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Already shot a report
or the traffic light protocol
Classified is considered private, but that doesn't mean all millions of people on earth don't know about it.
whats this about
TLP 
alr, got it π
Use your brain.
This is so stupid
imma go stand in the rain for 5 minutes, sounds like it's more productive than this chat
Dude can't even answer a well known forensics process in criminal forensics and thinks they know how intelligence agencies work π€£
lmao
Until warrants happen
Intelligence is a whole science that is raised in secrecy and obscurity, there is a lot of disinformation spread for obvious reasons, of course there is nothing that is common knowledge about technology and methods, to believe anything else or that you as a small player should have any input into it is just completely stupid and naive.
100%
You do know what a warrant is, yeah?
In this case hes talking about moving to diff country
extradition?
if you do something in USA and move to country like Russia or Dubai
Something that would raise massive red flags
Imagine thinking that warrants are everything in a world where rules don't have to be followed.
The dumbest thing you can do as a criminal is flee a country
ofc you would not move to one which has connections or any good relationship in this hypothetical situation
You're right, they could just seize you and everything you have and use the $20 wrench
read
I already told you. goverment can't get what they can't access.
I mean, you can't easily get a citizenship, and countries sometimes still extradite the citizens of said country
with or without warrants.
even without a relationship
You can buy your way in
sadly
Believe me, they can and absolutely will
you got 30 mil?
You underestimate the lengths a federal agency will go to
not me ofc, but in this hypothetical situation someone would have made a shit ton of money with questionable methods
You act like a criminal can't have the same lengths.
They can find a way to hide
They have no issues on just liquidating entire organisations for failure to comply to demands
Yes, we have things like Interpol, and if someone has their eyes on you, it's tough. Even if the island you're on has an extradition agreement, they can take you to a country they have an agreement with or sentence you in the country where you are, international laws and etc.
Too bad for them.
And they're not above a $20 wrench
People can build their own infrastructure you know right?
been yapping here for ages
you haven't heard of vault 7?
That can be compromised and seen, and the amount of money to do it is VERY noticeable and would again raise flags
I have and soooo??
they have used those tools to get access to things they "couldn't get"
Raising flags is irrelevant if data can't be accessed.
hahahaha.
If the feds can't get access to it, you can rest assured that military intelligence will tear you down in a day
Oh I do, I know exactly how it all works, studied it and everything π€£
Been dumb enough to think I can hide from them too
Thank you for the conversation.
what about Anom 2?
Naiveness is the death of everything
they where "secure" but government still got access
do I grabb
or should I talk about how I compromised a secure network from criminals too?
vanilla latte
Name literally any hacker group and I can assure you at least one federal agency knows half of the team by name and location
Check out the documentary "Cyber ββBunker in Germany" where the entire Derknets shops and pages were hacked, they thought it was impossible for the police to get in or shut down the bunker, but that's exactly what happened.
took me an hour to find all people behind the phone system that was made for criminals
we are talking full address and everything
Yes, the hard part is collect evidence..
LOL
If they know who you are and what group you're involved in, they already have all the evidence they need to do an arrest
unless you're in certain countries
It's supposed to be "private" but there's ways to view the entire thing
Switzerland go brrrrr
Russia goes brrrrrr
Another difficulty is that the crimes often take place in several different countries where many actors don't care about anything other than money, and that some countries have different laws, so some things are not considered a crime.
Maia Crimea is still safe despite the numerous accused cyber crimes
Yes, and is not so hard, you can do it by yourself
Oh yeah, I've done it plenty of times lmao
Me2
Bear is friendly as long as you don't steal anything from his honeypot
The stupid criminals really boosted your confidence.
Was NotPetya friendly? 
Was ILOVEU friendly?
I love the origin story of ILOVEU
It was created as part of a uni thing
And it accidentally got out of containment π€£
As I wrote earlier, CERT in my country called me yesterday and said that they have now involved Interpol in a case where I ran on a major coast that is used for bad things, possibly even state-funded.
I would expect that a person studying cybersecurity or whatever would know that it takes one to break one. To think that an Intel agency has techniques that no one knows about, is insanity.
It's not insanity when intelligence agencies work by keeping everything close to the chest
My guy never heard about EternalBlue
No one knew that existed until it got leaked
Literally no one
same with vault 7
Wannacry and NotPetya would have never happened if it was not for the NSA 
until wikileaks
You can't confirm this.
No one knew of Care Bear or DarkWall either
Actually, to this day, very few people know either of these malwares
They have both techniques that are not known, but above all they possess enormous resources and powers.
Or why they were created
that it was only x amount of people who should know about the project
The fact the NSA shit themselves when it got leaked
I think that's a very good indicator
So they state specifically that all millions of people with 100% certainty knew nothing about the project and they have evidence that those people didn't?
Not possible.
Berserk Bear is my favourite name for a APT
NDA doesn't matter when things can be broken.

