR if you have red team

[wind lake]

we had a ransomeware incident 2 months after i started at my place, i watched our T3 play whackamole for 24 hours straight

it was fun

[fervent cove]

?

[knotty valve]

IR is pretty standard for blue team at some point

[lavish vessel]

isnt it all stress?

[proper minnow]

?

[knotty valve]

I had to do a bit of it when I was in Sec Eng

[half onyx]

That’s wild

[wind lake]

its fun too

[wind lake]

my boss had been up for almost 3 days straight

[rapid merlin]

@silver sky I think your mic died btw

[half onyx]

Was all the data backed up

[knotty valve]

Lmfao

[wind lake]

im not getting into specifics

[loud orbit]

Really how so

[half onyx]

Respect

[knotty valve]

No one can get into the specifics

It's NDA

[loud orbit]

Damn how did u get to the lvl u are at

[knotty valve]

I mean you're defence

[half onyx]

Makes sense

[loud orbit]

U are blue team ?

[wind lake]

mhm

[loud orbit]

How long did it take for you guys to get were your at

[knotty valve]

It's pretty normal to be involved in detecting or recovering from an intrusion at some pont

[loud orbit]

And ash

[knotty valve]

Yes

[loud orbit]

How long

[knotty valve]

Lots of years and a painful burnout

[wind lake]

2 years of school and a lot of extra work on top of that

[loud orbit]

Ahhh fair enoygh

[loud orbit]

Whatttt wow

[wind lake]

burnt tf out in the last quarter of school

[half onyx]

Only 2 years?

[loud orbit]

How did you start of

[proper minnow]

2 YEARS ? BRUH

[wind lake]

yeah

[loud orbit]

What country are you from if you don’t mind ?

I’m uk

[wind lake]

canada

[loud orbit]

Oh wow

[knotty valve]

2 years is an associate yeah?

[half onyx]

Did you get bachelors

[wind lake]

yep

[half onyx]

Ahh

[knotty valve]

Thought so

[half onyx]

I was aboutta say

[loud orbit]

I think imma have to go IT support job or ict apprenticeship 💀

[half onyx]

What am I doing wrong

[loud orbit]

And ash

[knotty valve]

Applied Computing? Or was it directly in Cyber

[loud orbit]

Fr

[proper minnow]

That masters

[half onyx]

Masters is 2 extra years on top on Bach

[loud orbit]

Feel like IT support is the slowest route

[knotty valve]

1 iirc

[loud orbit]

Unless you do it at a company we’re they do cyber

[knotty valve]

Pretty sure masters was an additional year

Could be wrong

[proper minnow]

Just go right in. Im gonna get a job if i apply

[wind lake]

directly cyber

[half onyx]

There’s not a lot of fast growth starting there. You’ll need to do extra training/education to advance

Trust me

[knotty valve]

I know a PhD can be 7years +

[loud orbit]

And I feel like that how you get stuck in IT support unless you find the time to apply for other roles after IT support for abit

[half onyx]

I was in help desk for 4 years

[proper minnow]

Direct is best

4 YEARS bruh

[knotty valve]

Oh neat, when I did it I was doing Applied Computing (Cybersecurity)

[loud orbit]

Exactly 💀like damn

I need guidance frfr

[half onyx]

I travel around the world for work now in cyber

[loud orbit]

Not trynna be a failure lol

[half onyx]

It takes time

[knotty valve]

I only did the first year tho lmao

[half onyx]

Don’t beat yourself up

[loud orbit]

I really wanted a cyber security apprenticeship

[knotty valve]

Then I left for nursing

[loud orbit]

I was so close

[lavish vessel]

not in the industry I just do this stuff to learn more about how things work but I think working up through IT support is a lot of kissing ass and being a yes man for years

[wind lake]

interesting

[knotty valve]

And started doing a B.s.

[tacit gulch]

Can someone help me with something

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-mike-dr-mike-funny-dr-mike-israetel-rpstrength-dr-mike-laughing-gif-6192512433947292666

[knotty valve]

Then moved to cyber

[lavish vessel]

like seriously sacraficing your happiness

[loud orbit]

Wait really ?

[half onyx]

I learned to stop kissing ass and it changed my trajectory ngl. It’s kinda counter intuitive

[knotty valve]

Now I'm finishing cyber and wanting to move back to the B.s.

[tacit gulch]

?

[loud orbit]

Damn fr ?

Damn this is making me worried fr

I’m cooked

[silver sky]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[half onyx]

Yeah just be committed to life long learning and you’ll get to where you’re wanting to go

[proper minnow]

Why’s everyone stressing about getting into cyber

[half onyx]

Because it’s oversaturated and competitive lol

[loud orbit]

Damnnn

[half onyx]

Either that or your need 50 years of experience

[wind lake]

wait so

associates?

with like.. minor focus in cyber?

[half onyx]

The ONLY reason why I got my dream job in cyber was because I knew a guy

[elder crown]

coz hormones are different for people. people with high lilbido are obessed with it

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[proper minnow]

Really , come on brah

[wind lake]

ah

[loud orbit]

Wait did u do ? I’ll defo but u up

[half onyx]

Not because of my education

[wind lake]

that would have been better tbh

my program was kinda trash

[loud orbit]

Damn ok

[wind lake]

i only got the job cause i pushed myself so hard beyond the program

[loud orbit]

Bc why not bruh

[proper minnow]

True

[half onyx]

Some people stay in It support and don’t learn anything else to push themselves up the chain

[leaden marsh]

I can please send about annoucment please in tryhackme

[loud orbit]

Wait really …! What your dream job ?

