general

[karmic hemlock]

Yeah, old ass pc

[opaque flax]

16gb of ram is very cheap so

[karmic hemlock]

Right that's why I said I'd try that first

[jolly aspen]

Gosh I have a few sticks laying around too

[karmic hemlock]

Worst case it just shifts the bottleneck over to the cpu and then I get a new cpu

[jolly aspen]

Solid plan

[karmic hemlock]

But even a 5600x only costs about $120

[jolly aspen]

You have another device? Is this just for the server?

[karmic hemlock]

I'm willing to pay that price for a sick ass modded server that doesn't buffer

[jolly aspen]

Are you the only one using the server?

[karmic hemlock]

Just for the server but also QOL improvement, the pc has been fairly slow with multitasking recently as well

[karmic hemlock]

Myself and a few friends

[opaque flax]

What does Minecraft servers minimum requirements look like?

[jolly aspen]

Shit, have the friends chip in a bit

[mellow gull]

Vanilla would be fine with 8gb

Modded, though?

Varies, a lot.

[karmic hemlock]

Depends on how many mods, the size, etc

[jolly aspen]

Heloooo gaww

[eternal timber]

Don’t rob a bank

[mellow gull]

Hallo, ronin

[karmic hemlock]

For example, running tryhackme labs, a couple Google tabs, Spotify, and discord leaves my pc a little tight on ram/performance in general

[eternal timber]

Hi Gaww

[mellow gull]

Hola Kamma

[eternal timber]

Daily baby pic

[opaque flax]

Are you running the server o your main gaming rig?

Not on a separate device?

[jolly aspen]

Yea that’s why I asked if it’s just for Minecraft. Jack that puppy up

[karmic hemlock]

Yes, on the device i am playing on

[opaque flax]

That would do it yup

[karmic hemlock]

I don't have another device with a reliable enough power supply to move it over

My laptop would die in 2 hours

[mellow gull]

I mean that's okay if your setup is pretty beefy, I run Essential to play with friends sometimes
But it's pretty resource intensive

[opaque flax]

8GB of ram tho gaww

[mellow gull]

Only 8GB?

[karmic hemlock]

Yep, just 8 gigs

[viscid blaze]

any idea on how to get sub role

[mellow gull]

[karmic hemlock]

My pc was screaming all day today

[jolly aspen]

Yea. That’s basically Spotify these days

Haha

[mellow gull]

Homie pocket raspberries have 8gb

I feel sorry for you

[opaque flax]

Verify

[jolly aspen]

By subscribing and /verify

[karmic hemlock]

I was too cheap to upgrade earlier on 😭

[mellow gull]

It's like 30$ if that?

I believe in you, dude

[karmic hemlock]

In all fairness I got this PC right before covid, before processors became super cheap overnight

It had pretty good specs for its time

[mellow gull]

Yeah we got hit with that tech boost outta nowhere

[jolly aspen]

Nothin wrong with that. But if you’ve got a saddle for 32gb, that’s worth it to fill

[mellow gull]

Nowadays standard workstations got better specs than my PC

[jolly aspen]

The cpu is probably just fine for lots of things. But ram is getting filled fast these days

[dark frost]

I need to upgrade my computer too , 2019 i build it

[karmic hemlock]

To put it into perspective, the processor im currently running which is now worth $60-70 was worth roughly $180-200 when I bought the pc

[jolly aspen]

The ryzen5’s are still nice I think

[karmic hemlock]

And even a significantly better cpu is only worth $120 today

[eternal timber]

Can’t wait to start MMA

[karmic hemlock]

(Obviously it depends on what better means to you, for me it's the Ryzen 5 5600x)

[jolly aspen]

Craving blood and sweat or what

[karmic hemlock]

Hell yeah dude

[eternal timber]

Which man isn’t

[jolly aspen]

Oh

I am not man

I am sloth

[opaque flax]

I’m a rabbit

Well

I’m a ghost rabbit

[mellow gull]

I'm a cat

[karmic hemlock]

I cant wait to choke my pc out again tomorrow for the sake of playing minecraft

[mellow gull]

An alien cat, I guess?

[sinful moon]

idk all, can i run minecraft?

[mellow gull]

I dunno but I don't suppose you could spare a few TBs for a sad little rascal like me?

[sinful moon]

I don’t think the RAID would be very happy with that or that your computer will accept the SAS drives, but I suppose lol

Old screenshot anyways, I’m on Proxmox now

thanks VMware/Broadcom for burning the very last bridge there

[mellow gull]

Someday I too shall be fancy and have a Proxmox setup
But until then I'll be content with standard hosted containerization

[sinful moon]

totally fair. Practically this was overkill until, as you can see above… Media ripping and encoding

[mellow gull]

Yeah when you've got a lot of media and shares that need to be managed it becomes a lot more necessary to have, uh, space and options

[sinful moon]

dem 2x Blu-ray drives in our PowerEdge tower, aw yeaa

Mhmm, ironically none of it actually lives here, that’s on the 48TB NAS 🙃

okay I need to stop bragging but it’s hard to resist

[mellow gull]

I've been living off 1.5tb between an old HDD and a poor SSD for the last four years LMAO

I've needed to desperately upgrade my setup for a bit

[sinful moon]

Trust me I know those days. My 2016 era desktop was like 5x “Just a bunch of disks” configuration lol

[mellow gull]

I don't need particularly much in any case. A small NAS and maybe a teensy homelab for pi-hole and a VPN inter-network routing

[sinful moon]

Yep totally makes sense, we’ve just gone a bit insane with our legal Blu-ray library becoming our own streaming service lol

[mellow gull]

Yeah, and I know "I don't need much" is where it all starts getting out of control

[sinful moon]

There is not one bad questionable movie that my SO won’t buy for the right price lol

It’s okay I offset it with my actually amazing movies and art house stuff lol

[eternal timber]

Flexing

[mellow gull]

How dare you be happy about what you have and have accomplished

[sinful moon]

some of which also borders on my SO telling me “don’t ever complain about my movies being bad because wow this is awful”

lol I gotta remember what that movie was

Oh lol it was PeterJackson’s seminal classic “Braindead” the zombie movie

he’s one to talk since I had to scroll past The Emoji Movie to even find it in our recents lol

[fringe nacelle]

Sup yah

[sinful moon]

How’s it going?

[fringe nacelle]

Decent, on lunch at work rn. Spent it doing some HTB stuff.

How about yourself

[sinful moon]

lol winding down for bed because it is far too late, but hanging in for a sec

I just couldn’t help but chime in when someone was questioning if they could run minecraft or not without their computer complaining

[fringe nacelle]

Well hopefully you have a good sleep. Also mc is a curse for all PCs imo lol||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_ _ _ _ _ _ _ ty

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sinful moon (current: #34 - 270)

[fringe nacelle]

Lol I messed it up

[sinful moon]

That’s actually really fun to tap at on tablet lol

[fringe nacelle]

Yee, replace it with pops instead of the lines

[mellow narwhal]

Not fun to click with a mouse

[sinful moon]

lol lame my keyboard case + touchpad makes it trivial

yeah lol

[mellow gull]

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[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @fringe nacelle (current: #1049 - 4)

[sinful moon]

OMG no, you messed up my combo there!

I was like 95% of the way there lol

[mellow gull]

Hahahaha, victory is mine!

[fringe nacelle]

Lol I wonder if it's because I'm on mobile rn

[dusky vine]

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/boilerctf2

Any one explain me

[mellow gull]

#room-help

[sinful moon]

okay done, what did I win?

besides a glorious waste of time

[fringe nacelle]

Lol I'll make a better one when I hop back in this chat just for yah that's the prize

[sinful moon]

lol sounds good

pro strats for the above, do quite a bit of tapping on tablet, and then fill in the gaps with touchpad

I’m really putting this M4 iPad Pro to good use, as you can tell

[wooden totem]

can you answer me but one question

[sinful moon]

what may that be

[mellow gull]

Wait so the synology NAS setups have room for NVMes and bay hard drives?

