general

[atomic atlas]

hacking at school isn’t really taught in France until the last two years and it’s still basics…

[viral crest]

@drifting halo it's against the rules to ask that here

[mossy river]

Thjs is illegal and against our community rules.

[drifting halo]

Sorry

Im Locked out and lost my phone 😩😩

[atomic atlas]

hacking emails would get you millions of dollars easily 😭 you get every password for every account of every person

[drifting halo]

New phone but no access to my things

Microsoft are so bad at verify people I’m lost 😢

[atomic atlas]

call them if you have the other information about the account it’s not lost

[drifting halo]

I have it all….
All i get is do recovery…my information is wrong apparently

[atomic atlas]

call them with the infos they’ll reset your password

[drifting halo]

They won’t do it that way 🥲 fill in the form…then refused

It don’t have my mobile or email 🥲

[atomic atlas]

can’t help sorry

just call them if it’s free they’ll know better sorry

[karmic hemlock]

AND learning cyber? props dude

[drifting halo]

They’ve been rubbish but thanks anyway, really appreciated

[atomic atlas]

you’re doing 6 rooms at a time and you’re main source of knowledge is a big blob you’re not too different 😭

there is alot of people that are really smart in the hacking community that’s great competition

[muted light]

😶‍🌫️

[eternal timber]

I do that for fun

[atomic atlas]

what are your PRs ?

[karmic hemlock]

I don't have expertise in super theoretical mathematics and mind-numbing physics concepts though

[atomic atlas]

everyone is good at their own things !

[karmic hemlock]

True true

[drifting stirrup]

how to get ur own command line application gobuster thinkg

[karmic hemlock]

I cant wait to get back in the gym, they closed it down for the holiday break and I've been going crazy

[atomic atlas]

everyone is lifting here 😭

[drifting stirrup]

my laptop?

or like vm

[atomic atlas]

your OS is like windows or parrot

[drifting stirrup]

i am using window

[atomic atlas]

you’re on windows running a parrot vm if I’m nkt mistaken

[karmic hemlock]

Yeah but I'm pretty new to it, I'm also pretty small so I don't lift a lot

I just enjoy staying in shape

[drifting stirrup]

yes i have a vm and it is linux and it has parrot

okay give me a minute then

[eternal timber]

435 lbs bench is what I’m most proud of

[atomic atlas]

a healthy mind in a healthy body is so true just stay consistent there’s no such thing as new really in lifting it’s so personal

[atomic atlas]

wtf 😭😭

[karmic hemlock]

You're built different

[eternal timber]

I’m also 240 lbs lol

[atomic atlas]

studying galaxies to lift them right after

[karmic hemlock]

Fair enough

[eternal timber]

Lmao

[karmic hemlock]

I weigh 145 and I can bench my body weight but that's it

Maybe 155 on a good day

[drifting stirrup]

done

i oppened the parrot terminal on vm

[atomic atlas]

you gain strength over time as tendons and ligaments take more time to get stronger but you’ll build muscle soooo fast in the beginning

[scarlet lintel]

yo

[drifting stirrup]

gobuster --help
Usage:
gobuster [command]

Available Commands:
completion Generate the autocompletion script for the specified shell
dir Uses directory/file enumeration mode
dns Uses DNS subdomain enumeration mode
fuzz Uses fuzzing mode. Replaces the keyword FUZZ in the URL, Headers and the request body
gcs Uses gcs bucket enumeration mode
help Help about any command
s3 Uses aws bucket enumeration m

I think i have gobuster then

[karmic hemlock]

My goal is to eventually get to 155 lbs lean, feel like that's a good goal for my frame/height

[atomic atlas]

you can bench with your legs and still make gains the beginning is the best part imo

[eternal timber]

I’m trying to get down to 210

[drifting stirrup]

oh ok that was easy

[karmic hemlock]

Bulking is tough af though

[atomic atlas]

I’m in kg so that’s what 70?

[eternal timber]

It’s easy for me

I eat like a pig

[atomic atlas]

if you’re on a budget it is

[karmic hemlock]

Around there I think

[atomic atlas]

haha same for me

[eternal timber]

Cutting is very hard for me

[scarlet lintel]

whats ur hieght

[eternal timber]

6’3

Well 6’2.89

[scarlet lintel]

make sense

[atomic atlas]

you’ll get used to it and you wont be able to stop eating

[karmic hemlock]

Right now I'm 65 kg and 170 cm

[atomic atlas]

the more muscle you build the more calories you consume and the hungrier you get

[boreal scarab]

https://open.spotify.com/track/24Cwnor5iVkzlFQOQEajHR

Uh.... WTF SPOTIFY?!

[rapid merlin]

264 lbs here

[boreal scarab]

Why was this in my feed?!

[scarlet lintel]

im 81 kg

5'11

[rapid merlin]

or 120kg, but I'm 6'7"

[atomic atlas]

it depends on your build but that’s a pretty good ratio already just stay consistent

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[scarlet lintel]

wtf lol

[karmic hemlock]

Bro is an official unit

I wish

[atomic atlas]

haha you’re a mountain basically

[scarlet lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[eternal timber]

Monster

[rapid merlin]

HAHA

[karmic hemlock]

Man's a whole foot taller than me 😭

[scarlet lintel]

lol

[karmic hemlock]

For sure, I'm hoping I can get my abs back cuz the bulk took them away

I got a lil fat

[atomic atlas]

why do you want to learn how to hack when you can just break any door you encounter ?

[eternal timber]

Hack the door

[karmic hemlock]

Cant break digital doors 💡 🧠

[atomic atlas]

having abs is for skinny people to be honest 😭 when you get in the gym having abs is the hardest part for most of us becauseof the bulk but just gain muscle you’ll get leaner

[grizzled wing]

taste the rgb

[atomic atlas]

haha you’re right but if a 6”7 120kg asked me my password I would give it immediately

[scarlet lintel]

FR 🍭

[karmic hemlock]

Yeah i know it is, I won't be upset or anything if it doesn't happen

When I was at my lowest I was 55 kg so it probably wasn't abs but more so just ribs 💀

[atomic atlas]

😭🤣 exactly

[eternal timber]

Last time I was 55 kg I was 14

[atomic atlas]

but trust the process you’ll get there

[karmic hemlock]

I can tell I'm getting better day by day and that motivates me

[atomic atlas]

I was 55kg at 6’2 when I started you’re disrespecting us 😭🤣

[scarlet lintel]

any anime lover?

[karmic hemlock]

I've actually been doing a lot better with squats than bench, despite the small frame I can squat 205 lbs (93 kg)

[eternal timber]

That’s crazy

[atomic atlas]

it depends on the length of your limbs tbh not really your size and it’s quite the opposite

like an ant that can lift 385929188 times its own weight

[eternal timber]

I have a friend who can squat 6 plates for reps at 75 kg

[karmic hemlock]

Are you suggesting i should be able to lift more because I'm a compact human being

😭😭😭

[eternal timber]

But he’s also a national powerlifting champion

[atomic atlas]

haha yes that’s ehat I’m saying

[karmic hemlock]

Thats crazy lmfao

[atomic atlas]

that makes sense 😭

[eternal timber]

He’s also just 18

Could squat 6 plates at 15-16

Dude is a monster

[atomic atlas]

strength never stop growing unlike muscles he will only grow from now ☠️

[boreal scarab]

I has new gun

heat gun

🔥

[karmic hemlock]

Can you take the tint off my windows for me then

My car doesn't pass NY inspection because of it 😭

[boreal scarab]

Swing on by the JOYSAY an gib monay

[scarlet lintel]

what should be the appropriate disk size in vm for kali??

