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whole yew
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Not really - I would very hesitate before describing a pentest that way. There's a lot of risk in a pentest, and calling it that sets an expectation that the environment is protected if the pentest doesn't have any serious findings

devout palm
whole yew
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Won't happen until it costs more money to not have a pentest done. Such as: wanting to go public and have an IPO. Publicly traded stock in the US has to obey regulations that require internal and external pentest.

whole yew
devout palm
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Depends on how big the company is too. Big companies attract big threat actors.

whole yew
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So convincing a company that doesn't recognize why it's important is basically a huge waste of everyone's time. If you don't have buy in, it's not going to be productive.

sick lance
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Pentests only test the current security.

If you make a change based on the pentest, you'll probably get another pentest done with those security precautions

whole yew
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Right, but the risk of a big company being compromised is very very different than a startup which doesn't have any money and doesn't collect anything except device data and registration info

devout palm
whole yew
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You have to educate your employees on good practices anyway. It's an actual compliance requirements for every frameowrk I've ever worked with.

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And education on security doesn't do anything for the argument supporting a pentest. If the business unit says no, it's not going to happen.

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Also doesn't address any of their questions about getting a pentest approved.

devout palm
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He did

frosty lava
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Why can't CTF's prepare you for real world engagements? I would imagine CTF's would require the use of certain tools like Burp Suite or Wireshark.

I was told earlier that CTF's don't really count as "experience" that I can note on my resume.

Thoughts? Advice?

devout palm
sand trench
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there is also the point of ctfs using more gamey things then real life senerios

devout palm
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And real-life systems act different sometimes.

sand trench
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kinda as there are senarios where sqlmap fails

gray sonnet
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Anywho, goodnight THM 👋

sand trench
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good nighty nights mr vain of the xploits

naive violet
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What's your threat model here?

woeful lily
naive violet
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Well, what are you concerned about people finding? What are you trying to protect against?

scenic pawn
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hello guys,i was just starting out trying to learn about cyber security,but it made me wonder,is it easy to get a job for that?it seems really advanced and like it is only a job for people with many years of experience not just 1-2 years

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because i guess only big companies will hire someone for their online security

halcyon comet
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ik

woeful lily
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so now i wanna make it highly so he cant @naive violet

naive violet
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You distributed javascript code and someone copied it?

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Don't distribute it then

woeful lily
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but how do i obfuscate to high

naive violet
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Obfuscating it isn't going to do what you want it to?

woeful lily
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alr wrd

cloud walrus
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can i ask if whene im complete the tryhackme courses is thats enough to have good skills in cybersecurity?

scenic pawn
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ic,so if i study for a year is it possible to get a job if i search in less than a month?i dont ask for crazy salaries,1k or less for part time works out.Or i will need luck to find the right contacts to hire me?

naive violet
cloud walrus
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like in web pentesting

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yeah to be capable to do the hack boxes practises

mossy river
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Lets hope my phone doesn’t die on the train or else I’m going to be trapped

scenic pawn
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sorry 1 more question.if you were starting rn and wanted to get a job asap in like 4months or so,what path would you choose?and is there a job simillar to cyber security that you could find a job faster?something that the IT skills could help you so you could learn both at the same time?

sand trench
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from there you could branch into sysadmin or soc

scenic pawn
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i see so everyone starts from there and its pretty quick to get into.helpdesk is a job big companies and internet providors hire?sorry i am a bit lost only reason i want to get into this is because it seems fun and i can work from home

cloud walrus
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thats good man im obsessed wiht thats domain tryhackme is going to help alot and thank you man

twin ridgeBOT
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Gave +1 Rep to @shut raven (current: #400 - 12)

gritty fern
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Yes its a great hobby

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Only thing you need is a computer and internet

devout palm
scenic pawn
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i see,tyvm

sand trench
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helpdesk pays well and teaches you tons of useful skills

devout palm
sand trench
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but it is a customer service job meaning a lot of people gonna hate how it feels to do

devout palm
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But you need to spare some time to learn cyber security

scenic pawn
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thats fine,i am famous for my aphasia xd,no way i will get angry talking to customers or something like that

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and ye ofc i will spend time learning,just paid for the courses too,i just want to know my targets before i start

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ty all for the advices

devout palm
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Yeah, I would recommend taking notes as well. It helps memorization after not studying for a long time.

gritty fern
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Notes are very essential yes, much easier to come back to notes than to redo a whole lesson

scenic pawn
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after i grasp a general idea of what is what i will definitely start over and keep notes.i didnt take notes the first time that i watched a 15 hours video and now i barely remember the basics so ye..

livid nexus
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At what level do you guys recommend before starting capture the flags

sand trench
livid nexus
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Also how much is premium 12 Euros a month

gritty fern
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What are the withdrawal symptoms lol

livid nexus
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I'm planning to buy premium when I get my paycheck

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I know its cheap but a ghota do it this way

gritty fern
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Well at least you are

scenic pawn
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stop paying for netflix and disney plus and you are good to go xd

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i keep paying those when i dont even watch a movie per month -_-

gritty fern
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Isnt Netflix like $14 a month now?

scenic pawn
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if it is i am definitely stopping it rn hahaha

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i havent checked in 2 months

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but it was ike 9euroes when i last checked

gritty fern
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Its $7 if you are ok with ads

scenic pawn
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it hasnt shown me any ads i think..

