general

[pearl kindle]

but.... can it run crysis?!

[sinful moon]

Meanwhile here's where my 486DX2 66Mhz (emulated) machine is at right now c:

[pearl kindle]

lol without 8800GTx good luck

[sand trench]

if crysis runs on linux shadows computer might be able to run it

[pearl kindle]

it's real hardware core 2 duo

[sinful moon]

lol I can't even answer that question for your Core 2 Duo without more info. Either way that's both getting really far into the 00s and I doubt it would be a pleasurable experience

[pearl kindle]

there's no dedicated gc in them rip

it was a joke at first

[sinful moon]

lol you can technically run it, but will it be performant? Probably not

[pearl kindle]

can it run crysis was a serious meme back in 2007-2008

[sinful moon]

I saw someone run Crysis on a maxed out dual Pentium III server which was wild

and it certantly ran lol

[pearl kindle]

yeah like 10fps?

[sinful moon]

I think they were getting at least a cinematic 24fps experience on the lowest settings so far far better than expected

[pearl kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[sinful moon]

Yeah I'd have to look up a conversation from two+ years ago to even check though lol

that 60fps gif is actually very nice though... but raises some questions because it's spedup as a result lol

[pearl kindle]

lmao

[sinful moon]

American Psycho should be a literally cinematic 24fps

[pearl kindle]

it's one of my top 10

didnt watch a lot of movies

[sinful moon]

Mhmm great film, just showed it to a friend for her first time the other day

[grizzled wing]

never watched it

[pearl kindle]

you should

[sinful moon]

I can highly recommend it

[pearl kindle]

a lot of cultural references

[shut hawk]

why does this gif feel weird

[pearl kindle]

"i got to return some videotapes"

[grizzled wing]

i did watch a video about what the film represents

[pearl kindle]

impressive, very nice

[sinful moon]

spoilers :c

[pearl kindle]

read the book it's better tbh

[sinful moon]

60fps as I said when it should be 24

[pearl kindle]

but the movie is good

[grizzled wing]

how am i to answer room questions when the stupid log file wont load?

[pearl kindle]

ask AI

[grizzled wing]

haha

[pearl kindle]

fk sorry i got to stop

[shut hawk]

Ah didn't spot your message lol

[sinful moon]

It's not interpolated either, although that would probably look weird as well

so it's just sped up

[grizzled wing]

i can open the error.log in notepad but not in the app

[pearl kindle]

it's like watching AoT in 60fps f

not the same vibe at all lmao

[sinful moon]

real ballers use edit.exe

[pearl kindle]

removes the dramatic effect

[sand trench]

ZZzzZzZzZZZZZZzZzZzZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZzZzZz meep moop to beep boop while sleep sloops time

[sinful moon]

I hope you're kidding

[sinful moon]

G'Night Shadow!

TV frame interpolation is gross and evil, it's mainly designed for like sports broadcasts

[pearl kindle]

ask AI

omg sorry

[grizzled wing]

i will keep that in mind

[pearl kindle]

ffs i g2 stop

[sinful moon]

lol wouldn't even work in 64bit Windows, I'm half being silly

[shut hawk]

The artificial idiot does have its uses tbh

[sinful moon]

edit is the QBasic editor broken out to be its own text editor, which is the main on DOS 5.0 and above

[shut hawk]

Just gotta be aware of the limits

[pearl kindle]

nothing better than an ig story

[sinful moon]

While I was being silly about going hard on this being awful, it kind of is. I highly recommend turning off frame interpolation off on your TV if you have it on. Especially for 2D animation which I believe you're referring to

[dense grove]

Yeah 😂👍🏻

[pearl kindle]

I will

[sinful moon]

It wrecks the intended vision and purpose of the movie or show

good stuff

[wooden totem]

4 minutes early

[dense grove]

Its mine tho it isnt a repost lol

[shut hawk]

Happy new day to people in GMT tz

[pearl kindle]

cheers

[sinful moon]

For my 120Hz TV, five new frames would have to be generated to achieve that effect

[pearl kindle]

i have the c1

[sinful moon]

Yeah I have the C3

[pearl kindle]

i want to upgrade to a90L

what do you think

[sinful moon]

Sony? Why switch?

[shut hawk]

What are your new days resolutions?

[sinful moon]

I love my LGs to death

[silver sky]

I've just cracked out a 1500 word essay 😎

[pearl kindle]

keep being sober

[shut hawk]

🔥 keyboard warrior

[pearl kindle]

i do too, i want to get the G4 but it's a lot of money

[sinful moon]

I mean why do you even need to upgrade from the C1 already?

[pearl kindle]

playing bloodborne on the c1 was mesmerizing

[pearl kindle]

just a huge fan of rtings.com

[sinful moon]

I have 2x C3s and love them

[grizzled wing]

haha i can answer the questions without the stupid app, notepad works

[shut hawk]

as somebody with an LG monitor, I do have to say it's been quite reliable

[pearl kindle]

holy cow 2 C3s!!!

[blazing granite]

4026 x 2160 😂

[sinful moon]

While that's fair, like don't jump at new and shiny and wait until there's an appriciable benefit. Especially instead of going down a step in LG's lineup or switching to (also quite good) Sonys

[sinful moon]

Yeah one for my bedroom and one in the living room

the smaller bedroom one was a test to see how much I liked it and obvs I loved it so went all in

[grizzled wing]

Log Universe 🎉 144 points

[shut hawk]

Oh awesome my JetKVM is being delivered

[sinful moon]

Nice those looked neat

[shut hawk]

I'll let you know how it goes

[blazing granite]

I have an smart tv that I'm using as a monitor

[sinful moon]

But who needs that when I have iDRAC in my server

I kid, there's tons more uses for JetKVM

[shut hawk]

lmao fair point

I am mainly planning on accessing it from uni

[sinful moon]

Yeah I kinda specifically got a referb server instead of spare machines just for the lights out management

Killer features like, oh just upload the ISO you need to load to the SD card, and that's a virtual CD drive as far as the server is concerned

besides the whole remote access thing

[shut hawk]

woah that's pretty neat tbh

[sinful moon]

Yep, just something iDRAC does

[pallid lotus]

Totally overkill when the server is 3m away from you though...

But brilliant when you're feeling lazy

[sinful moon]

shhh. We won't address that :p

[pallid lotus]

... Ask me how I know.

[sinful moon]

lolol fair

[pearl kindle]

you're right

[shut hawk]

https://jetkvm.com/docs/peripheral-devices/mount-drive

[pallid lotus]

Can't be bothered going upstairs to check server stats? Just do it from your phone.

[shut hawk]

It has something similar

[sinful moon]

lol indeed

I'm enjoying that too for my Unifi network now that I've kinda taken over admin from my very not networking savvy SO

[rapid merlin]

Who decided to produce this?

[sinful moon]

For once there's a phone app that's not crap for managing your network and getting stats

[pallid lotus]

Unifi though

[rapid merlin]

IP^kvm is crazy

[shut hawk]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jetkvm/jetkvm

[sinful moon]

What's wrong with them, beyond price and occasional bad firmware? lol

[rapid merlin]

That's awesome

[sinful moon]

We already had 3 Unifi APs which existed prior to me moving in and I just kinda completed the circle with a Unifi Gateway Max which I'm exteremly happy about

And then just running the Unifi server on my, erm, server

[whole yew]

or when you are automating management, or want a proper segmentation of 'prod' vs 'mgt' networks in your homelab

[proven quartz]

@sand trench 😁

[pallid lotus]

Y'know, that's a good question.
I remember seeing something a few years ago that turned me away from them, but for the life of me I can't remember what. A hallucination perhaps

Then again, it's probably something @naive violet said

[sinful moon]

Totally fair, because I can totally understand the two concerns I mentioned, but even this Gateway Max was the same price as many high end (lol) "gaming routers"

I know at work we've seen some bad firmware updates but they haven't been too hard to recover from and it's mostly gotten better

[shut hawk]

Right gn all, have a good one!