In this case NSA got hacked
No employee leaked it
It was leaked in the hack
So the NDA and NTKL was never broken
Your arguments don't help you much to be honest.
You're making saying that very much possible things, are apparently not possible.
You're literally just yapping about something you don't understand in the slightest
Please don't discuss illegal activities
And have had multiple people give you examples on how you're wrong
I can assure you I know more about it than you do.
Alright.
I'm still waiting on how criminal forensics is performed then
please give us concrete proof that you know what you're talking about Dot
Until now all we have done is give you proof that you're wrong, you have not given us any proof what so ever
so until then, you're factually wrong
There are no systems that are 100% secure, unless you pull the wires and lower the machine into the sea, for example... but some systems are much more difficult to access and you often need insider information and access...
If you can't provide an actual response to my question then it's safe to assume you don't understand forensics in the minimal
Since criminal forensics is actually a lot simpler than cyber forensics
There's a certain term for that sort of fallacy but long story short, your logic is flawed.
π 
This kid π€£
Yes, true. In digital forensics it is another thing..
What is the main argument I do not even understand 
Not with those pesky navy seals floating around
Hello pengu
All of you are funny!
well I go by the wrong unless proven right concept, so please prove that you're right 
They couldn't even tell me how the most basic forensics is done: crime scene forensics for murder
Especially when, unlike digital forensics, all the evidence is right in front of you
DNA and all
yeah, oh well time to go stand in the rain
First: Find a Victim, if you don't have one, stab random passerby and now u have victim to perform forensic on 
funny, when you wanted concrete answers/proof it was time to quit and eat cereal..
Ikr
When I've been questioned on topics I talked about, I've always supplied evidence to back my claims
Of course, you have to be able to back up your posts.,Otherwise we can sit here and say whatever we want.
Now time to boot up workstation
I'm waiting for my friend so I can go do rock climbing
Nice.. outside this time?
Too cold for outside
Ok..
Today is Sweden's National Day, it is about 17 degrees Celsius
12Β°C here
And windy af
And you are in AUAS
So it's not exactly safe to do outdoors
Aua
Didn't we have a DM about this?
Hey @knotty pendant , what did we said about unrelated / inappropriate GIFs ?
@knotty pendant I'd appreciate an answer, so this isn't a delete it now, and post more later.
Yes
π Unmuted julle0haxr_34040
Perhaps we should not be discussing that sort of material in the server.
You're right. My mistake!
Hey. welcome!
And English too.
I know... Apparently I haven't fully woken up yet...
why does my servers keep alarming that they doesn't get full power π¦
π Unmuted ray_is_nub
Maybe a sensor fault? If they really don't have too little power...
I mean, it has 2 PSU's connected
might be because they are all in one line
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Keep up the good work.
Good job.. Is is a great start, but it is the first in the league and you can get 1st easily, but is harder at like "sapire" to stay at top. Even if you are number one right now, it can be hard to get to the top.. Don't think too much about rank and leagues, it's just a fun thing and a tool to measure your success, focus on learning... Anyone can get number one in all leagues, just by solving all the machines (with or without writeup) ...
Indeed.
Do you have external meters that measure the power?
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@red nacelle Can I help you?
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It's just the APT name, not what the group calls themselves... but it sure is cute with bears etc.
I am aware
Are you going to participate in the bios ctf? My team is participating, but unfortunately I have other things to do when it is..
Okay.. Good. not everyone gets it π
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I was thinking about your server tag for a while.. but now I see that it was a guild π but you'll get there, if you're in a team, just go for it, even if you don't take all the flags, it's a good opportunity to learn things, the others in your team probably have knowledge to share..
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I don't have a team.
Are you just starting out with THM? Do you have previous experience in security/pentesting?
Join one or create one π
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Okay, but run the rooms here and walk along the paths, one path at a time and work your way up and you'll have fun and learn a lot!
Mornin
Morning.. How are you today?
Why is my room so bloody cold π
Im okay wbu?
Ohh.. I need COFFEE NOW!
Not when it's 12Β°C
And you live in the state I do
And your house has next to no insulation
Strange, you live in a country where the sun is hotter than the desert but you're still cold...:D I live where polar bears walk on the street but here it's almost too hot:D
