general

[lament quartz]

Good night

[patent quest]

Oops 😅

Just spend some time with it, also watch some tutorials on youtube and utilize the THM linux fundamentals rooms or modules

[crimson frigate]

The Linux fundamentals rooms made me want to get a Linux OS NGL. It's way less complicated than windows. Or so it seems anyway

[patent quest]

Lol true, it's actually possible to run a Linux and Windows OS on the same PC

That would depend on your PC capabilities and specs anyway

[crimson frigate]

My current PC is so outdated I'm shocked it even turns on half the time 😂

[sick lance]

Oh dear...

This is funny...

https://x.com/reyxbf/status/1920220381681418713?s=61

Rey (@ReyXBF) on X

So LockBit just got pwned ... xD

X · May 7, 2025, 8:53 PM

[patent quest]

Lmao

[knotty valve]

How, why, when

and by who

[sick lance]

7-8 hours ago.

[knotty valve]

Prague apparently

[sick lance]

Hahahaha

[knotty valve]

tonight I be moving from fedora 42 to Void

[crimson frigate]

What is lockbit?

Sorry was*

[knotty valve]

Cybercrime group

I'm genuinely curious on how they got pwned

[crimson frigate]

To quote star wars, there's always a bigger fish

[patent quest]

Interesting right? lol

[knotty valve]

Supposedly it's through a PHP cve from last year

but the exact TTP is currently unknown

CVE-2024-4577 to be exact

[crimson frigate]

Everytime I think I learned a lot today y'all say something I've never seen before

[knotty valve]

You'd think they'd keep their systems up to date if you're running a mass ransomware operation

This is 4Chan level of "why didn't you update it, you idiot"

[slow cloud]

its probably some user error somewhere

[patent quest]

Lol, CVEs are like documented breaches by firms

[knotty valve]

They were running off a myPHP dashboard that had a known exploit, so I'm assuming someone used that to get initial access

[echo wasp]

lol

[slow cloud]

thats also just not smart

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[crimson frigate]

Trying to learn all this stuff is like cosmology all over again 😂 but with less cool nebula pictures

[echo wasp]

they probably messed with a bigger fish's business

[knotty valve]

especially for a crime group, you're main goal is to keep yourself more secure than your targets

[patent quest]

Well, humans can be funny, little dumb mistakes

[patent quest]

Most prolly

[knotty valve]

Waiting to see if this was a continuation of Operation Cronos or not

[echo wasp]

ngl how many big company's have been pwned by a dumb feature where a learner get dumb luck

[knotty valve]

or if this was another group or a security researcher team

[crimson frigate]

Honestly would have been hilarious if they got taken down by a phishing thing. Idk it would seem ironic if that's what happened

[echo wasp]

one of the groups i know of is Ransomhouse

[knotty valve]

Doesn't seem like it by current reports

[echo wasp]

their website is crazy clean

[knotty valve]

Other ransomware groups who have experienced similar leaks include Conti, Black Basta, and Everest.

[patent quest]

You sound like you've had an encounter with them lol

[crimson frigate]

Ice use OSINT for military stuff before, I assume there's a lot for stuff like this too?

[knotty valve]

This is clealy another group who's had enough of them

[crimson frigate]

Sorry my typing is bad I have nails on 😂

[knotty valve]

Nah i get that

[knotty valve]

what shape btw

[echo wasp]

yup, we try to stop attacks when possible aswell but not everything is succesful

[patent quest]

Ikr

[echo wasp]

& 2 clients didn't want to pay and ended up on the ransomhouse ftp server

[knotty valve]

I've had encounters with very small ransom groups in the past, but no big names

[patent quest]

Oboy

[crimson frigate]

Uhhh pointy. I am a guy and my wives put me up to this as I complained about how much they spend on fake nails in a week. So I was challenged to keep all 10 on for a week

[knotty valve]

pointy pointy, or rounded pointy?

if it's like mini daggers, that would be silhouettes, if it's rounded pointy, would most likely be almond

[crimson frigate]

They are kinda almond shaped so probably that

[knotty valve]

Also nothing wrong with guys having acrylic nails, always fun imho

[blissful current]

[knotty valve]

except for the getting them done part

that's boring

[blissful current]

wassup

[crimson frigate]

It has been fun tbh. I feel all sassy when I do things. I get the appeal after 24hra

Learning to type has been the challenge lol

[echo wasp]

okay i'm leaving this chat since were talking about nails, have a good day everyone!

[knotty valve]

lmfao

[sick lance]

Oh I know. 😄

[echo wasp]

srubz is behind this 👀

[crimson frigate]

Lol

[knotty valve]

Someone got fed up with them clearly and it's very funny

[crimson frigate]

Y'all talking about run in with these types of groups sounds all super secret ninja seal team but I imagine it was more of a headache than anything else

[echo wasp]

ngl i've had clients pay the ransom

& the support of these guys is actually top tier

better than some MSP's

[sick lance]

To hack them?

I mean.

If you're using years old exploits....

[echo wasp]

i've went to a cybersec seminar ones & a lawyer was talking about this

[crimson frigate]

So they pay the ransomware guys for their protection? Damn I thought I left the streets 😂 now they just digital.

[echo wasp]

no matter who you are, what you do. don't ask if you'll get hacked. Ask yourself the question when

[echo wasp]

they pay to get their data unlocked & not leaked on their website

[crimson frigate]

😬

[echo wasp]

last ransomware i saw was the .mario encryption

[crimson frigate]

I'm guessing Yoshi wasn't involved in that game

[echo wasp]

every single file is encrypted to a .mario you can't decrypt it

all u can do is pay for the decrypter & key

or hope your back-ups are off-site

[blissful current]

[echo wasp]

& you can find where they were at

[crimson frigate]

Blue team tries to prevent such attacks?

[echo wasp]

so remove them after a full restore

yes

to be honest Training of employees is one of the biggest factors to keep hackers at bay

& keeping the IT enviroment up-to-date & locked down enough

you can't stop it, but you can slow em down alot

[patent quest]

True

[pliant cairn]

Hey Hey people

[echo wasp]

which gives you the chance to close the way they're trying to get in

sup @pliant cairn

[crimson frigate]

I learned that through someone else's mistake at a job once. It's actually how I lean about ethical hacking at a glance. Now I'm here, a complete, under educated noob trying to figure all this out

I'm not even fixing that typo. I live with this shame.

[patent quest]

Training employees cost money, especially when you have a lot of them, some companies drag their feet to do that most of the time but the consequences are even more detrimental

[crimson frigate]

This is why I like the army approach to cyber security. Make the training mandatory or people don't get paid/cant access their workplace tool/etc.

[patent quest]

Humans are literally the weakest links in any network, I mean even a well grounded security expert can be social engineered to fall into a trap

or should I say endpoint devices

[patent quest]

True

[pliant cairn]

well security comes at a cost. whether it be a training or operations

[echo wasp]

we do social engineering here aswell for pentest, full on OSINT on a company

physical pentesting aswell

[pliant cairn]

i have seen companies not have a more than 2 env just cause it's too expensive to have a staging env

[knotty valve]

Enforce the highest level of PERSEC and OPSEC as well

[patent quest]

I'm considering getting an OSINT certification once I'm done with my security+, got any recommendations on where I can get the certification?