[boreal scarab]

100 TB

[atomic atlas]

I’m going to sleep for real this time have fun guys it was fun !!

[scarlet lintel]

[karmic hemlock]

It doesn't need to be huge, especially if you don't plan on using it all the time

Id have to check but I think I only gave a few gigs to mine

[rapid merlin]

when are the results of AOC gonna release, any idea

[karmic hemlock]

Emails were sent privately to winners

[scarlet lintel]

Please Lemme know

[drifting stirrup]

I use gobuster -u http://fakebank.thm -w wordlist.txt dir and get Error: error on parsing arguments: wordlist file "wordlist.txt" does not exist: stat wordlist.txt: no such file or directory do u know why?

[rapid merlin]

oh sucks i didnt win this time either lmao

[boreal scarab]

#room-help

[drifting stirrup]

oh sorry

[karmic hemlock]

Sure just gimme a few mins i gotta turn my laptop back on lol

[scarlet lintel]

ooh thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @karmic hemlock (current: #875 - 5)

[rapid merlin]

also was the black friday sales cheaper or this 25% off one

[scarlet lintel]

[karmic hemlock]

You were talking about disk size right? Like storage?

[scarlet lintel]

ya

[karmic hemlock]

I gave mine 80 gigs, and my laptop is half a TB

But honestly I would say you don't even need that much if you don't think you're gonna be putting a bunch of programs on there

[boreal scarab]

I have TB's of space, and I usually give my VM bout 100. or 120 GB

[karmic hemlock]

There is no straight answer for how much storage is ideal, it's more of a preference thing as long as you can fit what you need

If you have a few TBs you can definitely afford to give a little more

[scarlet lintel]

ooh okkk

[scarlet lintel]

ty

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @boreal scarab (current: #30 - 325)

[boreal scarab]

Welcome!

[scarlet lintel]

okkay

[boreal scarab]

I also install EVERYTHING, Is it all needed? Probably not.

[karmic hemlock]

I get by with very minimal stuff so honestly I could probably use less than 80 gigs

I leave it allocated there just in case though yk

I'm not using it for Windows anyway

[eternal timber]

I’ve had two beers and 3 glasses of whiskey

[jade wing]

Finally, after 3 days of grind, I have caight up on my notes.

Time to finally move on in my studies and then blow off note taking until the end again and hate myself for it later.

[crude stump]

Did somebody try to drive on it

Or throwing rocks

[eternal timber]

I was tempted to jump on it but it was so too cold outside

[crude stump]

Personally I wouldn’t

[rose lotus]

Why no desktop app for THM

[crude stump]

Website

[rose lotus]

Ik but why not add an app

Most things have a website but an app I think could be better

[crude stump]

Eh is there really a difference tho

[grizzled wing]

./Linux.exe

[opaque flax]

what about the app would be better?

[eternal timber]

It was way too cold for the ice to risk braking

[crude stump]

I mean it’s more of how thin it was

[jade wing]

Why?

[eternal timber]

Well yes but a lower temperature for a longer amount of time would imply that the ice is thicker

[jade wing]

It would just wind up being a wrapper for the site. If you want one so bad, make one. They are easy to make.

Would be kind of pointless though.

[opaque flax]

isnt the discrod app just...basically the webapp

but with a wrapper

[jade wing]

The discord app is written in electron

[opaque flax]

never heard of that

[jade wing]

So a bit different but kind of

It is different though

[opaque flax]

ah its a framework for building desktop aps

[jade wing]

Yea I bet you will find plenty of people here who are not fans of electron and rightfully so

it can be a security nightmare

[opaque flax]

using front end web languages

[jade wing]

Indeed, thats why I was like "kind of" but its not a pure wrapper.

[opaque flax]

makes sense

[jade wing]

But yea I think electron is pretty cool personally

I think ther person above is hoping for an all in one executable application that gets installed on their machine and they can do everything they can do on the site

thats just not feasible for many reasons and perhaps they don't understand whats going on, in the backend of sites like this

To get the same functionality of say the attack VM, and the target machines, you would still need to be routed to THM infra

as just one simpler example why that wouldn't work out and be pointless.

[opaque flax]

yeah either way I don't see the reason for a desktop app anyways

it works just fine on the web

[jade wing]

Chaos Control huh?

That like your team or something?

Yea they are pretty neat

Nice, whats the general skill level of your peeps over there?

Do you all compete at all?

Very cool, I will have to stop by.

Oh nice you have a CVE awaiting review, thats cool.

Still neat.

kerberoasting and golden ticket are still the bane of my existence and I would say a majority of places are still very susceptible to them

Most places refuse to mitigate it because an app somewhere for whatever reasons needs the features enabled

drives me nuts

indeed

people honestly just need to offload and be entra based only at this point

if they have legacy GPOs they need to get with the fucking times and move over to something like intune and manage from there

got file shares? Cool, you can do that in azure as well.

Not like it makes it more secure by default but it at least off loads risk from legacy systems

[eternal timber]

Who

I had a copious amount of alcohol

[jade wing]

Dude I have a client of mine who is still on 2016 and they have a fucking RDS server domain joined and left no firewall protecting them. I came in and they had been getting owned for a while and I separated them out from their parent companies network and isolated them until they could address and here we are like a year later and they still haven’t

[eternal timber]

Why does family just keep on making you drink

Hi Zumrr

[jade wing]

Very cool

That’s the kind of organization I can get behind def my style

[eternal timber]

I gave all my notes away

[jade wing]

I charge people for mine depending on if I’m cool with them or not. If I’m mentoring someone or they work for me I’ll hook em up. If they work with me or I don’t like them best believe they going to pay for my knowledge

It’s petty too. I charge them like 5 bucks

It’s the principle

[eternal timber]

I could win a Nobel prize and I’d still just throw my notes away

[jade wing]

I used to feel the same way until it was abused

Or someone onetime copied my notes and got recognized for them and claimed them as their own

That left a very bitter taste

[eternal timber]

Bro wrote down the secrets of the universe

[jade wing]

That one is locked away in my head. Can’t write that one down.

As soon as you do:

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-2734175389934997010

But in all honesty now in my career I don’t even let people know I have notes for the most part. I’ll still document a separate set of notes for engineers as needed or for system documentation etc I’m not going to let them fail and it makes my life easier knowing they have access to those resources and I can point them in that direction but personal notes are kept close.

That’s your secret sauce.

Like I said unless we cool and it’s symbiotic then I don’t care because fair is fair

Exactly

And unfortunately that’s all you see in tech on a professional level is parasites and snake oil salesmen

The amount of times I’ve interviewed a “Sr. Engineer” etc and been left floored by how they got to where they were is high

Haha same

[opaque flax]

I found documentation today that said “the client will send the link download the file and update it on the server”

For a Linux server

With no gui

In a mostly windows shop

I am rewriting it

[jade wing]

Wait so the machine that needs the download is windows or Linux?

[eternal timber]

Nah I’d win

[opaque flax]

Linux server

[eternal timber]

Isn’t every server basically a Linux server

[jade wing]

SSH, then wget no?

[opaque flax]

Yes

But

I had a senior NOC technician while doing a Linux ticket for them say “I hate Linux”

So

[jade wing]

Oof

[eternal timber]

I’ve had a copious amount of Johnny walker green label

[opaque flax]

I taught a coworker how to do it this morning in the event I switch teams

[jade wing]

See those are the types of people that I wonder about.

[opaque flax]

And he said “I don’t want to do. This I don’t care about learning it”

“I’m just going to send it to you next time”

After I walked him through it

[jade wing]

See I’m going to be real for me when people have that attitude it’s a fast track to losing their jobs. I no longer play nice about it anymore

I used to feel bad, I have a cold heart towards that kind of attitude now

[opaque flax]

It’s frustrating but I’m just going to to leave solid documentation about it

[jade wing]

Fair enough.

