general

[brisk ore]

That's what I'm doing at least

[topaz falcon]

Compsci gives you the best foundational education compared to cybersecurity.

[keen light]

if you have compsci it will generally be regarded higher than a cyber

[topaz falcon]

Which you'll need.

[rapid merlin]

The funny thing is that i called the college yesterday and these mfs gatekept this shit and told me to plan a meeting for them to ask the prices and also partnerships

Fuck their marketing strategies

[topaz falcon]

That sounds sus

[rapid merlin]

No its just a marketing strategy

An annoying one to say the least

[topaz falcon]

Ehhhh

[brisk ore]

That sounds more like a scam tbh lol

[rapid merlin]

No every college does this

[brisk ore]

Generally a uni would be pretty upfront about their curriculum

[rapid merlin]

Because its open

Colleges are closed which means payment and tuition

[brisk ore]

Like my uni has what they teach listed on their website for everyone to see for comp sci

[rapid merlin]

You dont pay for uni tho right?

[brisk ore]

I do yes

[rapid merlin]

You do?

I thought you get in uni with final exams

[brisk ore]

Well, yes and no

[brisk ore]

Correct, but uni enrollment is a fixed yearly fee in the UK

£9500

[rapid merlin]

JEEZ

[brisk ore]

for this upcoming academic year

[keen light]

in denmark they pay you to go uni

I'am in the uk tho

[brisk ore]

I'm pretty sure in the Netherlands it's free for everyone but they have the highest dropout rate because a lot of people go

[rapid merlin]

Yeah in serbia too but only if you are in the police academy or in the military or firefighter

[brisk ore]

It is, which is why the government has something called Student Finance

Where they'll effectively fund you going to uni with no upfront cost.

Then essentially your future earnings beyond a certain point gets taxed to pay off the loan

[rapid merlin]

Dont you pay with doses?

[tight flower]

Hi guys i need help with burp suite if anyone experienced please help me?

[loud orbit]

What uni u go

[brisk ore]

While studying? No

[sleek oak]

This is why I work part time to pay off my tuition at uni

[rapid merlin]

Damn

[brisk ore]

You only pay after graduating and if you earn above a certain amount

[brisk ore]

Uni of Leicester

[rapid merlin]

Oh you pay AFTER?

[brisk ore]

For most people yes, you can pay up front if your parents can bankroll you though

Which means you get no debt upon graduating

But that's assuming you're a domestic student

[sleek oak]

He’s right though

[brisk ore]

Things are a lot more... expensive if you're outside the UK studying in

[rapid merlin]

Bro idk I am about to get a perfect graded software engineering diplomma this year but its only within the country, and Im thinking of going to this college to get the cybersecurity degree which is international...

[loud orbit]

Bc they get internships like timo

He a soc in Holland

[loud orbit]

Oh shit no way u like a hour from me lol

[brisk ore]

I was, now I'm in Oxford lol

[loud orbit]

Got for international certs and stuff

For sure

[rapid merlin]

Those are the partnerships

[loud orbit]

Lolll

[sleek oak]

I live in U.S. have to pay 25k tuition a yr.

I don’t do loans 😞

[brisk ore]

None of these are particularly prestigious.

I would say the most reputable are Oxford Brookes and Keele but even then they're mostly second rate unis

[rapid merlin]

Completely normal because you guys are getting payed more than us 💀

[rapid merlin]

They are enough to get me a job tho right...?

[sleek oak]

I can’t complain about it.

I rather gamble 😭

[rapid merlin]

They do? 6k may be their average salary.

[brisk ore]

I would say a lot of the time and effort into getting a job will be spent outside the degree ngl.

At least with my experience of getting a 12 month placement/internship

Obviously the degree is important

But if you can do hackathons, ctfs, projects and other stuff beyond it

It makes you stand out much more

[rapid merlin]

Degrees are the face and the experience is the personality

You see the experience as you go but the degree is the first thing they'll notice

[loud orbit]

Defo should network lolll if I do get on that apprenticeship I’ll let yk 😂😎

Defo should tho

[loud orbit]

True

[loud orbit]

Trus me way moreeee

[rapid merlin]

Bro no 💀

@gusty inlet I think bro spammed accidentally can you unmute him pls?

[sleek oak]

My uní only teach theory’s. I didn’t put my hands on coding. So I have to learn my own way… I just go to Cisco networking academy

[brisk ore]

I do have a linkedin but I'd rather not dox myself over discord lmao

[rapid merlin]

lmao

But idk... Im cornered...

[loud orbit]

Can dm me

[loud orbit]

That’s facts ,hands on experience matter the most ,more then certs etc

[rapid merlin]

I wanna go to cybersecurity but I cant with a software engineering degree mixed with thm experience

[loud orbit]

How not ?

That’s wrong

[rapid merlin]

They are completely opposites tho no?

[loud orbit]

No

Soft ware is very related

But if u wanna get a job

Focus on blue on try hack me

Do u

[rapid merlin]

Like software enigineering is coding cybersecurity is basically linux with bash and rust and shits and networks

[loud orbit]

Yh but it is still coding aswell

[rapid merlin]

It's the 25% of it

The rest is networks with kali knowledge or parrot/blackarch.. basically linux
and also tools and shit

[loud orbit]

Software engineers must write secure code to prevent cyber attacks (like SQL injection, XSS, buffer overflows).
Many cyberattacks happen because of bad coding—so understanding secure coding is part of cybersecurity.

[brisk ore]

Might do so later, thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @loud orbit (current: #1505 - 3)

[loud orbit]

Yhyh I dm you

[zenith crescent]

you only need one person on a team who knows how to sanitize code bases

though, I will agree, having people on the security team who can at least understand what the coders r doing is a plus, but separation of duties

if a company expects u to write their code, handle their security/policy adherence, and legal, then you're being rinsed.

[loud orbit]

Yh root was saying software engineering isn’t related to cyber and I disagreed

[loud orbit]

Facts

[zenith crescent]

it's adjacent at best. Moreso for senior roles

[loud orbit]

I meant in terms of knowledge

The hands on skill is a plain

Plus *

[loud marlin]

... i hate making plugins for obsidian... dumb .js

[short kindle]

🫃

[spice snow]

yo im in linux part 1 im trying to find the passwords to the file but wen i use the command its not finding anything any suggestions

[tight trout]

what command?

[spice snow]

find -name passwords.txt

[tight trout]

id ask your question in #room-help

[spice snow]

okay bet

[zealous linden]

hi guys i finished the jr pentester path and gained some good bases and idk if there is any other path in this style

[spark verge]

Now you go ethically hack the world.

[topaz falcon]

Keep in mind compsci majors are not entirely swe. They are as the name implies, the science of computers. Bad compsci degrees are focused only on swe.

