general

[frail sage]

I want to be the fluff man so bad

[upper obsidian]

oh

thank you

!docs verify

it doesnt work

[frail sage]

!docs verify

[silver sky]

nevermind

[upper obsidian]

its ok its just discord server

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Sep 25, 2024, 3:08 PM

[upper obsidian]

I want to learn how to hack you know

[wooden totem]

that skelington be tweakin out

[silver sky]

That's the one

[upper obsidian]

@silver sky can you tell me your latest thing you learned

[boreal scarab]

To sleep

[silver sky]

I can deadlift half a car

[twin cipher]

hardest achievement frfr

[upper obsidian]

whats the last thing fluff clan has learned?

[wooden totem]

that their embed is too large

[frail sage]

i think its the clan were they know how to hack ROP

[upper obsidian]

yeah well... I meant cybersecurity wise

what about you @wooden totem ? whats the last thing you learned in cybersecurity?

anything cool?

[upper obsidian]

mmm rop

heard something about rop chains but im too noob

im confused @frail sage

[frail sage]

i mean have you tried finding gadgets

[upper obsidian]

why no one talk about cybersecurity in cybersecurity server

[frail sage]

most of the time a ret rsp instruction would be very usefull if the stack is not executable

[twin cipher]

i have a cool hoodie. best gadget frfr

[frail sage]

does it say fluff ?

[upper obsidian]

too much for me heathers

im noob

my only gadget is a fidget spinner

[twin cipher]

it says cheese

much cooler

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/807135766056271882.gif?quality=lossless&size=48

[frail sage]

i think once we join fluff clan they'll give us free modules thus we'd learn reall hack

[upper obsidian]

yoooooooo

cant wait to join fluff clan

[wooden totem]

I don't think the normies would consider it cool, but some cryptology methods for near impossible brute forcing

[twin cipher]

das cool

[upper obsidian]

ohhh cool cool

[sand trench]

if aes256 has a backdoor it is a bloody well hidden one

[upper obsidian]

how come would it be nearly impossible?

[frail sage]

BruteForce is veery cool

especially over network

[upper obsidian]

very cool indeed

[frail sage]

no one knows you're there

[wooden totem]

it would take too long

[upper obsidian]

how can aes256 have backdoor?

[upper obsidian]

isn't that based on key strength ?

[sand trench]

it can't as far as shadow knows

[frail sage]

not if im very fast at typing

[frail sage]

@upper obsidian she got cheese on her name, how do we get that too

i'd like mine to be bread

[gritty fern]

Just a nickname

[wooden totem]

its more of an automatic program trying to find the system in which its encoded, if it detects patterns its over

[sand trench]

literally copied the emoji unicode from a unicode website and just inserted it in the nickname

[sullen hearth]

Hoi

[upper obsidian]

sorry im still very new I dont understand

[upper obsidian]

hiiiiii any tips to learn how to hack

[sullen hearth]

Practice in a save enviroment, take notes, sleep, repeat.

[sick lance]

Left a few weeks ago

[upper obsidian]

yeah but more technical tips?

[sick lance]

May emonrsh?

[upper obsidian]

like I know how DNS works, but how do I hack the dns server

[frail sage]

unicode ??

there's a lot to learn from this hack server

[wooden totem]

most times a shorter message will be harder to decipher and a longer one easier due to patterns, idk how to explain

[gritty fern]

Thats illegal without permission

[sand trench]

standard for transmitting text and symbols on computers

[frail sage]

we got lied to THM doesnt suck @upper obsidian

[upper obsidian]

do you know if I have permission?

[upper obsidian]

nono

I believe

[gritty fern]

You dont unless you ask

[upper obsidian]

what?

[gritty fern]

And they say yes

[upper obsidian]

ok well I do have permission

can you tell me how to hack it now

[gritty fern]

No you dont

[upper obsidian]

wdym I dont

[frail sage]

how do you know he dont ?

[upper obsidian]

is this guy delusional

[frail sage]

this guy own 8.8.8.8

[upper obsidian]

XDDD

[frail sage]

pull out your Google cloud certificate

[upper obsidian]

its literally my own dns server

how do I not have permission to hack it

[sullen hearth]

If its not thm related you shouldn't ask those things.

[gritty fern]

Proof?

Because i know you dont

[frail sage]

where's that written ?

!rules

[gritty fern]

#rules believe it or not

[frail sage]

i say he does

[upper obsidian]

how do I send proof

I cant send picutre here

[upper obsidian]

wait so

[sullen hearth]

No illegal stuff.

[upper obsidian]

its my own fucking server

on my own DC

[frail sage]

not illegal if he own it

[upper obsidian]

whats the problem with you guys

[frail sage]

😡 idk why no one believe him

[upper obsidian]

ok wait maybe

its hard to spin up win server and install dns

[frail sage]

ask ludde maybe he knows

[upper obsidian]

thats why they think I cant do it

and thus, its not my own

[wooden totem]

Super epic explanation incoming

[frail sage]

i never doubted you for a second

[upper obsidian]

thank you heathers

[upper obsidian]

ludde is kinda rude

[sullen hearth]

Bc everyone can say "oh sure for my own stuff" and then use the knowledge for suspicious things.

[gritty fern]

I feel like this is the same guy with two accounts

[upper obsidian]

judging others by the way they type

[loud marlin]

don't hack nothing if you do not own

[upper obsidian]

bro

I literally just said

[frail sage]

i think that gif was intended to you

[upper obsidian]

its my own fucking DNS server

and im asking how to hack it

so I can replicate that with clients

when I get a job

for learning purposes

[gritty fern]

We wont teach you this, if you want to learn stuff go to tryhackme.com

[upper obsidian]

you* wont teach me this

what do you know anyways

[gritty fern]

We*

[upper obsidian]

probably dont know how to hack dns

kek

[sullen hearth]

No i dont think so. But there are no capacities to check everyones enviroment so its out of question.

[frail sage]

if you dont know how to hack DNS server just say it, dont west our time

[upper obsidian]

ok so question

[gritty fern]

lmfao 🤣

[frail sage]

exactly what i thought

[upper obsidian]

how does one get helped here?

