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nice
hello i would like to know how to do hacking and stuff
You can have a read over #start-here to learn some ethical hacking.
france >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No fast track this time 🥴
Hello, I have a question on my mind. I am new to the world of Networking. One of the first things I started learning is Network Devices.
The device through which we connect to the ISP, what is its exact name? (((The most common device found in most homes)))
It performs the function of a modem, and it performs the function of a router.
Is it at the same time a switch because it contains several ports?
Or it could be a router and it contains several ports
And is it WAP?
Or it could be a router and at the same time we can connect to it via WIFI
Firstly, I know that this device has the function of a modem and a router at the same time, but can it also be WAP and Switch at the same time?
Or Can it be a router and perform the functions of WAP and switch?
If no, What is the name of this "multi-function" device!!
what ride is that?
Hyperia
The newest one?
They're just called routers or modem routers
We integrate so much
Correct
Oooo, the queues must be extensive
2 hours we got here and went straight in
Ride was cancelled twice due to weather
Back on now though
Yes, they call them routers, but that is wrong and makes things confusing
As you said, its name is modem router, or router modem, or may gateway
But what I want to know is, does the router perform the switch and WAP function!!
It's not wrong, it's colloqualised.
It's simplified for consumers, and like "sticky tape" becomes "sellotape"
Look at this paragraph
I couldn't send the photo because I haven't verified my account yet here
Question for someone:
Which device connects a network to the Internet?
This is the answer of someone who seems have a experience:
Generally speaking, you need a device to convert your ISP signal into a data stream. That device is a modem. Then you need a device to send the data stream to the proper devices on your network; a router.
Since you specify a network, I assume you already have a switch which connects the various devices on your network together. And you already have a router to control the switch. You may also have WiFi Access Points to connect devices to the switch.
Usually, a residential internet service provider (ISP) will provide a single device that contains a modem, router, switch (often 4 port), and WiFi Access Point. Some people incorrectly call this device a modem or router, which just makes things confusing.
So the answer to your question: If you already have a functional network- that has a router and switch- you need a modem. If the ISP provides the “multi-purpose” device, you can eliminate your router and switch, and use what the ISP provides.
Perhaps because the most popular product currently available is the router modem. Most homes use this device, so they started calling the device a router, because the modem is no longer present in general.
Yes, and they're non technical
The difference simply does not matter to consumers
It's pedantic, really, to take issue with it
Technology gets oversimplified in this way all the time
Rain, it was so bad I am completely drenched
Oof typical
@naive violet you are right
holy moly! where is this?
Thorpe Park UK
Thorpe park is probably my favourite park in the UK
Don’t come here often because it’s very far
im terrified to death of rollercoasters
Just remember, they are more afraid of you than you are of them.
@shut hawk that was WICKED. I was terrified and I’ve been on all the roller coasters in merlin uk
Smiler is my favourite
So that explains all the 🙂 uses!
💯
Damn, how long does the ride last? I've never been to Alton or Thorpe park lol
Never been Alton either 😦
That’s crazy
It was about 20 seconds but it felt loooong
45ye3458ug90uiwerb90uh32rwgn89h342rw8gh9234589h5g
sooo tired
and have to stay up for so much longer
Looks like an onion url
would be surprised if it actually worked for that
it is a random key smash
@naive violet ⬆️
Or just write your own paper 
Hey
:hammer: felixwriter#0 has been banned.
Changed
"how many badges do you want"?
> yes
I bought some cosmetic stuff for the profile
well no I know that part
I hate it so much 😭
It causes nothing but problems because people get mad about it for some reason
Oh it's a custom status. Been around for a while, I think
Ohhh I gotcha, my bad 🤣
all good
Yeah, I miss the "ditch skype, come to discord" marketing days
fr
now discord is worse in lots of aspects
especially performance since everyone just has to use electron
:)
You uh know you can get rid of a few of them?
Legacy Username, Hyper squad, Active developer badge for example
Did you see their latest developer terms update? I don't know how we're going to operate Dank Memer under it
I did not
I don't usually even keep up with discord nowdays
Truthfully, it's really the hypesquad events badge that makes people go "huh"
I grow to dislike it more and more as time goes on
ever since they went public it's gone downhill
not to mention discord sells your conversations to train llm's off of cough
but who isn't doing that nowdays :)
It was pretty recent, but they're forcing bots to do monetization through Discord while simultaneously shafting us on responsibilities and fees
Funny how it 404s when you click it lol
Pour one out for the hypesquad homies. Another failed initiative
yep
But with the quick maths, if I'm remembering correctly, if a user bought a $5 item, we'd see like... maybe $1.30 of it or something in that ballpark
Basically everyone else profiting off of us except us
yep
Hi ! Are there any tryhackme student discounts available?
there are!
use your student email for 20% off
We had to monetize it somehow, it costs thousands to run every month
thank you!
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It's a game bot though, so it's not like mee6 or something
THAT I agree with
and has lots of controversy
I'm just hoping discord dies in the next year or 2
new and better platform takes its place
just like discord did to skype
People are willing to pay 100's of euros for profiles with so much badges lol ||idk if tos allows that, but just a fact||
I don't, it'd put one of my best friends out of a job 😭
MSN > Skype.
Yeah, I still get DMs about it here and there
hello
for your friends sake I hope the next platform has a similar is not better bot system
but discord is just
so gross
on dev practices/overall decline
Yeah, if it does, I'm sure we can move it over. There were talks about it with Guilded years ago before Roblox bought them, but it fizzled out
but the real people to blame are the shareholders
anytime a company goes public you have 1-2 years before it sucks
Hello.