We both get arctic drafts during winter π€£
I wonder how long it would take to walk from my state to the top of Australia
hi guys
@knotty valve Have you been to that rock called "Arich Rock" or whatever it's called? My dad always talked about it when I was little, "it's a big rock in the middle of nowhere... blah blah blah" .. Can you climb it?
An entire month
hello
26 days and 3 hrs
In Australia?
yes.. in Allice springs i think the name is
Pretty sure you're not allowed to climb Ularu now lmao
nope, only the rack power module
that's a long time
Indeed
whats going on? guys,
Okay.. and there are sensors/meters on several servers that say the same thing? Maybe it's a voltage drop in the power grid itself? I'm pretty bad at that part, unfortunately..
just cool.. and you?
General was really on one this morning.
So entertaining especially while eating some breakfast
eveything fine i have a question for you!
Okay..Go ahead!
how would you peneterate in website if you have only the domain and the website doesn't have anything like login sign-up it just showcase something
?
can anyone suggest to me an course beginner for more informations in this Ethical hacking field, and thanks
Review code, enumerate ports, fuzz directories, files, etc. There are a lot of other things than just login pages. There could be XSS/SQLi vulnerabilities or uploads that allow files, etc., maybe IDORs or other things. You think it's all about logging into a page, but that's far from the only vulnerability a page can have.
Remote Code Execution on the server is an insane one to find
i check no xss sql vuln is there no upload file feature
yes, of course is RCE a really nice find..
What are you doing?
i am enumurating my own site
I gotta actually do that next week
is there a room or ctf here at THM?
Where is the website hosted?
whats this for? Also u could check dirs or maybe .git or config files? fuzz for hidden endpoints could help
yes ig i haven't check
I need to confirm if I setup my API routes properly
Unfortunately, we cannot help you with your own projects here.
it is hosted on a ovh debian vm
prob a own lab test
Cause of OVHs ToS, I'd say do all your tests on local host to not get yourself yeeted
You'd think that, but it's not the first time a user has their website hosted and they just assume they have ownership to do what they want, that's why I asked them
That's why I always test on local first :D
wdym?
?
fair point
Do you have permission from OVH to be doing this?
Also to clarify why scrubz is asking: OVH are providing you an infrastructure, so testing exploits even if you own the website means you need permission from the one hosting your infrastructure
That's how it is.. Many people think they can do whatever they want just because it's their website, but forget that it's someone else's server (unless you host it on your own server)..
i buy a 4gb ram 1 core vm then i host there and conect domain so ig no pemisson is need to test my own website?
Very easy to get tho
It's not yours.
its mine
It's their architecture.
You're testing on foreign infrastructure, so yes
yes
You're renting not buying
but website is mine
No...
You need the owners permission to do tests on anything on their infrastructure
You only have permission to host.
It's like Facebook, you have the account, but it belongs to Facebook.
In this case, you'd need OVH in to consent to attacks being simulated over their infrastructure to your website
If you have your own server at home or a VM locally on your computer, you can do whatever you want. But when you rent VPS or other hosting, you don't own their infrastructure.
means if i download soucre code and host on my local machine i can test?
hello bro I can't find the URL for VMware.
yes
Tried Google, sister?
letme do
No...
Well, yes.
Aint you a hacker?:D
?
If it's on your own machine, you can do whatever you want.
The secong you put it on a cloud host, you're limited.
If you do the tests on your machines, you're fine to do whatever as long as it's within the LAN/local area net, and not simulated over the ISP
Once the tests are done you can push it to cloud and it'll be in the same security as local host
Relatively
A tip is to run Proxmox instead.. because they started with ugly prices etc.. I always recommend rproxmox, much nicer and no fees
okay, but how big companny test they also rent server from other sometime?
They test all the stuff internally before deployment
Or they get permission from the hosting company
no i am new in this field
Same as everyone else
Then they have permission in a contract that says they can do that.
me too
i am a boy
Even governments test internally
really
Yes
π€·
I'm not your brother.
Whenever you're developing a software or service, you're doing internal tests before testing intermittently, then you deploy on production
It's to minimise costs caused by errors and to ensure everything works
π
Sometimes tho, some things are only detectable on production
Like my very funny Satellite Payload π€£
That crashed satellites temporarily
But, something as simple as finding a website should be a property that you should already have. But I won't be that guy...