Compsci sets you up more for cybersecurity, as the foundations are extremely important to understand.

[hard dragon]

waiting for hashcat:

https://tenor.com/view/kooslibra-shrek-donkey-meme-gif-1469023059744434525

[zealous linden]

thank u

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @spark verge (current: #3035 - 1)

[hard dragon]

me waiting for hashcat on vb

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-robloxian-federation-federation's-steak-and-fries-fsf-irf-waiting-gif-12197026638972879567

[solid umbra]

who's from canada here?

[hard dragon]

I almost tagged somebody named Canada 😅

[sick basin]

anybody having problem with the servers?

[dark wolf]

stop waiting and write your own python script sheesh

🙂

[hard dragon]

the next step

[dark wolf]

python can do everything hashcat can do, hashcat just makes it easier

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-train-loaf-gif-16290561475055465817

[hard dragon]

yes. I know python and learned out the write scripts.

[loud orbit]

Question is try hack me still good in the free plan ? For example I can only do Linux fundamentals part 1 so is that kinda useless or ? Advice or opinions

[hard dragon]

but for now i'm focusing more on ctf/certs and after that I will focus on scripts.

[sick basin]

I prefer sub ⭐

[dark wolf]

Chozen: It's worth the $10/month

You won't find this great of content without paying

[loud orbit]

What if I Carnt pay rn

My card bruhh

[loud orbit]

I get that

[hard dragon]

100% the Pentesting Jr worth more than 200$

[sick basin]

Then you should go work for a day and next day you can start your sub plan 🙂

[dark wolf]

Then I suggest you look at your budget and psending

cut back on spending until you get a job in cyber then you can go back to spending

[hard dragon]

just that also the paths and the rooms 1000% worth

[sick basin]

Even I bought Annual Sub 😄

[dark wolf]

Like, you can totally learn on your own, but by the time you crack Kim Jong Un, he will have updated his security. Pay for this and you can exploit him before he updates his security

Your self learning pace without a program will always leave you behind, you can't study or learn that fast, you go down so many rabbit holes.

[hard dragon]

100% worth I'm not saying it because It's a thm server.

you can learn from 0 to 100% just in paths in thm.

[dark wolf]

Even these challenges put me down rabbit holes and trying to crack a password now I'm wondering why some app wont install because it may or may not work. Rabbit HOLES!! Tons of them.

The training helps steer you right.

[loud orbit]

Oh for real it’s like that

[hard dragon]

I don't know if thm has python learning if there is that also a bounus.

[dark wolf]

Yeah Chozen, think of it like having 1000 options, and you have to select sub options and you are never going to find the optimal path on your own.

[hard dragon]

that one bitcoin challange

[dark wolf]

You might find some way to make it work, but is it the quickest?

[dark wolf]

I love Python, been doing it for 9 or10 years, did perl for 15 years before that

and had some PHP for a few years in that span

i don't use php or perl now .. just python

[hard dragon]

in thm there is a python challanges?

[sick basin]

Most of the time people paying (on different sites) around 50$ for each room THM have, thats why it worths!

[hard dragon]

I know python but I need to train more about writing scripts

[dark wolf]

Not sure, but you can definitely use python to solve many of the challenges

[loud orbit]

I understand everything you saying

[spice snow]

how many of yall actually got a job in cyber-security

[loud orbit]

So the free version is no good ?

[daring walrus]

what kind

[shut hawk]

many of us

[hard dragon]

yes I did that. but I want a challenge just on python.

[hard dragon]

I'm asking idk

[south egret]

Aint no way

[shut hawk]

I'll give you a python challenge

[daring walrus]

https://tryhackme.com/room/pyrat

here is one

[hard dragon]

Thanks

[spice snow]

@shut hawk wow how long did it take for that to happen

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @daring walrus (current: #809 - 7)

[hard dragon]

that the only thing I asked 😅

[daring walrus]

https://tryhackme.com/room/hfb1cipherssecretmessage this is one too

[hard dragon]

thanks!

[daring walrus]

the cipher one is a pretty fast ctf

[loud orbit]

For real like who ?

[shut hawk]

https://oskaerik.github.io/theevalgame/
here is one, trying to find the other

[shut hawk]

I can think of 15 of the top of my head, from red teaming to leading a SOC, to being a sr pentester

[loud orbit]

So guys try hack me the free version is no good ? If you Carnt pay monthly

[shut hawk]

relative to?

[loud orbit]

Wow in the span of how long ?

[shut hawk]

I don't know each individuals timeframes

[loud orbit]

Oh roughly

[shut hawk]

It's up to them to decide what they want to share

[loud orbit]

Oh oh

I just meant in general

[spice snow]

@jay like to find the job or did they come to you

[shut hawk]

How long is a piece of string? There isn't a straight answer

Everybody is different

I know thats a bit of a boring answer, but it is what it is

[loud orbit]

@shut hawk can u answer this or anyone who is a pro lol

[loud orbit]

Cold example 😎😭

[shut hawk]

I got a connection from here for a job, it was just for during the summer and then I returned to uni. I'd suggest asking in #cyber-and-careers with a bit more specific questions as to what you're looking for, so everyone can answer from their own experiences

[shut hawk]

It's good for starting out

[loud orbit]

How far can I go free ?

[shut hawk]

If you can't afford to, or don't want to, many many sites exist that you can learn from. Nowadays I truly believe you don't need to pay anything to learn, with how much is out there...if you know where to look

[dark mason]

Ahem, ahem 🏴‍☠️ .

[shut hawk]

You can learn a fair amount, it'll probably be more linux geared as the windows stuff is paid ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shut hawk]

I wasn't suggesting piracy :)

Just finding thoes sites that don't have massive SEO

[dark mason]

If you know where to look

You can find anything for free

[tight trout]

which we shouldnt be condoning here

[dark mason]

I wasn't

[shut hawk]

We're not condoning piracy

Being able to research things is the #1 skill

that includings knowing where to look, and how to look for things

[loud orbit]

Like were tho isn’t try hack classed at the best bc it’s hands on plus the most fun and Highly rated

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/damon-salvatore-tvd-gif-19054635

[loud orbit]

U watched it ?

[merry canyon]

Yep

And the originals

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-about-a-mint-bad-breath-your-breath-stinks-poor-hygiene-gif-12239004590067708732

[shut hawk]

Don't get me wrong, THM is good, just saying that other resources exist as well if you can't afford to pay the sub

[merry canyon]

Good morning yall

[loud orbit]

My bro

You need to watch legacies now then

[loud orbit]

Morning ???? Bro it’s 10pm for me LOL

[loud orbit]

Can you guide me ?

