general

[blissful snow]

lets see

[queen flare]

so you wanted revenge?
(congrats on your new colour btw)

[safe oxide]

Garlic mayo

[dark mason]

Ty lol, but no, if I ever find the devs I would thank them lol

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @queen flare (current: #207 - 40)

[rapid merlin]

Okay maybe sounds Delicious might try

[blissful snow]

wait are you saying he's gonna ask me that or just adding

I wanted revenge till I found out you could go to jail for it .

[blissful current]

what a coincidence ....New AD Room while im doing CRTP ...noice practice

[safe oxide]

Well you can give review on mayo as well why not

[queen flare]

whats CRTP

[blissful current]

Certified Red Team Professional

[dark mason]

red team cert

[safe oxide]

Certified red team practioner?

[queen flare]

i see

[safe oxide]

👀

[rapid merlin]

Plain mayo sounds mess, I would not

[dark mason]

@blissful current better ace it or I am gonna be mad /j

[blissful snow]

we're gonna jump him.

[safe oxide]

No one gonna use plain mayo mate that's way too viscous for that

[blissful current]

[dark mason]

Yeah! We are gonna... WHAT,

[blissful snow]

loool

[queen flare]

+1 @blissful current

[rapid merlin]

yep other than that i am fine with it 😋 it's delicious

[safe oxide]

Ahmm man nap him

[blissful snow]

?

[queen flare]

+1 means i have the same opinion

[blissful snow]

ohhh I thought you were trying to give rep lol

[queen flare]

smh

[safe oxide]

[rapid merlin]

It's so hot i hate when climate gets lil sticky

[blissful snow]

same

[dark mason]

I hate when the climate changes suddenly

[safe oxide]

Shower ppl

[rapid merlin]

I have guests over

[dark mason]

like if it goes from 20 deggress to -1 I am cooked

[blissful snow]

I'm outside most of the day

[rapid merlin]

Else I would be chilling in AC on THM

[dark mason]

cuz I get nose bleeds

[safe oxide]

Guests can't stop you from showeribg

[blissful current]

cooked frozen

[safe oxide]

👀 what are you coin mate

[rapid merlin]

It's rude in india if u leave room

[dark mason]

we have -20 here often

[blissful snow]

?

[safe oxide]

Nahhhhh

Doin*

[rapid merlin]

In my family it is

[blissful snow]

Biking

[blissful current]

real cooked is in my hometown 50 degree C + temp

[safe oxide]

What if you have to go to washroom?

[blissful snow]

80-90 normally here :D

[rapid merlin]

That's different xD

But i have never seen anyone leave except me

[dark mason]

Fahrenheit, right?

[safe oxide]

50c you sure you're not trippin?

[blissful current]

*F
not *C lol

[safe oxide]

50 c lol

[rapid merlin]

50F

[blissful current]

peak temp recorded has been 52*C something

[safe oxide]

👀

[blissful current]

Celsius
not Fahrenheit

[safe oxide]

Welp

I can cook without laying gas bills at least that's a plus

[blissful current]

make omelette on any metal outside ..

[sand trench]

peak temp shadow has touched == 285°C

[safe oxide]

That's nothing

[sand trench]

don't recommend

[sand trench]

well that is the temp shadow remembers being the hotest they have touched

[blissful snow]

@sick lance Can I dm about something?

[sand trench]

quite possible shadow has been in contact with hotter but can't garantuee that

more specifically while soldering

[safe oxide]

But how did shadow even came in contact with that heat

[blissful snow]

What were you doing ?

[safe oxide]

If its a shadow

👀

[sand trench]

285°C was after touching a plate of metal from the oven when the "glove" slipped

[blissful snow]

omg same thing here

[blissful current]

[blissful current]

[blissful current]

ello ello

[sand trench]

ello

it hurt but not to bad

solder splashes was worse

[safe oxide]

Hmm

[blissful snow]

I grabbed a solder iron before thinking if I unplug it it would not be hot

😭

[safe oxide]

LoL

Hehee

[safe oxide]

Agreed

[rapid merlin]

I’ll be soldering soon

[blissful snow]

Then my friends started stabbing eachother with it and I had to take it from them ....

[blissful snow]

cool I never did solder my solder iron was so weak it couldn't melt the solder

[rapid merlin]

Ah okay

I’m waiting for parts to come for his project

[blissful snow]

nice

[sick lance]

Yeah

@vital thistle can I help you?

[blissful current]

ello

[safe oxide]

Henlo

[blissful current]

Hemlo

[rapid merlin]

Finally I can chill in AC

[frozen gull]

tf

[blissful current]

[frozen gull]

wat

[safe oxide]

Bro kicked his neighbours out

[sand trench]

think those are the wrong type of quotes

[bleak quartz]

" "

[frozen gull]

oh

[bleak quartz]

where tf does one even get those

I see those in articles and shi

but u can just normally type them somehow?

[frozen gull]

ye this one i couldnt understand

i took it from medium

[blissful current]

[sand trench]

copy pasting flags are we???

[bleak quartz]

Lmao

[sand trench]

because if yes bad bad tard bad

[frozen gull]

not copy pasting im lazy rn xD

[bleak quartz]

don't copy n paste

It will only work in THM, no where else

[sand trench]

if you wanna learn just copy pasting will hurt your knowledge far into the future

[bleak quartz]

just a waste of time if u do

[sand trench]

your laziness is hurting your learning

[bleak quartz]

faxs

[bleak quartz]

faxs x2

[safe oxide]

fax

[grave lily]

the new room of AD doesnt have the network vpn

[bleak quartz]

looks fancy

[bleak quartz]

hover over the emojis

[stark sequoia]

hows everyone doing this fine night/day?

[blissful current]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

@bleak quartz

[bleak quartz]

lmaoo

[sick lance]

It does, scroll down

[sand trench]

stuck in setting up new browser hell

[safe oxide]

Moving to zen?

[stark sequoia]

oh no, which one?

[grave lily]

i srolled down no thing

[sand trench]

not sure yet

[blissful current]

try refreshing page maybe...im doing it rn , working for me

[grave lily]

just adenum and breach

[grave lily]

trust me i did

[sick lance]

Did you start the network?