What do you need VMw for, are you going to set up a VM locally or on a server? If you're going to have it as a VM on your computer only, there are lots of others. If you're going to have it on a server, my suggestion is proxmox instead..But you do what you want of course!
you called me sister
how it works?
Oh I just had a bad encoding and the satellite didn't like it
Which triggered a bug in its archaic design and crashed it
Scrubz:
I wish it was something more special other than me not validating my own commands
Jokes on you, I'm not a human
She works with satellites...
THM won't cover it
why?
I don't even let friends call me bro, never mind people in the internet.
alr, you could make the argument that they aren't your "friends"
how you learn then?
They just shouldn't use bro, on people who're not famliar with it.
I have certificates in it
Hello.. What's going on here.. haha, brother here sister there.... we are all Americans and related in one way or another.. love and respect.. Peace too!!!
we aren't all Americans, tho π€£
https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2024/05/vmware-workstation-pro-now-available-free-for-personal-use.html
Read this, if u can.
VMware Desktop Hypervisor products Fusion and Workstation are used by millions of people every day to run virtual machines on their Windows, Linux and Mac computers. They give users the ability to quickly and easily build βlocal virtualβ environments to install other operating systems, learn about technology, build and test software, complex...
It's a fucking plague in my country with "brother" all the damn time... Even the little girls sit on the bus and say "brother" to each other...
We can argue with this all day.
The fact is, I don't like people on the internet calling me bro, you're not going to change my name.
And for every user who calls me bro, I will reply with sister.
ppl just do it out of habit tbh
unconscious mind controls us more than we know
it's more opinionated on what bro means and how it should be used, so there isn't really one definition for it, not saying your way of using it is wrong π
I am going to set up a virtual machine on my system. and Iβve already installed Kali on VirtualBox, but I asked the people here which Kali OS would be best for a beginner, and everyone suggested VMware.
Thatβs why I want to download it now β Iβve already downloaded the Kali VM file.
it is type 2 if you have a server you need typ 1 hypervisor
thanks
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I get it.. You also have VirtualBox, also free..
ik but vmware personal ver is free i think
Well, here's it is a thing, people do it to be cool and "gangsta".. sad..
what
Yes it is free with limitations... VirtualBox is free too, so do as @bleak quartz suggested and download both and decide which one you like best
Yes, so it's crazy... It's the "cool" gangsters from the suburbs who do it and then the other Hungarians want to be just as cool..
Like I said, even girls are chatting and calling each other bro...
What limitations?
Vmware Workstation Pro is free.
that's literally what the blog is about π
Now I don't have them in mind right away, but there are certain limitations I know, although perhaps none that directly affect that much if you use it at home on a smaller scale...
eh, ig u can think it that way but I think it's more like just a habit and it's basically slang atp
Scrubz, do you like virtualbox or vmware?
I only use Virtualbox to convert Vbox images to use in Vmware.
there's a way to do that?!
Well, I understand that it's a lot of practice, of course, but it's getting out of hand, it's getting too much, it's like "yes, brother" "no, brother" "okay, brother" after every sentence.. It's getting kind of hard
Yeah
huh, never knew
bro no data found π
????
do you want to download vmware?
yes
are you trying to create a kali vm with vmware?
what happend bro
I personally prefer Proxmox. If I need a local VM, it's virt-manager... for smaller things like a simple web server or some lab, it's sometimes docker, even though docker is the same thing as a VM...
You check it once, bro, by clicking on the URL
Hi
the post is a link to a blog.. go to https://www.vmware.com/ if you like to visist the site for vmw
is that gemini 2.5 pro
Yeah.
google is trying hard
I don't mean to be mean or mean in any way, but if finding such a large online database is a problem, then the road to becoming a pentester/hacker looks quite long...
Hi
Hi π
U good?
Bro, I have downloaded VMware version 17.6.3. and after searching VMware Workstation Pro in the dashboard search box, it shows "No Data Found", so how is it my fault?
...
you download VMware, but why are you searching for VMware Workstation Pro?
when i searched VMware version 17.6.3 it returned workstation pro
idk if they are the same
yeah, but like searching VMware Workstation Pro in the VMware dashboard search box?
π€·
I dont know about that one, i only start vms in vmware, didnt mess around with the options or features
Ig u were right
VMware better
wrong, it needs to be average qemu & kvm user
I officially done with 8th grade
The final exam is in 2 weeks but no more classes
Crazy year.
Well bomb em
Expensive*
Lol
Coz u make them at home


