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i swear to fuck if there's another person like the one yesterday i'm going to automod myself
if you're in a pinch, dual booting or even USB livebooting can work for a homelab
it will suck, guaranteed, but it can work
cant suck more than customising grub
sometimes you just gotta embrace the suck, not everything you play on will be ideal lol
Or putting in LUKS
i won't lie, yesterday was kinda funny
I was here yesterday, whatโd i miss
unc
maybe I am autistic
2015 ahh joke
watch your mouth
lately my least favorite thing is dealing with remote desktop through browsers.
Small reminder: https://discord.gg/Fuu27a2f?event=1394608058985873458
what's this?
jabba saved my family from the house fire, what a chad
Jabba bought me a Porsche for my birthday, absolute legend.
i got off a single good response ๐
jabba loaned me 1000,000,000,00000000000,00,00 dollars for half my college debt ๐ฅน
Nah bro he saved my fish from drowning too ong
hey guess what
half college debt is the most realistic part of this message 
cya r00t
what

ack ack ack ack
Wsssp N
Man I wish burp suite wasn't so slow at brute forcing usernames
Use ffuz or Hydra or something else, the free version of burp is quite rate limited
Assuming the sitr can take it
Yeah I need to go back and make proper notes on the syntax of these tools
It's actually fucking me over trying to do CTFs and I just completely forget the syntax ๐ญ
Whilst that is true, I almost never read the man pages ๐
My personal favourite https://tldr.sh/
Simplified and community-driven man pages
makes things much easier
I'll get that bookmarked cheers
Uhh I don't think so
Just get some lofi hip hop beats on
Lofi damn
you seem experienced in that case
Uhhh I've never used either tbh
Just finished second year of computer science so I know what to put on to study
Ahhaahhahaha goodluckkk
Cheers
what
Degrees imo is a bunch of assignments and theories with very little handson
objdump -S program.exe software is now engineered
Hence why we all are here
Degree just backs you up with careers
โHey hes got a degreeโ
What just happened
I mean the only way to get hired is from degrees no?
Unless u wanna be a businessman
I mean I'm currently in a SWE internship I'm just doing cyber security as a past time for now
AND THAT'S what I wanna ask now
Since we are all in thm and htb.. can we get hired from there?
Purely from thm and htb you mean?
Yeah
Lets say, person A, has all the skills, and a degree. And person B has all the skills and no degree, both are equivalent, who do you think is more likely to het hired?
Like if we finish thm and htb and eventually get certifications and shit
Doesnt that make us certified ethical hackers?
It does
Lesgooo
I did every insane room
Certs back you up big time
Uhhh, you would still be at an objective disadvantage to people with degrees unfortunately
does that count
Well obviously
Exactly
Simply because it's that competitive rn
But its something
now i can hack better ty thm
you can do everything, but if a person similar to your skill levels but with certs or degree is more likely to get hired
How long have you been training?
17 years
lol
True, although I'd say making connections from within the field would be extremely valuable at the same time
just dont hack me pls
Hello gramps ๐
Kaeini
but im only 32
ive seen a LOT of ppl mention connections, how does it work exactly?
When did you start?
32-17
well you see when a mommy modem meets a daddy node they have a baby
15..?
and that's called a router
Ayo not that connection ๐คฃ
reeeeeee
Yee now Im rizzed up now ngl
Clumszller
pls dont hack me
Any path is recommended after Pre-Security path?
well you see when an insane room meets a 0day you get all done
Well, you just get involved in conferences and events (like CTFs) and just speak to the people organising them and getting to know them.
Might lead to nothing, might lead to you getting their LinkedIn but it also end up as a job opportunity through a referral to vouch for your skills
Bro defo sees grass as binary codes at this point
There should be a cyber101 i think
From what I've heard, cyber security is quite connection oriented in terms of actually breaking into the field and landing a job.
It depends on Economic, once the economic goes down, those employers would gonna consider the person without degrees is easier to control under the lower salary. I know it's a ridiculous theory but it did happen in my region
which OS u using
I believe you
Fair play, I still look at walkthroughs to learn from my mistakes on easy challenges
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Working in retail showed me that 90% of cvs get dumped in the bin until a shortage of staff member
do you accept the challenge
are u using windows pentesting OS ?