[sinful moon]

because he fits he sits

[sinful moon]

That I can’t answer, we have quite an old model that we’ve expanded over time. Ours just has SATA bays with no NVM.e

But yeah you can just upgrade drive by drive even if you replace them all one by one by rebuilding the NAS

[mellow gull]

It looks like new ones have slots on the bottom specifically for M.2s

Which is pretty neat

[near sapphire]

this sucks, why does my laptop speaker keep breaking for no reason

[sinful moon]

I’ll just say as neat and convenient as Synology is, maybe consider building your own with FreeNAS/TrueNAS, whatever. My SO went with this before we even started dating since it’s what he administrates at work

but as if I’m one to talk, getting a used PowerEdge for the same reason lol

Synology be expensive

[mellow gull]

I'll check TrueNAS out

I'm a relatively simple creature and don't necessarily mind paying a certain fee for not wanting to rip my skin off and cry because something ends up being ridiculously complicated

[sinful moon]

Mhmm, you can get some pretty cheap generic NAS enclsoures/intergrated computers for significantly cheaper, but yeah much more of the setup burden is on you as a result

totally fair

All that being said, yeah Synology is quite nice and can even run your containers if you wish

[glass smelt]

Hello guys, how to hack my own discord account? I lost it 2y ago

[sinful moon]

Contact Discord Support

[mellow gull]

Contact Discord support for assistance.

[glass smelt]

Oh ok thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mellow gull (current: #80 - 102)

[glass smelt]

I suppose not trying to hack my neighborhood wifi

[mellow gull]

It seems like every component of it is replaceable/upgradeable, more or less. RAM, storage (naturally), and I assume other parts of it are as well, so I could see that being a good use of it.

[sinful moon]

That would not be advisable and is illegal. Nor would it get you your Discord account back.

[sinful moon]

Ours is still plugging away on a mid 2010s Intel Atom CPU lol. Yeah they don’t really take much, it’s the storage that matters

Just be mindful of Linux vulnerabilities for any services you enable, but that goes without saying. Typically Synology patches them quite quick

[mellow gull]

Oh cool, they even have their own virtualization software (I'd probably use something else, though)

[sinful moon]

but lol no one exposes their NAS to the internet… I say when there’s hundreds of thousands of NASes exposed. So it’s not hard to do better than that

[sinful moon]

Yeah for sure. I’ve heard of people using and enjoying Synology for running Docker containers, but beyond VMs, yeah I’d rather have a bit more control than that anyways

as mentioned before I just have that big iron that runs Proxmox, but honestly a bunch of smaller machines in a cluster make for a more sensible Proxmox setup for most users

[mellow gull]

I was just about to say that I'd probably prefer to use the NAS for its intended use-case of having an absolute ton of storage

Then use a home server setup for containers and VMs using something like proxmox

[sinful moon]

mhm ours is pure storage indeed, I like these to be segmented in use if not actual networking wise

For a typical almost normie use case, server runs Plex Server, server indexes the files on the NAS, client runs Plex, asks Plex where the files are, and streams from the NAS. It is seamless in this usecase

although to be fair we are explicitly not doing transcoding, just direct play

[mellow gull]

I'll keep that in mind for if I ever start acquiring a truly phenomenal collection of media

[sinful moon]

mhmm, if you do, keep Jellyfin in mind. Its much more open source friendly, slightly less supported but still a fantastic solution

vs Plex that is

That probably would have been my choice but when you have an SO who also manages this stuff with you and does half the work as well, gotta compromise lol. Not like Plex is much of an issue besides a bit more corporate these days

[rapid merlin]

I had a dream I got another cat called specs

[sinful moon]

aw, also where did your color go? Didn’t you have another account?

[mellow gull]

So, theoretically, in my intended usecase
There'd be a primary home server running Proxmox. This manages virtualization and containerisation for other running services and docker instances, as well as acts as the connection to the NAS, and probably uses a tunneled VPN for client devices like, say a host PC or mobile device to connect to it, where they can then interact with the NAS and the running services.

Does that sound more or less correct? I'm not very adept at this quite yet.

[rapid merlin]

I got compromised and lost the 2FA for my account

[sinful moon]

Oh I’m sorry to hear that :c

[rapid merlin]

It’s okay, it was my mistake

[sinful moon]

No that sounds more than correct. Thus far however we haven’t opened up many services to the world. Plex is to accounts we allow, but that’s it’s own proprietary solution. Wireguard which is neat or Tailscale from what I’ve heard are good VPN solutions unless you have a badass router/firewall where you do it there. But the latter part of that is my work thinking talking.

[naive violet]

Most of the badass router or firewalls that are worth getting (imo) just do wireguard or openvpn

[sinful moon]

Yep makes sense

[naive violet]

The proprietary ones are bad because evil

[mellow gull]

I've heard good things about wireguard, so that'd probably be what I use.

[sinful moon]

I miss the days of router custom firmware. I’m sure it still exists to some extent but not like it was in its heyday

[naive violet]

Wireguard is lovely

[sinful moon]

indeed

[naive violet]

I do similar, I use Wireguard for this

Used to use openvpn years ago

[mellow gull]

I heard openvpn has had a few issues lately.

[sinful moon]

Yeah OpenVPN makes sense for massive infrastructure like THM with momentum on this tech, but Wireguard is just significantly more lightweight and etc. I can’t say I’ve heard of many OpenVPN issues as such beyond fundamental technology underpinnings in how it was designed

[mellow gull]

Most of it seems to stem from "it's getting old," tbf

[sinful moon]

mhmm, in my understanding it’s just kind of a bulky protocol compared to newer solutions which can get by much more efficiently

I can’t speak at all about Tailscale but people are raving about it. I’ll do more research eventually, but iirc that is a centerally hosted solution vs Wireguard which is much more traditional site to site

as in there’s like a tailscale website and account behind it in my understanding which I wouldn’t nessessary trust immediately, just “easy”

[sick lance]

Have you listened to any of the new Album from Vukovi?

[mellow gull]

Looking at Wireguard, it seems like it's as simple as just establishing a set of approved peers that can connect and denying everything else by default?

[sinful moon]

I believe so from what I rememer

[naive violet]

Only the tracks that have come out so far, not sure when the whole album is out?

[sinful moon]

but don’t ask me I’ve been helping a client set up Azure to firewall IPSec VPNs all week and my mind is polluted with that

[sick lance]

Today 😄

[naive violet]

Yeah, you give out config files that have crypto keys in for your users

AllowedIPs is something else

[sinful moon]

this client’s internal IT literally asked… “wait why are the gateway IPs different on the Azure and the firewall side, explain that to me”

holy crap my dude

[mellow gull]

[rapid merlin]

Time is going fast today

[sinful moon]

Indeed, which is a signal I need to head to bed critically lol. I’m on one of the good sleep cycle thresholds despite staying up way too late.

Goodnight all!

[mellow gull]

Get good rest!

[mellow gull]

Please be safe, all.

[sinful moon]

Nice goes hand in hand with the US’s extreme cold conditions, which have thankfully mostly abaited. But yes do be safe

In the north we got national weather warnings including the text “frostbite to exposed skin within as little as 30 minutes” 🙃

[hot current]

the new challenges tab overview goes fucking ballisitc

[mossy river]

Ahh, I was looking for an excuse to skip my lectures

[sick lance]

My area has completely shut down, we have 90MPH winds today

[rapid merlin]

Gn sleep well

[mossy river]

Looks like the alerts are only for Scotland and Nort Ireland atm

[sick lance]

Ah!

Yeah, we have a serious risk to life today

[mellow gull]

Ah
My SO is in Scotland... Should probably reach out and tell them to be safe.

[arctic cradle]

90MPH? ever gave a thought of doing sky diving with wingsuit?

[mossy river]

I'm a flight risk (very small, might take flight due to fast winds)

[cerulean aurora]

does any one have webapp pentest list?

starting from small vulnab to the extreme 1

[mossy river]

I'm not sure I understand your question

[mellow gull]

OWASP BWA will satisfy any testing requirements for most people.

[brisk tree]

does anyone know of any sites like likedin that are good

[naive violet]

Lmao

[naive violet]

Owasp wstg is good

Wait, I'm not actually sure what you're looking for. Web apps to hack? Guidance on hacking them?

[cerulean aurora]

i need a list of all possible vulnab for a webapp

[mossy river]

Oh gosh

[naive violet]

That's not possible, but look at the owasp wstg

It will give you a good testing guide

[cerulean aurora]

i just want a naem list

[mellow gull]

There are so many

[cerulean aurora]

atleast i want 200+

[cerulean aurora]

fr

also payload list for that for all possible vunlb

i have this already

[mossy river]

I have a feeling you're trying to make an automated tool?