But i still pay taxes ken

So essentially am wasting double money
How am i gonna make c4 at home
That doesnt explode
Exam center has luke 80 fans and some 150+ lights lol
Thats not gonna blow up anything
The problem still lingers
Hmm
Not gonna help

Ken you are not a bad boy lol
Dont try to act like one
@rapid merlin

But i dont need to make anyone laugh ken
I gotta exam yk

I can make the examiner laugh
bomb the school then, last option
But cant cheat*
Then u will be class clown
gl
Thats also a problem
Luck is no object
its a gift
May the God of cheaters be with you
Nahhhhhh
Hmm maybe the teacher will announce the answers?
Lol
That could be lucky
Orignal chicken
I am bored
Do ctf
me too
Or site down?
will take a 7 day break from thm n focus on python and c# :' ()
Some mf wrote "Pending at" As "Message from" as Column name in 2.6K Lines of SubQuery
once had a teacher say the answers to me cuz I was sitting blank infront of the paper, no cap
Lol
I had to spend 2 days to find out, where is this PendingAt coming from, coz in producedure it's named "MsgFrom" -_-
@safe oxide what exams tho
What exams, Subject
:' )
Am not that bad
Hmmm kinda
Kids these days
Ur from the same era you moron
biology probably
--_--
0.5
Eigh"Teen"
Lol
how old are u
Lol i couldve been the best child on the planet
If i could do this much at 6months old
21+
But there is a 3 year old with 1600 elo(chess)
a legend
Lol
oh then you are really an adult, i just turned 18 a few months ago
Kids these days dont even know what young adult means
i thought young adults were early 20s π

Just a ques, Does being an adult means matured? :' ) [Not sayin tht anyone is immature] just a ques
18 years old with full of challenges and pressure
no
Nah, just means u have more shit on ur plate
if adults were actually mature, tiktok wouldnt exist
fr
Maturity comes with facing challenges and adult hood is just age
Young adult ken
Well I don't use it, so ig I am mature π jk
45
gotcha
you are
A women in her 30s kept calling me young adult at 18.... And herself Old women
Lol
Its hectic to fix arch again n again
nah I am still a kid deep down
Get her back now
i messed up with cpu freq today :' (
always keep the kid alive
Use Yay more
huh????
Lol
She is married to someone else, nah
to mess up cpu freq u dont need yay ig
maturity comes from many things, one of them is getting out of puberty (hormones affect your maturity), so adulthood is not just an age
Not in that way
U use yay right
How did u do that
Arch has its schedutil
women are sensitive about age, I feel that way
Welll lets not talk about that π
prolly spell mistke
Puberty ehh doesnt mean you become mature magically,
A little yes
Physically mature yes
But ehhh
yeah but its one of many aspects. as you said facing challenges and gaining experiences is another, which again, you do more with age
there's diff types of maturities
And sometimes u lose maturity too
atleast that news will make the 45 year olds happy
tbf life expectancy grew so much it might as well be considered a young adult lmao
i'm 18 years old but my heart is an 81 year old man =))
46 ppl 
Hmmm welp if you were born in war torn countries you will be more "mature" then countries in which ppl helicopter their children so age isnt really that important
can get in sys/devices/system
you havent seen the world yet
The average age of guys maturing is mid 20's.
the only thing different from the old man is that I have not experienced much in life
I'll go edit that rn just to prove u wrong πΌ
Lol
consider the people who were born in the same country, you cant tell me that on average a 40-year old isn't more mature than a 15 year old
You havent seen the world then