[knotty valve]

Cause something may happen one day that could bring harm to yourself or the company, it's better to not be the weak link in the chain, or even have a weak link

[crimson frigate]

I'm curious how OAINT on a company can help with that.

I used OSINT in the Middle East a lot, even on our own guys to make them stop. How does this apply to pen testing or blue team?

The amount of idiots posting publicly to Snapchat with their location on was infuriating tbh

[pliant cairn]

haha

[echo wasp]

check who's in the company, do recon, find out some e-mails to check if you can spoof & phish them. if password leaks are there send them personal e-mails etc

it goes far

[knotty valve]

In the case of Blue Team: It helps identify your attack area and any information that may get left behind
Red team is quite similar, but instead of finding it to cover, you're finding it to get a leverage or find exposed information that could be used maliciously (i.e. internal toolings, person info, yada yada)

[pliant cairn]

this is such a wrong feature in my opinion.

[knotty valve]

That's been my experience in it personally

[slow cloud]

you can find alot of personal information on people which means you can get a better phish

[echo wasp]

yup

[knotty valve]

yep

I'm sure if someone took enough time they could find everything I've tried to hide tbh

[crimson frigate]

Oh I see, check LinkedIn for their email and Facebook for there songs name, mother's name, and their highschool type stuff?

[knotty valve]

Cause I know i didn't get everything and wayback machine may leak some info

[echo wasp]

a picture with their child & name -> Post on facebook which school they go to
-> Boom -> Spoof the school's email & give them a link to a "onedrive" get their credentials after they logged into your fake landing page

[patent quest]

@echo wasp any recommendations?

[echo wasp]

voila got their password

[pliant cairn]

i know about the cookies you hide...

jk

[echo wasp]

alot of people use variations of a password or the same aswell

[knotty valve]

I've seen this happen countless times with facebook, insta, discord, etc.

[patent quest]

Exactly, almost everyone has a bit of information on themselves on the internet

[echo wasp]

need to get them out of the office? spoof a call tell them a family member needs help

OSINT is such an important part of pentesting

[knotty valve]

I'd say it's important for both sides

[slow cloud]

good skill to have in general

[knotty valve]

It's just as valuable to blue team, since you need to know what can and can't go public

[pliant cairn]

not in webapp pentesting. In Webapp pentesting - its just looking at 100 api requests and thousand of ajax calls being made from a single refresh

[knotty valve]

OSINT can be useful in webapp as well

[echo wasp]

ofcourse, but i don't do webapp testing, that's a colleague of mine

[knotty valve]

Account enumeration falls can fall under OSINT

[pliant cairn]

agreed. i was just ranting lol

[knotty valve]

I've reported a few informatives where it's possible to map out users on a service cause of an error message

[crimson frigate]

I guess I did it with people and not computers so to speak. I helped oue Intel guys, who were stuffed in a building where you couldn't have outside electronics, find stuff using mostly X and Snapchat. But we also looked for our own people doing it to shut it down. I guess the real difference is it was to either hit someone with a missile or make sure we plugged an area so we didn't get hit... Comparing it that way kinda makes it click for me.

[pliant cairn]

thats is more than informative imo. Depends on how critical the info leak is tho

[knotty valve]

nothing was leaked other than telling the attacker the email is registered to the service

nothing really major about it, at most it would be info to low imho

if it was leaking extra data medium+

[pliant cairn]

that is still a valid bug low - i would accept if it was me in the BB program 🙂

[knotty valve]

yea it was accepted, but just as informative since it wasn't a major leak of anything

[pliant cairn]

too much bugs everyday. suggest me a game to play. I can't make up my mind on what to play

[knotty valve]

Only time I've been N/A'd on a data exposure was a company saying "leaking our source code to our service isn't critical"

I didn't even report it as critical

[pliant cairn]

lmao ok. its their choice

[knotty valve]

just medium

[crimson frigate]

I've been on oblivion way to much

[pliant cairn]

yeah haven't cared to get it. I had played too much bethesda and obsidian games already

[knotty valve]

Another company would've accepted a similar report but someone else had reported it before me and I got duplicated

Still annoyed at that one

[crimson frigate]

The only other game I play often is war thunder

[pliant cairn]

yeah happens a lot. ppl are just fast.

[knotty valve]

they are

[pliant cairn]

i might give it a try. naver played that

[bleak quartz]

Dead cells

[knotty valve]

better a duplicate report by different people than it not being reported at all

[crimson frigate]

It's grindy but I have a love for WW2 era areail combat

[pliant cairn]

no...not again. i dont want to fall into that path - jk

[pliant cairn]

DCS. you can get trial flights almost all of them

[knotty valve]

that can be very addicting ngl

[blissful current]

200Gigs

[crimson frigate]

I havent played DCS but I have seen really well made videos of the dogfights

[pliant cairn]

btw arc raiders had been going so well. I love that game very much. Can't wait for them to release.

[blissful current]

else go for Warthunder ...DSC Lite lol

[crimson frigate]

What do you do if I can ask

[knotty valve]

For work?

[crimson frigate]

Yes

[pliant cairn]

vtol is good too. i heard

[blissful current]

ya

[knotty valve]

Jr. Security Engineer

[crimson frigate]

I see a fellow DOOM fan

[knotty valve]

Or more so, an internship this time around

[blissful current]

[crystal moss]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/lockbit-ransomware-gang-hacked-victim-negotiations-exposed/

[crimson frigate]

So blue team?

[knotty valve]

yea

[pliant cairn]

ahh shit here we go again

[knotty valve]

started off as red well before I got into the field properly, went blue, and I'm going back into red slowly

[blissful current]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-and-tear-doom-doomguy-isabelle-isabelle-animal-crossing-gif-26156184

[crimson frigate]

I'm still unsure what I want to do. Pen Testing sounds cool af, but blue team just seems... Nice? Idk what word I want lol.

[crimson frigate]

When this came out I was so excited to show my wife bc she was playing that game and I was playing Doom lol

[knotty valve]

there's plenty of time to do both

[blissful current]

damn

[crystal moss]

GreyHat operation or some beef between groups i geuss..

[sick lance]

Lockbit attack isn't grey.

[blissful current]

HaloXDoom Collab is needed (:

[sick lance]

It's black.

[crimson frigate]

I'm only on cyper security 101 right now anyways which I think covers both red and blue team so maybe I'll know for sure when it's done

[knotty valve]

I think they mean the group/person that hit them

[carmine shuttle]

I feel like these lessons are a lot of information, do I need to remember it all or will the information come back later

[sick lance]

It clearly isn't, and such jokes aren't tolerated.

[sick lance]

You need to take notes.

[blissful current]

aight

[crimson frigate]

DoomGuy, Chief, and a whole lot of flood

[blissful current]

YESSS

[sick lance]

This field is massive you won't get far without them

[crystal moss]

It depends a little on how you look at it.. Nobody knows who is behind the attack or the purpose of it. If the purpose is to disrupt them in their activities then it becomes gray..

[blissful current]

Microsoft didnt approve it sedly

[sick lance]

No.

An attack isn't classed by who performed it.

[sick lance]

Disruption of very black hat.

[crimson frigate]

I'm learning new terms again 📝

[sick lance]

To put it bluntly.