I do plan to pay in the future for it

But I if I don’t have to then I won’t lol

[shut hawk]

https://roadmap.sh/cyber-security

Here's a generic roadmap you can use to base your learning of

Notice how it starts with basic computer skills, start there

[merry canyon]

7 am

[loud orbit]

Damnn

[merry canyon]

And im guessing youre up too @knotty valve

[loud orbit]

What resources do u use tho ?

Hopefully I’ll be doing a apprenticeship

[shut hawk]

https://solve.whcc.club/exec @hard dragon Try this too

[hard dragon]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @shut hawk (current: #13 - 631)

[shut hawk]

THM, HTB, This discord, TCM, CryptoHack, Pwn.college, PicoCTF, OffSec, Hacker101 CTF, HackThisSite, LinkedIn Learning, gralhix, WiFi Challenge Labs, Github, YouTube

^ Small portion

[hard dragon]

picoctf is great ngl

of course THM And htb

[dark wolf]

why would you lie

[tight trout]

why wouldnt you lie

[hard dragon]

real

[dark wolf]

my mama told me not to lie

[tight trout]

mine did too :p

or am i lying about that?

[hard dragon]

mine too

I'm sorry 😔

[dark wolf]

I'll apologize to her for you, is her name Ms. Jackson?

[hard dragon]

her name is ||THM{ffxz56_644222a}||

[dark wolf]

I figured y’all were too young for that one lol. i’m sorry ms jackson. i am for reaaaaaaaaal

[gaunt coral]

It is hard to find a job in cyber sec ?

[loud orbit]

Can I just start this tho ?

[knotty valve]

Yeah I've been awake for ages

[loud orbit]

Them *

[ripe sleet]

I know that song

[knotty valve]

Chat

[ripe sleet]

Wot

[knotty valve]

It's tattoo day

[dim spoke]

jezuz christ... what happened to vmware xD? Had to give up all this incredibly personal info just to download their installer xD ? from a shady "broadcom" :)) ?

[tight trout]

YIPPIE

i expect to see final pics when done and healed

[shut hawk]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240229081546/https://download3.vmware.com/software/WKST-1751-WIN/VMware-workstation-full-17.5.1-23298084.exe

you can download an older version and then update it

but yeah, fuck broadcom

[dim spoke]

I am never sure which ones to trust when it comes to archives so at the end I am pretty much always ending up getting the software from the source xD

haven't been 0wn3d so far and I am also not keen to it xD

[shut hawk]

I mean it's a direct link from VMware.com lol

[dim spoke]

ouh wait, thats the internet archive

[dark wolf]

Technically the link you posted is a direct link to web.archive.com

[dim spoke]

yeah, well nevermind xD

[dark wolf]

(https://download3.vmware.com/software/WKST-1751-WIN/VMware-workstation-full-17.5.1-23298084.exe)

That would be the Direct link

[shut hawk]

man read the context

[dark wolf]

but if they removed it off their site, the link is the web archive

[knotty valve]

Real

VMware is dangerous

[tight trout]

have you tried licking it?

that ususally clears things up

[dim spoke]

can you download it for me through that link and then redirect it to me pls?

[dark wolf]

That's even worse, how do you know I won't install a backdoor in it?

[knotty valve]

Wot

Yeah lmao

That's asking for malware to be sent

[dim spoke]

because the link is dead, so TECHNICALLY you can't download it in order to inject it

https://tenor.com/view/git-rekt-get-rekt-rekt-fight-gif-15316187

nerd

[dark wolf]

yes, that's why it's not a direct link to vmware lol

[spark mulch]

Hey everyone!!

[dim spoke]

😂

[knotty valve]

Someone could download an updated version, mod it to look older, and inject malware

Are you going to know? Not until you're compromised

[spark mulch]

I need someone to help me please

[dim spoke]

well, in that case I would have not accepted it, but I was playing at the link being dead

[dark mason]

With?

[dim spoke]

further playing into technicallities and stuff xD

[dark wolf]

A lot of the time you can be compromised and not know it. People will let backdoors sit until they can get enough backdoors to do a DDOS

[shut hawk]

💀

[knotty valve]

Or spin up a massive crypto net

[dark wolf]

Yup

[spark mulch]

I'm new to this hacking thing I want to learn ethical hack

[knotty valve]

cough DRPK cough

[loud orbit]

Never meant to make your daughter cry I apologised a trillion times

[dark mason]

Text book definition of a bot net

[royal gazelle]

thats why everyone uses checksums from the publishers for any new software downloads right

[dim spoke]

well, now since I fish into those waters, its basically impossible not to do a whoopsie in that sense xD I am aware of that xD

[knotty valve]

Can't checksums be messed with

[shut hawk]

is that a wild droogy

[tight trout]

check out #start-here

[dark wolf]

yes droogy, the checksum/hash will be different if you modify the binary

[royal gazelle]

hello it m, how you doin

[knotty valve]

I remember there being some case where the hash doesn't change

[spark mulch]

I'll check it out thanks Slavetomints

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #41 - 247)

[knotty valve]

Don't remember how that worked tho

[shut hawk]

not bad chief, waiting for my exam results rn

how about you?

[tight trout]

hash collision?

[dark wolf]

under certain special circumstances, it may be possible, but that would be unique

[royal gazelle]

collisions are a thing, more of a thing with md5 but thats why md5 is stinky and old

[shut hawk]

any more blog posts on note taking?

[knotty valve]

If you're relying on MD5 sure

Swear it was outside of that tho

Maybe it wasn't

[loud orbit]

Anyone think cloud is a good entry to red team

[royal gazelle]

haha no its been a while, been meaning to get some new blog posts in but mostly sitting on my old domain for mail purposes lol

[knotty valve]

Cloud Security

The bane of my existence

[dark wolf]

RIP OZZY 😦

[tight trout]

yeah, i saw that :/

[knotty valve]

Microsoft with their insanely messed up architecture

[spark mulch]

Hey I check that out but there was guys chatting with each other nothing helpful

[shut hawk]

ha fair enough, I feel you - I recently had to buy back a domain because I registered on a site with it's email 😂

[knotty valve]

Me last year

[tight trout]

....there shouldnt be anyone talking in that channel, its locked

[royal gazelle]

✨cloud is just someone else's on-prem✨

[spark mulch]

Then why did u suggest me that

[knotty valve]

To read what's in there

[tight trout]

because i think you might have gone to the wrong channel

[spark mulch]

Do u know more about hacking?

[tight trout]

click on this: #start-here

[spark mulch]

I guess so

[tight trout]

actually click on the name

[spark mulch]

Hey @tight trout

[tight trout]

yeahg?