gritty fern
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Yes its $15.49 here

scenic pawn
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but ye thats definitely what i would pick

solar echo
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Hello.

scenic pawn
solar echo
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@gritty fern are you 0xD?

gritty fern
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Im 0x3

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Why?

solar echo
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The color of your username is the same as 0xD.

gritty fern
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Yes

livid nexus
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What does that mean? 0xD

gritty fern
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You can check my roles though lol

gritty fern
sand trench
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yeah the colors for some of the early levels are eeirly similar to late levels

solar echo
jovial musk
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didnt optional also have BUG HUNTER?

solar echo
solar echo
scenic pawn
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what are these levels?do they go along your level on the site?

livid nexus
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I want to buy premium so I can continue my journey in Linux I'm really enjoying it

solar echo
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Those two attributes are awarded to him by the THM staff.

mossy river
gritty fern
sand trench
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0xD meaning 13 in hexadecimal

scenic pawn
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i dont think my account is connected to the site..xd time to do that

mossy river
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We have plenty of people with the bug bounty

jovial musk
sand trench
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but not plenty of people with room tester???

gritty fern
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Bug hunter is just people who have found vulnerabilities in the THM site correct?

solar echo
gritty fern
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Hes not

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Jabba just said that

mossy river
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Room tester is a discord role, not a site role 😄

sand trench
sand trench
solar echo
sand trench
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it is not a higher level then 0xD

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you can have level 0x1 on the site backend but have bug bounty/hunter anyways

mossy river
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Technically it is

sand trench
mossy river
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No your level is a higher number

solar echo
mossy river
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Like how mine is 998 because I’m an employee

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I am higher than level 13

sand trench
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by that logic the red teamer or lucky or pentester roles are the highest level

sick lance
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997 for contributer. (Ninja is the only one I know)

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Technically they are.

mossy river
scenic pawn
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where do i verify?xd

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cant find it lol

sand trench
sharp citrusBOT
sick lance
solar echo
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@mossy river question: is the % of the top ranked persons based on active users or total users?

sand trench
sick lance
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Active.

mossy river
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I forget how many points it is

solar echo
sand trench
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more then 1

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less then 20 000

mossy river
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Once you become elegible for top %

solar echo
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Yes, uhm. Let me rephrase that, I know that there's a certain amount of points for that.

mossy river
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You’re always included in the total

solar echo
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How many users in THM total right now? I could only know about the 3 million mark.

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and if it's really 3 million the my ranking is wrong.

gritty fern
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3.2 Million

sand trench
mossy river
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Only once you’ve earned a certain amount of points you’re included in the top %

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So there isn’t a way to know how many users are in it

sand trench
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but once you earned said certain amount do you stay in the top list forever or does it throw you out eventually is what fwnction is asking jabba

solar echo
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The % math isn't mathing...

gritty fern
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Top 6% is in the top 18%

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Still correct

solar echo
shell nova
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as mentioned earlier, the baseline for the calculation is not 3 million, but a good deal less

solar echo
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Here, a more succint explanation.

solar echo
gritty fern
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Jabba told you thats wrong bro

shell nova
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yeah but for the purposes of the top %, a threshold is needed to be included

solar echo
boreal scarab
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shell nova
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that includes total users

solar echo
boreal scarab
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CVE-2024-0762

gritty fern
shell nova
gritty fern
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Roughly 2/3 of users arent included in the calculation

solar echo
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Interesting, so I am top 18% of a X portion of users?

gritty fern
uneven swallow
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197970/1070000 = 18.5%

shell nova
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the portion of users with the minimum required points to be included in the leaderboards

solar echo
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It's okay, you can definitely choose to ignore that.

solar echo
twin ridgeBOT
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Gave +1 Rep to @shell nova (current: #12 - 582)

gritty fern
shadow loom
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member when top 1% THM required literally just to sign up and do one room?

shell nova
mossy river
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Was this really a thing? Lol

The top % system isn’t really that new

solar echo
shadow loom
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one room was exaggerated but yes

shell nova
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I mean maybe in 2020 🙂

shadow loom
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I think it was back when it counted points against all members and not just those who had been doing a few rooms

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yes, back then

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it's been a while KEKW

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Back before THM switched to using green colour schemes

solar echo
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Alright, guys, I need to get those 200 points to get to 0x7 now. Cya.

shadow loom
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and before the tryhackthebox.com domain drama

shell nova
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glhf

mossy river
shadow loom
shell nova
shadow loom
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xD

mossy river
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I must’ve been out of the loop

shadow loom
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im sure

shadow loom
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was a good laugh

shell nova
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trolls be trolling 😉

devout palm
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Lol

sand trench
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aaaaaaaand nvim config added

gritty fern
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We engage in a moderate amount of tomfoolery

sand trench
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git submodules are neat

shadow loom
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this ^

shell nova
sand trench
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wait wha?? why???

shell nova
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there's an entertaining exploit involving submodules and symlinks

shadow loom
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and always the centre of debate at my office

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ISTG

shell nova
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and they're a pain in the arse to manage

sand trench
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.gitmodules file

shut hawk
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git blame

shadow loom
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now try updating main repo and 2-3 sub modules at the same time