I really liked windows server core and wish it would have had some more love.

[opaque flax]

Which next time I may be on a different team and won’t be able
To help them

So

Or I’ll have gone to a different company

[jade wing]

Yea for sure.

[opaque flax]

They can call the vendor for it lol

[jade wing]

If you don’t mind me asking, without doxxing yourself what do you do now?

[opaque flax]

By title? Level 1 help desk

In actuality? A lot

[jade wing]

Sounds like you are most certainly ready for a step up then.

[opaque flax]

There’s talk of moving me into the infosec team

[jade wing]

You are displaying tier 3 at the moment

I don’t know the full extent of your capabilities but you have the mindset of a Sr. That will serve you well.

Hope you get that change

[opaque flax]

I sent, under the direction of my boss the director of security services a highlight of what I have done inside and out of my company along with my resume highlighting my infosec learnings

I’m not perfect by any means

But I’m getting there

[jade wing]

You say resume, can I assume you’re in the states?

[opaque flax]

Currently on my plate I’m updating the encryption algos for a clients vpn

And configuring, testing, and deploying a new intune policy

[jade wing]

How is your networking knowledge? Have any specific certs?

[opaque flax]

Yeah do people call it something different in Europe?

[eternal timber]

Are one of those Linux

[jade wing]

Yes they typically call it a CV

[opaque flax]

No specific certs. I’m thinking ccna

But I have a homelab

[eternal timber]

Limited to THM

[split compass]

@rapid merlin Hmm, lock downs lock downs, opened up my requests so you can ping me when you see this.

[jade wing]

CCNA is a good one. If you fast track it let me know.

[eternal timber]

So basically every server is running Linux

[jade wing]

No.

[eternal timber]

Lowkey kinda drunk rn

[eternal timber]

Why no

[jade wing]

There are a bunch that run windows

[opaque flax]

Active Directory domain, opnsense firewall with vlans, managed switch, snort IDS, tailscale for remote access

[eternal timber]

Oh?

[eternal timber]

Like?

[opaque flax]

2 pihole instances

Wazuh SIEM

[jade wing]

You got Cisco experience? What is your experience like with nextgen firewalls?

[jade wing]

Like windows server… the operating system

[eternal timber]

“Basically” means most in my books at least

[jade wing]

Literally

[eternal timber]

Yeahhh

My gf isn’t responding to my texts

Probably good cause I’m tipsy

[opaque flax]

Will do 🙂 minor experience tbh. We use Cisco meraki mostly and I have been making network maps so I make it a point to review configurations. I don’t have full write access to meraki tho

Not much experience with NGFW yet

[eternal timber]

I’m gonna learn everything cool

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-austin-powers-austin-powers-gif-austin-powers-movie-movie-austin-powers-gif-10312148211531516253

[jade wing]

Yea definitely keep me apprised of where you wind up friend I’m looking for someone with a deep understanding of merakis, Cisco leaf and slime topo and Palo Alto right now.

[eternal timber]

Gonna study bio so I can make a drug that makes me inhumanly smart

[opaque flax]

Can I dm you?

[eternal timber]

I kinda can. At least I know the basics

[jade wing]

But any sufficiently advanced knowledge of next gen firewalls will do in place of palo

[jade wing]

Yea man it’s cool

[loud osprey]

No just get rid of sleep

[eternal timber]

I’ll make the LLM im building hack you

[opaque flax]

Yeah I can’t say I have a deep understanding I wish. I have experience with sonicwall, fortigate, meraki but since I’m not on the network team I don’t do lots of configuration

[eternal timber]

Tempting

[jade wing]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-expansion-gojo-domain-expansion-ryoiki-tenkai-gif-8954021360802172436

[eternal timber]

Me fr

Imaginary technique: happiness

[gloomy brook]

can you cancel a subscription to like not auto renew?

[eternal timber]

Ye that’s called canceling a subscription

[cloud quiver]

Yes 🙂

[gloomy brook]

but like if i cancel it after the grace period, It stops after that month/year ends right?

[eternal timber]

Well ye

[cloud quiver]

It stops when your paid period expires 🙂

[gloomy brook]

alr bet

ty

[eternal timber]

You’re probably gonna pay at least one subscription after you die

[cloud quiver]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[gloomy brook]

😭

[tame kayak]

Shodan may show more Windows connected devices than Linux, but Linux runs the interwebs. I have no credited sites to show the info, as I am also a little tipsy, but "I've heard that is the case Podcast and other media ( open source security, cyberwire and I think compiler (could be lining on this one)". @eternal timber

[jade wing]

Coming from someone has who has worked vast amounts of spanning infra, across many fields and orgs including fortune 100's they still use windows servers and services for a lot. What you are referencing is that linux servers have the market share, and that is accurate for sure, it's also used a lot in data centers etc. Hell most containerized apps will run a linux backend, no reason to run them on windows. However, many orgs use windows for purposes such as AD, file shares, DNS, IIS, etc still to this day and will continue to do so. It just "works" so to speak and the curve for their engineers internally is lower. Also, despite many that are linux fan boys, myself included, there is NOT a good alternative to active directory when it comes to linux that will provide the same feature set. Also in the corporate world most of your machines are going to be windows for user endpoints and domain joined.

Now Entra ID (formally azure ad) is working at replacing the need for domain controllers in general, and for GPO's we are moving to towards intune policies. But even with that said, many still use hybrid topologies

[clear jackal]

What for?

[jade wing]

additonally, don't discount the amount of people that run hyper-v clusters, even though they are god awful

[jade wing]

Hiring out some position and it fits one of my skill sets I need

[clear jackal]

Ah

[jade wing]

we already talked about it though

took it to DMs

anyways, I'm going to pass out, night peeps

[clear jackal]

Oh, yeah, I was just asking because you mentioned some specific products and it piqued my curiosity lol

GN

[oblique horizon]

Should I try CompTIA + course if I wanna become a security engineer?

[opaque flax]

It depends if you have any it experience

Or any other certs

[jolly aspen]

would useful for getting in an entry level job like a technician or helpdesk, but is a bit on the beginner side for specifically security engineer

[tame kayak]

Yes, that is what I was referencing and I kinda thought that was what we were talking about. But I submit, you are correct in the majority of company's being Windows shops. Windows being probably the correct thing to learn before Linux.

[jolly aspen]

good day sir @opaque flax

[opaque flax]

https://tenor.com/view/good-day-sir-wonka-angry-gif-4938393

[jolly aspen]

got time for fizzy lifting drinks?

[opaque flax]

Always

Cheers

[jolly aspen]

sqlmap [INFO] retrieved:....waiting waiting waiting

[jolly aspen]

cheers

[oblique horizon]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @jolly aspen (current: #358 - 16)

[jolly aspen]

curious if this happens to anyone else, but when I access a new room, the points graph displays for 1 second and then disappears into the pennywise gutter somewhere

[opaque flax]

Nah not me

I punched penny wise in the snoot so he doesn’t bother me

[jolly aspen]

hmm, i wonder why this happens then

[opaque flax]

What browser?