[sinful moon]

G'night Jayy!

[pallid lotus]

I mean, I just run OPNsense and an enterprise WAP. Does the job rather nicely 🤷‍♂️

[sinful moon]

Yeah I can't complain, back in the day I did dd-wrt or OpenWRT on practically everything and loved it, but decided to kinda go full Unifi just because... yes it's what we often use at work

[pallid lotus]

Fair

[sinful moon]

we're at a point where we're getting rid of some of our more traditional Next Gen firewalls and replacing them with Unifi Gateway Maxes just because they do all the same things we need but without a subscription

[pallid lotus]

I was fancying OpenWRT for a while. Some of the tricks you can do with it are awesome. e.g., tagging traffic based on the WPA passphrase provided.

[sinful moon]

Plus lol I could tell some horror stories about our firewall vendor, guess I'll say it, SonicWALL, from experience

both personally and professionally

but yeah not the same thing as nice open source solution that you have

[pallid lotus]

Look on the bright side... At least it's not fortigate

[sinful moon]

lol yep, or Cisco where apperently if you don't pay the sub, whoops no more networking

[pallid lotus]

I mean, it's a lose lose. Either your networking goes down because you don't sell a kidney, or your networking goes down because someone's hacked all your firewalls

... Or both

[proven quartz]

One of my dear friends from back in the day swore by Sonicwall. They didn't perform very well for a client of mine in the datacentre so we chucked in a couple of Netscreens (they were bought by Juniper), and then replaced those with Juniper's own firewalls eventually

[sinful moon]

It was funny though SonicWALL had a year 2022 bug which crashed all of our firewalls on new years. I'm just glad I caught the news before work that morning so I could tell everyone what was up

[pallid lotus]

... How do you mess up on 2022?

[sinful moon]

Exchange had a similar issue lol

[pallid lotus]

2000, sure. 2038, sure.
Tf is the significance of 2022

[sinful moon]

For SonicWALL it was specifically boot loops with new virus/malware deffintions... which lol even then how does that happen

[polar spoke]

32bit integers

this will happen again in 2024

and so on

Year 2022

Dates that are stored in the format yymmddHHMM converted to a signed 32-bit integer overflowed on 1 January 2022, since 231 = 2147483648. Notably affected was the malware-scanning component update numbers of Microsoft Exchange, which appear to be used for a mathematical check to determine the latest update.[36][37]

Honda and Acura cars manufactured between 2004 and 2012 containing GPS navigation systems incorrectly displayed the year as 2002. This problem was due to an overflow on the GPS epoch.[38][39] The issue was resolved on August 17, 2022.[40] 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs

[sinful moon]

beat me to it

more exact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs#Year_2022

[polar spoke]

🙂

[pallid lotus]

I mean, marginally better than bricking a significant proportion of Windows devices on the planet...

[sinful moon]

hah indeed, still killed all of our clients right as they got into work so it was an all hands on deck situation

[pallid lotus]

A. Fair enough, that makes sense.
B. Why am I not surprised you had that answer immediately to hand?
C. Hi 👋 😆

[sinful moon]

The SonicWALL bug was actually previously in this article, not sure why it was removed

But yes time and date both funkiness and sync is a big interest of mine in terms of tech so I've read that article many times

[silver sky]

Cisco also refuses to allow WiFi location services too.

So software like SafeZone cannot use it to pinpoint people

[sinful moon]

I mean theroretically that's a great thing, but lol I get it if you work with retail chains

Ah okay SafeZone is for employee headcount for emergencies, fair enough

[silver sky]

Yeah well, not good when you deny a safety app to be unable to pin point an alert in a building

[silver sky]

It's a bit more than that but yeah

[whole yew]

For a while the Ubiquiti cloud key and manager (containerized and build into UDB pro as well) was running a version of java that was extremely vulnerable to multiple RCE attacks. it was fine..... So long as the home prosumer remembered to lock down what can actually see the management console port. Serial was fine, internal network was fine.... But many users somehow managed to put the management console on the public facing WAN as well.

[sinful moon]

Mhmm, just my first take glancing at thier site

[silver sky]

It's more used in education for students and staff to be able to check in when lone working or raise emergency issues.

[sinful moon]

Good points, that have been rectified afaik but I still have issues with their choice in ancient MongoDB, but thankfully they've at least allowed you to use more modern versions.

Our Unifi controllers at work was one of my first security tasks at work actually, patching log4shell vulns

[whole yew]

Yep. And they still have a cloud version, which i am still unsure of. So I don't use the cloud management of anything. Probably going to get rid of all my network gear in the next year and start from scratch with whatever the new WAP is combined with an OpnSense router box.

[sinful moon]

Yeah I also can't speak of their cloud or "cloudkey" local device hosted options. I don't trust that compared to the self hosted Unifi server which is much more ideal imho

[sinful moon]

Totally fair though. Just for home networking, I'm finally getting back in the game after my SO acquiesced management of the network to me, fully admitting he doesn't know networking very well

been like 6-8 years since I've got to manage my home network so it's a breath of fresh air either way, which may contribute to my praise of Unifi. But been solid af so far

[sinful moon]

Thinking of exposing management interfaces, I still can't believe there's over 37,000 exposed ESXi/vSphere installs out there. Like come on

lol that was probably just the number confirmed to be actively exploitable via the new vulns tho

Ah yep, I did remember that correctly https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/over-37-000-vmware-esxi-servers-vulnerable-to-ongoing-attacks/

Anyways, I guess I'll continue to chat into the void. No regrets with switching from ESXi/vSphere to Proxmox for my home lab. Migration process was simple.

I used Proxmox at home prior to ESXi but I figured I'd continue to gain more valuable work experience... before Broadcom decided to screw over home lab users as well via the VMUG program requiring certs on top of a subscription

It is funny though, as a result I could tell my boss, yes I have experience migrating servers off of VMware if we want to go that way. I can't believe all the ways Broadcom/VMware are shooting themselves in the foot

[proven quartz]

They thought they had enough vendor lock-in with the already established base, even when there's a variety of tools and methods for integrating various VM/Cloud platforms

[sinful moon]

Yeah clearly understimated, especially for the small/medium business scope, but heck the even dramatically impacted the very large reseller scope and had to walk that back

It's a trainwreck

lol I'd go so far as to say it's Oracle acquiring Sun Microsystems levels of awfulness

[inner goblet]

How do I install GitHub?

[proven quartz]

Yeah I know of so many orgs ditching VMware all over the place for a variety of Cloud/Multi-cloud/Private Cloud environments with better terms and pricing in every way...

[sinful moon]

um if Ubuntu/Debian do sudo apt install git

[inner goblet]

Like I guess repositories? Idk how to use the tools or how to use the website

[inner goblet]

I’m on Kali

[sinful moon]

That's Debian based yes

same difference, then you can git clone https://whatever-the-github-url-is to downlod the git repo and go from there

and presumably build the project

[wooden totem]

October 2009

[proven quartz]

You can learn Linux fundamentals from the Linux fundamentals rooms in THM.

[inner goblet]

I did😐 I need to talk to the person who made the course.

[sinful moon]

That sounds like #room-help if you're actually running into issues following any instructions tbf

[proven quartz]

You can ask questions about any issues you're having in the relevant channels and people are always willing to help

[sinful moon]

But git its self is very simple

[inner goblet]

As a beginner. That knows nothings about nothing. It’s a lot of reading. I wish it tests knowledge more to make sure you really understand.

[sinful moon]

To be fair infosec in general is a lot of reading, but also doing your own experimentation with what you've learned outside of just one platform

[inner goblet]

True that’s me. I open up my Kali and test it on myself or my wifi.

