general

[supple tangle]

i dont get the hate, whats so wrong about talking about distros

[crude stump]

its constant

[split compass]

I haven't been hacking in a while, but I always kept a shell file with the full path command to launch tryhackme's VPN and added an alias for it to my .bashrc.

[crude stump]

plus they each have there pros and cons

[supple tangle]

maybe there could be a dedicated channel then, idk

[shut hawk]

I'd suggest the following, if you want something that just works out the box without having to customise everything - but use what works best for you

• PopOS
• Ubuntu
• Fedora

[normal fable]

Endeavours too

Most of the time....

[crude stump]

i like PopOS

its pretty solid

[crude stump]

oh thats smart

[normal fable]

I hear PopOS is pretty solid. Never tried myself

[split compass]

I had a few issues with PopOS when I tried it, but nothing serious enough to scare me away from using it.

I just wanted to try what I'm on now (Nobara) because it's Glorious Eggroll's custom Fedora distro.
(The GE in GE-Proton for y'all Linux gamers.)

[wanton schooner]

Hey guys any clue

[crude stump]

no clue sorry

[normal fable]

#programming maybe

[forest prawn]

Thanks everyone

[spark plume]

does anyone use openCTI at their job? curious to hear how used it is.

[rapid merlin]

Kali Linux is superior

[wanton schooner]

Oh itd ok thnks for replying

[crude stump]

not as a daily driver

[normal fable]

Kali.. in a VM.. is good.

[rapid merlin]

Oh okay. I’m new to Linux.

[normal fable]

It's too buggy for bare metal daily driver.

[rapid merlin]

I’m using it VM

[split compass]

Always remember if you only load the base OS in to your /dev/sda1 root partition, and use /dev/sda2 /home or some similar arrangement.
You can distro hop easily without losing data.
Still do backups blah blah blah, RAID is not a backup, etc. etc.
Always keep a hotspare...

[rapid merlin]

Tedious OS

[crude stump]

kali in vm is great

[rapid merlin]

McDonald’s to pull me out of my hangover

[supple tangle]

yum

[chilly veldt]

my magnesium and salt water tasted weird

but I need to drink it

[normal fable]

Get a sausage egg and cheese biscuit for me please @rapid merlin

[split compass]

I'll be playing around with Qubes at some point in the next few weeks, but I haven't decided if I'm crazy enough to try running it on my main laptop yet.
It looks simple to me, having run SDN and Hyperscale scenarios, but I don't know how good it will be at GPU passthrough and thel ike.

[rapid merlin]

That’ll never taste good 😂😂

[rapid merlin]

I’m gutted that I woke up late and missed the breakfast menu 😪😪😪

[chilly veldt]

the magnesium part tastes good, it's with ginger and citrus taste

[normal fable]

Dang.. it's 7am here. Lol

[chilly veldt]

4:30pm here

[rapid merlin]

3:30pm here

Didn’t get home until like 5am

[loud marlin]

Mg in generaln taste liek shit. the "taste" is added to kill bad taste. and now when you do this. all things are weird 🙂

[split compass]

Oh, that's really slept in.
I was going to ask if you can beat the sun to the nearest timezone border.

[rapid merlin]

😂😂😂

[chilly veldt]

yeah, the tablesalt water is always a fun taste

[loud marlin]

you senses work overtime and brain do all weird shit to keep you up. so that gives lot's of weirdness

[rapid merlin]

Woke up with a bruised eye

No idea how I bruised my eye but it’s there

[chilly veldt]

they sure do, cause no solid food for 68 hours, and my sleep hasn't been good either

[loud marlin]

yep... brain work overtime. if this is first time, brain is, "scared" and do not know what to do first time. same thing i had with my insomnia, and my doctor warned me of brain being "scared"

if you get some hallucinations, is not uncommon

special in periferal side of eyes

[chilly veldt]

isn't scared, just trying to work with low levels of stuff

but yeah, I get that

[shadow loom]

yo yo

[chilly veldt]

reminds me, I need to take my vitamins again 😄

[loud marlin]

you are right. he do all the things to keep up. so he "pump" some weird things can occur

[steel aspen]

People on FB saying Crowdstrike issue had nothing to do with kernel driver? I thought it was being updated with that software Falcon Sensor or something but bad code caused the glitch

[karmic geyser]

how's going birb, all good?

you never setted up NeoVim again?

[steel aspen]

Or not with but for

[shadow loom]

kekw

I set up netvim just fine thankyouverymuch

[split compass]

People on Facebook are often wrong.

The fact of the matter is, crowdstrike is a kernel level operator on systems as a defacto part of how it functions.

[shadow loom]

im ok, just got home from a 2.5 hour ride on my motorbike

now I'm exhausted

xD

[steel aspen]

Yeah I thought it used kernel drivers for the security right?

[shadow loom]

sorry, 2 hour

but ey, who's counting

[steel aspen]

Well the security goes right down to kernel

[split compass]

It needs kernel level memory access to do is job.

[steel aspen]

Yeah

Which means drivers

[split compass]

Not about security so much as, that's the only way to read all process spaces.

[steel aspen]

Oh yeah

[split compass]

Yep, drivers are just code themselves

[chilly veldt]

👀

good idea to ride today, it's amazing weather

[steel aspen]

And it was their driver being updated and rolled out that caused it?

[split compass]

I sent a whole bunch of people to watch Dave Plummer explain what a blue screen is, and why it is blue yesterday

[shadow loom]

yeah

I "met" an MC on the way home

I tagged along from a safe non-provocative distance

[steel aspen]

Cos that .sys was an updater one or something

[karmic geyser]

Nice

[steel aspen]

Idk I'm confused about those drivers

[karmic geyser]

take some rest.

[chilly veldt]

I always do that too, before I get allowed to pass

[steel aspen]

The ones I know are like device manager ones

[shadow loom]

they were too many to pass here.. like 6-7 people on harleys and vest and shit

[chilly veldt]

usually they are nice and just let me pass instantly, other times I talk to them at signs and talk, cause they are cool people

[shadow loom]

[chilly veldt]

lmao

[shadow loom]

i was like "yeeeaaaa, I'll just stay behind ya'll mkay"

[steel aspen]

But this was more of a software one? Or is it counted as just the normal bridge?

[chilly veldt]

yeee, I just hang around with them, they usually vibe with me cause of my helmet lmao

[spark plume]

first problem is listening to people on FB.

[shut hawk]

It wasn't a driver, just definition files
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/technical-details-on-todays-outage/

[normal fable]

Best to stay back unless they wave you past..

[steel aspen]

Yeah I didn't think it was correct at first but it got me curious

[shadow loom]

exactly

[chilly veldt]

the guys here in denmark aren't that bad tbh

[normal fable]

There are lots of clubs in my area..

[blissful crater]

Anyone does malware analysis or reverse engineering??

[normal fable]

And yeah.. they're all nice if you're respectful.

[chilly veldt]

depends

[tired peak]

what are y'all talking about

cops?

[chilly veldt]

motorcycle clubs

[tired peak]

oh

[blissful crater]

On what?

[tired peak]

yeah we have those 🤣

[chilly veldt]

the "rulers of the road"

[tired peak]

just ask your question

[normal fable]

For two wheels*

[chilly veldt]

eh, some think it's the whole road and not just of bikers

[shadow loom]

nah not really

[swift kite]

Gdmorning

[normal fable]

That's true..