key word: on average
its a bell curve, of course there are exceptions
my ex didnt pass the average quota sheesh
What do you consider old?
When your knees give up
with age you get more experiences and get more chances to understand and control your emotions better
Thats called being wise
also called maturing
Guys is it worth it doing the whole free plan learning roadmap then buy premium or skipping it and buying the premium one right off the bat
define maturity...
emotional maturity is the most attractive fr
Depends on your experience
If u got absolutely 0 experience
Pls learn python or any easy lang
Makes your life so much easier
You're always ageing, so anything= or > 50.
Use the website a bit, then decide if you like the style of learning.
Acting better than ppl your age*
Alright thanks π
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give me the dictionary definition, not whatever that is
Both words are philosophical so cant really conjourup a real definition

Hmm
Bruh
Sister.
Smoll sister
There are some older people that have the maturity of a teenager. So it depends on the person tbh
Thats what i said
Hallo fly
Got any flies today?
Hello
Nope
Too bad
I mean, if you have to argue you're more mature than x...
Are you? Kek
morning yall
Hmm not arguin whose more mature scrubz
Mornin

Wait u slept in between this time?
In psychology, maturity can be operationally defined as the level of psychological functioning (measured through standards like the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children) one can attain, after which the level of psychological functioning no longer increases much with age. However, beyond this, integration is also an aspect of maturation, such...
Set traps
Wasn't your last message like 4 hours ago
5 hours of sleep pog
psychological maturity so we dont argue the context (e.g. mature fruit), also includes emotional maturity
yeah lol
But the definition you gave above before the link that i replied to with a pic is of wisdom*
That's a good nap
what is emotional maturity?
π maybe aim to sleep a bit more

As i said acting better than ppl your age
damn i feel called outtt
Having a stranglehold on one's emotions. As well as being able to see things from the other person's shoe if you will through empathy.
Hmm
dont skip out on sleep, the sleep debt will catch up to you
you're telling me now lmao
Also damn my room is cold π
would it shock you guys if i said i don't drink coffee as well
thats pretty rough
i put on a sweatshirt and actually didn't wake up shivering for once
Mints, can I steal your warmest blankets?
yes ofc
Thanks π©Ά
brother did you just send an instagram post π
I hate the smell of coffee,. nevermind the taste.
You sent a wiki post*
Energy drinks then?
nope
nothing wrong with that, its not actual research being done
So insta also works ig
instagram has no citations
Let me guess.. 
You're just a natural sleep deprived student then?
Hmmm maturity is a philosophical term as i mentioned it changed definitions depending on the person telling
yes sirrrrrrrπ«‘ π«‘ π«‘
Maturity and Wisdom aren't socio-emotional btw
Anyhow
Bruh
They're socio-ecologic

As a researcher do you ever cite a saying from a person on press?
Cz ya cant really be in person for all of meetings*
nope i cite papers, you never cite meetings
Hmmm
Not entirely true
i mean for actual publications
Papers also have to be said from a person
Depends on the context
not for internal presentations
Hmmmm

Some things can only be cited from viewable recorded resources
I.e. video transcript of military leaders
sup
Chillin wby
the best part about being in school till late, there's no one in class so no distractions
working
i mean for my field anyway, dont know what the historians are doing, for AI i never cite meetings or anything other than papers
or at most a book
Not everything that can be done has been explored on paper
Hmm
if its not presented in a paper then you develop it and its your new finding, which is now YOUR paper
well its fridayyyy
What if I wasn't the proposer of the idea?
trueeee almost the weekend
Lol
If there's recorded evidence, i.e. meeting memoirs, then it's the person who originally said it
the proposer will develop his own paper. Never have I seen an individual or some sort of meeting cited. Except maybe in acknowledgements but not in the citations section
Also I got a new color
my empire grows bigger
It's still usable, especially during technological advances
Hii, everyone I am a Utpal so am I looking for such friends or should I say such a team which plays together like THM, HTB, is anyone interested??
Everyone here tbh
oh wait, maybe I can steal more disks now for my NAS
But still my original point stands tall as everest, age doesnt mean maturity
I can vc if u got a mic
But almost all the time the proposer is in the list of authors
Tbh??
To be honest
I've had to inline cite Israeli commerative videos because it disclosed information about someone's relation to Stuxnet
So u got one?
I just want more dataaaa
ahh! i don't understand what u say
You dont cite them as someone making factual claims. You cite them as a source, thats completely different

