general

[whole gazelle]

which one?

[glass nest]

On number 2 now. gonna work through the marvel films that I have/can get from streaming services

[whole gazelle]

respect

[exotic vector]

I really like the 2nd iron man movie

[whole gazelle]

this one slaps

[glass nest]

Might sprinkle in some DC if I want something more gritty 😄

[exotic vector]

the batman movies are so good

[glass nest]

Controversial, but i'm a fan of the Aquaman movies. That could be due, in part, to confused feelings with regards to Jason Mamoa

[exotic vector]

I remember when that came out, the things my 2 brothers said in front of me and their gfs was priceless LMAO

[glass nest]

Even my sister who's been 'out' for the last 20-odd years looked twice at him 😄

[exotic vector]

xD fair I think everyone did

[glass nest]

It's gotta be some flex to look so good you transcend the average persons sexuality 😄

[exotic vector]

he had me questioning for awhile as well lol

[glass nest]

This image says it all

[exotic vector]

I love that picture

[glass nest]

Its just like.. a perfect juxtaposition of their attitudes 😄

[exotic vector]

they're both goofballs

[glass nest]

And I love it. Apparently Cavills nephew was made fun of when he said that his uncle was Superman. Soooo guess who dropped him off at school the next day 😄

[willow quartz]

aka one has a fun life and the other not so much

[exotic vector]

didnt paparazzi take a photo when that happened?

[glass nest]

i think so, yeah.

[willow quartz]

waiiitt, wasnt it u that built a pokeball or something for your nephew a while back?

[glass nest]

Mamoa is like.. a typical Hawaiian. Perfect Aquaman

Dark, yup.

Was for last xmas, actually 😄

[willow quartz]

KNEWWW IT

DUCKK, WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY XMAS TOO

Honestly coolest uncle ever

[exotic vector]

thats so cool

[glass nest]

I gotta top this year. No idea what to make 😄

[willow quartz]

he put in so much work too

[willow quartz]

I am looking sooo forward too seeing if you’ll do another big project like before

[glass nest]

Minecraft cube and a Fortnite chest with V voins too

[willow quartz]

Oh right haha yeahhh, the first thing I remember that I saw was the Fortnite chest with v-coins and gift cards if I’m not mistaken

and then I saw the poke ball

[devout palm]

Contributing to open source projects is kinda horrifying

[devout palm]

When you see a lot of wrongly made string operations

[glass nest]

Dragon egg I made

[willow quartz]

omd, looks unreal

[devout palm]

Where's dragon?

[willow quartz]

just dont help 😁

[willow quartz]

he is

[glass nest]

I made some gold ones aswell, I think they got gifted - they looked awesome

[devout palm]

I like helping

[willow quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-toothless-lick-lips-how-to-train-your-dragon-cute-gif-17325663995735481496

[exotic vector]

that looks so good, I love the filament colour choice

[glass nest]

That was two-tone filiment

[whole gazelle]

wdym

[willow quartz]

jk, world needs people like u

[glass nest]

doesnt really come across well in the pics

[willow quartz]

nah it does

To a good extent I’d argue

[glass nest]

I've been doing more woodwork lately though Dark.

[exotic vector]

oh yeah you made that really nice looking bowl

[willow quartz]

What have you done?

[devout palm]

Storing line number and addresses as string map isn't really a good idea

And it is used in 9 other places

[willow quartz]

oh my god, that is actually crazy good looking

[devout palm]

Which means i have the change them all

[whole gazelle]

IN WHAT PROJECT U FOUND THIS KIND OF DARK MAGIC 💀

[devout palm]

HAHAHAH

[willow quartz]

Almost making me want to create a bowl for my self 😭

[whole gazelle]

someone cooked this project

[floral hawk]

Is it normal for connection to keep on timeouting? Perhaps, its time of the day with too many users?

[devout palm]

High schooler project

[gritty mural]

i cant find where you post memes

[devout palm]

But he has some cool stuff

https://github.com/ZathuraDbg/ZathuraDbg

[whole gazelle]

we are not making it past internship with this one 💪

[devout palm]

If that doesn't count as advertisement

[exotic vector]

yeah, it happens from time to time its the reason why I switched to using my own attack vm

[glass nest]

mv - Making stuff is how I prevent burnout 🙂

[gritty mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266256566537949204/1305661580150571118/IMG_0523.png?ex=6733d79a&is=6732861a&hm=0c0f49120ae5b2d6c603ff4d58b2f60b4e046c82aec84f6edfddbd882ef2c31c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=673&height=663

[willow quartz]

What connection are you talking about? The openvpn file?

[devout palm]

The best thing is, he used to_string in all places. Why not just change to integer

[exotic vector]

oh you got any more wood working projects on the go since the bowl?

[willow quartz]

good stuff man

[floral hawk]

I too use my own computer, not attack box. Still, openvpn is highly unstable.

[glass nest]

Fae - afraid not, lately has just be re-organising the garage. It's like a bomb hit it. but I've seen a few things online I wanna try. I'll let you see when I've made them

[exotic vector]

have you tried changing the server and regenerating the openvpn file?

[whole gazelle]

bro ain't no way u gonna quote our whole conversation now 💀

[devout palm]

He made his own OS and compiler though

[floral hawk]

I'll probably leave the rest of challenge for tomorrow.

[exotic vector]

thats fair, yeah I would love to see when you've made them.

[keen light]

anyone here do their hacking on windows

machine

[whole gazelle]

respect tho

[glass nest]

Mv - Nah. Something I learned years ago: remember at least 1 thing about everyone you talk to. Makes the future conversations easier to start

[exotic vector]

fair enough.

[willow quartz]

must be a person with a diabolical mindset, but there is prolly someone

[whole gazelle]

fair and kinda cool ngl

[exotic vector]

like bare on the windows OS and not through a vm?

[keen light]

yeah bare

not even wsl

[exotic vector]

someone probably does.

[whole gazelle]

i mean i gues there are some tools outta here with win support, but most of the stuff is developed for linux? not 100% sure

but using bare bones windows will make it significally harder

[glass nest]

Fae - I did make this camping chair...

That was in the summer though

[whole gazelle]

god damn this is nice

[exotic vector]

that looks really nice !!!

[glass nest]

You seen squid game?

[whole gazelle]

yep

[exotic vector]

Oooo it's the mask

[whole gazelle]

okay what you have not built yet

[floral hawk]

I found there is a VIP server and it works fine now. I didn't know asa subscriber I have this.

[glass nest]

an arcade machine. oh, Wait...

[exotic vector]

I love it

[whole gazelle]

this is actually crazy

[glass nest]

Actually super proud of that one. All I had was a jigsaw and a drill.

[whole gazelle]

and a lot of free time

[glass nest]

Now... well, i have to spend 2 weeks re-organising the garage 😄

That was during Covid

[whole gazelle]

fair enough

[exotic vector]

With just using a jigsaw and drill that's so good, it looks really clean as well.

[whole gazelle]

u got skills homie

[floral hawk]

Wow, this vip connection is really good. How comes I didn't know of it 😄

[glass nest]

Along with my van that I converted...

[exotic vector]

I'm watching alien Romulus

[exotic vector]

Damn

[glass nest]

I'm using a vehicle used for transport, as a temporary house = Hacker 😄

[exotic vector]

There's someone on YouTube that does that but they got a 3d printer in there and they were doing a "invent something for 100 days challenge" as well

[mystic oriole]

can someone tell me if facebook etc. deletes the users metadata?

[glass nest]

that sounds cool

I'm not very good with 3D graphics programs. I can modify stuff, but not great at creating

The laser cutter on the other hand...