[rapid merlin]

No it was my newly wed cousin XD

[grave lily]

yes

[grave lily]

i got it thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #2 - 3736)

[sand trench]

most likely going for librewolf or mullvad browser

[stark sequoia]

did you guys hear, virtualbox had a vulnerability that allows malware to escape CVE-2025-30712

looks serious

[sand trench]

oof a vm escape

those are generally nasty

[blissful current]

[stark sequoia]

yeah apparently its easily exploitable

[blissful snow]

isn't that gonna always exist since virtualbox runs on the perons computer

[clear jackal]

VM escapes are possible on any hypervisor yes

[sand trench]

8.1 severity

[blissful snow]

dang

[torn peak]

Hello guys im new here, i completed all free paths in pre security and now i wonder if i should pay for premium so i can continue in learning. So i want to ask if its really worth 14$ monthly?

[stark sequoia]

you are asking this in the official discord so

just so you know the answer is biased

but yes its worth 🙂

[blissful current]

yearly with Student discount or any discounts is more worth it

[torn peak]

are there any special discounts sometimes?

[stark sequoia]

are you a student?

[blissful current]

ya they do come around

[torn peak]

yes poor student😭

[stark sequoia]

if you have a student email from university or school then use that to get a discount

[torn peak]

but thats only used for year subscription right

[blissful current]

ya

[stark sequoia]

yeah you only want to pay monthly?

[torn peak]

i dont know i wanted to try it first and then i would probably go for year subscription if i get attached

[stark sequoia]

fair enough

[devout violet]

hello spanish?

[light shuttle]

Bro I done something wrong

[stark sequoia]

english

[light shuttle]

While I was doing pentesting

[torn peak]

If there was something like a 3 day free trial it would be cool but I understand that there are some people who are able to get trough half the paths on tryhackme in that amount of time so it wouldn't be very worh for the developers

[light shuttle]

On login page I enter the valid credentials and got response 302 and then I entered the invalid credentials and copy that 302 res and paste in it now web shows 500 code error , well it is our website, but I wanna know how to fix it

Some one knows

[queen flare]

i am not sure if we can help with this, unless it is a thm room

[queen flare]

who can get through half the pathway within that time

without writeups

i wanna meet them

[blissful snow]

hi

[queen flare]

so you are the one

the choosen one

[blissful snow]

wait huh

wheres the opt out button

[queen flare]

for what

[blissful snow]

.

[blissful current]

[blissful snow]

[queen flare]

there isn't one

you start grinding thm tommorow

finish a few pathways within next week

[blissful snow]

I already did

I gotta pay now 😭

[queen flare]

pay

it is worth it

[blissful snow]

Probelm

no money

[queen flare]

i'm stealing this for sending harmless packages to friends

[blissful snow]

Why are you waiting shake it

[torn peak]

Should I do free paths too? Because I don't really understand if it's somehow related to the premium ones because they go one after the other from the beginning to some basic experience and the free paths are kind of add-ons, I guess? Or how should I go in order?

[blissful snow]

There's a free read map, you can get the basics from free and more.

[queen flare]

well everything in cybersecurity is interlinked
some of the free learning rooms need knowledge from other premium learning rooms, but you can also get that knowledge for free elsewhere

[queen flare]

there's also this thing
you can find it if you google free roadmap tryhackme i guess

[blissful snow]

No tryhackme has the roadmap

[queen flare]

oh?

[blissful snow]

It for free user

instead of you haing to found out which one are premium and free

[queen flare]

doesn't show for me
maybe because i have premium

so it only shows learning pathways

[cloud quiver]

It is only shown for non-premium users but there's a ss below if you need it 🙂

+rep @civic oak

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @civic oak (current: #326 - 21)

[blissful snow]

lot of check marks

[queen flare]

thanks
as expected you solved all of them xD

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #1 - 4964)

[cloud quiver]

This isn't mine ss 🙂

[queen flare]

ah

[blissful snow]

ohhh

[queen flare]

well you prolly also solved everything to be fair

lol

[blissful snow]

Question do you do tryhackme room daily or are you just apart of the community

[queen flare]

he does them daily

[cloud quiver]

I'm on THM every day 🙂

[queen flare]

he has like streak of 1200k plus
and he's 9 or smth on the global leaderboards xD

[raven wedge]

hello!

[blissful snow]

hi

[queen flare]

kgb is the real deal

[raven wedge]

hows ur day

[blissful snow]

oh ok

[queen flare]

how do you do

[blissful snow]

I always wonder how did 0day maintain first place for so long

[raven wedge]

im good 🙂 how about you

[queen flare]

he still does a room or two every now and then if you see his profile

he's still no. 1 right?

[blissful snow]

last time i checeked

oh no its me

nah im joking

yes he is

[queen flare]

yeah he is

[blissful current]

did many First Bloods thats one reason too

even if u do the same rooms , points rewarded will be less on old rooms

[queen flare]

kgb's 7

[blissful snow]

not for me

ok now he is

had to refresh

I could find my rank i was looking for it departly and i notice im not logged in 🤣

[blissful current]

[blissful snow]

1080

😄

[blissful current]

?

[blissful snow]

rank

[blissful current]

Full HD

[blissful current]

which one?

[devout violet]

hola necesito ayuda

[blissful snow]

the leader board

[blissful current]

...ok

[pallid lotus]

Blooded every room for a few months, and built up enough of a lead that it would be impossible to catch up based on the number of rooms available

It's a little... broken

[blissful current]

[blissful snow]

ahh dam

I needa get that good lol

first blood for a few months is crazy

hi

nun

wyd

ah

It's for there site tryhackme

[blissful snow]

it basically a place where we can talk a cybersecurity and other things

yep

[blissful current]

Ethical Hacking

[blissful snow]

ust a place to chill

[blissful current]

Cyber Sec

[blissful snow]

No

[blissful current]

NOPE

only White Hat Stuff

Learn and get a job , get certs ...gain practical experience on labs, CTFs etc

[blissful snow]

yea

[mossy river]

Can you type in one message please 😅

[blissful snow]

They hafe a bug bounty program

[knotty pendant]

[mossy river]

Then you haven't read our community rules 🙁

[blissful snow]

https://tenor.com/view/this-hammer-is-100-km-near-your-house-gif-5814637008721710847

[blissful current]

only with permissions such as in Bug bounty Hunting OR in Lab/Virtual/Practice Environments
tons of stuff is illegal
so ..yeah ...be careful

[blissful snow]

Learn the basics

What do you know?