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lots of juggling

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xD

shell nova
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yeah but they aren't automatic, and maintaining them on a large project is evil

sand trench
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shadow uses them in their dotfiles repo

shell nova
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whatever works for you

shell nova
sand trench
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git add --patch is amazing

shell nova
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pretty sure I saw a git yolo around as well

sand trench
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wait git yolo???

shell nova
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commit to master with a random message from whatthecommit and force push

sand trench
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not git yoyo???

shell nova
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nah, yolo

high mulch
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git make --sandwich

shell nova
high mulch
shell nova
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that was poor taste, and you know it

sand trench
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yeah

high mulch
shell nova
sand trench
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just try and ping everyone on here

high mulch
sand trench
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create more work for the moderation team

shell nova
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please don't

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well, I'm not unmuting you if you do

wooden totem
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its like a 5min mute

high mulch
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Nah, I can be civilised. Sometimes...

shell nova
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it's indefinite

wooden totem
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Wrong memory

sand trench
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shadow triggered it by trying to show the at here

high mulch
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Nah, plus I can't be a troll to hydragyrum, just look, a cute flying dragon :)

shell nova
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also a bad idea

sand trench
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❯ bat --color=always --style=plain --pager=never .gitmodules
[submodule "zsh/.config/zsh/powerlevel10k"]
    path = zsh/.config/zsh/powerlevel10k
    url = https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k.git
[submodule "alacritty/.config/alacritty/themes"]
    path = alacritty/.config/alacritty/themes
    url = https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty-theme.git
[submodule "tmux/.config/tmux/tpm"]
    path = tmux/.config/tmux/tpm
    url = https://github.com/tmux-plugins/tpm.git
[submodule "nvim/.config/nvim"]
    path = nvim/.config/nvim
    url = git@github.com:shadow-absorber/kickstart-modular.nvim.git
high mulch
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Man... this leg-day session workout left me exhausted, and dizzy... But anything to get the Greek God yams.

tidal quartz
high mulch
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Well, I don't use any substance, so I won't get the huge legs. lol

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And no, I like my John to be just like it is :P

tidal quartz
high mulch
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I used to be tempted, maybe when I was 18-19. But I left that behind. I've been working out since I was 15. It's been a journey, all I can say lol

shell nova
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let's avoid questionable tactics 😉

tidal quartz
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Sure is, for all. Good to hear you left those thoughts behind though

high mulch
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I used the legal stuff, creatine, pre-workout, and all that stuff... but it just was not good for me. So I've stuck to simple coffee and eating well.

gritty fern
tidal quartz
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Use arch

gritty fern
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Not happening

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I will dual boot linux mint and windows though

tidal quartz
scenic pawn
gritty fern
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Dang

tidal quartz
gritty fern
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I mean thats why i run, for the dopamine

buoyant tree
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and turn On the RGB

gritty fern
gritty fern
buoyant tree
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even a 2$ one is worth it

scenic pawn
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it is not something to judge about,everyone has things that likes to focus on their lifes.If you wanna be the best footballer or bodybuilder thats fine.using anabolics in most sports is illegal anyways.what i hate is people that just start out with gym or kick box and shit and first thing they do is go buy protein,creatine etc without even knowing how it helps etc

buoyant tree
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Although I would recommend going for one around 10-15$~

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which fit's your hand movement size properly

blazing granite
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I hate RBG, all those colors, keyboard with sound and light I hate those things 😂

buoyant tree
gritty fern
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I like clacky keyboards

buoyant tree
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Also Rex did ye see the vid I sent

blazing granite
buoyant tree
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and it look's cool

tidal quartz
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So cool

blazing granite
tidal quartz
buoyant tree
tidal quartz
buoyant tree
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or when I need complete darkness for something

tidal quartz
buoyant tree
tidal quartz
buoyant tree
buoyant tree
tidal quartz
tidal quartz
buoyant tree
tidal quartz
buoyant tree
high mulch
tidal quartz
high mulch
tidal quartz
wooden totem
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All RGB lights I have are static on 255 255 255

tidal quartz
wooden totem
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Nope

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I like mixing white and black

tidal quartz
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I cant picture this

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Youre on a mission to make me epileptic

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Cant allow that

gritty fern
high mulch
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for me is rgb (157, 8, 1)

tidal quartz
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I genuinely wonder how many people actually use light themes

high mulch
tidal quartz
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No way

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HOW

high mulch
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Okay okay, to code I always use dark themes, but to read articles or even THM, I've used light themes.

tidal quartz
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I got to get some sleep. Leaving for vacation tomorrow and i got to wake up at 6am

buoyant tree
wooden totem
high mulch
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I used to use the THM dark theme, but found myself enjoying the light theme way better, since I can clearly read.

wooden totem
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But I dont like sleep

high mulch
wooden totem
scenic pawn
wooden totem
high mulch
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My room is dark, yet light mode doesn't bother me.

buoyant tree
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Dark mode always.

high mulch
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I mean, I mix both, dark mode and light mode in between. Depends on the mood.

scenic pawn
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discord needs new background colours :/

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both dark and light mode are bad...they feel so boring

high mulch
gritty fern
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Mobile has the midnight version

wooden totem
scenic pawn
mossy river
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Come on Portugal 🇵🇹

high mulch
scenic pawn
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no way i spend money for a change of colour in a chat xd,who does that

crude stump
wooden totem
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Free themes from "name I can't say because mod something something":

scenic pawn
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i am too stupid to understand what you trynna say betta but i think i agree