[chilly veldt]

Lmaooooo

[exotic vector]

I can 3d model just not for 3d printing

[whole gazelle]

yeah, as much as i'm aware of

[exotic vector]

Uncle Esqy out here hacking wood

[whole gazelle]

man is irl bob the builder

[chilly veldt]

My colleague was like "I have a 1.7tb project for you, give me a second and I'll make a download link for you"
2 minutes later
"Nvm, it's easier with a harddisk, you at the office tomorrow to pick it up?"

[glass nest]

Hehe. I actually spent most of last weekend fixing stuff for my neighbours 😄

[mystic oriole]

do you know how they do it ?

[willow quartz]

werent u the Swedish girl or am I gone?

[chilly veldt]

I am the danish girl

shadow is the swedish one

[willow quartz]

duck

[willow quartz]

righhttt

[glass nest]

To be perfectly honest, I think its mostly that I have a... 'self-sufficient' mindset. I like to be able to fix and do stuff myself. Not always the best way to be but shrug. I make the best of it

[willow quartz]

shit, kinda cool to see you lot after a long 4-5 months

[glass nest]

Cmon Dark - Remember 1 thing.. start the conversation 😄

[exotic vector]

My partner is the same

[whole gazelle]

dunno how they do it but there are tools outta here that let you do this

[glass nest]

Bella - How the tattoo healing up? passed the itchy stage?

[exotic vector]

I'm the new one

[chilly veldt]

it's still itching here and there, but otherwise amazing

[willow quartz]

Yeahh… meant Uncle and Bella. Sorry xD

then she talked about Shadow as well

[glass nest]

Fae is the one who's becoming the MySQL queen using the Hat of destiny

[willow quartz]

But @chilly veldt how should I refer to you, I dont get the pronouns thing. Would appreciate an explanation

[chilly veldt]

I use both she/her and they/them pronouns

[glass nest]

Could I call you.. The illustrated nord?

[boreal scarab]

It pretty

[chilly veldt]

hmmm

[elfin prism]

Hi

[whole gazelle]

wassup

[chilly veldt]

but yeah esqy, I am picking up a harddisk tomorrow

[boreal scarab]

Speaking of harddisk

@hot cairn Where mine?

[glass nest]

hehe quicker to drive to the office and pick it up than to download it.. good 'ol modern world

[hot cairn]

oh shit

its sitting boxed up on my counter

[exotic vector]

I wouldnt say SQL queen xD

[hot cairn]

😂

[chilly veldt]

yeeee 😄

[boreal scarab]

Lmfao

Good job XD

[hot cairn]

ill get it out for you tmmrw

[boreal scarab]

🫡

All good

[chilly veldt]

like "I don't feel like setting up a download link for 1.7tb so here's a harddisk with a copy"

[boreal scarab]

Gracias! 😄

[glass nest]

not that I'd EVER doubt your skills Bella... but have they backed that hard drive up?

😄

[chilly veldt]

it's a forensics

so yes

[boreal scarab]

The perks of ZFS.... The also downside of ZFS... have 12 drives on RaidZ1

I'm playing with fire!

[glass nest]

Ah, an image you are working on?

[boreal scarab]

[chilly veldt]

can't say

😛

[glass nest]

Image as in a bit-for-bit copy

[chilly veldt]

ah, yes

[glass nest]

oooh, what software are you processing it with? Encase? FTK?

[chilly veldt]

idk, guessing he just did "copy paste"

[glass nest]

Not the imagaing process. And I hope it was a littl more than copy/paste - at least through a write-blocker

but the next part - i.e processing the data. My last job used EnCase almost exclusively for computers

[chilly veldt]

well, can't say more

[glass nest]

Hehe, not after any of the gritty details - I used to work in forensics 🙂

[chilly veldt]

Can I dm?

[glass nest]

Of course. DMs always open to you

[willow quartz]

nowwww someone seems interested 😒

went from

“well, can't say more”
to
“Can I dm?” 😭

[glass nest]

It was my old job, man 😄 Pretty much all me and CMN talked about when I first joined. He even asked me to beta test a forensics room he made 😄

[whole gazelle]

bro played it well

[willow quartz]

haahaa yhhh

[chilly veldt]

it's just not a topic for here which is the reason why a DM was better to explain it to him since he was asking about it

[whole gazelle]

dw dw we just playin

[boreal oasis]

Hello

What did I miss

[glass nest]

Just me flexing a bunch of stuff I made 😄

[boreal oasis]

@glass nest you keep on flexing

[exotic vector]

And me flexing that I headbutted against a thing I've never done before until it worked lol

[glass nest]

I'll re-flex when I make more stuff. And I'm honour-bound, cos I told fae that I would 😄

[exotic vector]

100% you have to now xD

[glass nest]

Wouldnt wanna risk getting an SQL injection from you...

[boreal oasis]

It’s always good to re-flex just to rub it in lol

[exotic vector]

I missed something else out when I told you. Because I was setting up an old windows system with a database all the documentation I had to go off of was the newer versions of mysql, so I had to use that as a base to figure out the syntax it'll accept and a lot of guessing.

[glass nest]

no rubbing of anything! Just showing what I've done. I still have the first thing I ever made and it.. well, tragic. If anything, I'd hope that it would spark a tiny spark of inspiration in someone else to have a go at something new

fae - Luckily a lot (maybe all? I dunno) SQL syntax is similar/the same. So all this stuff will be transferrable. Certainly the database concepts will be

[boreal oasis]

My bad @glass nest

[exotic vector]

Yeah that's what I'm hoping but that's a learning topic for future Fae lol 😂

[glass nest]

She's gonna be so thankful to you

[boreal oasis]

So what are all you hackers working on right now

[exotic vector]

Nothing for now, I'm watching a movie tho lol

[boreal oasis]

👍

[exotic vector]

What about yourself?

[glass nest]

Me too. Watching Thor and getting ready for bed

[whole gazelle]

speedruning to get god in under 30 days

[boreal oasis]

I’m on vacation

[glass nest]

You uhh.. know theres a pool on the roof, right? (couldnt help it)

[ruby sand]

I'm doing some super 1337 studying for the comptia network+... it's... very exciting.

[whole gazelle]

glhf!

[exotic vector]

Your on Thor now? I'm watching Alien Romulus

[boreal oasis]

@whole gazelle I’m just about god level almost there buddy

[whole gazelle]

lezzz gooo

[glass nest]

Yeah... figured i'd work through the marvel universe 😄

[whole gazelle]

i have 2122 points to go

[glass nest]

but gonna have to cut this one short. It's half 11, and I like to be all tucked in by midnight

[boreal oasis]

@ruby sand good for you I have that cert with the right study guide you should pass

[exotic vector]

Fair !!

Oh no I forgot to have dinner, better get the oven pre heated for pizza

[glass nest]

ZeroCool - Next time you see a mod, ask them nicely If they still have the network+ role

[boreal oasis]

Haha 😛

[glass nest]

not joking - like my eJPT role

[boreal oasis]

So your serious

[glass nest]

Yup. Next time a mod is around just ask. they have most of the common certs on there

Pretty sure all the CompTIA ones are on there

[boreal oasis]

Why I figure mods would have most of there shit figured out

[glass nest]

they are just normal(ish) everyday people.

[boreal oasis]

Oh ok I

[glass nest]

i mean ask them to add the role to you

Not if they have it 😄

[boreal oasis]

lol

I’m just a guru not a god like you @glass nest

Your elite

@whole gazelle I will let you know when I am god status I hope you will do the same lol

[whole gazelle]

i have like 4 days to get there

[silver sky]

Hmmmmm

[exotic vector]

Hiya

[boreal oasis]

@whole gazelle It will be worth the wait we will become gods amongst men I tell you

[silver sky]

Hey!

[whole gazelle]

lezzzzzz go

[exotic vector]

How are you?

[silver sky]

All good ready for bed tho you?

[ornate reef]

Hey, i am trying to post a write up on tryhackme , it's a post on medium, i copy paste the url but when i press submit it says invalid url, it's really valid though.
It's my first time so i don't know if there is some trick
Can someone help?