That's not the basics

[mossy river]

You will be muted if you continue to break the community rules I'm afraid

[sick lance]

It's shame you don't know how to type longer /s

[blissful snow]

Do you know networking

[rapid merlin]

[blissful snow]

#start-here

Networking is not the only thing im refering to.

Just the basics in genera.

[rapid merlin]

Welcome, newcomers

[blissful current]

ello

[blissful snow]

No

Computer networking tcp,ip's,etc

[dark mason]

I am planning to make a simple rootkit for them koth games

[cunning gyro]

Both are essential

[blissful snow]

OOOO Can you dm how that work I always wondered

no

It requires it

[cunning gyro]

Considered bare minimum

[sand trench]

WATTA

chug chug chug

[dark mason]

Rootkits or koth?

[sick lance]

It's illegal

[cunning gyro]

One’s old one’s new

[sick lance]

It's not new?

[sand trench]

newer but not really new

[sudden canyon]

Hi, I've been thinking about changing browsers since manifest v3 is coming soon and firefox did what they did in february. Which browser should I use? I did some research and librewolf seems like a good choise. Does anyone have any experience on librewolf (security etc.) or any other recommendations?

[sand trench]

but nothing newer needs to exist for a long while

[dark mason]

No, it's just easier to implement

[sand trench]

librewolf is good if you use a linux distro as your daily driver which has librewolf in its repos... if not it can be a pain to update it yourself manually

[sick lance]

Go with what your research suggests?

[sand trench]

but for privacy and security generally librewolf is the best fork for firefox

[sick lance]

That would be illegal

[sand trench]

though mullvad browser is technically more private but good luck customising that without hurting yourself or other mullvad browser users

[jaunty jolt]

Hlo I was hacking WiFi using an android app that used PIN with WPS on an I want a strong app with more pins if anyone can help me

[sick lance]

You're also hacking stuff they don't own.

[sick lance]

WiFi hacking is for our advanced channels

[sharp citrus]

Discord: What Are the Advanced Channels?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/8671900-discord-what-are-the-advanced-channels

May 19, 2025, 7:13 PM

[sick lance]

No..

[cunning gyro]

Isn’t WiFi hacking illegal, scrubz

[sick lance]

They don't own the email

[sand trench]

yes you can get permission from the account holder but not the service the account is hosted on

[sick lance]

Not if you purchase the router.

[cunning gyro]

54 at least

[sand trench]

old enough to kick shadow down a flight of stairs :D

[next grove]

Man

[sick lance]

What does my age have to do with this?

[next grove]

You don't up and ask people that lol

[rapid merlin]

[cunning gyro]

Incognito Google is good, super secure

[next grove]

What did Firefox do?

[cunning gyro]

Got uninstalled from my device is what it did

[next grove]

Savage

[cunning gyro]

Brave isn’t so bad, still testing it

[sand trench]

remove any mention of them not selling your data in their privacy policies and faq

[cunning gyro]

Data sharing technically

[sand trench]

and also giving themselves a special license to any data you input into the browser

[sick lance]

No

[sand trench]

but both are more or less just legaleese

under the definition of the california privacy acts definition of sell == yes

which is so broad it goes outside what most people consider the word sell to mean

[next grove]

I would very much think there are HUNDREDS of online services out there that sells your data

Thousands even

This is no surprise.

[cunning gyro]

Lmfao

I only use Kali in my browser

Everything

[sand trench]

nearly anything you can do on a debian based linux distro

though some things will be a lot more painful then you would want

[next grove]

I need to get the hell off Windows.

But I love my WoW.

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: jonthedawn#0 has been banned.

[cunning gyro]

Now what did Jon the dawn do

[sand trench]

darn found cool youtube video but the audio volume of it is super low

[cunning gyro]

I’ve always liked powershells layout more

[sand trench]

don't mind shadow turning on do not disturb to avoid pings for a bit

[next grove]

I'm a fan of Parrot Kali

and its CMD.

[sick lance]

The ban tells you of you click it.

[cunning gyro]

It’s decent, powershell is beautiful, tried getting my Kali like it but, not the same

[sick lance]

@rapid merlin you've been spoken to twice now about sendng messages like that, if younger auto muted, I won't unmute you.

You're

[cursive bobcat]

good evening every1

time for some THM

[next grove]

You go to your nearest abandoned warehouse, shout it at the top of your lungs, and wait paitently and someone will perhaps meet you.

[blissful current]

[next grove]

I said "'and" twice

Ugh

I suck at Engrish.

[cunning gyro]

Shame

[next grove]

Its a password cracker.

[cunning gyro]

The grandpa

[next grove]

Honestly

no idea

But if I were to use password crackers

I'd use John

If you want the OG password cracking stuff, use a rainbow table.

[cunning gyro]

Cain and able is outdated

[blissful current]

it was made only for windows Password recovery lol

majorly atleast

[next grove]

I was told something way different.

What about Hydra?

[cunning gyro]

Hashcat or ripper is fine

[next grove]

Ahhhh. Hashcat.

[blissful current]

Hydra is for Brute Forcing Passwords

John , Hashcat etc for Hash Cracking

[next grove]

Damn it Yod lol

[cunning gyro]

What I do 😂

[cunning gyro]

Hydra takes a decade too

[blissful current]

ikrr

[cunning gyro]

Go run your errands after executing 😂

Brute forcing is inefficient anyways until we are quantum

[blissful current]

Bruteforcing is the Last option unless you are sure about the security measures are weak and outdated and might have been pwned or sum shit tbh

[crimson shoal]

Hey everyone! 👋

I’m new here and just submitted my first room to TryHackMe. Super excited to be part of the community!

Quick question: how can I get access to the Creator channels or the creator Discord space? Would love to connect and learn from others who are building rooms too.

Thanks in advance and hi to all! 😄

[cunning gyro]

Hash cat won’t help you that’s for more complicated scenarios

Salty ones too

[next grove]

My guess is DM'ing. Be polite.

[crimson shoal]

Thank you, but sorry did I say something rude?