Performing an illegal attack on a crime group,. doesn't make it any more legal.

[crystal moss]

I didn't say that either.. I mean that if a group attacks another group that is engaged in hostage/extortion activities with the aim of disrupting their operations to get rid of them, I think all of that is in the gray scale, but of course the attack itself is black because it is not legal if you think so...

[sick lance]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[knotty valve]

Isn't grey specifically someone that operates both maliciously and ethically?
Like they do both

[sick lance]

Doesn't have to be ethical.

[crimson frigate]

I just thought about this bc of what Scrubz said, if X group takes out X group does that hurt the chances or even completely remove the chances, of victims getting there information back?

[crystal moss]

Not saying it's right or wrong, just that I wonder what motivated them, whether it was to be "good guys" who do bad things to do something good or if it was simply another group in the same industry who wanted to ruin it for a competitor.

[knotty valve]

in this case I'm using a pen tester who's hired by a company for their security, but in their downtime will hit a person/group/company for fun/money

[sick lance]

That would illegal.

[knotty valve]

iirc CCC was known for stuff like this

[rapid merlin]

Morning 👋

[knotty valve]

Yes, but they also do legal at the same time as a separate thing
That's what the generalised description of it is

a fence-sitter for all intents and purposes

cause they operate on both sides of legality
Apposed to black which is primarily just illegal work

[crystal moss]

But the border between gray / black is not the legal part but the purpose behind it.. Or have I completely misunderstood it.. So a gray sometimes does black but not with the aim of making money or causing harm but the opposite..??

[sick lance]

A grey hacker would find a flaw in a website/app and ask for money to disclose the vulnerability.

[knotty valve]

grey when doing a black operation doesn't need to be specifically for a reason
Like black, it's for whatever reason they feel like (not all illegal attacks are for money)

it's that they operate on two sides of the coin instead of one

[crimson frigate]

I think this is a philosophical issue. Is the black, grey,etc bc or morality or legality, which often conflict.

[knotty valve]

then almost every VDP is grey hat then

[sick lance]

No, because that's permission.

[knotty valve]

You have the option to disclose three months post-report

without explicit permission

[crystal moss]

this is the defintition in wikipedia: "A grey hat is a computer hacker or computer security expert who may sometimes violate laws or typical ethical standards, but considered not to have the typical malicious intent of a black hat hacker. The term came into use in the late 1990s, and was derived from the concepts of "white hat" and "black hat" hackers."

[knotty valve]

and in most cases you're paid for the report

[knotty valve]

As I said earlier: A fence-sitter

[carmine shuttle]

If I wanna become a pentester what skills should I learn

[sick lance]

Being paid for the report != Asking/demanding for paymentFIRST.

[crimson frigate]

Pen Testing lol. Sry that was my one for the day

[knotty valve]

White hat can request money for a report, because it's their time theyr're putting towards a company

I wouldn't do work for free either

[sick lance]

Than that would be grey.

[carmine shuttle]

What?

[crimson frigate]

I'm doing the pen testing course on THM. It's a learning path that takes you through basics leading into jr pen testing

[knotty valve]

I'm not doing it with malicious intent, lmao
I'm doing it for the benefit of the company

Grey just means someone who operates on both sides, both illegally and legally

requesting money for a report you made isn't illegal, given it's your time you've dedicated

[sick lance]

Doesn't have be malicious "lmao".

[carmine shuttle]

Okay Ill check it, right now Im doing the beginner course but so much information

Someone told me I should learn python or linux

[sick lance]

Python or Linux?

Who told you that.

That's terrible choice.

[crimson frigate]

This is why I said it's a philosophical think. Grey team is your antihero lol. The laws don't matter unless the intentions were righteous so to speak.

At least that's what I'm getting from this conversation.

[carmine shuttle]

Is it really, I think it was someone in here dont remember. What should I learn then

[sick lance]

One is a coding language, the other is an OS.

[crimson frigate]

If ice learned anything in my 36 and a half hours in IT. The learning and inform doesn't stop

[carmine shuttle]

I shouldnt learn them then?

[carmine shuttle]

Yeah, Im a try to review the info everyday

[sick lance]

Oh you should, but either options was stupid to place.

[crystal moss]

Python OR Linux.. Hmm.. strange advice, of curse you should learn both!

[knotty valve]

anti-hero would be black in this case
Cause they'd be actively working against lawfulness

If you operate under malicious intents but also operate under ethical/legal intent (No they don't have to be simultaneous), then it would be classed as fence-sitting (aka. grey hat)

operating explicitly under legal standards would be white

[crimson frigate]

Saying to learn py or Linux is like saying you should learn Spanish or how to make a cake

[knotty valve]

that's the generalised definition, the deeper you go into there's no real definition between any of them other than "Is what you did legal?"

[crimson frigate]

Well, I plan to bc a goody two shoes bc jail is scary lol

[carmine shuttle]

So I should learn both then?

[sick lance]

You should learn python to automate the boring stuff, and Linux for hacking, sure you can use Windows/Mac you'd find it easier in Linux though.

[crimson frigate]

Also take a billion notes. This stuff is way to easy to forget

[knotty valve]

that be the case for most people

[crystal moss]

Then we have Hacktivist... These often also work in white, so these then move in gray...

[knotty valve]

Hacktivist can work purely in black as well

i.e. Anonymous

[sick lance]

I uh, wouldn't say Anonymous was white hats.

[knotty valve]

such an ironic name for how un-anonymous they are

[knotty valve]

I never did

[sick lance]

I never said you did?

[crimson frigate]

I only know of one hacktivisr group and yea everyone knows them lol

[crystal moss]

Of course, they don't have to be angels either...

hehe

hallucinations

[knotty valve]

from everything I've read about most hacktivists
They live in an ivory tower a lot of the time

Much like the C++ committee

[crimson frigate]

I'm too poor to be a cool hacker is all I'm hearing 😂😂😂

Which I definitely am

[knotty valve]

Money doesn't define how good you are at your job

[crystal moss]

doesn't matter.. it doesn't take much to be able to hack, it depends on skills and knowledge, not hardware..

[patent quest]

💯

[crimson frigate]

I hope not bc if it did I'm look at 3¢/h with all I know in this field

[knotty valve]

I mean, if it's cryptography, hardware can matter to some extents

[patent quest]

It's more about the hacker not the tools, 80% the hacker, 20% the tools

[knotty valve]

A lot of the time, you're looking for issues in implementation, or a weakness in the math

[crimson frigate]

I saw cryptography is a lesson coming up for me and I'm not looking forward to it. I'm so bad at those puzzles in the news paper

[patent quest]

Finding it difficult to recognize the currency sign though lol

[knotty valve]

it's cents

I'm assuming they live in australia or a country with a similar currency system

[crimson frigate]

Murica

[patent quest]

Cryptography is like a seperate specilization in Cybersecurity lol cause of its complexities but it's always good to have a good foundational knowledge

[crimson frigate]

3¢ is $0.03

[crystal moss]

Certainly.. But it's not the hardware that's hacking... You can sit on a farm with servers / GPUs but if you don't have the skills to use it, it doesn't matter.. you can do a lot with very little, but of course you can do more with more..