[sinful moon]

For linux 90% of github projects are git clone the repo, make and make install. But yeah just read what the repo advises

[inner goblet]

The repo is a tool. Would it show up like a normal tool on Kali under the drop down?

[sinful moon]

Many github README.md literally just spell out how to do it

There is no drop down, this is terminal level concepts which returns us to, ensure you understand Linux Fundimentals as taught on THM

Just like, make sure that THM is not your only source of information as great as it is. If someone has asked a Linux question online, there's an answer and you can easily find it (compared to Windows)

[inner goblet]

Your right

It’s no hate to try hack me I just wish they help some of this knowledge be Inforced

[sinful moon]

imho it's constantly re-enforced, but one great way of learning Linux is just by doing and using it

If the Linux knowledge is the gap you have, install a (normal) distro in a VM and try to use it as you would for normal activities, or a spare computer

Just by using Linux often and trying to do what you want there, you'll just inherently gain tons of experience

But yep, this will require both research and reading

[inner goblet]

Yea I like hands on things

Doing it myself

I feel like only the rooms show you how to do it not the courses

[sinful moon]

Totally fair, it would be good experience just to install and attempt to use a normal Linux distro in a VM as if it was your main computer. When you run into something you don't know how to do, just look it up

I also say "normal" since Kali Linux is a very specalized tool and shouldn't be used for general purpose computing. If you are curious the devs will tell you why: https://www.kali.org/docs/introduction/should-i-use-kali-linux/

[grizzled wing]

[sinful moon]

Trying to install Steam on your Kali Linux desktop is an experiment that will not end well.

lol I'm glad they literally address that face on because I can't tell you how many times I saw that question in other Linux discords and had to explain, no bad

[grizzled wing]

why would you put Steam on Kali ?

play games while you hack ?

[sinful moon]

Because people think that Linux is hacker OS, so why not go with most hacker OS of Linux and use it as their main lol

[proven quartz]

Cos gamers want to be leet haxors or something... 😛

[pearl kindle]

lmao

[grizzled wing]

so often they get hacked

"let me download a pirated game"

[sinful moon]

And I've seen worse than that, believe it or not

[pearl kindle]

sea of thieves

"pirate"

[grizzled wing]

i bet you do have stories

[sinful moon]

"help a friend installed apt on my Arch so he could install all of the Kali tools.... why is my system broken"... holy crap my dude

[proven quartz]

I use Mint as my main and Kali in a vm. I've been using Linux since 1997

[pearl kindle]

based

[sinful moon]

Nice, only 2006 for me

[fallen burrow]

piracy is justified in sea of thieves

[grizzled wing]

omfg apt on

[sinful moon]

Vista and old hardware is what made me switch

[pearl kindle]

windows vista gave me a lot of strength

strength to change to linux

[sinful moon]

nice lol, agreed

[grizzled wing]

[proven quartz]

My college Linux lecturer occasionally wrote for Linux Journal. We both went to a small conference once and met Stallman

[sinful moon]

Very nice!

lol at least my experience is old enough that back in my day we had that sys v init, HAL, ALSA and manually configuring xorg.conf

[blazing granite]

nice to see another 9x something here 🙂 I've been using Linux since 1993

[grizzled wing]

i was around but not with computers back then

[pearl kindle]

ive been using linux since 2008

[proven quartz]

He was having a fairly open convo with about 8-10 of us, then just sat back on his chair and started messing around in emacs on his laptop

[pearl kindle]

some OGs in the chat tho

[sinful moon]

inb4 Rex and subtlety laugh in OSS sound system

[pearl kindle]

linus can be proud

[fallen burrow]

tiktok brain but for emacs

[grizzled wing]

Linus is amusing

i've used Emacs for C++

[pearl kindle]

bruh the guy is such a genius

he saw a problem

he created git

[proven quartz]

I think I upset Linus when I spoke to him. I said something that irked him enough for him to mention it during the fireside chat at LinuxCon

[sinful moon]

but (n)vim... nevermind, we won't start this lol

[pearl kindle]

i want more details

[grizzled wing]

i like neovim

[sinful moon]

Sounds charactistically accurate, I wouldn't take it personally indeed

[steady pewter]

you live up to your name.

[grizzled wing]

Linus seems like a guy who is easy to make angry

[pearl kindle]

i mean

[proven quartz]

I honestly forget what I said to him, but he threw his hands in the air when one of the questions he was asked reminded him of our conversation

[pearl kindle]

jfc

[sinful moon]

lol still legendary to even be able to say that

[grizzled wing]

Linus, how do you feel about NVIDIA?

[sinful moon]

Last I heard he actually walked that back a bit

[pearl kindle]

linus i'm using rhel because centos is open source, do you agree? i don't own a company

[sinful moon]

But Nvidia still has a long way to go

[fallen burrow]

He walked that back and a new generation of FOSS devs are walking it 10 miles forward

[grizzled wing]

the meme is so well known think NVIDIA has made steps in making it better experience

[blazing granite]

Linux use fedora so he's ok 😉 😂

[steady pewter]

I have to deal with NVIDIA every single day, fight with python3.10 just to keep my Tesla K80 working.

[proven quartz]

Well Nvidia have been playing a little better with everyone, since Linux is a tool very much in need by their customers

[sinful moon]

Honestly I've never had issues with Nvidia on Linux but I know I'm one of the lucky ones

[fallen burrow]

Sway wm doesn't support nvidia gpus at all

[grizzled wing]

wasn't 3.10 when the walrus := came around?

[steady pewter]

thank the linux gods.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #31 - 299)

[grizzled wing]

299

[sinful moon]

lol free rep

[steady pewter]

I think it was bionic beaver.

[fallen burrow]

It's much easier to run NVIDIA on x11 than wayland, though.

[pearl kindle]

deserved rep always

[grizzled wing]

another 🐍 coder ! nice

[sinful moon]

That's fair, like they only just started to support Wayland finally

[steady pewter]

🐍 assemble!

[fallen burrow]

And it still runs much better if you can get it to work

[blazing granite]

the biggest problem with nvida is when you have a prime gpu

[proven quartz]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. It seems to have worked well for me. It even runs cyberpunk quite well on my machine

[sinful moon]

Imho Nvidia was like the thing holding Wayland adoption back for over a decade or more

[pearl kindle]

i bought the 5070ti and in one of the unlucky ones with rup

[grizzled wing]

i came up with a fun fake back story for wayland

tl;dr it started in California where people say "no way dude" and over time "way" is associated with California => way + land

[pearl kindle]

luckily i'm doing the replacement

[fallen burrow]

It's a bit difficult now, especially because nouveau is super slow.

[inner goblet]

How do I make a selection when I want to use a number?

[grizzled wing]

import blackhoodie

blackhood.hack()

[fallen burrow]

I'm having to use the proprietary nvidia drivers which I absolutely hate

[sinful moon]

I will say though, as an Arch user yeah I've just been sudo pacman -S nvidia and all set for quite some time

[blazing granite]

I have a dell with a nvidia gpu prime that mess up my life 😂 😛

[steady pewter]

You should see my github page(s).

[sinful moon]

although laughs at how I used to have to use the nvidia utility to generate my xorg.conf back in the day

[proven quartz]

Well nouveau did all it really could, they don't have access to the hardware enough to fully take advantage of it

[grizzled wing]

why? what's there?

[fallen burrow]

No shade to them, I respect the hell out of the devs

[steady pewter]

You'll see.

[inner goblet]

I’m typing in the number to use a selection and it’s not working 🫤

[pearl kindle]

send link and review

[fallen burrow]

but the fact is is that nouveau is slow and kinda unusable on a bunch of cards

[sinful moon]

You make it sound like it's final, but nah for sure a living project

Get what you mean though

[blazing granite]

nouveau kind of suck but it's not their fault, the do the best they can giving the circumstances

[sinful moon]

mhmm

[proven quartz]

Of course, but unfortunately, we're not allowed to know the inner workings of the infrastructure we rely on

[sinful moon]

It is funny though, us in the Linux community celebrate anytime Nvidia opens up any scrap of information but yeah it's often just that... scraps

[steady pewter]

haha.