[knotty valve]

Yeahg

:3

[tight trout]

:3

[spark mulch]

Do u know more about hacking I mean are u inside the hacking world ?

[tight trout]

why?

[knotty valve]

We have a world dedicated to hackers????

[tight trout]

sign me the fuck up

[knotty valve]

Where have I been all this time? Pluto?

[spark mulch]

I thought if u could help me to teach me hacking basics

[tight trout]

https://tryhackme.com is gonna be able to help you with that

[spark mulch]

Form where to start

[tight trout]

go to the website
make an account
enroll in the pre-security course
start learning

[near hawk]

Pre security path is probably the best way to start

[tight trout]

@spark mulch please dont send friend requests or dms without asking #rules

[crystal mauve]

@gusty inlet man im trying to get a refund on ine lol, cant get a checkmark watching the videos so frustrating

[spark mulch]

Okay I'm sorry

[gusty inlet]

You need to watch everything x1 without skipping.

Or else no checkmark.

[spark mulch]

Yo can we talk?

[crystal mauve]

i did watch it all

3x

20minute fkin video

[gusty inlet]

lol

[spark mulch]

Is here anyone who knows more about hacking

[gusty inlet]

Speed is x1?

[dark wolf]

You watched it too many times, you have to reset your account

just kidding lol

[crystal mauve]

yeah, am streaming it to my tv and i watched on phone half and half on laptop

[loud orbit]

Anyone think cloud is a good entry to red team

[gusty inlet]

Well I can see why it did not count.

[loud orbit]

If yk what a apprenticeship is ,just to ask the pros

[spark mulch]

Am I John Cena? Coz nobody sees my text

[crystal mauve]

lol thats crazy -_-

[dim spoke]

doesn't sound problematic at all for the system to detect that xD

[tight trout]

we have, and we've given direction

[spark mulch]

Can we talk in private

[dark wolf]

You are in a room full of people who are using a hacking website to learn

[gusty inlet]

Log in on one device don't open your account everywhere. How is it supposed to know what to track? Log in on one device and watch it on one device.

[dark wolf]

You also haven't asked any real questions

[gusty inlet]

Don't cast it on TV via WiFi unless it's direct HDMI.

[tight trout]

about what?

[gusty inlet]

It's a course not a Netflix show xD

[crystal mauve]

its way easier to watch on tv, and look at slide on my laptop

[gusty inlet]

Well not sure it's going to count like that.

You can try.

[crystal mauve]

didnt work

[gusty inlet]

Expected. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim spoke]

we get the convenience, we play at the system being able to catch that xD

[spark mulch]

Coz I'm new I don't know much about hacking

[loud orbit]

How you find out about it

[spark mulch]

About the basics of hacking coz I'm so dumb I won't learn it from the web unless someone teach me

[tight trout]

we're not tutors

[royal gazelle]

then hacking may not be for you, which is fine, its not for everyone

[spark mulch]

Maybe I need time

Mr droogy

[loud orbit]

U need hands on learning

[dim spoke]

once you've "learned it" your job is to keep learning and staying on track, so if THAT is your problem, its really not for you. No offense there

[dark wolf]

Once you finish training, there is no hand holding or learning, it's up to you to figure it out on your own at your job

[dim spoke]

on a daily bases on an everchanging envoirement

[gaunt coral]

Cyber security is saturated in your opinion ?

[loud orbit]

What u doing atm

Can u go college or uni ?

[dark wolf]

Depends on where you live

[gaunt coral]

I want to get into it for fun and maybe get a job in the future

I live on florida

[dim spoke]

not at all, the world is screaming for capable CSec specialists, the demand is rising faster than people are jumping onto the train

[dark wolf]

My condolences

[gaunt coral]

Not really but I have free time to learn on my own

[gaunt coral]

hahaha

[dark wolf]

The training on this site is really great

pay for the membership and do as much as you can, you will learn a TON

[loud orbit]

Why not ?

[loud orbit]

Yh just do this then if you not doing anything else and wanna learn

[gaunt coral]

You recommend getting into uni then ?

[loud orbit]

Bc just watching YouTube vids and stuff or reading without doing ent gonna do nothing for u

[gaunt coral]

Bc is kinda expensive

[loud orbit]

U in America enit ?

[gaunt coral]

yeah

[knotty valve]

Uni/college is generally better to have

[merry canyon]

@dim spoke congrats on rank up

[loud orbit]

Very true

[gaunt coral]

gotchu, easier to get a job like that ?

[loud orbit]

It’s structured learning yk

[loud orbit]

More trust

[knotty valve]

Yeah, having certs also help a lot too

[loud orbit]

Facts

And hands on experience etc try hack me etc

[knotty valve]

And getting into IT as a general field will make getting into cyber a lot easier since you're already in the industry

[gaunt coral]

I wanna get certs and apply but I dont know if its a waste of time

[loud orbit]

If you think like that then it won’t work

Having tech bad cyber as a skill is never a waste

[merry canyon]

Ashlynn what did you study?

[gaunt coral]

Im getting into IT first and the to cyber sec

[loud orbit]

Smart

[knotty valve]

Networking and SATCOM, nursing, and now a Bachelor's in Cybersecurity

[loud orbit]

What u doing rn?

[knotty valve]

Also did first year of a science degree directed at physics but left for cyber

[dark wolf]

Very nice

[topaz falcon]

Lockheed is fuming

[tight trout]

lmao

[knotty valve]

They are

[tight trout]

didnt they want you?

[knotty valve]

I turned them down

[dark mason]

I have been summoned

[knotty valve]

Yes

[tight trout]

didnt want to come statesideeeeeee?

[knotty valve]

Fuck no

[tight trout]

real

[gaunt coral]

Which certs you guys reccomend to get ?

[topaz falcon]

If you're new, the CompTIA trifecta

[royal gazelle]

start with some CTFs first and some free courses to see if this is something you would actually be interested in - if you can spend days banging your head against the wall without help on some harder challenges and keep showing up for more then you'll know if this is for you or not

[knotty valve]

For cyber or stating in IT?

[tight trout]

Sec+ is a good one for HR

[knotty valve]

CompTIA, CCNA, OSCP, CRTA, etc

Depends on what you want to do

[topaz falcon]

If they don't go to college, A+, Net+ would be an ideal place to start and then getting into IT, right?

[knotty valve]

Yea

[topaz falcon]

Though CCNA would be cheaper and better if they go into networks?

[knotty valve]

CCNA will help as well

[royal gazelle]

CCNA training has gotten a bit weird in the past few years from my understanding

[knotty valve]

IT in general requires a fair amount of network knowledge occasionally

[gaunt coral]

tyty

[knotty valve]

It kinda has

I used people like David Bombal and Network Chuck when self studying for the CCNA

[topaz falcon]

Jeremy's it lab has an entire playlist for free for CCNA that is up to date, with labs

Messer is good for A+

[knotty valve]

I did my CCNP Enterprise after I left my comms engineer job

[gaunt coral]

In how much time I can start working in cyber security ?