[chilly veldt]

what might be your question, some stuff are only in advanced channels that we talk about it, that's why I said depends, cause topics like that aren't for beginners

[spark plume]

configuration file / definition file are referred as channel files according to this tech detail. of which a channel file is faciliates comms between components. which, isnt that what a driver does?

[shadow loom]

I live like 5 mins from a Bandidos MC club house, and in the 20+ years I believe they've been there, there hasn't been a single incident worth mentioning in any local news or anywhere else

[chilly veldt]

well, if we are talking about actual gangs, then yeah, but many places have some low level motorcycle clubs that just hang out

[shadow loom]

other groups of people however..

[loud marlin]

going better...

[shadow loom]

[chilly veldt]

oh, I know, you remember the news article about a place getting blown up in copenhagen due to conflict?

last year

[shadow loom]

vaguely

[chilly veldt]

I work close by that place 😄

[shadow loom]

nice xD

[chilly veldt]

we were on our way back from the yearly offsite from work, and going to the office, when we got the news we weren't allowed to be there due to the cops securing everything

[naive violet]

No...
They're configuration details used by a driver.

[spark plume]

got it 👍

[steel aspen]

Are kernel drivers the same drivers you'd find to update in device manager? And like graphic driver for example or am I very dumb.

[naive violet]

The thing that makes it a kernel driver is where it runs

ie in the kernel

[steel aspen]

Oh yeah

[split compass]

Because you specifically mentioned graphic drivers I'm going to give you a link over to Dave plumber's YouTube video. Graphics drivers after having once been moved out of the kernel remove back in for performance reasons.

https://youtu.be/KgqJJECQQH0?si=1-7Hta8Ts4ZAVsJF

It's part of his chat here.

[chilly veldt]

hmmmm, what to have for my first meal in 72 hours

could go for some noodles with bone broth and chicken

[split compass]

Something delicious, but not huge. No American portions.

[loud marlin]

eat some soup first

[split compass]

Perfect

[chilly veldt]

yeah, that's why I go with noodles made in bone broth

and chicken for protein

[loud marlin]

smart yea

[normal fable]

Eat veggies. Pref raw.

[crude stump]

The disrespect

[split compass]

Hey, I love the Golden Corral as much as the next guy, but I know what that'll do to you after an extended fast.

[normal fable]

The buffet??

[split compass]

Yeah

[normal fable]

You in Kentucky?

[split compass]

First place I ever used my adult money to take my parents to. 😅

NC/SC border

[crude stump]

Golden Corrals bathrooms are always nasty

[normal fable]

I haven't seen one outside of KY. LOL

[split compass]

They were in Cornelius at the time. I still live in the Maple Hat.

[normal fable]

Ah. Love Wilmington.

[chilly veldt]

but I need to go shop for chicken then

[normal fable]

Broth noodles and veggies.

[split compass]

I must do the driving thing now. Later all.

[normal fable]

Later

[crude stump]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

[tired peak]

Golden Corral his horrible... I had a friend when I was living in Colorado who was like "hey lets go to Golden Corral for their steak dinner", I was like sure... I had never been. It was the worst food ever

[crude stump]

Whatever you do don’t use there bathrooms

[split compass]

Where did you get this perfectly accurate video of my every day commute? XD

[tired peak]

all I remember was this sad tasting steak and bland bland food

[normal fable]

The only decent thing is pizza... Or what they call pizza.. lol

[crude stump]

I’m glad buffets fell off during Covid

[tired peak]

except for Sweet tomatoes/soup plantation

RIP

[normal fable]

There was one in KY that I liked. Good seafood.. all you can eat king crab, prawns, fish...

[gray sonnet]

I just opened up my old laptop's heatskink...

it's absolutely disgusting...

[normal fable]

I'm surprised we don't have anything like that in WA...

[sand trench]

meep meep VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

today on ice cream with shadow

[normal fable]

Is a bit chilly here today...

[sand trench]

it is nearly 30°C here today

[normal fable]

About 63f here

[sand trench]

so 17°C

[normal fable]

Supposed to get up to 83f

[sand trench]

and going up to 28°C???

[normal fable]

Yeah.. supposed to..

[chilly veldt]

It's a nice 26c here

[loud marlin]

22 here... finally

[white forum]

I’m itching to get to my laptop so I can hack the planet

[karmic geyser]

I already knew about it.

hope they fixed it.

[naive violet]

Issue is the systems with bitlocker that need recovery

[tulip heath]

what's the average salary of a red team operator

?

[karmic geyser]

it's really a bad issue, I'm happy I left earlier. (I was inten)

[naive violet]

You should look on platforms like Linkedin to understand your region

[tulip heath]

india?

[sinful radish]

is it easy to get an internship and land a full time job in US in general?

umm

[karmic geyser]

depends on where you from, if you are in India it's Decent.

[naive violet]

From outside the US?

[tulip heath]

united states?

[young apex]

It really depends on where you are. Can't really give you a figure, but the pay is usually good given the scarcity of the talent. LinkedIn should give you an idea about the salary in your region.

[sinful radish]

Im Aus citizen and my partner is US.. we were in provision to moving to US after i finish my bachelor, for better opportunities

[tulip heath]

ok brother

[karmic geyser]

As James Said:

You should look on platforms like Linkedin to understand your region

[sinful radish]

I think IT in general US has bigger infrastructure and more jobs

And i was thinking maybe landing a job in cybersecurity easier

maybe not lol

[tired peak]

more jobs but also more people trying to get said jobs

[karmic geyser]

be tooo good like me

[tired peak]

the layoffs of the past year or so have been devastating to tech, which means there are a bunch of people qualified in various parts of IT willing to take a variety of jobs

[karmic geyser]

correct

[tired peak]

and so what you've seen is a lot of shuffling around of people

also, a lot of companies in the US will want US citizens in cyber positions

[young apex]

Any good alternative to copying from Windows to Linux using SCP?

[sinful radish]

I thought clearance and Citizenship is only needed for federals

[sand fjord]

python3 server?

[sinful radish]

but yeah i read having a clearance is better in terms of getting a job

[tired peak]

maybe not clearance but citizenship is often a requirement. So many companies have work with the government, that it is just easier to require citizens

[karmic geyser]

it's not always skills, it's who you know.

[young apex]

Thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand fjord (current: #2142 - 1)

[tired peak]

no... its not cheaper, its just what may be required by their customers

[sick lance]

Updog.

[naive violet]

SCP will work fwiw

[sinful radish]

i thought about joining US military after school just for the sake of citizenship and clearance.. cos myabe it's more options in employment.. but money is shit lol

[crude stump]

i kinda forgot. is the soc 1 and 2 paths subscription paths

[naive violet]

You need a visa etc to work in the US if you're not a citizen

Pain in the butt, and expensive

[sick lance]

All the paths have subscription content.

[crude stump]

ight

[tired peak]

well there is that, but plenty of companies do sponsor. Software development companies for instance often have a ton of H1B visa holders

[buoyant tree]

It's like a lottery for the h-1b visa you got a 1 in 4 chance even if you pay the fee which last I heard was 14k$

[sinful radish]

i think visa shouldnt be an issue for me. again my partner got aus green card cos im aus citizen and i assume it'd be vice versa for US too?