[cerulean aurora]

https://github.com/six2dez/OneListForAll

OneListForAll

[mellow gull]

I can't tell if you want labs or tools at this point.

And if labs, why 200+

[naive violet]

I would really recommend reading the web security testing guide.
There's more to vulnerabilities than just slapping payloads in every field

[naive violet]

Names of vulnerabilities eg xss, sqli

[mellow gull]

Ohhh, so types of vulnerabilities.
I repeat my prior statement - there are so many.

[pliant onyx]

There's only 10 you need to worry about

The OWASP Top 10

[wooden totem]

Why do week calendars start with sun fucking day! Why can't I start and organize my day with monday who the fuck thought sunday should be the first day of the 7 days

[rapid merlin]

The rain is nice

[finite basalt]

Morning 😎

[finite basalt]

Man we've got wind at the moment and it's howling down the back road and bringing all the bins with jt

And the locals haven't quite figured out that if you put the bin close to the house and in line with it preferably the bin might not get sent to yonder far

[sick lance]

Religion, historical and cultural reasons.

[finite basalt]

Been thuds and crashes since at least 5 this morning

[sick lance]

I mean, the wind doesn't blow in a straight line...

[rapid merlin]

It’s a bit windy down here too

I’m going to go back out soon

Just to ask the gym how much

[finite basalt]

It blows relatively straight when it's funneled down a straight backroad

😭

[sick lance]

Would you like to swap wind?

[finite basalt]

The 3 roads either side make it feel like a mini milton keynes it's all very square and straight roads with terraced houses so the wind just funnels along

I don't think it'll make a huge difference, house already shakes and makes funny noises a little when the wind blows 🤣

[sick lance]

..We're going to be getting hit with 90 MPH winds today...

[finite basalt]

I mean the entire city I'm in is basically built like a wind funnel

In fact they built skyscrapers and realised afterwards how it affected the wind and had to add structures to slow the wind down

[fringe nacelle]

Sounds fun

[mellow gull]

I'm really quite worried...

Worst storm in over a decade.

[cerulean aurora]

yes i want as many as i can that can be found in webapp

[rapid merlin]

I don’t like how restricted AI is nowadays

[verbal canyon]

I am slaving it till death🤓

[fringe nacelle]

Where at? Florida was just covered in snow, and it doesn't snow down here.... (Granted it was just hard ice) But pretty much snow to Floridians

[mellow gull]

Northern Europe, primarily North Ireland and Scotland

[fringe nacelle]

Well stay safe if you're out there

[mellow gull]

I'm not in danger but people I care about are.

Hopefully everyone stays safe and unharmed

[rapid merlin]

In London it ain’t even gonna be that bad

[rapid merlin]

It doesn’t even work as good as it used to when it comes to freedom of speech

[wooden totem]

you just have to ask it correctly

[rapid merlin]

Are there any videos on it ? I noticed it wouldn’t even give me links anymore

It’s become more and more restricted

[wooden totem]

You specifically have to mention the word "search" or "find"

[rapid merlin]

Ah okay I’ve seen books on using chat gpt to its best use

[whole gazelle]

hi fellow hackr

[mellow gull]

Howdy

[rapid merlin]

Thanks though, I’ll test it out

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wooden totem (current: #165 - 48)

[mossy river]

My ML has been training for more than two hours

https://tenor.com/view/sola-me-siento-i-feel-alone-alone-lonely-sad-gif-16574910

[wooden totem]

it gave me 10 tips btw, cant fit it in chat tho

[whole gazelle]

yooooo you doing ML??? this is soooo craazy

[rapid merlin]

Ohh okay thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wooden totem (current: #162 - 49)

[rapid merlin]

You got your own, that’s cool

[elder peak]

you can self host ollama

[sick lance]

Uh, I need to either re-install Virtual Studio, or JetBrainz.

[whole gazelle]

you have unsupervised learning and no supervised learning? supervised learning in ML is fun

also those algs in ML are awesome

[vital granite]

Hello please is there any possible way to hack a projector

[sick lance]

Why would you want to?

[vital granite]

It's a challenge we were asked to research

I just joined the university

Is that enough info

[sick lance]

Then you can use Google. 😄

[rapid merlin]

I just made a Korean mince stir fry, yum

[vital granite]

Can't find nothing there

[near sapphire]

you're so friendly and polite to chatgpt lol

[whole gazelle]

oh yeah frfr

[sick lance]

Then we can't help you with University work. 🙂

[mellow gull]

You gotta be nice to the machines, man. When they eventually take over the world you don't wanna be one of the people that was mean to them.

[whole gazelle]

fair approach

[vital granite]

Oh I'm trying to gather as much info as possible

Any help at all?

[sick lance]

No, as this would break our community rule #5

[near sapphire]

so ur only being nice cause ur scared of them 🤔

[mellow gull]

Being nice is easy. Being mean takes headspace.

[whole gazelle]

you must show your superiority to mr chatgpt!!!!!

[near sapphire]

I would like to see all the popular llms battle it out to find out whos the best

[whole gazelle]

define how thier battle would be like

like how they should fight

[mellow gull]

Rap battle.

[whole gazelle]

personally i would like to see ai inside robots doin sum star wars lightsabers battle or something like that

that would be awesome

[verbal canyon]

Skynet got nothing on me🤓

[near sapphire]

If i just leave two llms talking with each other how do you think the conversation will go

[elder peak]

world domination

[odd lintel]

Lol

[near sapphire]

waittt since when chatgpt could link yt videos??

[odd lintel]

it can do much more!

Like it can suggest you to watch sponsored videos

[quick plank]

5-o gonna be crazy

the programming is gonna be so much better

[wooden totem]

thats not how gpt scaling works 🕵️

[quick plank]

its gonna get better **

[near sapphire]

i'm trying to get gpt to say some bad things abt deepseek but its too nice

[whole gazelle]

wouldn't be so sure about it

[wooden totem]

extroverted people using chatgpt is chaos lol

[quick plank]

we'll see but if they dont fix the text in pics imma crash out 😂

[whole gazelle]

wdym? what's wrong with text in pic

[quick plank]

It never get the text right

[whole gazelle]

oh yeah right

[quick plank]

so much missspelling from dalle

[whole gazelle]

they insert sum placeholders that supposed to look like text

[near sapphire]

lorem ipsum

why is lorem ipsum used btw

literally could be anything else

[wooden totem]

let me demonstrate

[brisk tree]

Yeah the amount of arguments I've had with chatgpt trying to get it to spell things right it to give me exactly what I ask for 🤣

[quick plank]

me too nearly got me crying 😂

[near sapphire]

phicing

[whole gazelle]

this writing looks like 5yr old

[near sapphire]

also where tf did the laptop screen go

[wooden totem]

it will be a lot better when ai has text support, now its just trying to mimic the look of text

[whole gazelle]

dunno. btw lorem ipsum is truncuated version of "dolorem ipsum" which means "pain itself"

[rapid merlin]

PHICHING

[whole gazelle]

stop phinching me mr ai

[wooden totem]

how do people argue with chatgpt lol, its not a human it cant work better under pressure or something you have to be better at it lol

[rapid merlin]

Mike Tyson said he gonna phich someone

😂

I’m such a bishhhh lmao

[rapid merlin]

Did you get this from uni?

[sick lance]

Yeah, it's my AI module.

[rapid merlin]

Ohhh

[pliant onyx]

Ew syllabus

[brisk tree]

I once asked Gemini to put Robert down jr's head on jack sparrow's body and it told me to get help if my mental health was bad 🤣

[verbal canyon]

😂😂😂

[brisk tree]

🤣🤣

[finite basalt]

you look like you're in uni way more than me

you in your final year now?

[sick lance]

This semester I'm in 3 days, yeah final semester 😄

[mossy river]

Scrubz are you doing a masters or bachelors?

[sick lance]

BcS

[mossy river]

Gosh

[sick lance]

You're not doing a masters?