[loud orbit]

Best place for ctfs? Free ?

[gaunt coral]

College is like 4 years if im not wrong

[tight trout]

depends on the person

some do it quiicker

some slower

[dim spoke]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @merry canyon (current: #809 - 7)

[loud orbit]

Different for everyone

Depends what u wanna do aswell

How much effort you put in

[dim spoke]

currently more working on finding the sweetspot for my kali-usage than on the rooms xD

[gaunt coral]

on average, I've been on a computer since I was 6 years old so I have some knowledge

[royal gazelle]

at a good program if you are diligent you'll probably be able to start working within 2 years of a bachelor degree

[tight trout]

yeah, i got my associates in a year :p

[gaunt coral]

I can spent 10 hours a day on a pc

[tight trout]

thats probably not healthy

[dim spoke]

is there an inbuild-command to check hardware specs on Kali? Like to see what hardware its actually recognizing/using?

[tight trout]

dmesg

[gaunt coral]

cool !

[tight trout]

kinda

[loud orbit]

@royal gazelle best place for ctfs for beginners ?

[dim spoke]

absolute legend! Rest of the internet was throwing me only commands that need apt xD

[royal gazelle]

I dont really keep up on CTFs anymore but ctftime is probably still the gold standard for finding new ones

[gaunt coral]

I know my eyes and brain are fried

[dim spoke]

thanks

[tight trout]

reccomend pairing it with grep if youre looking for somehting specific

[dim spoke]

bot, give her the credit!

[knotty valve]

https://ctftime.org

[dim spoke]

thank you

[tight trout]

❯ sudo dmesg | grep -i kitty
[21001.406744] usb 3-6: Product: Razer Kraken Kitty V2

[knotty valve]

Find ones with low weights

[loud orbit]

Or anyone

That I can just jump in

[dim spoke]

well, I tried

[loud orbit]

Can I do it as a complete beginner but not a complete noob if ygm

[tight trout]

youre on cooldown probably lol

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[tight trout]

yeah you need to wait like 10 min i think

[dim spoke]

last time it was in the morning xD how hot did it get xD ?

[knotty valve]

+rep @tight trout

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #41 - 249)

[tight trout]

#general message lol

[gaunt coral]

Did you went to college or by your own ?

[merry canyon]

As in is it too much and you need to cut down)

[tight trout]

went to a CC for my associates of art, now going to a polytech for my bachelors of cybersec

[merry canyon]

have you started yours?

[gaunt coral]

Awesome tyty

[tight trout]

school starts in september lol

[merry canyon]

Its gonna be super easy for you

[dim spoke]

no, trying to make use of my GPU in VM's to assist with decryption and stuff. But no chance xD

[merry canyon]

Considering youve already built foundational knowledge

And all they’ll do is give you fundamentals

[gaunt coral]

I need like a roadmap bc im kinda lost but its ok, im going to start with IT and then move on

[dim spoke]

got down into the rabbit hole of VMWare but got scammed out of my mind. Its still using a small VM-GC with I guess 128-256MB VRam

"install Workstation player from VMWare it can use the entire graphics card" they said... xD

not even noticing that its an AMD xD

[tight trout]

https://roadmap.sh

:3

[merry canyon]

Everything going over on top of my head

[tight trout]

https://roadmap.sh/cyber-security

eyyy i got it

guys in so s\amurt

fuck

lmao

[gaunt coral]

thank youuuuu!!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #40 - 250)

[tight trout]

:3

#repFarming

[knotty valve]

You went to art school?

[tight trout]

[gaunt coral]

[tight trout]

youve seen my stick figures lmao

[gaunt coral]

art

Are you currently working in cyber sec or not yet ?

[knotty valve]

So nothing like this?

[tight trout]

ive done education IT and industrial IT

[knotty valve]

Arson!

[tight trout]

i love my collection of shit i've burned

[loud orbit]

Ok and it’s free?

[tight trout]

yes

as long as its open to the public

[loud orbit]

What is everyone opinions on apprenticeship?

Still a very good route academically etc real world experience

[loud orbit]

Thxxx mints

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/wazzup-gif-25996981

[loud orbit]

Wasuppppp

[merry canyon]

Waszzzzapppp

[loud orbit]

U got class tmoz ?

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hera-pheri-hera-pheri-akshay-kumar-phir-hera-pheri-gif-16882350712313044153

[merry canyon]

Right now 😥

[tight trout]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-25271696

[merry canyon]

Im on my way to class

[loud orbit]

Gl

Enjoy it and soak up all the teaching

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-sheen-charlie-harper-two-and-a-half-men-grandma-grandmother-gif-7347092240146402280

[merry canyon]

Nah bro, im gonna grind thm during class

Cant let r00t get ahead of me

[loud orbit]

Is the IT bachelor no good then ??

[loud orbit]

😂😂😂

Let’s see your account

👀

I still need to acc do rooms instead of just browsing 💀💀😂

[merry canyon]

Theory + fundamentals + little handson, its basically a stamp on me saying hes got a qualification, thm and certs like handson stuff like ejot pnpt, thats a stamp that, we can back his degree, he knows his way around

[merry canyon]

Have you verified uour account here

[loud orbit]

Smart that literally the same with me ,onna lvl 3 bootcamp blue team all theory for 2 months but I get a cert on august 16th I’ve basically passed already

[loud orbit]

Nooo lol I’ll do it now

[merry canyon]

Have you tried blue team on thm?

are you here for red team or blue team

and whats your opinion between the difference of bootcamp vs thm, if youve done both

[loud orbit]

The provider who runs the course has connections with employers so I aim to get on a cloud apprenticeship through them after also you get a guaranteed soc job interview

Only for experience tho

[merry canyon]

That is amazing

[loud orbit]

Nobody in my class of 15 will get it 😂even the teacher said

Good for networking tho

[merry canyon]

What is this

[loud orbit]

Cloud mixed with red also blue tbh

Cloud security

[merry canyon]

Imagine your connection+skills

[rapid merlin]

Broskis I have a question

OOOO

[merry canyon]

the devil is here

[rapid merlin]

RIZZLER

[merry canyon]

I just mentioned you r00t

[loud orbit]

Bootcamps are only theory so

[rapid merlin]

Yo where

[merry canyon]

..

[grim sparrow]

Done!

[knotty valve]

Thanks Jabba ❤️

[merry canyon]

who got…

[rapid merlin]

😈

[mossy river]

Nini sleepy time

[knotty valve]

Person who sent the scam images

[rapid merlin]

Btw I have a question...