[tired peak]

it can take a few years

[sinful radish]

Maybe i should avoid while trump is in position anyway XD

[tired peak]

are you married? if not, don't get married, get a fiance visa. A friend of mine found out the hard way

[crude stump]

that doesnt matter

[tired peak]

I think her husband's visa (from the EU) took 4 years

or apply now if you haven't already

[crude stump]

military is a option. Each branch has there own cyber command so you could go for that. you prolly wont be on the front line

personlly

tho

once you join you have to serve for 3 years

[sinful radish]

why not?

I don't mind joining military tbh.

[tired peak]

it just takes longer

a fiance visa is about 18 months from what I've heard, a spouse's visa is years

[sinful radish]

from an immigrant point of view, it gives you tricare, veteran status and they pay for your school

[crude stump]

thats weird

[tired peak]

lots of people get married instead of looking at the fiance visa

[crude stump]

i would think its the other way around

[tired peak]

I know

my friend's husband just got his visa this year, I'm gonna go find when they got married

[crude stump]

only thing i can think of is they are thinking, get your visa quick and have your wedding in the us

[sinful radish]

it sucks military pays too little. almost minimum wage for 3 years yikes

[tired peak]

2021 so yeah 3 years

[crude stump]

wild

[sinful radish]

yeah that is weird

you would've thought the other way around

[sand trench]

hmmmm

[sinful radish]

i think priorities should go to married couples lol

[sand trench]

maybe shadow makes more then "minimum" wage in the usa

[tired peak]

do you have a degree Dolce?

according to the interwebs... a military recruit makes $20k USD

[sinful radish]

I do but in health field and thinking of career changing

[tired peak]

ahh then you wouldn't be at the lowest pay

if you did the military but also if they went by your degree, they'd put you in an applicable area to your degree (I would think)

[sinful radish]

I had a look at joining as an officer and that is only for US citizen

yes literally doo doo money haha

[white forum]

and youre locked into that contract for at least 4 years

what branch

[sinful radish]

that's cool

[crude stump]

anyone know the reason why i wouldnt have access to firefox in pop os in a vbox vm

[white forum]

nice

[sinful radish]

do you have knees and back problem? or is it only for who did infrantry soldiers

infantry

[shut hawk]

what do you mean by access?

[sinful radish]

yikes

[white forum]

thats insane

[sinful radish]

I shall thank you and your knees for service

[crude stump]

"Erm we are having trouble finding that site(Every site,even google), Check that firefox has access to the web, could be behind a firewall"

[sinful radish]

120lbs jesus.. that's a human

[naive violet]

DNS?

[shut hawk]

checked if its DNS?

[naive violet]

Always DNS

[shut hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/dns-haiku-dns-haiku-tech-pod-it-was-dns-gif-27399037

[gray sonnet]

It was DNS...

[crude stump]

let me check

prolly is

[gray sonnet]

Hey Zumi :D 👋

[sinful radish]

That's alot for someone who needs to operate a robot

Yeah nah i think carrying 120lbs is not healthy

was it a long distance each time?

haha i don't think anybody would enjoy that

wow so you were in korea too that's cool

I should really thank you for your service as a korean

Do you get deployed voluntarily or you go where they tell you to go sort of thing?

man that sounds cool doing missions all over the globe

[distant ibex]

If we wanted to run a command in the background, what operator would we want to use?

I now what but he is

error

the operator &

[chilly veldt]

&

[distant ibex]

i now but error

[chilly veldt]

#room-help

[sinful radish]

lol shiiit

[distant ibex]

see the privet

@fervent meteor

I said what I know, but the rest of this is a question and I will finish

i can send image

[sinful radish]

maybe it didn't benefit you careerwise and moneywise but having these experience would have taught you resilience and life skills?

• how to operate a robot and you can carry 120lbs

[distant ibex]

ok thankس

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @fervent meteor (current: #872 - 4)

[arctic cradle]

still looking for assistance regarding the matter :c

[sick lance]

If you don't understand theory, find a new source?

[arctic cradle]

I understand theory

I want to apply theory in a practical level

[white forum]

also just take notes on it bro if you cant use it practically yet

[arctic cradle]

I take notes all the time

but all I do is just write notes and read theory

[white forum]

me too man i feel u

[arctic cradle]

I've only done one single CTF room and that's all because I have experience in that field which the room required

[karmic geyser]

[lofty trellis]

hey, do most people start their cybersecuirty in highschool or after it?

[loud marlin]

well... some do, some not

[gray sonnet]

I started in HS

[lofty trellis]

how's it going right nwo

[gray sonnet]

I just finished HS

so far so good though

[normal fable]

Sometimes prior to HS..

[lofty trellis]

ah isee

[normal fable]

I think I was 11 or 12 when I started.

[gray sonnet]

black hat spotted 👀 /s

[lofty trellis]

shouldnt you be worried about getting a pimple at that age

[sick lance]

I started very young too.

[gray sonnet]

I started when I was in 9th grade 🤷‍♂️

started coding in 8th grade

[normal fable]

No. I was more concerned with my parents finding my stash. 🤣

[lofty trellis]

ig some people are built different lol

[normal fable]

It was all AOL and VB back then though..

[sick lance]

Oh the things I created in VB...

I designed and wrote something that the only way to stop it from working was to completly remove the registry.

[normal fable]

If I could talk about some of the crazy things I did... Lmao

[lofty trellis]

i dont think doing this at a young age is a common thing 💀

[thin marlin]

whats the answer for the first question on web applcation security

[sick lance]

#room-help

[brazen cedar]

So the FBI didn’t come to your door ?

[normal fable]

Maybe they did.. maybe they didn't.

[white forum]

Yea so I tried doing one of the easy red team boxes and I know literally nothing just a couple thousand more hours of studying and I think I got this

[torpid furnace]

I was 10😭🙏

[shadow loom]

Le me joining #general chat seeing messages like "I think I was 11 or 12 when I started" and "I was 10" and other similar messages:

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[potent spruce]

I need two weeks of continuous work to solve this room 🫠

[white forum]

wtf even is that xD

[chilly veldt]

some of them are actually pretty easy

and just text

[potent spruce]

Yes but the view is really amazing🫡😂😂😂

[chilly veldt]

yeah

[jolly canyon]

@modest zinc team. Can I make a suggestion? I am new to cybersecurity studies and I often find after completing a room that I wished I had some material to practice on. Obviously the CTFs are the answer but I have to go search for the right CTF to match what I'm studying. Can you please add links or suggest relevant or corresponding CTFs to rooms this would apply to? I often find myself copy pasting the whole room in chatgpt and asking it to make a CTF based on the criteria, and often find myself thinking. 'I wish THM would throw me a bone here.'

[shadow loom]

28 here

[sick lance]

#feedback-and-ideas for this please. 😄

[chilly veldt]

some of the rooms have that, but many of the ctfs are made after the learning ones, which means that they'll have to go update those rooms to link to said challenge, but I get what you mean, lots of rooms are also made by users of the website, so they aren't sure if there are any learning material or anything for that, but if you'll like then there's #feedback-and-ideas

[shadow loom]

would have been nice. you should send that suggestion in through #feedback-and-ideas

[jolly canyon]

OK, fair enough. Yes I think I will send this their way. I'm sure they've thought of this and like @chilly veldt mentioned I'm sure they have their reasons. But maybe if enough of us complain something will change 😂. I just often think 'Man I wish I had material to really drill this into My brain'

[white forum]

using chatgpt to create ctfs is pretty big brain im gonna use that

[split compass]

I assume largely logistics.
The room creator would have to know where to recommend.