Hello.
this is why real homies use steam chat
Yeah, that do be the trend. That's what the whole developer terms update feels like. Investors saying "hey uhhhh pay us?" because they'll make a killing off of all the bot revenue by taking so much of it
yep
also discord ignoring the main userbase
whenever they make any changes
iirc isnt signal struggling a little bit too?
I know comparing apples to oranges but
@idle mica more indepth profile btw
the buttons for mutuals look different
I think so, that's why I throw a few bucks at them every month
I thought about swapping over to signal awhile ago
but the issue is you cant convince any of the friends to lol
Damn, I should ask them to put CASP+ and GSEC on there 🤣
also phone number
Yeah, that's the only reason I'm still on Discord tbh. All my friends are here and my community
Yeah
We were looking at making a community on matrix or something. I don't remember the name specifically, but it's more of a privacy-focused alternative
new day to study about digital forensics (although I've done this myself)
I see there is a new advanced server-side attacks module released. Is there any way to see this on the site (new releases)? I only know it's out because I saw on twitter, it would be nice if there was a way to filter ALL content by newest (like we can see newest rooms on the right). Maybe there is a way to do this and I just can't find it
Use the search
Ah I see
I see
Yeah I see now. Though it doesn't show the module
@idle mica nice to see you here.
I feel like that'd be a bit too much work for the average user
Bro 🤣
And yeah, what Hymnosi said. I don't know a whole ton about it besides it looking very interesting
yeah that's also fair
I think we were looking at a bridge to sync the two so people could still participate in conversations no matter where they were, but I think it'd be a huge pain
and then it's a game of convincing people to get to swap to it
well even then you have to be careful
you could take the minecraft example
even when hosting minecraft servers on your own hardware mojang still has a say in what is allowed on the servers and can ban you for the content
As I've gotten older, I've stopped caring as much. I just want stuff that works so I can focus on what I enjoy. Life is short enough as is and going full throttle with self-hosting and privacy stuff just wasn't worth the effort I was putting in
That's another aspect of it too
But Matrix/Element is pretty interesting regardless and I still wanna get to understanding it better
something something, confidentaility vs usability
yeah
I just wish people would take their privacy even just a little more serious
Yeah, I think there is a reasonability factor. Do what you feel is reasonable for you, sort of thing
like some people not turning off geotagging in pictures they take
I employ NextDNS, browser ad block, use better services, etc, but it's all stuff that isn't mega time consuming
then uploading said images to the internet
God yeah. Simple stuff that goes a long way
I'm starting to get worried about some things though
lots of people dont really understand how any of their applications or devices work
Lots of people just don't care though
Hey w33t 👋
Ah, could be good feedback #feedback-and-ideas
true but even just a base level could be wonderful
and could also help push for better consumer practices
yeah that's kinda what I mean
henlo
how're you doing today?
if they don't know then how could they
Cheers, I'll submit something
also true
I'm tired as hell because I keep staying up late like a dumbass, but otherwise I'm doing well lol. You?
Same, I hate it when they tag me in stuff
that's a fair point
most cysec people I speak to have a similar position on privacy - will follow basic best practices but not going to faraday cage their house and lower their quality of life because they know their data will always be collected, and even then they are a drop in the ocean and not that interesting
I have to do the same with a snapchat
you can take it to a super extreme level if you want to sacrifice QoL (imo), or you can just accept that you will never have 100% privacy if you're using digital products
I see a lot of people who are newer do that and I'm like "what threat are you protecting against??? Nobody cares" lmfao
Yeah, fun to think about for sure
"Yeah man, I watched mr robot, great show" 🤣
You are put into a database 5 seconds after you are born
being off grid is literally impossible in the modern world
"off grid" is the wrong term
you know what I mean lol
Yes, Sam Bent!!!
Fantastic talk, I loved it
Especially the part where he showed how he got names and addresses for sending his drugs out. The whole place cheered when it came up on the screen 🤣
For anyone else who is interested, it is a really good talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oeaBb85Xc
The hacking subculture's closest relative is that of the Darknet. Both have knowledgeable people, many of whom are highly proficient with technology and wish to remain somewhat anonymous. They are both composed of a vast amount of introverts and abide by the same first rule: “Don’t get caught." Both tend to love Sun Tzu quotes as well. What happ...
My sides 
Wizard convention
The way my hairline is going, I'm going to be in the same boat. A reddish beard and a football field sized 5head

Rolling out server-side ads is gonna really cuck all the adblockers
Definitely going to get a sub if that happens.
If you're not expecting messages, just block them and ignore.
Nobody is targeting you with Pegasus.
If you think pegasus is used on random members of the public...
Imagine burning zero day/no-clicks on the average public 
I can assure you they don't burn a multi-million dollar exploit on Joe Blow out in Arkansas.
I would avoid making claims without evidence, to be frank. If you do have evidence, it's your civic duty to become a whistleblower.
hey guys, I just finished intro to cyber security, could you suggest me as a beginner what learning path should I choose next?
much appreciated, thanks
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should've checked the pinned messages
They'd do a lot better than that
Toe beans
@idle mica hey
Hey
Hi, I have a question that "worries" me. Are products like this: https://www.vonahi.io/ going to replace pentesters / red teamers?
Especially in combination with AI in the future?