Clear cache and cookies to start 😂😂

[jolly aspen]

🙃

cache money, and i'd rather eat cookies

[opaque flax]

Idk maybe there’s some JS issue

[jolly aspen]

yea, i don't need to see it. it was just an observation of strange behavior

[opaque flax]

Fair enough

Thanks Jensen

[rapid merlin]

jacket shine should be a new innovative technology they patent

like EnvironmentalBumpJackets™ rendering technology

EBJs

[opaque flax]

I forgot to check how nvidia stock did today

Not good

People are probably annoyed about the ai

[rapid merlin]

a dip today seems like

[opaque flax]

Oof the keynote really didn’t do them any favors

That hard dip after the keynote

[rapid merlin]

ya

[opaque flax]

It went up in anticipation of the keynote

[jolly aspen]

keynotes are always pump and dumps

[opaque flax]

Then I honestly think the ai shit was what got them

Fair I’m sure amd did a similar

Not bad actually

[grim imp]

nvidia to the moon

[grim imp]

what is this

[opaque flax]

Amd

[grim imp]

oh

im betting on nvidia tomorrow

[opaque flax]

They had their keynote

Yesterday morning

[frank pine]

Did TryHackMe announce the AoC2024 lucky winners list?

[opaque flax]

#1305926862114914325

[jolly aspen]

its riiiiight there, soooooo close

[frank pine]

thanks

[opaque flax]

Why answer when I can guide them to the answer

[jolly aspen]

i've been doing the same, its the only purpose of that channel now anyways

[opaque flax]

I also love just sending documentation

It’s my favorite past time

[jolly aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-daniel-radcliffe-hermione-granger-emma-watson-book-gif-5043012

[azure oasis]

im bored

[jolly aspen]

go use exiftool on some of your photos

[rapid merlin]

buy random thrift store HDDs and have fun playing the role of a digital forensic person

bonus points if you are able to visit a lava flow and secure disk erase them

[jolly aspen]

I've done this, found some interesting things..

[opaque flax]

Play video games

[jolly aspen]

guy was selling a full case of hhd from 64gb - 500gb. i got 45 of them for $20

[rapid merlin]

AI seems to view lava as a method "One unconventional method that has been discussed is the use of lava, which raises several important points regarding its feasibility, safety, and actual effectiveness in data destruction." 🙂

[chilly veldt]

Morning

[jolly aspen]

of course many bad sectors, high error rates, and some had insanely loooooooooong power on hours. but it was interesting none the less

[opaque flax]

Mornin Bella!

[jolly aspen]

mernin

[rapid merlin]

I imagine car junk yards salvaging data

[opaque flax]

I did this with a whole computer

[jolly aspen]

i didnt think about that, of course now that cars have more and more data storage and telemetry

[opaque flax]

Found lots of data before wiping

And no password on the OS

[rapid merlin]

yep

[jolly aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/emeraldcity-wizardofoz-gif-5421386

on the way to the junk yard

[rapid merlin]

many years ago I remember buying a $5.00 garage sale laptop, which was still signed into social media when I booted it up 😕

[jolly aspen]

was hoping for a lost bitcoin wallet

[jolly aspen]

ILLEGAL

[opaque flax]

Just tax returns, social security info, w-9s, drivers license pictures

Bills

Receipts invoices

[jolly aspen]

🤫

[rapid merlin]

I had no idea it was in that state

[chilly veldt]

It's so cold that I have put on my knee high boots

[jolly aspen]

yikes

[jolly aspen]

but knee high boots are cool

[rapid merlin]

obviously I erased it using dd /dev/urandom

[opaque flax]

Full company info

It was a problem

So I wiped it and now it’s my server!

[jolly aspen]

not without posting a selfie first i hope

[rapid merlin]

😄

[chilly veldt]

Yeeeee, just covering them with some wide legged pants

[rapid merlin]

I wonder if @sick lance has insight on legalities around buying hardware which has software connected to services

do's and don'ts etc.

[opaque flax]

Don’t do malicious things with it

Wipe it

You’re fine

It’s legal

[rapid merlin]

well obviously

I'm thinking like accidental

[opaque flax]

Its not ilelgal

[rapid merlin]

ah ok

[opaque flax]

Crimes require a state of mind

Modus operandi

[rapid merlin]

right, that's kinda what I was thinking

[opaque flax]

You have to have intent

[rapid merlin]

intent etc.

yep 🙂

[opaque flax]

Just buying a used piece of hardware that has data on it isn’t illegal

But once you cross the line and do something malicious it becomes illegal

[rapid merlin]

also at what point would a person report the discovery?

[chilly veldt]

That's why companies destroy their harddisks and doesn't sell them

[rapid merlin]

like say it had confidential data that was high risk, notification of the owner etc.

what that process would be

[chilly veldt]

Depends

[opaque flax]

You’re under no obligation to inform them really in most places

[rapid merlin]

true

[jolly aspen]

if its destroyable data, then i don't think a report is necessary. however! its hard to tell if the device wasnt stolen...so destroying it would be a crime

[opaque flax]

Might be different if you’re dealing with government secrets

[rapid merlin]

I did report a hardcopy paper leak once from a dumpster that was supposed to be shredded to a CISSP person in the past

[chilly veldt]

You're only obligated to inform about the data if it's something related to a crime

[opaque flax]

Which you’d have to know or a reasonable person would be able to know it was stolen

[jolly aspen]

and you can confirm the device wasnt aquired illegally

[ionic wolf]

interesting, real world scam? thoughts on what it is?

someone cloned a friends website, using a free website creator, was tipped of with an email "Someone is stealing your copywrite", but the website has timestamps on when pages where created, email was sent very soon after it was created. so i send the contact page a email with a link back to a webserver i control and there is about 5-6 differant machines/phones opening the link in china.

[rapid merlin]

ah! that makes sense

[opaque flax]

You’d have to have facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe it was stolen for it to be a crime

[jolly aspen]

posession of illegal goods doesnt require knowing they are stolen. but there is generally some leway

[opaque flax]

For probable cause no

Because people don’t come into stolen objects most of the time without knowing they’re stolen

That said you may still get arrested

And have to fight it out in court

[jolly aspen]

not entirely, il use craigslist bike market as an example

[rapid merlin]

a thift store as an example being a legit business

[opaque flax]

Pawn shops as well

[jolly aspen]

you can also look at how pawn shops need to maintain documentation to cover themselves as well

haha damn

[opaque flax]

For sure

[chilly veldt]

I have a story where it was close to the line of having to write a report on it at my old job

[rapid merlin]

oh interesting

ya I imagine there are like edge cases around liabilities

[jolly aspen]

also, we could all be pooling from different legal markets

[opaque flax]

Big truth

And different jurisdictions

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, it was the line of legal age of what was on the harddisk

[opaque flax]

But yeah if you think data was used in a crime gotta report that

[chilly veldt]

If you get what I mean

[rapid merlin]

sad, understood

[chilly veldt]

Not the funniest workday

[jolly aspen]

i don't doubt that

which cert do you think THM will launch first in feb?

🟥 or 🟦

[rapid merlin]

oh good question 🤔

[opaque flax]

I’m gonna guess red

But I’m biased

But it seems most likely

[rapid merlin]

I'm gonna guess blue

[opaque flax]

Someone wanna guess purple?

[rapid merlin]

I only guessed based on the learning roadmap

[opaque flax]

Just so we can all round it

[jolly aspen]

purple!

[rapid merlin]

ultimate surprise answer, love that

[jolly aspen]

there, its like a slow game of paper scissors rock

[opaque flax]

Red blue purple shoot!

[verbal canyon]

Red

[chilly veldt]

What do you think of this as a sticker, the font and outline okay?

[jolly aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-bunny-easter-bunny-suit-lol-funny-gif-3939312

[rapid merlin]

I can still remember him moan as he had to walk down the steps

[chilly veldt]

I will buy this outfit to have outside my riding gear😭🤣

[jolly aspen]

perfect

[high glacier]

anyone can help me decode a cipher ? 🫠

[chilly veldt]

What's it for?