But maybe some key term flags that you can take from the room and filter the CTF or koth on.

[gray sonnet]

it's gonna be useful when you're running into so many issues haha

I once locked myself out of the box, helped me go into recovery and reset the root password and edit the sudoers file

Disclaimer: Don't edit the sudoers file without knowing what the hell you're doing

[tired peak]

good advice

also do regular snapshots

[chilly veldt]

and write notes on everything regarding your setup

[gray sonnet]

Helped me a lot when I had to redo everything on an older image of ubuntu server

ALWAYS make notes

[supple tangle]

i dont like notes, i just revise and practice and go back to original resources if i forget

[wooden totem]

wait hold on, is every text on youtube slightly tilted

[supple tangle]

i don't see it

[gray sonnet]

.....

whatever floats your boat I guess 🤷‍♂️

[sand trench]

shadow has problems taking notes...
so here is what shadow does:
try teaching everyone else how to do it and help them through the problems

[brazen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun-head-bang-desk-gif-3828773

[sand trench]

hence learn by helping/teaching

[chilly veldt]

the best way to learn is by teaching to others

[naive violet]

Pro tip

Even though 20 volts is not a lot, a capacitor charged to 20v can have a LOT of energy and make a decent spark

Ask me how I know!

[chilly veldt]

lmao

you got sparked?

[naive violet]

Nah I was smart about it and discharged the cap when I was done, on the handle of some tweezers

[chilly veldt]

good good

[naive violet]

And uh... it sparked, left some nasty black marks that wiped off, and a small pit in the handle

[chilly veldt]

was about to say, if it sparked you, you'll probably won't be texting in here 😄

[naive violet]

20v would be enough to hurt and leave a nasty burn

[chilly veldt]

yeah, so you'll have your finger in water 😄

[naive violet]

Would be... difficult to die from 20v, unless you had wet hands and it went via your heart

[chilly veldt]

oh, didn't think about dying, more like, keeping your finger in water to calm down the burning

[naive violet]

Shoutout electroboom

[chilly veldt]

love that guy

[sand trench]

YATTA

yuup

learned that quick when repairing and maintaining defiblirators

if someone tells you battery powered stuff is not dangerous

[naive violet]

Big caps are dangerous

[sand trench]

give them a defib and tell them that it is fine to shock themselves with it

[naive violet]

Small caps are fiiiiiiine

High voltages are dangerous

[sand trench]

shadow hates the mentality some people have that battery powered stuff is not dangerous when you are taking it appart

defibs and uninteruptable power supplies have taught shadow not to mess with them

[karmic geyser]

[shell rock]

is It worth to switching linux (specially fedora) from win 11 with nvdia gpu ?

[fringe locust]

I'm doing a room where the author's english is horrendous, is there a place to help correcting rooms ?

[sand trench]

worth it for what purpose????

[sand trench]

#room-bugs

[brazen cedar]

Not fedora

Use Debian

More stable

[sand trench]

eh fedora is stable enough for most people

[shell rock]

Well I don't use programs like adobe fully depends on win ( I checked list for apps that can I use in fedora)

I want to be good at linux kernel and env so I thought If I force my self to use it

I know the basic stuffs like window mang ect

[sand trench]

that is not what shadow meant
things shadow kinda meant:
for more performance on older computers
for more performance in games
for more open source software
for more privacy
for more security

[shell rock]

none just to learn it

learn linux

[sand trench]

then a virtual machine should be good enough

[shell rock]

ok

thx ❤️

[shell rock]

do you recommend any software, maybe virtualbox ? (for win )

[sand trench]

vmware or virtualbox

[shell rock]

thx again

[gray sonnet]

I personally ❤️ VMWare

[oak raptor]

It was a great move from them to release a free for personal use plan

[white forum]

also could dual boot with a usb thats what i do

[simple epoch]

vmware is considered the best, but virtualbox is really great aswell for personal home labs

[whole bridge]

Hi guys, I recently got fired from company I was working with, and they didn’t get their laptop back, I’m thinking about restarting it and using it as a personal device, what do you think and if anyone have any helpful tips or tricks that would be great.

Note: although they fired me but they still did not remove my access 😂😂

[drifting mural]

what

[sick forum]

this is illegal return it

[whole bridge]

it would be, if they asked for it?

[naive violet]

@sick forum Buying vouchers outside THM is somewhat likely to lead to you being scammed or your THM accohnt being banned

[naive violet]

It's still their property

[sick forum]

fair enough man no problem thanks for the advice dude 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @naive violet (current: #2 - 2162)

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nitro-rick-roll-gif-24863685

[whole bridge]

so you think the best thing is just to send it back?

[naive violet]

Contact them

[sick forum]

send it back to them and buy a cheap laptop 4gb ram or sommat and boot linux onto it

[normal fable]

Send it back. Legally it's the company's property. You're not going to win that battle if they take legal action against you.

I deal with this sort of situation almost weekly.. you could be in a world of hurt.

[mossy river]

Or you could just ask them

Sometimes companies will let you keep the laptop

[normal fable]

That too.. they may not want it back. 🤷

If that's the case, someone may work with you to reset it and remove any management from the device.

[karmic geyser]

https://tenor.com/bTdEP.gif

[whole bridge]

oh no, on that regards i have macbook pro M3 and i'm running VM's on it for windows and Linux, i just hold resentment against the termination of my contract and thinking that they did not ask for the laptop, then i'll just take it

[sick forum]

yeah a bad way of looking at it mate this will get you in trouble in the future

[whole bridge]

Thanks you for the advice Alt i appreciate it, i think i'll do this.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @normal fable (current: #51 - 143)

[sick forum]

regardless of what they have done it is not worth getting yourself in trouble

[normal fable]

No weewoo is good weewoo...

[whole bridge]

much appreciate it, i'll just send it back and that's it.

not worth the headache i guess, thanks for the advice guys!

[gray sonnet]

Work finally paying for the training 👀

Nice!

[normal fable]

Hell yeah! That's exciting!

Now to work on my boss....

[gentle isle]

hu

hi

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: dullgg#0 has been banned.

[molten sky]

my god that ban msg gave me an aneurysm

[naive violet]

It was copy/paste

[molten sky]

seemed like it

[wooden totem]

what is going on in this image

spontaneous combustion

[loud marlin]

my central nervous system

[drifting mural]

discombobulation

[brazen cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-apart-stick-figures-gif-7331310

[drifting mural]

https://tenor.com/view/discombobulate-gif-14899122829865785104

[fringe drift]

Does anyone no how I keep my account frozen. It's been frozen a month now. But I'm still working away and want to keep it frozen for another month

[graceful thistle]

Wow monday morning first email in the office is 'were out of coffee'. Brutal

[normal fable]

Oof.. worst email ever.

Are they rioting yet?

[graceful thistle]

'Sorry, im out of productivity'

[loud marlin]

well... start take hostages... some will buy...

Snowflake hacked =/ that sounds bad...

[karmic geyser]

[amber laurel]

And then u realise u got an assignment due on the same night that you haven't even started 😂😂

[normal fable]

Please accept my resignation. Next time don't run out of coffee. K. Thx. 🤣

[candid hemlock]

im stuck ... 😄 cant finish 2 challanges

powershell fundm challange

[normal fable]

[amber laurel]

Jokes on u, I be buying bottles of iced coffee from my local grocer 😂😂

[graceful thistle]

Hehehe luckily I actually stopped drinking coffee at the office a few months ago so Im prepared. Just rough for the others 😂

[gray sonnet]

Hi dolphin 👋

[karmic geyser]

Hi skid.