[merry canyon]

Oh right

[ripe sleet]

Goodnight Jabba!

[rapid merlin]

Like can people find my full name just from myphone number?

[loud orbit]

True true ill help anyone tho ,I’ll give you a update if I do get on a apprenticeship should tho ,my teacher said everyone in here previous classes have all got on them she has new classes every 2 months

[merry canyon]

Btw how does one check a scam link/image without risking their stuff? How do you mods do it to verify its fraud before banning them

[wary ocean]

I think so. If you're 18+ and own phone than yes

[merry canyon]

goodnight

[rapid merlin]

How do they do that-

[wary ocean]

Cuz your phone will be in your name

[rapid merlin]

But its not wifi or network and shi

[knotty valve]

Too much effort to query service providers to try and do this

Easier to find accounts linked to that number online

[tight trout]

night jabba!

[merry canyon]

once i get good skills, ill contact you, maybe you can hook me up too

[wary ocean]

Iirc Whitepages should have it listed

Granted with a fee and terms and conditions but still

[merry canyon]

Truecallee for example

Back then it was so broken

[rapid merlin]

How tf can hackers access your shit with just a phone nymber 💀

Im confused

[merry canyon]

It gave you all sorts of information

I never understood how it worked tbh

[wary ocean]

Cuz you're name is on the phone

[tight trout]

did you leave the server?

[merry canyon]

Yeah

[rapid merlin]

But it's not network related

[rapid merlin]

Oh I always do

[merry canyon]

He thinks its distractive

[tight trout]

ah

[rapid merlin]

To study and not get caught lacking

[rapid merlin]

yee

[tight trout]

okay

[rapid merlin]

Hold up lemme verify

[tight trout]

lmao

[merry canyon]

So youre calling me a lacker r00t

💔

[wary ocean]

Yes but whitepages will still have it. It acts like a phonebook. Same way you can search on there someone's name and find their relatives

[loud orbit]

I think so yk

[spice ermine]

rip ozzy ozbourne

he died today

[rapid merlin]

DAMNNNNNNNn

[spice ermine]

one of the best singers

[rapid merlin]

Wait I wanna try it on my own..

[wary ocean]

Depending on the person. Sometimes it fucks up and either doesn't show anything or shows the wrong person

[spice ermine]

ozzy ozbourne will forever be missed

[rapid merlin]

Mage u know how to do it I wanna try it on myself 💀

[loud orbit]

Yh for sure I got u were you based tho ?

[knotty valve]

They can't search numbers here due to laws

So aus and nz Whitepages is useless

[rapid merlin]

Well if its your own there is no prob right?

[wary ocean]

But. You have to pay money to access any more information than just a name. And sign a thing saying you're not going to use it illegaly

[loud orbit]

I’ll teach you tho or advise you from my experience or what im taught

[merry canyon]

You already know

[loud orbit]

Ohh Yh

Had to check

lol

[rapid merlin]

Btw my best friend is gonna get into a fight tomorrow due to a chick and bf shit 💀

Wish I could do some watch dogs shit on this dude lmao

https://tenor.com/view/watch-dogs-aiden-pearce-gif-24406653

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/aiden-pearce-watch-dogs-gif-1946489600483675312

thought me and you were bestfriends

but oh well

[rapid merlin]

Wait dont tell me you know this game..

[merry canyon]

Ofc i do

[rapid merlin]

Idk bro people I know dont know it

DAYUMMMM

[merry canyon]

I been gaming since i was a baby

From counterstrike to fifa everything in between

[rapid merlin]

You wouldnt believe me if I told you that when I played it at 15 I was like... Aight bet I wanna be this guy when I grow up

[merry canyon]

I wish watch dogs and splintercell had a baby

Shit would go hard

[rapid merlin]

And Im here with the darkest eyebags ever trynna study not even the 1%

[spice ermine]

yo teach me how to hack bro

[merry canyon]

So basically step 1

and after that you come to

[rapid merlin]

U want ethically or unethically?

[merry canyon]

but dont forget the

[spice ermine]

both

[merry canyon]

however,

moreover

[rapid merlin]

Which do you want more?

[spice ermine]

i wanna be a grey hat hacker

[merry canyon]

but step 5 is also

and thats how you do hacking

[rapid merlin]

More?

[spice ermine]

white hat hacker

tbh

[rapid merlin]

Aight bet

#start-here

[merry canyon]

I think jabba is deleting my words, i wrote a detailed guide on how to be a hacker

[knotty valve]

We don't support illegal activities™ so no one will teach you how to do anything illegal

[rapid merlin]

Jabba fell asleep

Wait bru I have an idea with your name

[spice ermine]

i was just trolling but if were being serious i would consider white hat

[merry canyon]

my name?

[merry canyon]

i knew it

[spice ermine]

cause there is no benefits to being a grey hat hacker

or black hat

[tight trout]

theyre all trollsssss

[merry canyon]

been in server since 2024 and wants to learn hacking

[rapid merlin]

Yee

[spice ermine]

seriously no benefits to being black hat

i dont understand what u get from it

[rapid merlin]

Oh there are a lot of benefits being a black hat...

Just short term

Until you are behind bars

[merry canyon]

Hahahahahahhahaha

That nameeee

[spice ermine]

yea

knowing this server

[merry canyon]

Well, illegal hacking has its own pros and cons

so doesnlegal hacking

why else would ppl do it then

[spice ermine]

I can guarantee there is some black hat hackers here

[tight trout]

black hat hacking never has benefits

[merry canyon]

Theres a reason why cops and robbers exist

robbers never have benefits either

but they exist

[dim spoke]

↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-gif-18751922

[spice ermine]

gta 5 cheat code ahh message

[dim spoke]

nope, waaay more iconic than that xD

[spice ermine]

fr

[spice ermine]

cause you're just running away from the law the whole time

[tight trout]

yeah, its not a question of if youll be caught its when

[rapid merlin]

Nah without robbers cops wouldnt exist and without money robbers wouldnt exist

[merry canyon]

Exactly

Without bad people good people dont exist

[tight trout]

cops would exist without robbers

[merry canyon]

Ofc, theres more to cops than just robbers

We got domestic violence, we got homocides

[tight trout]

cop would exist without them too

[dim spoke]

I mean murderers are a good reason too, IMO xD

[merry canyon]

To do what then exactly?

[rapid merlin]

Other way around

[knotty valve]

Cops exist because governments do

[tight trout]

nope

[merry canyon]

If there is no crime tf a cop gonna do?

[tight trout]

This ^

what ash saidf

[rapid merlin]

Yeah exactly

Wait..