[silver sky]

You've posted this in #site-support already, be patient and someone who knows will get back to you

[exotic vector]

I'm good too, just relaxing. Forgot to have dinner so now cooking a pizza

[wild rose]

Ok it's been a week since i broke my wrist and now it's starting to get itchy.

[silver sky]

The joys of casts

trust me I know, when I broke my leg it was so hard

[silver sky]

Oooooh nice

[boreal oasis]

@exotic vector I had a pizza earlier regret it now I have indigestion

[wild rose]

I shouldn't have gone out to play golf with a cast on but I needed to get out of the house.

[teal wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tryhackme/comments/196pjwp/how_to_create_writeups/

check this it may help

[exotic vector]

Oh no xD i tend to go for either Italian or Italian style pizzas

[ornate reef]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @teal wharf (current: #713 - 6)

[neon merlin]

damn I love when my work computer just decides to restart itself, getting rid of all my active windows to ask me if I want windows 11.

[rapid merlin]

Hello

[whole gazelle]

hi

[rapid merlin]

how u doing

Do You have any comptia certs @whole gazelle

[whole gazelle]

nah bro don't have any

[rapid merlin]

same

im trying to get my Net+ right now

[placid lagoon]

Is it possible to get job in cybersecurity without a degree?

[rapid merlin]

Ive never had a job in cybersecurity

So i couldnt tell you @placid lagoon

[whole gazelle]

same here brother

i'm just doing this shit from curiosity and beacuse i suck at software engineering

[placid lagoon]

Coding is hard.

[whole gazelle]

but it's also crazyyy fun

i have love hate relationship with coding

[placid lagoon]

Yeah, when the script actually works.

[whole gazelle]

i mean debuggin is not so hard for me, or writing simple stuff. i find that writing something actally bigger is stupid hard

[placid lagoon]

I guess I just need to gain more experience.

[whole gazelle]

yeah me 2

[placid lagoon]

What languages do you use?

[whole gazelle]

i consider myself language agnostic i mean i don't limit myself to specific language. it all depends on what i wanna work on

but my goto is GO and c

now learning rust cuz c is gettin annoying

#programming is the place for this btw

we should go there :3

[placid lagoon]

Oh ok

[brittle lynx]

Sup hackers. Wanted to let u know pwnedlabs is providing free beta testing to their enterprise AWS Lab environment called AWS Cyber Range . This environment usually costs hundreds of dollars to get access to on something like TryHackMe and thousands as a corporation if you use HTB.

[neon merlin]

Was just send a 590mb powerpoint presentation. Didn't know they could get that big.

[whole gazelle]

@boreal oasis did it, got GOD

[boreal scarab]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4ypd7o3hMGXW6KbYO73aux?si=ea659f0662114768

For all the US Veterans! 🫡

[oblique loom]

Real talk, would a company hire an entry level cybersecurity analyst with nothing more that THM labs? Like, would that be validating enough or na?

Experience-wise

(I say no, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong.)

Job market is USA

[blazing granite]

the answer it's depends on the company, a big company probably won't but a mid-small might

[oblique loom]

In the USA market?

I swear, the US is stupid with its cybersecurity infrastructure

[blazing granite]

world-wide, I worked for a few US companies, that had branches on other countries

[clear jackal]

No, it's not experience

Also, #cyber-and-careers

[blazing granite]

entry level on a small company if you have the knowledge and you can prove it, they might take you without any cert, but it's all depends on the company, every company is a universe 🙂

[oblique loom]

I have my Comptia sec+

[neon merlin]

They could be bullshitting but I've seen people on here saying they're turning down entry level roles with no certs.

[oblique loom]

And an associate in computer science

[neon merlin]

As in they're already being offered jobs

[oblique loom]

I'm just trying to figure how to get my foot in the door. Cause what I'm doing so far isn't working

[clear jackal]

If you have zero professional experience on the resume, and are going for a position in cybersecurity, it's highly unlikely

Cybersecurity involves risk

[oblique loom]

I have 7 years helpdesk technician

[clear jackal]

That changes things

I don't think you mentioned that before unless i missed it

If you have an AS in CS, Security+, and Helpdesk, start applying

[neon merlin]

"nothing more that THM labs?"

associates in computer science
7 years in computers
Comptia sec+

Bruh

that aint nothing

[oblique loom]

7 years on the job experience, associates of Computer Science , systems administration and networking. And a comptia sec+ April 2023

[clear jackal]

Yeah, start applying

If you're not getting results, post a redacted copy of your resume in #cyber-and-careers

[oblique loom]

Of course it ain't nothing, I'm talking entry level

Not trying to be cybersec engineer

[neon merlin]

But you said you have "nothing more than THM labs"

[oblique loom]

I have on the job experience but it's not in a SOC position

[clear jackal]

It's still experience

It's not nothing

[blazing granite]

depends on the role, and the company, if it's an entry position like soc, and you have the base knowledge some people will take you because they can shape you to their liking

[neon merlin]

If I wanted an IT job I'd find some way to put that I run a computer club at the school I teach at. Cause it's all experience at the end of the day.

[clear jackal]

Do you have any data? You're going to be struggling to even get an interview, much less an offer.

[blazing granite]

entry soc position are usually at night shift where nothing happens, and if something happens you call a soc L2

[oblique loom]

^ tbh

[clear jackal]

Experience on a resume specifically references professional experience

[oblique loom]

See it's easy

Don't get the over-the-top prerequisites

[blazing granite]

my experience, in Israel market.

[oblique loom]

Block an IP address

[neon merlin]

Yes it's something I do in my professional career as a teacher.

[oblique loom]

Fucking easy lol

Done that so many times with SOC

Without*

[blazing granite]

nothing is easy 😂

[clear jackal]

So annecdotal and in a different job market than the one being discussed

[oblique loom]

You got to a point we're you're comfortable :)

That's where I'm at

[neon merlin]

Instead of asking "would someone hire someone" you can also just go striaght to source and just look at job listings.

[oblique loom]

Get*

[neon merlin]

See what they actually want

[oblique loom]

Hate to break it to ya, already did that

[blazing granite]

one of the toughest markets

[oblique loom]

Why you think I'm asking the other "source" xD

[clear jackal]

Against what metric?

[neon merlin]

I just found a "Jr IT security specialist"
"Qualifications:
No prior experience required , but familiarity with SOC 2 and ISO 27001 certifications is a plus.
Basic understanding of IT management processes and policies.
Knowledge of basic to moderately advanced security techniques, especially in cloud environments.
Previous experience in IT security is advantageous .
Familiarity with Docker and Kubernetes is beneficial but not mandatory.
Previous helpdesk experience, including employee onboarding/offboarding and IT equipment management, is a plus.
Experience with cloud-based directory and identity management platforms like JumpCloud is advantageous .
Strong analytical and problem-solving skills.
Excellent communication and teamwork abilities.
Eagerness to learn and adapt in a fast-paced environment."

You probably have all of that

[oblique loom]

If I ask a question in this chat, usually means I'm looking for a general more international view point because it's usually the most accurate.

[neon merlin]

But it's in UK unfortuantly

[oblique loom]

I know I do

But I don't have the "paper"

[neon merlin]

No where there is it saying a cert is required tho

[oblique loom]

I have a cert

Gonna get my 2nd one in dec when the new test come out

[blazing granite]

top tech nation, with high qualify people, even some people finish the army with cyber experience, so the competition is brutal and companies are spoiled for choice

[oblique loom]

...

[neon merlin]

The only problem with this listing is "Competitive salary and benefits package."