Good question
At that point its sort of a megatron
lol
just be an ai engineer and never worry about ai replacing your job
if ai will replace ai engineers - we're fucked 🤷♂️
And its very likely that will happen at one point
lol
Guys I've got a Kali VM running and I've performed a nmap scan. Why am I not making six figures yet?
I know the course I'm taking is called complete beginner but I already feel like a pro and I feel I should be reimbursed as such
You good mate?
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening beep boop
I thought I was funny but I guess not
Kind of
Its what much people really think
So I was wondering if you was serious or not
haha that sort of makes it funnier but yeah I wasn't being serious
Im just really enjoying learning all this stuff
while also being driven crazy when none of it works
Errrh, did you use four terminals? If not, then you cannot make 6 figures yet.
damn I'm only up to 2 terminals
That explains a lot
and that's just because I cant figure out how to get openvpn to run in the background
are you using chatgpt to finish the rooms for you?
Big toe beans
Try ctrl+c
That closes it.
He wasnt being serious xd
put the file on your Kali machine, remember the path you put it on. Run it as root or sudo
Not a good idea to background it, it makes it harder to troubleshoot.
Scrubzzz did you follow the context lol
Oh that's actually pretty clever
Other people read chat too, and they could be new, and they could try it.
And now you are here scrubz, im curious what your opinion on this is
That's fair. Im praying to never have to troubleshoot it though ^^
It's not just you two who can see the conversation.. 🙂
Yeah okay there you got a point
I'm not worries about it.
it can write decent code, sometimes.
Belkasoft X is a good Digital Forensics tool that has recently added in BelkaGPT that can analyze the evidence and make duecisison on what is what.
Which obviously has to be checked by a human so it eliminates the false positives, as LLM's won't have a good grasp on tone etc.
Mhhh, but something like the tool I linked?
It claims it can do the same as some OSCP / CEH pentester
Not setting the bar high with CeH.
I dont know enough about cybersecurity to comment on the details but I've worked at places that would for sure buy a device like that if it were cheaper than contracting actually pentesters
OSCP and OSCE either
Companies not actually caring about the quality of their security, just being able to say that they've performed pentests to increase security
I don't think it will any time soon. At some point, maybe, but replacing a good red team operator with AI will be tough for the same reasons that fully autonomous vehicles that can make critical decisions are going to take a while to become mainstream
Last ride of the day 🥳
So they are basicly making false claims?
hyping a product.
Not inherently, but there is a big difference between red team engagements and pentest engagements
hi everyone i wanted to ask where can a person apply for work with your pen tester cirtificate?
lockheed martin is not interested in ics/scada red teamers ;(
Where do they claim to replace humans?
"Take advantage of the expertise of seasoned penetration testers without hiring one."
Even says on their website Backed by OSCP and OSCE certified consultants with 10+ years experience.
"vPenTest is equivalent to hiring a team of eCPPT, OSCP, and OSCE certified consultants with decades of experience and over 13 industry certifications to help you carry out a network penetration test with the click of a few buttons. Be Secure. Be Fast. Be the Hacker."
I'm assuming you applied?
How much experience did you bring?
And what was the level #?
If your goal is to drop onto the network and "hack all the stuff", like a pentest, then AI is starting to become capable of that but it is scoping and human business nuanced understanding that it lacks. Red team engagements are a game of chess, where you have an objective that you have to hit in the least amount of moves possible, which AI just... isn't there and won't be for a while
Outsourcing security functions is common practice. The 12 certification badges next to that statement weren't issues to a ML model
@idle mica I gotta ask..... anymore certs?
Like, that I've obtained?
Yah
nope, i checked a couple governmental companies, private companies and other companies. None of them had available jobs for industrial cybersecurity guys. I dont really understand how to find a job in the future if none of these companies need people in this industry
Does that apply to both red and blue team?
Can't you tell it it's limits?
I don't remember what you last saw, but I hold GSEC and this year has GRTP in July and then CRTO and CPTS towards the end of the year
Damn! 🥳
You mean because it can "remember" everything it get trained with? So it knows al the information from OSCP etc?
Sure, but there's always the risk of it not understanding the impact that something might have and executing a risky test that could lead to company downtime
maybe, i didnt see any job offerings in the ICS/SCADA cybersecurity industry, only for engineers
I mean, humans are the same way, but I just feel like there is a higher risk with AI
I just started "What is Networking?" section and there's an embedded video about it, can I skip it and just read through all the information inside or the videos provide more information which isn't written in the sections?
OK, I can tell you that isn't true. The roles may just be called something else. Also, getting hired off the rip as an ICS/OT Red Teamer just isn't going to happen.
Anyone got some good or decent intro to server videos they recommend?
I know threat actors don't care about business impact, but you still have to balance it with your testing
Humans have more control, but AI, it could end up bringing your network down
How does the hiring process work in that industry? Or if you're busy do you have any resources where i can learn more about this?
ICS/OT Systems are super fragile and the outcomes of errors can be devastating.
Not sure about that specific video but most of the videos I saw in the rooms I did were just people reading through the exact information you could read yourself. Ended up skipping most videos
cheers
In a lot of cases you're literally talking life and death
Interesting, thanks for sharing your opinions!
I also did a fast-forward and saw that they are reading throughout the information in the sections
Yeah, I've read some of the research that my company has done on it and it's scary as shit how fragile our energy grid is
Are you in school or at least recently graduated
High school, yeah
Oh, go to college
thanks 😭
You won't get hired otherwise. It's a contract requirement in a lot of cases for government/government contract world
are you screwed in this career if you haven't gone to college?