[high glacier]

idk...some challenge among frnds

[jolly aspen]

dcode

[rapid merlin]

I am off to sleep, have a fun rest of your day 😴 👋

[high glacier]

i tried...i decoded from hex -> morse then stuck

[chilly veldt]

Then we most likely can't help as it's cheating

[high glacier]

no i meant to learn it so

its already over

[jolly aspen]

i'm off to sleep too, but you can send it to me and i'll loook at it in the morning

[chilly veldt]

Then ask your friends who have solved it, we can't prove that it's not a challenge that is still ongoing

Sorry

[high glacier]

😭 they arent active in that server

[high glacier]

its ok

[high glacier]

but in general to solve a cipher encoded thro multiple layers what tools one should use?

i tried cyberchef but to no avail

[jolly aspen]

trial and error, typically it would have accompanying clues

[high glacier]

no clues i found 🫠

i found this : (after converting from hex->morse)
FWHWRD ZA NQVPAONA, TITLR MQCK BS IX :#TWK ULAJQIVP EZIGE XMJXLCRXM TESKN...

i tried ceaser, for vigenere no key there

[jolly aspen]

the other thing is statistics of language - specifically occurances of specific letters or words are more common and you can infer there placements sometimes and start basically a "wheel of fortune" style or sudoku decode

[jolly aspen]

why did you choose hex>morse specifically?

and that doesnt look right for morse

[high glacier]

i ran it through cyberchef

as initial one was hex representation ig

[high glacier]

no i mean thr org cipher text after i ran thro hex, morse i got the above

this was org cipher text:
2e2e2d2e202e2d2d202e2e2e2e202e2d2d202e2d2e202d2e2e202f202d2d2e2e202e2d202f202d2e202d2d2e2d202e2e2e2d202e2d2d2e202e2d202d2d2d202d2e202e2d202d2d2e2e2d2d202f202d202e2e202d202e2d2e2e202e2d2e202f202d2d202d2d2e2d202d2e2d2e202d2e2d202f202d2e2e2e202e2e2e202f202e2e202d2e2e2d202f202d2d2d2e2e2e202e2e2e2d2d

2d2d202d202e2d2d202d2e2d202f202e2e2d202e2d2e2e202e2d202e2d2d2d202d2d2e2d202e2e202e2e2e2d202e2d2d2e202f202e202d2d2e2e202e2e202d2d2e202e202f202d2e2e2d202d2d202e2d2d2d202d2e2e2d202e2d2e2e202d2e2d2e202e2d2e202d2e2e2d202d2d202f202d202e202e2e2e202d2e2d202d2e202e2d2e2d2e2d202e2d2e2d2e2d202e2d2e2d2e2d

[jolly aspen]

morse is typically really easy to identify as it has characteristic binary short and long values

[high glacier]

ik.. i got .._ like that

[chilly veldt]

Hmmm, changed it to black text instead

[jolly aspen]

4 distinct values, 2 is always a separator...i would start there

[wooden totem]

Might be overthinking it

[jolly aspen]

d, e, f, 0 with 2 as a separator

[high glacier]

ok

[jolly aspen]

look for repeating groups - if its english then there will be some repeats somewhere

gn!

[chilly veldt]

I just want people to like it cause it's going to go to good causes 😭😭

I would feel shitty to drive an ugly bike to raise money for kids with cancer

[jolly aspen]

if you don't look good while raising money for kids with cancer, I think it cancels out the good deed

[chilly veldt]

Yeahhh, the good/cool looking part is a factor that plays in a lot when it comes to raising money, cause that's typically what gets people's attention

[rapid merlin]

How can I make friends?

[rapid merlin]

Go outside and talk to people 👍🏻

[rapid merlin]

say hi would u like to be friends

[rapid merlin]

Isn’t that elementary tho

[rapid merlin]

I go outside still no friends

[rapid merlin]

Are you missing the talk to people part?

[rapid merlin]

You never mentioned that part

But yes I talk with people

Literally did.

They all think I’m weird or psycho but in reality I am just your average dude working on minimum wage job

[rapid merlin]

Do you know what is like to have friends

[rapid merlin]

What do you even say to them to make that impression?

[rapid merlin]

No clue I guess the way I talk? I don’t know really

[rapid merlin]

I just woke up

[bright topaz]

Me too ... nothing again ... i will no more rush for make all the ... and will stop my sub i think as well ..... each time the same ... 4 millions + fake account ... so in real you have 1% to win something other the a day streak lol

[jade wing]

Yea I was going to say stealth. I tried to message you about some of the stuff we were talking about previously and it says your dms are only open to friends now, also you aren’t taking friend requests. That happened a couple of days ago. So I can’t message you anymore. If that’s intentional all good dude for sure. Just letting you know.

[rapid merlin]

That’s just the way my account is set. The DMs thing was changed because I kept getting random DMs

It was also discussed in the server

It’s only me that can send the FR

[jade wing]

Gotcha I must have missed that. Well if you ever want to dm again you’ll have to add me. All good though dude. Hope you feel better.

[rapid merlin]

I just opened my eyes

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tired-lucky-star-tired-anime-gif-1495236166145253179

[jade wing]

I was supposed to be in bed a while ago myself

[rapid merlin]

I gotta find socks and do school run

[jade wing]

But I’m determined to finish out this pen tester path by tomorrow night

Not looking forward to work in the next few hours :/

[topaz topaz]

Good morning people

Sleeping for 7 hours and the morning wakeup is still unbearable I want to pass out doing minimum work

Reminder that coffee is actually our lord and savior

[cloud quiver]

Good morning 🙂 🌅

[topaz topaz]

Good morning to you too pal, wish you all a good midweek 💪

[cloud quiver]

Thanks 😄 . I wish you the same 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @topaz topaz (current: #536 - 10)

[topaz topaz]

Thanks, have some rep in return 😎

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cloud quiver (current: #4 - 1884)

[topaz topaz]

Is there a hidden mechanic to rep or just an indicator of positive activity?

[rapid merlin]

right need a cup of tea

[chilly veldt]

just an indicator of gratitude

[steady dome]

Hi can I ask questions about python

[naive violet]

Yes

[rapid merlin]

I’m so tired

😩

[stoic quarry]

Morning all

[steady dome]

How to learn it fast I mean I still don't understand classes and the modules

[stoic quarry]

Code academy is good

Python also has their own tutorial

[chilly veldt]

Take your time, there's no "learn fast" solution, it all depends on who you are and how you learn and keep knowledge the best

[stoic quarry]

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html

Yee, best thing to do is not to move on until you understand a concept. If that means learning how an OS/Kernel works, then don't feel bad taking time to fully grasp that

[steady dome]

Okay do I need to know All the modules librarys

[stoic quarry]

No you don't need to know every library

That'd be impossible I think 😅

[steady dome]

Okay can you tell me some library that helps as cyber security

[stoic quarry]

Start with just python, then once you're comfortable with your knowledge use a library and see how it works

[chilly veldt]

depends really on the project you're doing

[stoic quarry]

What do you mean by library?

Depends what you want to do.
There are cryptography libraries.
OS system call libraries
Plenty of different stuff

[steady dome]

I don't know when I see someones code and the library he imported I confused

[stoic quarry]

Learn how Python works first, then learn about libraries and it'll make sense later

[chilly veldt]

you'll get more used to what libraries do what when you have been coding for a longer time,
you don't have to know them all, a good google search for libraries that does what you want when you program is what many do

and then just read the quick documentation/help there is for the library

[steady dome]

So the documentation can help

[chilly veldt]

indeed

[steady dome]

What about c++ after understanding python

[near sapphire]

personally for seecurity i use pwntools and pycryptodome mostly but then again depends on what ur using it for

[steady dome]

I heard about them I will try them thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @near sapphire (current: #2573 - 1)

[sick lance]

@whole topaz what you're doing is illegal, and against our comm rules to teach/discuss.