[knotty valve]

Ensure the laws provided by the government are kept

[rapid merlin]

Did you mean that too mint?

[knotty valve]

Police are law enforcement

[merry canyon]

But they cant ensure it can they?

[tight trout]

dont wanna get too political

[merry canyon]

Hence why criminals

[loud orbit]

How so elaborate

[tight trout]

so imma go back to my streama lol

[knotty valve]

Criminals exist because laws exist

[merry canyon]

No this is not political

[spice ermine]

are gray hat hackers good people or bad?

[tight trout]

@knotty valve ?

[rapid merlin]

Nah bro and soldiers are military

[tight trout]

what i would say would be

[knotty valve]

Military is different

[spice ermine]

I heard they hack systems without permission but they dont do malicious harm

[merry canyon]

Lets dm?

[knotty valve]

They're national defence

[merry canyon]

permission consent

[rapid merlin]

And where do soldiers work at?

[knotty valve]

For the military

[merry canyon]

or we can do it later im sure you have better things to do

[knotty valve]

Militaries aren't directly govt

[rapid merlin]

You said it

[knotty valve]

Hence why PMCs exist

[uneven nexus]

the point they are getting is not every law is necessary moral but police officers required to uphold every law

[rapid merlin]

Yeah anyway

Be ethical dont be an asshole

That's it 💀

[merry canyon]

umm

[rapid merlin]

Btw rizzler in which room are you at rn?

In thm

[spice ermine]

why cant gray hat hackers be white hat hackers if gray hats arent bad?

[merry canyon]

linux fundamentals 2

wby?

[knotty valve]

Because they still commit crimes

[rapid merlin]

grey hats are bad but not as bad as black hats

[spice ermine]

ohh

[rapid merlin]

they dont harm for money but for their own benefit like they are gods

[tight trout]

look into trition/trisis

that couldve killed people

[spice ermine]

i see

[spice ermine]

I will check that out

[uneven nexus]

the best black hats are greyhats most of the people that are 'pure black hats' are probably skids

[loud orbit]

Guys ?😂im intrigued

[spice ermine]

that actually makes sense

[rapid merlin]

For example if I was a grey hat I would hack a wifi to get access to it. I didnt harm but its illegal

[spice ermine]

or pirating

or cracking softwares

[rapid merlin]

Yeah that's illegal too

[spice ermine]

thats gray hat activity?

or black hat

[rapid merlin]

Grey

[loud orbit]

True but laws enit if public privacy

[rapid merlin]

Ur not doing it for money

[spice ermine]

that makes sense

[loud orbit]

Grey hat

[rapid merlin]

Black is mostly for money and grey is like own entertainment

[loud orbit]

Your not doing has or good your like Batman

[rapid merlin]

Think of it like robbers vs kids having god complex inside a park with other kids

[spice ermine]

Black hat is also more malicious and evil

[upper knoll]

i think u are entirely misenformed

[loud orbit]

You can still get arrested for grey hat activities tho

[uneven nexus]

idk what you guys mean

[loud orbit]

Completely that

[loud orbit]

What u mean ?

[upper knoll]

grey hat is someone who goes into not entirely "illegal" activites but grey areas of the law this is often considered unethical but isnt nessicarily illegal

[royal gazelle]

if you want to be a black hat legally join the military and become an operator ezpz

[rapid merlin]

who me?

[upper knoll]

profit doesnt come into it at all

[spice ermine]

I see

So like borderline illegal activities?

[merry canyon]

!!!!!!

[upper knoll]

yes or unethical ones

something we dont stand for in this server

[uneven nexus]

isnt white hat = only does hacking ethically with consent

grey hat = does both legal and illegal activities usually secret criminal activities

black hat = only does hacking for illegal activities with no consent

[rapid merlin]

grey legal?

[knotty valve]

Espionage, electronic warfare, etc. are all stuff I wanted to learn during my time in the Navy

[uneven nexus]

the whole point of grey is they do both

[upper knoll]

grey often breaks the law but not always

as i said before grey areas think of it like that

[loud orbit]

Damnnn u was in the navy

[knotty valve]

Yeah, comms engineer

[spice ermine]

Nice

[rapid merlin]

No they still do illegal but not for money.. more like for their own things or for curiosity

[uneven nexus]

if someone is a security researcher but also sells exploits on the darkweb they would be considered a grey hat

[loud orbit]

Wow ,what u do now ? Work in cyber

[upper knoll]

black

[knotty valve]

My job was to build the networks and secure them

[rapid merlin]

Like imagine breaking into an abandoned house... no one gives a shit but its illegal.. bulglary

[knotty valve]

Jr. PT

[uneven nexus]

i mean like employed sec researcher for a company

[loud orbit]

Wait fr ??

[upper knoll]

yes black

[knotty valve]

Yes

[royal gazelle]

our threat intel guy at work was in sigint for the Navy for years, super cool stuff

[rapid merlin]

Anyway enough lacking gtg study

[upper knoll]

if u sell exploits on the dark web

[sullen kestrel]

What kind of exploits

[uneven nexus]

am i missing something then

[upper knoll]

its black hat

[loud orbit]

How long it take you ? And were you based

[uneven nexus]

because i could have sworn that is considered grey

[upper knoll]

no

[knotty valve]

I did a bit of sigint but mainly on the defensive side rather than offensive

[spice ermine]

so thatw ould be grey hat

but the black hat would be breaking into someones home that they are living in

[knotty valve]

Detecting live attacks was also fun too

[spice ermine]

while white hat would be protecting their home

[loud orbit]

Guys can we be honest tho and not act like everyone is a goody 2 shoes ,like nobody is a grey hat alot of the time

[knotty valve]

Then you have that one team trying to passively hit your encryptions

[loud orbit]

Hackers do use there skills I believe plenty of people in try hack me server are

[upper knoll]

can we not conduct illegal activites

[loud orbit]

If they wanna do somthing or are curious and can

[spice ermine]

thats still illegal though and u can get in trouble

[loud orbit]

Nobody is

[loud orbit]

Exactly

[upper knoll]

no people dont break the law in this server

i wouldnt suggest otherwise

[loud orbit]

They do tho

[knotty valve]

I used to do unethical stuff but I haven't done so for years

[loud orbit]

I’ve seen the talk so

[upper knoll]

not if they dont want to be banned

[knotty valve]

I got caught it was game over and I moved on in life

[spice ermine]

so you would consider yourself a ex grey hat and now a white hat?

[loud orbit]

Thank you for being honest which is what I’m trying to say

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @knotty valve (current: #68 - 139)

[knotty valve]

I would consider myself an idiot for thinking I could hide from who was after me

[loud orbit]

No way

[spice ermine]

Dang

[loud orbit]

You think it’s that easy to get caught tho ?