[frail sage]

idk kida rude

[upper obsidian]

if its not related to THM env you cant answer the question?

[gritty fern]

You will not receive help to hack the DNS server

From anyone here

[rapid merlin]

What DNS server? 👀

[frail sage]

but its called "general" we should be able to talk about hack, cutties and bread all we want

[upper obsidian]

ikr

[gritty fern]

I would love to talk about bread instead

[upper obsidian]

but hey maybe THM enforces a policy where they cant help with none THM related stuff

[frail sage]

Just admmit you cannot hack DNS. server

[upper obsidian]

bread?

this guy doesnt know

[gritty fern]

No i cant because thats absurd

[sullen hearth]

Thm rooms or you are trustworthy community member. You not even veriefied.

[upper obsidian]

oh

[frail sage]

we just did

!verify

[upper obsidian]

so I need to be verified to getr help

yeah no wonder no1 likes thm

does THM have certs?

[gritty fern]

Ok buddy 😂

[upper obsidian]

are you offended?

[gritty fern]

If you pay yes

[wooden totem]

Is there actually 1 person on both accounts

[silver sky]

I think so

[sullen hearth]

Im not a Mod. So i cant decide

[gritty fern]

Thats my thought

[upper obsidian]

what other accounts

[vagrant hollow]

average neckbeard conversation from both sides

[gritty fern]

They never type at the same time

[rapid merlin]

Tbh that's not true

[upper obsidian]

what other account???

heathers??

[frail sage]

that would be too much work

you need to type very fast

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-same-person-gif-22982328

[frail sage]

on both accounts

[upper obsidian]

@frail sage they think we are on same account

[frail sage]

and need two computers

[frail sage]

how come ?

[upper obsidian]

some detectives out here

[gritty fern]

Yeah they definitely are

[sullen hearth]

Like i said. Help is not the problem. Your intentions are questionable.

[upper obsidian]

LOL

we are not

[gritty fern]

How so?

Fair

[frail sage]

you know what i think

[upper obsidian]

what makes you think we are the same account

can you tell me this?

[silver sky]

I mean, there literally are in here

[frail sage]

you know whati i think ?

i think we're the most intelligence individual here

[upper obsidian]

yeah agreed

[vagrant hollow]

intelligent?

[gritty fern]

“most intelligence”

[silver sky]

You mean intelligent

[high mulch]

ong ngl, ohio gyatt

[silver sky]

skibidi toilet

[frail sage]

what did this guy just say

[sullen hearth]

Then you can tell your brain buddy the dns thing 👍

[tropic musk]

gyatt?

[frail sage]

is this some hack stuff

[high mulch]

gyatt.js

[tropic musk]

fanum tax?

[upper obsidian]

hey @gritty fern what makes you think me and heathers are the same account

[gritty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-sad-emoji-getting-disintegrated-into-dust-denigrating-denigrating-face-emoji-meme-lol-gif-27508363

[frail sage]

hey @riv what makes you think me and heathers are the same account

[oak river]

SKIBIDI found my debit card info and it got blocked

[high mulch]

skibiddy.js

[gritty fern]

The way you talk to each other

[silver sky]

I'm down with the kids right?

[oak river]

Now I have to wait 5 days for a new card

[upper obsidian]

what??

im sorry but that makes literally 0 sense

[tropic musk]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-shelby-sigma-sim-sigma-mafia-gif-1337652146628914473

[frail sage]

hey @gritty fern what makes you think me and Kyand are the same account

oh lag

[upper obsidian]

we are just both learning stuff together

[rapid merlin]

Sigma lone wolf

[silver sky]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/tDcQBtUX78JWoas9oM/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b1l33tx562vi87t4t7z0hz18las2s6x25dxh1br3z4&ep=v1_gifs_gifId&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[tropic musk]

you shouldn't have said that

https://tenor.com/view/you-sink-into-my-clothes-wolf-edit-alpha-wolf-edit-wolf-edit-meme-tiktok-wolf-edit-gif-11996719976311640495

[gritty fern]

Lmao

[rapid merlin]

Hacking the DNS server together? 👀

[upper obsidian]

well we'd love to

if only some1 was to help us

[sullen hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-funny-aerosmith-siamese-twins-gif-21584919

[oak river]

Now we are getting haxed by 0day

[gritty fern]

They are called the super ultra hackors

[oak river]

For laughing

[upper obsidian]

oh no we are just noobs

but you must be the ultra hackers

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hack-the-planet-gif-15624885

[upper obsidian]

based on how you talk

[high mulch]

I programmed a button on html that allows me to hack you

[frail sage]

their names dont have letters

can you hack me and teach me how you did it ?

[gritty fern]

Yeah thats what they call me

[rapid merlin]

Let me guess, with a boiler plate?

[frail sage]

Please stop troll i just want to learn

[tropic musk]

ethical hacking

[frail sage]

me and Kyand actually just want to learn

[high mulch]

no
html.index.js

[upper obsidian]

okok if they are worried about permissions with hacking

[silver sky]

Then stop talking about DNS and go and learn. #start-here

[sullen hearth]

Start with thm and you will.

[upper obsidian]

@frail sage we can maybe ask questions that are more general

such as assembly! learning assembly cant be TOS right?

[frail sage]

Hmmm good point

[upper obsidian]

so friends, when looking at assembly we see xor eax eax a lot... what does it do?

[gritty fern]

Google “how to learn assembly”

[frail sage]

yes yes how do i loop in assembly ?

[silver sky]

I'd recommend a higher level language

[upper obsidian]

stop recommending

im just asking what xor eax eax does

[gritty fern]

google

[silver sky]

Google it

[frail sage]

dont recommend please we just asking : (

[upper obsidian]

I know xor eax eax is 0

im asking why is it used everywhere

[gritty fern]

Google

[upper obsidian]

oh wow

[frail sage]

i think its 00000000 not 0

[upper obsidian]

such a beautiful server

[rapid merlin]

Just as you <3

[upper obsidian]

❤️

thank you

[frail sage]

Woow this guy is very awsome

[rapid merlin]

You're welcome

[upper obsidian]

he is!