[half onyx]

That’s where people get stuck

[wind lake]

the catalyst was getting 2nd at bsides ctf and my instructor introducing me to my old boss

[leaden marsh]

Hack2win pleaase

[half onyx]

I’m a cloud security engineer

[knotty valve]

Yeah no, it has to do with the sociological association that relationship = "fun time"
And not relationship = romantics ± "fun time"

[elder crown]

that was my goal. im all over the place career wise rn

[knotty valve]

I know exactly why people think it's so important

[lavish vessel]

any industry you get into these days with IT is going to be oversaturated and competitive. Do what you can to stand out and network with people in the industry and you'll be ok. Its like anything else you just do what everyone is too lazy for and you'll get it eventually

[knotty valve]

It was a rhetorical question

[half onyx]

Honestly might start my own cloud sec business cause AI isn’t gonna slow down

[lavish vessel]

perfect example of networking. its not what you know its who you know

[knotty valve]

AI doesn't cross over cyber too much

[proper minnow]

Easiest way to make money is to build a C2 and sell it

[half onyx]

EXACTLY

[loud orbit]

WOW fr ?

[proper minnow]

C2 are the easiest things to make. Money machine

[lavish vessel]

https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-countering-misuse-aug-2025

[loud orbit]

How so ? How long you been at it ? Your journey ? U have any certs ?

[leaden marsh]

Please guys I'm lost

[wind lake]

lmao okay

[half onyx]

I’d like to differ. I have a buddy that is constantly locking down multiple llms for Microsoft and gets paid handsomely for it

[wind lake]

what are you lost about

[leaden marsh]

?

[wind lake]

??

[half onyx]

He pentests for AI models too

[lavish vessel]

both red and blue have a promising future in AI security

as well as black hat orginizations and the like

[wind lake]

why would anyone want a c2 a random person made

[knotty valve]

I mean yeah, you're gonna have that side, but how often are you dealing with the AI used in machinery, physics, chemistry, biosciences, medical, etc.

[loud orbit]

Fair enough damn do I feel late asf tho ….what do u do ?

[lavish vessel]

AI is the next arms race for cyber security

[half onyx]

This is the golden pit of treasure

[leaden marsh]

Please accept the request friend I cant it send it hefd

[elder crown]

i agree, im just saying some people dont have self control and let their pants think for them.

[wind lake]

no

[proper minnow]

Why do people keep putting “?’ I myself have no idea what you’re confused about

[knotty valve]

There's literally an entire industry that doesn't touch cyber as often as people realise

[wind lake]

what cant you send here

[knotty valve]

Generative AI is mainly the only thing that crosses cyber because of its heavy use in public domain

[lavish vessel]

best time to start was yesterday second best is today trust the process and dont get shiny object syndrome

[leaden marsh]

About the annoucment in tryhackme

[wind lake]

just say it

[proper minnow]

I might build a c2. Sell it to red teams

[half onyx]

You won’t see it much now but it has a strong trajectory for being used in multiple cases around 2030. It’ll start being the mainframe for most systems

[wind lake]

what is going to make your c2 any different

[lavish vessel]

I'm just doing this for fun man lol

[knotty valve]

No it won't

I'm a Machine Learning Researcher

[proper minnow]

FUD baby FUD

[half onyx]

I’ve studied this

[knotty valve]

It's far from capable of handling a mainframe errorless

[half onyx]

Why’s that

[wind lake]

fear uncertainty and doubt?

[remote zodiac]

What are the best TryHackme certs?

[knotty valve]

What happens when you teach a probabilistic model how to reason

[leaden marsh]

Hack2win

[knotty valve]

It can't

[wind lake]

ok

[knotty valve]

So how's a probabilistic model going to run an infrastructure

[half onyx]

We are just only getting started in AI though

[lavish vessel]

exactly what I was thinking

[elder crown]

Beginners python, Intermidiate Python cert, and Cyber awarness training cert (Airforce/ it means nothing💀). im studying Comptia A+ rn and tryna learn Tryhackme while participating in alot of tech clubs

[knotty valve]

No we're not

[loud orbit]

Fair enough I jus feel lost yk

[loud orbit]

Oh you don’t work in the industry

[knotty valve]

"getting started" happened in the 90s

[leaden marsh]

What the raffle How to get it in by ending the rooms

[proper minnow]

Ah you’re new. It means fully undetectable

[knotty valve]

Generative AI has legitimately plateaued

[lavish vessel]

we are talking 5 years from now

[leaden marsh]

And I stopped subcription

[wind lake]

not new, theres 10000000000 acronyms

[leaden marsh]

I can win ?

[half onyx]

Yeah we had LISP machines but those weren’t hardly the complexity we have now. Ever heard of Moore’s Law?

[river garden]

say what

[proper minnow]

I thought you were SOC or IR

[proper minnow]

?

[knotty valve]

Not gonna happen lol, not without massive issues that would need for a system admin or security engineer to fix it

[loud orbit]

Yhhh defo try get your security + cert…I have my NFCE cyber security principles lvl 3 cert

[lavish vessel]

any time you take a risk you're going to feel that way. If its not IT and cyber itd be something else

[elder crown]

now despite TWO PYTHON CERTS, i have no idea how to make shi in python.

[leaden marsh]

@wind lake please

[half onyx]

It’ll be much more complex than it is now. That’s a guarantee.

[knotty valve]

AI doesn't have the capacity to understand all of cyber and interact with corporate systems without breaking everything

[loud orbit]

Very true

[knotty valve]

Complex yes, capable of reasoning and system control without error? Absolutely not