[knotty valve]

Oh they have that there?
Thought you guys used dimes and stuff 😂

no clue how it's displayed in writing tho

[patent quest]

Oh I see

[crimson frigate]

A dime is 10¢

[crystal moss]

Soon we have quantum everywhere.. 😄

[crimson frigate]

Quantum and AI. They won't need us anymore

[knotty valve]

Like the cursed math equation(s) that AES is

[patent quest]

Lmao

[knotty valve]

I still dislike how simple RSA is as a formula

Something just feels wrong about it

[patent quest]

A whole lot of crazy things in cryptography lol

[carmine shuttle]

Where can I learn python?

[crimson frigate]

I need a separate notepad for "Google that later" 😂😂

[patent quest]

Something feels wrong about every formula 😅

[crimson frigate]

I'm using mimo app on my phone tbh but there's pro better sources

[knotty valve]

usually cause there is

And some smart cookie will find the exploit in the math

[crystal moss]

There are already projects that use technology that will become increasingly common and much harder to crack. For example: https://openquantumsafe.org/

[knotty valve]

iirc AES is post-quantum proof

[patent quest]

If they haven't already lol

[knotty valve]

supposedly

[crimson frigate]

We don't even have quantum yet so how does anyone know?

[crystal moss]

Well, we don't know yet.. 😄

[echo wasp]

there is quantum

[knotty valve]

I mean nearly every proposition, NIST employees have found some weird as shit exploit

[crimson frigate]

Schrodinger's Encryption

[crystal moss]

Yes, but not something that we can directly benefit from right now. It's too early.

[knotty valve]

Honestly scares me sometimes lmao

[crimson frigate]

Just ask reddit. Some neck beard that only plays league of legends will call you an idiot while showing you the math lol

[knotty valve]

Alternatively: I can just read the proposals

[patent quest]

Literally a lot scares me these days when it comes tech, you can literally just think of 10 different possibilities when you hear of a new tech innovation

[knotty valve]

I have an alright knowledge of calculus so it's not too difficult

[crimson frigate]

That's seems less fun though. I much prefer being insulted while I'm learning. Lol. Insert basic_training_flaahback here

[patent quest]

It kinda motivates you to not get insulted again lol

[crimson frigate]

All I'm saying is I never forget how to flip the safety clip off the spoon on the grenade again after being told in various colorful how great my mother was for raising me 😂😂😂

[knotty valve]

idk why I had so much trouble understanding that

my brain didn't want to brain

[crimson frigate]

Oh it's bc I can't type

[echo wasp]

what's wrong with league?!

[knotty valve]

That's him officer, he's the league player! /j

[crimson frigate]

And bc the anatomy of a grenade makes no sense. Why is it called a spoon? That makes no sense.

[knotty valve]

"cause it curves like a spoon"

^ some marine probably

[crimson frigate]

There's nothing wrong with league

Just

League players. That are ranked.

I'm googling it now lol

Apparently it resembles a spoon handle

[pliant cairn]

"There is nothing wrong with league"

• WitchDoc

[crimson frigate]

Ayyye DELETE RHAT FOOTAGE

Also I love this suggestion in the search 😂

[pliant cairn]

players of Dota 2, LoL, Valorant and Siege dont get to say there is nothing wrong with the game.

im playing valorant as we speak 🥲

[crimson frigate]

I have played them all 😂

[pliant cairn]

fellow victim. we stay strong together 🙂

[crimson frigate]

I literally only got into LoL for a girl. She said I should play it with her and so I did. 10/10 not worth it 🤣😂

[pliant cairn]

the worst love hate relationship i had was with siege. i can't believe i played that game for so long

[crimson frigate]

Siege was good for a while but then they made so many changes and added all those new characters. I couldn't keep up/didn't want to. It wasn't the same anymore.

[knotty valve]

What

How is 19GB going to take 143hrs

[crimson frigate]

2002 called. They want these connection nac6

OMG

Back*

[knotty valve]

it's transferring betweeen drives

[crimson frigate]

1960 called they want this drive back

[knotty valve]

literally

Maybe I shouldn't clone across my .config lmfao

[crimson frigate]

19GB in 1960 was probably 7 story building

[crimson frigate]

I don't know enough to know what that means

[knotty valve]

nvm it's my librewolf configs

why is there so many files wtf

[crimson frigate]

I have no idea but have you tried pouring coffee on the motherboard?

[wind magnet]

H0la Guys
Go0d M0rning

[blissful current]

(YES) but on a laptop's

||It was an accident xD||

[rapid merlin]

💔💔

Completely fine and working

[crimson frigate]

Oh that's unfortunate 😂

[rapid merlin]

My logitech keyboard has Been trough that so Many times

Yet it still works

[blissful current]

that was like 13-14yrs ago tho

[wind magnet]

ur laptop is crashed?

[blissful current]

ya it died completely ..ofc

[crimson frigate]

I don't drink coffee so I havent experienced this

[blissful current]

Tea?

[crimson frigate]

Occasionally. I don't really use caffeine at all

[blissful current]

just pour water then

[wind magnet]

Sorry about that
try a buy a new

[blissful current]

that happened around 14yrs ago ..dw

[wind magnet]

ohh okay:)

[crimson frigate]

H20 on the food all laptop. Gotta clean up the dust

[knotty valve]

cHaRgE yOuR pHoNe
How about no

charge yourself phone, you're plugged in already

[blissful current]

then dont charge

[crimson frigate]

Battery check 😂

[knotty valve]

nah charging port moment

[wind magnet]

Guys there is any team want a one
i don't in team

[knotty valve]

Need to give it the good clean

Already got my own team, soz

[crimson frigate]

Ah. Just like towel. Port 23 not workin

[knotty valve]

fr

[wind magnet]

i not eating when my laptop i front of me
im i afraid 😂

[crimson frigate]

There was a guy looking for team earlier in here

[wind magnet]

i mean i wanna join in team if there a free position

[crimson frigate]

This one

[blissful current]

u can my team if u r active and wanna join

we have CTFs every week to participate in

[teal niche]

Hello, has anybody having issue with the VPN and the VMs?

[blissful current]

nopes

[knotty valve]

my team and I are waiting for the google ctf atm

[sick lance]

#site-support

[teal niche]

Thank you 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #2 - 3715)

[knotty valve]

Occassionally one of us will go off on HTB for random CTFs

[crimson frigate]

I wanna do CTF but I know I ain't good enough to even attempt it yet

[wind magnet]

Search YouTube bro

[sick lance]

How would that help?

[wind magnet]

im active

[blissful current]

yes , for that we're practicing too (wont win ofc but will learn that way...with more participations)

[teal niche]

No I meant if it's been laggy lmao all good

[wind magnet]

wait i will send you my ac

[blissful current]

can i dm u the CTF team server invite then?

[knotty valve]

I'm waiting for confirmation from our malware analyst if she's joining it or not lmao

[teal niche]

BTW, i felt the same way couple of weeks ago, trust me it's much better to try to do CTF and even do it with writeups, you'll learn much more than just doing the rooms

[wind magnet]

yeh sure

[blissful current]

Pro

[round onyx]

we gonna be a 3 or 4 man team?

[crimson frigate]

Just go for it huh?