If it's so competitive tell me what it is

[oblique loom]

That's what I'm getting next

New version of the test comes out in Dec

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @clear jackal (current: #17 - 472)

[oblique loom]

Same! Just waiting and studying as much as I can

[clear jackal]

Security+ is the baseline cybersecurity certification, Pentest+ isn't automatically better because it's the next "level"

[oblique loom]

Tbf I am mainly going for an offensive security position

If I can

[clear jackal]

For a pentesting certification, it doesn't have a practical, which is not great

[trim scarab]

CySA+ is the lvl above sec+ ircc no ?

[clear jackal]

In a direct line, I think so, but pentest+ is still on that next level iirc

[neon merlin]

Do you think it's worth getting basic certs like ones that show you know the fundamentals of Linux? I've seen a lot of people say they're a waste of time because it's basic knowledge. But it proves you have that knowledge. 🤔

[clear jackal]

If you're doing Linux certifications, do the Red Hat ones

Getting certification to get certifications isn't great though

[neon merlin]

It's just that it's hard to write "I am good with computers" on a CV.

[clear jackal]

Certification chasing isn't recommended and kind of has a stigma associated with it

[oblique loom]

If you don't live in the USA would you say it's easier to get a cybersecurity position in whatever country you live in?

[trim scarab]

just write the skills u use one a computer like "Linux Shell Python"

[clear jackal]

I live in the US

[trim scarab]

stuff like that

they'll know you know at least some

[oblique loom]

I mean those that don't

[neon merlin]

Master of neofetch

[clear jackal]

My recommendations are typically US specific

They're also applicable to a lot of western countries

[oblique loom]

I'm looking for an international baseline

[clear jackal]

You can't really get that

[neon merlin]

It sounds like it's tougher to get these jobs in USA but they pay more.

[oblique loom]

Yes you can; gotta be annoying enough.

[clear jackal]

Everywhere is different

[dull river]

I can't connect to ngrok tcp what's up with that ?

[neon merlin]

like in UK SOC1 is a $35k job I guess that's why they don't ask for much

[clear jackal]

Again, taxes are done differently here. Comparing salaries across borders isn't going to give you a direct comparison

FAANG salaries also skew the market heavily along with high COL cities

[oblique loom]

Omg, I'm asking for an international baseline to compare to US standards to better guage expectations.

[clear jackal]

There is no baseline

[trim scarab]

where are u based ?

[clear jackal]

It's regional

[oblique loom]

Baseline means average

Average

😑

International average

[clear jackal]

It does not work like that

I am telling you

[oblique loom]

....

I know that

[trim scarab]

like imagine india vs usa

in terms of wages

[clear jackal]

There is no international average

[trim scarab]

it doesnt make any sense

[clear jackal]

For certs, for salaries, etc

[oblique loom]

You're not understanding

But it's fine

[trim scarab]

look on glassdoor to have an idea of what you can expect in your region

[clear jackal]

Please help me understand so I can help you

[oblique loom]

Maybe I'm not explaining it right

[neon merlin]

Or China vs USA

Working at Alibaba as a dev only $1k a month

Yeah Alibaba would be the equivelent of working for Google in China and the pay still sucks because China

[oblique loom]

If I was in Spain, let's just pretend. Could I land a cybersecurity job with the same experience and education I currently have or not at all. What is the baseline for entry level positions, internationally? Aka, whatever country you're in, cause I know this chat is diverse. What would meet qualifications in your country.

[blazing granite]

so go to Spain, problem solved 😉 😂

[oblique loom]

I wish

[neon merlin]

Like casually searching "soc" on indeed.co.uk quickly, you look qualifed for some roles there. In UK.

[trim scarab]

if u have an IT degree and certs relevants with the field with some experience/projects it should be enough

[oblique loom]

They own me anyways lol

[trim scarab]

like what can u offer more than that anyways

[oblique loom]

Ok, so by UK market-wise I'd meet the level at least.

That is information

This is what I mean

[clear jackal]

This is still trying to assign an average or like requirements across borders and cultures. Unless you spoke fluent Spanish, and had the legal right to work there, the answer would no.

[neon merlin]

The job listings are quite vague. They don't seem to say "YOU MUST HAVE THIS CERT" but they say a lot of "Have demonstratable knowledge in XYZ"

[oblique loom]

It's to get a general idea

That's it

Am I going to move to the UK cause job easy to land? Fuck no

As if i could anyways

[clear jackal]

That's not how it works though, you're trying to get a "general idea" of something that does not exist.

[oblique loom]

I'm trying to get a general idea of what it's like in other nations

That doesn't exist?

There are other nations on this planet yknow

It's not all usa

[clear jackal]

I hope you have a pleasant night.

[oblique loom]

Look, not trying to upset you. Just trying to clarify, all right?

I ask this question because I want more-so international perspective

[neon merlin]

Skill requirements yes, but cert requirements perhaps not.

[swift ice]

yeah, right next to the PenTest+ in terms of the CompTIA cert renewal ladder

honestly though, CompTIA certs above a Security+ are just HR bypassers

[oblique loom]

Ok ok, hold up.

Let's say this.

If me, American with associates in computer science systems administration, comptia sec+, and 7 years on job experience.

If I wanted to apply for a SOC position in the UK, what are my chances?

[neon merlin]

@oblique loom Just start applying for jobs lol. Thats what everyone was saying like 30 minutes ago.

If you don't meet the requirments the worst thing is they say no

[oblique loom]

Already there my dude

Luck ain't on my side rn

[swift ice]

idk what the work visa requirements or work requirements for the UK are

[oblique loom]

That's why I ask

I wouldn't ask you guys' something annoying if I haven't already done research

[neon merlin]

You need to have a job offer paying £38,700

Or be going for a job in a shortage field.

[swift ice]

how much is that in USD

[neon merlin]

Just shy of $50k

[swift ice]

tough work

[oblique loom]

Well fuck, that's legit where I'm kinda at

Now we got a plan

Kinda lol

[blazing granite]

you apply to 100 job offers to get 5 interviews and if you're lucky a job offer 😂

[swift ice]

$50k can get you a shack outside the highway in Los Angeles

and Nishin cup noodles for breakfast, lunch, and dinner

[oblique loom]

That's legit why I ask a cybersecurity discord server about job market related to cybersecurity. Yes

[neon merlin]

£38k will get you a room under the stairs in London. With 4 other room mates.

[swift ice]

which state is that

a 50k house? no way

[blazing granite]

it's a tough market

[oblique loom]

I know that

Omg

Nvr mind

[swift ice]

??????

[neon merlin]

Do you have a job now?

[swift ice]

what's with the aggressiveness

[neon merlin]

Like if you're already working and looking for cybersec jobs on the side no need to be anxious.

[swift ice]

huh?

[keen light]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[neon merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-chips-eating-nom-crisps-gif-22496360

[swift ice]

how was I rude for asking where a 50k house was lol

[keen light]

gonna get my european passport soon.

[oblique loom]

I'll tell you guys this the cheapest house. You can get right now in Las Vegas. Nevada is probably about $600000. And that is a old abandoned drug den and downtown.

[swift ice]

deal

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-popcorntime-ok-gif-18727575

[neon merlin]

So happy my people voted our right to a European passport away 🥲

[swift ice]

Brexit, I assume?

[neon merlin]

yup

[keen light]

yeah im in uk too but i have irish relatives

[oblique loom]

Hope you plan on refurbishing it cause it has not been touched since the 60s

[keen light]

ASBESTOS

[neon merlin]

I'd be in Switzerland right now if it wasn't for Brexit

[trim scarab]

switzerland is not in EU

[neon merlin]

But they do grant EU passport holders right to work

[oblique loom]

Fuck EU, I'm going to the Moon now. Lol

[keen light]

i think they have a lot of deals with europe for university and stuff

and a lot of other things

[neon merlin]

Switzerland is in EU wile getting to say they aren't

[blazing granite]

better bring a lot of oxygen 😂

[oblique loom]

Tbh, if I could be on the first rocket to Mars. I'll do it no second thoughts.