Not necessarily, no
I mean it's salesman talk but to anyone in a position to buy such services understands what it means. They're not making a claim to replace humans.
But a degree does help HR be comfortable with hiring you
man... I wish I could go back to hs time, with the knowledge I have now.
Okay that's fair, thanks
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From their perspective, why should they pay you the same as someone who went to college? We both know you might be more than capable of handling it and hell, even better than the guy who went to college because you had the drive to teach yourself, but that's just how HR sees it
wait, did you get rep from me thanking you?
I guess so 🤣 I forgot about that lol
HR = poopie heads
Yeah that makes sense, not having a degree makes getting your foot through the door harder and I'm guessing you might find a glass ceiling
The industry is starting to shift away from requiring degrees, but like Did You Google? said, companies like Lockheed have the pick of the litter, so you've gotta set yourself apart while also meeting their minimums, which will likely always be having a degree
Yeah, that's why I went back to school. Got a BS in cyber and am wrapping up an MS in cyber this month. Just a piece of paper to check a box, that's all
WGU is a great school for that too, if you're already in the industry
Dropped out of school way back when my mom died and I got a job in a warehouse, few years down the line I got compTIA+ and got a tier 1 support job
Now just trying to learn stuff I actually have fun with and enjoy
Oh damn, big congrats on that
Shoot dude, that first foot in the door with some sort of tech job is the hardest part, so that's great
Comptia CASP+ exam in 1.5 hours
Goodluck mate
I'm so done after this 🤣
CASP+ or the SecurityX beta?
Well it's not the official one
starting to really dislike college
First you pass college exam, then you get free voucher
Yeah I'd be tier 2 if I didnt move countries to follow my GF
Then you take the official CASP+ exam
why should I have to write essays on books when I should be learning how to write cve reports
Today is my college exam
Ohhh are you taking the WGU masters?
Yes
It was the fastest one available online.
I like to fast track things
6 months to a full masters.
Agreed, that's where I got my BS and that's the MS I'm working on now
That's the best you can get anywhere in the world.
Capstone just moved in an hour ago, I'm pumped
how fast did you guys get the BS at WGU?
hey guys just started learning about networking and i got some questions
Why would you use/buy a switch if all of its functionalities is usually already integrated in your router?
Heard somewhere that a WAN can be a VPN? Isn't that contradictory? since WANs are used to connect LANs, (so basically local ip addreses from different routers for example, right?) while VPNs encrypt your data and hide your real ip and connect you to the internet
Trying to get an entry position with a masters won't be easy
I did mine in 3 years since I had medical issues, two spinal surgeries, and much else.
I could have done it in a year otherwise.
Not all vpn is used for encrypt
Encryption
Damn, I hope the spine is doing better. And impressive how quickly you're getting through that stuff
Yeah, walking into it with experience is kind of a must imo. It's designed for people who are already in the industry, but those who aren't already can do it
Current resume
But it took me a couple of years for somewhat similar reasons. This MS will be a one term degree for me since I transferred in about 4 classes
I'm not looking for a entry level position
can you elaborate please? even if it doesn't encrypt, how could a wan be a vpn?
Same
aight guys, this was my first time interacting properly with this community, it was fun getting to know you guys a lil bit. Gonna try to pull myself together and finish off the room I'm on. Cheers!
same. Cheers, mate (:
@sick lance I broke OpenSUSE... err well, grub2!
It's funny, I wasn't expecting to meet someone on such a similar path. Good luck with that D488 exam today! I think you'll knock it outta the park
BTW, I am looking for a sales person. I need someone to get clients and sell services for my business, and we can work out an operational contract on how we partner up. You bring in the business, I do all tech work (for now). Message me if you are interested.
https://www.hashsecurity.net/ Any comments about my cybersec biz website? Any advice?
@mossy river I need you to get your family members out of my yard - the bunnies are eating the buds off my flowers before they can bloom
Just make sure you have a lawyer on standby. Personal consulting can get ugly when shit happens and it isn't even your fault
T-3:16h
@idle mica gonna be active here for next 30 days
!
Listen here 🤣
Yea, I'm here!
I don't have much msgs here so Now, it's gonna be too many.
bro has the same role color here too.
It is infectious lol
you hire ppls?
hire me ngl!
you gonna have too much money
!
But hungry >;(
there is an entire field of grass right next door, they don't need to eat my flowers
That’s like eating the salad on the plate that has a steak
boo that man
what is the minimum requirement to play king of hill.what are the required skill
You need to go to your profile and change your skill level
/r/manage-account/account-details
Thanks for looking. It was a typo. I fixed it
https://www.hashsecurity.net - any other advice/tips?
ip grabber, trojan installer 👿
O_o
Well, I'm laughing my ass off at what my old co-worker just told me. Love it, love it, love it.
Hey, this is illegal, and against our rules as such, we don't discuss it or help users with these sort of topics. This is a server that partners TryHackMe
Tech who took my job is leaving, after a short time being there 
That makes roughly 6 techs leaving under management issues within 3 years. Other management team? 1, 1 whole tech left.
I only log error log, I don't even keep access logs. No ip recording either.
I respect your privacy!