Please stop.

[stoic quarry]

I'd focus on one language until you understand it well. Most languages follow similar rules so once you know one you're kinda set

[near sapphire]

if ur using coding for scripting python should be enough but if you wanna go into something like rev eng or binary exploitation might be a good idea to learn c

[whole topaz]

ohh sorry I didn't know I will not do it again

[steady dome]

Thank you guys

[whole topaz]

just can you explain me what I did ? is this considered as unhetical or spam ? I didn't meant to sorry

[sick lance]

It's straight up illegal.

The Instagram does not belong to you, you just have permission from Instagram to use it.

Any attacks on "your" account is an attack on the platform.

[half girder]

new point for the chart ^^

[whole topaz]

oops sorry but thanks for expaining. is there a way to try offensive or defensive on my pc without being illegal ? or I just can do it on THM website ?

[upper knoll]

plenty of rooms on thm to practice both

[sick lance]

The materials on THM you can use are legal.

[near sapphire]

there's quit a bit of resources online too where they give you vulnerable machines that you could use although idk about defending

[sick lance]

Golden rule of thumb is.

If you don't have a contract don't touch it.

If it's not yours, don't touch it

[upper knoll]

koth is available on thm to practice live defence

[stoic quarry]

THM gives you express permission, Instagram never gave you that permission

[upper knoll]

as long as u stay within the scope of the rooms

[sick lance]

I wouldn't advise new people on KoTH.

The currentl players who play it all the time will just annoy them with their bootkits and auto-pwn scripts.

[upper knoll]

yer thats very fair icl its not something ive tried yet myself but for defence i think its good practice

[stoic quarry]

Que

[sick lance]

English only, please.

[stoic quarry]

I didn't bring up koth lol but I see it was the message right next to mine lol, was just confused for a sec

[sick lance]

Yeah, true

[stoic quarry]

My b 😅

[sick lance]

I lciked wrong messgae to reply to 😅

[upper knoll]

its early in the morning we all make mistakes

[stoic quarry]

Morning all, hope the weather ain't too bad for ya

[upper knoll]

its cold but im back home from germany so im chillin

[stoic quarry]

Nice

Average temperatures are like 25° for me lately

Jealous of ya

[rapid merlin]

Oh Jesus

I’ve had my tea

[stoic quarry]

Sounds like a surprising tea

What type of tea we all rocking?

[rapid merlin]

so real. aoc seems like a gimmick at this point to just get more account count.

The croissant was good

[rapid merlin]

Yorkshireee

[sick lance]

Because you didn't win anything?

[stoic quarry]

Good choice

[rapid merlin]

because its all gimmicky, honey.

[upper knoll]

i wouldnt describe others hard work as a gimmic

[sick lance]

Elaborate?

[rapid merlin]

yep i aint saying its all fake, they do give prizes. but the chances of a bot winning is way higher than an actual person. gimmick enough?

I just realised it’s my birthday tomorrow

[upper knoll]

bruh

[rapid merlin]

😆

[upper knoll]

oh damn stealth

[near sapphire]

happy one day early birthday

[rapid merlin]

I forgot

Lmao

[sick lance]

Not really, as winners are all E-mailed, and then given 7 days for the prize to be blaimed, staff take checks to make sure bots don't win. 🙂

[stoic quarry]

If you were in my timezone it'd only be 2 hours away!

[rapid merlin]

Thank god it ain’t

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @stoic quarry (current: #434 - 13)

[rapid merlin]

XD

[stoic quarry]

Lmao

No plans then?

[rapid merlin]

I don’t usually celebrate my birthday

I used to stay in every year and play video games

Which is what I did everyday anyways

So

[sick lance]

My lecturer

"Check out the extra reading material"

The extra reading material:

[upper knoll]

xd

[stoic quarry]

Lmao

[near sapphire]

he's teaching you to trust no one

[stoic quarry]

For all those kids who think they can do extra reading, try save your network.

[near sapphire]

I have a question, what do you guys think is the hardest part of learning security

[cloud quiver]

Discipline , just with anything else in life 😄

[stoic quarry]

Yeah

[half girder]

keeping your cat off the keyboard

[rapid merlin]

Impossible

[near sapphire]

well who knows maybe ur cat is a better hacker than you

[rapid merlin]

I’ve see all the videos of peoples cats and their keyboard but I didn’t realise the extent of this till I got the kitten

[rotund cipher]

Hello, I'm on university and next week I have a school project, and the topic is cyber security. So I hoped that I would find somebody that could help me make a fake facebook website (beaming site) to demonstrate how easy it can be to steal information. And the best safety procedures to keep yourself safe.

[woeful cypress]

I personally would say motivation and comparison. It feels like one of those industries that's super competitive and you can't help but feel useless in comparison to other people

maybe just me

[sick lance]

No, we won't assit with school work in this server.

[half girder]

might be, her typing looks like she writes shellcode without extra steps

[rotund cipher]

alright

[half girder]

treats work for a short period lol

[near sapphire]

def not just you, I feel useless compared to all other ppl in this dc

[stoic quarry]

Same 😅

I see some people casually flexing certs or their understanding of a topic I'm struggling with and I feel that imposter syndrome setting in again

[woeful cypress]

job interview processes makes me so self concious for those reasons i feel

[sick lance]

I don't mind job interviews.

[stoic quarry]

Mmhm

[half girder]

just take one step after another, like focussing on one topic. thm paths are good for getting a good overview but you need to dig into specific topics after, practising on the machines

[exotic vector]

yep, thats how I finally understood metasploit, I did a few tasks had a break then thought to myself "I dont understand this enough" so I started to read the documentation and redid those tasks but slower by sitting back and really taking in what im doing and also looking up the exploits so I have a better understanding.

[sick lance]

Metasploit so big in comparision to some tools though.

[stoic quarry]

Yeah it's a good habit I picked up of redoing rooms where I was confused. Builds up that knowledge

[exotic vector]

yeah metasploit is massive, I have an entire book on it xD

[half girder]

especially when you understand it at one point and can fully use it

[exotic vector]

theres 1 room im never re-doing and that is figuring out encryption calculations by hand

[stoic quarry]

Jesus

I've not come across it yet but it sounds painful

I have a whole book on sed, awk, and... something else coming.

They're so useful that using it in a 30 minute room doesn't do enough

[near sapphire]

why does that room exist lol

[exotic vector]

to get you to understand how cryptography works

[half girder]

there are apparently math geeks i was told .. they are kept in a really dark place no one walks to

[stoic quarry]

It's not a bad idea

I saw an article that explained Public key cryptography really well in a low tech way, it's been pretty useful for explaining it to people lmao

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-public-key-cryptography-really-works-20241115/

[exotic vector]

At uni I knew maths majors and physics majors around exam season they all look like they're trying to summon a cosmic horror

[near sapphire]

I think cryptography should be a math majors lesson insted of comp sci

[half girder]

i had financial maths and i suffered, atm I have maths for CS and thats kinda fun

[stoic quarry]

It's important to know stuff

[exotic vector]

yes it is

[rapid merlin]

So sick of my phone warning me about my music volume

Let me be deafened by the bass

[stoic quarry]

I think mine gave up warning me eventually

[half girder]

the phone doesnt know you are not gen mi mi mi ^^

[sick lance]

It's a safety thing.

I'm sure by, probably some consumer law, they are required to do it.

[verbal canyon]

Crypto maybe?

[jade wing]

Dude my watch does that to me in the car as well, and also my Cardo in my motorcycle helmet. Like dude I’m well aware I’m blasting my ear drums out. I’ve accepted it.