Everyone here plays various platforms
And
It is the source, it's a source that discloses their relation to a project lmfao
If u got a mic I can vc
Citing papers is also a source and factual claim
Hello, have a question related to use OPENVPN in a tryhackme room.
When launching the SSH the password is never gets accepted. I tried with all possible VPN available to download. Any suggestion?
Thanks.
Nope I'm talking abt offensive and red team or pentester grp who finished hacking labs together
yeah but how is that related to the rest of the argument where: You will never cite an instagram post and say "this guy said so, therefore it must be true". You can only cite it as "this guy said this thing", stating nothing if its true or not
Citing a paper is the same thing lol
Move to channel scrubz mentioned
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I'll help
Literally lmao

Citation is citing someone or something the author believes to be true
the credibility of an instagram post and a paper is not the same, please
you cannot be serious
Bruhhhhhh
why can't they?
is anyone interested??
has to be ragebait
Now nvidia needs to release a paper before new graphics card
Depends on the poster.
What??
in a hamburger? sure
I can cite that S(n) = n + n as the solution to 1+1 because I believe that to be the correct proof for math
Hhhhehhe
But someone else may say that S = 2x is the correct proof
Citing is just what the author believes to be correct
You could even argue that there's no true proof to addition

Someone may cite that because they believe it to be true
A paper that has many citations, is in a good journal, is well developed, and contains proof for their claims, is infinitely more credible than a random instagram post
case closed
See, I want to build a team in which we will do different labs like THM, HTB and any other labs as a team and will look for new things.
What a stupid claim
So if I make a paper full of bs citations it's a good paper
Got it
no, when i say many citations, i meant it was itself cited many times
are you guys new to this?
No
it's school, not work
You just don't explain things correctly
and I am just borrowing them for my project
In any way
The hell did I miss?
I can remember a chinese firm announcing a new element with a proof paper and it was on a reputabke jounrnal*
idk lmao
Citations, whether minimal or extensive, are subjective to authors belief of correctness
Your claims are empty mate
90% are BS papers but thats why i said they need to be good
and theres indicators
Ahmm as i said a REPUTABLE JOURNAL
including what i mentioned

I mean if it references something that you use in your argument then the citations good
yes I am also saying the same thing but with the team
Citations are literally just personal belief of what you, the author, thinks is correct
there's a bunch of CTF teams
If you believe the earth is flat, you'll cite things saying the earth is flat, no?
just practice first a bit and you might be invited into one
some citations hold more weight than others, you have to agree with that, thats my whole point
unless the only research you've done is school level research
Like government sites
They don't, they hold as much weight to the subjective belief of reader and author
Some insta post also hold more weight than research papers*
schizo
actual ragebait
The only issue with government sites is that oftentimes they lack a published date or author
Dude I've literally reviewed AI papers and corrected math errors in it π€£
oi, wtf
I had to references CISA for a paper last semester on ZTA
I've had to write, and currently writing, research papers in cognitive behavioural analysis with machine learning
Lol
Ooo
so you are saying citing a paper claiming the earth is flat, and citing a paper proving why the earth cant be flat because of how we observe the stars or whatever, hold the same weight to you?
hmm but I am not saying that I want to join any other team, I am saying that I want to create a new team myself, so is anyone interested??
I've gotta eventually start publishing stuff on orca
I gotta write a research paper soon enough for research that I did over last semester on ai transcription stuff

you see who the authors are and what they've done. Different citations hold different credibility, its not that hard to understand
Jiga just wanna prolongen the baseless believes
If I was to believe the earth is flat, hypothetically, papers citing the earth to be round would hold less weight compared to papers saying the earth is flat
??
It's subjective
we dont care about your hypothetical subjective weight, objectively some papers hold more weight than others
A report is written to the authors belief of correctness
You literally asked about how it would be weighted
Not to be mean or anything but you're not even verified
But they hold weight cz of the author and if i dont believe in the ability of the author it holds nothing