Brother ๐
@sturdy lark
Ill give it a try
na i just like .exe
For some reason I thought joining a dc server to learn ethical hacking is a good idea
Now Im intimidated by reading shit I never heard ๐
I did the same, ngl instead lf stidying im here
And thats the worst part too...
Maybe I'll delete dc again and start locking in again
chicken butt
Nah it's the medium articles for me ๐ญ๐ญ
Unironically chatgpt is my coach lmao..
Congratulations on your rankup!
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where can i download web3
Fr I need advice wtf do I do?
Abt?
In what aspect?
I am in the pre security shit and I finished all linux funementals and also what is networking
I feel like Im missing something
Me and you are just wasting time here
If we ended up locking in
questions will be less
lets lock in
im out
Eace
Peace
I'll do the same I just need to recalibrate
go for a short walk then come back, will help a lot.
Its midnight ๐
we need a role next to our names โpush him whenever you see this person slackingโ
Then just take a step away from your screen then
shoo go and study
I would suggest that you start the Cyber 101 path before specializing in whatever fancies you. This could be Blue team/Red Team/Security Engineer stuff. However, take as many notes as you can
So if yall see us noobs here yapoing shit send us back to studying
There you go
Do you know the difference between an IPv4 and IPv6 address btw?
Not judging just curious
I think IPv6 is more advanced and secure than IPv4 if I remember correctly
IPv6 was made in response to having less and less IPv4 addresses that can be used
And has more ips like series
Its jot capped
Not*
Its not about what fancies me its about me just getting started
IPv6 is still capped, just a far higher range than IPv4
Wouldn't necessarily say more secure.
But it is more advanced in the sense it is longer and stored as a hexadecimal string
Yeah.. kinda like that..
I would suggest putting some music or a video on and then just jumping into the thick of things

Oh boy if I put music while studying ๐๐ฅ
the hardest thing to do is to start, however, only you can remedy that.
Just get stuck in and don't be afraid of failing. You'll do it a lot learning cyber security
Its like trying to get in a new town without a map...
Its intimidating to even walk in
Like that Kris Kringle christmas movie said, "All it takes is one foot in front of other"
Then take it one day at a time
Small steps build up
Rome wasn't built in a day 
and all you can do is walk in. only you are keeping yourself back
simply the only barrier
I guess you're right
trust me it's hard, I got ADHD, I would know. sometimes you just have to force yourself.
Exactly, it's gonna take time to familiarise yourself with the theory and practical elements of it.
But it'll become second nature if you're consistent with it
i knew it! ๐
The thing is that I dont got adhd and I need STRUCTURE
Literally the map in front of me to know where to go next
I dont like mess
of course a chikcen would
It's like tetris sort of, you keep compiling and placing different layers and layers upon your foundation
This might potentially help then:
https://roadmap.sh/cyber-security
takes one to know one ๐
But if you're ever confused then there's definitely resources out there that can explain different things. This could be networking, or writeups
It's just a checklist you can tick off about certain cyber security skills
just keep going through pre-sec. if you feel extremely lost, feel free to study A+ for a bit to get that IT foundation down.
I think it was Clumsy that sent this article from HTB that said that for a beginner it's not frowned upon to look at a writeup
Rexx black how to do a writeup
just remember, whatever you do is forever what you have done.
Also works in the sense that once you get familiar with each of the pieces and how they're structured. You can start to do cool and fancy shit with them.
i.e. T-spins, 4 wides, etc.
Yeah that one
Bro I love you ๐
Literally life saver
You're welcome
I use this
i hate education
But based off what you showed me the roadmap is all about os and networking and shit not the thm roadmap
very experience red teamer need yall to dm me.. got a serious question
That's all still foundational theory that would be good to know for cyber sec
Yeah Im not complaining at all this is some good shit
and if you need the foundational IT stuff, A+ is where its at. Super easy too
- A Software has a vulnerability which is unknown to Software's Programmer (i.e. he has no-day knowledge) but known to hacker.
- Hacker uses it to hack the systems which have this software.
- The Day it comes into knowledge of vender, it is the zero-day vulnerability, the next day, it will be 1-day vulnerability and so on.
- The hacking of ...