[frail sage]

i think he can join our Hack clan

[rapid merlin]

Awww thank you, you too

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @frail sage (current: #2234 - 1)

[frail sage]

i hope you all learn from. Detitio

[upper obsidian]

I just dont understand why I get told to google something on a valid question

that isnt against TOS

[frail sage]

i just got a 1 REP yaay

[rapid merlin]

WOOOO

[upper obsidian]

why dont you just tell me to "google" how to hack DNS then

[gritty fern]

Because google is a great resource for simple questions like that

[upper obsidian]

your behavor is changing

[silver sky]

Because 99% of cyber sec is research

[upper obsidian]

kinda sus

[frail sage]

askin is research too

[upper obsidian]

you dont think community should help eachother?

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[upper obsidian]

have you never asked a question and gotten an answer?

[silver sky]

Oh they should, but you should also do your research first.

[gritty fern]

You need to be able to do your own research

[upper obsidian]

is that how you mentor new people in the field?

[frail sage]

i thought this community was nice

[frail sage]

i'm researching by asking

[rapid merlin]

Nope, can you help me get out of the matrix? :(

[granite quest]

hi, can you give me the vba code of the ransomware?

[upper obsidian]

sorry, google it.

[frail sage]

what does pop rsp does ?

[upper obsidian]

it does hip hop 😎

[frail sage]

Uuuh buddy thats not related to THM

pls read id:guide

[upper obsidian]

but hey heathers I googled the xor eax eax

[tropic musk]

pop is to pop stuff and rsp for respawning

[upper obsidian]

its optimization for registers

usually faster than mov eax 0

[frail sage]

i think thats better that mov eax 0,

[rapid merlin]

The rules say you to ping a mod, so take your chance!

[upper obsidian]

yesyes

im now scared to ask more questions tho

whats the point of asking questions then?

wait... whats the point of even talking in thm?

[frail sage]

i feel unwelcommed here

[upper obsidian]

if the answer is google it

yeah... must suck

[high mulch]

It's like asking a question, what does a cpu do? in here. When you can CLEARLY google it.

[gritty fern]

@sick lance

[upper obsidian]

technically you can google everything

[frail sage]

I was told that to be a good hacker you should learn how to ask a lot of questions yet no one answers

[rapid merlin]

Who told you that? :O

[oak river]

Keep asking until they answer

[high mulch]

to be a good hacker you have to problem solve mostly.

[gritty fern]

You should also learn how to research via the web mostly

[frail sage]

i solve by asking

[oak river]

They will eventually answer verbally or phisically if they want to do something about you and your questions

[high mulch]

it applies in technically all areas of IT, cybersec, software dev too.

[frail sage]

thats why im using discord on google chrome

[rapid merlin]

phisically?

[sullen hearth]

The community will treat you like you will treat us/them.
We said why its not cool ask for advice, nobody knows where you'll use it. You have also do your research like everyone else here. The best way is to practice it in the mentioned save enviroment with thm for example and if you stuck, im sure u will get help here.

[frail sage]

thank you i learned that you should never give up

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @oak river (current: #491 - 10)

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[oak river]

XD

[gritty fern]

mc noo

😭

[oak river]

What

[upper obsidian]

can you give me an example of question that would be answered here

[sick lance]

What do you want it for?

[frail sage]

i use it on my DNS server, my enviroment windows 11, and i'am stuck on how to hack my AD Dns

ony vmware pro

[upper obsidian]

they dont believe us

[timber galleon]

AHAHAH thats a golden response

[gritty fern]

Im trying to get this man to use the web for research

[sick lance]

Can you please leave this sort of stuff to mods.

[high mulch]

stop typing fast in your two accounts and maybe just google.

[oak river]

Google dorking?

AI?

[upper obsidian]

we are not 2 accounts

[oak river]

Microsoft Co-Pilot? Google Gemini?

[rapid merlin]

Aren't you? 😂

[frail sage]

isnt askin for ransomware is bad ?

[gritty fern]

Yes you are lol

[upper obsidian]

man

[wooden totem]

I still don't like using that nickname for it

[silver sky]

Co-Pilot is goated

[high mulch]

google hacking, then.

[oak river]

I don't use it a lot, but I agree, it is useful

[sick lance]

Depends, however it still needs to be left to mods to enforce server rules.

[granite quest]

I go to the course and they gave it as homework. I have to solve it tomorrow

[oak river]

So what do you refer to it as?

[gritty fern]

Its always the schoolwork excuse lmfao

[upper obsidian]

unfortunately you are only in the thm server

otherwise you'd know

but its ok you can stay here

[frail sage]

i'am asking legit question but not getting no answer someone want code for ransomware and thats ok

[silver sky]

I use it to write email for me tbf

[wooden totem]

I usually just say advanced googling, perchance even google hacking

[sick lance]

Then you can ask your school.

[gritty fern]

AI is great for emails

[oak river]

Bruh

[upper obsidian]

its ok its ok

[oak river]

Will the men in black come for me if I actually start reading such articles and documents

[silver sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoE817jzFB8

[upper obsidian]

I guess asking what does xor eax eax do is too much

[oak river]

I used to cheat an exam

[sick lance]

If you think you're not supposed to be reading stuff, don't post it in here.

[gritty fern]

🔥

[oak river]

I just found a google dorking cheatsheet

And wondered about that particular search

[wooden totem]

The worst that can happen is getting marked as suspicious :clueless:

[silver sky]

CJ ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS UPDATE THE DAMN BIOS

[frail sage]

they know what mov rdx, 1 does

that was a bit easy for em

[upper obsidian]

intellectual people

helping the field on their own

[frail sage]

once again we're proven to the most intelligence individuals here

[upper obsidian]

so happy new people join here and learn the right way

[sick lance]

Nice save.

[frail sage]

what save ?

i only forgot the s

[sick lance]

It clears the eax register to 0.

[upper obsidian]

yeah thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2810)

[high mulch]

why insisting on asking that here when I just pulled a google search and found an answer.

[frail sage]

i dont think its clears

[upper obsidian]

but why do they do that instead of just using the mov instruction

[sick lance]

It's ok to be wrong.