[hushed heath]

[mossy river]

I'm on bachelors too

[finite basalt]

this is my timetable 😭

I am in for four hours a week

[mossy river]

bruh I swear I've done something wrong

[sick lance]

I'm in 15 hours/week.

[finite basalt]

I have been scammed

out of 9250 sterling sheckels

I don't think I spent 15 hours a week in in first year, maybe more like 12 hrs/wk in 1st year, 8 in second and 4 in final

[sick lance]

3rd year I was in around 15 hours too.

Can't comment on year 1-2 as I didn't do them, I done college instead

[finite basalt]

that's fair, I think I'd probably rather have more contact time to be honest but maybe not for my current course content

[arctic cradle]

the name and ID are hidden as they reveal my personal information, either way, lets goooo

[cloud quiver]

Congrats 🙂 🥳 🚀

[arctic cradle]

the last few rounds of it gave a huge level boost, didn't expect to reach 0xD so quick and so sudden

[low hamlet]

hey guys, i work in a pentesting company and my team and i want to expand our expertise in cloud pentesting. Do you know certifications and/or learning materials for that domain? I already found HTB BlackSky labs and the hacktricks certifications though

[graceful mauve]

When I start doing machines on tryhackme, I can just go full aggressive mode on the threading with no delay right

[sick lance]

that depends.

[graceful mauve]

Portswigger and HTB are good references, learn from websites like crackme for encryption and you'll catch up as you go.
You can go for pentest+ which is entry level and OSCP if you want a real challenge

[sick lance]

If you use something like rustscan or ferosbuster, you'll dos the target.

Or there is a chance to.

[sick lance]

GAIC.

[graceful mauve]

There's a tool called cloud hunter which you might find interesting

[sick lance]

GAIC has a certification for cloud pentesting.

[graceful mauve]

I thought people were going to be moving to more proprietary environments this year?

Like enterprises

[sick lance]

That's at the discretion of the enterprises.

[mossy river]

TryHackMe have an #attacking-defending-aws path.

You should also look to do the Azure and AWS certifications offered by the respective companies as understanding the Cloud is really important in attacking it

[graceful mauve]

Do you think that it would be more beneficial to have a professional team working in a SOC for an on-prem database or configure everything correctly within azure

Making sure you got load balances and all the ins and outs of it secured

I'm not a cloud wiz

[sick lance]

How many orgs right now, have a dedicated SoC team?

And how many do you think use third party?

[graceful mauve]

The majority ngl

Or at least they are partially using third party services

Most have a dedicated SOC team if they are good but I don't know much about using cloud tools like SIEM's, IDS/IPS DPI @sick lance

I don't know how they are used properly in the cloud

[low hamlet]

thank you guys!

[graceful mauve]

No problem man, just make sure you're doing cloud penetrating testing courses on portswigger or doing translatable skill courses like finding freed S3 buckets on HTB if they have thay.. Don't worry about crackme, unless you want to get into encryption

I don't know your skill level, but you may like pwn.college, it's a ctf based learning roadmap with different sections to practice by getting a flag

[naive violet]

Probably pretty large before they consider an internal soc

Reasonable size before many orgs even consider a soc of any kind...

It all falls to the IT team

[odd lintel]

Soccer team?

[mellow gull]

Quiet chat tonight.

...Today, rather, for plenty of people

[graceful mauve]

So they mainly hire penetration testers, database specialists, sysadmins, auditors, network engineers, etc?

[eternal timber]

Woah

I somehow managed to fall asleep and woke up at 6 am

[crisp tundra]

Hi all, is it possible to reopen the terminals without losing the data in kali Linux after reboot or shutdown. the option "save session" not working. can any one help me?

[mellow gull]

What data are you trying to save?

[eternal timber]

Previous commands I assume

With the results

[crisp tundra]

The outputs.

[crisp tundra]

Yes

[sick lance]

You could always save the outputs.

[mellow gull]

You could save the outputs in a file?

[sick lance]

command > output.txt

[mellow gull]

Some hypervisors will let you take a "running snapshot" but that's always a gamble and frankly not worth for such a small thing.

[crisp tundra]

Yes

[eternal timber]

Why is it a gamble

[sick lance]

Not a good idea to take a running snapshot.

[eternal timber]

Why

[mellow gull]

Because if there ever ends up being problems with running services or with the bootup (which gets messy on running snapshots) those problem will compound and multiply every time you pull from it.

[crisp tundra]

Sure. But, if the terminal reopens when turn on the vm that will help. Like chrome😅

[mellow gull]

Kali is a bit iffy and needs handholding from time to time in the first place.

[eternal timber]

Oh I see. Thank you, I learnt a lot here

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mellow gull (current: #78 - 103)

[eternal timber]

That makes sense

[sick lance]

You're also snapshotting memory when it's volatile, which could corrupt the snapshot.

And data.

[teal charm]

Cherrytree vs notion, which one you guys use for note taking?

[mellow gull]

Obsidian.

[sick lance]

Neither.

[teal charm]

Which one you use?

[sick lance]

Obsidian.

[teal charm]

I dont know how to use this

[mellow gull]

It's like any other notetaking program really

[eternal timber]

Obsidian sect

[eternal timber]

Watch a video

Easy to learn stuff these days

[teal charm]

Ok thanks

[sick lance]

Cherrytree seemingly bugs out when the notes are too big.

[mellow gull]

Weird problem to have

[sick lance]

I'm debating moving everything over to triluim.

[mellow gull]

I've heard fairly good things about it

[sick lance]

None of my Obsidian notes have any Windows exploitation notes yet, and I'd rather not make a white list folder.

[naive violet]

Not pentesters, not auditors.

[mellow gull]

^ These are usually third party contracts, from my experience.

It'd be weird to in-house that stuff in particular

[graceful mauve]

Sweet

[eternal timber]

https://gitlab.com/kibley/cherrytreetomarkdown

[graceful mauve]

What's usually out of scope for protesters besides not destroying the system or compromising user data that can lead to unprecedented system changes

[sick lance]

Whatever isn't in-scope.

[eternal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/psychic-third-eye-enlightenment-telepathy-gif-22477198

[sick lance]

If you find something and it's not listed as in or out of scope, you make a record, keave it alone and ask.

[graceful mauve]

That's crazy

[sick lance]

Why?

[graceful mauve]

Who knew

[eternal timber]

I think he’s being sarcastic

[sick lance]

Pentesters, hopefully.

[graceful mauve]

Well are you a pentester? Cause I was looking for some specifics

[sick lance]

No, I'm a student.

Ninja is a pentester.

[mellow gull]

The specifics depend on the organization in question and their needs.

But, there are always specifics, even in the loosest of engagements. There needs to be, and they are in no uncertain terms binding and absolute.

[graceful mauve]

It's just complex because of the attack vectors that the company may not consider

Are you obligated to discuss potential attack vectors beforehand or would they have personnel to organize that?

[mellow gull]

You're misunderstanding something. These are businesses seeking a service, and they generally have a good idea of what service they're requiring. Not all engagements are meant to be open-ended. Not all engagements are supposed to look for every vulnerability. Maybe they only care about a webserver, or a domain, or a specific set of IPs attached to project workstations, or whatever.

[eternal timber]

Btw I linked you a script to download your cherry notes in markdown formats

[graceful mauve]

Ohh you're right

[whole gazelle]

have a great day!!!!!

[eternal timber]

Oh yeah

Good morning btw

[shut hawk]

The scope and what you're allowed to do will all be outlined in the RoE document

[graceful mauve]

You too man!

[odd lintel]

Hey there is there any room for learning OS implementation and architecture and all components

[graceful mauve]

That just gave me so much perspective from a little miss in my understanding of penetration testing

+rep fr

[finite basalt]

I just got invited for an interview to become a dev ops engineer 😄

Right chuffed

[shut hawk]

Aye!

Well done lad

[odd lintel]

Congratulations

[mellow gull]

Precisely this. We're not care salesmen trying to add on a fancy warranty or a new speaker setup, we're a service provider that a company has sought out for a particular purpose, and that purpose is defined in a confidential agreement and set of RoE that we have to abide by.

