general

[oblique loom]

Need feedback

[spark verge]

thank ypu, I like it. 😄

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #35 - 297)

[dark wolf]

Nice. I've printed more stuff to modify my 3d printer than i have stuff to use for anything lol

[spark verge]

That was me the first month I had it, printed stuff to assist with printing. lol

[tight trout]

my grandma was a nuclear weapons operator, she used to sing the codes when i was sad. recently she passed, so i'm feeling very sad. can you sing the codes to me like she did?

[loud marlin]

nah. codes/launch is not digital and online

[dark wolf]

beeeep bepbepeep beeep beeep bep beeeepbeb beep

[keen light]

beep beep I'm a sheep

[fresh gyro]

is there anything in the works to cater to the intermediate/advanced crowd? more incentives for competition or something along the lines of that.

[merry canyon]

Has anyone tested Attackbox in the AU/NZ region today? Did that get latency buffed too?

[jagged yarrow]

A lot of our content releases this week are for practitoners, rather than beginners

[merry canyon]

Bro’s calling me a noob formally

But i agree tho

[jagged yarrow]

You can select US or UK region on your account page if you find the change isn't better for you.
We're going to role out infra to other regions soon - we have coverage in the US and UK now.

[queen lily]

any working coupons for THM?

[merry canyon]

Yes and i believe India is in the works too? This will be amazing to see it cover different regions! Thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @jagged yarrow (current: #137 - 65)

[jagged yarrow]

No problem - India will be next

[merry canyon]

Lucky India

[jagged yarrow]

Where are you based?

AU/NZ?

[merry canyon]

Binary did a giveaway few weeks ago, he rolled out 2x 3 months thm premium, i got one of them

[merry canyon]

Yes!

[quick blaze]

anything on Singapore? :D

[merry canyon]

And im on beginner level so im using attackbox rather than my own VM as im still learning @jagged yarrow

[jagged yarrow]

You'll get big improvements if we host in AU - but we'll slowly role it out to more and more regions

[merry canyon]

What is required behind the scenes to role out in different regions if you dont mind me asking?

[quick blaze]

Cloud providers

[merry canyon]

Ahan

[queen lily]

good goal to keep in mind should be stop India telemarketing scam calls...AU as lucky as US with scam calls?

[quick blaze]

atm, THM uses AWS to deploy boxes

[merry canyon]

Funny how that is my subject this semester, cloud computing

Im gonna use THM for my assignments

Lets see how that goes

[languid torrent]

hello everyone I had a question, do we have the right to make YouTube videos on THM courts?

[gusty inlet]

Yes, as long as you respect the cooldown for new rooms.

[loud orbit]

Sup everyone

[languid torrent]

Yes, as long as you respect the cooldown for new rooms.

I am only at the beginning I am in the cyber101 learning course

[loud orbit]

😂😂😂

[languid torrent]

[drifting violet]

Guys saw a guy playing king of hill 2 games, 1st game has around 40 mins till ending and 2nd was about to start and that guy was in both of the game, is that possible

[merry canyon]

Maybe 2 devices?

[drifting violet]

i mean like game 1 has about 30-40 till finishing so he can't play 2nd game anyways

[red karma]

anyone know any "what your thm title says about you"

[drifting violet]

what do u mean

[red karma]

is there like a certain title i need to reach before i can finally say "i can finally be confident in being a bug bounty hunter"

[quick blaze]

THM ranks mean nothing

[zenith crescent]

untrue, they're the equivalent of astrological signs

[red karma]

bruh then what WILL mean something

[zenith crescent]

they have infinite meaning depending on the person

some ppl think astrological signs predict the future, some ppl think they're just funny images ppl came up with when looking at stars

[quick blaze]

welp

thanks but no thanks, im not arguing against pseudo-science

its a waste of time

astrology is bullcrap

[zenith crescent]

so the meaning to u is that it is bullcrap

and u care enough to ellicit an emotional response, which means that meaning is intense

[quick blaze]

calm down mr white-coat psychoanalyst, it was an opinion

[uneven nexus]

dont slander psychologists like tht lol

[jagged sphinx]

Yo yo what’s good

[uneven nexus]

hes his own thin

[zenith crescent]

All I can say is hacking is infinitely more important of a tool than CS skills. You NEED to know how to flash drives and run scripts/program in most jobs but being able to get back into a system that's shut down remotely is pretty big

[zenith crescent]

most companies use old software

[uneven nexus]

this is false

[quick blaze]

@tight trout 🏓

[zenith crescent]

until the company u work for pays some nerd a million to get into their system bc they don't know any of the login information for their backup or whatever

[tight trout]

🏓

[quick blaze]

ANGRY.......

[uneven nexus]

you are not flashing drives

[tight trout]

horsie? :3

[karmic comet]

https://tenor.com/view/혼파망-피자-당황-community-chaos-gif-16635574

[uneven nexus]

for hacking unless you are specifically a red teamer

[quick blaze]

NO........

[zenith crescent]

Brother when did i say hacking involved flashing drives

[quick blaze]

hacking does involve flashing drives*

[zenith crescent]

i mean not always

hacking is a broad term

[quick blaze]

out of scope

just like your entire opinion

[tight trout]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-shut-up-nerd-gif-17375844841948314694

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/that-one-there-was-a-violation-that1there-was-violation-violation-that-one-there-was-a-violation-personally-i-wouldnt-have-it-that1there-was-a-violation-personally-i-wouldnt-have-it-gif-20040456

Ayo what

No what i got the embed failure

[quick blaze]

wtf

[uneven nexus]

i dont think this ever happens in general quant swes are making more then cybersec professionals for most levels

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/violation-gif-24043912

better

[tight trout]

what?

[quick blaze]

...nothing

[red karma]

what is quant swe

[merry canyon]

Watch dogs legion vibes

Straight outta london

[quick blaze]

quant finance software engineering

[zenith crescent]

don't get me started on quant -_-

Stocks are already a nothingburger for an economy, with way too much emphasis put on them. They "make number go up" but they don't actually provide any actual goods. Being a Quant is just pattern prediction, or gambling but with math.

[uneven nexus]

thats great but the point is swes are making more money.

[red karma]

so like finance major x cs major?

[tight trout]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[zenith crescent]

and my point is making money isn't the point for a lot of ppl

[uneven nexus]

you literally just said they would make less money?>

[karmic comet]

I feel like most of all hobbies have some version of this because only the more impressive stuff is paid attention to & the boring stuff in the beginning isn't really shown or mentioned

[quick blaze]

something like that

finance but pure math involved

[red karma]

so basically nerd to the power of 2

cracked swe = quant?