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @next grove (current: #2891 - 1)

[sick lance]

You'll need to verify firzt

[blissful current]

u need to verify for that
using /verify command

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How Do I Verify My TryHackMe Account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

May 19, 2025, 7:31 PM

[cunning gyro]

Lol

[blissful current]

basically means sensitive info compromised in simple words

[crimson shoal]

thank you guys i appreciate it, I usually dont use discord but I been using tryhackme for two years now !

[blissful current]

Oh there's Two new AD rooms ...great ..one done , one more to go

[sick lance]

Must be in time for something

Depends on the user.

[cunning gyro]

If you don’t know how to get a hash you need to focus at the early stages

Like vocabulary

Scrubz will mentor you

I gotta hit the gym

[next grove]

Pffffff.

[blissful current]

[cunning gyro]

My wife does too

[languid pecan]

Yo

[dark mason]

Most platforms remove it

Welcome to the world of osint

I do osint

[blissful current]

how to get the role for Announcement Pings?

[dark mason]

I love osint, but osint hates me

[languid pecan]

Use exiftool

[sick lance]

/notifyme

[blissful current]

okays , thanks

[sick lance]

Will I?

[chilly veldt]

depends on the picture

[crystal mauve]

any tips to not get 7 fps on EFT lol

[chilly veldt]

all big social medias remove exif data

[rapid merlin]

I wanna watch a movie, dunno what to watch

[blissful current]

[chilly veldt]

you don't

[crystal mauve]

hmm looks like its running on my cpu gpu not on my graphics card

[blissful current]

what genre?

[chilly veldt]

why you want to get exif data?

[rapid merlin]

I don’t know

[chilly veldt]

of what?

[rapid merlin]

👁️👄👁️

[rapid merlin]

Something

[chilly veldt]

for what reason do you want to get the location, that's what I am asking

[blissful current]

i wanna watch The Ameteur tho

[rapid merlin]

Oh yeahhh

Ahh but then I have to go out to watch it

I just got back from the shop

I don’t want to go back out

And I got to go out tomorrow

[blissful current]

same ...cant do that rn

[chilly veldt]

ngl, I would love some strawberries with sugar and cream

[rapid merlin]

I just can’t be asked to go out, I’ve got Netflix though

[chilly veldt]

spy?

[ancient plover]

we are all feds

[blissful current]

FINAL DESTINATION!

is it on Netflix tho?

[ancient plover]

👻

this is more of a common occurrence here than id assume it was

everytime i look at general 👀

[blissful current]

ikr

[rapid merlin]

The old ones are but not the new one. Scary movies don’t scare me anymore.

They’re boring

[ancient plover]

nice banner

[blissful current]

Play Outlast ....the game lel

[blissful current]

thx

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @ancient plover (current: #987 - 5)

[ancient plover]

np

[rapid merlin]

I played a “scary” game once called layers of fear. It was cooool

[modest charm]

sup

[rapid merlin]

I don’t play video games anymore, I don’t even have a pc

[blissful current]

ah dang ..ok

[rapid merlin]

There was a game mentioned above

[crimson shoal]

Hello Back thank you for your help, I got verified what I should do next ?

[mossy river]

That would be piracy

Buy a Netflix subscription then?

[rapid merlin]

I have Netflix but it’s kinda rubbish now days

No good movies on there

[sick lance]

That's piracy and illegal

[pallid lotus]

Of all the things to miss, that's just kinda sad.
Have you considered missing a human instead? Or better yet, an animal?

[modest charm]

if you are 5 bucks too short to have netflix you shouldnt have netflix

[blissful current]

i found a new war genre movie but its on Prime

[mossy river]

Amazon prime gives you access to their prime video, if you think about it (and aren't a student), you're essentially paying £5 for prime and another 5 for videos and music

[sick lance]

Only pirates of the Caribbean

[blissful current]

[dark mason]

Pirating movies? I call that osint

[modest charm]

I prefer Cutthroat Island

[mossy river]

They get removed and fined all the time

[rapid merlin]

Not sure I would search up war movies either 😅

[mossy river]

Fined less of the time but sooner or later

[pallid lotus]

Same reason there are websites which provide you with weapons and other... less savoury content
People do illegal shit on the internet.

[blissful current]

[cursive bobcat]

can somebody please explain this??

[mossy river]

Autofill from your passwords keychain? It's asking for your macbook password to autofil

[pallid lotus]

You've been talking about piracy for the past 10 minutes, sis

lmfao

[cursive bobcat]

DENIED

[rapid merlin]

Soz 😆

[cursive bobcat]

wait so is this normal from THM?

if not im reporting them

[sick lance]

It's normal from your browser.

You obviously don't know how key chains work...

[cursive bobcat]

it says THM requested it

[pallid lotus]

Falling for what? There's no subterfuge here. You're about as transparent as a newly cleaned pane of clear glass

[sick lance]

Because you've probably stored your password.

You're in for a bumpy ride.

[mossy river]

If you're doing a TryHackMe room with a web browser it will also prompt you to use your password

It's because the websites simulate real ones

[cursive bobcat]

so THM are requesting my passowrd for autofill?

[mossy river]

*if it has a login form

[cursive bobcat]

oh do you mean in the terminal?

why would i put my password in a virtual terminal hosted by them?

[dark mason]

👋

[pallid lotus]

Aw. We'll miss 'em

[dark mason]

Back to normal scheduled chatting

[chilly veldt]

I went and bought strawberries and cream

[next grove]

Very quietly yet in a pathetic fasion... laughs under breath.

[pallid lotus]

... Pardon?

[next grove]

You claimed I'll miss him.

I barely know the guy

[blissful current]

[rapid merlin]

I think, just a hunch, they were being sarcastic 😆

[next grove]

Que the pathetic and quiet laughter.

[cursive bobcat]

can you please elaborate because its never asked me for my password before....

[blissful current]

cool setup in ur pfp

[rapid merlin]

I’m so snackish tonight

[next grove]

Thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @blissful current (current: #213 - 39)

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/hamburger-frieren-elf-anime-eating-gif-3698269199209320586

I need more snack

God that gif is massive

How does your react look like her

[blissful current]

Frieren~~~~

[blissful current]

its a different character tho lol

[rapid merlin]

Monch

I wish I had white hair 🥲

But noooo the bleach just kills my hair

[blissful current]

u can watch this series too
its good

it just won 5 out of 10 Anime of the Year Awards

[rapid merlin]

Did it uwu

[blissful current]

nice

[rapid merlin]

I watched an anime recently. About a guy who was being haunted by this girl who loved him. She died and turned into a weird demon thing.