[neon merlin]

If you get a visa to Switzerland you have a schengen visa and can visit France. But if you get a visa to France you couldn't go to UK even when they were in EU.

[oblique loom]

If I legit wanted to go to the Europe. It will be Germany. Cause apparently that's where most Americans migrate to.

[trim scarab]

its hard to get a swiss visa 💀

[blazing granite]

if you're in Switzerland why in hell do you want to go to France 😂

[trim scarab]

fr

[keen light]

Im pretty sure pay in spain for cyber is a bit less than in uk, but its well worth it tho for the sun.

[oblique loom]

I say Spain because half my family came from there like 400 years ago.

[trim scarab]

u in south america ?

[oblique loom]

No....

I'm American

[neon merlin]

I drove to Evian les bains in France last time I was in Switzerland. Was alright.

[neon merlin]

Depends on your country.

[blazing granite]

nothing wrong with UK, but Spain has more sun, better food and better wine 🙂

[neon merlin]

Unless you mean 3rd country work visa. Those are hard to get.

[trim scarab]

like always yeah

[oblique loom]

There's an old castle in Spain that belongs to my family and I want it back

[trim scarab]

i feel like its way easier to get into cyber is the US than in europe no ?

[oblique loom]

Tower de la Garza (i think)

[neon merlin]

To get hired in Switzerland as non EU the company needs to show you're so amazing that no one in Switzerland or the entire EU can do your job.

[oblique loom]

Idk that's why I'm asking xD

[blazing granite]

France is nice to visit but shite to live

[trim scarab]

depends where for real

[swift ice]

why is it bad to live there

asking as an American

[trim scarab]

i hated marseille but the sun is alright.

Paris you have to like high energy cities

bordeaux is quite nice

toulouse also

[neon merlin]

I hope UK rejoins EU later. Come on Labour are in power now. Just go back in. The party and voters that wanted out isn't in power now.

[trim scarab]

but it's smoll scale compared to the bigger cities

[oblique loom]

My ancestors came to America, conquered Texas, New Mexico, and part of real Mexico under Spain.

That's was 1600s I think. So, how do I get my castle?

[blazing granite]

they're so picky because it's a great place, they aren't begging for people they take the best

[trim scarab]

but u have amazing health care and cheap internet in france

[oblique loom]

Cheap internet? 0.o

[keen light]

most eu countrys have free health care

sorry i mean universa

l

[neon merlin]

If your in EU you can just be uneducated and go there and pick fruit for $22 an hour. Being in EU just bypasses all that.

[oblique loom]

France not a bad place tbh

[trim scarab]

i'm getting ready to do a bachelors degree and the gov will finance it and pay me a small wage while i do it

[oblique loom]

My great great grandfather from the France. Lol

[keen light]

what coutnry you in ? , is it a degree apprenticeshi

[trim scarab]

france

[blazing granite]

I love France big fan of their wine and food, but I'd rather live in Switzerland, that any place in France, most french people are racist as shit and not easy to live with 😂

[oblique loom]

How is France?

I hear bad things, but I don't belive them to be true.

[neon merlin]

They get lots of migrant farm workers in Switzerland that come in from places like Portugal. Get paid tons of money for picking crops then go back and live like kings in Portugal.

[trim scarab]

nah it's a bac+3 degree, work/study degree you have to find an entreprise that will finance it and make u work 4days a week, they'll pay u minimum wage also (1k4€)

[oblique loom]

No shit?

[trim scarab]

what did u hear ?

[oblique loom]

I hear bad things about Portugal

[neon merlin]

Switzerland has the best of French, German and Italian food

[keen light]

nice, what subject ?

[trim scarab]

Sysadmin

[neon merlin]

And guns if thats your thing

[oblique loom]

Riots, poor infrastructure, and crazy PM (I think(?)).

[neon merlin]

You could be talking about any country there.

[blazing granite]

believe it, I have a lot of friends living in France, they have EU passport, but they weren't born in France so they're automatically 2nd class citizens. I've been many times in France a lot of people they wouldn't look at you if you don't speak French to them

[oblique loom]

.. yeah that's true lol

[blazing granite]

has French, German and Italian food for sure, the best I don't think so

[trim scarab]

yeah we like to riot, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for real.
We have pretty good infra ngl. And yeah lot of people speak only french but in paris you can get arround speaking english.

[neon merlin]

There's not as much gun freedom in Switzerland as USA but it's the best in Europe probably.

[oblique loom]

Works for me

Better than this stupid desert lol

[neon merlin]

Say I want to buy a pistol and I'm a Swiss citizen. I just fill out a form saying I am buying a pistol and send it to the police.

[keen light]

True but switzerland is much safer, even compared to countrys that dont have guns

[trim scarab]

yeah there is a lot less people to police

[neon merlin]

In UK, first you can't buy a pistol they're banned. But if you wanted to buy a shotgun you would request permission from the police. Instead of just informing them.

[oblique loom]

Tbvh the one thing about living in Europe that scares me is the thought of a future ww3

[blazing granite]

less schools/college shootings, I can live with that 😂

[trim scarab]

lmao

you can just fly out if it's the case

since you're american

[oblique loom]

Last place I want to be is France when the Germans invade again

Lol

[neon merlin]

When I am visiting my family in Switzerland I think it's wild how schools don't have fences around them. Like anyone can just walk onto the playground of a school. No gates, no fences. But that's how safe their country is.

[cloud quiver]

What were they thinking when they allowed shotguns but banned pistols 🤣

[keen light]

nah the real places you gotta worry about are the old soviet satallite states there the ones in danger

[trim scarab]

we have the best k/d in history 😂

[blazing granite]

they don't have it, because there is no need for it, they are probably one of the most civilised people in the whole planet 🙂

[swift ice]

worry about the Russians invading, not the Germans lol

[neon merlin]

Their logic is pistols are easy to conceal. It was also a kneejerk reaction to the 1997 Dunblane school shooting which was done with a pistol. A study was commissioned that concluded that pistols should not be banned. Northern Ireland followed the commission and didn't ban pistols. England, Scotland and Wales gave into the media and banned them.

[keen light]

dont worry to much tho all the north korean reinforcments are to busy goooning for boobies to fight

[swift ice]

I heard about that lmao

[neon merlin]

Shotguns have their own special easier to apply for licence in UK. Probably for cultural reasons.

[cloud quiver]

Thanks for the explanation

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @neon merlin (current: #644 - 7)

[neon merlin]

Shotgun shooting is part of upper class UK culture

[keen light]

yeah im not american but someone told me that in america you can own a rifle before a pistol because the pistol can be concealed

but it might be FALSE

[rapid merlin]

"goooning for boobies" sounds like the name of a punk album 😄

[oblique loom]

Europe too crazy, dammit. Lol

I'll just stay here across the ocean in Nevada where I belong... xP

[neon merlin]

You can own a .50 calibre sniper rifle in UK but they wont let you have a pistol. It all comes down to concealability.

Also you probably wont find any ranges in UK that would allow you to shoot it.

[oblique loom]

I have this lol

[neon merlin]

Nice, I have a crappy Russian shotgun

[oblique loom]

This crappy ww2 chinese semi lol

Real talk, definitely not crappy. XD

Fairly powerful

[neon merlin]

In Switzerland I "have use of" a Sig Sauer.

[cloud quiver]

I didn't know that gun laws are so liberal across the world 🤣

[oblique loom]

I always wanted to have a working German MG42 machine gun

[neon merlin]

Most people in UK think guns are totally banned. It's wild when you see them arguing on the internet. "Well we banned guns and we don't have shootings" and I'm there with my shotgun in the wardrobe.

[blazing granite]

some places are not liberal, but well implemented

[oblique loom]

Doesn't UK have stabbings? I hear that often.