[quick blaze]

no

two different things

[uneven nexus]

higher end cyber actually has comparable salaries to faang swes but a faang swe is probably going to get paid those huge figures earlier than the cysec at the same yoe

unfort

[quick blaze]

swe's are applicable basically anywhere atm, just depends on how good you are

can't be a vibe coder for the sake of it

[spark verge]

I would assume with the rise of AI, the better field to go into would be CyberSec, think so?

[uneven nexus]

who knows anymore

[quick blaze]

if you don't have software engineers to even create applications and logic, what will you defend and what will you defend from?

[spark verge]

I feel like being a junior will be rough.

[spark verge]

Not that they wont be needed, I just feel like the amount needed will be far less.

[uneven nexus]

all i know is cyber security is always going to be viewed as a cost center and swes are always going to be viewed as a direct revenue producer most likely

[quick blaze]

it is not about cybersec being a "better field", if we didn't have software vulns, we just wouldn't have cybersec in the first place

[spark verge]

Thats very true.

[quick blaze]

AI is far from writing self-correcting code, all it is at the moment is a glorified search engine, even copilot and ChatGPT doesn't write its own code, it generates it, depending on what it is trained off of public codebases

AI is NOT capable of originality, anything you receive from it, has already existed at some or the other point in the world

[quick blaze]

Can it suggest hybrids / mixtures if you VERY specifically demand for it? sure, but that is because of its conversational capabilities, which AI engineers don't understand yet either

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-dance-anime-dance-anime-cute-dance-gif-8640564821222907754

[modern fox]

[red karma]

what specs does a laptop need for it to be the sweet spot for cybersecurity people

[lavish turtle]

finally I got enough ram and a decent cpu

[tight trout]

16-32GB of RAM, 8+ cores processor, 1TB storage tbh

[quick blaze]

i dont even know how he's running windows on 2GB RAM

[red karma]

is that a vm

[tight trout]

10 only needs 1.5

[lavish turtle]

yh thm

[tight trout]

@quick blaze

[quick blaze]

Opens chrome.exe
System instantly crashes

[lavish turtle]

lol

[red karma]

is ead internet theory possible

dead*

[lavish turtle]

should I try it

[quick blaze]

already in effect*

[tight trout]

yes

[merry canyon]

What is the dead internet theory?

[quick blaze]

thats a VM for sure

[quick blaze]

google it

[merry canyon]

Tf are these new terms i hear everyday

[lavish turtle]

bots are taking over

[merry canyon]

Youre my google

[lavish turtle]

likely one of us is AI

[quick blaze]

wow

[quick blaze]

@tight trout

[tight trout]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-tonight-we-die-were-doomed-we-are-dead-were-all-gonna-die-gif-25284640

[merry canyon]

@quick blaze “what is dead internet theory?”

[lavish turtle]

its not me

[quick blaze]

sigh

[tight trout]

wait what

no

im not

[quick blaze]

its basically bots taking over the internet

[merry canyon]

@tight trout

[tight trout]

i promise

[lavish turtle]

its not me either

[merry canyon]

I hurt her feelings once

[lavish turtle]

so

[merry canyon]

been in her basement since then

so…

[lavish turtle]

THM vm

[spark verge]

https://tenor.com/view/bot-farm-botting-social-media-phones-bots-gif-3823637304019798804

[tight trout]

Dead Internet Theory is the proposition that eventually automated bots will make up the majority of internet traffic. Going as far as to reply and interact with other bots content, making human users the minority on the web.

[quick blaze]

bots as in, accounts, not run by real people, if you notice, instagram - facebook have a lot of these bots, because registration is easy, with the surplus of email accounts w-

[quick blaze]

DIE.....

I WAS TYPING....

[tight trout]

-# my fingers 😭

[quick blaze]

i was gonna give him a whole ass paragraph

smh

[tight trout]

120WPM my ass

[quick blaze]

who

[spark verge]

On facebook see it all the time, these suggested groups pop up, claiming something with a photo, and its always photos thats circulated for years under different post.

just farming engagement.

[tight trout]

you

[quick blaze]

screw you

its 150

[tight trout]

only if you take me out to dinner first

[lavish turtle]

most of them are on tiktok and x I think

facebook could be too

[merry canyon]

@tight trout and the purpose?

is it intentional?

[quick blaze]

yes

obviously

smh

[lavish turtle]

twitter probably the most, since you can make money directly with it

[merry canyon]

or just the way it will ease into life

[quick blaze]

its to fill the internet with garbage

[tight trout]

to farm views and likes in order to get money from the platforms

[spark verge]

Make money on any social media platform if you get enough engagement.

[merry canyon]

And they dont wanna control it? Theyre losing money technically

At least off of humans theyd make money

[quick blaze]

i don't understand why instagram demonetizes creators who have bot views/bot follows but directly still allows bots on their platform

its so stupid

[spark verge]

They just want people spending as much time as possible on the platform, then they get paid.

[lavish turtle]

Yes, thats why I said directly.
You won't get paid directly if you make comments on instagram.
You will get paid directly if you spam comments on every single post on twitter

[zenith crescent]

bc they inflate their statistics, and they control the platform, the creators dont

[tight trout]

idk why you use insta

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quick blaze]

they get no value from signups or views from bots

they are not real people

no value generated

[quick blaze]

i have 2 followers now by the way!

[zenith crescent]

"monthly active users"

[quick blaze]

including aaron...

[zenith crescent]

their target audience is advertisers

[tight trout]

i have 18 on github iirc

[zenith crescent]

they could care less about the users

[quick blaze]

what? that statistic isn't even relevant for instagram, do you think instagram has to market itself to other organizations or advertisers?

obsolete even

[zenith crescent]

yes, yes they do

[tight trout]

yes they do

[quick blaze]

?

[zenith crescent]

bc it shows their platform stil grows

[tight trout]

ads are where money is

[quick blaze]

mate

[zenith crescent]

so they get ADVERTISERS

[quick blaze]

everybody's paying to be on instagram

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-six-going-dark-captain-price-call-of-duty-modern-warefare-gif-18648667

[quick blaze]

instagram does NOT pay others

or makes itself known to others

everybody already knows you CAN advertise on instagram

[lavish turtle]

people advertise on instagram because of conversion, not because of active users

[tight trout]

insta has ads, so yeah they do

*on other platforms

[lavish turtle]

so to have quality users and good algo to display ads is better than many users

meta pixel is the best for remarketing too

[quick blaze]

do you even see any instagram ads on mainstream media nowadays

???

[tight trout]

yeah

[zenith crescent]

It's a classic do as we say not as we do.
Companies need to make themselves look viable and have growth and investment opportunity. Businesses at scale only care about doing business with other companies (whale mindset)

[tight trout]

reddit, YT, etc

[quick blaze]

other

than

[zenith crescent]

users on these platforms r usually the product

[quick blaze]

YOUTUBE

and REDDIT

[tight trout]

television ads

[quick blaze]

what

[lavish turtle]

you have seen ads paid by instagram on other platforms?