[knotty valve]

yea

[round onyx]

aye nice

[knotty valve]

We've got Joe potentially joining us iirc

[round onyx]

don't have to smash my head against a wall figuring shit out as much

[knotty valve]

Yeah 😂

[teal niche]

Yeah, start with the super easy one, the 5 mins ones, it will get you going

[crimson frigate]

I love your display name lol

[crimson frigate]

Ya know what. I will. Can't hurt I don't think

[knotty valve]

You mean like the crypto challenge in the HTB CTF

[teal niche]

Start slow, build some knowledge and if needed refer to the writeups, even to unblock, and just try stuff. It works

[round onyx]

yes :|

[crimson frigate]

Thank you for the encouragement

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @teal niche (current: #2861 - 1)

[knotty valve]

Did I ever tell you the solve for it?

[round onyx]

don't remember actually

[knotty valve]

it was a semi-obscure hash collision
It was mainly only obscure if you misread the code

I only figured it out cause I was messing around with foundry 😂

that and I saw a writeup on something similar

[knotty valve]

feel free to checkout ctftimes for some of the low weight CTFs that get put up for public

[round onyx]

thanks someone in a different server granted me this title

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @crimson frigate (current: #1872 - 2)

[knotty valve]

😂

[blissful current]

ello zonbi-san

[crimson frigate]

.org?

[knotty valve]

I believe so

[crimson frigate]

It's fantastic TBH

[crimson frigate]

Thanks. Whenever I fall asleep I'll check it out after I wake up again.

[round onyx]

took a peep in my github account huh?

[blissful current]

[round onyx]

honestly rn its just a bunch of random repo's

[knotty valve]

What mine is like rn tbh

I gotta finish the natsec API eventually

Haven't had time to

[blissful current]

i dont even use that shit since i dont have anything to Open sourcely post there lol...mine is dead too

[crimson frigate]

I tried to use a code from there to bypass some courses but it didn't work

Also, totally being nosey. What's with the hex codes

[round onyx]

put them into a color picker and see what you get

[knotty valve]

bi flag?

@sick lance Scam post

[crimson frigate]

Pink, idk cuz I'm colorblind and can't tell if it's grey or purple, and blue

[round onyx]

yep

[knotty valve]

what a guess

lmfao

[blissful current]

[crimson frigate]

Neat

[hearty otter]

Some people can breathe

That's crazy

[crimson frigate]

It's fun seeing all the mutual servers

[hearty otter]

Such a talent

[knotty valve]

[grim sparrow]

Done!

[crimson frigate]

I look away for two seconds

[knotty valve]

ikr

I was hoping they'd send a link so I could report it to a registrar

[crimson frigate]

I didn't even see what happened tbh. I sent my last then looked in room help and comeback and someone gets banned lol

[sick lance]

Looks like they want to buy accounts, so they won't need a website as such.

[knotty valve]

yeah

they'd probably send some sketchy website for you to do a "transfer" through or smthn

[crimson frigate]

Amazon but the second a looks a little too Cyrillic

[knotty valve]

Not reCaptcha taking several years to figure out if i'm a human or not

[cerulean aurora]

how can i fix this?

[echo sentinel]

Can you restart the VM?

[cerulean aurora]

yes i can

[cerulean aurora]

after restarting it is the same

[echo sentinel]

Do you have any logs maybe?

[cerulean aurora]

sorry i didn't get which logs ur refering here

[slow cloud]

is it a fresh install?

can you give more context

is this the first time this has come up? when does it come up

[molten sonnet]

Guys if I wana build up my skill, is it recommended to just go on tryhackme and do a lot of rooms? Or is there something better like doing projects?

[echo sentinel]

Do some tryhackme walkthrough rooms, then some challenges and whenever you have an idea for a project - do it as well

[molten sonnet]

Ok I’ll start with tryhackme then, thank you!

[rapid merlin]

My mum didn’t hear from me for a few hours and she’s told everyone I might be dead. Now I’m back to haunt them 😆

[blissful current]

LOL

[tepid citrus]

Anyone here actively using SentinelOne ?

[forest willow]

Bro who gonna use that these days

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/hover-jaypopchannel-streamer-halloween-twitch-gif-9846006365217089230

[queen flare]

[knotty valve]

why would she think that 😂

[cerulean aurora]

no i have been using this since very long but this happens suddenly

[rapid merlin]

😌 because someone wants me dead 😂

[cerulean aurora]

n i hvae my imp files in it

[rapid merlin]

My sister calls me and I’m like “Audacity…I’m not that easy to kill😒”

She agrees

[dark grove]

sorry I missed the webinar session can I know where can I watch the recording ?

[echo sentinel]

click on hamburger menu next to your vm and inspect logs there

[rapid merlin]

I can’t wait to get my bits for my build. Hope they work because returns gonna be a hassle

[blissful current]

[rapid merlin]

I hope I didn’t forget anything

[boreal gull]

good luck!!!!

[blissful current]

[rapid merlin]

Has anyone seen their Minecraft blocks, the magnet ones

[blissful current]

some new update material?

[rapid merlin]

They’re like real life blocks

You can get them from the shops and then you can build them like Lego

[blissful current]

last i played was over a year ago ...i usually stay back 1-2 versions back since the latest doesnt always contain the OptiFine & Forge

[rapid merlin]

Yeah that’s the actual game. My daughter plays it, she loves it. I’m going to buy her some blocks for her to play with in the real world. They connect like magnets, super cool.

[blissful current]

oh ok u meant the Minecraft toys thing ..nice nice

[knotty valve]

Lego x Minecraft frfr

[blissful current]

Ya lol

[rapid merlin]

Yes, that’s what I mean.

So cool. Ngl might build something myself

[bleak quartz]

Wasn't that already a thing ages ago?

[blissful current]

i have seen them too , its cool

[bleak quartz]

Like 8 years ago or sum

[knotty valve]

I think so, would have been with the Console release

[blissful current]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid merlin]

Not sure how old they are but they’ve been advertised a lot recently

[bleak quartz]

Ofc cuz the movie popped off

[rapid merlin]

She’s going to love them

[rapid merlin]

We watched it the other day too

[bleak quartz]

They're just trying to make money off the new highs

[knotty valve]

Oh you've got to be shitting me

[rapid merlin]

LA LA LA LAVAAA CHI CHI CHICKENNNN

That’s all I hear all day 😅

[knotty valve]

scanning the VM for the room has frozen nmap

[bleak quartz]

I've seen it too lmao

[knotty valve]

how is that even possible 😭

[blissful current]

😆

[rapid merlin]

Also Maccies did Minecraft toys and they were cute

[bleak quartz]

The obsidian being broken by an explosion still annoys me

[blissful snow]

I think people where by passing the filter with that I'm gonna see today i didn't go yesterday.

[knotty valve]

I remember when you couldn't mine obsidian

[rapid merlin]

It’s is cute 🥹

[knotty valve]

Is bedrock still impossible to mine? Without going into creative that is

[rapid merlin]

I dunno

I personally don’t really play, she does all the mining

[blissful current]

yes

[knotty valve]

I haven't played since uhhh....

whenever it was released

[blissful current]

atleast not till last year

[rapid merlin]

I haven’t played any computer games since I turned 30

[blissful current]

havent tried this year

[blissful current]

how old r u now , if i may ask?