This is just me being super nitpicky, but if you have the SVG for the logo, maybe throw it into Canva and get equidistance on the lock between the H and S. Seems a little lopsided https://m.w33t.io/5p6zZ7D2+
How did you guys learn ad pentesting any tips or beginner level rooms
GOAD is a great way to get hands on
Ok thanks
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Any intro to server vids anyone recommends? Professors are making me fall asleep
https://www.whiteoaksecurity.com/blog/building-a-test-lab-for-pentesting/
I always love linking this, to whoever wants to setup their own lab
Otherwise, read some red team notes blogs or other related info. I'm sure THM has some AD abuse rooms you can leverage, too. Reading up on Kerberos and how domains work will help a lot as well
Oooh I need to check that out, thank you!
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You're welcome! Plus side to that setup, if you just want your VM's talking to each other, and not the internet, knock off internet in CentOS with 1 command, the setup will still be routing network traffic internally
"I always love linking to this"
You could probably type it blindfolded now
Probably


Don't know how many times I've link that, let's find out!
Laying in bed, air typing 🤣
You're too slow.
12 times
Internet Explorer.
I'm on mobile!
All I hear is excuses.
We can just make a really old PC into our Guinea pig if we have one?
Technically, but that guide is for VM's
So if your laptop supports VM's, yes
2010 or so for virtualization extensions?
Ages ago
2009 possibly for server models
Still in line 😔
Operational problems
Ahh gotcha
That’s a stop watch 😄
I've timed my time on the phone before because I wanted to throw it in someone's face 🤣
Oh you said in line. Why did my brain think "on the line". I hate dyslexia
Anyone going to Defcon?
Hello all. Any Kali/openVPN users on thm that are enjoying the experience more than the attackboxes? I’d like to hear more about it before switching. Any security concerns?
Run it in a VM and turn off the VM when you're done. Shouldn't have any issues.
Hi all. Can anyone please point me toward mobile pentesting resources on THM if there are any? Much appreciated XD
They closed the ride
Lmao
Sorry, I blue screened the ride, they couldn't get it back in operation
I have seen you before
"How many password you want to get into your system?"
5
Password to decrypt the system, password to unlock grub2, password again to decrypt, password to login to account, and password for root to do anything in OpenSUSE
(This is a VM to test hardening, not bare metal)
he broke the VM...
Again
Yes, again 
Grub2 password works now!.... it's just, black screen
question, How much time does it take to google "BSOD" if your computer's entirely shut down

Idk, I don't fix the BSOD issues 
Also, after a VM reboot, VM works again, with grub2 password working 
Hii, welcome. You can read #start-here to get an idea. And my suggestion would be taking notes
Welcome. Have fun, Google everything, and ask questions here to get more specific answers 🙂
ok thanks
Ooo! Yes! Good point! Microsoft CoPilot and Google Gemini both do a good job.
Chatgpt can teach you stuff wrong
I would use it to correct things and similar tasks but not to teach me new things
best PC setup??
Yeah, they made the free version so stupid lol
the one that works
didnt know software development requires high-end pc components
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Hm? what country is that?
russia
hmm
Depends on what software but you won’t need anything too amazing
I passed
Now I get voucher for CASP+
Yay.
Only capstone left, then graduate with Masters!
🙂
I'm connected to ProtonVPN using the OpenVPN App on Win11. The connection is active but chrome doesn't use it. Any idea how to change that?
(Neither does FF)
Yayyyy
I need to start using Windows more.
I use it in VM for gaming and development. I just don't use it as a daily driver desktop.
I don't know much about Windows security really
Only linux
not even macOS
Many clickity clicks
I need to learn more windows and mac. I can make a windows VM..
I hate clicking.
Even my WM is fully keyboard controlled
I’m gonna miss the football eeee
is it over?
Solved. Had to disable IPv6 in OpenVPN
You can't double up on VPN
I'm not. This is the only VPN on my host.
@terse edge please.dont self advertise.
We'd prefer if they were kept to #resources with some interaction
What is that we can share and can't share?
Well I was talking about my dev career earlier and the context was knowing linux more than windows or any other os. It wasn't without it.
Self advertising would be if I were selling something or if I were to gain something from someone of value.
Yeah, but everyone posted their own stuff they wrote in general, gjere wouldn't be much talking done
Which is why I'd like to know exactly how you classify self advertisement so I can be mindful
You don't need to make money on something you're advertising
I thought you did. Either that or gains something of value.
Otherwsise it's not 'ad' vertising.
Sharing is sharing. Advertising is advertising.
Well when you have a minute, please clarify it so I'm not confused anymore
I don't want to self-advert out of order or out of place inappropriately.
Because I do like to share things and be social
Also earlier I asked about opinions on my business website and Jabba commented, advised, I made site a bit bettter, fixed some isues. etc. even that wasn't an issue. That wasn't even considered self advertisement.
If me sharing my business website isn't advertisement, then surely some cod eI wrote isn't advertisement.
And Jabba is the Admin here.
You're interaction with the community is high, the major issue is using #general to post what you created, if you could use #resources that would be better, and don't over promote.
We have the "no self advertising" for newer members who just dump their githibs and go
That makes sense.
Yeah, Jabba is one of 3 administrators, but he is the community manager.
It takes a while to get to know people and make friends.
Yeah, chat is harder also as you can't tell the tone somethings are spoken in, so it's hard to pick who is being sarcastic and not. (For some people)
So true
Which are why tone tags are great


Hoping people use them though.
Staying at Flamingo again? 
Ii never stayed at flamingo :3 I don’t like that hotel
The mature thing to do online, is not read tone, because you can't. You don't have that information. On a textual medium, you read things in your own voice, in your own manner, and never in the voice or manner of the person actually saying something. So be extremely careful how you read things online. Always give benefit of doubt.