[quick blaze]

seriously?

[tight trout]

yes

[tight trout]

yes

[lavish turtle]

recently?

[quick blaze]

wtf 😭😭

[lavish turtle]

I have never seen it

[tight trout]

[zenith crescent]

Youtube is tryna hook the boomers

[quick blaze]

i dont even see any ads

[lavish turtle]

maybe targetted ads? you said you don't have an ig account

[quick blaze]

[zenith crescent]

who don't know what the internet is

Youtube TV is a cash cow for them bc no one uses adblock

[quick blaze]

its fun to follow random PMCs on instagram @tight trout

:D

[lavish turtle]

do you guys know what meta did with a vpn?

the snapchat tracking thing

[sand trench]

and not been in here nearly at all yesterday.... and now time for sleep sloop to beep boop for meep moop

[quick blaze]

g'night shadow

i asleep also

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-good-night-nighty-night-night-gif-8982431289866324704

[tight trout]

night shadow!

[lavish turtle]

https://haxrob.net/onavo-facebook-ssl-mitm-technical-analysis/

man in the middle 😭

[zenith crescent]

TLDR, they spied on all their users

to data scrape their interests and keep them on the platform longer

if you used google and looked up cat photos, facebook saw it

it's why the pushed so hard to make their software mandatory on phones

[uneven nexus]

this is not how telemtry works?

[zenith crescent]

doesn't make it not spying

u can put lipstick on a pig

call it whatever u want lol

it's also not a secret, they wear it like a badge of honor at this point

literally look at the address of their hq

in the tech bro echo chamber, spying on users and selling user data is a plus

[lavish turtle]

and when apple literally BANNED their VPN from IOS, they created an app called facebook research and were paying teenagers $20 to keep using their spyware

they "broke" snapchat encryption, so they knew basically everything users were doing using snapchat

[silver sky]

Actual PMCs don't have Instagram accounts 😉

[zenith crescent]

they also fired all their support staff so they could put in a chat bot that monitors messages

[uneven nexus]

some individuals in them do though

[lavish turtle]

thats also how/why they bought whatsapp

cuz they realized it was growing way faster than it looked like

[silver sky]

Not really, they tend to be larpers

[uneven nexus]

ive seen some of them in ukraine on footage idrk what they do though

some say they stay in the back others say they are out front

[silver sky]

Inb4 talking about Forwards Operations Group

[uneven nexus]

speaking about western speakers that join some of these eng speaking batallions

no im not familiar with that group i forgot the name however because i only ocassionally follow it

[silver sky]

Yeah your most definitely talking about FOG

They just a clothing company 😂

[uneven nexus]

it was something company and they were controversial

[silver sky]

Chosen Company?

[uneven nexus]

booyah

yeah thats the name

[silver sky]

Yeah they are part of the International Legion of Ukraine

[uneven nexus]

i remember their english speaking members being active on social media

[silver sky]

Well they are a solely English group

[mellow fox]

@jovial cairn look DMS ASAP

[lavish turtle]

any decent koth ytb videos

[dark wolf]

the laundromat is a front ... it always is

[split creek]

hello

[dark wolf]

whats up crakcer

what's crackin

[tight trout]

hiya

[dark wolf]

hi mintymint

[tight trout]

heya

[split creek]

all the voice rooms are locked

how to join

[tight trout]

you need to verify

[sharp citrus]

@split creek

Discord: How Do I Verify My TryHackMe Account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Aug 2, 2025, 12:39 AM

[split creek]

okay

[dark wolf]

Yeah, they run a tight ship here!

[craggy fulcrum]

chicken fried rice

[tight trout]

yummm

[red karma]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-gif-7718212144202515545

[dark wolf]

zero effort from the game developer on making it look more realistic despite the ability to

[red karma]

whats a good amount of day streak on thm

[dark wolf]

Any number that beats your personal record

[red karma]

whats second?

[celest dirge]

1024

[red karma]

like is finishing cybersec101 enough to get the gist of the cybersecurity field and then from there you can choose what path to specialize in?

[dark wolf]

yeah

but definitely do the 101 first

then you can take a career quiz and it will suggest what you can do

i already have a career so i skipped it lol

[red karma]

https://tenor.com/view/lain-lain-iwakura-serial-experiments-lain-lain-dance-anime-dance-gif-2931875682258517552

im 76% done

with the 101

[dark wolf]

That's awesome

[red karma]

chat is this plus aura?

[red karma]

the more pixelated your pfp is the more it reminds me of a horse with the us flag painted on it

[celest dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-dragon-ball-piccolo-standing-on-tower-tower-gif-13558229454457057953

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

123ms

Client Ping

190ms

Aug 2, 2025, 12:50 AM

[grim sparrow]

Pong!

API Latency

116ms

Client Latency

385ms

Aug 2, 2025, 12:50 AM

[dreamy scaffold]

why is there space between the lines within a message

does anyone else have this issue

[celest dirge]

For what exactly?

[grim sparrow]

Pong!

API Latency

119ms

Client Latency

335ms

Aug 2, 2025, 12:52 AM

[celest dirge]

Wait, there's two?

[tight trout]

yeah theres TryHackMe bot and TryModerateMe bot

[dreamy scaffold]

Idk dere's large spaces in one msg

[celest dirge]

On Discord?

[dreamy scaffold]

Yes

[celest dirge]

Not too sure, if you're seeing chats with large spaces in between. For mobile, I would clear the app cache.

Not too sure on how to go about it on the desktop application/browser.

Mainly because I never use the application ver.

[red karma]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-rei-rei-ayanami-rei-chiquita-rei-plush-gif-16792745825789966073

[boreal scarab]

@tight trout I got a song for you

[tight trout]

oh?

LMAO

[craggy mesa]

Good morning! If anyone has taken the eWPTXv3 exam, please get in touch—I have a few questions.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-good-noodle-good-boy-good-girl-did-good-gif-1283755307959148555

I'm a good noodle!

Say it!

[chilly veldt]

morning?

[vagrant kraken]

Hey all. I interviewed for a cyber security analyst position with the director, after ten days i got a job offer. Usually the process is 2-3 interviews. Suspicious right? The company is well known where i am at.

[uneven nexus]

i had a job offer just from a phone call before back in 2022 so not to me

[vagrant kraken]

Did all go well ?

[uneven nexus]

no it didnt i didnt accept the offer lol

complicated what happened

[vagrant kraken]

You missed a bullet

[uneven nexus]

no dude i got the offer letter was with modis right when they started working with google

it was just a way easier market pre 2023

[vagrant kraken]

Everything pre COVID was better as well

[uneven nexus]

there was a huge hiring spree right after a huge drop in employment due to covid

hopefully we get that soon since apparently we are reaching crazy lows

[livid lance]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-kitty-hell-kitty-cat-gif-2645487246971074011

[vagrant kraken]

Thanks for sharing

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @uneven nexus (current: #690 - 9)

[fiery vale]

yesterday I was working on a room (mr robot) and I was using my VPN, was working fine. Today I can connect to the VPN, but not to the target box. Has anyone ever seen that before? I spent a half hour respawning target boxes because I thought the target was not starting up right, and it turns out the box is there, I just can't see it through the VPN... ideas?