[blissful current]

currently am Watching Wind Breaker S2 and ToBeHero X

[rapid merlin]

She never let him go and so he found a way to get her to pass over to heaven.

It was uh okay I guess

Not the best anime I’ve seen

[blissful current]

not much idea which one is it, i dont watch much anime ..just a few and sometimes

[rapid merlin]

Yeah I watch one anime every five years 😂

I don’t really care about anime or video games anymore

[next grove]

Blasphemy.

[blissful current]

me too ...focusing on career more nowadays
games ..sometimes coz im into game dev too ..

[next grove]

I need somebody who is good at account creation. My DM is open.

[blissful current]

night night everyone

[mossy river]

Accouint creation?

[rapid merlin]

Too focused on security right now

Building my own defence

[rapid merlin]

Night

[next grove]

Yes. I'll explain the story via DMs if you need context.

[mossy river]

I'd love context, but why can't you explain it here? 😄

[next grove]

It involves an unjustified and swift decision from an unnamed community that I'd feel really comfortable explaining via DMs.

[mossy river]

Sure

[next grove]

One moment.

[frail tundra]

does anyone have some good books that would help someone prepare for compita A+ cert

[crystal mauve]

Hey one borne, I’m currently writing notes on A+

dm me and I’ll share em

[pallid lotus]

Very sarcastic

[dark mason]

Long live the AI chatbots

[rapid merlin]

👀

[cursive bobcat]

le bosh!

you're a wizard @rapid merlin

[mortal ether]

joined the green goblin crew

[cursive bobcat]

watch out, spidey's about

[dark mason]

W

[mortal ether]

^^ this

[dark mason]

I temporarily left the green gang a few days ago

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-the-party-wizard-nod-nodding-laugh-gif-17827071

I also got in plat

[bitter latch]

hello guys

[craggy wadi]

you'll be back

[cursive bobcat]

i cast pspsps

hahaa

[rapid merlin]

Pspspsps doesn’t even work on my cat

hi guys

You gotta condition it to it first

[stray vine]

Hey everyone

[rapid merlin]

go full pavlov

dude this is so stressful to learn

[formal ice]

Do we have an hour for this announcement :>? #announcements message

[rapid merlin]

wish i were that bird

[cursive bobcat]

maybe your cat speaks dog language

[next grove]

I wonder if I can post that one funny gif.

[mortal ether]

are you sure you're a real wizard yet then?

this guy did it

[next grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203340182854570015/1279991588277321738/CrowDanceBirbBird.gif

Lol!

Behold. A crow misbehaving.

[rapid merlin]

He jumps to no noise

You can hear him purring

[jade oar]

Good morning

[jade oar]

How tall can he jump

[rapid merlin]

🤷‍♀️

depends what you've got

[rapid merlin]

Facts

I’ve seen him up on furniture he shouldn’t be on

[jade oar]

We need to test that

[rapid merlin]

I can’t be asked

[jade oar]

True that’s to much effort with your cat

[rapid merlin]

Too much effort for me

[jade oar]

Indeed

Yo I hate when I wake up feeling mad dizzy

[sand trench]

bfletguhd

shadow calls on you eldritch horror bfletguhd

[jade oar]

Is she using a spell 😧

[sand trench]

hands over abyssal kitten this one does not belong in shadows house

[jade oar]

No

Wait hang it over and doesn’t belong in shadow house then where does it

[sand trench]

:3

[wraith locust]

Yo guys what side hustles i can do while learning cybersecurity?

[jade oar]

Icl idk

[jade oar]

🙂

[wraith locust]

Bro we need to focus on the bag at the end lol

not education

[jade oar]

On godddddd

[wraith locust]

Yeah god first

[jade oar]

Ofc

[wraith locust]

How the hell do i make money while learning

[jade oar]

But true chase the bag

[wraith locust]

thats the problem right now

i don't want to pivot

[jade oar]

There is many ways but it depends on your country budge and etc so I can’t really help

[wraith locust]

Bug bounties ?

[wraith locust]

Yeah there are many ways faster too but not related to tech

and i don't wanna pivot tbh

[knotty valve]

It's so cold 😭

[gusty inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/reviving_chat-reviving-chat-dead-chat-chat-helping-gif-24615132

[knotty valve]

Bug bounties, internships (yes they can be paid), building a service that can be used by others with a small fee, etc.

The first two are usually easier since all the legal side of things are majority handled for you, the latter requires some knowledge about business practices since you'll be classed as both sole-trader and service provider

[formal ice]

Do we have an hour for this announcement :>? #announcements message

[knotty valve]

There's ofc other things you can do, such as part time jobs, just remember that you don't need to do cyber while studying if it's just temporary until you have capacity to work full-time in your desired field, also having some form of customer service does help cause it shows you can work with clients

[knotty valve]

Roughly, it'll be at some point today; most likely whenever Skidy or other THM staff are able to post the details

[mossy river]

Tomorrow * it’s not the 20th yet 😊

[wraith locust]

Yeah im transitioning from content creation to this career, i have made a lot from selling digital products on social media but its not sustainable long term i can never depend on that financially for so long, so yeah i guess i will try. I feel like there are more opportunities beside a 9-5 in this field right?

[steady pewter]

Hallo everyone.

[steady pewter]

wait..no..it's the 21st century, isn't it?

[wraith locust]

I have a degree in tech too still in college but i think i need to adjust my focus tbh i cant succeed if i focused on 2 fields i would rather focus on 1 which is this one and go all in

[knotty valve]

It's the 20th here™

[sand trench]

t minus 48 mins then jabba

[steady pewter]

Are you guys like..100 years behind?

[knotty valve]

20th of May

Not 20th century

[steady pewter]

(just kidding you know that, right? I'm sure you do.)