[rapid merlin]

31

[blissful current]

cool

[rapid merlin]

I played video games for twenty odd years though

Maybe even longer

[blissful current]

gaming has no age limit

[cerulean aurora]

wer whihc side?

[rapid merlin]

It was about time for me to quit

[chilly veldt]

and now I can relax

just finished setting up my whole network

[rapid merlin]

What was ya up to

[blissful current]

ello

[chilly veldt]

just finished configuring this

[knotty valve]

Ah yes

the networking amalgamations

[sick lance]

I still play games now.

[knotty valve]

I remember having very cursed topologies

[rapid merlin]

Nice, I downloaded Ciscos one last night.

[chilly veldt]

Collapsed core network

[sick lance]

Packet tracer?

[knotty valve]

PT is nice

until you need to simulate things

[chilly veldt]

just hoping that I don't need to test my HSRP

[slow cloud]

pt is niceeeee

[rapid merlin]

Yes so I could figure out how to set up my network

[sick lance]

Gns3 is better

[knotty valve]

it's great for when you're doing topologies and basic network configs
GNS is better for emulation

[rapid merlin]

Hold up I need to take notes 😅

[chilly veldt]

GNS3 is only better if you have the IOS files 😛

[knotty valve]

that too

[chilly veldt]

and those are expensive

[knotty valve]

Cisco doesn't like to hand those out too often

[knotty valve]

I get them for "free"

[chilly veldt]

me too, through school xD

[knotty valve]

aka, I pay them yearly for my licenses to their stuff

to only use ISR routers

[chilly veldt]

I get free vmware and cisco products

[rapid merlin]

So Cisco is the cheaper option is what I heard

[chilly veldt]

packet tracer, yes

[knotty valve]

For what part

The hardware? definitely not

[rapid merlin]

My cat is sunbathing like a cutie. He’s resting his foot on my shoulder, draped over the chair.

[blissful current]

[rapid merlin]

Nah not the hardware but I just want to see where things go.

[rapid merlin]

He turned around and tagged me 😂

[blissful current]

😂

[rapid merlin]

Directly after I called him a parrot

[blissful current]

orange activities

[rapid merlin]

Yep, that’s the one 😆

[blissful current]

i am remained with 2 cats for now the orange one i had shown and her 1yo kitten
and they dont like each other anymore 💀

coz the orange one is very greedy for food and the gray one (the kitten) inspite giving food separately would try to steal her food too ...and she(orange) hates it😂

[knotty valve]

Almost jumped two levels in a single night again

[blissful current]

[gusty inlet]

This cactus actually looks like a pickle.

[sick lance]

Cooctas clan.

[blissful current]

[gusty inlet]

I cannot unsee it.

[blissful current]

need to put detergent in the eyes now

[rapid merlin]

Yeah mines pretty hyper still at six month. He’s my son 😆

Hes so adorable too, he’s very loving.

[blissful current]

😺🐈

[blissful current]

These are my previous kitties ...one time I was searching for them and later found them sleeping inside a basket 🧺 lol

[knotty valve]

I think my internet has told me "enough THM"

[rapid merlin]

Here’s mine plotting the attack

We build him forts sometimes

[rapid merlin]

What’s happened 🫣

[knotty valve]

it dropped out randomly

[rapid merlin]

Oh 🤔

Mine drops all day

I wonder what that could be ~ Sarcasm

[rain river]

So it’s not only me

[rapid merlin]

I meant my internet

Not thm

Who could've guessed the hard rooms are actually hard 💔

[knotty valve]

It was my internet lol

[rapid merlin]

My reversing skills are nonexistent

[knotty valve]

has nothing to do with THM

[sick lance]

Wait until you get to insanse.

[rapid merlin]

Oh no

[knotty valve]

Same

[rain river]

Optus?

[knotty valve]

no

[rapid merlin]

The hard rooms are hard yeah

[zinc seal]

anyone here knows any powershell script de-obfuscator online?

[rapid merlin]

The difficulty increase is insane :D

From easy and medium challenges

[knotty valve]

I found one of the hard rooms pretty alright tbh

[rapid merlin]

Which one?

I tried the anonymous one

got the first flag but got stuck on the binary

[knotty valve]

request smuggling

[rapid merlin]

Deciding if I want to dress like a Women or not today.

[knotty valve]

dress like an absolute goblin

[rapid merlin]

🤔

I dont care how i dress honestly

[knotty valve]

that's what I'm doing tomorrow

[rapid merlin]

i just take whatever i find in the closet

unless i go to something imporant

[knotty valve]

same 😂

[rapid merlin]

like my graduation party soon

😭

[rapid merlin]

I had a frog hat on last night 😂

[knotty valve]

unless I'm going out to play pool or something

then I dress nicely

[rapid merlin]

I’ve never played pool

I have never played pool

if we dont count the mobile game

Finnish music is so good

yall dont even know

[rapid merlin]

Found a goblin top 😆 covered in cat hair

I need some tryhackme merch

But im broke

💀

[rapid merlin]

Wait for an event where you can win one

[sick lance]

I give codes away from time to time, keep an eye out.

[rapid merlin]

👀

[dark mason]

Can you ping me next time???

[rapid merlin]

I could honestly take a hoodie

[sick lance]

No. 🙂

I make it fair.

[rapid merlin]

:(

woah

300 points for that

😭

btw

I keep getting this badge

Ive gotten this like 7 times

[knotty valve]

Same

[blissful current]

🐈

[knotty valve]

I find it kinda amusing to get

[dark mason]

Then do @ everyone :))))

[sick lance]

I don't think Jabba would appreciate that, as I'm exempt. 😛

[blissful current]

lol

[rapid merlin]

😭

[blissful current]

damn

[sick lance]

This badge won't come round again.

[rapid merlin]

Im flexing it

I know

😭

[blissful current]

[rapid merlin]

[sick lance]

I'm hoping to get a bug confirmed today. 🤞

[rapid merlin]

you can report it to me

[knotty valve]

I think I've set my place in the silver league well enough 😂

[sick lance]

That would not be responsible disclosure.

[rapid merlin]

:)

[knotty valve]

I forget leagues are auto-joined after a few rooms

[blissful current]

ya

[blissful snow]

New pfp

yo

[knotty valve]

Well that's the acc updated

[blissful current]

nice cat

[blissful snow]

thanks

[knotty valve]

Back to jumping two levels randomly in a night or two cause I have nothing better to do rn

[blissful current]

im gonna end up unemployed

[knotty valve]

More time to do THM /j

[blissful current]

indeed thats what i hv been doing for last 2 months

even rn

[blissful snow]

What do you think your gonna be unemployed?

[knotty valve]

iiii almost pressed the delete acc button on accident

[blissful snow]

Howwwwww.

[knotty valve]

There's only 7% left

and I'm too lazy to finish it tn

[rapid merlin]

😭

Most of my time on jr pen tester

was on burpsuite

[knotty valve]

lmfao

Most of my time tonight was spent on Net Sec

cause I kept crashing nmap

and idk how

[blissful current]

country's unemployment rate is increasing
half of the time job posts are fake/they take tons of interviews and technical rounds and then dont update , wasting students and fresher's and even some senior role peeps time
no innovation apart from delivering daily needs at home anywhere within 10 min hence some soft engg are ending up being delivery boys ... (AS FULL TIME )

[blissful snow]

Most of my time was trynig to figure out how an i get a sub lol.