[graceful thistle]

Heya 😄

[gray sonnet]

How're you doing today dolphin?

[graceful thistle]

Not too bad although the weekend could have been a little longer 😩 hbu?

[gray sonnet]

I agree haha

[drifting mural]

I lost the track of time

I just study

[graceful thistle]

What did you study

[drifting mural]

preparing for exam

have been

[graceful thistle]

Ooh good luck!

[normal fable]

I just got voluntold to help clear out the attic.

[graceful thistle]

Voluntold, hahah. Love that

[tidal quartz]

To whoever recommended endeavor os to me: I love you

[sand trench]

shadow was part of the club for that

[lethal parrot]

Hey everyone

[split compass]

Which Snowflake?

[lethal parrot]

currently in a bit of pickle. See i signed up for a cybersecurity course at school but i dont know how to do this shit at all and im going on vacation tomorow and if i dont get it done before tomorow i cant enter the school. So i joined this server to ask for help

is this the right place?
i have to do a tryhack me assignment

Anyone there?

[rapid merlin]

Good fternoon

[normal fable]

Attic clear. Lol

[supple tangle]

yo that's a cool pfp

[split compass]

#general message

From the pinned comments.
If you're looking for a bit of a "where to start"

Otherwise, if you have specific questions, we can try to be helpful, but we will not do your assignments or homework for you.
Always happy to direct and give hints.
We even have channels dedicated to that #room-hints and #room-help assuming you get stuck while doing a THM room.

[rapid merlin]

Thanks I took selfie when I was doing thm rooms

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @supple tangle (current: #2142 - 1)

[lethal parrot]

I just dont know what they mean with "Go to http://MACHINE_IP and start enumerating the website to find the publicly exposed credentials."

is machine ip like in firefox or in files or something

[split compass]

If you're in a room, there's going to be a "start machine" button.
The machine IP will then be presented in the room contents.

And will replace the machine_ip portion of what you see there.

[rapid merlin]

I think I will soon get blind if I don't stop staring on screen 😆

[lethal parrot]

Shit i accidentally left the attackbox on and only had 1 hour is there anything i can do or do i just have to buy premium

[split compass]

Are you on a computer you own?

[lethal parrot]

on my work laptop

[split compass]

Fair, do you know if it is within work policy to run virtual machines on your work laptop?

Because that's going to be your no timelimits option.

[lethal parrot]

Yeah it shouldnt be a problem i just ran one when i did the tryhackme

[lethal parrot]

oh wow alright i gotchu

[split compass]

I just have to check, because every business and position gets their own policies.
You can download a Kali virtual machine image from offsec's website.
And you can use the OpenVPN client from inside that virtual machine to connect to TryHackMe.

[lethal parrot]

sorry do you work for tryhackme?

[split compass]

Most professionals don't actually run the majority of their toolset on baremetal, they do it within a virutal machine, whether that is Kali, Black Arch, Parrot, or just a collection of tools on their favourite operating system.

[split compass]

Nope, just been around a couple years.
We try to be friendly and helpful.

[lethal parrot]

rightt

[split compass]

Actually, darn, 5 years?

I haven't played a room in almost a year.
I need to fix that.

[lethal parrot]

please stop me if this breaks the rules but could i pay someone to make the assignemnt and give me the answers

[lethal parrot]

lol

Did i break the rules

[split compass]

LOL, yes, that would break the rules.
We're happy to support as I said above, provide hints etc, but completion is on you 🙂

[lethal parrot]

Dang its just that i cant open the vm thats the real issue tbh

[split compass]

Rank 6174.

Community has been hard at work knocking me down.

[lethal parrot]

I guess i just have to pay for premium then

Big thanks anyway!

[split compass]

Nah, just gotta figure out why you're having issues with your VM.

[lethal parrot]

Its the attackbox in tryhackme

[supple tangle]

just make a vm on your laptop and work inside it

[split compass]

Yeah, but you don't have to use the attackbox, it's an option
That's why I asked if you're allowed to install a VM on the system you're using.

[lethal parrot]

oh i thought u meant attackbox = VM

[split compass]

https://help.offsec.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049796792-Kali-Linux-Virtual-Machine

[lethal parrot]

nah unfortunattly i cant had enough trouble getting discord web to work

[split compass]

The problem with the attackbox, is it uses cloud infrastructure, and cloud infrastructure costs money.

[supple tangle]

why not go straight to https://www.kali.org/ ?

[split compass]

Kali is maintained by Offsec. I just searched for their guides 😄

[supple tangle]

ah cool

[clear jackal]

It seems like you're using your work laptop for personal activities....

[lethal parrot]

Yeah i am ngl, my own laptop had a blue screen issue last week so i sent it off to get repaired

[clear jackal]

You're probably breaking your AUP, Acceptable Use Policy, which is more than likely a fireable offense

[split compass]

Don't suppose you have your personal laptop on CrowdStrike eh? giggles

[shadow loom]

This 1000% depends on the company btw

[clear jackal]

Which is why I said probably

[lethal parrot]

Nah im good bro theyre pretty chill

[clear jackal]

But it shouldn't really matter, work and personal shouldn't mix

[lethal parrot]

nice

[lethal parrot]

not what im here for

[shadow loom]

"More than likely a fireable offense"

1000% depends on the company

[supple tangle]

hmmm yeah looks like you'll have to go premium then

[clear jackal]

I'm not sure why you're trying to argue this, none of the language I used is absolute

[split compass]

You may be stuck waiting until your personal comes back.
I hope it blue screened more than once before you decided to contact support 😄

[shadow loom]

"More than likely"

[clear jackal]

Is not absolute.

[shadow loom]

Wow ok

You wanna go there... 😂

Some people really don't wanna lose Internet arguments

Whatever

[clear jackal]

If I said "it is a fireable offense," then your statement would be correct.

[split compass]

Misuses of digital equipment is often harsh at many companies.
But even at companies who are likely to just say "Hey don't do that." will definitely go "What is Kali doing on here?" if they weren't expecting it.

[clear jackal]

You're the one trying to argue it.

[lethal parrot]

oh yeah dude it was a big problem it crashed every time i put my charger in and got a bitlocker screen when i turned on

this argument is really dumb

[shadow loom]

Forget I mentioned it. You're right. I'm wrong. 😂

Jesus

[split compass]

Ah fun.
Was it an HP laptop?

[lethal parrot]

lenovo actually

why? do hp have that problem a lot

[royal dragon]

Zaid, either setup a VM or use an EC2 instance on AWS free tier or something, work on getting connected again and move forward.

[lethal parrot]

yeah i guess so😭

[lethal parrot]

true im wasting time

going on vacation tomorow have to get this done in the next hour

[split compass]

Oh Lenovo, in my experience their support coverage is decent.

Wit HP specifically I was curious because my work laptop is HP, and when I plug in any non-HP USB-C charger I get a popup saying "We recommend you use an HP charger."

Which means they have some kind of communications code likely in their USB-C hub drivers that detects the fact that it's getting 120W from something other than an HP charge block.