[high mulch]

LATAM moment

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cro-crow-hi-yo-hello-gif-9481348184592993500

[trim scarab]

my weapon of mass destruction 🤣

[neon merlin]

China (where I reside for work) is very not liberal with guns

And airsoft gun is a firearm that will get you 5 years.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-furret-walking-cute-gif-15272739

[oblique loom]

Ok, so, as an American. Which European country can I move to and have the most "success" or am I just gonna be called, "StUpId MeriCaN"? Lmao

[neon merlin]

If you want to shoot action air (a competative sport involving air pistols) you need to register with the Chinese sport shooting association as a sportsperson just to purchase an air pistol

[neon merlin]

An English speaking one maybe.

I find Swiss people to be cool with you not knowing how to speak French or German.

[oblique loom]

Well, i know some people here from the UK

And we don't hate them

[neon merlin]

And lots of people speak English there.

[high mulch]

the few people from switzereland I've interacted with, they speak good English. So idk, if that's the average citizen at least.

[oblique loom]

Switzerland sounds peaceful tbh

Sounds like they make good chocolate

[high mulch]

It is, I know some coworkers they have family in there.

[neon merlin]

When I go there it seems anyone who is a millennial or under can speak English.

[high mulch]

some of them are from cuba but they moved to switzerland long time ago

[cloud quiver]

Well , In my country you can't have legally anything other than semi-auto pistol and you can buy it by yourself . You need to pass official training and get official certificate from the police . You need to build a special safe embedded into wall in your house and build a special safe for rounds because you can't have both at the same place . You have police checks twice a year for that . If you're caught with illegal gun , min sentence is 3 years of prison 🙂

[neon merlin]

And Gen X is they have a customer facing job.

[oblique loom]

I just want a machine gun that can shread watermelons like that YouTube video with the MG42 x.x

[neon merlin]

Can't have any other gun apart from a pistol? Wild.

But the safe requirements are the same as UK.

two safes, one for guns, one for ammunition, never should the two be stored together.

[cloud quiver]

Yes , and you can't have an automatic pistol only semi-auto. It's also hard to get a license for that.

[oblique loom]

That's a lot 0.0

[neon merlin]

Unless it;s shotgun shells for some reason you can just throw them in a drawer or leave them on the table.

[oblique loom]

Just for a gun

I have a ton of bullets more powerful than nato rounds lol

[neon merlin]

Shotgun shells in UK can't be purchased by someone without a licence but can be posessed by people with out a licence which is strange.

[oblique loom]

I make fun of nato rounds actually lol

[cloud quiver]

Tbh I never saw a pistol/rifle in my life 🤣 . I only saw police officers carrying pistols .

[oblique loom]

I've fired ww2 bolt action rifles in HS

In my prime I could hit at 200M ^_^

That was with a Soviet WW2 bolt action

Forgot the name

I've rarely fired modern weapons tbh

[neon merlin]

45-70 is the most unpleasant thing I've shot

[oblique loom]

That's not bad!

Got good kick to it

[neon merlin]

It just feels bad wherever I shoot it

[oblique loom]

Just gotta hold it tight with a good grip

[neon merlin]

I prefer to shoot 223 or even 22lr because I like prone target shooting

[oblique loom]

I've fired tons of high powered rifles and I get that they can be a pita

7.62(?)

Something like that. Not nato rounds for sure.

Nato 5.56

[neon merlin]

UK should rejoin the EU then unban 22lr pistols

It would allow so many sports to become legal

Including Olympic events

[oblique loom]

I just would like to visit the old world for once sometime in my life

[polar spoke]

7.62 is a NATO size as well

[oblique loom]

5.56 nato

They did up it tho

Very very recently

[polar spoke]

What

[oblique loom]

Cause of China

[polar spoke]

There’s many different NATO calibers

5.56 is not the only one

[oblique loom]

🇺🇸🇳🇿🇯🇵vs.🇨🇳

2027

$50 on the table

[neon merlin]

Do employers like to see if you have a GitHub?

[oblique loom]

Some do ask for it on their applications but it was always like an optional question to answer.

[tepid furnace]

github page that redirects to roblox

[oblique loom]

Na, Minecraft

They want true vets

I hope the FBI things works go enough even if it might sound unbelievable it is true. Lol

[neon merlin]

I put stuff I've made from python tutorials, my own scripts and copys of useful scripts like linpeas on mine.

[oblique loom]

Yea!

Most of my recent cybersecurity exp is mainly social engineering attacks and principles. That's been my main focus as of late.

Like, my current gig is about 90% social engineering techniques

[rapid merlin]

one of my cybersecurity jobs was obtained by doing street outreach doing social work

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/for-ghost-da-best-gif-18607869

[quasi hedge]

How do you even get a job in social engineering?

[rapid merlin]

psychology

being a good listener 🙂

[oblique loom]

If you mean me, I can't really say. But, I work as a Lone Wolf w/ the US government as a client for domestic related issues.

(Actually serious tbh)

[quasi hedge]

Oh, I was thinking about one of those physical pentesting jobs where social engineering is used to break into places

I've never even seen a job posting about them

[oblique loom]

I do spy work pretty much

[quasi hedge]

Do you wear a coat?

[oblique loom]

No, but I have gloves

Lol

My civilian job is an IT technician for an school.

[quasi hedge]

Eh, then not a real spy. We need more James Bond esqe

[quasi hedge]

Physical or offsite

[oblique loom]

Onsite

[quasi hedge]

Ah then you're good, I like the onsite people in school IT at my school

Offsite everybody hate's from staff to students

[oblique loom]

We work hard, thank you

[quasi hedge]

Hey also any ideas how students request permission to visit sites that are blocked in the general firewall. I'm in my school's coding club and we can't even access github.com on our school network.

[oblique loom]

I have github blocked at my school for obvious reasons. Lol

[quasi hedge]

I'm quite curious why github needs to be blocked

[oblique loom]

Vulnerability scripts to bypass GoGuardian is one

GAC is another

[quasi hedge]

Oh, didn't realize that

My school uses a VPN GlobalProtect then routes it through it's custom firewall which performs packet level inspection

[oblique loom]

I let the students exp free internet as much as possible but anything that can get around the browser or our monitoring system is a ban.

[neon merlin]

Can anyone recommend a CTF on THM for someone who's at a passed cyber security 101 level? I've only done blue so far.

[quasi hedge]

Oh k

Any ideas about the process to request for our laptop's to be unblocked from the school's firewall?

Like just for the coding club

[oblique loom]

That would be most likely a separate configured OU (organizational unit) that includes your devices and accounts

This OU would then have the sites white-list

[quasi hedge]

Yeah, but like how do I approach them or who do I even approach for that matter

[oblique loom]

I do that for some students tbh

[quasi hedge]

Local IT's a flop in that case and Remote IT need's authorization but fail to say from who

[polar spoke]

GitHub banned at school sounds awful imo

[wild trench]

Hey since you’ve passed it let me ask you. How did you get imphash for cobaltstrike.exe under flarevm task?

[oblique loom]

Idk about your situation. But in the CCSD if you want a specific site unbanned for whatever reason, you'd fill a form. This form gets reviewed and approved or deni3d by me. And boom you have access not non at all.

[neon merlin]

Let me have a look

[quasi hedge]

Oh k, is your school a public or private one

[oblique loom]

Public school

[neon merlin]

GitHub is blocked in China and India lol

[oblique loom]

We are the 5th largest district in the USA

[wild trench]

You wanna check? Or you mean I should send a screenshot?

[oblique loom]

Lots of adversaries

[neon merlin]

I'm just walking back to my computer from lunch break I'm going to have a look

[quasi hedge]

I'm in the top 50

[wild trench]

That’s crazy. Why?

