general

[sand trench]

and also more looking into desktop computers right now

[slender scaffold]

[sand trench]

aaaaand think that fixes the theming issues shadow had at the start of the day

[slender scaffold]

Yay sounds successful

[worn thorn]

@boreal scarab some doofus tried to carry a prusa printer by the spool holder and pretty much broke every printed part upon impact. I am the lucky one to now repair it while others do boring work like cleaning

[wooden totem]

cleaning is boring?

[crude stump]

Yes

[worn thorn]

well cleaning two whole work areas in preparation for painting is pretty boring.

[crude stump]

It must be done but it’s still boring

[wooden totem]

Well I enjoy cleaning, its satisfying

[worn thorn]

I enjoy cleaning my own room more than work

[lavish star]

ThinkPads

[molten sky]

any of yall have good documentation for c++ sdbus stuffs (pref. async)

[lavish star]

they are my go to choice and the newer models can support win 11

but the older ones are the coolest since they are one of the few laptop models you can actually repair and upgrade

+they are bullet proof

[molten sky]

win11 wasnt my first thought when i read cybersecurity laptop

[errant fossil]

Wbu Dell Xps??

[lavish star]

she later on said that it would be nice to supp w 11

[lavish star]

had a dell, battery life time was sad

[molten sky]

still catching up lol

[lavish star]

couldn t figure out the bios

[molten sky]

the bios on Latitudes are so baren

[errant fossil]

was going to get the xps but too many bad rewiews

[lavish star]

+keyboard got water damaged just from my gamer sweat

WIsh I was kidding

[lavish star]

I do have the simple syntax for c++

like basics, var declaration, loops, decission structures

When I was at a hackathon one of the guys there gave me the best and simplest definition for async

take it with a grain of salt since I didn t program since there

[molten sky]

anything available online for interacting with the bus?

cause pain

[lavish star]

but imagine async to be a thread you can split into more smaller threads which are not dependent on one another

usually with async functions you start a long running program but are responsive to other tasks while that program runs rather than having to wait until it is finished

[lavish star]

w3school never let me down

if you want to take a glance into it ig is the best place to begin

[molten sky]

i have my doubts about w3 having much material on the use of dbus to manage and monitor systemd services 😶

[lavish star]

ohhh

yeah

my knowledge in c++ is shallow since I only did it in school or at hackathons

[lavish star]

what would you even need to know for this type of tasks?

nah actually I just realized how dumb I am rn

brb gotta lock in

[molten sky]

working on a graphical interface for service management and such

[lavish star]

so it is UI+data?

why choose dbus, I never heard anyone interested in it

[wooden totem]

apparently my "16gb stick" is just 3.7gb

[boreal scarab]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliceSimulator/comments/1cyqjfq/tf_just_happened/

The comments 💀

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/naw-mike-epps-nah-hell-hellnaw-gif-14719746325970885289

[shut hawk]

Oof, where did you get it from?

[wooden totem]

its like 20 years old

[shut hawk]

Oh, lol

[wooden totem]

gotta get a new stick just to install windows on new pc

oh what, storage is so cheap nowadays. 10 bucks for 128GB

[patent quail]

Oh

[molten sky]

dbus is just a standard way for two programs to (request to) communicate with one another --- there aren't many other ways to do so unless explicitly designed with an api or something else explicitly exposed via another means

in this case, just how i gotta communicate with systemd

[wooden totem]

stupid question, at what store do you buy microfiber cloths

[molten sky]

what type/pile

[wooden totem]

like for monitor

[molten sky]

if you want something with a deeper pile to clean tons of dust and crap you can get those from automotive places, even
if you want the flatter kind (i.e. for glasses) to clean smudges and stuff as well, then a lot of tech places may have some. eye places will only have small clothes for glasses, but similar material. a lot of generic big box stores have options sitting around

otherwise interwebs

[wooden totem]

🙏 ight thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @molten sky (current: #68 - 98)

[shut hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QxI-RP6-HM

[buoyant tree]

NTY, C++ is the devil's language

[molten sky]

man i used to enjoy c/c++

now i want death

[sand trench]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I3dKEriVl8

hey this is cool

space servers

[worn thorn]

yea. It'll be interesting at what point they consider using the starlink network to transmit data.

[opal crow]

Guys I just bought Dion training comptia a+ course and I scored 60%, do you think I can take the real test?

[worn thorn]

well time to slowly fix my sleep schedule. nighty.

[opal crow]

Night

[sand trench]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blazing granite]

I'd study a bit more an trying to score higher, I'm not sure what is the passing grade, but if it's 60 it's just one step from fail, 60 isn't a great score. If you take into account, tiredness, nerves for the exam, etc. those can contribute to lower the great so 60 it's borderline

[molten sky]

ngl i've never even heard of percentages being used for comptia exams, always points
not sure how i'd equate the two

SBT exams are the only I can think of rn that actually grade by %

[buoyant tree]

nopp

noppp

[blazing granite]

nop

[nocturne horizon]

Atleast 1

Also what the hell is a robo war dog

Like a literal robot dog used for war?