I dont think I'll need this cuz Im a software engineering student but thanks tho man
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Bro wtf is this server way too supportive I love it
Gn man thanks for everything
No worries gl on your journey
Alright Im gonna leave the server and lock in too
I might join again if I need help
๐๐
software engineering isn't the same as IT, mind.
Better to have the knowledge than not, especially if your major is focused on software engineering and not Computer science.
I think he left
definitely something i had to come to terms with. Adding to a system is not the same as manipulating an existing system.
lotta overlap, sure, especially low level concepts
same here, kinda wish I went to school for IT, even though I do enjoy my compsci classes. but then I'd say the same thing but in reverse if I did lmao
How is everyone doing ?
Is this the official website of virtualbox? Everyhing changed since last timed I visited the website

yeah it is haha, it was weird because I remembered that everything looked old
i formatted my PC somedays ago and even the logo of it changed
yes
does anyone have FOR610 torent file
I wanna start learn reverse engineering I just finished my high school, I only have knowledge in C language data structures and I'm a full stack web developer I do also have some base knowledge in assembly
I'm just a bit confused of all of these resources on the internet I don't know where which shall I start out
What the heck is a FOR610?
so this is an advanced topic which we dont discuss in general
malware analysis isnt something for the beginners due to the higher level of entry to do it safely and correctly
sans course it looks like lmao
SANS RE course
that sounds like it'd be against their policies to share
the simple answer is we cant help u with malware analysis but for the sake of safety please create an enviroment that is truly secure before u do anything (IE a malware analysis vm)
็งไฟกๆ 
That's stealing, though.
english only
please
its in the rules!
oh I'm sorry for that
then what about some free resources or a guide that can help me, send it private pls
again we cant help u with advanced topics
we can not help you
I used this cool site to instantly find information I want.
It's free too, actually.
-# inb4 thm plug
I was all "ayo, gimme da latest on da malwares" and it sent links to places with da malwares.
In retrospect, I shouldn't have clicked anything but that's beyond the scope.
where can I get some help though, I'm just so confused of the tons of resources I got
what site ?
I'm not sure, I'm interested too
what site dude
where is the advanced topic channel though
you have to reach the same level as me on thm
and be verified in the discord server
you see any benefit from it?
any good vpns i can download on my mac for free?
okay see you in 5500 points
glgl
its not the most active sometimes but if u need help with it put it in there people will get to u and u can discuss more
for sure
you'll get way more out of a paid vpn tbh
any recommendations?
mullvadVPN, protonVPN
shesh
@onyx flame
thank youb dude
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ello
Hello Chat
is this is a good roadmap https://github.com/CyberSecurityUP/Awesome-Malware-and-Reverse-Engineering
ill repeat myself this topic is out of scope of general please stop bringing it up. if you want to discuss it further i recommend improving your knowledge on thm and verifying in the discord so u can
Ahh okay
Please keep malware research in #exploit-and-mal-studies channel ๐
I can't access it
if u read this above link it will explain what ive been saying
and why u cant currently
okay I'm gonna get the OSCP
gl
hi everyone
@merry canyon please don't dm or send friend request without asking #rules i appreciate the concern but those are private IP addresses, really no harm
@sour wind please don't dm or send friend requests without asking #rules
Hello! 
Oh fair enough, i wanted to inform in case if those are sensitive information you perhaps mightve forgot to sensor
thanks for the concern lol, no hard feelings 
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Nah all g, and i dont think i sent a fr btw
it's just a copy paste template lmao, i get like 5-6 dms/friend requests a day lol
might as well put it at the top of your bio at this point
Hello Zombie! 
nyahallo dark-kun :3
How're you?
That's good :3
I've never got this servers hatred of DM's, just ignore them
i did that with the boyfriend thing.....and then yesterday happened
hi everyone
hola
hi
hello
great!
not good
what's up? if you're okay with sharing of course
Going great. Bout to run an nmap on this mint device with that 192.168.1.72 IP leak 
a quack quack here and a quack quack there, youโll be fine
๐ญ
have fun with nothing showing up lol
Jokes on you I'll static a printer to it

is anyone into music, all genres
music is a temptation by the devil to stray you away from gaining more THM points and ranking up
currently enjoying j-pop and metal rn
I am a vampire, dw the devil cant stake me
metal goes hard
what is your most recent repeat in both
SICK Yanderu EP (SICK ใใใงใEP) is a Synth V metal E.P by the producer Yuyoyuppe (ใใใใฃใบ).