[upper obsidian]

that was my question, maybe I didnt forumlate correctly

[gritty fern]

ok guys i need lunch

c ya’ll

[frail sage]

i think it's xor two byte sequences by comparing their bytes

[high mulch]

take care mate, enjoy it.

[sick lance]

When you XOR eax, it's 0.

[upper obsidian]

yes but

[sick lance]

0 XOR 0 = 0
1 XOR 1 = 0

[upper obsidian]

why do we XOR instead of just moving 0 into the register

we can simply do mov eax 0 instead of xor eax eax

[frail sage]

yeah i dont think you can clear in assembly

nothing is lost

[sick lance]

Setting it to 0...

[frail sage]

what about NULL XOR NULL

[upper obsidian]

ok so I already got the answer but at least you tried to help

[frail sage]

does 0 mean nothing

[upper obsidian]

which is respectable unlike the others

afaik it's for optimization purposes

[sick lance]

mov eax, 0

Or you can sub it.

and it.

Many ways to set it to 0.

[upper obsidian]

it does the same, it's just that its more optimal for registers to xor eax eax

[sick lance]

Still one of the most common.

[wooden totem]

Xor bad, or + and good

[frail sage]

because its not 0 its 00000000

[upper obsidian]

yeah that idk

[sick lance]

@granite quest

Please don't DM me, or send a freind request.

You keep forgetting the comma, and it's annoying me.

[upper obsidian]

but my question was WHY is it the most common

[wooden totem]

No wait, it's the opposite

[sick lance]

xor eax, eax

[upper obsidian]

Idk why you are still explaining what it does 😦

[sick lance]

Because it's only 2 bytes long.

And much faster to execute.

[frail sage]

we already understand the answer now

[upper obsidian]

there we go

thank you

for actually answering a question

[frail sage]

thank you soo much

i think you're a good mod

[upper obsidian]

how long did it take @frail sage

[frail sage]

48mins tbh

[upper obsidian]

wowow

[frail sage]

the others just didnt know the answer

[upper obsidian]

yeah

bad people honestly

judging us on how we type

[sick lance]

Assembly isn't too common, and I won't hold it against them.

[frail sage]

what does \x90 mean

[sick lance]

you guys doing homework?

[upper obsidian]

and then no answering because they think we are 14 years olds that want to hack dns servers which we dont have permissions over

[upper obsidian]

could consider it as homework

[frail sage]

do you want to see my golden ratio assembly calculator ?

[rapid merlin]

Tbh, true

[sick lance]

Then you should ask who's teaching you if you're stuck, it's their job.

[sick lance]

Hexidecimal.

[frail sage]

i think Kyand is self thought he's very smart for school

[upper obsidian]

well homework doesnt necessarily have to be related to school or to a teacher

[gritty fern]

such as?

[frail sage]

Can i add you i think i'd learn alot from you

[nimble jolt]

first i'd like to learn how to tie my own shoe laces then i'd like to learn assembly immediately after that

[upper obsidian]

hey @gritty fern can you explain why the mod of thm actually helped us and you told us to just google it?

[rapid merlin]

Mhm

[sick lance]

Just get velcro shoes, they're faster.

[upper obsidian]

just curious to see how you think

no offense ofc

hopefully none is taken too

[sick lance]

Now that is just being rude.

[gritty fern]

Oh nice nice

[upper obsidian]

hey I said no offense

[nimble jolt]

hmm...

[sick lance]

That does not make it ok.

[upper obsidian]

ok well

sorry

can I still get an answer tho

[sick lance]

They don't have to answer you, and I wouldn't blame them if they didn't.

[novel geyser]

hmm

[frail sage]

maybe if you asked nicelly and added a heart next to your question

[upper obsidian]

unlucky

omg its fucking golam

[frail sage]

Yooo i've seen this guy somwhere before

[novel geyser]

its just golam 😄

[upper obsidian]

maybe

[novel geyser]

the world is a small place

[upper obsidian]

I just appreicate @sick lance for actually trying to help

[nimble jolt]

i'm not quite sure what but something's failing a vibe check here rn

[rapid merlin]

Golam71

Wooo

[upper obsidian]

every1 else was quite literally useless and mean

[silver sky]

[upper obsidian]

ok well not every1

but mostly every1

[sick lance]

They're following server rules.

[rapid merlin]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @upper obsidian (current: #2234 - 1)

[novel geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752681743441461318/1098494682234896485/ezgif.com-gif-maker_14.gif

[nimble jolt]

comfy

[silver sky]

Now now children, lets gather around the fire and make friends

[upper obsidian]

yeahh well I just asked what does xor eax eax do and I was told to google it

I see that as a "fuck off" reply

[nimble jolt]

ii wouldn't dwell on it too much

[frail sage]

Well guys i think i'll go now thank you so much @sick lance for answering questions and not telling us to just google it, i have to go and feed my geese

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2811)

[sullen hearth]

Welcome to the desert 😂🤝

[upper obsidian]

same here, thank you @sick lance

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @frail sage (current: #1482 - 2)

[frail sage]

sir im not children

[nimble jolt]

honk

[gritty fern]

brd is goose confirmed??

[high mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-google-it-gill-engvid-you-can-search-for-it-online-you-can-browse-for-it-on-the-web-gif-10409511348401384306

[novel geyser]

you have geese?

[silver sky]

I'm not a sir. I'm not an aristocrat

[nimble jolt]

i'm not goose but i am an ally to geese

honk the planet

[silver sky]

[gritty fern]

@frail sage are any of your geese silly 😂

[rugged grove]

i’m one of @frail sage silly geese

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-honk-inhale-inhales-untitled-gif-16237480

[gritty fern]

The legends were true!

[rapid merlin]

Yall know this bikes? What ya think

[silver sky]

How many watts?

[rapid merlin]

No idea

[rugged grove]

my ebike just broke ):

[gritty fern]

That one guy made a super capacitor bike

[rapid merlin]

The problem is, everyone has them here

[nimble jolt]

that's the spirit

[sullen hearth]

Buy it!!! Its cool af! And then sell it to me 🤣✌️

[high mulch]

as a tip, stranger from the interweb.