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a kali theme would be dope though

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that dragon seems sick

warm terrace
scenic pawn
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lets forget de bruyner being always with 1 foot in the grave missing half the matches and go to my dump question.should i learn wireshark or malware?i want something to be reading for fun while i do the boring path of starting out the basic courses xd

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what seems more interesting and useful?

mossy river
high mulch
bold sierra
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hey i was reading about file inclusion and i would like to know more about types of traversal where can i find it as i am not able to find it just by typing types of traversals

gritty fern
bold sierra
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same

bold sierra
twin ridgeBOT
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Gave +1 Rep to @gritty fern (current: #227 - 24)

gritty fern
# bold sierra same

https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=007930462003869053427:vyjggrsucq4&q=https://owasp.org/www-project-web-security-testing-guide/v42/4-Web_Application_Security_Testing/07-Input_Validation_Testing/11.1-Testing_for_Local_File_Inclusion&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiq4YPs7oaHAxVnq4kEHYl1AiQQFnoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1kgXQGrav2HAhJvY-lcCPl&arm=e&fexp=72519168,72519169

WSTG - v4.2 on the main website for The OWASP Foundation. OWASP is a nonprofit foundation that works to improve the security of software.

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Oh that looks horrible

bold sierra
wooden totem
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Cant you cut most of the link out and it will still work

gritty fern
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Yeah i just copied from the OWASP search result

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Magic

jagged moon
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Good idea is to look for file inclusion in sections of the application where logically dev could include something

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Can be deduced by params, functionality, etc

gritty fern
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Oh and a cool and slightly related topic is command injection for anyone who hasnt read on it

jagged moon
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Shit like /index.php?page=contact

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Page param would be prime target to try it

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Also i hate this waf

wooden totem
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Ebook better

bold sierra
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How will we know what functions cause the type of traversals for different types

jagged moon
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I call it "suss sense"

bold sierra
jagged moon
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With time you'll be able to look at functionality on the app and have a good idea how it could be implemented

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Which gives you leads on how you could try to subvert it

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Tl;dr knowing how people build things or how things work immensely helps with breaking those things

bold sierra
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ok

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hey @jagged moon what advise would you give me for OSCP

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how should i persue it

jagged moon
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Take breaks

bold sierra
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have you done this from Offsec

jagged moon
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What do you mean

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Only offsec administers oscp examination. There is no choice here

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OS stands for offsec there too

bold sierra
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nothing i was just looking at ur profile and saw that you have oscp and i was also thinking of getting the cert too so i asked what would be the optimal path of learnig the content and then passing the exam.

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as i have heard that it is hard

jagged moon
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Oh. It is challenging. But not really

bold sierra
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how long it took you to complete it.

jagged moon
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Difficulty comes from time constraints and stress. The vulns themselves are easy.

bold sierra
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ohh

jagged moon
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If you have developed a methodology during the course you'll be absolutely fine with navigating it

bold sierra
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what topic covered the most of the exam

jagged moon
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It's pretty evenly paced. You can check the syllabus on offsec com. It's public

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IMO the course teaches you everything or most of what you need to pass the exam

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Or rather course and pwk labs that come with it

pallid lotus
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Methodology not so much

jagged moon
pallid lotus
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Yessssss

jagged moon
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And after that you kinda ready

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So yeah. Totally doable with just pen-200/pwk if cyber is not totally alien to you

pallid lotus
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It is entry level 🤷‍♂️

jagged moon
bold sierra
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what u think it's an AI

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No problemmo

pallid lotus
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Well that's creepy chceyes

jagged moon
pallid lotus
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I mean, for what purpose would you want an AI which displays sexuality, if not for purposes which are inherently creepy?

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Originally, why?

jagged moon
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Lmfaoooo

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That's one way to put it

pallid lotus
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That's going to differ on a per-country basis I'm afraid

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I can only talk about the UK, which, as Fluff has pointed out, is not even in the EU anymore lmao

shut hawk
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Quick PSA: frontend development SUCKS and my full condolences to anyone who has to do it 🙏

pallid lotus
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Well for a start it ain't in the EU anymore, so if you're EU based then free movement isn't a thing now.
Job market is reasonable though. Pretty much all of my cohort at uni walked into cyber jobs -- mostly SOC Tier 1

normal fable
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I know a couple front end devs.. they are champions.

jagged moon
shut hawk
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i have been overhauling my blog

jagged moon
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That's skill issue, my friend!

pallid lotus
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Heh. What framework did you go with?

pallid lotus
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Like, give me a drawing I'll give you an app

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That's easy

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But making it look good? That's hard af Kekw

twin ridgeBOT
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Gave +1 Rep to @pallid lotus (current: #9 - 774)

shut hawk
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https://skii.dev (mods please don't ban me)

it's a very WIP, the main template has been kindly stolen copied, but trying to make all the miniscule changes are a PITA!

also ignore the no banner image....and the broken social links....and the broken 404 page...and the broken syntax highlighting

Skii.dev
Skii.dev

Something you probably haven't seen before

normal fable
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I'll give you a flow chart that is completely wrong and you can give me an app that works they way I think it should. kekw

pallid lotus
jagged moon
pallid lotus
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How much front-end are you having to code?

pallid lotus
shut hawk
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okay listen I'm manually editing the HTML/CSS theme files OK

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then I have to run npm build everytime

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god save me

pallid lotus
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Oh my God you absolute nutcase

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That is

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No wonder you're struggling

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JFC. That's not front-end dev, that's active psychological self-harm

shut hawk
crude stump
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This is interesting

jagged moon
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Much better experience than ai helping with code

pallid lotus
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Ooooooh, it even gives you React?