He is back with more heavier stuff than ever. SICK remind me of his earliest albums back in 2009-2011.
Natsuki Karin (Synth V) is used in all the songs.
It was only available as a download card at the event "VOCALOCK MANIA".
Tracklist :
1)...
็ต่บซๅใงๅใ่ฆๆใ
ใใผใซใซ๏ผๅ้ณใใฏ
ไฝ่ฉใไฝๆฒใ็ทจๆฒ๏ผ40mP๏ผ@40mP๏ผ
ๅ็ปใใคใฉในใ๏ผใใพ๏ผ@tamak0๏ผ
ใใขใ๏ผไบๅๅกG๏ผ@ZimuinG๏ผ
ใใผใน๏ผmao๏ผ@mao_alpaca_love๏ผ
ใฎใฟใผ(EG & AG)๏ผ[TEST]๏ผ@hiroki_test๏ผ
ใใฉใ ใใใผใซใใทใงใณ๏ผใทใงใใณ๏ผ@Shobon_mint๏ผ
ใจใณใธใ...
https://open.spotify.com/track/28YrDilSUSp1bE7KomL1Qx?si=5kjQnyJSRDeWEktdW-SSxQ music for the real Chad
Not what i expected
That's surprising, that's the kind of music I expect most people who frequent this disc listen to
TOKYOPILL if you feelin real wild
i just became frequent hence why i didnt expect
for example chad playlist
did you expect that?
i am but not here
Chad's gonna falling asleep in holy prayer, 10 hours later Chad'll gonna fight like a true knight
I wish chad a prosperous journey
It's not surprising. I'd be more surprised if someone came in here saying they listen to "normie" music
Normie?
huh
Training to develop hacking skills
Visit TryHackMeโs website there will be roadmaps, and a career quiz, have a look, see what interests you and is aligned with where in life you currently are
there are both premiun and free roadmaps
Hot take: Irish Breakfast (the tea) is better than English Breakfast
If you want to make the most out of THM, yes
But I'd recommend trying the free paths and rooms first before investing money into it
^
Thank you all
Barry's tea โค๏ธ
i decided to pay for it before even trying it ๐ (I saved 25$, it was the summer sale) I knew what I was doing though
isnt irish tea with alcohol
irish breakfast could be good but nicaraguan dinner (Fritanga, carne asada) is better
Can't go wrong with that
Irish forever ๐ฉถ
I am 100% certain irish tea has whiskey in it
IRELAND FOREVER โค๏ธ ๐ฎ๐ช
Or atleast what i had ages ago
Your wrong
That's irish coffee...
caife Gaelach
ive never drunk coffee with alcohol, should i?
Pour the coffee into a preheated glass, add whiskey and sugar, and stir until dissolved. Pour cream slowly to form a distinct layer.
Then drink it through the cream
that's how an irish coffee is made
also make sure you use irish whiskey
im not gonna find irish whiskey in my country
What country are you in?
nicaragua
Granada has an Irish pub
I want to do rooms but busy with uni and work

is it?
Caife is the same in both languages
Howdy everyone
Pretty sure
caife is Irish
I could be wrong, there's a lot of crossover words
Given they're both Gaelic languages
there goes my sobriety
Lmao
Nooooo
RIP
American "Irish" pubs use Scottish Whisky
gaelach is right, it's an adjective
Lmao
Fairo
I need to study Irish more lmao
thanks google
Lmao
And before you ask, I checked it in the irish dictionary too
Yeah it does
Probably depends on context
I barely remember english half the time
Bรฉarla*
Yeah that one 
Hello Ashlynn! 

Heya!
How're you?
I remember the chorus
Tired
I don't even remember the Australian anthem and I lived here for a good 14ish years
Is it 14?
How old am I again
"interesting" things happened at work i suppose?