[quasi hedge]

Oh just found the form

Select "BLAH" is just beyond funny

[oblique loom]

We have it banned cause we don't want kids running malicious scripts on the machines

[wild trench]

Ok, thanks. That’s the last question for me on 101

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @neon merlin (current: #593 - 8)

[polar spoke]

Wouldn’t it be easier to just block script execution?

[neon merlin]

Probably the same reason Wikipedia is banned in China. Or Reddit. Or discord is banned in Russia

Control

[quasi hedge]

Script's are needed for comp sci students

[polar spoke]

“Malicious scripts” can come from anywhere, blocking GitHub seems completely infective imo

[wild trench]

Lol really

[oblique loom]

We have it both ways. But GG and GAC can only block so much

[simple valve]

What about gitlab, bitbucket, dockerhub, etc.

[polar spoke]

This

[oblique loom]

Look, I don't North Korea the internet for the kids.

[wild trench]

Of course, control. It’s backward

[oblique loom]

I want them to exp the internet to its true yet at a safe level.

[polar spoke]

I get the idea, but it seems… oddly implemented imo

[oblique loom]

I have too for security reasons

[polar spoke]

But that’s my point

For security, blocking GitHub does probably nothing

Whereas blocking execution would have an actual impact

[oblique loom]

Only certain classes have those permissions accessible

Oh it does a lot

[neon merlin]

Github blocking in China is weird though. It periodically works and doesn't work. And pulls and commits periodically don't work and work

[quasi hedge]

Hey @oblique loommind if I dm you for a question?

[oblique loom]

A github script the kids learned last year allowed them to bypass GG by running a refreshing the page multiple times.

[polar spoke]

Sounds like you have much bigger issues than GitHub…

[oblique loom]

I have wild students

But it is ok

[cloud quiver]

Try with Basic Pentesing room

[polar spoke]

Also, a “GitHub script” could just as easily be a “pastebin script”

[oblique loom]

I will teach them the ways

[polar spoke]

Hence my original confusion on why GitHub would be blocked

[oblique loom]

Paste bin is banned too

[polar spoke]

Any student could look it up on their phone or at home, repaste it to any website or onto their own flash drive or etc. and bring it to school the next day

[quasi hedge]

I just transfer over youtube video's locally via a USB to watch them on my school laptop

[neon merlin]

In my day we just switched the keyboards around with another person when they weren't looking and wrote "I hacked you" on their word document. Kids these days have much more opportunity for mischief. A 12 year old student told me he uses Kali linux the other day.

[oblique loom]

You guys' are way overthrowing the mental capacity of a 10 year old

[neon merlin]

And he said he can hack wifi and write viruses

[quasi hedge]

I agree

[polar spoke]

I mean, I was that 10 year old lol

I definitely got around all the school blocks through almost identical means

[quasi hedge]

I'm talking about 17 year old's and they aren't that smart

[oblique loom]

Well, you're not the 10 year old at my wchool

I know my territory

[polar spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi hedge]

I just host a VNC server and connect it to remotely to use my home network

[oblique loom]

Or just use a hotspot

[simple valve]

I feel the same way as chick3nman. You can keep banning hosting sites like Github but the biggest way you can stop them is stopping script execution all together.

[neon merlin]

I was the one leaving linux live cds in the schools computers

[oblique loom]

We do both

[polar spoke]

Yeah same

We just skipped the OS

And ran backtrack or some other live iso

[oblique loom]

You can't run scripts on these machines

You can't even save anything to them

[polar spoke]

You’d be surprised

[oblique loom]

I have that blocked too

[neon merlin]

Damn Small Linux ✊

[polar spoke]

I used to bypass nightly deep freeze all the time

[rapid merlin]

gm

o/ coffee

[oblique loom]

It's a Chromebook ffs

[neon merlin]

All kids in America get free chromebooks now right? Wild

[oblique loom]

Pretty much lol

[polar spoke]

lol I had those for a while too, they were awful

[quasi hedge]

I got a free windows 11 laptop with the latest i5 and 16 gigs of ram

[oblique loom]

They are awful

[polar spoke]

The laptop programs were always a joke

[oblique loom]

But good enough for the students to do work

[polar spoke]

We had so many iterations

[quasi hedge]

A few aren't

[neon merlin]

Whats it like living in a country where the government has money

[rapid merlin]

^

actually, I'd rather not be in the us rn LOL

[polar spoke]

I’ll let you know if I ever do that

Haha

[rapid merlin]

tbf I think it'd be better than the uk rn

[oblique loom]

We don't have money. We are the state, not federal gov.

[neon merlin]

Well the US can afford to give everyone a free laptop

UK government are defunding everything including schools

[polar spoke]

It’s not like you think

[oblique loom]

States pay for it

[quasi hedge]

It varies by district by district

[polar spoke]

Schools are paid for locally

[oblique loom]

Gov gave up on us years ago

[polar spoke]

Yeah, federal funding is hard to come by

It’s state or local funding only

Idk how it is in Nevada or similar, but in Texas the majority of our school funding is through local property taxes

[neon merlin]

Aren't taxes lower in USA compared to UK

[polar spoke]

Idk how the uk works for taxes like that

[grizzled rain]

Hi everyone, I updated the burp suite and now the burp proxy interface has changed, instead of showing requests one by one it is showing all at once and it's irritating me. How can I change the interface to an older one. Any help will be appreciated..

[half girder]

during my time in a city hall i've seen books and tablets after they were given back after the school year .. people dont value things when they didnt pay for themself. im not a friend of gov financed stuff, however there needs to be gov aid so everyone has access to.

[neon merlin]

Oh yeah you can go to r/techsupportgore and see how students treat their chromebooks

[rapid merlin]

UK is going to shit

[neon merlin]

Open it with PEstudio and it will be here

[grizzled rain]

Any help please

[rapid merlin]

don't think it's possible

[wild trench]

Oh ok let me try that. I’ve only opened it with procmon

[grizzled rain]

Ohk thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wanton ridge (current: #1554 - 2)

[molten sky]

@boreal scarab are you dead

[inland plume]

hey

im new here, how are you guys?

[molten sky]

still breathin

Could use a drink.....

ima get a drink

[inland plume]

nice

what does that role u have mean

0x9

[blazing granite]

maybe 😂

[blazing granite]

Hi, I'm new here, how are you? 😂

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/weee-gif-22113548

[blazing granite]

You always can use a drink 🙂 I'm drinking right now

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/its-alive-gene-wilder-young-frankenstein-frankensteins-gif-18871682

[molten sky]

you're who always sends the bluescreens right

[molten sky]

those correlate to ranks on the website itself https://tryhackme.com

hexadecimal

[blazing granite]

well-known for breaking things 😂

[molten sky]

@boreal scarab *replies* *up and dies*

[rapid merlin]

does anyone have/recommend a usb TRNG device they like to use to help add entropy to a kernel?

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-kitty-cat-cute-dance-happy-gif-21589584

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/image-perms-flex-gif-22350600

[dark frost]

uhm i don't use any , yet , but from what i found by googling is that divice TrueRNG Pro https://www.tindie.com/products/ubldit/truerngpro/

or that one look like it's used in many places https://ubld.it/truerng_v3#:~:text=There have been some

and eazy to use

[rapid merlin]

nice, thanks 😉

I was reading about a RDRAND CPU instruction vulnerability CVE-2020-0543

[dark frost]

very interesting wow , it's about physical pentest in 2020 intel cpu , wow for such a flaw to exist in the 1st place is incredible

" CVE-2020-0543, also known as the CrossTalk vulnerability, describes a security flaw in certain Intel processors where a "side-channel attack" could leak sensitive data between processor cores.