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Now that I like

jagged moon
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Because visuals are tougher to fuck up inguess

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Than business logic

shut hawk
jagged moon
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Figma just released shitton of ai tools too

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Magic

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That's basically ideal usecase of ai for me. Something I can't reliably do myself because i have no taste

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So I can't iterate

pallid lotus
shut hawk
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am fine with making it public tbh lol

pallid lotus
shut hawk
#

do you know any AI tools to generate pictures with the same art style of a picture you feed it?

shut hawk
#

does it offer student discount

pallid lotus
#

God I love students. So predictable 🤣

pallid lotus
jagged moon
shut hawk
jagged moon
#

Go be adult already!!!

shut hawk
#

last I checked it was only GPT-4 that supported it 😢

shut hawk
jagged moon
#

If u pay for gpt, you get dalle too

shut hawk
shut hawk
pallid lotus
#

OpenAI sub is worth it imo

#

For all it spews out crap a lot of the time, it's an awesome productivity tool

jagged moon
#

This one has free tier

shut hawk
#

Whoop W

jagged moon
shut hawk
jagged moon
#

And naturally gpt can do all this too. Just may be less effective

shut hawk
#

How many prompts you get with that

pallid lotus
#

Think unlimited without a sub as well, tbf, just worse models

shut hawk
#

Oooh fluff, you know how we're besties right....?

jagged moon
#

Free is like 16 per hr or something

buoyant tree
#

Nop not unlimited without a sub

#

Even on the lowest model

shut hawk
#

Dammit autocorrect

pallid lotus
#

Or that

autumn citrus
#

Hey everyone! How's your day going?

shut hawk
autumn stratus
#

hi im stuck

shut hawk
#

hi stuck

jagged moon
#

Up to 5x more messages for GPT-4o

pallid lotus
#

I have yet to hit it, and I grill that poor robot quite intensely every so often Kekw

jagged moon
pallid lotus
#

LMFAO

autumn stratus
shut hawk
autumn stratus
#

I mean i stuck on something

jagged moon
pallid lotus
#

Please tell me you can give the AI a nickname

#

Please tell me I can call it Artificial Idiot

jagged moon
#

Yes you can enter the special instructions in the settings

shut hawk
#

I think you can give it a global prompt so you could probably tell it to

jagged moon
#

Can tell it to refer to itself like that

shut hawk
pallid lotus
jagged moon
#

Mobile app

pallid lotus
#

There's a mobile app?

#

TIL

shut hawk
#

wait

#

it's 12:11?!

jagged moon
pallid lotus
#

No thank you Kekw

jagged moon
#

Like you know. Hey google thing

#

Or hey gemini or whatever they have now

pallid lotus
#

I don't use that either

shut hawk
#

My uncles "Hey Google" went of at a funeral

#

That was the last time he had it enabled

jagged moon
#

Oh my goood

shut hawk
#

night!

jagged moon
pallid lotus
shut hawk
#

a sane one, barley

#

remember I haven't hit the uni stage just yet

jagged moon
pallid lotus
#

You have any idea how many ChatGPT windows I have open on my phone?

jagged moon
#

Exactly

#

Go get the app

#

Just make sure it's official one and not backdoored shit XD

night prairie
#

I wanted to start using obsidian, any tips on organising notes?

#

i feel like my name wasn't yellow before

normal fable
#

You're 0x9 now

jovial musk
#

Yea

normal fable
#

I use Trilium so I don't know much about obsid.. I'd say just do like a tree type note taking system.
Just do whatever makes sense to you really though.

jovial musk
#

I AM a 0x7 idk why it doesn’t change my name

normal fable
#

Takes time to update.

jagged moon
#

So research that. There are like million productivity channels videos on youtube about zettelkasten and double that for zettelkasten on obsidian

#

Try it. But don't force yourself into it. It's a tool, so it should work for you, not the other way around

#

If that doesn't click, find what works. And a tool that is good with what works

#

In my case that's hierarchical notes and trilium

#

Beware of productivity black hole tho. It's easy to get lost there and never come back while also not getting anything done except for your productivity setup

autumn stratus
night prairie
# normal fable You're 0x9 now

i've been for a year now i think xd, i might have had server booster role or some other one before which is why the colour feels different

night prairie
twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @jagged moon (current: #13 - 579)

normal fable
#

I don't remember. I kinda feel like you were diff color too.. but can't really remember. lol

night prairie
jagged moon
#

Yeah we have a trilium cult/gang

night prairie
jagged moon
#

Trying to find perfect one

night prairie
#

literally me searching trilium rn

jagged moon
#

And may be difficult to stop

night prairie
#

was using notion before this

#

notion was completely fine tbh

#

free sync too

jagged moon
#

All of them have pros and cons

#

Find what works and stick with it

night prairie
#

Gonna look into trilium a bit before comitting to one

jagged moon
#

I was using notion too, but i want self hosted solution

#

So i trilium

sand trench
#

fluff fluff fluff

#

did you see that trilium is in maintance mode???