I can relate, after all, I am trying to make a VBIOS for my Tesla K80 to unlock it's true potential.

[pearl kindle]

with scraps you make Electronic Arts

[sinful moon]

God forbid AMD learn their propritary secrests lol

[inner goblet]

Can someone help me? Please

[proven quartz]

They still hide everything behind walls and there's not much you can do except decide whether you want their drivers

[blazing granite]

if you say what's the issue maybe somebody can help you 🙂

[inner goblet]

I said it at the top with a picture. I’m trying to make a selection and it’s refreshing the whole terminal

[pearl kindle]

in any cases Nvidia makes more than 70% of their money in datacenters

they don't care about gpus anymore

[sinful moon]

I shall brb

[proven quartz]

My other machine is a locked down AMD thing with a FreeBBSD-based os... It sits under my tv and is quite neglected a lot of the time... Time for me to boot up my PS5 methinks

[pearl kindle]

4 fps native 4k with 5070 lmao

with Path tracing sorry for the confusion

[inner goblet]

Ohhhhhh wait

[pearl kindle]

Source : Digital Foundry

[inner goblet]

Yea I still need help

[pearl kindle]

hope AMD takes the crown in GPUs

but heavy is the crown

[proven quartz]

Years ago I had a great ATI graphics card (over 20 years ago) that came with a voucher for a free copy of Half Life 2. That was quite the win at the time

[blazing granite]

brb time to make another g&t

[pearl kindle]

x1650?

[proven quartz]

Can't remember what it was but I think the box or manual for it is still in the attic...

[pearl kindle]

i had this one for my first vista of

pc

[inner goblet]

I’m trying to use a tool. When I type the number it refreshes. Idk what to do

[pearl kindle]

i burned it in a year

[sinful moon]

Dude if this is a Evilgnix thing and related to a room, you should ask in #room-help

[pearl kindle]

so trash lmfao

[proven quartz]

Probably before that one

[sinful moon]

You can see how fast this chat goes

[pearl kindle]

ok ok

[sinful moon]

Idk if that’s the UI for such but yeah

[inner goblet]

No it’s not idk what evilginix is

[sinful moon]

Then if this is a THM room, state the room and ask on that channel for assistance c:

[inner goblet]

It’s general. I’m trying to use a tool option. When I type in the number my whole terminal reloads

[proven quartz]

I went to the launch of Windows Vista in Dublin back in the day wearing a 'Free Software, Free Society' t-shirt. We got copies of Vista Ultimate and whatever the full Office version was. Neil Armstrong gave the keynote so we got in line after

[pearl kindle]

Noah is this you?

[sinful moon]

If not a room then you need to give us info on the tool and your current setup

[blazing granite]

cheers

[pearl kindle]

you seem like someone who has a lot of stories

you lived many moments that's great

[proven quartz]

I just got really lucky and got to take some opportunities

[sinful moon]

Yeah I was all of like 16 when Vista launched, neat to hear about

[blazing granite]

Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you a whole house 😉 😂

[pearl kindle]

based comment

[blazing granite]

what a load of sh.. vista was, not as bad as windows me but still

[pearl kindle]

windows allows you to do easily the easy tasks, linux allows you to do the difficult ones

vista is the reason i moved to linux

[proven quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[sinful moon]

The thing that annoyed me about getting into windows sysadmin professionally, Linux naturally teaches you how to admin. For Microsoft, the real admin features are limited to Windows Sever and or never something even a Power User would come across

[pearl kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-plain-doll-doll-hunter-souls-gif-24351576

[proper sable]

what's with infostealers being so shit, no obfuscation at ALL

[sinful moon]

And it’s only gotten worse with Azure/Entra ID

[pearl kindle]

Entra ID...

kill me

[blazing granite]

Easy, difficult it's not the issue for me. I love Linux because it gives you options 🙂

[proven quartz]

I haven't used Windows for anything other than target practice in a long time. Got my new laptop at Xmas, booted into Win 11 for long enough to check the hardware then straight into Linux

[pearl kindle]

absolutely, many options in how to move away from windows

i'm working on azure devops right now

EA and app reg is killing me with service connections

[sinful moon]

okie I'm back for real, I was in and out on my phone ealier

[pearl kindle]

i'm using templating on terraform and it's so annoying doing the rotation

always have to watch my key vaults

[sinful moon]

Yeah just sadly something I have to do in small/medium business scope. But I hate to say that AD/GPO was a blessing compared to Azure/EntraID. Just nope

[pearl kindle]

we're moving to github actions tho 💯

GPOs were based between 2010-2019 for me

and then Azure Ad Connect came in...

hybrid...

[sinful moon]

Like to administrate anything cloud related for Microsoft these days, there's a good 50 different portals which may or may not apply to you and just holy crap

[pearl kindle]

hell on earth for me

[proven quartz]

When I'm working I absolutely don't mind managing Windows/AD. I've not spent longer than a few hours on Azure so not really familiar with their processes

[sinful moon]

lol now that a vibe I 100% get lol

[pearl kindle]

funny how azure came alive because of xbox

[sinful moon]

I mean AD/GPO is just lovely. But yeah the "cloud" experience is just a mess where they decided to re-invent the wheel in 50 different places

lol I'm glad at least I got to see the dying days of on-prem 🙃

[pearl kindle]

i did the migration from exchange to o365

in 2015-2016

pain in the ass

but got my ms-500!!!

lmao

[proven quartz]

MS has a history of taking the long way round to make things work, because if they don't have 500 doohickeys in a process chain, they can't do simple things

[pearl kindle]

skype for business to teams ...

moving to VoIP

getting nostalgic

[sinful moon]

Mhmm, although was a bit later for us but wasn't the craziest thing ever, but we just used modern migration tools

[pearl kindle]

it was a pain in the ass you have no idea

we had no tools

[sinful moon]

but lol, I um, wasn't a part of that project anyways, I just know the team spoke highly of the product

Yeah I bet, that was sorta early days

[pearl kindle]

yeah the product

not the migration haha

[sinful moon]

erm *migration product I mean

lol

[pearl kindle]

did by scripting rip

would have known a tool

[sinful moon]

Yeah I can only imagine that PowerShell and all that

[pearl kindle]

powershell was like what version 3 at the time

yeah exactly

[sinful moon]

I mean we managed Exchange servers up to past the 2020s and whew

[blazing granite]

indeed they're still doing it with windows, since 1995 😉 😂

[sinful moon]

I got in when there were three left and wow they were not fun. But yep, all migrated now

which... causes problems when all of our clients had to sign into their phones and other devices once more because O365 connections failed last weekend

just all your eggs in the Microsoft basket, enjoy 20+ calls for logging people back into iOS Mail on their phone with their O365 lol

[pearl kindle]

hahaha

[sinful moon]

Yeah it's certantly a thing lol

[grizzled wing]

back in chat

[sinful moon]

as the saying goes, the cloud is just someone else's computer lol

[grizzled wing]

yes

"my other computer is your computer" haha

[sinful moon]

I won't crap on the idea entirely however, I do enjoy the cloud VPS services I use personally and professionally.

cheap remote linux server? why not

erm the "cloud" idea more generally i should say

[proven quartz]

I currently have zero VMs or containers running anywhere in the world so I'm going to take advantage of the opportunity to run away to play games. Take care folks 😄

[grizzled wing]

☁️ ---- 💻

[sinful moon]

Enjoy and it was great chatting!

[steady pewter]

☁️ attack 💻

[proven quartz]

Always a pleasure

[grizzled wing]

[steady pewter]

wait @viscid vortex did you send me a friend request?