[mossy river]

All announcements are based on UK time, and assume it won’t be until working hours (if’s 11pm right nowh

[knotty valve]

I didn't get the joke

Lmao

[sand trench]

yeah it is obviously 0020-05-20

[knotty valve]

Ah

[steady pewter]

hahaha

[knotty valve]

[steady pewter]

[knotty valve]

Also, I'm happy, I get to do red team at work today

[real holly]

Hello everyone.. this's my first time hear & I'm beginner

[steady pewter]

I've got 256 messages in my inbox..does that mean I have only 1?

[steady pewter]

Cool!

[craggy wadi]

hello all. hows it going?

[steady pewter]

You can start at #start-here

[knotty valve]

Happy

[wraith locust]

Hi how are you?

[knotty valve]

I'm going through red team training

[craggy wadi]

oohh fun. work stuff?

[knotty valve]

Yea

[craggy wadi]

very well thanks 🙂 you?

[wraith locust]

Im fine i think i will quit my content creation career and go all into this i can never succeed if i focused on 2 things

[craggy wadi]

thats awesome. what training platform? something proprietary or 3rd party?

[knotty valve]

Internal

[craggy wadi]

you do you 🙂
don't have to quit anything. you can explore other options until you're sure or just put in on the shelf for a bit

[wraith locust]

Yeah i want to make something out of this career tbh. but the problem is FOCUS its hard to multitask as a college student and a gym addict

[craggy wadi]

awesome. have fun!
do they have your whole team doing it?

[knotty valve]

You'll do it, it's just a matter of figuring out balance

[knotty valve]

Some of us are

[cursive bobcat]

try lions maine

[craggy wadi]

true. your priorities will fall in line.

[wraith locust]

Yeah i hope thanks for inspiring me i will try to find balance since im quite intense and i love focusing on 1 lane 1 thing

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @knotty valve (current: #192 - 45)

[knotty valve]

Our team is too big for us to train the entire blue team on red team lmao

[craggy wadi]

you'd be surprised what you can make time for when you're truly excited about something.

you'll find wiggle room in your schedule if its something you really want to do

[knotty valve]

So we got a ballot box basically and selected at random

[craggy wadi]

oh you won the lottery so to speak

[knotty valve]

Yea

[wraith locust]

Yeah im trying to find my true passion 😂

[craggy wadi]

lucky you haha

[knotty valve]

Ikr

I never win anything

[craggy wadi]

same

actually one time when i was a kid i threw a temper tantrum and hit a soda machine, a rootbeer fell out. only time ive ever "won" something

i think i have bad luck as karma

[craggy wadi]

take your time 🙂
don't put too much pressure either

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[deep geyser]

whatever happend to like soccer?

[steady pewter]

sounds like it was fun.

[craggy wadi]

pardon?

[deep geyser]

yeah sorry i noticed that was confusing a second ago it was meant to imply what about normal competitive activity people do growing up... team sports being an example

[cursive bobcat]

lol

[craggy wadi]

haha yeah i played baseball as a kid. soccer isnt so big where im from

we might get in trouble for calling it "soccer" here. lots of brits and stuff 😆

[cursive bobcat]

its calm

[wraith locust]

I hope lol im taking every thing seriously tbh but i don't know still thinking tbh either 1 lane with intense focus or 2 lanes

[cursive bobcat]

do what aligns with your mental health

if you enjoy 2 and its manageable then its all good

[wraith locust]

hmm yeah im tryna fix it im extremely ambition too

so i need to master time

like its a game for me

[cursive bobcat]

stay disciplined!

thats the main one

[wraith locust]

Yeah i do enjoy both i want to do other stuff 2 but i just found the best 2

[gusty inlet]

I live in the future. Argue with my PC.

[wraith locust]

Maybe cybersecurity as main career and some content creation business on the side

[gusty inlet]

Me patiently waiting to see if THM is going to give away free vouchers for eJPT/Pen+ holders like they did with SAL1.

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[wraith locust]

since i enjoy both but i do also enjoy other things too i don't know whats wrong with my personality lol i have passions for a lot of things but don't manage to do all daily

[cursive bobcat]

i feel you brother

[wraith locust]

Yeah some people have this personality problem, im just trying to focus on 1 or 2 things max

so i can fix it not shit tons of things

[knotty valve]

Same

It's currently 0832

[cursive bobcat]

just stay focused, appreciate what you have and work towards your goals 💪🏼

[steady pewter]

right now it's 20-May-78

[wraith locust]

Yeah 2 things max, I might take a full course on focus tbh 😂

[cursive bobcat]

just buy a ford focus 😎

[deep geyser]

19 or 20

[deep geyser]

in the year 2525

[wraith locust]

Life is kinda harsh on ambitious individuals with many passions not just 1 passion

[cursive bobcat]

life is rollercoaster indeed

make the most of it

yolo

[wraith locust]

Probably u won't sleep and ur mental health will be shit

[cursive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-hide-in-shrubs-hiding-in-bushes-disappear-into-hedges-embarrassed-gif-24183287

[rapid merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821293397166915635/1374103765237633114/image0.gif

👀

[cursive bobcat]

LOL

[next grove]

Back to its former glory. Assembly ain’t so hard anymore.

If you look to your left, some trouble makers are on my sofa.

They’re really hard to rid of.

[cursive bobcat]

bro do you work for USSF

[next grove]

I want to!

[cursive bobcat]

would be cool

i bet its highly competitive right...

[next grove]

Will take some time. BUT! I have my own space station. 🙂

[next grove]

Indeed it is. You need to be sharp.

[cursive bobcat]

what roles are you looking at

[next grove]

You’re making my head spin. It’s too early.

If I wanted to…

Probably a drone pilot.