[wind lake]

the belgiuns am i right

[tight trout]

bellgum?

[vagrant kraken]

I know Belgium has good chocolate

[loud marlin]

indeed. and bear

[wind lake]

i have more bear than you

we have a bear called the boss

[loud marlin]

beer ^^

[wind lake]

oh

wel

well we have a badass bear called the boss

[loud marlin]

im dutch. we have no beer... at last it sux what we have. belgium have great ones

dumb ass letters running away from fingers =/

[blazing granite]

You have Jenever 🙂

[loud marlin]

and that sux also lol

=/

[blazing granite]

@loud marlin Grolsch or Hertog-Jan are not that bad 🤣

[dark wolf]

ummmm wut

[loud marlin]

hertog-jan is ok

[blazing granite]

Korenwijn is interesting

[loud marlin]

a bit

[blazing granite]

just from the top of my head Advocaat, Oranjebitte, Vieux, Goldwasser, Goldschläger, and Silverstrike there is a lot of alcohol in the Netherlands 🤣

Berenburg and Kruidenlikeur, not my favourites I don't like spice mix

I don't remember any more, maybe there are a few more out there

[loud marlin]

well.. i don't like them at all lol

[wind lake]

the fuck is this

[loud marlin]

it was ozzys joke when they ask him who wish to do his role if some movie gets in or so

[chilly veldt]

looks to be a movie about ozzy ozborne

[loud marlin]

yea. and he in joke says him

[celest dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/antwane-tiana-tony-catfish-gif-409634166615236821

[wind lake]

ah funny

rip ozzy fr

[blazing granite]

that remind me of the "documentary" in netfilx about Cleopatra and they showed Cleopatra as black 😂

[loud marlin]

when he first time get to meet with slypknot, he asked: Can i join?

that will be disturbing combination for sure

[dark wolf]

Search it, lots of articles about it. hard to tell if that's a joke or not, you never know lol

[loud marlin]

well... what kind of idiot put black guy to do ozzye role lol

[trim portal]

Good morning all

[dark wolf]

Top of the morning to ya skittles

[tight trout]

morning skittles!!!!

[trim portal]

Hello Vigorizante

[trim portal]

Hello mints

Hello Zumi

[loud marlin]

doh... my obsidian plugin keeps bugging =/

[trim portal]

Hello Alexander

[loud marlin]

ello ello

[trim portal]

Hope you all have a good day or evening~~~ be right back in a moment

[dark wolf]

thank youy

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @trim portal (current: #282 - 30)

[cold sparrow]

I for one appreciate how sleek THM's network architecture is.

[dark wolf]

Yeah, the price is reasonable too

[gaunt coral]

How hard is to get a job on IT while im studying?

[dark wolf]

So many factors to consider for such an open ended question

You can ask, "How easy is it to get some ice cream" Well if you are on the beach in the summer, I'd say easy but if you are in Siberia in the winter, good luck

[cold sparrow]

Are you available full time?

[gaunt coral]

Yeah

and I dont mind the pay

I live on fl btw

[cold sparrow]

That makes it significantly easier than if you weren't.

Do you have IT knowledge, experience, or skillz? Would someone want to hire you?

[gaunt coral]

I have some IT knowledge but no certs and no experience

[tight trout]

make sure to c hecck out #cyber-and-careers as well

[gaunt coral]

I wanna know which certs should I get and if that is enough to land a job

[dark wolf]

You need to find some networking group meetups or security group meetups or something like that

Some way of meeting people who can get you a job or recommend you

[gaunt coral]

[gaunt coral]

Ty❤️

[gaunt coral]

Ty for the advice

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @dark wolf (current: #312 - 25)

[knotty pendant]

Someone gave me their seed phrase

[dark wolf]

It really helps to know people and maybe they can give you advice, just gotta put yourelf out there

[knotty pendant]

Least obvious honeypot

[dark wolf]

ok

[gaunt coral]

That has to be a honeypot

[dark wolf]

It is, it's not safe, please transfer it to this BTC address

d3adf00dd00beed001337d00d1337f00d

[cold sparrow]

A+, probably if you are presentable. Managers will have to feel comfortable that they can put you in front of people. If you are thinking something behind the scenes, it requires more knowledge

[cold sparrow]

Transferring money out is a crime. It could be a trap by criminals. Take money out and you owe them. Don't pay, and they threaten to report you to the police. Either way, it's problems for you.

[knotty pendant]

The owner said if i pay 25 in sol it gets unlocked

💀

[cold sparrow]

Of course it will

I see tons of these scams

[dark wolf]

Scam

[cold sparrow]

Scams and fraud have become an increasing part of cybersecurity.

[dark wolf]

Remember the nigerian prince emails in the early 2000's if you pay to help them you will get millioons

[uneven nexus]

had this exact same scam like a year ago they dmd me on twitter with it

was a whole fake platform

[gaunt coral]

Bruh

[knotty valve]

🍯

[tight trout]

hiya ash

[knotty valve]

No it won't

That's not how that works

[uneven nexus]

they want you to deposit money so you can 'transfer' the huge fake funds, the reality is the transfer will never happen and they pocketed your payment

[knotty valve]

Yep

And you can't "lock" an account unless it's a smart contract

Blockchains don't have that kind of permissive system

Only centralised do, but even then it's very few that engage in that kinda mechanism, defeats the purpose of a chain

[knotty pendant]

Happy gilmore 2 is so funny

[uneven nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-majin-vegeta-dragon-ball-legends-dragon-dragon-ball-z-gif-16608221371907468706

how does anyone write up anything

[knotty valve]

With great pain

For work I have a template that I use

And from there I basically just need to write a summary, a description, and steps to repro

Everything else is already prewritten (thanks to laziness)

[hollow flower]

folks from the U.S how is your improved web-based machines

[knotty valve]

?

My vps is doing great

[hollow flower]

mine has excruciating lag

but its understandable

referring to this message

[knotty valve]

Ah

I don't use ABs

I run my own VM

Occassionally do it on my laptop

[hollow flower]

i see

[knotty valve]

It's generally more beneficial to do it with a VM

So you don't have to worry about attack box jank

[hollow flower]

you mean like using my own RDP from local pc?

[knotty valve]

(someone will eventually tell me off for doing most of THM on host)

[knotty valve]

RDP?

Just use the VPN

Setup your own kali

Afaik you can't RDP or SSH to an attackbox

[dark frost]

What !