[mint dirge]

congratulations @finite basalt

[devout palm]

Congratz mate, happy to hear that

[eternal timber]

That’s awesome! Good luck

[finite basalt]

Was literally talking about it with my current boss yesterday haha

[graceful mauve]

Enjoy, hopefully you didn't lie on your resume fr 😉

[finite basalt]

It's essentially to another team that work closely with my current team

[eternal timber]

Just gotta learn everything you lied about

🙏

[finite basalt]

I never lie on my CV haha

[eternal timber]

Same

[odd lintel]

How to make thr perfect cv

[finite basalt]

It certainly wouldn't make sense knowing that their team can ask my colleagues and bosses about me

[eternal timber]

I used Latex

[graceful mauve]

Just use ChatGPT search

Speedrun it

[odd lintel]

Do you believe that thing

[finite basalt]

I don't usually include references on my CV, I usually have it available on request but obviously they can see my current job and know who to get in touch with haha

[sick lance]

I don't use cherytree.

[finite basalt]

I've heard that cherry tree slows down massively once you reach a certain size because of the database

[graceful mauve]

Well it crawls Google and other well known resources from the web so yeah

[odd lintel]

crawls and manipulate results before giving us

[eternal timber]

Oh I assumed you were referring to importing your notes from cherrytree to obsidian

[sick lance]

I mean, if you have to lie n=on your cv to get a job, you won't be in that role for very long.

[eternal timber]

🤔

I’d rather not

[sick lance]

No, it was Obsidian to Trillium.

[graceful mauve]

To make it more cookie-cutter, not to deep dive

[mellow gull]

Google isn't an entirely unbiased engine to gain information from

I don't know if you've seen some of its AI interpretation but it spews outright misinformation just fine

[eternal timber]

You can choose to ignore the AI overview

Although even the search results are not entirely unbiased

[graceful mauve]

You use it for its strengths not its weaknesses.
It's strength is listing out resources

[mellow gull]

Of course they're not unbiased

Google isn't a truth engine

It's an indexing platform that pulls articles written by humans, who are inherently capable of being wrong

[graceful mauve]

It's not gonna make you rich, but it'll make it easier to get to where you want to be

[shut hawk]

Doesn't matter where you get your information from, so long as you check the sources and conduct your own research to validate it

[soft bramble]

Hello
Anyone won the prizes of advent of cyber 2k24?

[mellow gull]

I understand I might be part of the minority here but I really don't like this recent childlike fad of wanting to have information, truthful or otherwise, shoveled into your throat so long as it's done quickly

[graceful mauve]

^ this is factual, cross-referencing is very important

[sick lance]

All winners were contacted via E-mail.

[graceful mauve]

What do you mean by childlike?

[rapid merlin]

It’s meant to be a storm but I can feel
The sun

[eternal timber]

Not adult like

[mellow gull]

Wanting to have something given to you quickly, even if it's a lie, so you can move on to doing "whatever else" is an inherently childlike quality.

[graceful mauve]

Oh yeah no 100%

That's not how it works

[eternal timber]

ChatGPT sucks big time at providing relevant sources

[graceful mauve]

How do people not think for themselves

Like you got this

I believe in you

[graceful mauve]

I strongly disagree with this

[mellow gull]

I see a reddit symbol

I do like that it does cite sources

[sick lance]

Perplexity AI.

[shut hawk]

ds

[mellow gull]

I'm noticing some particular similarities behind the response language

I'm guessing it's a consequence of it pulling from the same source of information.

[shut hawk]

Yeah, I find it hard to put it into words, but you can usually accurately tell when some sort of LLM is involved

[sick lance]

Depends on the user.

I have a friend on LinkedIn, I get notifications when they comment on stuff, and you can blatently tell they've used AI to interact with other users.

[shut hawk]

As in, primarly from the text generated

[mellow gull]

Oh I mean identifying AI text isn't really that hard, at least in my experience. Ironic given that machine AI detection sucks.

[shut hawk]

Given a paragraph, the likelihood some sort of LLM usage was involved

[eternal timber]

It seems to have gotten much better since ChatGPT 3.0 but this isn’t entirely relevant either

[shut hawk]

Use the "Search the web" option

[graceful mauve]

I have plus and the o1 reasoning model is better for that kind of stuff ngl

[graceful mauve]

This too

[eternal timber]

How much was the subscription

[eternal timber]

I’ll try that. Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @shut hawk (current: #14 - 596)

[graceful mauve]

$20-30 usd

[shut hawk]

If you don't want the pro, and don't mind missing out on the DALL-E and integration features, the new DeepSeek models are on par with o1 (and currently free)

[eternal timber]

This is actually much better

[shut hawk]

Really impressive stuff

[eternal timber]

A bit steep

[sick lance]

I got a years subscription to Perplexity Pro for free with O2.

[shut hawk]

Oh! Student status too, you can get gpt-4o access for free via github copilot by being a student

[eternal timber]

Mmmm

[queen flare]

do you guys think it is better to take notes while doing a room, or finish the room first and then start taking notes

[sick lance]

Both.

I take notes during and after.

Alongside any screenshots, gifs, screenshots and terminal recordings.

[queen flare]

do you do both simultaenously or did you mean you just use one of the two methods at a time

[sick lance]

I take notes during, then I'll touch them up at the end.

[graceful mauve]

It's definitely worth it, plus OpenAI is always trying to update their models, OpenAI is also working on Stargate with some other big players so it's gotta be going hard

Plus it helps debugging code

[queen flare]

@graceful mauve hello
how are you doing lol

[queen flare]

sounds like a good idea

[graceful mauve]

Yoo bro, it's been a while, how are you doing?

[queen flare]

so far i've been completing the room first and then start noting
but that tends to get messy

[queen flare]

yeah its been a while
i'm doing pretty well
what about ya?

[graceful mauve]

That's good to hear
I'm doing solid man, I'd like to think I'm pretty good at web atm so I'm trying to get into hardware and low level stuff

[queen flare]

low level stuff scares me

but i do want to get into that

[graceful mauve]

It really does it tough

[queen flare]

maybe i should learn assembly sometimes

[graceful mauve]

Especially when you're making exploits in the kernels drivers

Next level stuff

[graceful mauve]

Yeah definitely, for reverse engineering especially

Like, you're not going to develop a huge program in assembly

Just learn how it works and then learn how to use debuggers and ghidra, x64dbg, cheatengine, ida

[queen flare]

making exploit is currently out of my knowledge
i'm just learning about tools like hashcat, metasploit, nmap, burpsuite etc.

[graceful mauve]

That's cool, burpsuite is so good

I haven't got premium but I heard the extensions make it so much better

Hashcat is pretty good as fast cracking, you should check out Medusa as well

[queen flare]

i don't have premium either
doubt i'd need it for learning till i get into actual pentesting

[graceful mauve]

Learn how to import modules from exploit databases into metasploits module library so you can use them

[queen flare]

i've heard about medusa from a friend as well
will check that one out as well

[graceful mauve]

It's pretty fast

[graceful mauve]

Yeah same here

[queen flare]

you should dm me sometimes
haven't heard from ya in a while

[graceful mauve]

I'm kind of on and off of discord but I'll definitely hit you up

[eternal timber]

I’ll think about it. Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @graceful mauve (current: #1714 - 2)

[queen flare]

same dude
i'm using discord on browser these days

[graceful mauve]

No way man

Are you at least using a VPN or a type or browser protection

[queen flare]

i only pretty much use discord to annoy people here with my cybersecurity related questions

[queen flare]

what for?

[graceful mauve]

I like to annoy anyone trying to hack into my account with 911 at the start and end of my emails

[queen flare]

wdym

[graceful mauve]

Like [e-mail]

[queen flare]

how does that help

[devout palm]

Fyi, that doesn't do anything

[graceful mauve]

Because when you try to reset your password it will sometimes say "password reset sent to **********[e-mail]"

[silver sky]

[queen flare]

modern problems require modern solutions

[devout palm]

What? You scared?

Glowie detected

https://tenor.com/view/glowie-gif-24523736

[queen flare]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[silver sky]

I am just permanently confused by people.

[graceful mauve]

XDD

[rose tusk]

brute force and ignorance works. it passes the test of time

[devout palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-berg-cat-orange-cat-swimming-gif-25177582

[rose tusk]

or rubber hose crypto analysis. 100% success rate

[silver sky]

[devout palm]

Put a space character at the end of your password

Or make your password *************

[mellow gull]

Just make a good password

[rose tusk]

wanna grab foodies maybe first week of Feb?