Add some context, you can definitely hit a wall when googling certain stuff, or maybe you aren't looking well enough, which can very much happen here and there.

Simply add, "hey, I've been googling this, but I quite don't understand x or y" or "I tried googling this, but I can't find a good explaination or detailed explaination of x or y"

[rapid merlin]

Oh, here it's a specific type of people that rides them

[silver sky]

I literally ride and build ebike so if you can link me I'll tell ya if it's good

[sullen hearth]

Specific? By what?

[rapid merlin]

Behavior

[rugged grove]

guys how do i hack can someone help me

[upper obsidian]

I agree yes

[sick lance]

Are you going to start trolling?

[upper obsidian]

but also the guy recieving the question should state that too

[sullen hearth]

Good
...behavior?

[upper obsidian]

instead of just telling me to fuck off by telling me to google it

[gritty fern]

#start-here if you actually want to learn stuff

[upper obsidian]

but I do get what you mean

• I was constnatly accued of sharing accounts with @frail sage idk what that was for

[sullen hearth]

I was lookin for a scooter. It has to be really ugly 😂

[rugged grove]

not on a level that will cause actual trouble (:

[silver sky]

This is my road legal bike.

[sick lance]

That doesn't make it ok?

[rugged grove]

i’m just kidding. being a dork lol

[sick lance]

If anything, being low skills and knowledge is worse.

[high mulch]

well, you could've easily google it with the zero context you were giving.

as I said before, "what does a cpu do, guys please help"...

I'd pretty much say, google it, mate and GL

[gritty fern]

Ive never heard of a road illegal bike

[shadow tiger]

Just wait, they'll require a helmet soon enough

[silver sky]

E-Bikes that are too powerful here aren't legal to be used on public roads. people do it tho

[upper obsidian]

what does a cpu do is a very broad question, my question was extremely specific

2 different questions

[jolly forge]

You seem to be a very level minded individual. Props to you.

[gritty fern]

Ah i see

[high mulch]

mate, w.e but goodluck then

[sullen hearth]

Our company want to make a contract so we can rent/buy them 😍

[gritty fern]

Scrubz is by far the best mod ive ever met

[silver sky]

Don't buy this one, it's shit

[upper obsidian]

but do you understand what I mean?

[silver sky]

[sullen hearth]

Wait...

[polar wraith]

hello world

[nimble jolt]

hi

[silver sky]

It's spent more time in the workshop than on the road at this point

[rapid merlin]

True, and an age requirement. Noone will ride them after

[nimble jolt]

if my legs were wheels would i count as a bicycle

[gritty fern]

yes

You have two

I think

[nimble jolt]

are you sure i wouldn't be more of a segway

[silver sky]

You must be 14+ to ride one in the UK

[sullen hearth]

Im aiming for this kind of bike. This is a scott

[shadow tiger]

Too bad those bicyles have a bad rep

They look kinda cool

[rapid merlin]

True, but the reputation is indeed what makes them bad

[shadow tiger]

yea i agree

[frail sage]

my geese just bite me very hard 😦

[nimble jolt]

such is honk

[sick lance]

Well, this is a different tone I'm receiving from people compared to 3 hours ago

[gritty fern]

Did that guy stop making alts?

[sick lance]

I hope so.

[gritty fern]

Nice

[silver sky]

Sexy

[upper obsidian]

what happened 3 hours ago?

[sick lance]

Just a troublemaker.

[upper obsidian]

ahh

[gritty fern]

Scrubz im curious, do you get paid to moderate the server?

[sullen hearth]

I have to ride it. Looks not bad but maybe its a disguise for "shizzl" 💩

[sick lance]

No, it's entirely voluntary.

[gritty fern]

Oh thats cool!

[rapid merlin]

Just some deathwishes, nothing strange...

[silver sky]

Normal day at work for me

[frail sage]

@upper obsidian he voluntary answers questions rather than just bruch you off saying google it, what a great fella

[sick lance]

Yeah, I didn't want to bring that part up 😅

[upper obsidian]

he is trully great

honestly thats the kind of ppl we need in the community

[sick lance]

https://tenor.com/view/its-gonna-be-so-grate-pun-its-gonna-be-great-punny-joke-gif-14275063

[upper obsidian]

and im not being sarcastic

[soft vortex]

thm@THMJMP1 C:\Users\thm\Documents\tz>tftp -i 10.200.26.101 GET "/Tmp/x64*.bcd" conf.bcd Connect request failed why not working?

[high mulch]

maybe just go and google your stuff, instead of complaining here (?)

[frail sage]

Please all tame notes

[frail sage]

this is exactly my point

the thm mod happilly answered quetions he's very skilled

and you not

[sick lance]

#breaching-ad please.

[upper obsidian]

yeah

[sick lance]

What you're doing right now is disturbing the peace, the matter is over and it's in the past, let's draw a line and leave it there.

[nimble jolt]

I'm only disturbing the peas pushes them around on the plate with a fork

[frail sage]

sorry

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfying-gifs-oddly-satisfying-drawing-how-to-draw-drawbook-gif-22194544

[frail sage]

i will not

[frail sage]

i can make circles and straight lines using nothing

can you believe it

[upper obsidian]

ok well, another question if yall dont mind

[nimble jolt]

but can you make a straight circle?

[upper obsidian]

how are inline syscalls detected by defensive solutions?

[frail sage]

Wooow i would love to know

[gritty fern]

This is something you should google

[tall elbow]

now lets wait to just google it answer 🤓

[rapid merlin]

Tbh I can't

[upper obsidian]

see?

[frail sage]

i think you ask very good questions they should be pinned to chat

[tall elbow]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @gritty fern (current: #185 - 37)

[upper obsidian]

the matter is obviously not overyet

[sick lance]

Then if it continues I'll go from nice helpful mod, to "Oh no, he's muting people again" mod.

[upper obsidian]

ah

[frail sage]

dont mute for asking questions

[sick lance]

How do you think they can be detected?

[nimble jolt]

there's a reason for suggesting that, though. The server has a room for advanced questions (which you need to be verified to use), to keep dicussion of advanced security topics out of the scope of the freely available rooms.