[blissful current]

biggest issue of all : Over Crowded

[rapid merlin]

😭

Biggest issue for me finding a job

is that im not 18 yet

But i'll be working in the military cyber security division

[blissful snow]

17c?

[blissful current]

1 job post opening - 13465 applicants

and the job was for a Peon in a college/school

[rapid merlin]

Im 17

I turn 18 in december

26

💀

[blissful snow]

OH no I meant what in the military

[blissful current]

if u r not from india ...u dont have to worry much

[blissful snow]

lol

[rapid merlin]

Ohh 😭

[blissful snow]

I'm turn 17 this year

[rapid merlin]

In Finland

Its kybervarusmies

Special forces

I already got the letter from the military

[knotty valve]

Cyber Analyst, Network, Comms? what part of it specifically

[rapid merlin]

Just have to wait a few months

[blissful snow]

I used to have a friend in finland

[rapid merlin]

Not really sure yet what is available

Theres like tons of different things

Even AI

But most likely analyst

Blue team

[knotty valve]

No military just has one "division" for cyber, it's split out across multiple sectors since it's a specialty

[rapid merlin]

System administration

Im not sure if its the same here

I havent yet looked into it that much

Theres the application process first

[knotty valve]

The role name will vary, but pretty much all the training you go through is very specific to a certain enrollment

i.e. Communications Security learn SATCOM and Radio
Network will learn SATCOM, Radio, and baseline to intermediate network engineering
Communications Intelligence varies again, etc.

[blissful current]

i dont have any sort of Income source thats the problem , dont wanna be dependent on parents ...thats what stressing me out rn

(there is no part time culture here either , unless u wanna become a Street vendor on the road side or sit in a small local general store...and perhaps that would be full time)

Most remote Online side hustle platforms are also not available in the country

[knotty valve]

oof

[faint ruin]

Can anyone tell me how can I open virtual box extension pack in virtual box

[sick lance]

Download and install.

[faint ruin]

It's downloading like a browser file

[sick lance]

Yes, it will be on your computer where you download it.

Double click it.

[faint ruin]

I did it open in browser and whenever try to open it from browser it's downloading again and again

[knotty valve]

To install it:
Main Virtualbox window > File menu > Tools popout menu > Extension Pack Manager > Install button > Open the EP file > accept the license > Installed!

courtesy to the VirtualBox forums for that answer

[faint ruin]

Ok

[vestal bone]

When you are bored in class

Playing chess on paper

[knotty valve]

Genius

[vestal bone]

And yes I know my handwritting is shit

[slow cloud]

So is mine, if i can type it i type it

[glacial vine]

guys i have a question, is this a bug or i am doing something wrong whenever I launch VM cannot type certain letters in my terminal like if I type "ls" it only type "s" and when I type 'h' it opens up a new tab in the browser and i use chrome

I have to write in the clipboard and past my command

[slow cloud]

are you using the attackbox or your own vm?

[glacial vine]

attackbox

[sick lance]

#site-support

[twin ridge]

🔊 Unmuted abdenour_amr

[glacial vine]

ok

[mossy river]

Sure

[sick lance]

👀

[boreal scarab]

Relax, it's for THM lol

[urban sorrel]

Is there any advice for computer science students for future studies or what to do next or any advice for computer science student that want to stick in one thing in the filed and don t kown what is it and how to choose one thing

[vestal bone]

The teacher probably think it’s an old lost language when he read my exam paper

[sick lance]

Oh, I'm waiting on a message from Jabba, and now he hides offline so it's hard to say when he is here.

[blissful current]

https://tenor.com/view/real-life-batman-gif-18344577568836981509

batman

[boreal scarab]

Ahhhhh

[mossy river]

Offline because I get a lot of DMs outside of work with users complaining I’m not responding to then when I’m super busy lol

As much as I would love to get around to everyone, I am also a full time University student in their final term

[sick lance]

People just be impatient.

[slow cloud]

hieroglyphs

[mossy river]

I’ll be back later when I start work 👋

[blissful snow]

What if we all find you and come ask you questions /j

[mossy river]

You’ll have to get past my 400 body guards first

[sick lance]

Offer a case of Redbull.

[blissful snow]

That's why I'm immortal

[blissful snow]

I actually never had redbull

What does it taste like?

[urban sorrel]

Is there any advice for computer science students for future studies or what to do next or any advice for computer science student that want to stick in one thing in the filed and don t kown what is it and how to choose one thing

[blissful snow]

Try this career quiz

Also just try out different topics and find out what you like the most.

[stray arch]

Can I contact you privately?

[slow cloud]

Depends on what its about

[stray arch]

about the Cybersecurity

[slow cloud]

Well if its about cybersecurity i dont see the reason you have to dm me since there are more knowledgable people around here

and if you put it here more people can help you

[wraith tusk]

пью

[slow cloud]

but you can dm if you want

[stray arch]

ok thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @slow cloud (current: #136 - 61)

[blissful current]

[sick lance]

So, uh...

Lockbit stored their passwords in plain text?

[wraith tusk]

huh?

[blissful snow]

.

[queen flare]

[wraith tusk]

75h on 16 percents

[blissful snow]

It glitched lol

[hallow hazel]

no way..

[blissful snow]

Oh wait I thought you were asking

[mossy river]

Has kind of a weak bubble gum flavour

[hallow hazel]

I mean it depends what kind of red bull flavour we talking bout here

[wraith tusk]

red bull purple favor imo

[mossy river]

I was talking about original

Usually the other flavours tell you what it tastes like 😄

[wraith tusk]

ohh xd

saying about original it is a bit sour

[blissful snow]

ew

I never seen different flavours

[hallow hazel]

I wouldn't say it tastes like bubble gum or a weak bubble gum flavour

It's quite difficult to describe tho 😄

[blissful snow]

Well every taste buds are different.

[hallow hazel]

it doesn't make such a big difference just because our taste buds differ

but I love the cactus and iced gummy bear variants.

[blissful snow]

That sounds like it hurts.

[knotty valve]

Lmao

[wraith tusk]

oh, wssup

[slow cloud]

water > monster energy > redbull

[blissful snow]

water is monster energy

[knotty valve]

Other way around

[slow cloud]

redbull just isnt that great

[wraith tusk]

redbull is great as a boost

[blissful snow]

5 hour energy?

[slow cloud]

i can get a better energy drink for like half the price

[knotty valve]

Took sleepyby meds now to wait

[slow cloud]

then redbull

[blissful snow]

Well not as a boost just bring it up.

[wraith tusk]

not that much, 3 hours

[knotty valve]

Red bull costs the same as V, Mother, and Monster here

[blissful snow]

lol

[blissful snow]

hear of Venom

[slow cloud]

here redbull is "expensive"

[blissful snow]

their like 0.99 cent

[knotty valve]

Don't think anywhere sells it

[slow cloud]

its not but i think it is

[mossy river]

As someone who has had a lot of off brand energy drinks, I do think Redbull tastes better

However monster is much better value in terms of cost and size

[knotty valve]

When I was a nurse, we used to have what you'd call "Bangs"

[blissful snow]

Ah I hardly see them where I'm at too.

[slow cloud]

red bull is 1 euro 69 cents

[blissful snow]

Bang enery drinks?