So I could see a USB-C based charge circuit causing blue screens if something corrupted that driver.

Well, if its any consolation. I firmly believe THM is worth the Premium sub 🙂
But I did like 7 months without premium until I wanted to finish a bunch of paths that had premium content.

[lethal parrot]

Can someone please just open the attackbox for me i just need username and password and dont wanna pay premium or is that breaking rules again

[split compass]

And now I keep paying even though I'm not using it very much 😄

[split compass]

Nothing we can do to help you complete on your account for your course purposes.

[lethal parrot]

What if i sent the course link

[split compass]

As I said before, rules.
We won't do things for you. We will help give you hints.

[molten sky]

do you not believe what he said?

[lethal parrot]

why wouldnt i

[split compass]

I think the double t was a typo

[lethal parrot]

oh yeah i didnt mean it like that

[molten sky]

just how you had double Ts, couldn't tell if typo or sarcasm

[molten sky]

will always love this picture

[rapid merlin]

@lethal parrot

Attack box is free

[loud marlin]

anarchy...

[split compass]

Yeah, I had to put the double T against the context of our conversation 😄

[rapid merlin]

Do a free course on retaken

Tryhackme

[lethal parrot]

for about an hour

[crude stump]

You know you could just make a Kali vm

Openvpn

[lethal parrot]

i have to finish my school entry course tho its 6 questions

[supple tangle]

we've been through this

[lethal parrot]

nah on work laptop

[rapid merlin]

What are u trying to do zaid

Are u supposed to turn in your work?

[crude stump]

I guess you can’t do tryhackme

[lethal parrot]

im supposed to answer questions in tryhack me

[split compass]

Yeah that's where we started this.
He's on work laptop, and even if it is within use policy, they'll need admin/IT to install the hyper-visor from the sound of it.

[crude stump]

Why can’t they ask there admin?

[lethal parrot]

i just have to do 1 room on tryhackme

[lethal parrot]

cause its 12 am

[crude stump]

Oh

[split compass]

Honestly, I would recommend they do, just not today 😄

[rapid merlin]

U can always add more hours

[lethal parrot]

going on vacation tomorow

[crude stump]

This

[lethal parrot]

if i buy premium?

[crude stump]

No

It’s free I’m pretty sure

To add hours

[split compass]

I wasn't sure if there was a daily time limit, or just the timeout when you're on free.

[lethal parrot]

it says this: Non-subscribed user can only deploy the free AttackBox for 1 hour a day. Subscribe for unlimited access.

[split compass]

Yeah that's what I thought.

I was pretty sure that's one of the big drivers to roll your own VM.

[crude stump]

Wait you can only add hours if you use a rooms given attack box

[split compass]

And specifically because of the cost of AWS

[lethal parrot]

its premium time

[split compass]

Anyway, just made a new Distro image.
Back in a bit 😄

[shadow loom]

Think of it this way: all of the time you've spend messing around with this just to save a one-time payment of what, €14?
(if you cancel the subscription within a month)

Is that worth your time? Which is more valuable right now, time or €14

Just pay and move on

[wooden totem]

moldy image

[lethal parrot]

just did

[shadow loom]

[lethal parrot]

Now i have acces to the hackbox but i still have no idea what im doing

[shadow loom]

Well that's one problem solved then. Progress 😄

[lethal parrot]

glass half full

[shut hawk]

wait are you using the THM attack box to access HTB labs? lol nvm I severely miss-read the situation, ma bad

[normal fable]

Doing a learning room?

[lethal parrot]

yeah

[supple tangle]

you can get some help in #room-help if you get stuck

[lethal parrot]

thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @supple tangle (current: #1422 - 2)

[wooden totem]

double edited, so sorry for you loss

🙏

[split compass]

When your Lenovo comes back let us know and we can help you get a VM of your own going.

[white forum]

And if you really want to save time, learn nothing and get it out of the way just google it and you will find the exact answers lol

[shut hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/no-family-guy-bad-dog-newspaper-peter-gif-8108196576766934699

[shadow loom]

T-49 minutes

[normal fable]

Don't tell people to Google the answers. That's not learning..

[white forum]

😂

[lethal parrot]

I had some like a year ago on VMware

[shut hawk]

amen

[lethal parrot]

some kali linux and windows 10

[white forum]

He said he just needs to do it to get into his class

[shut hawk]

😭

[lethal parrot]

you think i havent tried😭

that was the first course of action

[split compass]

But one in those classes, the skills taught here well be helpful. 👍

[white forum]

Lmao

Definitely

[lethal parrot]

true

[normal fable]

Read the material and do the steps. The answers will come.

[lethal parrot]

Thanks everyone big help!

[supple tangle]

good luck

[normal fable]

As long as it's not a private room you can always ask for help in #room-help too.

[supple tangle]

i just bought the sub today too

[lethal parrot]

yeah its made by the school so i think private

[normal fable]

People will nudge you in the right direction. 😁

Ah. Probably.

[lethal parrot]

So the mission is to see the username and password and theyve give me all these tools for password cracking like hashcat and medusa. do i have to like put commands in there to get it

sorry for asking so many questions but i feel like this stuff is in another language

[shadow loom]

They are tools yes, so it depends on the situation

The right tool for the job and such

[lethal parrot]

so if i want to find the password i have to use a password cracking tool correct?

dude this is question 3 out of 6 they start talking about root flags in 5 im so finished

[crude stump]

We can’t help with school work sorry

[shadow loom]

Bit unfortunate to get started on all of this just now then

[lethal parrot]

does anyone know of a discord server that does

[crude stump]

🤷‍♂️

[lethal parrot]

well then

thanks

[crude stump]

What class is this anyways

[lethal parrot]

what do you mean

[lunar flint]

Hey everyone

[crude stump]

Nvm

[lethal parrot]

its to get into college

but i want to learn cybersecurity there i dont know stuff yet

[crude stump]

You gotta take a cybersecurity test to get it o collage?

[crude stump]

I’m confused because you said this

[lethal parrot]

its europe probably a different school systems might not be college idk how to explain

[crude stump]

Is this truhackme?

[lethal parrot]

yeah

[crude stump]

Ooooh

We can help with that

[lunar flint]

I enrolled in the Jr Penetration tester path on THM and I’m currently in the File Inclusion room then I think there may be a small syntax error in the room

[lethal parrot]

hell yeah

[lunar flint]

If there’s any admin in this server that could go and tell me if I’m right

[crude stump]

#room-bugs

[shadow loom]

Your generic question "do I need a tool that cracks passwords to get the password" can be answered: the answer is perhaps. To crack a password you need a password hash or a password protected thing like a pw protected zip file. If you have a hash you can use hashcat. To bruteforce a password you can use a tool like medusa.

But like... You're in for a long and painful night if you wanna do this room/challenge before your vacation, it seems. You've still for a bit to learn to comfortably approach it.

[lunar flint]

So it’s simple it’s just in the Local file inclusion the syntax is http://webapp.thm/index.php?lang=../../../../etc/passwd instead of http://webapp.thm/index.php?file=../../../../etc/passwd

[crude stump]

A root flag is a flag in the machine that you have to find

[lethal parrot]

What is enumeration?
Enumeration is defined as the process of extracting user names, machine names, network resources, shares and services from a system. In this phase, the attacker creates an active connection to the system and performs directed queries to gain more information about the target. The gathered information is used to identify the vulnerabilities or weak points in system security and tries to exploit in the System gaining phase.