[spice ermine]

Thats good you learned

from your mistakes

[knotty valve]

It is

[loud orbit]

Bc if so they why do people styll get away so much

[compact fossil]

super easy to get caught

[loud orbit]

But I see people do so much illegal stuff and not get caught …..

Even on discord

[compact fossil]

and every day and year and months its getting easier and easier

[knotty valve]

Because there's never enough people to stop it

[spice ermine]

You know whats weird howcome doxbin and all these grey area websites still exist and accessible on the internet, why cant these websites be taken down

[loud orbit]

Exactly

[compact fossil]

its who u target

if they have the resources they can easily find u

[spice ermine]

Why cant google or any web service supporting it take it down

[loud orbit]

True true

[spice ermine]

thats something I dont understand

[compact fossil]

but if u are a lowly peasant

oh well

[tight trout]

not enough people to manage iit

[knotty valve]

They do, but like all of those sites someone else just hosts it elsewhere and takes over

[loud orbit]

Ahhh igu I mean like every day hacking into stuff and spying etc ,see so much of it and they get away

[spice ermine]

I see, would you think there would be any solution to it?

[loud orbit]

Cover there digital footprint

Or sometimes they don’t

[royal gazelle]

look into bulletproof hosting, they are pretty untouchable

[knotty valve]

Nope because they'll always exist

[spice ermine]

Thats insane how there can be bulletproof hosting wow

[knotty valve]

Until someone in those groups decided they had enough

[compact fossil]

depends on where they hack into

[royal gazelle]

because its profitable

[knotty valve]

And took down it

[loud orbit]

Like if I hack you right now like your snap chat etc

Hypothetically

Yk I see it so much

Sites etc

[knotty valve]

Bulletproof hosting only exists for so long

[spice ermine]

I wonder when will it be taken down

and cracked on by others

[loud orbit]

Steal stuff and sell it etc hack for money or sum sort of gain or thrill

[knotty valve]

Feds usually have the toolings and shit for it

[uneven nexus]

i dont think its that hard to deal with the hosting the issue is just getting the host country to investigate/enforce

[knotty valve]

Or the defence dept

[compact fossil]

yeah well im a lowly peasant with no capital (economic) or political value, so i dont have the resources to find u back (provided i am a not working cyber)

[royal gazelle]

BGP go brrrr

[spice ermine]

Cause its a huge privacy breach as well, cause lots of people can easily access data breaches for passwords, doxxing bins, etc. Lots of shitty things on the web, that can be touched on the surface web

[spice ermine]

They needa up their process and take downs on it tbh

[knotty valve]

They need more people

[uneven nexus]

you cant expect the fbi to enforce a server in russia

[knotty valve]

But no one wants to work for feds cause of stupid reasons

[spice ermine]

I see

[loud orbit]

Ohhhh is that the case with most people ?

[knotty valve]

They will seize it though

[uneven nexus]

yes then the new one is spun up

Lol

[knotty valve]

Not the first time feds raid or seize things

[loud orbit]

Are you a hacker to tho ?

[knotty valve]

Basically yeah

[clear jackal]

Takedowns usually involve warrants and other processes/procedures. They aren't fast

[knotty valve]

It's an arms race

[spice ermine]

Is it cause they are being monitored 24/7 and are afraid of the deep background checks?

[uneven nexus]

I wouldnt work for the feds either though tbh despite supporting them taking this stuff down

[loud orbit]

Even if your not working in cyber you could track Someone down with your skills though right

[dim spoke]

for the people that are deep into it: Would you recommend against running Kali directly on a dedicated PC nothing on it but that for pentesting? Threatwise

[uneven nexus]

aleast not fbi

[loud orbit]

Or im confused asfffff

[spice ermine]

Ah I see

that too

[compact fossil]

think of another analogy: In medieval times if u stole from the king, wouldnt you be caught? bc everyone would be looking for you. If you stole from a farmer that no one cares about, no one would care about your criminal activity

[knotty valve]

Generally yes, but I would setup a laptop just for kali

[uneven nexus]

using a vm has the benefit of snapshots

[loud orbit]

Ok I understand 😎

[dim spoke]

well I would do the same, just with my old tower-PC 😛

[loud orbit]

Which is why black hats get caught bc they target high profile targets

[dim spoke]

Just to have the benefit of the full power of the hardware for operations benefiting from it

[spice ermine]

though im ngl a Cyber Espionage Agent sounds like a sick job

if your working for the feds

[loud orbit]

What about covering your digital foot print yk when u hack into public stuff for gain

[dim spoke]

cause those limitations on VM's are getting on my nerves xD

[compact fossil]

you are never really covering everything

[loud orbit]

It’s like is it always police who track u down if it’s not serious in cyber people eyes

[knotty valve]

Hyper V and VMware run pretty close to the hardware performance

[loud orbit]

Facts

[uneven nexus]

i just use more cores on vmware + ram it works basically like host just no gpu

[loud orbit]

Bc of forensics igu

[dim spoke]

VMWare does not seem to use my dedicated GPU at all

[uneven nexus]

but i wouldnt do anything pgu intensives outside of host anyways

[knotty valve]

Did you pass it through?

[dim spoke]

I tried, but I did not see a way to select it

[compact fossil]

its a combination of factors that u probably as a mortal human are not taking into account

[knotty valve]

What GPU?

[royal gazelle]

it is until you get doxxed by your 15 year-old counterpart contracting for some APT

[spice ermine]

what is the best vpn you recommend in general for speed?

[knotty valve]

None cause they don't hide you

[spice ermine]

howcome

[dim spoke]

currently on my main rig its an RX7900 XT

[knotty valve]

Feds can still warrant for data collection

[knotty valve]

That's why

[dim spoke]

on the dedicated it would be an 2070

[knotty valve]

AMD don't have their kernel fully fitted for passthroughs yet

[spice ermine]

I heard some vpn servers like mullvad hide it and have a no log policy

[dim spoke]

Doesn't like AMD GPU's?

ah, I see

[knotty valve]

I have the same issue with my 7700XT

[tight trout]

mullvad?

[knotty valve]

Proton got slapped with gag clauses too

[spice ermine]

I remember mullvad is very strict on privacy

[tight trout]

thought they couldnt turn up anything though

[tight trout]

RAM-only servers

[knotty valve]

They're not allowed to say anything

[uneven nexus]

just dont do anything crazy illegal

and you probably are fine

[dim spoke]

so, on my dedicated with the RTX2070 I might have the possibility to use the "full potential" of the hardware even with an VM?

[uneven nexus]

i use mullvad

[merry canyon]

does kali virtual machines have a default username and password?