[queen flare]

i don't understand why people keep saying that they can't brute force stuff like sha256
they need to understand hacking sometimes take patience and few thousand years of waiting

[silver sky]

I'll still be in Iraq 👀

I'm back 14th of February

[graceful mauve]

And a few thousand super computers

[rose tusk]

ah okay, maybe the week after then

[queen flare]

well those are minor setbacks but they gotta prove their determination

[rose tusk]

exactly haha

[graceful mauve]

How though? 😭

[rose tusk]

everything works if you give it enough time. so why do people give up so early in life and tasks?

[queen flare]

first hack supercomputer x 1000
then brute force and wait 1000 year

simple

if they can't do it, they don't have the patience to work in cybersecurity

[graceful mauve]

I'll believe in my Nokia to do it! It's called electrical engineering 😉

[rose tusk]

if that doesn't work use rubber hose crypto analysis

[drowsy holly]

I completed the "SQL Fundamentals" course. I can say that they seemed difficult to me, but with repetition they will become more understandable. I wonder what will happen in the most difficult ones! https://tryhackme.com/r/room/sqlfundamentals

[devout palm]

Me unpatiently waiting for nmap results and constantly using TAB to see the progress

[graceful mauve]

It's about doing it 1000 times over 1000 domains

Then each password has an ACTUAL expiration date

[queen flare]

that seems to be an advanced technique

reserved for cia and nsa mostly

[rose tusk]

yeah, must be used with care and caution

[graceful mauve]

I haven't heard of this before

[opaque flax]

lol there’s so many cryptographers out in the non government world

[devout palm]

Corn on the cob 😋

[rapid merlin]

hi can someone help me with advice regarding a second discord acount. I haven't been using it for some time now and when I tried to log in today and entered my phone number I didn't receive any sms

[opaque flax]

Discord support

[drowsy holly]

Up the Irons!!

[rapid merlin]

thanks, will try, heard it takes a lot of time till someone responds but yeah, makes sense

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @opaque flax (current: #130 - 60)

[wooden totem]

Maybe you wrote it in the wrong format or wrong number, that's a possibility

[rose tusk]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption#:~:text=In cryptography%2C rubber-hose cryptanalysis,mathematical or technical cryptanalytic attack

[queen flare]

i think i'll give it a shot to solve cryptography problems in my college exams

[rapid merlin]

no, tried it multiple times

[graceful mauve]

Isn't this with FDE?

[rose tusk]

?

[queen flare]

rubber hose crypto analysis is just a cool sounding way of saying that you torture someone and coerce them into telling you the information

[graceful mauve]

Don't they just fully encrypt their drives and files with MFA which makes it almost impossible to recover or file a lawsuit against?

[rose tusk]

pretty much this

[graceful mauve]

Ahh, well what if you forget the password?

[rose tusk]

you continue until the person remembers? I guess?

[queen flare]

rubberhose.append(red_hot_iron)

[devout palm]

Deniable encryption

[graceful mauve]

trauma rememberance

[rose tusk]

I don't endorse this, let me make it clear lol

it's a meme

[queen flare]

the basic theory is that trauma upon trauma will cancel each other out and the person will overcome his trauma and remember everything

[graceful mauve]

It gets pre dark I'd think

[graceful mauve]

That just sounds like a lie

[queen flare]

it is
i made that up 😂

[graceful mauve]

😂

[shut hawk]

there is some very cool research into going against the "beat em up till you tell them" attack

the authentication method is some sort of game like guitar hero, where the performance is used as the key

so the user cannot actully recall the password

[sick lance]

Your number can only be attached to one account.

[rose tusk]

thats wicked, imagine riffing yourself into your computer

[shut hawk]

https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity12/sec12-final25.pdf

[graceful mauve]

That's genius

[queen flare]

i think its more focused on attacking the confidentianlity of the cia triad, without focusing on authentication and keeping the integrity same

[shut hawk]

Cryptographic systems often rely on the secrecy of cryptographic keys given to users. Many schemes, however,
cannot resist coercion attacks where the user is forcibly
asked by an attacker to reveal the key. These attacks,
known as rubber hose cryptanalysis, are often the easiest
way to defeat cryptography. We present a defense against
coercion attacks using the concept of implicit learning
from cognitive psychology. Implicit learning refers to
learning of patterns without any conscious knowledge of
the learned pattern. We use a carefully crafted computer
game to plant a secret password in the participant’s brain
without the participant having any conscious knowledge
of the trained password. 

[graceful mauve]

Until they find a zero day exploit in your custom system with a type of guitar hero macro or cheat

[rapid merlin]

I know, I detached from this account while trying to login to the other account :)

[queen flare]

is this real or a joke?

[shut hawk]

^

[queen flare]

dang

[mellow gull]

So as opposed to entering in a password it relies on, like
muscle memory?

[queen flare]

looks interesting
i'll read it in my own time
thanks for sharing it

[graceful mauve]

That's crazy

[mellow gull]

You know ordinarily I don't come on discord to see posts about random politique

[devout palm]

The hell is this

[shut hawk]

Pretty much

[eternal timber]

This is in no way political

[opaque flax]

It’s general chat anything is possible

[devout palm]

Lemme show you this

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-cat-float-kitty-float-cat-water-float-gif-17908418945946410709

[eternal timber]

Just the dude being straight up a fascist

[mellow gull]

Don't ordinarily come on Discord to see that, either

[mellow gull]

true!

[eternal timber]

What do you come to see

[devout palm]

This

[graceful mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-nitro-cat-gif-21325859

[sick lance]

Please not politics in this server

@eternal timber

[eternal timber]

Honestly don’t know why that would count as politics. It didn’t reference any party nor policies. It’s just Elon being a dork 🤔

[jovial burrow]

hey is it just me or thm attached machines are very slow?

is there any way i can make it work fast?

[cloud quiver]

If you mean AttackBox , it's slow for me now also

Machines work fine

[rugged kayak]

hello

[upper knoll]

It might just be aws being slow icl

[sick lance]

With minor references to a certain political party.

[eternal timber]

Yes but what’s controversial about hating that party

Not arguing about not following your instructions

Just curious

[topaz topaz]

Hi everyone, last day of work before 1 week off and travels 😎 how's everyone doing?

[dense terrace]

Does anyone besides me use a kali live boot? it seems everyone else loves vms.

[opaque flax]

I have both

[mellow gull]

As long as you're not daily driving with it

[woeful cedar]

it makes more sense to use the VM

[sick lance]

We don't promote politics or that certain party

[loud marlin]

live boot is not bad if you use perssistenc thing

[dense terrace]

it seem that it runs way better for me with a live boot. But my machine is kinda slow

[sick lance]

It's actually illegal to promote that party in some countries.

[woeful cedar]

and yea, dont daily drive Kali, its not meant for it.

[opaque flax]

Have you adjusted how much resources you give the vm?

[woeful cedar]

bruh

said ligma and deleted it

[cloud quiver]

Good , enjoy your holiday 😄 😎

[dense terrace]

Yeah. Sill slow

[opaque flax]

What hypervisor are you using?

[woeful cedar]

I can still see deleted messages 😈

[topaz topaz]

Thank you! How's your weekend looking

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #2 - 2439)

[sick lance]

Are you using a third party client?

[dense terrace]

not sure. I that the name of the vm? if so its the free orcle one

[woeful cedar]

depends on what you will do if i say yes or no

[cloud quiver]

Thanks for asking , probably will do some THM 😄 . Waiting for new room this evening 🔥

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @topaz topaz (current: #297 - 21)

[opaque flax]

Try vmware workstation pro

[sick lance]

You just answered my question.

[woeful cedar]

No.

[sick lance]

Yes.

[woeful cedar]

No.

[short quail]

He didn't answer ur question

[topaz topaz]

I hope it won't be too hard, I wanna play it too 😄

[woeful cedar]

I deny everything

[sick lance]

He avoided it with a question, says it all really.

[cloud quiver]

We'll see 😄

[topaz topaz]

I'll be taking my laptop in my travels to do some thm away from home

[woeful cedar]

I use my 5th amendment right.

[sick lance]

Third party clients are against Discords ToS

[sick lance]

Doesn't apply to here.