[upper obsidian]

I dont know, im actually curious and would have a discussion

[frail sage]

idk, i just downloaded a firewall and trying to know why my sql injection not working

[high mulch]

oh no, I just googled it, which I also received links to best techniques implementations and common implementations

[upper obsidian]

did google just tell you

that hooking will find a syscall

???

[silver sky]

A firewall won't prevent a SQL Injection

[wooden totem]

What browser is that

[upper obsidian]

how will you hook a syscall?

[frail sage]

a firewall will prevent sql injection if configured

[upper obsidian]

thats what google answered, I have another question then

[sullen hearth]

IDS...

[tall elbow]

bring it on

[nimble jolt]

yeah the vibe check is still failing

[upper obsidian]

well yeah, how do you hook a inline syscall

[frail sage]

Its ludde again

Hi ludde

[sick lance]

Then if it continues I'll go from nice helpful mod, to "Oh no, he's muting people again" mod.

This is not limited to new members.

[high mulch]

zen browser with brave search engine.

[upper obsidian]

or well, how do defensive solutions hook inline syscalls

[silver sky]

A Web Application Firewall would based on heuristics. But a general firewall will not (unless you block SQL outside your network)

[chilly veldt]

another day, another spaghetti carbonara

[frail sage]

But dont you configure a WAF in a firewall

[jolly forge]

@upper obsidian you need to get access to advanced channels if you want to ask the big questions 😄

you are too noob

[upper obsidian]

but nono

they told me

just google it, and showed a screenshot

[silver sky]

WAF is a firewall.

[chilly veldt]

understandable

[frail sage]

its called security profiles @upper obsidian told me

[upper obsidian]

and it clearly says it hooks the syscall

so im curious, how does it hook the syscall

[tall elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-popcorn-eric-cartman-south-park-s6e2-jared-has-aides-gif-22098251

[sullen hearth]

Black-/Whitelisting fe

[upper obsidian]

blacklisting syscalls?

what the fuck

[silver sky]

It depends, there's a few techniques depending on what you want to do.

[frail sage]

if you blacklisted syscalls would set hell on loose no ?

[upper obsidian]

well tell me 1 of them

[sullen hearth]

Yea

[sick lance]

This was used in a CTF.

[nimble jolt]

Kyand coming in with advanced knowledge and trying to test people who are in a server where the majority of users are complete beginners for the sake of "discussion" lol

[silver sky]

I need more context

[naive violet]

This is the sort of thing we keep in the advanced channels

[gritty fern]

Im not sure i would say hes “advanced” per say

[upper obsidian]

ahh

[sharp citrus]

@upper obsidian

Discord: What are the advanced channels?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/8671900-discord-what-are-the-advanced-channels

Sep 25, 2024, 4:19 PM

[upper obsidian]

my no.1 hater

💀

[sick lance]

Who is, Ninja?

[sullen hearth]

DEP ^^

[upper obsidian]

riv sadly

idk what I did so bad

[gritty fern]

Youve been rather rude to me when i try to help you

[upper obsidian]

no yeah but

[naive violet]

Nothing, that's just a topic we keep in those channels.

[upper obsidian]

dont you usually do direct syscalls to get past the hooks themselves

[frail sage]

maybe he's talking about CET ?

[upper obsidian]

and then that guy sent a screenshot of him googling it, which stated that they are hooked

so im rly confused you know

[sullen hearth]

It means Data Execution Prevention DEP

[nimble jolt]

you're definitely not confused lol

[upper obsidian]

I know what DEP is but its not related at all to what im talking about, sadly

[frail sage]

ASLR and DEP not enough

[upper obsidian]

again, not related to what I was talking about 😦

[frail sage]

CET is

[silver sky]

IDC, I'm going back to writing my malware cya later folks

[gritty fern]

lol

[rapid merlin]

Isn't that illegal in UK?

[sullen hearth]

Then maybe you should first goggl "How to ask questions?"

[jolly forge]

Is there a place where I can see all the THM ranks and what they unlock?

[upper obsidian]

when you want to call something like ntallocatevirtual blah blah you can use a direct syscall instead, it's syscall wont come from ntdll which effectively bypasses the hook the EDR has there

[rapid merlin]

Somewhere in the docs
Google it

[silver sky]

Technically

[upper obsidian]

anyways man

ur telling me to learn how to ask a question maybe you should learn more yourself

[sharp citrus]

What are levels on TryHackMe?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6496044-what-are-levels-on-tryhackme

Sep 25, 2024, 4:22 PM

[rapid merlin]

Oh I just got the link😂

[jolly forge]

Thanks Scrubz mvp

[gritty fern]

Scrubz W per usual

[sullen hearth]

Was a well meant advice.

[gritty fern]

cyall

Class starting

[upper obsidian]

me too.

telling me DEP and ASLR when asking about direct syscalls in an evasion context

should maybeeeee learn a thing or 2

and also the other guy that kept telling me to google literally proved that it doesnt answer the question

[high mulch]

mate, you come across pedantic and argumentative just for the sake of it.

[rapid merlin]

Come on😂

Let's stop this

[upper obsidian]

how does that come across?

"oh no"

[rapid merlin]

This is literally ongoing for more than an hour😂

[upper obsidian]

you said that to probably mock me for not googling it, when the answer it gave you are wrong

kinda funny

[nimble jolt]

What is the point of this

[vagrant swallow]

anyone completed the cheese shop room ??

[upper obsidian]

the point? le funni

[rapid merlin]

No hints yet

[sick lance]

Too early for hits

[high mulch]

then you're definitely trolling

[nimble jolt]

dgmw i'm enjoying researching the topics you guys are attacking each other about while you're attacking each other about them

[upper obsidian]

I mean I wasnt trolling

[nimble jolt]

i learnding

[primal yoke]

as an outsider looking in, it seems a bit odd to join a server and deliberately pretend you don't know something just to bait people into an argument like this.

[upper obsidian]

I was asking a genuine question

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

😂😂😂

[upper obsidian]

hihi I mean

look at the answers I got

full of ego and actually not helping

except @sick lance

which actually helped

[pulsar spoke]

That's a bot 💀

[vagrant swallow]

anyone up for discussion ??