Go to http://MACHINE_IP and start enumerating the website to find the publicly exposed credentials.

Answer the questions below
What username did you found?
Answer format: *****
Submit
What password did you found?

Answer format: ***********
Submit

this is the query

[lunar flint]

And normally if we trying to access a file it should be file not lang

[lethal parrot]

alright good to know

[crude stump]

Did they tell you how to enumerate

[lunar flint]

I been trying w lang and getting the same page w no difference several times before noticing the problem

[crude stump]

A website

[shadow loom]

"Publicly exposed credentials" sounds like you don't need to crack anything

[lethal parrot]

no just the explenation they give there

[crude stump]

Look through the website. It’s prolly hidden somewhere

[rapid merlin]

what room/path are you doing

[royal dragon]

Viewing source? That's illegal!

[crude stump]

What

Boy if you don’t

[shadow loom]

He's joking

😂

[lethal parrot]

its from my school private

[eternal timber]

Me when I speed through rooms and forget most of the content later

[royal dragon]

Sorry, tried being funny, failed apparently.

[crude stump]

Oh then nvm

We can’t help with that

Lmao

[lethal parrot]

dude

[crude stump]

Anything private we can’t help with

[rapid merlin]

Your school uses tryhackme?

[lethal parrot]

we were making such good progress

[lethal parrot]

its just to get in

[crude stump]

“We” we aren’t the ones taking your class

[shadow loom]

Can't you bring your laptop on your vacation so you can continue studying?

[crude stump]

That’s smart

[shadow loom]

Thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @crude stump (current: #81 - 80)

[crude stump]

Figure out a time when you can study. It doesn’t have to intrude your vacation

[crude stump]

Yw bribe

Birb

[lethal parrot]

yeah but its kinda heavy thats it

[royal dragon]

Figure out your priorities - what's more important, the holiday, or getting in to this course?

[crude stump]

https://tenor.com/view/vacation-gif-12253393920666896345

[split compass]

Back for a few, just catching up.
I expected a private room given the purpose.
But yeah, like I said, hints are a thing.

I choose to bring chonker laptops with me everywhere XD

Previous laptop is a 17" Gaming laptop with a 3060 in it.

New one is a 16" Framework with a RX7700S init 😄
(Previous is going to get wiped and handed down to my nesting partner)

I just find 5lbs isn't enough to keep me from wanting to have my laptop wherever I am.

[sand trench]

and finally shadow is feeling like using ublock origin hard mode

[split compass]

I've got ublock, priv badger, and ghostery all running...
And thinking about setting up a VPS with pihole on it 😄

[vital maple]

Hello guys i just joined and am very interested in learning about ethical hacking what should my 1st step be joining here?

[crude stump]

#start-here

[split compass]

After the start-here, if you're still not sure where you want to start.
Shadow's recommended order list is pinned.

[shadow loom]

I read "RX7700S init" with a London accent and immediately my mind went "I dunno fam, fr no cap?" 😂

[split compass]

I wonder how many shadows they have absorbed.

[royal dragon]

bruh

[sand trench]

ghostery shadow thinks if they recall correctly got bought
priv badger is discontinued by EFF but can still be used but is not as good anymore
ublock origin is super powerfull if you set it a bit more agressive then very easy mode and go to easy mode

[vital maple]

Ok thank you

[split compass]

That's fair, I missed that space hard.

[split compass]

Did ghostery get bought? I'll have to look into that.

[sand trench]

if you wanna read up on how to turn ublock origin even better: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode

[rapid merlin]

Hello

[sand trench]

recommend easy mode for most people

[rapid merlin]

Hi who wants to do koth w me ? (Im new sorry if its not the channel for this)

[sand trench]

as it requires very little tinkering to get things to work

[sand trench]

probably more luck in #koth channel but it is not wrong to ask here

[crude stump]

If you /verify you will have better results in #koth

[crude stump]

😠

[split compass]

LOL you're fighting with a decker mate.

You'll never be faster.

Shadows the best chummer we got.

[sand trench]

[split compass]

One of these days I will do the whole wearable PC thing.

[sand trench]

for super portable stuff shadow just uses their dragonbox pyra or openpandora

[oak river]

Does bleachbit help shred files so that they are unrecoverable from the system?

I'm asking, cause I will be giving away my laptop

And I will be preinstalling it, but I've heard that files are recoverable even after deletion

[sand trench]

think it has an option to do that yes

[sand trench]

also yes but most people are not savy enough to do it

[split compass]

Do you know what brand and model of SSD you have?

[oak river]

Give me a second

[sand trench]

but if you are going that route dban is generally the recommended tool

[split compass]

Bleachbit may be unnecessary if it includes a secure-erase feature.

[sand trench]

assuming HDD:s

if it is an ssd just format it and then execute a trim command after basic setup

[split compass]

If HDD, then yeah, dban is the classic.

[oak river]

It's an m.2 ssd

I think a samsung one or kingston

[oak river]

What is a trim command?

[sand trench]

generally if you run the trim command after formating it nukes the data

[sand trench]

basically similar feature to hdd defragment but for ssd:s.... speeds them up a bit but also makes deleted data generally unrecoverable

[oak river]

So defragmentation helps in data removal?

I thought it is a process to refreshen up the memory space a bit

[split compass]

Because SSDs store data different than HDD, TRIM will remove any reference data for where to pull cells from to get info off the device.

[sand trench]

https://superuser.com/questions/1403762/permanently-deleting-files-on-ssd

[sand trench]

no it does not but trim kinda does

[loud marlin]

run full disk 3x time with 0... will be ok to not recover nothing

[sand trench]

the problem with writing that to the disk multiple times with ssd:s is it slightly lowers their life span

[loud marlin]

indeed

[split compass]

But a lot of modern SSD mfg are encrypting your drive transparently.
When you format it, they scramble the key, they don't actually format anything, because disk writes are considered destructive on SSDs.

[loud marlin]

ssd is bit fragile in that area

[split compass]

So you can "secure erase" an SSD in microseconds effectively.

[loud marlin]

nah... it takes time

at last full disk encryption, the part of going full takes around 30ish min for 512gb

[sand trench]

format
install something using luks full disk encryption
write data to full disk
format
install what needs to be used
move on

[split compass]

We're talking about two different things here.

[oak river]

Another thing: Debloating Windows

Does OOSU10 help a bit?

[sand trench]

please don't

[oak river]

O&O ShutUp 10

Does this app help?

I notice it could crash the system

Or make it's behavior errory

[sand trench]

debloating windows generally disables a lot of security features and sometimes updates
if you can't see the issue with this eeeh

[oak river]

Yeah, I guess you are right

I had installed copilot on my windows, but now I uninstalled it

Not that I was planning to do much with it

But I can use copilot on edge

Damn Im at work tommorow

I don't wanna go...

[sand trench]

haha superuser site is broken mess for shadow now:

this is what happens when you block all 3rd party

[oak river]

Im very happy with my brand new laptop

It has some AMD Ryzen 7 AI processor

[split compass]

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/magician/

If it is Samsung, I'd just use the secure erase feature here, their software knows which of their drives can do the fast method, and which take longer, and have the tools and techniques for doing it.

[oak river]

I don't really get the AI part, but I think it helps to manage tasks better

[split compass]

It has NPUs (Neural Processing Units) in it that will make AI software tasks that are programmed to use it better.
Those tasks are very very few and far between right now.