[knotty valve]

Energy drinks so full of caffeine and sugar it would occasionally give you heart palpitations

[blissful snow]

dangg

[wraith tusk]

+, but i preffer redbull only because taste and a bit of "boost", other energy drinks aint giving this feeling to me

[slow cloud]

i usually go for the zero ones

[mossy river]

This^^

[mossy river]

Just means my “heart skips a beat” pickup line isn’t entirely false /s

[knotty valve]

Lollll

[blissful snow]

loool

[mossy river]

If I could go back and not drink energy drinks ever I would

[slow cloud]

sameee

[wraith tusk]

i don't love energy drinks but as a student i can't live without them

[blissful snow]

Is it like addictive ??

[mossy river]

Yes

[slow cloud]

at some point in time i drank 4 monsters a day

[knotty valve]

My dopamine levels are too haywire for caffeine to really do much

[blissful snow]

Ah never knew that.

[knotty valve]

Caffeine is a drug, it's also addictive, it's also in nearly every energy drink

[hallow hazel]

Why, I'd keep drinking xD

[blissful snow]

Yeah I love caffeine but I some how avoid energy drinks.

[blissful current]

i cant even afford one , so i dont drink (:

[blissful snow]

brb

[hallow hazel]

It's also in coffee, which a very large population of the entire world consume

[wraith tusk]

same, so i am not getting addicted to it that much, but as sleepy ass at morning i prefer to drink it to not fall asleep in College

[knotty valve]

Coffee is just caffeine with milk occasionally

[mossy river]

I’d rather not be addicted to something so bad for you

[mossy river]

Caffeine in coffee is very minimal, but what’s great about coffee is it isn’t nearly as harmful as what you’d find in your energy drinks

[knotty valve]

Depends!

[hallow hazel]

It's not minimal at all

[knotty valve]

Very much depends on the blend and how it was roasted

[hallow hazel]

A lot of the coffee that people consume are even higher amounts than energy drinks

[knotty valve]

And how it was filtered

[mossy river]

Source?

[mossy river]

If you’re referring to caffeine, yes you are correct

[knotty valve]

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/spilling-beans-how-much-caffeine-too-much

[wraith tusk]

what about tea guys

[mossy river]

If you’re referring to other chemicals what on earth are you doung to your coffee Ashlynn

[ebon prawn]

Which linux is best to use Parrot or Arch ?

[hallow hazel]

I mean there are tons of sources, but it's generally that way.

[wraith tusk]

Arch btw 🤌

[blissful snow]

I'm back

[knotty valve]

For a darkly roasted beans (let's assume an Arabic blend) there should be about 5mg of caffeine per 10ml

[blissful snow]

It depends

[knotty valve]

A standard shot of coffee varies between 10-20ml

[blissful snow]

https://tenor.com/view/debian-penguinbyte-arch-linux-winner-gif-15851855656801001960

[ebon prawn]

What makes Arch different from Parrot ?

[knotty valve]

But most cafes and commerical coffee machines will use 10ml afaik

[mossy river]

How applicable is this to non-US countries? Genuine question, not trying to be picky lmao

[knotty valve]

The same across board

[naive violet]

Your numbers don't tie up.
A shot of espresso is around 45-90

[ebon prawn]

Such as ?

[knotty valve]

Depends heavily on beans and how it's done

[mossy river]

I’m interested in reading more though 😄

[naive violet]

We usually don't brew filter in the same way

[blissful snow]

I gotta start sharing this to my friends

[wraith tusk]

arch is a bit more individual, and parrot is a copycat of kali with a bit of tools and less quality feel

[slow cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-arch-linux-gif-25380879

[blissful snow]

For me I like debian because If I want to distro hop I can do it was an easy

i do it alot

[knotty valve]

Maybe in America where they use lighter roasts or weaker beans, yes

[blissful snow]

also If I wanna boot something else into linux .

Also i started off on it and I wanna stick with it

[naive violet]

I was working off the pure numbers in your statement, unless the volumes you specified aren't brewed coffee

[knotty valve]

But if you read my scope before, I did say specifically dark roast

Not a medium or light roast

[naive violet]

America is historically dark dark dark burnt roasts

[naive violet]

5x2 =10
Way low.

[ebon prawn]

Well, thank you for the information.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wraith tusk (current: #1418 - 3)

[sick lance]

Whichever one you can use to the best of your ability.

[dark mason]

Math functions suck.

[hallow hazel]

Well, you didn't link any sources either, I don't look at this as a battle of who links more sources. I'm sure there are many to both. I just don't see why you think energy drinks are so bad for you. Is it only because of caffeine or the amount of sugar or both combined? Which exact chemicals do you think are this bad that you shouldn't consume it?

[rapid merlin]

That is crazyyyy

[blissful snow]

Yeah' that's why I use kali/parrot in a vm so blooted.

[pallid lotus]

Also, that's rich coming from you Jabba 🤣

[ebon prawn]

Just deciding whom to chose between Arch/Parrot

[mossy river]

I only asked for your source so I could read more about it, I apologise 😓

[slow cloud]

if you wanna look like that guy and be a gigachad, arch

and then you can tell everyone you know that you use arch

pretty cool

[ebon prawn]

Hmm ok, thank you sir.

[wraith tusk]

anyways clean kali with your own installed tools are better than parrot with everything preinstalled, maybe parrot better for start but imo not

[sick lance]

I use Kali for ease.

I've started using exegol though, which is just a wrapper with tools.

[blissful snow]

I'm on kali rn

[ebon prawn]

Will have a try and thank you

[knotty valve]

I always found Kali, Parrot, and even the Fedora Security Suite to have too much preinstalled

[wraith tusk]

XDD

[bleak quartz]

Peak.

[hallow hazel]

Alright, I understand 🙂

[wraith tusk]

talkin about all of them, parrot is the most bloatware xd

[bleak quartz]

@hallow hazel Heres the source

[mint palm]

What are you even talking about… The roast profile doesn’t really change how much caffeine is in the coffee

[knotty valve]

Personally found Kali to be worse, but I haven't use either parrot or Kali in years

[slow cloud]

for my usage kali with the tools was fine

alot of stuff i didnt touch tho

[dark mason]

Should I buy?

[wraith tusk]

kali is just more complicated

[bleak quartz]

Imagine taking this at 3am on a holiday

[slow cloud]

do you have experience? otherwise id buy a loose kit

loose is easier imo

[dark mason]

Yes

[knotty valve]

Eh not really

[wraith tusk]

imo

[knotty valve]

They're both on the same level

[slow cloud]

then i mean sure

[ebon prawn]

"Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. As someone just starting out, it kinda feels like Kali, Parrot, and Fedora Security Suite throw everything at you upfront. It’s like walking into a workshop where every tool ever made is lying around, and you’re just trying to build a birdhouse

I haven’t tried Debian or Arch yet, but sometimes I wonder if starting from something minimal and manually adding the tools I actually need would teach me more. Like… instead of just having Metasploit or Burp preinstalled, going through the process of setting them up might help me really understand what’s under the hood.

Do you think using these lightweight setups helps build better habits early on? Or is it okay to start with the heavy stuff and then slowly peel it back?"

[bleak quartz]

Why did u put quotes

[knotty valve]

Llm translator probably