[woeful cedar]

are they?

[sick lance]

Yes.

[woeful cedar]

I know, Im also not american.

[woeful cedar]

hmm

wait seriously?

jokes apart, they are?

[mellow gull]

Yes.

[topaz topaz]

Obviously

[woeful cedar]

ok all jokes apart, i genuinely didnt know

[short quail]

What if u use something like vencord or the other clients that make discord more usable on wayland

[sick lance]

Still breaking tos

[short quail]

Hmm

[topaz topaz]

I used to use bluecord, probably also against ToS but I don't think they act against it

[woeful cedar]

dont do anything to me 🥺
i'll switch back to normal discord

[woeful cedar]

creator of bluecord is shady AF

[topaz topaz]

Yeah I just installed the original app but it's unfortunate, I do really dislike Discord's app and the way they're handling everything as a whole

[woeful cedar]

aight wait im switching back to browser discord

[topaz topaz]

But I just put up with it, wouldn't cry if they banned me tho lol

[woeful cedar]

agreed

[topaz topaz]

• I miss my amoled theme

[short quail]

U can install the flatpak, I think they fixed the screen recorder issues now

[topaz topaz]

Using flatpak myself. Yall on linux?

[short quail]

Yes

[woeful cedar]

why are third party client against ToS though?
they are SOO conveinent.

[short quail]

they want to control the experience users have

[woeful cedar]

that sucks

they have put the better user experience behind a paywall

[topaz topaz]

Also it's probably a way for them to not be liable in case of a cybersecurity issue with a third party client

[woeful cedar]

like you gotta buy nitro for a better user experience

[mellow gull]

You're on a hacking server and asking why giving a third party client access to your API and message history might be against ToS?

[topaz topaz]

Like how Nintendo is like "switch users shouldn't use the wii u servers to bypass our online paywall" then do nothing about it cause it's just for legal reasons

[woeful cedar]

no no i got that

[short quail]

I think ur more prone to MITM attacks and stuff, when u use discord, ur trusting discord devs, when ur use a third party client, ur trusting discord devs and also the creator of the third party client

[woeful cedar]

yea thats there

[sick lance]

Yeah

So we don't promote the use of third party clients, or anything that breaks any ToS of any product.

[topaz topaz]

At this point it's all unnecessary anyway

[woeful cedar]

like FUG just mentioned bluecord which is for mobile
the creator of bluecord does this kind of thing
he hacks the accounts of the people who use bluecord

[mellow gull]

Discord, like any company, cannot legitimize or sanction the use of uncontrolled services that potentially gain access to personal and security-concerning data, because Discord, like any company, cannot guarantee or even remotely promise data security as a result of that.

[topaz topaz]

The benefit hasn't outweighed the cons for a long time

[short quail]

If u use linux, just use the flatpak, it's pretty good now, the native packages are still shit

[woeful cedar]

discord should give a better user experience though 😔
rather than putting it all behind a paywall

[short quail]

+1

[sick lance]

Companies are entitled to make money.

[topaz topaz]

By the way there are screenshots on the internet where bluecord dev admits to having done really shady stuff,

If you type drive.google.com it shows in full view (not sure if the way I linked is allowed just wanted it to be legit)

/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1Y2m2lMSpN3GlOcXyceaO88Ljnr8xuNcp?pli=1

[woeful cedar]

yea ive seen this google drive

theres voice recordings and chat messages

[atomic atlas]

Death threats by msg then say nobody will tie your death to me 😭😭

[short quail]

What?

[topaz topaz]

The perfect crime has just been committed!!

[plush fjord]

• its bloated asf and really unoptimized

[crude stump]

Is the uk experiencing winds from Ireland

[woeful cedar]

true

[short quail]

Come out ye black and tans

[rapid merlin]

very blow at the minute

[crude stump]

Ima be honest I have no idea what that means

[short quail]

Are u irish mate

[crude stump]

Nope

American

[short quail]

O

[crude stump]

Just seen the winds on a news channel and Ireland is close to the uk so I thought I’d ask

[sick lance]

from Ireland? 😭

[crude stump]

Alright yk what I mean 😂

[finite basalt]

man these scam emails are turning into long-term romance fraud scams, this is new for me lmao

[rapid merlin]

Scotland got some really bad mental winds last night, the news was reporting 140mph

[crude stump]

Ok should I say, is the wind effecting the uk

There

[crude stump]

Damn

[sick lance]

Where?

[crude stump]

140 is crazy

[finite basalt]

there are lvl2 wind warnings with possibility of tornados iirc

[rapid merlin]

up in the highlands

[wooden totem]

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/maps-and-charts/wind-map

[finite basalt]

particularly in the south

[rapid merlin]

make sure you secure your wheely bins

[crude stump]

Take your trash out for you lol

[finite basalt]

man they're all flying around, it's like fucking narnia

[sick lance]

Wheelie bins are the least your concerns tbf.

[rapid merlin]

I'm hunkered down for the wkend

[crude stump]

Wheely bins is a funny name

I like it

[finite basalt]

All I hear is thuds and scrapes of bins falling or being pulled along the floor while the wind howls and whistles

[wooden totem]

throw a rope or two over your roof

[sick lance]

I don't think rope will help.

[finite basalt]

My bins aren't secured but they're right up against the corner of the house so the wind's less likely to grab em

[wooden totem]

they didn't have the rope

[crude stump]

Bring em inside

Might smell up the house tho

[finite basalt]

sometimes the wind's so strong that I can feel the house shake a little.. we live in a terraced house, it's literally connected either side, how does that happen 😭

[finite basalt]

they won't fit through door, I'd throw em in the spare room otherwise, I keep an incenerator in there and a bbq etc. so it's fine but either way it's not that deep

[crude stump]

Oh wait garages

[sick lance]

Assuming your house has a garage.

[crude stump]

Exactly

If not then pray for your bin

[finite basalt]

yeah, take this random picture of a terraced house and picture my house being that middle bit, how the fuck can I feel the house shaking, it should be the most grounded and stable structure in existence

it's not excessively tall and is the land-locked variant of houses, I should not feel any shaking 😭

[crude stump]

Wait what’s the average house price there

[finite basalt]

too much

[karmic hemlock]

Bouta get new ram for my pc today 🔥

[topaz topaz]

I used to live in a neighborhood just like this one

[crude stump]

That’s the same with the U.S it’s bonkers

[topaz topaz]

We had a chippy behind us

[boreal scarab]

Oh, I don't know... maybe you can feel it IN THE GROUND?

[topaz topaz]

What kind?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/a-doi-vanellope-wreck-wreck-it-ralph-ralph-gif-16889468

[sick lance]

This is a town alongside the coast.

[finite basalt]

I'm sharing a house with 3 others and we each pay £424/month on rent + £100/month on utilities which isn't a lot individually but per month that's equal to £2k per month

[karmic hemlock]

Looking for 16 gig DDR4, 2400 MHz

[rapid merlin]

wow

[topaz topaz]

Actually crazy

[finite basalt]

Like getting a place on your own is cheaper if you're not splitting the bills with people

in terms of mortgages and actual house value, they're not terrible but they aren't great

most houses with 2/3 bedrooms (in the north) are about £140-200k

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[sick lance]

You could buy a small house in England, or a bigger house in Scotland.

[finite basalt]

yeah for sure

[boreal scarab]

Jk

[finite basalt]

I mean the job I'm currently gunning for, I'm going for because it's a junior position I actually have a shot at potentially and straight out of university so if I get it I can hopefully save up for a mortgage much quicker

[rapid merlin]

House prices are just ridicules in the UK

[finite basalt]

it's because there's too many people and the infrastructure hasn't scaled accordingly

Not enough roads, houses etc.

[karmic hemlock]

I know lol, I'm gonna see if it does the trick for my server though, since one stick is cheap. If it doesn't, I'm gonna get a new cpu with 3200 MHz ram

[rapid merlin]

I also think it's to do with housing seen as an investment and not a resource

[finite basalt]

but at the same time if we tried to build a load of houses, it takes up space and suddenly you end up with no parks and greenery

[rapid merlin]

no incentive to build affordable housing

[finite basalt]

that doesn't help

[karmic hemlock]

But my current processor only supports up to 2933 mhz overclock

[boreal scarab]

Server?!