But they are also just a more energy efficient chip than the previous gen overall, so yay.

[oak river]

VLC media player is better than the normal windows player, right?

[split compass]

I feel that is true 😄

[sand trench]

yes for a few reasons

[split compass]

Alright, image attempt number 2 done, rebooting, let's see if my boot media works this time.

[sand trench]

open source
huge plugin support
can play webpage videos in it using urls
can automatically look up subtitles for what you are watching based on title or hash

[split compass]

And that's just scratching the surface 🙂

[sand trench]

yeah it is one of the most feature complete media players

to the point some people call it bloated

[lethal parrot]

I keep getting an error response does anyone know what could be the cause? the error code is 405 im trying to go to machine_ip

[oak river]

Just made vlc player my default media player

I wonder if there is any point in Winamp

Since VLC can play music too, or no?

[sand trench]

https://http.cat/405.jpg

[loud marlin]

since done of time

[royal dragon]

Oh god

[wild rose]

https://tenor.com/view/winamp-audioplayer-la-le-lu-gute-nacht-musik-playlist-gif-27329986

[sand trench]

http.cat for the win

[oak river]

This is a yes?

[lethal parrot]

yeah thats what it says

[sand trench]

probably still starting up then

[lethal parrot]

like loading?

[sand trench]

unless you are sending post requests to something that only accepts get requests or vice versa

[sand trench]

yes like loading

[eternal timber]

Am I supposed to be remembering all the content in the rooms

😣

[lethal parrot]

im typing http://machine_ip and getting that error

[oak river]

Should I daily TOR browser?

[sand trench]

nah you are meant to have learnt how to take good notes and be able to refer to those at a later date

[oak river]

Lol

I like firefox most

[sand trench]

oooooh... you need to hit the green start machine button

[oak river]

Also librewolf seems nice

[loud marlin]

no

[eternal timber]

I see. Thx

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #3 - 1836)

[oak river]

Why not? Anonimity?

[loud marlin]

tor is not created for tings like that. as much is safe in same way is not. and there is no need for that kind to use it daly

[oak river]

Firefox and Edge it is then

Firefox is slapping me hard with their lack of vertical tabs

[sand trench]

TOR wants users to use it as a daily driver though

[supple tangle]

duckduckgo is ok

[loud marlin]

ff.. no edge

[sand trench]

that way there is more users to be hard to destinguish between

[oak river]

I use edge for work and studying

[lethal parrot]

thats the same as start attackbox right

[sand trench]

no it is not

[eternal timber]

No

[royal dragon]

That... is amazing.

[oak river]

Firefox needs vertical tabs and I don't know what I need to do for mozilla to finally have them

Not a plugin

But native vertical tabs

[supple tangle]

you can use tree style tab plugin

[lethal parrot]

is that other button in attack box or in the room

[sand trench]

think those are comming soonish in official builds

[normal fable]

We found some 90s tech in the attic.. lol

[oak river]

Im officially abandoning other browsers once they do that

[sand trench]

see that it is in the task list... the one marked with a green thingy next to the task open button

[oak river]

Btw what do you think of librewolf?

[sand trench]

floorp is good in the meantime

[sand trench]

a mess as it does not handle some use cases shadow wants

[lethal parrot]

omg

ive been on this room for 2 hours

[sand trench]

and totally missed the start machine button??? yeah happens a lot to new to the site people

[oak river]

Should I encrypt one of my drives with veracrypt?

[supple tangle]

no worries you got this

[molten sky]

i'm a fan for simple things

don't use it often tho

[lethal parrot]

Thanks man

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @supple tangle (current: #1073 - 3)

[sand trench]

if it is removable drives shadow would recommend it

[molten sky]

i'm interested to see if ladybird goes anywhere

not that i'd use it necessarily, but interested

[sand trench]

yeah ladybird is interesting

as it actually has a shot in bringing in a 4th web engine

[rapid merlin]

@lethal parrot what problem are you having rn

[oak river]

Not removable

[sand trench]

linux or windows then???

if linux use luks

[oak river]

Windows

[sand trench]

if windows use bitlocker

[oak river]

I am Home

Version

[sand trench]

aaah

[oak river]

I have some encryption though

Which is odd

[molten sky]

if windows use linux
therefore if windows use luks

[shadow loom]

Smells like an all-nighter to me

[sand trench]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rapid merlin]

Have fun learning @lethal parrot 😏

[oak river]

Goddamn it sucks to be the only IT guy for a whole country on a certain thing

[lethal parrot]

im learning something but more stress than fun lol

[oak river]

Everyone's gonna blame me and cry to me

But as one of my experienced best friends says, just ignore them until they fire you

lol

[rapid merlin]

Are u in pre cyber security path? @lethal parrot

[oak river]

Do your job and let them cry

[lethal parrot]

i need to do this room to get into a cyber security course

but i dont know anything yet thats why i applied for the course

its a vicious oroborous

[oak river]

Also, should I use thunderbird?

Instead of windows mail

That comes with windows

[rapid merlin]

I’m ngl. I did pre cybersecurity with 2 months of knowledge. So I get why u don’t know some terms

I did google cyber security certificate course

[sand trench]

or catch 22

[shadow loom]

I have a feeling that the room sets the level of the course though, so even if you do get through it you may wanna brush up before the start

[oak river]

My plan is CCNA -> Security+, Pentest+, Server+ -> OSCP/TCM Security

[sand trench]

would recommend thunderbird but it has a differnt workflow and different ecosystem and workings for how to use it effictively

[rapid merlin]

@lethal parrot what course are you going to take

[split compass]

tor browser only keeps you anonymous if you allow it to.
Daily driving it greatly increases the risk that you will leave breadcrumbs in places you don't mean to.

[lethal parrot]

its a 2 year associates degree

[rapid merlin]

@lethal parrot we in the same boat 😁

[shadow loom]

OSCP is recognised all over the world. TCM's "certificate" is not.

[oak river]

Just need to check and delete emails

Or download attachments

[rapid merlin]

I’m also doing associates

For cyber security

But most likely going to go for bachelors

[sand trench]

eeeew email attachments

[lethal parrot]

nice

2 years more

probably too

[sand trench]

well shadow is gonna go into uni and no clue how well it is gonna work out

[shadow loom]

Part of me misses being a student

[oak river]

What do you miss most?

The fun, people and free time?

[clear jackal]

TCM does provide certifications.

[shadow loom]

Nah, the feeling of "studying to become something/somebody"

[clear jackal]

Not saying you're wrong about acceptance, just clarifying that they do provide certifications.

[shadow loom]

As I wrote

[oak river]

OSCP is more legit

.

[shadow loom]

As I implied

😄

[oak river]

Yes.

What is a good alternative to windows photo viewer?

[royal dragon]

Anything

[shadow loom]

Lol

[oak river]

E

Give example?

[supple tangle]

irfanview

[shadow loom]

Aight bed time... Gn people

[nimble mulch]

big money can be made as good hacker write to me privately

[split compass]

xnViewMP is good, but I think it's free, not libre.

[sand trench]

@hasty sand check this out

[shadow loom]

Your DMs are disabled. 😂😂😂

[royal dragon]

LOL

[nimble mulch]

Now

[hasty sand]

Don’t write to him

[loud marlin]

lol

[nimble mulch]

Hahaha why