Advance Australia Fair
Never heard of it 
@silver sky Hey!!! How are you? Long time no see ๐
It's Aussies national anthem
It's crap
Outkast's 'Hey Ya' reworked into the unofficial national anthem of 'Straya' (a.k.a Australia). More videos at www.twisterandjumanji.com
LYRICS:
My country don't share no borders
'Cos of all the waters that surround our land
Thank god for our resources
'Cos they are the sources of our wealthy land
Don't try to find the capital
Or fight the anim...
the spammed pwnagotchi spawned
RIP
Ah
That should be the national anthem of australia ๐
Wait what's the other variation of conas atรก tรบ?
Which reminds me, I need to go back to the High Commission
why dis pwnagotchi spammed?
I swear there was another variation
Still arguing with the aussie government about citizenship 
LOL
thats easy
It's not 
Australia is extremely strict
you wanna try and tell them that my mother surrendered her citizenship after I was born?
youโre*
We don't give out citizenships like candy
Oof
I'm a dual citizen
I'm trying to get my quadruple citizenship 
I refuse to surrender my Irish citizenship
You need to be born outside Australia and have at least one parent who was an Australian citizen at the time of your birth
Yet they are trying to argue that
Was your birth certificate registered after her surrender?
Was never registered. It doesn't state that as a requirement to be registered
Tell me about it 
I've gotta arrange a meeting
I might have to do a test and shit
But I identify as Irish Australian anyway 
Trust me wideboy
It's not guaranteed but it helps
Well I've given them my mum's citizenship paperwork
If there's no registered birth or evidence of delivery before surrender that might be the issue
๐ ๐
Yeah my mums birth was registered in Oz as she was born on one of the pom ships
Both my parents had an Aus citizenship at my birth
Ew smh
What
Saying ew
It's only valid
is kinda bad
Just because my grandparents were poms
Irish Poms too 
Only if they don't denounce the pom side
Otherwise, I'm sorry brothers and sisters, but you're ew too
Well, tbf they went there for a better life than waiting tables in London after they left Ireland 
if we think a little. even the half of US are poms
But ew poms
And my grandfather did a lot for Australia, he did long haul trucking all his life
What are Poms?
British
Then came out of retirement in COVID to help move stuff around
Nice
and then he got diagnosed with dementia and they took his licence lmao
I didn't knew until i googled it. it's used by aus ppl to mention the british apparently
Oof
Yep
Even Brits call themselves poms
Then he died in a state care home last year
what does it have to do with pomegranate?
then they took all my inheritence to pay for the care
: D
It doesn't
Iirc it's short for pompous
You guys recommend any good ai's that are good for making websites? Wix is way too involved imo
google said it. maybe google is stupid
None
Claude
^
What if i use wix
what is wix
Wix uses static generated HTML and JS
Wix is shit
Website builder
They have templates they use
Yeah I seen that
ah lol
Whats the issue with wix?
duh
Just shit thrown together HTML and JS
Low quality ๐คท
The only food thing is CSS
piss poor SEO
cuz i was not very ethical to discord
only in looks
rip the api
But if your website is mostly front end and not back end its fine
i regret not asking the discor api nicely
My website is a portfolio
:(
lmao why
My username is SEO unfriendly
I dont understand why I would need a back end, and also would need security
Imagine getting shadow banned by Discord
Fr lmao
vencordia user
At least discord banned an alt of mine cause I forgot to report my account in a security report lmao
It got recovered thankfully
That was fun
yh it's your choice tho
Too much labor making it yourself, you can just easily generate it with wix.
I wouldn't use AI for front end
Discord was as much use as a chocolate teapot when I was getting harassed by russian bots
If its a portfolio
OwO
Don't use AI for a portfolio
go use my plugin
ig im using wix
who?
it so good
what is it?
As an employer, anything AI for jobs gets thrown in the bin
Yep same
We have legit use cases for AI and it's big data analysis
Where we control the dataset and training
And we can manually validate it anyway
We just speed up the process with regression and forests
I had to turn on that "ILoveSpam" plugin to see messages ๐
What if you need to use ai or wix for building a business website for booking? I dont got any experience with html and little js experience. I dont wanna spend lots of time learning cause its not my passion, but at the same time I dont wanna spend money on someone to build it for me whos prob gonna use ai or wix anyways
stupid vencord
what's the plugin
dunno bout it
You think AI will ever take over cloud computing anytime soon?
not so soon
I make websites, but I'm not gonna promote myself here and I'm not for hire because I've got too many clients on the go
ah yh i just enabled it
hug
No but now you made me have a concern, like is wix a very unsecure way of building a business website? Is it worth learning or spending money just to build a business website?