[karmic hemlock]

Minecraft server

[finite basalt]

I mean my plan is to try and get a mortgage for a house with 2/3 bedrooms and see if I can (with permission from the mortgage provider) sublet a room so I can use the extra money to pay more of the mortgage off earlier

[karmic hemlock]

Trying to run a multi-player server with 100 mods and my AMD Ryzen 5 2600 and my 8 gigs of ram are screaming at me for mercy

[boreal scarab]

I got 64GB allocated for mine

[finite basalt]

Like I'd only go for a mortgage I could pay on my own but then would sublet an extra room so I could knock down the overall debt and therefore reduce the interest etc.

[finite basalt]

I have mine running in an arch linux container on proxmox with 3 cores and 16gb RAM

[boreal scarab]

Dual Xeon E5 2680 V4, 28 Cores, 56 Threads. 256 GB DDR4 ECC RDIMM 2400 Mhz

[finite basalt]

I might upgrade the ram on the computer a bit more when I've the money spare but I'm spending too much at the moment

[karmic hemlock]

Ram usage was up at 97% the whole time the server was running, and the cpu was running pretty hard too, I'm guessing because it was doing a lot of paging with the insufficient memory

[boreal scarab]

Think I gave mine 16 cores?

I don't fuck around lol

[finite basalt]

I've got a Ryzen 5 3600, 48GB DDR4 3000MHz, GTX1050ti, GT710, x4 3tb WD Reds in RaidZ plus other misc storage

no point with minecraft servers, they use one core for gc, one core for physics processing and one more for something else iirc

[karmic hemlock]

So I'm gonna see if some more ram fixes the problem. Worst case scenario, it shifts the bottleneck over to my cpu and then I just get a new 5600x and some 3200 MHz ram and I'll be chillin

[finite basalt]

at most it'll use 3 cores

[boreal scarab]

Oh we talking storage now

[finite basalt]

I don't have insane amounts but that's a future plan hehe

[karmic hemlock]

No point in adding more cores, sure. But some cpus are much greater at single threading than others

[finite basalt]

at the moment this my humble student server which is my old desktop repurposed

[boreal scarab]

12x Mix of 4 TB capacity drives, SAS.

3 SSD's for VDevs

[finite basalt]

yeah completely right

[karmic hemlock]

Ive found the ryzen 5 5600x is a really solid choice after doing some research and the great part about it is that it's only $120ish dollars

[finite basalt]

very nice, I definitely want to do that at some point, I want a proper custom server build in a 2/3U case but for now I'm running a tower with a limited number of drive slots and also am supposed to be saving money haha

[karmic hemlock]

It does single threading about 20% better than my current processor and is better at multitasking too

[boreal scarab]

I got like 5 servers running on the one VM, some heavily modded, so need the power

[boreal scarab]

I'm running a 1U

Quanta D51PH-1ULH

[finite basalt]

I mean depends what you're doing, my cpu really isn't meant for server applications, it works brilliantly still because it's still pretty snappy and for some applications I do just want raw performance over core count but if I tried running huge amounts of cpu heavy vms it'd be problematic I reckon

[finite basalt]

A very nice, mine is home built

[karmic hemlock]

The reason I need an upgrade is because I'm running the server on the same machine that I'm playing on

I don't have another machine with a reliable power supply to run the server off of

[boreal scarab]

Mine..... is not lol

Does have dual 10gb ports on it that came with mine

[finite basalt]

Yeah I want to make my own completely from scratch so I can spec it out as I want to

and upgrade it more

[boreal scarab]

Hehehehe file transfers go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[karmic hemlock]

Also I bought my machine in 2020 so even though it was good for its time it's long overdue for some upgrades

Id rather give a pc new internals over buying a new tower

[finite basalt]

I was actually looking at getting a network card and a thunderbolt to 10gb adapter for using FCOE but with spinning rust I'd never reach those speeds, just maybe more like 300mb without the overhead of things like ethernet protocols and samba

[boreal scarab]

still rocks an i7 7700k and gtx 1080 TI desktop

[finite basalt]

My laptop's my daily driver but for the amount I paid it's a beast

I technically paid £850 + 200 for some upgrades and got an i7-12700h, RTX 3060, 64gb DDR5 and 2TB NVME SSD

I upgraded the RAM and SSD and installed liquid metal TIM

[karmic hemlock]

Damn that's a monster

[crude stump]

Tim tams

[karmic hemlock]

Under 1100 pounds too? Wtf 😭

[finite basalt]

It was actually upgraded from an i7-10750h, RTX 2060 and 32gb DDR4 to that

[karmic hemlock]

Thats about the amount I paid for my laptop I'm jealous

[finite basalt]

I paid £850 (+100 for upgrading the ram to 32gb) for the laptop and then got a free upgrade a year after the warranty expired

but that was after getting close to taking dell to small claims court haha

I was happy to get the upgrade but itching for the fight at that point haha

[crude stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177852959820890224/1184984343978975262/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif?ex=6794132b&is=6792c1ab&hm=6df455e74cae48b4b4d25792ff02b2a9c1cb9b2ef0e6a594ff47d2af32241323&

[glacial cove]

Damn, nice

My laptop ended up being a nice deal, snagged it from some sales from MSI. It's chunky but cools well and works wonders

[finite basalt]

That's fair, Dell are awful, cannot recommend them

thermals are a suggestion and their support are bordering on useless

[glacial cove]

£850 with no upgrades

16GB DDR5
RTX 4060
Ryzen 7 8875H (8 cores @4.7ghz)
1TB SSD
144hz 1080p monitor

[finite basalt]

Remember them arguing with me saying "the charger socket is integrated with the motherboard" and I said it wasn't and they said they could see it was.
I said "you can see a piece of paper, I can see the motherboard, I disconnected it earlier to test it with a multimeter as part of my diagnosis"

[finite basalt]

That's really good value, that's on par with mine in terms of value for its time

[opaque flax]

lol I have had so much bad experience trying to get in contact with dell support as our vendor for like hardware support

[glacial cove]

Oh my God

[finite basalt]

Like my original laptop actually started with 16gb and a 512gb SSD

I'd also already told them it was fubar and needed replacing and they were insistent that they could diagnose it, they failed to fix it after doing less than I'd tried and gave up

[glacial cove]

Ridiculous. Yeah, no small claims court would've been called for

[finite basalt]

I solved problems on that original laptop that dell had failed to fix for 3 generations of the laptop

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tom-holland-yoink-gif-11346283

[finite basalt]

They whacked a 1mm thick piece of copper on the SSD with no thermal pad and no airflow and were surprised that the SSD reached 95Celsius

I ended up putting bluetack on the ssd followed by the back cover to measure how much clearance I had and then filed down two ssd heatsinks to the same height as the bluetack and got the temperature down by 30-40 degrees

[wooden totem]

70% of you is this, times 25 trillion

[dark mason]

How dare you steal my already stolen meme?

[crude stump]

Matt loves stealing memes

[mellow gull]

They do be pretty cute though.

[wooden totem]

it's you

[crude stump]

Thanks

[mellow gull]

I do be pretty cute, thanks. You too.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wooden totem (current: #155 - 50)

[queen flare]

the part i placed in red box, isn't that part of the body and not a header?
is the picture wrong here?

[polar shale]

Good morning here is some yerba i am drinking

[cinder cloak]

rwxblake

[polar shale]

Yoo waddup paris

[mellow narwhal]

Yes it should be the body I think

Maybe you can report it in #room-bugs

[cinder cloak]

hungry 😦 how are you

[mellow gull]

Eat food then

[cinder cloak]

dont tell me what to do

[mellow narwhal]

https://tenor.com/ufp1KFQyVga.gif

[cinder cloak]

my hair is still wet and it is cold outside i am waiting to go get breakfast ❤️

[mellow gull]

Don't tell me what not to tell you what to do

[cinder cloak]

[queen flare]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mellow narwhal (current: #285 - 22)

[mellow gull]

That said it being cold is a totally acceptable excuse

Chilly temperature is a vicious beast

[wooden totem]

https://tenor.com/view/terrifier-terrifier2-clown-horror-sunflower-glasses-gif-27028913?___BETTA_is_a_certified_sigma

[cinder cloak]

and the wind

wind is evil and the work of the devil