[sinful moon]

Anyways, even if Azure/Entra ID is an ever increasing admin task, I still recommend learning AD/GPO for sure

Gonna be a legacy of such for years and years to come

Just one of the things that kind of surprised me when I thought of myself as a Windows "Power User"...

Oh wow, there's all these wild admin tools that actually turn off all the things I disliked about Windows lol

Yeah you do have that on Pro editions of Windows with "Local Group Policy" but you probably wouldn't have understood how powerful that was without some experince. Probably had only seen it in guides as "method 3" or whatver lol

[chilly veldt]

It'd not Entra ID anymore

[pearl kindle]

alright gn everyone

[sinful moon]

Policy wise? Sure I couldn't tell you where it is with all the different Microsoft portals I have to get into just for security related concepts lol

[sinful moon]

Good night, was great chatting!

[pearl kindle]

absolutely

[chilly veldt]

It's me that is wrong, it's azure AD that also got renamed into Microsoft Entra ID

[sinful moon]

Yeah no worries, that's why I begruddingly just say both these days lol

the switch from Azure AD to Entra ID kinda pissed me off. Like Azure AD is way more clear as a through-line of what it's doing

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, I had just heard some rumors of new name change again

[sinful moon]

Yeah Microsoft just loves that

[chilly veldt]

Big time

[inner goblet]

How do I remove a repo?

[sinful moon]

I still laugh tho, there's so many references still to "AAD" or "azuread" in URLs, old docs and more tucked away places in Microsoft's massive infra, that they can't break those due to legacy reasons

[chilly veldt]

In what sense?

[chilly veldt]

On-prem is much better than cloud when it comes to naming

[inner goblet]

I installed a bad repo from GitHub. It says it requires a lot of things I don’t have for it to work. It took up 15mb and I wanted to remove it from my machine

[sinful moon]

Yeah, you've mentioned git in the past, but there's also the concept of repos you download by adding with apt package manager

[chilly veldt]

Delete the folder

[steady pewter]

That's a lot.

[sinful moon]

Oh okay, so just like read the README.md on the page for the repo and see what they say, and also yeah can just delete the folder

[chilly veldt]

Drunken tech support to the rescue

[sinful moon]

if you actually did like a full make and make install or whaver compile, then you can just check on the Readme like I mentioned for the uninstall to remove those too. The won't be managed by your package manger

[chilly veldt]

I was more thinking about arch repos

[inner goblet]

I did “sudo apt install”

[chilly veldt]

Sudo apt remove

[sinful moon]

So yeah that's not git based, that would be your system's package manager

but Bella is right, that and then the package name is how you remove just a package

[sinful moon]

aka "the program's name"

[inner goblet]

It says “unable to locate package”

[sinful moon]

then that wasn't it. What are you trying to uninstall anyways?

[loud marlin]

waht program you try to renove for start

[inner goblet]

Um

A bad tool.

[loud marlin]

if is installed you just out first letter of program and pres tab 2x time or so and will show some results

[inner goblet]

Oh wait I have to verify the package is the right name

[loud marlin]

that need for sure

[chilly veldt]

If apt didn't install properly, then it's not on your machine

[inner goblet]

Ok it’s not there

I did “apt list —installed”

[chilly veldt]

Yup, then it's not on your machine

[sinful moon]

so if this is not the case, did you just use git

[inner goblet]

Yea

[sinful moon]

if so, mostly just delete the folder

done

if you installed it to your system, see what I said previously

[chilly veldt]

Yay

Yet another yoghurt

[sinful moon]

Been so long since I've had Youghurt but yeah it's yummy

[inner goblet]

And the tool I was trying to use but I typed in a number to use the selection and it didn’t work because I had to install 34 other things

[chilly veldt]

It's also a package manager in arch

[blazing granite]

yet another g&T 😂

[sinful moon]

oh lol I, yeah I use paru these days. But it takes me a second after so many different AUR managers over the years... lol I just have update alias which just "does the thing" lol

[chilly veldt]

Indeed, yay updates everything

[sinful moon]

mhmm, if I remember correcrly, paru is the rust successor by the same devs as yay

[blazing granite]

yay sound like a cousin of yum 😂

[sinful moon]

lol, either way I think dnf is probably the worst name with "Did Not Finish" being used as a common racing Acronym lol

[grizzled wing]

i should try fedora again

[sinful moon]

Now pacman that's pretty class and descriptive. And I mean, can't fault the version flag lol

[steady pewter]

Now that's my favorite package manager!

[grizzled wing]

pacman waka waka

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pacman-video-game-eating-marshmallow-gif-6008098

[sinful moon]

Yeah I have a good bit of respect for Fedora, good stuff. I usually use their projects as a sign I should switch to some new Linux tech that's being pioneered.

[chilly veldt]

NixOS

[sinful moon]

When Fedora adopted PipeWire, I was all in and no regrets

just fantastic stuff

I switched on my Arch install and it was seamless and has been since

[grizzled wing]

i use for they have the best dark mode in my experience

[sinful moon]

I mean that's a theming and DE concern that could apply to any distro

[chilly veldt]

My arch is full dark mode

[grizzled wing]

OpenSUSE breaks dark mode when i tried in VM

[chilly veldt]

I use arch btw

[blazing granite]

I have fedora full dark mode

[sinful moon]

mhmm, same. Basically same on every OS I daily, besides Windows not wanting to dark theme classic Win32 apps

[blazing granite]

I use fedora btw 😉 😂

[sinful moon]

I do the Linux, macOS, Windows on the daily most often. It's a thing

Linux main however

[grizzled wing]

Linux is awesome

[chilly veldt]

I just set up tails

[sinful moon]

(obvs mostly work, but I also just love being well versed in every OS)

[chilly veldt]

For when I'm in China

[sinful moon]

whew, for real?

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, flying Sunday

[sinful moon]

Then yep, good idea

Still, have fun!

[chilly veldt]

15:00 CET

[grizzled wing]

Tails, i have it on USB

[blazing granite]

you know what people say, when you're in China, try not to get crush by the big firewall 😉 😂

[chilly veldt]

The laptop I'm bringing has a "broken" windows setup

Only way to get it to boot is with my usb

[high mulch]

same

https://tenor.com/view/light-mode-no-light-mode-say-no-to-light-mode-say-no-to-light-bright-screen-gif-26822688

[chilly veldt]

Otherwise it just boots up in windows "os corrupt, please recover"

[grizzled wing]

i would bring a laptop with Haiku OS

or damn small linux

or the Chinese linux distro , forget the name

[steady pewter]

It's got a nice ring to it.

[high mulch]

which one? Deeping, ubuntu kylin or kylin

[blazing granite]

Deepin?

or Ubuntu Kylin

those are the 2 I know

[sinful moon]

Haiku is just lovely

[grizzled wing]

yes
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=deepin

would be smart to have this distro so you are "friendly" linux user

[chilly veldt]

I'm still wondering if I just gonna make a fake profile on my phone or bring my third burner

[grizzled wing]

3rd burner

[grizzled wing]

it is a distro i would not use unless i had to

[blazing granite]

3rd burner

[sinful moon]

Here's my THM/HTB attack box VPS:

[chilly veldt]

I mean, I can isolate my normal profile properly for a basic security check

Might just bring both

[molten sky]

Truths

[grizzled wing]

but its China, bring stuff you can dispose of

[high mulch]

[chilly veldt]

It's mass Surveillance, not specific

But yeah

I'll decide tomorrow

[junior relic]

hi guysw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

new guy here

[grizzled wing]

hi

[high mulch]

welcome new guy here

[junior relic]

hope im wlecome here being a computer newbie :333

[blazing granite]

@molten sky 👋 how are you?