buoyant tree
#

Doeos Triliium require port fowarding?

sand trench
#

unless you are talking about hosting it on a server at your home or in the cloud

jagged moon
normal fable
#

Trilium made more sense to me coming from Cherrytree.

buoyant tree
sand trench
#

shadow is trying to setup obisidian with a neovim plugin to basically use neovim to write all the notes

sand trench
jagged moon
#

So all notes from all devices sync at home

buoyant tree
#

Eh just debating if I gotta set up tailscale for it

jagged moon
#

When i am out, it just saves everything on my laptop for example. In the offline copy

#

When it's back in home wifi -- it syncs

sand trench
boreal scarab
buoyant tree
boreal scarab
#

@jagged moon

buoyant tree
jagged moon
#

Doubt you'll have conflicts if you are the only one using it

buoyant tree
jagged moon
jagged moon
#

Never happened to me

night prairie
jagged moon
night prairie
#

i did like the idea of self hosting it for syncing tho

jagged moon
#

Also tux wrote a script for migrating from notion

boreal scarab
#

Did someone say Trilium? 👀

night prairie
#

Oo that's useful

#

i'm almost certain i already downloaded trilium once a year ago or smth

boreal scarab
#

Muiri, shoo. You made birb brain mush

pallid lotus
#

Will be all fine

pallid lotus
boreal scarab
jagged moon
#

K i go bed. Or I'll have a very bad day tomorrow

pallid lotus
#

Sleep well!

jagged moon
#

I been sleeping terribly because of the heat lately

#

Not fun at all

night prairie
#

Goodnight

sand trench
#

well shadow is neck deep in a well trying to figure out secure boot on arch linux

night prairie
#

Seems to be dying down now, rained quite a bit today as well

jagged moon
#

Deutschland

night prairie
#

ah

jagged moon
#

But same thing. Dropped to +20

#

Still. House is still warm

boreal scarab
jagged moon
#

Built to retain warmth 😦

night prairie
#

Can't seem to find any releases

jagged moon
#

Don't build it

night prairie
#

Isn't this one different to the one on TriliumNext?

jagged moon
#

I have it in docker as a server. And client from AUR on arch. And installed from deb on kali

jagged moon
#

For now use maintenance release

#

They just started to organize, so nothing there yet. But star it or something

night prairie
#

ah okay, thanks

jagged moon
#

There will be a time to move some time in the future, basically. When they release first major changes

night prairie
#

I starred it for now, I'll keep a look out for that

boreal scarab
#

Fluff, go bed

pallid lotus
boreal scarab
#

Ok

#

I just woke up from a nap though, mmmm. Naps are great

pallid lotus
#

Heh. Perhaps I am not so old

#

I can't remember the last time I napped

#

Or slept more than a few hours at night for that matter lmfao

rotund jacinth
#

funny how i agree with both statements: "naps are great" and "cant remembter last time slept more than a few hours at night"

pallid lotus
#

I suspect both naps and sleeping a good 8 hours at night are probably quite good for you

#

But who has the time

rotund jacinth
#

real

sand trench
#

what is sleep

#

do not wake up
wake up
wake up no more

rotund jacinth
#

woah bro where that from

sand trench
#

well it is altered lyrics from some popular pop track

#

anyways it is now past 02:20 so time to head to bed for the meepy moopy sleep sloop to the beepy boopy

boreal scarab
rapid merlin
#

hi

buoyant tree
pallid lotus
boreal scarab
boreal scarab
buoyant tree
#

Jayy usually fixes things

boreal scarab
blazing granite
buoyant tree
boreal scarab
buoyant tree
boreal scarab
molten sky
#

considering adding signal to the fedora repos
50/50 shot i regret trying to do so

boreal scarab
#

Is it nap time again?

slow helm
#

hey guys

#

is there an easy room

#

i can have fun with

boreal scarab
slow helm
#

there is no room

#

named searchlight i think

#

sorry i found it

#

thank you

boreal scarab
slow helm
#

but still need it

jovial musk
#

does anyone know of a good yt video where i can learn all linux controversy?

umbral bay
#

Use the Navbar search on the site to find rooms. 🥳 @slow helm

jovial musk
#

or at least most of it

#

i just want a "history of the entire controversy" yt video i can fall asleep to

clear jackal
boreal scarab
slow helm
boreal scarab
slow helm
twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @umbral bay (current: #16 - 459)

slow helm
boreal scarab
#

Totally not getting everyone to learn OSINT for for my master plan

slow helm
#

bro knows everything

slow helm
slow helm
boreal scarab
slow helm
#

general

#

mastering osint

#

is a scary thing

jovial musk
boreal scarab
#

My ass will be sitting in Recon Village for HOURS at DEF CON

slow helm
#

i searched it up

#

and i think

#

i discoverd new check point in the matrix

boreal scarab
#

They are basically the OSINT village

boreal scarab
buoyant tree
#

I just opened up my email 4 times because I was thinking I didn't open it then at the home page of my email I opened another tab for my email thinking I didn't open it

slow helm
#

next level

normal fable
#

Back in the early win7 days.. my mom kept clicking internet explorer asking me why it wouldn't open.. Matt has a image of what happened. 🤣

buoyant tree
normal fable
#

Welcome to Next Level Tech Support.