What aren't you getting
The objective part is that some papers are peer reviewed, theres the journal impact factor, citation count, and if its from a reputable institution
Incorrectly cited where wisdom and maturity develop in social psych too
these arent subjective
If it's on something game changig then yes I'd say it holds more weight. For example, the cure for a major disease or a major discovery. There are also some papers that I'd imagine have abstracts that are utterly useless in nature.
Anyone can peer review
Yeyyyy
at this point you are ragebaiting
you didnt really specify what someone would be interested in
If we can't have a friendly debate without personally attacking somebody, that is when it's time to stop.
As i mentioned of the newly found element it was peer reviewed
and what journal was it?
no, you're ignoring that you might just in fact be wrong
π
May I link you to this:
#general message
See, I have recently joined this group so I don't know how to get it verified.
Nobody was singled out.
Yea
I was speaking to the channel as a collective.
I was just flagging in case it was missed
Hmmm
It was not, it just wasn't addressed until now.
How's life Scrubz?
Anyway, next topic, cause this debate over citations is dumb
Hows the job hunt
2/5 distraction ||joke||
It's grand.
like red teaming
How's the post graduation treating you?
Just waiting for results, got few pentest interviews lined up. π
Congratulations!!

congrats ππ
I got a fun fact of sorts. There's a series by a content creator called kanepixels. He's the guy who did the backrooms stuff, but he has another one called the oldest view. The mall in the rolling giant was actually made in blender which is fascinating. They didn't use an actual mall at all.
another fun fact, i've managed to accidentally melt something every year for the last 4 years
what have you melted?!
Another fun fact, I've managed to be hospitalised once a year for a different reason each time since I was 12
You got a spider trapped in your rig or something
F
Oof
year one: pudgy pie maker, totally an accident, i pulled it out of the fire and no more pudgy pie, it was fucking melting in the fire
year two: pitcher, accidentally broke it, and decided to melt the pieces into ingots with another pudgy pie maker, i probably am going to get a cancer from those fumes
year three: 3D printer, i don't wanna talk about it π
year four: router, hey at least it livened up the classroom
oh my goodness
you melted a router?
The hell is a pudgy pie 
turns out handing a power cable to your friend and saying "check this out" doesn't also imply to them to look at the wattage, voltage, etc
A pudgy pie sounds like an insult that you'd call someone who's overweight
Does anyone want a funny read?
Depends on the topic
DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.
yes
Navy breaking wifi by accident
It looks like a grilled cheese sandwich

As HMAS Canberra was passing along New Zealandβs coast on its approach to Wellington, its navigation radar interfered with wireless and radio signals over a large area spanning Taranaki in the North Island to the Marlborough region in the South Island.
well yeah but i'm taking about the cast iron tool uses to make it
fake news, cited a linkedin post /s
Ah
Gotcha
So uhhh for the Walking An Application room
I think I accidentally got a flag that's technically out of scope
I don't need help I've done it lol
I just found it funny that I got a flag on there that technically wasn't required
The VM is used in more than one room, you've just obtained a flag intended for a different question.
ahh makes sense then
there was a framework question and I thought you needed to see a different endpoint rather than check the update log and go from there
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Lol
Supposedly there was a gpt model that when faced with shutdown. It tried to escape and clone itself to escape that shutdown
why you writing lol so much?
Ohhhh my arms hurt
Oof
did you overdo it?
Haven't done it in ages
So it's lots of pulling my body weight against gravity
Also the walls weren't small

Let me black out the branding first and I'll send a photo
Working out or something?
i have no idea how you even do it in the first place π
Rock climbing is fun.
It really is
I miss it
Not as good as OCR, but still fun.
I did it for almost two hours and now my arms hate me π€£
Getting close to the ceiling would throw me for a loop.
Higher monkey bars.
There's about 3 meters from the top of the wall to the roof
I call it the reverse fear of heights
girl how tf do you do it for 2 hours?
Which is about 11'3" iirc
Do they at least have the little harnesses or are you freeballing it?
Cause I went with a friend and it was fun
fuck it, I am going home
Cause it's indoors we have to use the harness due to laws