[molten sky]

nope, no computers allowed

[junior relic]

just tryna learn abt

oh

aw

welp

i tried

[molten sky]

not sure if i mentioned the new co here yet, but they finally started my background check after a week of screwing around
so i've gotta wait another week before starting ,-,

[blazing granite]

can you write in one line, please? it's kind of annoying one word per line

[molten sky]

but we're making progress so whatever

[junior relic]

sorry its how i type

cant control it i can try tho

[molten sky]

~~ they just don't get it ~~

[grizzled wing]

yes you can , wait until you finish a sentence before hitting enter

[junior relic]

i have adhd its mostly linked to that im not using it as an excuse

its just proven

[grizzled wing]

plenty of people in this discord have that same thing and can type a sentence

[junior relic]

sorry ill try

[molten sky]

how dare you assume my linguisticability

i need a drink

[blazing granite]

it's a matter of write like a human being, adhd isn't an excuse for everything

[grizzled wing]

i dared

imagine writing a SOC report that way

[junior relic]

im not using it as an excuse i just said

bro i thought i was gonna feel welcome here :/

[grizzled wing]

okay, so what do you wish to learn in cyber security @junior relic ?

[molten sky]

pentest_report(FINAL)2.docx
- dkim not found, email hackable
okay i'll have my 90k pls

[high mulch]

It's okay, mate. I have faith in you, you can work it out, though :)

[sinful moon]

I mean they like lined up the words below this in a nice triangle shape and that was nice

[molten sky]

lmao didn't even notice

[sinful moon]

I love it when text natually does that, mhmm

[blazing granite]

you can, just behive like a normal person 🙂

[molten sky]

beehive*

[sinful moon]

Anyways Rune, we're glad to have you

[junior relic]

i just wanna learn about computers so i can have fun doing random stuff or tweaking it around 😄

[junior relic]

i am a normal person...

[molten sky]

funny, that's exactly what a crow would say

[grizzled wing]

sounds fun, but this discord is for ethical legal cyber security just so you understand

[junior relic]

fine by me :))

[grizzled wing]

ok, cool

[junior relic]

😭

[blazing granite]

that's kind of vague, first you need to know what you want to learn exactly, pick a subject and the move to the next one

[sinful moon]

lol, also yeah if you weren't aware this Discord is primarily for https://tryhackme.com/ which does teach you from the basics about computers and information security

[grizzled wing]

if you want to a pathway to follow

#start-here

[molten sky]

any of y'all use zen?

[junior relic]

letrs see what options there are!

[grizzled wing]

not yet

[junior relic]

also i do have an issue atm

[molten sky]

just loaded it up to poke at and got whiplash from how different the ui looks lol

[blazing granite]

#general message this list can help you too

[grizzled wing]

i like LibreWolf

[sinful moon]

which zen? Just curious about context

[molten sky]

libreywolf is solid as well

@ noir zen browser, ff fork

[grizzled wing]

[sinful moon]

Ah I just stick to Firefox, but I can understand

[junior relic]

i downloaded a custom OS and i cant activate windows on it: windows reported that the hardware of your device has changed. error code: 0xC004F211

[molten sky]

same, but i've had problems recently and got curious

[grizzled wing]

they are shady now

[sinful moon]

we all know, but we shall see

[molten sky]

"custom os" being?

[grizzled wing]

i also saw will be adding AI

[high mulch]

I do

[molten sky]

ew

[sinful moon]

Yeah lol

[molten sky]

the further enshitification of ddg

[junior relic]

custom windows 11

i had windows 10 since its way faster than windows 11

[grizzled wing]

where did you get it from?

[sinful moon]

They are much more for profit than their goals suggest... yeah this got it ^

[junior relic]

but then this verion dletes soems tuff that makes winodws 11 faster than windows 10

[molten sky]

ah one of those

those are always hit and miss

[junior relic]

google but some smart guy sent it to me so im pretty sure its fine he uses it himself

[molten sky]

but yeah windows is a shitshow with activation sometimes

[sinful moon]

Custom version of Windows 11 is inadvisable, who knows what they changed

[grizzled wing]

some guy ?

[junior relic]

ik him personally, 2 years

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

some guy ^

[junior relic]

😭

nooo dw i known him for 2 years

[sinful moon]

ah, the long con

lol I kid

[molten sky]

but yeah we don't think the guy is doing anything, we just question how much he knows

a lot of people recommend things without actually knowing what it does or how it does it

[blazing granite]

so the chicken crossed the road and the duck crossed to the dark side 😂

[molten sky]

like people recommending those old "cpu core unlock" tools and whatnot

[junior relic]

hm

[grizzled wing]

the duck crossed the AI to leak data

[junior relic]

i mean i just did it because i prefer win 11 over win 10

[sinful moon]

Idk maybe you need to download more RAM

[grizzled wing]

[download 🐏 ]

[molten sky]

the horrible irony of that is "download more ram" used to KINDA be a thing too, with it essentially creating new swap space and actually speeding things up

[blazing granite]

it was nice while it lasted 😂

[sinful moon]

Yeah lol, I can't remember the exact package but it was that "Doubler" company iirc

[grizzled wing]

yea, sucks

[molten sky]

more wam

[junior relic]

hmmm whats someything cool i can do?

[grizzled wing]

install linux

[molten sky]

*deletes original answer*

[junior relic]

whats the pros

of linux

[molten sky]

not windows

[grizzled wing]

[junior relic]

idk how to use linux thats the thing

[grizzled wing]

free software

free games

be cool

[molten sky]

gotta learn somehow (but realistically, maybe set up a virtual machine and poke around in there, see how it feels)

[junior relic]

hmm how do i setup a vm>

?

[sinful moon]

No Windows BS, an interface and OS you can customize however you want, sane package mangement (update all your apps easy) and more

[grizzled wing]

search Oracle virtual machine

[molten sky]

did broadcom kill vmware ws yet or nah

[grizzled wing]

Virtual Box

[molten sky]

if vmware ws is still alive i'd say that over vbox tbh

[sinful moon]

VMware Workstation Pro is now free, but you have to jump through their awful website

[molten sky]

never really liked vbox

[fossil merlin]

Hello uwu

[junior relic]

ok lemme search virutal box

[fallen burrow]

Vbox is better

[sinful moon]

but I would stil recommend Workstatio Pro

[molten sky]

worth the pain to avoid virtualbox

[grizzled wing]

VMware is better than VirtualBox

[molten sky]

lol

[sinful moon]

Nah Kim

[blazing granite]

I download wine 😂

[molten sky]

the only reason vbox was better was because it supported snapshots while the free version of vmware did not, but with vmware workstation now being free, it lost that advantage

[grizzled wing]

grep 🍇

[junior relic]

ok so

[fallen burrow]

It’s not VMWare. Fuck Broadcom.

[junior relic]

vmware correct

[molten sky]

okay yeah fuck broadcom but the product is still better

[sinful moon]

One better, I actually did the logo lol

[molten sky]

i 100% support using vbox on principle

just gotta know the product is lesser

[sinful moon]

as if Oracle is any better

[grizzled wing]

use which ever you like and works on your machine

[sinful moon]

remember what they did to Sun Microsystems

[molten sky]

either will get you there at the end of the day, it's a lot of bickering here about preference, lol

[fossil merlin]

How are we tn?

[molten sky]

too sober

otherwise nb

[sinful moon]

lol fair enough

[grizzled wing]

solving a case of windows

[blazing granite]

I remember

[fossil merlin]

They have stores for that >.<

[molten sky]

#neverforget

[grizzled wing]

forget what?

[fossil merlin]

What's happening?