buoyant tree
#

Alt, you work in a big or small tech support company?

crude stump
#

Call center

boreal scarab
#

What'd I break now?

normal fable
#

I work for a global org..

jovial musk
crude stump
buoyant tree
#

that's a city

normal fable
#

If you live in a country... We probably have a presence there...

boreal scarab
crude stump
normal fable
jovial musk
#

its a city where there are a lot of scam call centers @crude stump

crude stump
#

Oh wait

buoyant tree
buoyant tree
boreal scarab
crude stump
#

Oooh

normal fable
crude stump
#

Global org that’s cool

#

Non profit?

jovial musk
#

i work for myself

#

me, myself and i

normal fable
#

I recently searched up an issue and found a stack overflow that... I had answered.. with the solution...

jovial musk
slow helm
#

do u work in a call center ?

crude stump
#

No lmao

slow helm
#

t

crude stump
#

Why

slow helm
#

nothing

buoyant tree
crude stump
#

Ight

normal fable
#

It was a headdesk moment...

slow helm
#

if i have bright future @umbral bay should respond

#

else

jovial musk
#

@slow helmhi

slow helm
#

i'm fucked

slow helm
jovial musk
#

what distro do you use

jovial musk
#

whats young boi?

slow helm
slow helm
jovial musk
#

idk, what is young boy

slow helm
#

young man

jovial musk
slow helm
#

miss typed

slow helm
jovial musk
#

omg

#

ong?

#

swear it on your homie

slow helm
slow helm
jovial musk
#

pinky promise that you use ubuntu

slow helm
#

i can share you screen

jovial musk
#

yeah im kidding

slow helm
#

wait i'll send a cap

jovial musk
#

do you like it more than kali?

slow helm
crude stump
jovial musk
slow helm
buoyant tree
#

oh it's a VM

#

who uses discord in a VM

slow helm
slow helm
#

to take a sceen shot

molten sky
buoyant tree
#

oh k

slow helm
#

bro i use windows

molten sky
buoyant tree
jovial musk
#

@molten sky kali or ubuntu

slow helm
jovial musk
slow helm
#

they both do the job

jovial musk
#

yeah but kali has all tools preinstalled

molten sky
jovial musk
#

and neatly organized

slow helm
#

he is jk maybe

molten sky
crude stump
#

Never heard of a osint before

jovial musk
#

i cant have both

molten sky
jovial musk
#

wait nvrmind

#

for testing

#

whats the best distro for pen testing?

molten sky
# jovial musk i can only have 1

i'm biased against ubuntu but would still pick ubuntu over kali if i could only use one as a daily. you don't NEED kali no matter what people tell you

crude stump
normal fable
#

What's osint?? kekw

jovial musk
#

for his life

molten sky
#

everything that exists on kali you can install yourself on ubuntu or deb (or other)

crude stump
jovial musk
#

young buck

#

i assume you meant young boy

crude stump
#

No

jovial musk
#

anywho, whats the best distro for pentesting?

crude stump
#

It’s lingo for a deer

jovial musk
#

oh sry

crude stump
#

A buck

jovial musk
crude stump
jovial musk
#

no

crude stump
#

There’s your answer

molten sky
#

there is no "best", really, but kali is the industry ("household") name, and the company that handles OSCP/etc. all these are though is just x distro preloaded with tools you can get anywhere else anyways

jovial musk
#

best is what you guts tell me

crude stump
#

Yeah there’s a lot of distros

jovial musk
#

guys*

crude stump
#

Test them out

molten sky
#

the real utility in distros like kali is just being able to build and tear down quickly. but if you aren't tearing down, there's no reason to [use it]

crude stump
#

See what you like

#

Thing is you can download tools on Ubuntu thus making it a “pentesting” distro if you really wanted too

jovial musk
molten sky
#

nuke from orbit

jovial musk
#

wdym

molten sky
#

get rid of

#

discard

jovial musk
#

ooh i see

molten sky
#

kali is a disposable os

jovial musk
#

understood

#

i agree

#

i concer

crude stump
#

I kike Kali

jovial musk
#

that is currently in my knoledge

crude stump
#

Plus are you a beginner Alex?

jovial musk
#

not with programming, a bit with linux and yes with cybersec

molten sky
#

i very rarely use kali myself tbh, only when i need something quickly and don't wanna set things up on a new vm

jovial musk
#

what do you use for pentesting @molten sky

molten sky
#

fedora and whatever tool suits what i'm tryna do at the time

crude stump
#

Kali is great. Imo for beginners. It has all your tools there and easily accessible

#

But

molten sky
#

ehhhh

crude stump
#

No

jovial musk
crude stump
#

For a pentesting vm

jovial musk
#

cuz red hat

crude stump
#

I thought that is what we are talking about no?