Yes, it depends on the situation
Already booked your trip though? I won't ask for your hotel. I know your opsec 👀
I have to constantly remind others that when they read online, they read in their own voice in their own head. Not in the voice or tone of the author.
People read things online, and instantly get triggered, then try to come after you because of it.
My vacay is approved :3 my hotel booked. Working on flights
Noice. I got pre reg done, doing hotel today, flight still gotta work on
I’ll prereg after flights. I can still cancel the whole thing
Feath3rz is pre reging?
No 10 PM line con?

I’m still hopping in line at 10pm-12am
The line community there is smol but proud and we have fun. And the goons bought us pizza once
But you in pre reg line
Yep. There’s still a line
No communicating with dirty non pre regers lol
Last time we were right next to each other
You and I or linecon peeps?
Also if you haven’t stayed up and bonded with those people then it might be difficult to understand. But it is like a fun slumber party and everyone naps or brings games and stuff
Easier said than done when we've historically relied on tone as a society lmfao
That's why I try to call people to resolve shit because it's so easy to have a negative mindset and let it influence perceived tone
I got on pre reg line at around 5 AM I believe last time, didn't talk much with each other, but through the beach ball around lol
Yeah :3 you saw the regular line con. Not the slumber party
@idle mica
Peeps in HTB chat calling ya out if ya haven't seen it 
"Damn, w33t is speedrunning name colors! Dude went from Neon Green to Blue to White in the span of about 48 hours!"
Certified unicorn
Y'all got sleeping bags there?

Gamestop camping out
LMAOO
Putting it on my resume lmfao
You can. People bring whatever. We brought a giant cat squishmallow last time. It was maybe 3-4 feet tall
Yeah, I got removed for 30 days because I fell for that clown's bait and didn't restrain myself
Daaamn
A friend couldn’t find us and so we raise it up high and told him we’re by the cat. And they immediately knew where to go lol
Gonna try to hit guru before I come back so I'm orange 🤣
Wall o text
Exactly. Which is I why I eat a mushroom every day.
Super HCBros.
Sounds like a great name for a CTF team lol
LOL
enoki are tasty
I like the Cubes
Super Hash Bros has got to be used by someone, I'd be so sad if nobody uses it
My brother passed away in an accident three years ago.
My name is Hash
So it would have been Super Hash Bros
Where my cat?


hi all! gonna hang in the quiet room but wanted to pop by and say hello first 🙂
I don’t see mods responding but we’re not allowed to help with class assignments :/ sorry
Just didn’t want you to feel ignored
nO mInI mOdDiNg 
I knoooowwwwwee
I hesitated but felt bad like they were left hanging!
Which is why I said we’re not allowed ;_; not asking them to not ask
I worded it carefully
I pwomise
thnaks for answering it also personal developments to learn buffer overflows and prepare for the THM rooms can y give me a hint if you know?
Checkout pwn.college. Might help a bit too
I'm ok with buffer overflows, but I'm stuck on othe Binary Heaven room at the ROP task
any endeavourOS user here?
Return Oriented Programming.
Which I still have to learn completely
Using jumps in ASM code to use what's there to chain together some logic
if y are familiar with buffer overflow can you give me a tip to my problem?
What's the problem
🤣
and boba!
Looks like the padding of a pipboy
@slender scaffold
Access violation happens from trying to access r/w memory you don't have permissions to r/w to.
Hay, we don't help with University work.
I'm hungry
@gloomy linden this ping was for you ^
ok i got it
Specify
Waffles
Singular waffle
The food you can eat
TAF is that combination?
👀
Chicken yogurt and spices for tandoori :3
Guys I'm new to this whole thing and I'm already top 3% on tryhackme. Really shows that no matter how hard the rest of you work you can't really compete with my natural talent
Grats!
I'm starting to realize I might not be as funny as I first thought
Who is going to tell him or would he figure it out himself?
Hey
@boreal scarab my extruder gets cloged. andwhatever is inside i need to take all apart to clean it. is like rock or some metal part that is inside
I'm aiming for top 2%
3d printers? Which one do you have?
Oh no… time to pass more rooms to block Cubone from getting there
for this one k1c. but i have also cr10 smart proi
Pretty sure that would actually lead to me going down in rank and bringing me closer to 2%
I am
I think that metal part is the extruder lol

I had a cr10 and an artillery sidewinder x1 but decided to swap to a bambu just for ease of use
Wanna join us for a THM get together dinner? That's still being planned, we still have to get a head count
We did that last year, 8 of us
@hollow pivot flaked on us 
im happy with creality. so far no issue. aside this
sounds good. vegetarian if so
Gawd I just want to join for the pusheen emojis
I met him at blackhat :3
Oh that's fine, we had a friend last year, LockPickersUnited who is a vegetarian, we went to Texas De Brazil, and he was satisfied with Vegetarian options
Hello, I am learning about HTTP, is there a tool I can use to view the HTTP requests made to a website in real time ?
Yeah creality is generally good, trying out their pla shortly to see if its any good as well
Burp Suite
I meet him at Defcon in the conference hall
hyper pla ?
Can't say I blame 'em

I got a shirt lol
Couldn't you use wireshark for this too?