[rapid merlin]

yes, that's the one

[dark frost]

another core in the CPU can access the register that move cryptographic key and passwords , :/

damn

i think they when they implemented this , they forgot Security ,and integrity ,
it was intented to multithreading faster

[rapid merlin]

I can't afford to run 100 lava lamps 😄 https://www.fastcompany.com/90137157/the-hardest-working-office-design-in-america-encrypts-your-data-with-lava-lamps

[polar socket]

Hi guys, I have a question, which system is the best Windows 11 pro or kali linux? What do you think? I bought a new laptop and I am undecided which one I should prefer.

[rapid merlin]

I believe it really depends what you want to use the laptop for.

there is also https://www.kali.org/docs/usb/live-usb-install-with-windows/

[polar socket]

For ethical hacking and syber security

[polar socket]

Thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lime ledge (current: #812 - 5)

[dark frost]

if your PC comme with a preinstalled Windows , i would keep it , then you can install Kali on Dual-boot

OR you can directly install Kali linux on the WIndows machine 🙂

and you get youself a litle terminal Kali directly from your Windows machine ^^

you can install any other linux distributions

[earnest fog]

I love the quality of embroidered logo on the thm t-shirt ❤️ finally got my merch.

[dark frost]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-an-ad-thats-an-ad-jimmy-thats-an-ad-jimmy-south-park-south-park-gif-21350739

[earnest fog]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeong-gif-3654754744145897317

[dark frost]

send a picture of it 👀 i wanna see now the Ad is about to work

wich one you choose on the shop ?

[earnest fog]

not happening. maybe another day. I ate dinner wearing it and it's dirty af 😅

[earnest fog]

shortsleeve unisex, with the tiny embroidery

[dark frost]

it should have been the best dinner of all time X)

no use the quality T-shirt as a Nappkin

[stoic quarry]

Ello lads

Oh I should use my hat voucher shouldn't I?

[earnest fog]

munchies. I was on vacation and my friends picked it up for me. had to go to bar where my friend works to pick it up..

[earnest fog]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-curse-gif-6401971144449120087

[dark frost]

understandble

[stoic quarry]

Aye aye

[crisp hill]

guys i have a question posted at site bug, if any one of you are free and could help me out or have a look at it, it would be great. sorry if its out of line, i'm new here.

[stoic quarry]

Message site support probs

Randos on discord ain't gonna be able to fix it

[earnest fog]

#site-bugs ?

[crisp hill]

yes

[dark frost]

you have mastercard ?

[crisp hill]

#site-support ?

[stoic quarry]

Yeah, or contact page on the site

[crisp hill]

nope

[crisp hill]

alright i'll try that

[dark frost]

some banks don't allow foreign transactions ;/ , or your bank had a probleme or maintenance at the time of transaction

[stoic quarry]

Oh it's related to that, yeah just contact them on the site lol

[dark frost]

usualy Mastercard/ Visa are permitted for online transactions

[crisp hill]

also does thm allow debit cards? i dont have an option to choose at the screen it just tells me enter the card details

i used debit card

and yes international transc are enabled on my card

[dark frost]

if the probleme persist you could sign a revolut account to get a virtual debit card

i don't know if they have it in india though

[crisp hill]

i'll look into it

[manic nest]

hey ,, why i dont have permission to send message in ticket_event channel, is anyone know how to solve it

[sick lance]

It's locked.

[stoic quarry]

It's closed lol

[rapid merlin]

Morning

[exotic vector]

morning

[rapid merlin]

[stoic quarry]

Morning

[rapid merlin]

You know what I realised

I waited ages for an actual bed but I still sleep on it like I used to

[stoic quarry]

It's the morning?

[rapid merlin]

I still sleep across the width of the bed 😆

[dark frost]

hard to change habits

i am used to not move and be on the edge of the bed all the time , as i was used to sleep with my dogs when i was younger

even now , that i have a 2 persons size bed X)

[exotic vector]

I showed my partner this comment and said "I think I found your long lost sister xD" my partner would also sleep across the width of the bed lol

[rapid merlin]

So yeah I sleep at the end of a bed

I take up a quarter of my bed

I still sleep better on a sofa

[rapid merlin]

That third picture is what my daughter does all the time if she gets into my bed.

Kicks me in the face

[exotic vector]

oh no xD

[sick lance]

For some people yeah, the wonder of timezones. 😄

[exotic vector]

im still running off of the compliment I got last night xD

[rapid merlin]

Yooo you know that guy that said my top was sick. I went into the shop last night and self check out wasn’t working and he scanned all my shopping for me

Well it was kinda on and off. Deciding when to work 😆

[exotic vector]

awwww

[rapid merlin]

I know, how sweet

[exotic vector]

last night I was telling uncle esqy that yesterday I basically taught myself sql to finish off setting up my home labs, and he said he hopes I wrote it all down. And then he said "you're 100% a hacker you have the right mindset and the actions to boot" I've been running off of that ever since xD

[rapid merlin]

Awh uncle is so sweet too

[dark frost]

every hacker has a notebook , those who say they all got in the head are lier or cybord mimic humans

[rapid merlin]

I’ve had a couple people say to me “you should have learnt that already” what do I look like a bot ?! 🤣 I can’t remember everything.

[vagrant yacht]

What does this notebook generally consist of

[exotic vector]

I write notes on what I learn, and if im doing something and im missing something from my notes I'll do some searching so solve the problem im on.

[molten sky]

just curious --- you building a monolithic db or one for each svc?

[dark frost]

Tools list for what project you working on , a Wordlist with explanations or symplifications , Drawing or Sketch , mathematics , phonenumbers , Ip Adresses , Port Numbers for Common stuff

[exotic vector]

atm its a really basic database that sits on 1 of my target vms

[molten sky]

oh you're doing THAT way

I haven't spun up a non-dockerized db outside of heavy cloud use in years

i should poke around at it

[polar spoke]

Taking notes is important, but some of us are just too lazy lol

[slow cloud]

daaamn tryhackme's 6th birthday is this month

[molten sky]

now that i think about it i haven't spun up a proper MySQL db in quite a few years either, typically postgres or whatever else

[dark frost]

i wanted to build my website on a vms , what db would you sugest ? , i know mysql ,mangodb , but i wonder if they are better db

[exotic vector]

its because im poor lol so decided to set up a homelab type thing on my main computer with vms.

When I can I'll be able to do a proper homelab with an isolated network etc but for now im just working with what I have.

[slow cloud]

ive always used mysql and worked like a charm but there might be better options available

[sick lance]

Prizes may be in offer 👀

[molten sky]

i practically have an entire lab running on my normal host as well, that's way more than enough

[slow cloud]

" To celebrate, we have some exciting giveaways and releases coming in the next couple of weeks, so stay tuned! "👀

[molten sky]

docker will afford more "stretch" to the resources you have but VMs will be more separate from the host making networking more obvious and less annoying (depending...ofc) (and other benefits)

[dark frost]

2024 Advent 👀

[sick lance]

Then AoC announcement too.

THM is really spoiling all of you...

[slow cloud]

tbh i think the advent is pretty much confirmed

[exotic vector]

I haven't gotten into docker yet

[polar spoke]

Lucky you

[molten sky]

you were supposed to sneak my name into the dc33 drawing

[dark frost]

docker is very eazy to use 😄

[slow cloud]

i love portainer

for docker

[molten sky]

portainer always felt unnecessary to me

[slow cloud]

at the time i started using docker i wasnt too comfortable with linux and stuff so a gui was very nice

[molten sky]

highly recommend when you get the chance --- one of the most useful things I use on the regular

[exotic vector]

I'm learning from thm and a book so the homelab set up on my host is set up the way I set it up so I can follow along with the book

[slow cloud]

is the book about setting up a homelab?

[sick lance]

I don't know your name to sneak it in, well I do, but you don't know that....

[molten sky]

that's pretty much the division i feel like, people who are more than comfortable on the command line vs wanting an extra hand ---- i'd guess that portainer is awesome for that scenario --- I wouldn't know though cause I was never a big user