[cursive bobcat]

haha cool

imagine being equipped with a drone firing machine guns

[shut hawk]

honestly I can't take seeing space force seriously any more after watching the TV series

[rapid merlin]

Horseeeees

Is that a graduation blanket

[sand trench]

merp morps meep moops to the beep boops for the sleep sloops

[plucky ferry]

hi

[mortal ether]

Look no further. This video is all you need to become a cybersecurity rocket network engineer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5so5e_5sfKs

you're welcome

[rapid merlin]

Night

[rapid merlin]

That is how I got my last job. They said “you would get on well with my boss” same hobbies 😆

Vibes

[twin ridge]

🔊 Unmuted barry_fidelis

[rapid merlin]

Oop

😂

[cloud quiver]

@civic remnant Don't try to ping everybody , bot will automatically mute you for that 🙂

[upper knoll]

Congrats on new colour sweet

[wraith locust]

I want to get into the field but want freedom too i don't like being bossed around that what i hate tbh

[rapid merlin]

Oh the job I got wasn’t in this field. I worked in a gadget store

[wraith locust]

Ohh

[rapid merlin]

I played with cars that drove up walls lmao

[wraith locust]

I just don't like to be bossed around tbh lmao

[rapid merlin]

My bosses boss told me to boss him around

[wraith locust]

thats the thing im worried about in this career tbh and freelancing is hard too not as stable as a normal job

[rapid merlin]

He said to me if you see something wrong you better tell him!

😆

[rapid merlin]

Depends, you’re lucky in cyber because you can be in jobs where you work out on calls.

So you can go fix stuff at peoples houses

[wraith locust]

That would be better tbh, i enjoy freedom i don't like routine i think i might run a content creation business beside it

[rapid merlin]

You don’t get that luxury in a lot of jobs. The one thing I hate is doing nothing at work

[wraith locust]

Same tbh

[rapid merlin]

Standing there waiting for the hours to go by. I want to be doing something always

[wraith locust]

Yeah that really suck tbh, boring

[rapid merlin]

On top of that I can’t sit still because of my adhd so I’m pacing 24/7

[wraith locust]

You're right man but do u think this career can provide freedom in a sort of way + stability too

because some jobs provide freedom yeah but not stable at all

[rapid merlin]

It can

Really depends what you go into

[cursive bobcat]

where you from

[rapid merlin]

Well you can’t have it all

😆

[cursive bobcat]

indeed

[wraith locust]

Yeah that kinda sucks

Probably just start my own business then

[cursive bobcat]

go for broke

[rapid merlin]

You either work 9-5 under someone else or you’re freedom will be 5-9 😆 working for yourself

Pick your struggle lmao

[wraith locust]

100% true, even when u start a business its horrible at the start, you work a lot no payouts then luckily one day something pays off

[rapid merlin]

I was working from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep

[cursive bobcat]

im all hacked out now

[wraith locust]

Yeah it gives a shitty mental health too but i think to be fair i will just do both what do u think?

after the 9-5 work on something of my own

[cursive bobcat]

just chill out and have a beer

[rapid merlin]

I say get a stable job until you are earning 40/50K

[knotty valve]

Me when discord doesn't support HEIC format

[cursive bobcat]

lol whats going on 😦

[rapid merlin]

When you’re earning that invest some money. Then when that’s done you can put some money aside to work towards business.

@wraith locust

[wraith locust]

Hmm great strategy

[knotty valve]

They mainly just support the main standard ones: web*, png, jpg, gif, mp4

I believe MP3 may now translate to voice messages

Not sure if that's first or third-party tho

[wraith locust]

I might do that tbh

[cursive bobcat]

damm

[wraith locust]

But probably never quit the 9-5 right?

[rapid merlin]

Not never but you need enough money to make money.

You heard the saying money attracts money.

[wraith locust]

So until the business makes 10x the income of the stable job

[wraith locust]

Yeah definitely

[knotty valve]

Doesn't need to explicitly be 10x, even 1.5x is fine, depending on personal needs

[next grove]

It has April fools in it. Man wtf.

[rapid merlin]

When starting up a business it’s also a waste of time to do things yourself. There are people out there that are trained to advertise, code and everything else. You would need to pay them.

[next grove]

Indeed it is!

[wraith locust]

Hmm alright i guess yeah probably i would love to live a life on my own terms

[wraith locust]

100% true tbh

[cursive bobcat]

cyber security rocket engineer hahaa

[knotty valve]

Tbf this is kinda subjective to the work you do

But I do agree with it as a blanket cover to general business management

[wraith locust]

It depends on the type of the business

[knotty valve]

Yea

That's what I just said lol

In the end, if the business gets enough traction, 100% hire people

Cause screw taking on massive workloads

[wraith locust]

but probably in tech you probably need to hire people mostly if u don't want to do all the hard work

[cursive bobcat]

yeah exactly it depends on the type of marketing tbh

[knotty valve]

Advertising is 100% pay someone else to do, unless you have experience in that a waste of a degree imho

[civic remnant]

Thanks. I learned the hard way. Just got unmuted.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #1 - 4965)

[rapid merlin]

When I did all my side quests I actually did learn everything myself but time is money. It’s much quicker and efficient to hire.

[cursive bobcat]

yeah or you may even have an intelligent way to advertise which you can do yourself

[knotty valve]

I'd personally also say: don't hire friends and family

[civic remnant]

Really?

[knotty valve]

It just makes the workplace hella complicated

[knotty valve]

Marketing is pain

[wraith locust]

You're right and also if u enjoy working out a lot and spending time by yourself too

I usually fail in online business due to time

and focus

i succeed when i focus on 1 thing

[knotty valve]

I used to subcontract as a network engineer for a year or so, and never touched marketing cause it sucks and I don't understand

[mortal ether]

She does seem to work on actual rockets, though. I guess you can also watch Space Force to prepare yourself for the job, the show that Jayy mentioned

Worth a shot

[wraith locust]

I mean if u learn content creation and personal branding it's 100% worth it

[civic remnant]

No man is an island. Division of labour, experience or whatever name given to it, there's more progress with the right team than alone

[knotty valve]

Yea that's what sweet was getting at

[mortal ether]

I'd be careful watching both of them, though. You might be overqualified for the job by the time you are done

[rapid merlin]

I used to be like this, that’s why I quit gaming in the first place.

[wraith locust]

Definitely i need to fix my mindset tbh i usually do everything by myself but i do burnout due to my ambitions

[rapid merlin]

It’s also why I can’t be in a relationship 😆

I can’t focus on more than one thing

[wraith locust]

Yeah im also like this but im trying to learn multi tasking

[cursive bobcat]

maybe its because you are sweet AND salty

[knotty valve]

I can "focus" on multiple things but it burns me out quicker than focusing on one thing

[rapid merlin]

Emphasis on the salty

[wraith locust]

Im like this

[rapid merlin]

It took me ages so good luck

[wraith locust]

yeah i will try to 😂 , focus is my worst enemy and time too

[knotty valve]

There's plenty of time in life

[cursive bobcat]

just try and sing and play keyboard at the same time

[civic remnant]

DIY is a survival skill but team work is a thriving skill. Ambition is good fuel I believe when it's backed up with discipline, there will always be momentum. The burnout is normal just like artists go blank while creating although that's where team work or leveraging makes the difference.