HAHAHA We meet gonzo before @mossy river could 
neato. Im vegan at home not so much when traveling / being in the US. not a big fan of starving
@eternal roost will be at Blackhat, not sure if she will be at Defcon.
thanks
Gave +1 Rep to @idle mica (current: #370 - 13)
Dont think it's hyper PLA sry
Could do, but Burp is more purpose-built for exactly that. You can send requests to repeater, modify them, etc
We still got 5 from THM, 3 from LPU. How many have you gotten together?
the gtk catppuccin theme lives on
I don’t think I’ll be getting a scholarship blackhat entry this year :/ sad
mitmproxy
good things come to those who wait
Cool thanks, haven't really gotten to learning burp suite yet but I've played around a bit with wireshark
Gave +1 Rep to @idle mica (current: #341 - 14)
I can send you an invite if yoy want
sounds like a shame not staying for defcon when youre already there
Dude, how many times are you going to mention this :p Literally the only thing you @ me for
I will look into that as well, thanks
Ooooo yay emojis
I gotta stop thanking people, I'm always so jealous bout the +rep
What has that got to do with Gonz0 not wanting to meet you?
Lol.
Until... I have no idea 
I'm still sobbing because my travel budget got obliterated, so I'm stuck with blackhat virtual this year
....how do we get pusheen🥺
oof
May I DM?
I was able to do SANS Orlando 2024 in person though, so I guess it isn't all bad
thm dinner would go crazy
you guys should get red robin
just saying
yuuuum
But how are you doing Gonzo? Staying busy?
What are the best online availible security events coming up this year? I'm new to the scene so I have no idea which events are worth keeping track of
So I won;t be seeing you this year?
Nah, Texas De Brazil was FIRE
@boreal scarab Im in, just dm the details when ya know!!
Been good and you? Recently changed teams 
Manually verify
I just verify again?
I got in, it’s public :3
I can add you to last year's group chat in discord if ya want. Need to send a friend invite though
Oh yah, forgot about that 
this is hyoper pla at max speed vase mode
https://youtu.be/m6hSDt8hALQ
@chilly veldt
Nuuu ;_; I’ll probably only be at defcon
The bot does daily sweeps, but can be rate limited, you can manually do it again to force it.
Nice! What team ya joined now? And I'm doing good, just got my old job with my awesome as hell boss again!
Okay that's pretty nuts. Have you had a good experience with their filaments generally?
cool cool
See you there I guess
Hmmm
yes. so far all ok. i got issues with some of them from time to time. but is mostly cos i opush the limmits bit to much 🙂
Soooo, is that a yes for the friend and invite, a no? A somewhere in limbo kinda deal? 
I can try to apply for a scholarship to blackhat but I don’t think I’ll get it lol
lmao
what's blackhat?
Yeah that's gonna lead to issues with any filament if you push it far enough. The vid you sent looks great though
in this context, a conference.
in a different context, a good fashion choice
Ahh I thought it was a school
and in yet another, a hacker that hacks for their own gain
well everyone knows that one
.....or just want to watch the world burn
In a roundabout way, kinda. They do have training going on 
Germany already 2 goals in 20 mins
..wat?
eurocup
oh lol
Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group
Footy · Spiderbait
Shashavaglava
℗ 1997 Rigman Pty Ltd as Trustee for The Spiderbait Unit Trust
Released on: 1993-06-01
Ensemble, Producer: Spiderbait
Studio Personnel, Mixer, Engineer: Janet English
Studio Personnel, Mixer, Engineer: Mark Maher
Studio Personnel, Mixer, Engineer: Damien Whitty...
the official football song
Soccer* 
handegg
Shinsphere
😉
I know very odd footy facts.. like southgate cost england the gold in 1996 euro cup by missing the goal
no idea who they played
Ah yes, totally forgot....
cough https://www.britannica.com/story/why-do-some-people-call-football-soccer cough
Brits came up with the word soccer
only know this because of the song by the business
Whoops time for work meeting >_<
Good luck!
tell them youre busy
tell them "you're mandatory"
Who gonna stop you
ugh
"In England, Szymanski writes, aristocratic boys came up with the shortened terms “rugger” and “soccer” to differentiate between Rugby Football and Association Football."
Source: https://time.com/5335799/soccer-word-origin-england/
I’m a good worker bee
So, it's Soccer. Get rekt!
can you make a jira ticket about it?
routes to help desk
ok, back to slowchat
We don’t use jira lol
⚽️
I don’t get how that symbol in your username changes as you click on it
can you submit a jira ticket about not using jira?
_>
Depends on your emoji type?
o.o
¯_(ツ)_/¯
standard discord web in standard ff?
omg.. dc- discord - how did we miss that abriviation the other day!!
Hey, im thinking of a Intrusion detection or an EDR solution for my home network. Trying to finalize what to use. I ahve been using aurora but im not too happy about it. So, im open to suggestions. 🙂
Checkout Wazuh, I've heard good things about it
Best cat
make decoy keyboard
KITTY!
clever
i had it to read twice just to grasp how great is
Yall when I try to download Ubuntu on my vm it says my hybervisor is broken??
Or “might be broken”
Are you trying to run a VM within a VM?
It says desktop
I’ll link what I’m downloading
But you said on your VM. So you're downloading Ubuntu from inside a running VM?
No
The iso file
Oooh wait that’s what you meant
Trying to run a vm inside a vm
I think ima just do the cli server
It worked when I did the cli server but asked for an address of some sort. Forgot what it called it
vm in a vm in a vm
Nested virtualization is possible, it just needs to be enabled/supported by the hypervisor
And the CPU
so push the door when says pull...