[nimble jolt]

lol

[rapid merlin]

I cant contribute anything when I don't know enough myself, right?

[sullen hearth]

You'd mean monitoring on kernel level?

[tall elbow]

about?

[rapid merlin]

And I tried to be as nice as possible, to everyone :)

Hello

Hiii

[vagrant swallow]

The Cheese shop (new room)

[chilly veldt]

no hints

[pulsar spoke]

Isn't there a seperate channel for that?

[tall elbow]

oh sorry i didnt even know there is a new room

[sullen hearth]

Soccomp?

😄

[vagrant swallow]

Thanks for informing bro... I didn't know that

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @chilly veldt (current: #7 - 883)

[vagrant swallow]

can anyone help me #room-help ??

[sick lance]

Please don't do this, be patient, somebody will help you.

[upper obsidian]

ok guys I have taken the time to reflect

I am sorry.

[rapid merlin]

Rather silly question probably, but can you get CSRF on mobile?

[sick lance]

Crowdstrike getting questioned.

[sick lance]

Yeah?

[nimble jolt]

the questions will be infuriating :)

[loud marlin]

Clownstrike

[rapid merlin]

Got it, thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @stark gust (current: #216 - 28)

[rapid merlin]

And thanks to you too

[naive violet]

Some mobile apps are also just embedded web pages

[nimble jolt]

a big "some"

[slow helm]

hey james

mind if you pass to #room-help

[rapid merlin]

just a WebView yeah?

[worthy fractal]

hello, i downloaded openvpn conf file and connect tryhackme network , i verfied with tutorial now i want to acces machine with my own kali machine's browser but it doesn't open the website, can someone help me?

[upper obsidian]

hey @sick lance sorry to bother, how can I join the advanced channel?

[quick violet]

#site-support

[quick violet]

0xD rank or OSCP are the two ways I can recall that you can gain access

[shell nova]

Did you connect to the VPN from inside the VM?

[upper obsidian]

ok I have OSCP, how can I join? (or how do I get verified for having OSCP)

[shell nova]

There's a few others

[sharp citrus]

@upper obsidian

Discord: What are the advanced channels?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/8671900-discord-what-are-the-advanced-channels

Sep 25, 2024, 4:48 PM

[shell nova]

Ping me

[upper obsidian]

in offsec?

[worthy fractal]

yes

[quick violet]

What are the others? I know throwback was one... not sure what else

[shell nova]

I'll find you there then

[upper obsidian]

ok thank you 🙂

[shell nova]

Aight

[twin ridge]

➕ Gave the role OSCP to .kyand

[upper obsidian]

thank you 🫡

[twin ridge]

➕ Gave the role OSWE to .kyand

[shell nova]

Saw that one too

[upper obsidian]

❤️

[rapid merlin]

Instant advanced channels

😂

[shell nova]

You should verify though

Might also be a precondition, never checked that tbh

[upper obsidian]

okok will check how to do that

[shut hawk]

#advanced-general and

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Sep 25, 2024, 4:53 PM

[upper obsidian]

tyty

[shut hawk]

one of em

[shell nova]

Lol

[upper obsidian]

oh I dont think I have thm account

[shell nova]

Rofl

[sick lance]

There is a few members who aren''t verified in the advanced channels.

[shell nova]

There's a chance to make one

[upper obsidian]

well I just want to discuss stuff with people, not really do thm (got a lot on my plate)

[shut hawk]

how did you find this server, by interest?

[shell nova]

That's fine

[shell nova]

Probably from htb and wanted to troll earlier

[shut hawk]

before anyone says, I'm well aware of the discovery tab

[shell nova]

😉

[upper obsidian]

just heard about it from the community

not many positive things about the community, but oh well nothing can be perfect can it

[shell nova]

Yeah but which one

[upper obsidian]

well friends

[rapid merlin]

Always be a bit mysterious, no?

[shell nova]

Welcome then, also please don't be an arse

[upper obsidian]

well I think almost every1 in cybersec field knows about thm 😛

dont exactly recall the first time I heard about it

[shell nova]

Lot do now, yeah

[silver sky]

I miss the covid days

[sick lance]

Me too.

[rapid merlin]

Can you imagine that's 5 years ago

[sick lance]

A legitimate reason not to meet people

[silver sky]

Don't fucking remind me

[rapid merlin]

I was 11 at the time🫡

[silver sky]

Now I feel old

https://tenor.com/view/up-carl-fredrickson-old-stiff-arthritis-gif-26296416

[cloud quiver]

😂

[shell nova]

4 and a bit

[rapid merlin]

Yeah that

Wait, almost 5 right?

November 2019

[shell nova]

https://tenor.com/view/so-sayweall-battlestart-galactica-william-adama-bsg-twelve-colonies-gif-18616973

[fossil flower]

hello hackers

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/so-say-we-all-battlestar-galactica-gif-12154292

[fossil flower]

i am working on some apps ; if anyone interested message me

[pliant cairn]

ola people

[high mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-greetings-thanks-hello-world-gif-27111190

[loud marlin]

who old ?

[pliant cairn]

ola==hello

[high mulch]

[pliant cairn]

in spanish

i guess

[high mulch]

it's actually Hola*

[pliant cairn]

i dont know spanish

lol

[loud marlin]

oooh

missread lol

[high mulch]

Ola means wave, or a very shitposty way of saying Hello in the Spanish community/latam forums etc...

[pliant cairn]

the little i know is cause of dora the exlorer

ola in india is like a uber competitor. lol

i thought of wiping my entire devices but im too lazy for some reason :/

[upper obsidian]

why do you want to wipe your entire device O.o

[pliant cairn]

just a practice i do every quarter/half yearly

[upper obsidian]

that must suck lol

I mean I guess you keep your data in a way

[pliant cairn]

yes only the things that matter

[upper obsidian]

yeah okok

@cosmic tusk hi

didn't know id find you here

[terse hazel]

seadris mentioned

[upper obsidian]

hey @terse hazel see im not seadris

[terse hazel]

bro you have 3 accounts here

[upper obsidian]

STOP

I have 1 account

[boreal scarab]

That the inside of my eyelids is the best

[wooden totem]

Just woke up from middle of sleep, thinking man english is weird, i mean what tf is this: " I'm ", are you kidding me, letter little stick letter, who came up with this. Cant even use am for nothing else so its like destined to be freaky with I, smh

[upper obsidian]

so now you answer 😡

[boreal scarab]

Busy with work lol

It just slowed down

[pliant cairn]

actual fax

[silver sky]

I can't wait for tomorrow

[pliant cairn]

why is that?