: D
Wix is okay, it's just garbage imo
There's nothing unsecure about it
Wdym?
in what way is it garbage?
Cloud computing is mass distribution of servers
you made it?
How is AI going to take over physical hardware
the role of being a cloud architect
i made like.. 7 plugins
cool :0
so you can build castles in the sky ๐
Wix hides complexities, so google doesn't see all the content of your site. Wix also doesn't let you move your site to another provider easily. The pages are excessively big, so it's slow to load.
You're not wrong, but tbh I know wix isnt built for developers or projects, but for something simple like a booking site its fine. Im just trying to get it up fast and test the idea, if it takes off I can always move on to something scalable later
Just export everything and self host
Personally I'd recommend Jekyll for a portfolio
There's a bunch of tutorials online and on their repos and such
My portfolio I made myself with a lot of debugging
There is one bug atm I haven't fixed in prod that causes my markdown to clash with latex

What
I'm asking this genuinely, but why would you use Jekyll over just self hosting your own static site? Like what benefit is there to it when Jekyll requires HTML and CSS anyways?
You can self host Jekyll
"my markdown to clash with latex"

This thing:
LaTeX โ A document preparation system
Self host as in on your own machine or do you mean not through a provider like hostgator?
Yeah the markdown render I use doesn't support latex without extensions
Yes you can selfhost Jekyll
I don't recommend self hosting on your own network
Cause in the event of a cyber attack, for whatever reason, it'll topple your network or give access to your network too
Okay so I don't see the point in Jekyll personally. I was curious if there was something I didn't know, but I would just stick to Nginx and AWS or a VPS in that case
What would you suggest to do then?
VPS
Because Jekyll is a tool to build websites
Not host them
dayum
You're confusing hosting services with frameworks
It was just the way it was worded. I'm following now. I'd just have to read the docs to understand why I'd want to use it over what I do now.
I only recommend Jekyll because it's easier to setup and build a website and you can host it anywhere
As opposed to writing everything yourself, it's less prone to mistakes in the render, JS code, webserver it spawns, etc.
Oh yeah, that was kinda the feeling I got from what you were saying. My guess is it is an easy to use framework for creating websites if you don't want to do all the work manually
Okay yeah I got it
I went through the pain of doing everything manually, but I was also put of work and had nothing better to do lmao
My website is built in a weird way
There's one "security" issue in it but it requires you to have access to the server already to exploit it
That I know of
I mean generally it's not significantly hard
Portfolios tend to be riddled with XSS issues or something of the likes
It's not that it's hard. It's more so what benefit would you get out of it?
Defamation usually
Using their site to transmit malwares, etc
It's very much "what's the capability of the issues when abused?" and what the attacker's motives are
That's why I said generational hater. There's no real gain aside from tanking someone's reputation
(Generally)
All depends on the motive it can be anywhere from causing financial loss, to distribution of malware, to infotheft

True
If you find it difficult move to another room or read the content material
this already more time i will try not working this type answer
Skill issue
Just move to a different room or read through the content material
It tells you what you're looking for and how to find it
Giving answers to rooms or challenges is against the rules
rightuu ok
Hi bee
Hello Bee! 
GOOD MORNING ISEKAI
Good Morning : D
are we :3ing today?
what is :3ing?
so many 0xDs in chat today
eventually the world will be :3

:0
cant believe i have 0 points
on the thm website
rip me
im still top 1% though
yippie
nvm O_O
im so fly fellas call me the UFO
you mean this: ๐ชฐ fly?
Were you here before they had ranks or something? And you were just grandfathered in?
no i used to be 0xD
they always had a rank system

i used to work for thm and had the employee rank, when i quit they just reset my points to get rid of the rank i guess lol
Ah I see
hell nawh
install the japanese font pack :v
That's funny
good morning guys
Yay home from work, itโs my Friday
Hello Mandy! 