[junior relic]

okkkkkk wait tysm btw lemme download it rq

[molten sky]

11/22

[sinful moon]

Oracle killing Solaris and much much much more

[blazing granite]

Sun was fun, they sent me a Solaris x86 to test, when I enrolled in their developers program

[grizzled wing]

new user using custom windows

[molten sky]

in other news ---

[grizzled wing]

22/11 haha

[molten sky]

i had a guy dm me earlier for help on an open source project i maintain

[grizzled wing]

hah

[fallen burrow]

I need to install w11 to see how many upsells they added

[molten sky]

after some nonsense where he couldn't figure out how to paste commands, this guy starts asking me if i like to eat meat and about some political expat

[fallen burrow]

I counted 6 on my latest windows 10 install

Just on the installer

[blazing granite]

on other news shame when OS/2 was killed, I liked that OS

[molten sky]

where OS/3

when* OS/3

[sinful moon]

It's not so bad on Pro, but I also configure Local Group Policy to like disable that on my personal machines if they're not just going to be Linux

[grizzled wing]

copy and paste "do you eat meat?"

[sinful moon]

so to be fair, I don't get most of them since they're often time delayed and stuff

[molten sky]

a brave soul

i wouldn't dare go down that path

[grizzled wing]

did you see tib3rius video? the Windows staff used pirated exploit on his paid version machine

[sinful moon]

Yeah I have one single pesonal Windows computer at this point lol

[molten sky]

my god you have no idea how much i'm hoping this new co doesn't stick me with a windows laptop

just give me mac at this point idec

[fallen burrow]

I’ve completely cut out Windows from my life, although CAD might be an issue. I got Fusion360 to work, but it runs pretty poorly

Due to the program creating completely different windows and containers with each menu

[grizzled wing]

Windows is trash

[sinful moon]

Yeah just about the only reason it's even in rotation is because I have to admin it at work

[molten sky]

CAD is literally the only thing I've had to boot into windows for

and that's not gonna last long

[grizzled wing]

if windows was not forced upon every org it would die away as it should

[junior relic]

guys

this is confusing 😭

[molten sky]

same

[junior relic]

what do i import

[grizzled wing]

youtube "how to install virtual box"

[molten sky]

or vmware workstation if you did that

[junior relic]

its installed but idk how to do it

[fallen burrow]

You need an ISO file to import into your virtual machine

[junior relic]

how do i get one

?

[molten sky]

(youtube is your best friend here, actually)

[junior relic]

❤️

[grizzled wing]

youtube "how to load linux on VM"

[junior relic]

what about windows

[fallen burrow]

I think Linux Mint has a VMware/virtualbox installation package if you look on their website

Same with Debian

[junior relic]

ive never used linux personally

[blazing granite]

I love a good asado (BBQ)

[molten sky]

as to what distro, maybe start off with kubuntu or mint since those are the most like windows UX wise and have large support communities

[sinful moon]

Windows needs license keys, and you can only use it for a limited time or limited features without.

[grizzled wing]

download a Linux distro .iso file > upload to VM hypervisor

[junior relic]

my brain hurts

[molten sky]

👀

[junior relic]

how are yall so smart

[blazing granite]

actually books are your best friends, but a lot of people prefer videos nowadays 🙂

[junior relic]

😭

[grizzled wing]

youtube

[sinful moon]

Not sure what the eyes are for, but I will not state more on this matter than I have lol

[junior relic]

how did ya start off

[molten sky]

I am 100% team books for most things, but I've found books are difficult for tech stuff nowadays with how quickly everything changes

[blazing granite]

experience, you'll get there

[sinful moon]

mhmm

[molten sky]

like getting certified in anything security is a crapshoot by book nowadays, unless you're on the comptia train

[junior relic]

holy shoot yall are geniuses

wtf is a iso file

[sinful moon]

Nah like said above, it just comes with experience

[junior relic]

distro iso file and a mv hypervisor

[junior relic]

i hopeeeeeeeeeeeee

[grizzled wing]

just a file that hold a operating system

[sinful moon]

an .iso is a disc image of a virtual CD ROM or DVD

[molten sky]

tldr; iso is like the file form of a CD

damnit

[junior relic]

bro ima be so honest with u

that didnt help

[grizzled wing]

💿

[junior relic]

this better ^

[sinful moon]

so you provide it to the VM, so that it thinks it's booting from a CD like in real life

[junior relic]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[grizzled wing]

the VM is like you running a whole new Windows computer that holds a another computer inside it

[fallen burrow]

Distro is a type(?) of Linux with a set of pre-installed applications

There’s more that goes into it but that’s pretty much all you need to know.

[molten sky]

aight time to learn kubernetes! (/s)

[junior relic]

ya i seen like videos of people running viruses in them

[sinful moon]

To be clear, that is not something you should ever try until you are far more experienced

[blazing granite]

so you hate yourself a bit 😉 😂

[grizzled wing]

VM is how to practice cyber security

[junior relic]

why not?

[molten sky]

(do not do this until you actually know what's up --- things can escape the vm onto your host in certain situations)

[junior relic]

oh shit

[molten sky]

oh no i already do k8s, i meant for rune 😶

[junior relic]

thats not good ty for advising that i appreciate it

[sinful moon]

Because if you don't know how to protect and isolate your VM, it can infect your host system. Just don't take it lightly

[grizzled wing]

i learned some kubernetes, its complex

[junior relic]

i wont risk it until ik alot more abt computers!

[junior relic]

wtf

whats a kubernetes

[grizzled wing]

never mind it for now

[molten sky]

to be clear, realistically, odds are damn near 0 --- but those issues DO exist sometimes, and you should know how to mitigate

[junior relic]

😭 i probably should nvm it

[sinful moon]

a type of contianer (basically mini VM) which can be distributed over multiple servers. This is not a concern you need to know just yet

[junior relic]

i wouldnt risk it then i dont wanna ruin my pc haha

[blazing granite]

if he didn't know what an iso was, I guess that kubernetes it's not the best action plan 😉 😂

[molten sky]

trial by fire

if he can't debug my cluster by EOD, time to start the termination paperwork

[junior relic]

who wanna help me set this badboy up - its ok if not

[blazing granite]

more like throwing him into a flaming pit 😛

[sinful moon]

Honestly it's best you learn and research yourself

[junior relic]

just a bit confusing for me haha

[molten sky]

unironically how i learned k8s tho, was the only person available & reachable during a regional outage on a weekend

[grizzled wing]

Rune the goal

• download a virtual machine hypervisor (VMware)
• download a linux .iso file by going to Kali website
• download the LINUX MINT for the VM hypervisor you have
• install linux mint VM

[queen flare]

for someone who's just learning javascript, what would be some easy self projects i can make, that i can put on my portfolio?

[sinful moon]

Search on google and as people said above even YouTube

[molten sky]

~~ lol this guy wants to learn js ~~ (kidding)

[queen flare]

preferrably related to cybersecurity

[fallen burrow]

I wouldn’t install Kali as my first distro

[grizzled wing]

freecodecamp has projects for this

[fallen burrow]

Linux Mint, Kubuntu and Endeavor are great options

[grizzled wing]

i had to put something down, but agreed

[fallen burrow]

I really like Endeavor

[sinful moon]

Yeah Kali is a poor choice if you're not even familiar with "a Linux" lol

[molten sky]

mint and kubuntu will have the most documentation

endevour if you wanna tinker

[fallen burrow]

Tinker while still having a minimal but functional desktop

[sinful moon]

I just say Kubuntu or Xubuntu for most tbh

[grizzled wing]

< updated >

[queen flare]

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/full-javascript-course-for-beginners/
this?

[junior relic]

so if not kali which one do i get?

[sinful moon]

KDE Neon is neat but it's a bit too bleeding edge UI wise

[molten sky]

it pains me to recommend cause fuck canonical but it's kinda the easiest to learn on still

[grizzled wing]

that is to learn it, which you stated you already know it

[molten sky]

kubuntu is my rec

[fallen burrow]

Linux Mint or Kubuntu

[sinful moon]

Agred for all the same reasons

And yeah just install Kubuntu

[junior relic]

64bit download>

?