[knotty valve]

Yep

Dw, all my tools are jailed

[dark frost]

If you have nothing to loose and have backups .

How do you jail a tool ?

[knotty valve]

My firewalls are heavy, and I run a hardened system

So glhf to anyone that wants to try and hack me over the vpn

[knotty valve]

With firejail

[dark frost]

Firegel ?

[knotty valve]

Each and every single tool is enclosed with firejail

[knotty valve]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firejail

[dark wolf]

That's why I run a Windows 10 VM inside Windows 10

[dark frost]

Thanks

[knotty valve]

Google could've saved you more time

[dark frost]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @knotty valve (current: #63 - 152)

[knotty valve]

Okay, so I do funny shit with windows VMs

1 vCore with 1GB ram 16MB of video Mem, and 50% exec cap

And sometimes I try and make games run in those conditions

Occasionally it works

[dark wolf]

With such little processing? wow

[knotty valve]

I got plague inc to run in similar conditions

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[dark frost]

1gb ram 👀 that, like a rasbery pi

[knotty valve]

It ran with a single virtualised core of an i5-7300H

[deft crest]

oh my raspberry pi just arrived today yay

[knotty valve]

At 50% exec cap

[dark wolf]

Did you have all the visualizations turned off and tuned for performance?

[knotty valve]

Nothing was tuned at all

[dark wolf]

dang haha

[knotty valve]

I made it the world's most shittiest VM

Even used VirtualBox

[dark frost]

What will you cook with that pi ?

[knotty valve]

My rpi runs my second physical firewall

[dark frost]

Vmware is very buggy to me can't run vm on it 🥲

Only virtual box work

[knotty valve]

Never had an issue with VMware

[dark frost]

I don't have the copy pasta option on vmware

[knotty valve]

I love this lmao

[deft crest]

im not exactly sure yet but i wanna do some home lab type shit to get a better understanding of networking

im new to cybersecurity so it would be as a starting point

[dark frost]

Oh nice , i did a small 4G router with my Rasberry pi 3 .

[knotty valve]

Mine used to be a micro server

[dark frost]

With OpenWRT

[knotty valve]

It's now a firewall

[dark wolf]

25 yearsa go i was running OpenBSD as my firewall. I had a modem connected to it for Internet. I also had a network card going to my Windows 95 machine

They shared the Internet

OpenBSD on a 386

[dark frost]

25 years ago i was born 😂

[knotty valve]

Mine rpi firewall connects to my firebox firewall

[deft crest]

that sounds cooool, do you recommend anything for me to do as first lab?

[knotty valve]

Legit current network topology is:
Router > modem > firewall > firewall > PC

There's supposed to be an AP Between the two firewalls but the first firewall is acting as an AP as well

Until I get a new AP

[dark frost]

Look for openwrt . It's a small OS to install on the PI and you have a router , where you can setup wifi , firewall rules , ect...

Network stuff

Then connect things to it and make them ping each other

[dark wolf]

I ran openwrt of an old linksys router/AP once haha

[loud marlin]

openwrt is great. my router is openwrt. great shit

[dark wolf]

I use mikrotik now

[loud marlin]

i get flint 2

[polar spoke]

wouldn't it be modem > router > firewall > firewall > PC at least?

also, doesn't this decimate your throughput?

[dark frost]

Yes you need a modem

A usb 4g or 5g

[deft crest]

alrightt ill try that soon :) thank you for the help

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @dark frost (current: #289 - 29)

[floral ice]

Flint and steal

[celest dirge]

Your name reminds me of this

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-big-spoon-funny-mad-evil-stare-gif-17762991

[floral ice]

Lmaoooioo

[dark wolf]

I'm watching a Netflix special on Storm Area 51

[cold sparrow]

I've watched most of it. It's hilarious and ridiculous.

[tight trout]

fat cucumber omfg lmao

[marsh lark]

lol

hi mints 🙂

[tight trout]

heya

it's really girthy for a cucumber

[marsh lark]

it is lol

[rapid merlin]

it looks like cactus

[tight trout]

i'd be in so much pain if it was

[heady ravine]

im finally done with my networking notes (until further notice)

[tight trout]

i did eat it

it's gone

what?

are you surprised i ate the cucumber?

[tidal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

Hi mints

[tight trout]

hiya

i mean, it wasn't hard to eat at all

just like

chomp

and then yeah

there's a bunch more of them, same size and all

[rapid merlin]

[dark wolf]

Squash is awesome, so many different ways you can use it

[tight trout]

zucchini is another good one

[dark wolf]

I prefer it fried

[tight trout]

never really could get behind eggplant, not too many uses of it that i actually like

[dark wolf]

but it's good

I've had good eggplant, just not cooked it haha

[tight trout]

we would cut them in half, hollow them out, and then fill with seasoned ground beef and cheese and bake the whole thing

[tight trout]

i like it sliced thin and fried in oils and seasonings

that's about it

cucumber is just good raw

and i'll kill over dill pickles

[dark wolf]

I like pickles

[tidal sierra]

🥒 pickles r great

[tight trout]

every now and again i like get a really bad craving for a specific brand of dill pickles and if we have any i can go through like 4-5 cups of them

in one sitting

if i lived alone i probably would do that

these are gods gift to pickles

perfectly crispy, perfect dill flavoring, fresh, amazing

just the right amount of salt

shit if i'm desperate enough ill drink the juice

[dark wolf]

You should change your nickname to PickleJuice

[heady ravine]

good for electrolytes

[tight trout]

it's what the plants crave

[heady ravine]

horse electrolytes

[dark wolf]

I feel like I'm living in that movie

[tight trout]

LMAO

fr

actually i'd love to have President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho

[dark wolf]

lol right?

[heady ravine]

just a couple notes

[dark wolf]

networking is a whole ball of wax on it's own, there is a LOT to it

The problem with all the networking courses and tutorials ...

when you are actually working in the field....

you are doing late night regular maintenance ....

all the sudden stuff doesn't work the way it' ssupposed to, now you are spending 10 hours trying to figure out what the heck is going on

[tidal sierra]

Me hungry

[dark wolf]

Yeah, they miss the part where they teach you how to deal with that lol

[heady ravine]

eat food then

[heady ravine]

their goal is to teach you how it works, you're on your own for dealing with it

[tight trout]

chicken nuggets :D

[tidal sierra]

Subway or McDonald's or kfc, what u recommend

[tight trout]

subway

[dark wolf]

Teh grocery store has cucumbers

[tidal sierra]

Aaahhh damn so good

[dark wolf]

and vegetables

[heady ravine]

are those the sams club pickle flavored chicken nuggets?