Hellooooooo
it is blured or normal view
oh yh i will but i mean, the time
is it custom rpc
it better be
Rate my setup, jk lol temporary
halloooo
cool setup
good choise for mousepad
i literally have a book as my mousepad rn
Are you left handed?
I just noticed the mouse being on the left
Nvm, it's probably put there for a reason prolly
cool but id unplug that if i was there
No I just put it there forgot why
Hey you!!!! It has been very very long. How you been
Got a new tattoo appt next week so pretty excited
is it the alice in wonderland one?
Yea
oooh im excited to see the resultttt
Sameeee
Ooooooooo nice nice I want more but Iโm broke and have priorities unfortunately
how much is the tattoo
how big is the tattoo and what is it
Half my thigh and it's an Alice in Wonderland piece
You make a lot of money to afforrd a tatto like that?
i bought myself a 900$ pc two days ago and I barely have any money now
I budget for my tattoos
I've had 4 done this year so far
This one will make my fifth
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That's nice as long as you don't look like mikki mase or someone like that
he has so many tattoos
face tats are good job starters right
i just think it would look bad when you get older if you don't get them removed
How many tattoos are piercings someone has doesn't make them good or bad lol
Eh who cares?
I dont
i dont think anyone really cares
yeah i dont think hes bad i just dont like the look
ands thats your opinion
That's your opinion lol
anyways should i invite my friends for poker night sometime next week
i like them to I'm not judging
People can like me or hate me, that's a them issue
I got my neck tattooed so what? That's for me to care about
okay don't take it the wrong way i dont hate you because of it
People tend to be very conservative around tattoos so yeah
Do it embrace the chaos
didn't lil xan get his ex on his face lol
got it
not to brag btw but i played poker with a billionaires son ONE time
Did you win?
When I was in college, I was friends with some frat boys that got violently sick in the car of the founder of Crocs.
LOL
Reminds me of how my parents met
Lmao
no
My parents went to a mutual friend's party and my moment puked on my dad's shoes
Best story ever
Their response to projectile vomiting with the windows down, do the son of the founder who was driving: "why are you mad, your dad can just buy you a new one"
Fr
He can tho
He rich
Yo guys. Question: does an IT Help Desk position require certs?
Damn it lol
It depends on what the help desk is doing.
Yeah
i've had two and i dont have any certs
That helps
Really is dependant tbh
If it's Red Hat Support, then yes, very much.
If it's on-site IT support for employees, very probably not.
Hello folks! If you're into AI, threat detection, automation, or just want to understand how security is evolving this could be a valuable session. No fluff, just solid insights.
You can react here. with anything ๐๐ป

A lot of companies will prefer a certificate for help desk but it isn't always mandatory
@cloud quiver are you interested?
I have a bachelorโs degree. I think that would be enough.
Iโm also constructing an archive
Bachelors in what, though
Cyber Operations
That's a degree?
Absolutely
I thought that was a major
I'm thinking the same thing
Isn't a major a part of a degree?
Major area of study
Usually with a master's in X majoring in Y
i played poker with gus antos son dean antos
Iโm getting confused.
My Major was CompSci, and I have a BSc in Computer Science
It's on the diploma, @knotty valve
Oh we do it differently here in aus
Lmao
It would be a Master's in Cybersecurity Major in (whatever field)
Bachelors don't have majors here
You can do an honours
Fun fact: My degree granting institution is a seminary school, and the engineering college I actually went to cannot issue degrees as part of the school without amending the state constitution
Which is a glorified masters
What was the question again? Iโm missing a whole bunch of context.
What are the courses you took for your Bachelors in CyberOps
Like the required and optional electives for your major area of study
All sorts of things. Malware Analysis, intro to cybersecurity, intro to cyber operations, machine learningโฆ basically anything electronic.
Iโm hoping that answers.

sort of
Did you take anything like log analysis, forensics, programming, etc
I did take Digital Forensics
OS basics? Active Directory?
Programmingโฆ kinda.
THM helped with this.
Sup ashlynn
bru ive been killing babies in my game for like an hour
I would make the claim that cybersecurity is not the same as cyberops
This our equivalent
https://www.rmit.edu.au/study-with-us/levels-of-study/undergraduate-study/bachelor-degrees/bachelor-of-cyber-security-bp355
Develop expansive skills in information technology and cyber security.