[sinful moon]

idk why Mint stil exists lol

[fallen burrow]

It was alright the last time I booted it

But yeah 64 bit download unless your computer is 15 years old

[grizzled wing]

Rune, watch a youtube video and try things

[blazing granite]

Kali not really the best choice for a first distro, let's start with arch 😂

[molten sky]

mint is in a weird place where gnome2 is so damn out of date and well, dated looking and feeling, but gnome3 is just straight shit, and other DEs are all covered already, and it's kinda stuck

[sinful moon]

Fair but like, besides Cinnamon, it's sole contribution was "we provide propritary codes easlier than Ubuntu does".

[fallen burrow]

Cinnamon is all I’ve ever used

[junior relic]

holy 4.4gb

[molten sky]

tracks

[queen flare]

eh i'll search up the projects then
thanks for citing it

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @grizzled wing (current: #39 - 231)

[grizzled wing]

Linux Mint

[sinful moon]

and that's kinda been superseeded by, Cinnamon is avaliable in any distro and mp3 and a couple others are free to use now

[blazing granite]

I love cinnamon. I used it for a long time

[queen flare]

what's wrong with mint?

[grizzled wing]

everyone agrees mint is for new users

[molten sky]

but like, kde exists

[sinful moon]

okay maybe I'll be the odd one out for once lol

[grizzled wing]

KDE is awesome

[blazing granite]

mate 😂

[sinful moon]

I just remember historical issues with Mint for sure which probably shape my view

[junior relic]

its downloading

[queen flare]

i think mint is great if you're just switching to linux from windows
prolly a better choice than ubuntu

[grizzled wing]

i say Mat-ay

[blazing granite]

you get the old gnome look with mate

[brittle drum]

Hi

[molten sky]

mint is mostly stable nowdays but yeah still the odd bug

[molten sky]

any other ways are wrong

[queen flare]

howdy

[fallen burrow]

Man, KDE before KDE6 was miserable

[molten sky]

i'll accept either gnome or gnome but mate is always mate

[grizzled wing]

🦂

[sinful moon]

yeah MATE or KDE are far better biggen DEs than modern GNOME whew

[grizzled wing]

GNOME is the foot, works for me

[molten sky]

modern gnome is more fischer priced than the new new new windows 11 settings pane

[grizzled wing]

[blazing granite]

mate🧉

[sinful moon]

still love XFCE myself, but I get that it's hard to sell even with good themes lol

[molten sky]

man i love xfce but fuck setting it up

i don't wanna tinker anymore

i just want my shit to work

[sinful moon]

export your dot files for it

[molten sky]

i don't even have up to date dotfiles

[sinful moon]

then it'll just like do the thing

[grizzled wing]

Xfce is ugly

[molten sky]

i just want to install and get busy

[brittle drum]

gnome is best

[molten sky]

stock? sure, but not when custom

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

[grizzled wing]

only used stock

[molten sky]

kali's xfce is solid imo as well

not perfect

but nice

[grizzled wing]

GNOME is not the best, and i like GNOME

[sinful moon]

Common conception, you have already demonstrated that you haven't ever looked into theming Linux. Just using the default themes with your distro is not the only thing you ever have to do

[fallen burrow]

Gnome is so ugly man

[grizzled wing]

i have themed my , but for most part have not

[queen flare]

thing with xfce is, it works
when you can't get an app to work with hyprland, you open xfce

[fallen burrow]

why do all of the native app icons look like a high school intern designed them

[sinful moon]

that sounds a bit more harsh than I meant lol, but yeah. I used to create some themes for Linux windowing engines and GUI engines

[molten sky]

gnome is if the mac ui and windows 11 settings ui merged and got approximately 8 1/2 times shittier

[blazing granite]

I like it, it's a work on memory lane for me, I used fvwm for a long time

[sinful moon]

yeah GNOME 3 is just awful lol

[grizzled wing]

GNOME is mac-ish and is why i like it

[blazing granite]

that's when everything went to shit with gnome

[grizzled wing]

with Gnome

[queen flare]

i used ubuntu in my uni and the configurations were shit
so i hated ubuntu from that, and then started hating gnome as a side effect of that

[sinful moon]

Yeah I got into Ubuntu in the GNOME 2 era when it was a bit more sane lol

[grizzled wing]

linux users all have strong opinions

[sinful moon]

and even then moved onto Xubuntu fast around 2007

[molten sky]

gnome is what you give your 83 y/o grandmother for a facebook machine when she complains about her ipad not working well

[brittle drum]

New gnome 4.7 works perfectly with ubuntu new version. It's fast and good

[blazing granite]

I love gnome in the beginning, mate still has that kind of old gnome charm

[grizzled wing]

i guess i am 83

[sinful moon]

mhmm Mate preserves the proper GNOME 2 vibes

[queen flare]

linux users to windows users - don't use windows, any linux distro is better
linux users to other linux users - your linux distro is shit

[blazing granite]

they fork it gnome 2 🙂

[brittle drum]

but i use windows and mac only

[sinful moon]

I am more than aware

lol thus my statement

[molten sky]

tbf both statements are true if windows is bottom of the barrel

[quiet escarp]

i come this server today but someone dm to me about "do you need hacking services?" so i just block him, is it often thing in here?

[grizzled wing]

forks and spoons

[grizzled wing]

yes

[molten sky]

lmfao, drop em in chat and he'll get the boot

[chilly veldt]

So tired

[blazing granite]

I love both for differents moments 😂

[grizzled wing]

spoon to cut out your enemy's heart

[sinful moon]

That is spam and unsolicted DMs like that are against the rules of the server, I'd say notifify a mod about it

[quiet escarp]

okay but how?

[molten sky]

i don't get much spam or hatemail anymore since i went inactive on here ,-,

[queen flare]

never had one offering services to me
usually they are the one's asking me to hack their ex or something

[molten sky]

i enjoyed reading them sometimes

[grizzled wing]

all goes to /dev/null

[molten sky]

^

[kindred yew]

Nobody asked me that.... Am I not good enough to be scammed?

[sinful moon]

okie time for food, I will be back

[blazing granite]

it's in the rules that you agree when you join the server 🙂

[grizzled wing]

i had to block all DMs after so long having them open. just too much garbage with more and more new users

[molten sky]

rules? you mean that checklist?

[kindred yew]

Morning chat

[grizzled wing]

the other 🦖

[kindred yew]

and Good night to the people from other side of the world

[grizzled wing]

🌐

[tame abyss]

yo goodnight

[tame abyss]

hello

[queen flare]

lmfao is a chinese hacker isn't it

[grizzled wing]

what are you hacking today?

[kindred yew]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-worldwide-gif-26368506

[quiet escarp]

he didn't joined this server, no single server same, but how he dm to me? hmm

[grizzled wing]

discord settings

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/glow-mr-burns-the-simpsons-alien-nightmare-gif-4436471

[brittle drum]

gnome vs mate is similar comp... like burp vs zap

[tame abyss]

hey guys

[queen flare]

i'm feeling weirdly curious regarding the origin of this gif

[grizzled wing]

oh the creator is here

[queen flare]

greetings mate, how are you

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-you-guys-goonies-gif-7109252

[tame abyss]

ive been off for awhile

[kindred yew]

Burp Suite Basics

[tame abyss]

im good

[kindred yew]

https://tenor.com/view/imma-be-honest-im-a-noob-connerbobay-im-just-starting-amateur-newbie-gif-19069154

[grizzled wing]

that is a good module

[queen flare]

and i've 100% seen you somewhere before but it says you're a new user

[tame abyss]

yep baisicially

[kindred yew]

After that there is OWASP Top 10

[tame abyss]

YOOOOO same

[kindred yew]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-kid-shouting-yes-yess-gif-12254544011488707697

[brittle drum]

i'm not new

[grizzled wing]

learning all the solid pajama things

[kindred yew]

Hi not new... I am pyjamasaur

[grizzled wing]

haa

[tame abyss]

ive been doing a lot of html over the past week