[knotty valve]

Most instruments require learning multitasking tbh

[wraith locust]

If u can manage it well then yeah, i used to rush everything too quite impatient

[rapid merlin]

My mind was a wreck when I played video games. I’m so much less impulsive now and can concentrate better.

[wraith locust]

Good one

[cursive bobcat]

you can do it Samer 🙂

[civic remnant]

Thanks

[wraith locust]

Definitely because ur focusing on more delayed gratification activities

[wraith locust]

Yeah i hope

[rapid merlin]

My addiction was severe

[knotty valve]

This reminded me to check-in with my tattoo artist about working with colour

Ty

[rapid merlin]

I would have had a fight to get to my pc 😂

[knotty valve]

Atp she's not even just an artist, she's basically my mentor 😂

[cursive bobcat]

im loving the vibes tonight

[civic remnant]

Positive vibes

[knotty valve]

Hoping she stays with the palor she's at when I can start my apprenticeship, so I can poke and prod her during work for tips lmao

[cursive bobcat]

are you quitting your job to become a tatoo artist?

[wraith locust]

I feel you i was in the same position 2 years ago. I got over that and now im 20 years old obsessed with power, money and status and im struggling in all aspects of life especially with focus since im ambition with a lot of passions 😂

[knotty valve]

Soon™

But yeah

Leaving cyber at latest, 2030

[cursive bobcat]

you can always become a black hacker part time

lol

[knotty valve]

I'll still be somewhat active in the field per sé

But tattooing is gonna be my main

[rapid merlin]

So I was interested in everything too when I was younger

Now my only interest is stopping evil

[cursive bobcat]

chase your dreams like samer

you only live once guys

[wraith locust]

Thats better tbh, so many scammers out there

[knotty valve]

I've only ever been interested in art, Computers, and medical lmao

[wraith locust]

lol

[knotty valve]

I envy that being interested in everything tbh

[cursive bobcat]

we all have our interests

[rapid merlin]

Yeah but I’ve got a long way to go

[knotty valve]

Though, I do have really weird tidbits of knowledge when it comes to criminal forensics

Which kinda came from my medical work lmao

[wraith locust]

Good luck every single step toward it is worth it 100%. scammers are everywhere

[cursive bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-smile-sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-sherlock-bbc-umm-gif-2955097710309570834

[civic remnant]

That's noble

[rapid merlin]

Yeah I mean I wanna stop worse than scammers

I don’t care too much for them

[knotty valve]

Me during reports

[cursive bobcat]

lool

[knotty valve]

Lazarus my unbeloved

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yawn-gif-26956360

[knotty valve]

Kitty!

[rapid merlin]

But anyways yeah I hate criminals

I can’t stand people that hurt others for no reason.

[wraith locust]

Were u a victim somehow?

[rapid merlin]

They stand on their tails to keep their paws warm 😭

[civic remnant]

Why do people choose deception over sincerity? What could be the real challenge 🤔

[boreal scarab]

Sensitive topic that one.

[knotty valve]

Personal gain

[civic remnant]

You mean greed?

[rapid merlin]

What year are we talking 😂

[knotty valve]

Fun fact about humanity, majority of the stuff we do when supporting another person is actually for our own personal gain, whether it's emotional, monetary, etc.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-morty-and-he4rts-yes-gif-8167277

[wraith locust]

Yeah karma will get them i do believe that what goes around comes 10x back around if done bad

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-giggle-anime-happy-gif-17180898

[wraith locust]

I do believe in universal laws

[zinc seal]

Hi im interested to know why during physical acquisition in digital forensic, not all computers can be dissembled? I tried to search on google but it didnt give me the answer

[civic remnant]

You sound like Robert Greene here

[rapid merlin]

Because they’re plebs

[cursive bobcat]

alot or criminals turn bad due to background

[knotty valve]

Nope, greed can be associated with personal gain, but it's not interchangeable

[wraith locust]

Yeah but why the fuck would they hurt others for no reason

[rapid merlin]

That’s not true. I grew up rough and I don’t have one criminal record. Being a pleb is a choice

[cursive bobcat]

well not all criminals hurt people it depends on the crime

[rapid merlin]

You chose to be a plebasaurous you get the cuffs

😆

[rapid merlin]

Crimes hurt people

It might not be physically but mentally it’s still damaging

[cursive bobcat]

not all crimes hurt people

[knotty valve]

It's not generally for no reason, in most cases they're not after you specifically, but an item or monetary value that's typically replaceable

This isn't to say there's no crimes that aren't intended to hurt someone, but a lot of crimes committed the perpetrators don't actually want to hurt you

[wraith locust]

I think they are selfish people who were wronged before maybe

[oak river]

Is taking the SOC level 1 path going to help me with the Security+ ?

[cursive bobcat]

yes indeed

some people just commit crime because thats all they know

[knotty valve]

Yep

[rapid merlin]

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[wraith locust]

Yeah

[rapid merlin]

🤷‍♀️

[knotty valve]

Some also do it for survival because it's the only way they can eat something at the end of the day

[cursive bobcat]

also

some do it because they are plebs

as salty said

[knotty valve]

Yeah those people are the sucky ones

[rapid merlin]

I’ve had plenty of food vouchers, I’ve crawled into church, gone days without food. I never stole anything.

[knotty valve]

They're not ones where the system failed them, they're just assholes

[rapid merlin]

I will die sinless before I go to prison

[knotty valve]

There are people in worse conditions™

The system didn't fail you

But it failed them

[wraith locust]

They follow the urge for money & status but don't know how to control it

[knotty valve]

There's also those as well

[wraith locust]

Yeah

they lack self control

[knotty valve]

Crime isn't something black and white

[rapid merlin]

I’m not saying it did. I still think crime is a choice

[knotty valve]

And it never will be

[cursive bobcat]

crime is just breaking the law isnt it

[knotty valve]

By definition yes