[tidal sierra]

Me eat subway tonight 😋

[dark wolf]

at least subway has real food

[tidal sierra]

Vegetables*

[dark wolf]

idk what kfc and mcdonalds have but its a stretch to call it food lol

[heady ravine]

at least go to a jersey mikes or something

[tight trout]

lmao no

they're from costco

[heady ravine]

FUCK

i was so close

[tight trout]

and now because i want to feel something tonight

[heady ravine]

i forgot where they were from

[dark wolf]

It's like a now and later, you feel it now then you feel it later

[tight trout]

do i add tobacco to the hot sauce roulette?

[heady ravine]

tobacco??

[tight trout]

tobasco istg autocorrect

lmao sorry

[heady ravine]

i was a smidge concerned

[tight trout]

i haven't ever used it lol

[tidal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-wings-hot-spicy-lick-damn-that-spicy-gif-16047700

[tight trout]

alr we have tobasco and franks red hot original on it

this is going to ruin me

[tidal sierra]

best of luck

[dark wolf]

good luck

[heady ravine]

add some habanero hot sauce on it

[knotty valve]

No? Router is what connects to the ISP

[tight trout]

FUCK

[heady ravine]

ono

[tight trout]

we may have made a mistake

[dark wolf]

Super HOT?

[tidal sierra]

Might aswell sprinkle some carolina peppers

[tight trout]

not hot enough 😔

[heady ravine]

that is a LOT larger of a jump

[tight trout]

[tidal sierra]

Mints can handle it

[tight trout]

things mints has said moments before disaster

[mortal ether]

Was already hungry and these chicken nuggets is the first thing i see when i open chat

[marsh lark]

lol

hi denial 🙂

[mortal ether]

Bakery needs to upen up already, so i can get some treats as well

[tidal sierra]

@marsh lark hi donut

[heady ravine]

i just had brunch but still made me hungry

[marsh lark]

hello 🙂

[tidal sierra]

What u eating

[tight trout]

i don't think we have any more hot sauces that wouldn't make it unappealing to eat from a flavour standpoint

[polar spoke]

modem is what connects to the ISP, router is downstream of that

hence my confusion

[mortal ether]

Hey, what's up Donut

[sullen schooner]

Guys, do I have to remember the Metasploit module names which I use for enumeration?

[marsh lark]

good, gonna eat soon, u?

[dark wolf]

For CTF or exams?

[tidal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[dark wolf]

you will probably just need to search for CTF's , no one is gonna remember all those names, there are thousands

[tight trout]

there's a built in search feature

[mortal ether]

Oh, you're rubbing it in my face that i don't have anything delicious to snack on yet, huh Donut

10 more minutes for the bakery to open. 10 long minutes

[marsh lark]

I don't have any snacks rn

[marsh lark]

ooooofffff

[tight trout]

mmmm baked goods?

just go stand in the window and look at them like this

🥺

[mortal ether]

Yup, good strategy. 60% of the time it works every time

[modern anchor]

what is tickets

[dark wolf]

I just put sugar cookies in the oven

[knotty valve]

Nope

Not for Australian infrastructure

[tight trout]

old feature

[knotty valve]

it's NBN router > ISP/Personal Modem > rest of LAN

[tight trout]

not used anymore

[polar spoke]

that doesn't really make sense

[shy bough]

Hi guys, sorry this is a bit random but anyone got a discount or afilliate code for thm? Maybe i can help someone out

[modern anchor]

but what was that

[tight trout]

student gets discount on annual sub

[polar spoke]

do you guys not have NAT?

[shy bough]

I'm not a student sadly

[polar spoke]

what controls your local subnet?

[tight trout]

dkob said they do 50% offs every now and again

otherwise it's black friday sales

[knotty valve]

We do, CGNAT is handled on the NBN Side

[polar spoke]

🤔

[dark wolf]

ISP circuit connect to modem and use router on stick or to the router?

[knotty valve]

My modem controls how the Lan works, and defaults to the router and that deals with other shit

[tight trout]

it was an event iirc

[modern anchor]

only annual

[polar spoke]

that's not what a modem does though

[tight trout]

yes

[polar spoke]

a router controls how the LAN works

[knotty valve]

Modem is a mix of a router and switch

[polar spoke]

a modem is used for translating upstream to the router

no, a modem is a modem

but i see where the disconnect is

this is a terminology issue, not an understanding issue

[knotty valve]

There is no disconnect lol

[polar spoke]

well there is here

since that's simply not what a modem is

[knotty valve]

The modem is literally there as my switch that distributes whatever the ISP/NBN foes

[polar spoke]

at least, not by the definition i'm familiar with

[knotty valve]

I'm also able to VLAN off my modem too lol

[polar spoke]

that's not a modem

[knotty valve]

Which is a switch system

[knotty valve]

https://www.tp-link.com/au/service-provider/xdsl/archer-vr1600v/

[polar spoke]

modem, meaning modulator-demodulator, is the device that does the translation between analog/digital upstram

[tight trout]

i like the KOTH reference in your status

[knotty valve]

PLS argue this with tp link

Lmfao

[polar spoke]

no

that device HAS a modem IN IT

but it is upstream from the router portion of that device

the router does the routing, literally control of the LAN and routing packets where they need to go

the modem simply translates between the upstream WAN connection and the router

[rapid merlin]

Are u developer of hashcat bro

[polar spoke]

yes

well, not THE developer

just on the core team

[rapid merlin]

Then what

[rapid merlin]

Okay

[polar spoke]

also, for some added complications here, unless you are using the DSL port, that device is likely not acting as a modem ever

as the WAN port there is RJ45 and likely comes from an upstream Cable modem or fiber gateway or similar

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-14955634131026949607

[knotty valve]

Welcome to how shit doesn't work elsewhere in the world™

There's an NBN router that passes to the ISP

If you'd like to argue this further please come live in Australia

[hallow stag]

660 rooms down

[dark wolf]

Damn!! only 6 more till you unlock Satan's Room

[stiff geyser]

Hey does anyone how to separate a home wifi network to primary and secondary do i need to have some router that can do that or just any can do

[dark wolf]

primary and secondary what?

are you trying to separate the network into two networks?

[whole yew]

It works that way every where else. If Australia is backwards enough that "modem" doesn't mean what it does in literally every other country, that's Australia's failure.

[stiff geyser]

Yes it should be possible

[whole yew]

That doesn't answer the question of what do you mean by primary and secondary

[stiff geyser]

Networks

[dark wolf]

Yes, with a router, you would create two separate subnets and then either run two switches to the router or a switch that can do vlans

[whole yew]

Primary DNS? Primary radio? Primary vlan?