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-dance-arcane-arcane-season-2-lol-gif-7787906071870511373

I just want to party in my kitchen

[verbal canyon]

Riot cooked with arcane

[rapid merlin]

Straight facts

[jade wing]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-best-gif-2612604530998071416

[rapid merlin]

People called me Vi growing up 😆 back in the day

[verbal canyon]

Guys do we really have to network to find a job😐

[jade wing]

I had my first conflict as a human being attracted to a character from a game when they released Jinx and her promo on league. She reminded me of my wife.

[jade wing]

Unfortunately

Unfortunately we must interact with society to be part of it.

[rapid merlin]

It’s annoying

[jade wing]

Lame, I know

[verbal canyon]

Ifkr

And half the time i get ghosted for months

[jade wing]

Can’t wait to just live in a dystopian society where I can “jack in” to the net and do my thing.

[verbal canyon]

Ong

[sick lance]

It would certainly make it easier.

Networking is good, I almost got a pentest job from being in this server.

[stoic quarry]

I'm moving countries soon, my plan is to use my vr headset to have a virtual desktop where I can do my work stuff, literally gonna jack in to work then pull it off after my shift and see some sun

[jade wing]

Why can’t I just run “missions” and get paid in credits Scrubs? Hmm? Tell me WHY.

[verbal canyon]

Damn thats fire

[stoic quarry]

Dayum nice

[jade wing]

I tried that for a while it becomes draining real fast and definitely isn’t quite there yet depending on what you do.

[half girder]

oh you can, but you might end up on most-wanted lists xD

[sick lance]

yvan eht noij!

[jade wing]

They did releases windows 365 on oculus which is cool but it’s also not quite there yet

[stoic quarry]

He's just like me fr

[half girder]

try snow crash 😉

[stoic quarry]

You can duplicate your monitor(s) with a few apps

[stoic quarry]

Amazing book

Loved it

[half girder]

ive read it a couple of times, one of my favos

[sick lance]

I'd just get more monitors.

I will have a video wall by 2027.

[jade wing]

Yup I was just looking up a cover for that book to respond. Hiro is my hero.

[stoic quarry]

How else can I look around and pretend I'm in some high rise apartment and not some shabby 5x5 room in the UK

[half girder]

snow crash is actually the only book i really miss they should make a movie for .. but then, they might mess it up as they did with ready player one

[jade wing]

Dude ready player 1 was such a disappointment when it released. Me and my wife were pissed.

It was good for what it was if you pretend you never read the book. But that’s a hard thing to do.

[stoic quarry]

My cousin studies Sumerian... language? I think, idk. He was not happy with how it's shown in the book lol

[jade wing]

Neuromancer, snow crash, and ready player 1 man. Solid.

[half girder]

i absolutely loved the book, was like going through my childhood again with all the 80s references

[jade wing]

Yup same.

[half girder]

chuckles, well, no idea about that though ^^

[stoic quarry]

Eh, it's a great plot device in the book

I don't care too much if it's not perfectly accurate

[jade wing]

I want to see a good movie portrayal of the unwind series. But I feel like in the current political climate it would not be a great idea. Though that’s kind of the point.

That or the series scythe

[half girder]

not familiar with scythe, gotta google

[jade wing]

Same author as the unwind series if you’re familiar and if not definitely check that out as well. Also the illuminae files but for that one make sure you read the book. The audio book is great but the book is meant to be an experience with changes in paper etc.

[stoic quarry]

Same

[jade wing]

Snow crash is what got me hacking in second life as a kid.

Closest thing back then to that book.

[woeful cypress]

oh god I haven't heard about unwind since school omg

[half girder]

gets on my wishlist ^^

[jade wing]

Dude that book is such a good thought provoking book and I think it should be a mandatory read for kids.

It is super messed up though

[half girder]

there was also a book serie called net force, that was pretty good

[woeful cypress]

very messed up haha

[stoic quarry]

Neil Shusterman?

[half girder]

tom clancy

[jade wing]

Yup

Don’t let the premise fool you. Read the whole series if you do. It starts out about human reproductive rights and you think it’s a statement on that and to a degree you would be right. But it’s really about capitalism and greed, as well as corruption of the human condition. It’s a wild read.

[jade wing]

I mean I like to just numb my brain with his books from time to time in general he wrote some good ones.

[jade wing]

I’ll have to check this one out.

[stoic quarry]

Sounds right up my alley

[half girder]

and my all time favo 1984, who knew it would become a strategy paper in nowadays world 🙄

[stoic quarry]

Wildly taken out of context too

Won't get political but when my co-worker was ranting to me about Orwell 'predicting the future' I told him what Orwell's personal politics were and he was completely shocked

[jade wing]

That and animal farm are must reads

[stoic quarry]

But I'll leave that there

[jade wing]

You’re not wrong. But the book itself and the way it was interpreted by the people reading it as opposed to the person who wrote it is one of its more fascinating aspects to me.

[stoic quarry]

His other stuff is great

Homage to Catalonia is the first I read, amazing stuff

[half girder]

do you have a link?

[stoic quarry]

I didn't record our conversation, no

I can pop you a DM if you want

[half girder]

sure

[jade wing]

Also not to get too political, I think he wrote the book in line for what he stood for. However the context of the book was too nuanced for people of opposing ideologies and it was taken out of context to suit their agenda. I feel like those types of people likely only know the idea, the whisper of the book and what they were told it meant as opposed to actually reading it. If one truly reads the book and takes the time to comprehend it, there is no confusion to what his political beliefs were. In my opinion of course.

[stoic quarry]

Yeah, I just mentioned to Kangafoo, but my co-worker 100% had never read 1984 and just knew the quotes and rough idea

[jade wing]

I believe we are referencing the same type of person when you speak of your coworker

[stoic quarry]

Orwell has amazing rules for writing too. No Jargon

Lemme find them

[jade wing]

I had a coworker when Obama was in office in the states, when he was talking about healthcare for all, he looked at me goes “how Orwellian”. I just looked at him dumbfounded and said, do you understand that word and have you read that book? He was like “nah”. I just shook my head and walked away.

[stoic quarry]

(Slight note for number 4, 'passive voice' and 'active voice' would've been better to mention than just shortening it... lowkey contradicting rule 1)

[half girder]

ah healthcare for all only works when everyone does something for it

[jade wing]

Saved this for future me.

[stoic quarry]

Honestly the first rule is amazing

[jade wing]

It was more so that the writer was indeed a democratic socialist

I found it hilarious

[stoic quarry]

Binary can I pop you a DM

[jade wing]

Sure

[stoic quarry]

Just so we don't veer too political on ol' general

[jade wing]

Yea for sure man

[half girder]

hm we have that healthcare for all in germany and trust me, its a lotta bullshit... the mixture of our social system (payin for all) and insurance system, which is fed through the social system, is getting abused for years, therefore working people have to fill the gap for those on social benefits .. and when you really need your insurance, you gotta pay a lot for all the extras

my insurance is 0.55% points more expensive this year

it was once 12% of my pre tax, its now almost 14%

in absolute numbers, it would be definitely cheaper to have a private insurance as in the US, than paying the insurance for all and not getting any service when you need it

and the employer kinda pays the same as well for you .. so technically .. 28% .. even though its not really accurate

[stoic quarry]

Gives the single mother with 3 kids the same opportunity as the single guy living on pot noodles making 100k, seems okay to me

[half girder]

so when you have an insurance in the US, you know your costs and then think about how much % of your income it is .. when its less than 28% .. you should be happy you have that system

[stoic quarry]

But I think we move on before we get too political

[half girder]

the single mother is on tinder and writes "ready to settle, 4 kids, 3 daddys" 😉 a society isnt responsible for your decissions

[stoic quarry]

To each their own

[jade wing]

Before I go to bed. Listen Kanga I pay more than that in insurance for me and my family. The kicker? You just get your claims denied because it’s a system run by corporations not the government and they are incentivized by profit. That’s all legal here. Your system might not work. That’s fair, it’s hard to find one that does. But if you think ours is better you’re more than welcome to move down here and find out for yourself the reality of the situation.