All I can thinking about is this commercial song:
Keep the Meow Alive
https://www.gofundme.com/MeowMixSong
Do you have to enable that somewhere in virtual box? Cus I already have virtualization on, in my actual computer
Kali works just fine
Your age is showing :3
what in the caterpillar hell is that lol
Meow mix!
hmm yeah that was in my mind but havent finalized it yet.
There's an option in virtual box and then you also have to enable virtualization in the VM
If the host VM is Linux and using kvm, you need to enable it there too
@boreal scarab i finaly grab them on time when was in stock
Tf is that?
I will be at Defcon too 😎
nozzle's
Your right
It says it’s kvm paravirtualization
I’m guessing Hyper V
lol
@oak mantle still want me to send the invite?
Oh didn't see the friend request lol
This dude sent a friend request to me and his about me is “fellow black hatter”
Do I get to meet you this year or should I run away again
g5v349u0mgj389rwvbm890werng9+2347wr2hg89uewng034wugjn7893wr89jng789wenrg
why shadow has to deal with big pårties and stuffs
kitty?
Ohhhhh
ah screw it, I give up
can't escalate to mario from toad 
I'll just wait for the writeup, or hints
Is this a room?
yuup the #1251235113803714590 room
shadow somehow deals decently with it using manual enumeration
Taken off the album "The Order Of Fear" (July 5th, 2024)
🎧 Stream, get it here: https://ordenogan.rpm.link/theorderoffearYT
"It’s funny how things go in the studio sometimes. When we had the demo version of this song I thought it should not go on the Album, because I didn’t like it so much. My other bandmates convinced me to fully produce the ...
YAY new orden ogan song
i literally dont get it. i haven't used vbox in a minute and now everything is jacked up
also seems they changed label between this album and the last
and broadcom is giving vmware for free to none comercial private use
should i do the switch shadow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
the main thing is. i have kali guest additions installed but my kali isnt even full screen. its like a small little box in the middle of the machine lmao
it wasn't like that before. weird
well...
Have you checked the display size in Kali?
Yeah
Says it’s default
I’m just gonna redownload. I didn’t have anything important on the vm anyways
You can meet me this year, I promise I don't bite 
On vacation in Serbia right now. xD
I'll probably hang in physical sec, blue team and crypto again
A high ranking member of lockbit and conti got arrested yesterday
One way to kick off the euros 5-1 to Germany
dheck you do in serbia ?
by learninf
bruh
So helpful
Your welcome
Vacation. Like, for real.
what town/place ?
Belgrad/Београд
@grizzled crystal is from serbia... just not sure what town... and yes they have weird letters 🙂
Wild stuff. Not to worry tho, I can read Cyrillic letters. ^_^
Imma rant real fast.
WTF IS WITH NJ DRIVERS?! JFC. 5 minutes after I left where I was. Atleast 10 freaking idiotic ass drivers crossing double yellow. Going in oncoming lane on a 2 lane street to turn because you're impatient. PURPOSELY cutting over a solid white turn only lane to get infront of everyone
pours full 50 litre barrel of everclear on to beerrise head
I said drink, not drown 
I would get up and get you a drink, but I‘m too drink for that. ;)
"I'm too drink for that"
Yup, English checks out. Bit is too drunk.
ask there for rakija drink
My point exactly. 😂
is like moonshine
is maded from plums mostly
is closest to rocket fuel due to % of alc
Interesting. Never had moonshine before, but heard about it.
and. i speak they language... so if you stuck in situation or so, let me know 🙂
Hahahaha, sure thing!
what about moonfire???
So far we got by with mostly English, got a couple words of Russian in the back as well tho, for whenever English stops working.
not in serbia 🙂
uh oh it was a bad idea to run fzf in shadows home dir
What does fzf do? Apart from fzfzfz your home dir?
fuzzy finder
if you run it without any other commands it lets you search for full file paths for all folder under the dir you ran it in
but it does not ignore wine paths which have symlinkx to / which means it starts indexing all files on shadows entire system
hence eventually gets laggy
Whahaha
it lags a bit but still easy to close without any harm done
Symlinks are pure jank, ngl. xD
also probably not that effective to find a file by searching entire system
yeah but wine use them a lot
I used to symlink binaries and custom scripts before I learned what aliases are.
I don‘t know what gnu stow does, but otherwise that makes sense.
But I‘ll figure that out tomorrow, Imma try to sleep now.
has a smol readme kinda shortly explaining it
Fancy, I use kitty as well.
More of an AwesomeWM person tho, despite my first tiling manager being I3.
now using the alacritty terminal fork with sixel support
Also I got to look into stow, if that does what I think it does, it‘ll safe me some huge pain with config backups.
Thanks for the pointer.
no problem
and yeah it is probably the best dotfile management system shadow has found so far
easier to use then git bare repos and less problems
also can make it very very neat
also makes shadows dotfiles more or less modular
which is interesting to say the least
Got a bash script for automation. But it‘s not perfect by far.
And I handle different configs through git branches. 😂
It‘s a bit cursed.
git submodules can also work if you need multiple git things inside one git repo but oh man
and shadow is now also gonna go for the meep moop sleep sloop to the beep boops
what about c++
Crash course learning it hurts bwain
You sleep?
Would @slender scaffold like to be added to a group chat for Defcon? It's in a discord server.
o_o is it THM specific or something?
here... silk gengar
hello
THM, LPU, HTB (HTB right now is just Emma
)
I´dont speak inglês, i speak português
Ok but only if you don’t ask too much of me >:[ I might be antisocial in person
I won't, I promise
Tfw you go gambling in Sweden and 2.75x your money 🤣
Ooooh fancy!