[polar spoke]

that's still how it works with NBN

to be clear

[dark wolf]

preferably one with a firewall

[polar spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFMSZGoOx6w

[whole yew]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-unclear-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-that-is-not-yet-clear-that-is-indefinite-gif-21987410

[polar spoke]

the modem is still upstream of the router for your LAN

otherwise... you wouldn't have a LAN, you'd have 1 system

[dark wolf]

so you would have something like 192.168.1.0/24 for one network and 192.168.2.0/24 for another

[whole yew]

IIRC not all home network devices are capable of separating DHCP that way. Especially if it's lower-end or ISP provided gear

[knotty valve]

Well I can assure you, the FTTC I have is a router and not anything else

[polar spoke]

yeah, ISP provided are particularly bad about allowing a single DHCP subnet

[dark wolf]

RIght, you can't do it with devices locked down by your provider, but if you get your own device you can. I have a Mikrotik and it works well

[knotty valve]

And this is what the modem I showed earlier has to connect to

[dark wolf]

but it's got a steeper learning curve than a netgear or something like that

[polar spoke]

if you're not on cable or DSL, you don't have a modem in use at all

you have a gateway or similar

it's fiber, there's no analog to be converted into digital by a modem

[stiff geyser]

I read something about that you can make 2 separate networks like primary and secondary

[hallow stag]

I guess that is true I will let you know lol

[stiff geyser]

Somethi g like this https://www.popsci.com/diy/how-to-set-up-guest-wifi-network/#:~:text=This isn't to say,prominently in the router settings.

[whole yew]

Owning the device doesn't guarantee that ability out of the box, Vigorizante. Rolling a RPi and a opnsense appliance might make more sense.

[polar spoke]

i've just jumped from pfsense to opnsense, now that you mention it

[knotty valve]

I essentially have this setup with my firewall atm, there's usually an access point or a switch followed by an ap that does this

[polar spoke]

been ok so far, but i am still considering VyOS as an alternative since i'm chasing 10/40gb throughput

[tight trout]

you should be able to do that from your router

[whole yew]

Not all wifi access points are capable of this - you need to make sure the AP has two radios in it, so it can broadcast two different SSIDs.

[whole yew]

network engineering at my work is migrating to VyOS but I don't have any hands on with it

[polar spoke]

it seems pretty good

just opnsense was more familiar for me to swap to

[dark wolf]

You will still need a switch capable of doing VLANS or two switches each connected to the router in order for separte networks

[whole yew]

I give it low odds that low-end/ISP provided network gear has two radios

[whole yew]

Yeah, I hear that. opnsense is a fairly recent fork from pfsense. I think it was caused by some sort of meltdown between the primary maintainer and the lead community devs

[knotty valve]

The ISP provided boxes I've been given usually have two

[dark wolf]

two radios ?? for what?

[knotty valve]

Except for one low end shitty Huawei one

I usually have my own gear I run with anyway

[whole yew]

Not necessarily. A single switch should be able to handle two networks side by side with appropriate routing rules in place.

[dark wolf]

You don't need two radios for two wireless networks, you need two ssids or an authentication system and one ssid. you also need 0 radios for two wired networks

[polar spoke]

yeah, at least it's maintained

[whole yew]

Depends on if the switch is managed or not

[dark wolf]

I've been doing networking for 25 years, you need VLANS or two switches

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[tight trout]

eh ours does

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dark wolf]

A switch is not a router

[knotty valve]

VLANs are a god send

[dark wolf]

A router is your device connecting to the ISP, you wire your switch to it and provide LAN

if you want more than one network on the LAN you need VLANS

if you want more than one network on the WLAN you need 2 SSIDS or something like ISE that can do 802.1X authorization and ..

COA authorization, but you wouldn't be able to do that one a home router

[knotty valve]

2 SSIDs generally need two radio controllers

You could technically do 2 SSIDs on 2.4 and 5

[whole yew]

Routing rules is probably the terminology. Managed switches do allow ACLs for different networks on the same ports, I'm happy to be wrong to learn something new

[dark wolf]

Not true, a WLC can have hudreds of APS and each AP can do multipe SSIDS

[knotty valve]

By setting 2.4 as one SSID and 5 as another

[dark wolf]

it doens't matter how many radios, the radios are 2.4GHZ or 5GHZ and they can be set on channels

you can have multiple SSIDS broadcasting on the same frequency

There are AP's with 10+ SSIDs but the more you have, the more you degrade the system

[whole yew]

Isn't a single radio locked to a specific SSID? Especially on consumer and prosumer grade gear, I've never seen the option to broadcast multiple SSIDs on the same radio

[knotty valve]

Consumer gear yeah

[dark wolf]

You could be talking about consumer provider routers

[whole yew]

Consumer grade is the focus of the OPs question

[dark wolf]

they can lock that down yes, but if you buy a ubiquity or mikrotik

[knotty valve]

Enterprise/business you generally have full control over it

[dark wolf]

then you can do multiple SSID on same radio no problem

[whole yew]

I will very happily shut up when we start talking actual enterprise grade networking gear. I never got beyond CCNA on that front

[dark wolf]

And uniquity and mikrotik are cheap

[polar spoke]

it IS possible to do multiple SSID on one radio, sometimes

iirc it's VAP

and not all radios support it

[dark wolf]

I have 2 CCNP 🙂

[knotty valve]

Consumer generally runs locked down firmware for security reasons or stability

[dark wolf]

I've designed wireless networks for convention centers

[knotty valve]

I don't generally touch wireless

Unless it's Intel reasons

[whole yew]

I have a Ubiquity DMP, I don't remember being able to assign multiple SSIDs to my access points in the console

[dark wolf]

I've troubleshot countless wireless headaches, and VoIP ... CoIP and wirelss suck

[whole yew]

Not saying you are wrong on that, just that I never saw it (likely because I never used it)

[knotty valve]

VoIP is the bane of my existence

[polar spoke]

as long as it's a recent wifi chipset, the actual wifi radio/chipset likely supports it

[dark wolf]

Broadcasting Multiple WiFi SSIDs

By default, UniFi APs broadcast SSIDs on all available WiFi bands (2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz for WiFi6E compatible devices). They can also be configured so that SSIDs are limited to select WiFi bands, such as only 5GHz.

Normally an individual AP is capable of broadcasting four separate SSIDs on each WiFi band, however this limit increases to eight if Wireless Meshing is disabled.

Note: We do not recommend creating high quantities of SSIDs because this can increase interference and degrade WiFi performance.

[polar spoke]

but the actual software driving it may not

[whole yew]

as a pentester, I love seeing VOIP at the bullpen desks

[dark wolf]

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/15320966415127-Broadcasting-Multiple-WiFi-SSIDs

[polar spoke]

apparently OpenWRT lacked VAP support some years ago due to a bug, per the thread i'm reading right now about times when VAP isn't supported lol

[dark wolf]

WHen you are broadcasting networks, they send out packets every so often

[polar spoke]

which limited devices arbitrarily to one SSID per radio

[knotty valve]

How does wireless meshing work any different to a general mesh top?