Why did they separate the wording?
Incident handling and response?
We do cyberops, signals intel, forensics, pen testing, etc. in one big degree
Just what the university decided on
Sup
that's not really the same - I would expect more familiarity and competency from a university/college course on the subject because the homework and testing. THM is great for some things, but actual competency from people is..... variable.
University ain't gonna teach you shit
Sigh. Still waiting for the day where people realize โcyberโ is a prefix.
Iirc AD tends to be an elective outside of introduction to networking
They know, it's just how they chose to name the degree
Lol
^This. AD is also extremely practical, and the typical coursework is great on RBAC, DAC, MAC theory but light on how you actually do it.
guys, is any of u in IT field like fr, I wanted to ask a question
What's the question
I just love miscommunication. You? 
U have a degree in cybersecurity
You should just ask your question. Asking to ask is one of the most frustrating things you'll encounter at work.
Associate Degree in Applied Computing โ Cybersecurity and I'm studying my bachelor's in cybersec
Wanted to know the stress level of it field like which is best, particularly cybersecurity related fields
I have the CCNA and CCNP Enterprise as well
Stress level? Depends on the job usually
It can be low stress or high stress
Depends on the person as well
Get your foot in the door somewhere, work for 3-5 years, transfer to security.
Or get a degree and go straight into it.
depends on the company tbh, i've had the same job at two different places and its been entirely different experiences
My degree is called computer science, that's all ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ, no fancy names
Computer Science is a separate degree here
yeah, the school im going to has separate comp sci and cybersec programs
Cybersec is still compsci, but it's different enough to where it's not 1:1
Compsci I found to be very broad with computing
Oohhh understood
If you have a degree in CompSci and your university didn't teach you anything, you should go to a different university.
My degrees have been extremely helpful in all of my IT jobs, whether it's doing SOC work, incident investigations, pentesting, compliance, sysadmin, or even just setting up my outlook filters. (For real, discrete math is a godsend when you get 500+ emails per day)
^
I've changed unis before cause one absolutely sucked
I've also had full on arguments with lecturers over networking
Not just compsci. A good cyber/info sec program will also have a lot more non-technical courses because half the job in security is talking to non-technical stakeholders
So glad I don't need to take project management classes again ๐คฃ
I got those under RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning)
yeah, that shit is miserable. Ultimately it's all waterfall anyway.
Gannt charts that stretch for miles, and thousands of post-it notes for a kanban
Ashlynn, youโre correct, i recently met someone who got sponsored to be here for project management
Would you like documents with your documents 
Yes. I want documents about my documents that I documents.
Or a 20 page document of requirements
Weaponize all the tickets, until management stops being stupid.
i have computer science but UG so, I don't really have security related stuff, just coding and project management stuff, so.. can't just enter yet right..,
I strongly recommend you work in IT for at least 2 years before you make the jump to security. The deeper you understand a single domain, the more valuable you can be from the security side.
If your company has a security department, ask if you can shadow someone and see if the fit is actually right for you.
Kinda what I did ig
I worked initially for the Navy so security was a heavy part of my job and I enjoyed it a lot
There are definitely security roles in GRC and in the SOC that make me very, very deeply unhappy. There are other tasks and roles that I enjoy a lot and that I am extremely competent in
Does internships in security related fields help me get a job
So I went from network engineering and architecture to security engineering pretty easily
Now I'm slowly transitioning to pen testing
It's a spectrum, but all the sec jobs that I've enjoyed, I have knowledge from non-security background stuff that has been invaluable
red team and pentest are not quite the same
Heiii that's where I'm trying to go after college (network engineering) before doing anything cyber. Any tips?
shadowing a red team is going to be.... an experience, assuming your org has an actual red team and isn't just calling pentest red team
See what it's like before I decide if Red Team is right for me
Yea we got a proper red team
99% of what orgs call red team is just aggresively marketed pentest
I was hired as a jr. pen tester
good on you
They've got me doing some neat stuff and I'm enjoying it a lot
gm everyone ๐
i have a couple of junior pentesters on my team, one of them did a thing i explicitly said not to.... that junior gets to do some deeply boring work to be competent in that deficient area
Mainly physical security rn given its my first month there ๐คฃ
physical security pentest can be fun