[silver sky]

Final day of this pentest

[rapid merlin]

Hello

[pliant cairn]

its always butterflies to me at least haha

[loud marlin]

there is thing called insults, in visudo. and if you miss sudo pasword

[silver sky]

Oh it's an unreal feeling. I've got my game plan. Enter using my hivis, use my cloned ID card and get access to the server room

[high mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[upper obsidian]

no doubt

every1 is nice 😄

[pliant cairn]

hecker man

[pliant cairn]

or are they?

vsauce here

[upper obsidian]

👀

[pliant cairn]

[tepid furnace]

happy holidays guys

be sure to stay warm this winter

[boreal scarab]

Boss is chilling listening to music, I'm chilling listening to music

3 more hours of doing nothing and getting paid for it

[gritty fern]

homander

[tepid furnace]

homeander

[peak whale]

Evening!

[tepid furnace]

homander!

[regal niche]

downlander

[pliant cairn]

man 80s is such a vibe

[karmic geyser]

@upper obsidian bro got omni colors?

Don't troll @cosmic tusk please guys, this is THM.

🙂

[upper obsidian]

id never troll seadris

[rapid merlin]

It’s getting cold 🥶

[gritty fern]

Kyand was seriously trolling?

[upper obsidian]

no

I asked questions

got my answers

I mean depends how you define trolling tho

technically it is subjective

end of day I just asked 2 questions, was told to google, proved that googling it doesnt provide a valid answer

but anyways I wont talk abt it anymore as its apparently an issue

[sullen hearth]

Back again 🦝 . Come in and find trash

[gritty fern]

Trash panda find trash

[sullen hearth]

Thats me 🤓

[novel geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ramen-ramen-cat-eating-noodles-gif-826652581506881253

[gritty fern]

No way!!

[novel geyser]

cats need to eat too 😄

[sullen hearth]

Ohu man, i hope tomorrow dont go that long 😮‍💨

What has happened in the meantime?

[peak whale]

Saving machine state on Kali VM surely is a blessing!

[sullen hearth]

Nah, kamikaze! 😂

[upper obsidian]

@novel geyser you like dolan?

[nimble jolt]

hi

[boreal scarab]

Afternoon everyone! Our friend, @gray sonnet , just recently went through a bunch of emergency medical surgeries. He's in need of funds for his college. Any amount at all that you could give, would mean the world to us!
Disclaimer: I have been granted permission to post.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-anirudh-dillis-education-after-medical-crisis

[sullen hearth]

You are listen ren?

[rapid merlin]

try hack me

you can not

[sullen hearth]

Uh, 'Ghost of Yōtei' is comin 😍🔥

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/09/24/ghost-of-yotei-is-coming-in-2025/

[pliant cairn]

im very bored and can't decide on what to play

[sullen hearth]

Eat and sleep. But its just my advice bc i will do it ^^

[rapid merlin]

Last night I must of woken up a few times because of the cold

[sullen hearth]

You need a dog... or a cat
...or a hamster they can keep you warm. With the hamster im not sure tbh

[rapid merlin]

Might need an army of hamsters to cover me 😂

Do you need internet to run a PlayStation ?

[sullen hearth]

Imagine 🤣🤣🤣

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-gerbil-gerbils-hamsters-rodent-gif-20493765

[rapid merlin]

So cute, hamsters make me nervous though. I always think they’ll bite me

[sick lance]

WinAmp "revivial"

[slender scaffold]

Place server next to bed

[slender scaffold]

Llamas beware

[sullen hearth]

Totally agree! They are dangerous sometime. Just a pet for adrenaline junkies ^^

[rapid merlin]

Do PlayStations need internet?

To play games

[sullen hearth]

Yes

[crude stump]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eleph-gif-15526630790044280434

[slender scaffold]

Depends on the game I think

[soft vortex]

i am level 9 now

[sullen hearth]

You even need internet to watch Blu-rays

[soft vortex]

i am about to finish the active directory room

[sullen hearth]

CRat yea ^^

[soft vortex]

you are level 9?

[sullen hearth]

I need internet for watchin blurays 🤷

[sullen hearth]

Yea. Congrats 🤝

[soft vortex]

zumi level 8 only

[crude stump]

The great

[sullen hearth]

Lvl means not that much

[crude stump]

Bro I freaking love hairless animals

https://tenor.com/view/naked-rat-gif-5081263657995207111

That’s what’s cute

But there way harder to take care of

They need hella baths

[rapid merlin]

What a gorgeous kitty

[sullen hearth]

I like the cats. My ex partner had 2. They have a great character.

[rapid merlin]

Sadge okay

[soft vortex]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sullen hearth (current: #188 - 36)

[crude stump]

[crude stump]

Yes

You also have to rub them down with coconut oil

For there skin after baths

[soft vortex]

i want to get into top 15

[slender scaffold]

Pampered animals

[rapid merlin]

You also have to clean around their nails

[crude stump]

Im pretty sure it’s a genetic mutation

[crude stump]

Yeah

[rapid merlin]

If I had a hairless cat I would knit it jumpers for the winter

[slender scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/coconut-gallop-banging-monty-python-holy-grail-gif-5875478

[sullen hearth]

Yes, unfortunately you have to pay a little more attention because the protective function is not like that of other cats with fur

[rapid merlin]

I don’t think they do, many animals are bred to look a certain way

One animal I don’t like the idea of is bull dogs and other flat faced breeds because they just suffer

We saw them a lot at the vets

[slender scaffold]

Pugs

[crude stump]

That’s so cruel