molten sky
#

i agree that it's great for learning tho (in a vm), especially because of all the tutorials built around it

jovial musk
crude stump
#

We are talking about daily drivers now

normal fable
#

Fedora is not bad

crude stump
#

Bruh

jovial musk
#

i have a second laptop

#

that i have kali rn

#

but its not for a disposable thing

#

cuz ima install it and leave it

crude stump
#

Scrap what I said then. Kali isn’t good for a daily driver

normal fable
#

Any distro is what you make of it really

#

Kali is best as a VM

molten sky
# jovial musk ive heard fedora is bad

not really ---- redhat put a bad taste in people's mouths after their bs pushing people to use centos then killing it off blindsidiing people, but the product itself is fine. just that event annoyed people

jovial musk
#

aight

#

so for my second laptop

#

what distro

crude stump
normal fable
#

Deep dive and do LFS on hardware like I did. kekw

crude stump
#

That’s what I was originally talking about

jovial musk
#

@crude stump but for my pentesting laptop

#

what best distro

molten sky
#

honestly just throw a few on a usb stick and live boot em and see what feels right
deb, fedora, mint, etc. also worth considering desktop environment if you wanna get more in depth, like I prefer KDE nowadays

crude stump
#

Thing is personally if I’m pentesting I would use a vm with Kali

jovial musk
#

i dont have a vm

#

just a mac and a chromeobook, im tryna see what to install on the chromebook

jovial musk
molten sky
#

might be able to load a light vm on the mac but the chromebook is not gonna work for that lol

crude stump
#

I’m no help in that matter then

jovial musk
#

it actually shot it from 100 to 96%

molten sky
jovial musk
#

dk what that means

#

okay

#

wanna get in a call @molten sky

#

and il try all the distros and make my choice

crude stump
#

Trying all the distros is gonna take time

jovial musk
#

like 1 hour

crude stump
#

Good luck

jovial musk
#

you guys can come and go in the call if you want

umbral bay
#

Trying all the bistros > distros. 👌

molten sky
#

i'm a lil busy over here already 😂 just popped in while waiting for builds

#

bistros >

jovial musk
#

who here can get in a vc

crude stump
#

What’s a bistros

jovial musk
#

i dont wanna sit here in silence

crude stump
#

Never heard of that

molten sky
crude stump
#

Oo

molten sky
#

A bistro is defined as a small, casual restaurant with a relatively inexpensive, simple menu. Though often a French restaurant, it doesn't have to be, and not every bistro serves French food.
@crude stump

jovial musk
#

@crude stump hop on a call

crude stump
jovial musk
crude stump
#

Have you seen castaway

#

That’s what I was referring too lol

normal fable
#

Wilson!!!

crude stump
#

Yess

jovial musk
#

aight

#

what order do i try the distros on

normal fable
#

Yes

crude stump
#

Yes

crude stump
jovial musk
#

which one goes first

crude stump
jovial musk
#

is ubuntu good?

crude stump
#

Yes

molten sky
#

eh

normal fable
#

Yeah it os

molten sky
#

i no like

#

but it's fine

jovial musk
#

whats better

normal fable
#

Mistyped but.. accurate

jovial musk
#

debian or ubuntu

buoyant tree
#

oi Verum, u got a CVE?

jovial musk
#

like discovered one?

molten sky
#

debian is more stable but ubuntu is more up to date

#

(debian has a much slower release cycle)

jovial musk
#

what do i go with

buoyant tree
molten sky
jovial musk
#

wdym by got

normal fable
#

Arch.....

jovial musk
#

arent they public

jovial musk
#

i like apt-get more than i like pacman

molten sky
#

reason being, you want to withold disclosure until a patch is deployed (so people can't abuse it right away)

crude stump
#

Also a patch right product

#

Aye

jovial musk
#

got it

#

ubuntu and debian both use apt-get right?

molten sky
#

Si

crude stump
#

Yall should listen to always by Bon Jovi

#

Song is awsome

normal fable
#

I started with Slackware.. 1.0..

molten sky
#

ubuntu is built on top of debian, for that matter

buoyant tree
jovial musk
#

aight

#

vote:
😎 for ubuntu
🐱 for debian

crude stump
# buoyant tree send link

It might be a little slow to you but https://youtu.be/9BMwcO6_hyA?si=Qf3Rv6fSuyDJdcaO

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jovial musk
#

STOP

#

please i need a decision

normal fable
#

You can't stop the flow...

slow helm
crude stump
#

Also another great song is angel by Aerosmith

jovial musk
#

@slow helm say a number, if its odd il go with one if its even il go with another

molten sky
#

ubuntu is probably the better desktop experience coming into things

jovial musk
#

if its 0 il ask another person

crude stump
molten sky
#

although i realllllyy hate gnome

slow helm
molten sky
#

no idea what the default desktop env is on deb nowadays. anyone?

slow helm
jovial musk
#

aight im installing ubnutu

#

and im not calling it ubuntu

#

im calling it ubnutu

slow helm
buoyant tree
molten sky
#

ubyountu

crude stump
#

Idk for you but every single damn time k try to make a Ubuntu vm as it’s downloading all the important software it stops

crude stump
#

Do you like rock kinda?

jovial musk
#

im doing it

#

does ubuntu support plasma 6.1?

molten sky
slow helm
#

it's plasma aghain

#

again

jovial musk
#

dont judge me

molten sky
crude stump
buoyant tree
slow helm
molten sky
slow helm
#

whats KDE

chilly cove
#

When you learn there's more than two ways to open up task manager -mind blown-

molten sky
#

https://kde.org Desktop Environment

KDE Community
Home

KDE is an open community of friendly people who want to create a world in which everyone has control over their digital life and enjoys freedom and privacy.

slow helm
#

bro is speaking spanish or somthing

buoyant tree
#

Game or movie right now