I think you would be displeased personally

[rapid merlin]

I’m a single mother.

And not everyone gets here because of the decisions we make

It’s not just our fault

🤨

KMT

[jade wing]

The making of a truly remarkable society in my eyes, is one of compassion and one that puts its people first. A great society is one that plants seeds for trees they will never sit in the shade of.

[rapid merlin]

People’s circumstances change all the time and that’s just life

[half girder]

i wont discuss every single case, i had my fair share as placement officer, from rape to incest, i know all the stories

[jade wing]

You would see those people not taken care of by society if able?

This is why it’s not a black and white topic. But I’m going to disengage from this because this is dancing on the discord rules to closely

I respectfully bow out.

[half girder]

they are taken care of... and once you prepared them for the job market, qualified them, invested into 1:1 coaching, spent like 50k on them, they are like "oops, pregnant again"

[rapid merlin]

The government hasn’t spent a penny on my learning.

[half girder]

germany pays for everything 🤷‍♂️

[rapid merlin]

My neighbour is a single mother too and she does everything herself

[frozen arrow]

[stoic quarry]

Thank you DK

Gotta be one of my favorite kongs fr

[rapid merlin]

I can’t stop looking at that emote

[frozen arrow]

what's the easiest job in cyber security

[rapid merlin]

I have no idea actually

[stoic quarry]

Depends what you find easy

[rapid merlin]

I think the easiest would actually be the one you enjoyed the most

[frozen arrow]

makes sense

[rapid merlin]

Because anything you don’t enjoy feels like a chore

[frozen arrow]

true

[stoic quarry]

Level 1 SOC Analyst is usually entry level to security

Or it's my route anyway

[rapid merlin]

yeahhh

[rapid merlin]

Same

[frozen arrow]

alr thanks

[stoic quarry]

Don't know anyone who went straight to pentester

[rapid merlin]

I’m blue teaming too silastic

[stoic quarry]

Help desk -> SOC is a very real and very fun pipeline

[stoic quarry]

Nice! It's fun

At least I think it is

I do an itty-bitty bit of red team adjacent stuff. But it's not heavy enough to put on my CV

[slow cloud]

blue team is the best

[stoic quarry]

Cyber investigator, what a silly ass title. I love it

[rapid merlin]

I’m trying to study some red teaming too

[stoic quarry]

I'm not sure how to even break into it from where I'm at. But i'll let you know when it happens!

[rapid merlin]

Yeah let me know and tell me the secret ☺️

[rapid merlin]

Inspector gadget

[stoic quarry]

He's a security engineer at least

[stoic quarry]

Got a gig lined up (18 months in the future : - ) yay) but I'll see how it pans out

[long junco]

after expiring premium free VPN became unusable! blocking every few minutes mandating restarts. tried HTB free and it flies on free VPN!

[cloud quiver]

Try to use regular instead of VIP server

[rapid merlin]

Ohhh okay :3 good luck

[floral hawk]

Premium and free?

[stoic quarry]

Expired one too

Bit confusing

[sick lance]

#site-support please. 🙂

[wooden totem]

tf goin on in sweden

[rapid merlin]

Harry Potter rerun

[stoic quarry]

New years fireworks got replaced with flares ig

[rapid merlin]

Are those flares ?

[wooden totem]

Let me call the expert @sand trench

[rapid merlin]

I never seen one irl

[stoic quarry]

Looks like it

[rapid merlin]

The edit

That’s crazy

Why they do that

[stoic quarry]

I fat finger the capslock key

If you shoot it up then it glows bright and slowly comes down

Not like a firework where it flashes and has a fancy effect

[rapid merlin]

I don’t like the look of either

What did the tree do to them

[stoic quarry]

They're made to stand out yeah

[rapid merlin]

That tree was just chilling

[stoic quarry]

Justice for da tree

[rapid merlin]

This is why I changed my mind about moving to Sweden

[rain river]

Try psiphon

Free vpn

bur cost money for it to be faster I think

[rapid merlin]

All crime went up

[wooden totem]

It's very cool when you get the chance to shoot one in the air, but it's typically only in emergency situations

[stoic quarry]

I think they're talking about the vpn for lab/room access.

[rapid merlin]

Yeah like a zombie apocalypse

[stoic quarry]

A free vpn ain't gonna connect to the THM network

[stoic quarry]

Or if you're lost in the woods

[rain river]

Ik good free vpns

[rain river]

Oh ok

[rapid merlin]

Haha stealth does not get lost in the woods 😌

I used to go at night

Just me plodding around like a duck

[stoic quarry]

Damn

Nice

[rapid merlin]

I have a crazy story about the woods

About some homeless guy 😌

[exotic vector]

theres a group of people in my town that often play hide and seek in the woods at night... they're all over the age of 30 xD

[knotty pendant]

Hell let loose is free on epic games🤑🤑

[rapid merlin]

I love that for them

I want to go

🤣

[exotic vector]

same, I was too scared to ask because 1 of the group members is 1 of the workers in lidl lol

[stoic quarry]

I wanna join

[rapid merlin]

I once slept in the woods with a friend, in the night I heard a twig crack and I go up to look about and found nothing. My friend was like probs a fox man, dw but it was actually a man who lived there 🤣

He came and found us in the morning to share snacks and stuff

[stoic quarry]

Sounds like a cool guy

I'd love to chill out for a weekend with him

[rapid merlin]

He would tell me about the birds, bro was in another universe

[stoic quarry]

I won't break laws and say what else I want to do with him but he sounds fun

[rapid merlin]

I knew there was a person around!

He did have something on him 👀

[stoic quarry]

Sounds like just the type of guy I'd love to run into when I'm out in the woods

Pop a few flares off and sit back, eat snacks and ask him about birds

[rapid merlin]

I remember we gave him a carton of juice and he downed it

Must have been so thirsty

He was chill

And very grateful 👌

[stoic quarry]

Bless

Can't wait to meet people like that once I move

[rapid merlin]

Ah the stuff I did when I was younger 😆

Hi guys

Why i can't login my account with phone

[rapid merlin]

Double check the Pw

Phone login should work

İ did

[stoic quarry]

What error message you getting?

[rapid merlin]

And i reset my password twice

Are you getting an error ?

@stoic quarry your password or mail wrong

@rapid merlin yes

[stoic quarry]

Then your credentials are wrong

[rapid merlin]

@stoic quarry no

Make sure to just check everything, type slow and make sure everything is Caps correct

I can login with compyuter

[stoic quarry]

I mean, we can't help you further. Make sure the email is correct.

[rapid merlin]

Phones automatically add cap at the beginning of everything.

Make sure your security app isn’t blocking access too

[rapid merlin]

Okay thanks a lot

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @drowsy swift (current: #213 - 34)

[exotic vector]

I was a big nerd so when I was younger it was either playing video games or I was wild camping/urban exploring

[stoic quarry]

I wanna get back to urban exploring

That shit was fun

[rapid merlin]

Yeah

I don’t know how many times I put my life in danger

I would go into peoples house I didn’t even know

[sick lance]

Captcha?

[rapid merlin]

@sick lance I did it thanks 🙂

[stoic quarry]

What was the issue?