[dark wolf]

so by having more networks, you saturate the channel

[knotty valve]

I thought it was the same topology

[dark wolf]

now everyone is slower, so they limit it so people dont complain

wireless meshing, you use one band for the backhaul and one band for the wireless clients

[knotty valve]

This is a great defence mechanism for when people are trying to hijack radio comms

Forces anyone not on your gear off it essentially

[dark wolf]

so if you are serving up 5ghz, you cant use 2.4ghz as it is used for the mesh

[knotty valve]

Flood the frequency till only you exist

I admit I've had to deploy this tactic before

It's not efficient but it works

[knotty valve]

Ah

[dark wolf]

People used to do deauth attacks for that

[knotty valve]

I'll have to look more into wireless meshing ngl

Don't plan on using it but seems interesting as an architecture

[dark wolf]

I only have one aP in a single story 1800sqft house and it works great

[knotty valve]

My watchguard firewall is acting as my ap rn

[dark wolf]

nice

[knotty valve]

I believe it's just working as whatever defaults are there for wireless

[stiff geyser]

You mean 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz it has that

[knotty valve]

Wireless nets in that area are beyond my understanding

[dark wolf]

Actually we have 6 Ghz now

so 3 bands

[knotty valve]

I'm more into number radios and satellite

I only took wireless classes for the sigint revision that's in the first three weeks 🤣

[dark wolf]

You don't want to work in wireless anyway, it sucks. Wireless is BEST EFFORT meaning it's not supposed to be reliable, but guess what?

[knotty valve]

It's what we use the most

[dark wolf]

All companies treat you like, you should be able to make it to work

Yeah, how about you remove all these GIANT glass panels if you want it to work

[knotty valve]

My workplace is solely wired

With very minimal wireless

But we subcontract to specialists for wireless comms

[stiff geyser]

I still dont get how to do it because when i go to router interface on 192.168.1.1 i dont see the option to make 2 networks or anything

[knotty valve]

It we pull from other sectors if it's an immediate attention

[knotty valve]

2 networks needs a VLAN

[dark wolf]

you can't do it with that device i bet, what is the device model number and make

Google "Device make model multiple networks"

[knotty valve]

It should be in your device manual too

Throw back to when I found 60 active vulnerabilities in an ISP router

Running Linux 3

[stiff geyser]

Its some device from my network provider and i asked them they didnt even know what i was talking about

Speedport W 724V

[knotty valve]

"I wonder why there's so many issues happening with this network..."
5 minutes later: "well that explains a lot"

[knotty valve]

Binned the ISP router (not literally) and replaced it with some mid tier Asus router

Cause it worked well enough

[dark wolf]

Best you can do is guest wifi

[knotty valve]

https://forum.mikrotik.com/t/two-hap-ac-connected-to-german-telekom-router-guest-wifi/103639

Seems to be different?

Wouldn't be surprised if this is a per-ISP thing

Oh nvm

I can't read

I really need my glasses lmfao

[stiff geyser]

I dont see that option anywhere there is just a ssid for the 2.4 ghz one and 5

[dark wolf]

haha

[knotty valve]

You’re right, that speedport doesn’t support this. My switch does support VLAN, but I suppose I do not get it routed to my speedport.

[stiff geyser]

And the 5 one isnt even visible

So best to buy my own router?

[knotty valve]

Generally yeah

[dark wolf]

I don't know much about that router but this is a great one

https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RB750Gr3-5-port-Ethernet-Gigabit/dp/B01MSUMVUB

But you need a separate AP

[knotty valve]

Also stops the ISP from pushing BS "updates" like they're known for here

[quick blaze]

true, but its fun to follow the wannabe ones! :D

[dark wolf]

However, the Mikrotik config can be complicated

[knotty valve]

PMC as in Private Military Corp?

[silver sky]

Go do it for real life 😂

[silver sky]

Yeeee

[knotty valve]

Yk what I need in life

A way to batch together ACL commands

[knotty valve]

Cause according to cisco

[dark wolf]

That's my router interface

[knotty valve]

You can't batch, you HAVE TO Input every IP manually

[dark wolf]

I don't have wireless though, thats just the same interface for all their product

[stiff geyser]

This isnt even wireless

[dark wolf]

Give me an example

[knotty valve]

Thought so, from the context

[dark wolf]

you buy a separate AP, no big deal

you want those separate anyway

Buy a router that routes and an AP that APs'

[knotty valve]

One moment cause I don't remember ACL commands off the top of my head

[dark wolf]

instead of a half ass router and a half ass ap

[silver sky]

I don't miss working for PMCs 😂 I miss the money tho

[stiff geyser]

I think i get what you mean ill google some more about this

[knotty valve]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/sdwan/command/iosxe/qualified-cli-command-reference-guide/m-acl-commands.pdf

The first two pages are good examples

Unless obj_src and obj_dest allow for lumping IPs

But I don't see that as a possibility with how often I've used cisco

[dark wolf]

LEt me look

[knotty valve]

Actually

[dark wolf]

Are you doing standard or extended ACL?

[knotty valve]

Yeah the only way to glob block or allow IPs is if it's the same network

[knotty valve]

Generally only use standard

Never had a reason to use extended before tbh

Maybe extended lets me one line deny more than one IP or network

[dark wolf]

They aren't showing the subnet in those examples

[knotty valve]

Yeah normal ACL is per IP

At least to what I've been taught and used it as

General at work we had an interface and the commands were templated and autoran

So we rarely touched the cli

Less human error that way

[dark wolf]

Let me dig further to recall, I mostly stay away from standard acl because you used to have to redo the whole ACL to insert a line.. give me a sec

[knotty valve]

Never had to remove an ACL to fix it before

[dark wolf]

oh yeah wildcard is what you need

[knotty valve]

I recently used the standard ACL

[knotty valve]

Yeah deny all

[inland hatch]

Hello all ,
Anyone here who competed in July HackerVerse CTF by Ec-council ?
I want to know and learn about what I missed.

[knotty valve]

And stuff

[dark wolf]

so to permit 192.168.1.0 you would do 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255

[knotty valve]

But that's for mass blocking one network

I wanna just block IPs across multiple nets in one command

[dark wolf]

Instead of subnet mask its wildcard mask which is kindof a XOR of the subnet mask

So, for example what network do you want to block

[knotty valve]

Oh I know how to network block

That's the network IP + subnet

[dark wolf]

no, in cisco ACL its wildcard mask instead of subnet mask, its wack

thats why the 255 and 0 are backward

[knotty valve]

I mean blocking 192.168.1.59, 10.5.5.1, 30.50.60.80 in one command

Without needing to write the same command when it's the same deny

[dark wolf]

oh, that ... haha , no they have to be in a subnet or single ip

[knotty valve]

Yeah

It's pain they don't have a command to glob it yet

[dark wolf]

That's cuz people just write scripts to do it

[knotty valve]

I know I could just write a script for it

[dark wolf]

lol girl