And Ur telling me u found an exploit in that

I was wondering 😭 because if i did I sure wouldn't be asking about it

[vale hazel]

hello everyone I'm new onTHM and I'm tryng toget some help with nmap room

[nocturne horizon]

Go ahead

[vale hazel]

Why are NULL, FIN and Xmas scans generally used?

[nocturne horizon]

They are stealthier than using a SYN scan

[vale hazel]

I tried and its giving me wrong answer

[nocturne horizon]

Firewall evasion

[vale hazel]

yes sir , Thanks so much

[cosmic pendant]

no they aren't

[gloomy linden]

is any topic in this server where i can send printscreen to ask a question?

[nocturne horizon]

That's literally what the room tells you

[cosmic pendant]

No it doesn't?

It's been a long time, but they aren't stealthier by a long shot

[nocturne horizon]

"All three are interlinked and are used primarily as they tend to be even stealthier, relatively speaking, than a SYN "stealth" scan."

[cosmic pendant]

Yeah, that's straight up wrong

[nocturne horizon]

Well how was I meant to know that

[cosmic pendant]

What room is it in?

[nocturne horizon]

Furthernmap

It's part of the beginner path iirc

[cosmic pendant]

If you think about it, it doesn't make sense

When would you ever seen those packets 'legit'

[nocturne horizon]

You wouldnt

[vale hazel]

I self my myself, and now I'm trying to get serious with my cybersecurity career

[nocturne horizon]

I think windows automatically ignores them

[cosmic pendant]

if they make it to windows, your FW isn't doing it's job

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah

The room says that the windows firewall would send back RST for every port

So it's kind of contradicting

[cosmic pendant]

Firewall Evasion isn't the same as stealth

That's hoping the FW is from 1999 and doesn't understand what is happening

[nocturne horizon]

😭

[cosmic pendant]

Any potato IDS will flag on those packets btw

The room is right, but I would add a footnote there 😄

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah I didn't really pay close attention to that part of the room since it literally says they are irrelevant

[vale hazel]

Do you have some tips??

[cosmic pendant]

For your career?

[nocturne horizon]

Tryhackme has actually taken my life over, I have my final exams coming up and I was meant to study for them but instead I've been doing tryhackme rooms all day

It's addicting

[vale hazel]

yes for my career

[cosmic pendant]

study comp sci/ comp engineering

[slender scaffold]

Working on it

[cosmic pendant]

Any idiot can learn the security part, it's the understanding of the layers below that matter the most

You can learn how many places of security?

THM,HTB,OFFSec

[slender scaffold]

I did part 1 of nand2tetris and it was amazing

[cosmic pendant]

How many places teach the engineering?

[nocturne horizon]

Funnily enough the exams I'm meant to be studying for right now are so I can get a course in comp sci

[cosmic pendant]

Univiersities and that's about it

[pallid lotus]

Any idiot can learn the security part
You say this...

[vale hazel]

this boot camp wants to charge me $16.600 for 8 months

[slender scaffold]

I wanna do part 2 I’m just busy

[cosmic pendant]

They can, but they just don't want too 😄

Engineering turmps everything

The trainees we select, engineers and comp sci

[pallid lotus]

They can, but they just don't want to
You say this...

[cosmic pendant]

We teach them proper security then

[slender scaffold]

It’s a Muiri!

[pallid lotus]

If you manage to teach my mother the basics of digital security you'll be doing far better than I

And not for lack of trying either

[cosmic pendant]

Oh, there are some caveats 🙂 LIke if past a certain age, just unplug the internet haha

[slender scaffold]

My mom takes notes. She never asks the same question cause she knows where to look

[nocturne horizon]

It's hard enough to teach them how to use any social media platform

[slender scaffold]

My mom is also over 70, so it’s not an age thing

[pallid lotus]

See, you say that, but my boss is older than my mother

... Then again, I'm seeing some benefits to that strategy

[cosmic pendant]

Luckily I am the boss 😄

(now)

[blazing granite]

Muiri 👋

[pallid lotus]

70? Mine's in her early 50s

[blazing granite]

how are you?

[pallid lotus]

Nae bad, and you?

[cosmic pendant]

There is so much money in CyberSEc, that it's poisoned Cyber Sec

You see it with FOSS tools going closed source, big companies not providing any support to little FOSS devs

Every school clamoring to build out any sembelence of a program they can

MOst of it is garbage

Engineering is the secret

[blazing granite]

in bed with a heavy cold/flu

[slender scaffold]

When I was a kid I thought engineers only worked on engines :/

[blazing granite]

mine too 🙂

[cosmic pendant]

Computers make the world go round 😄

[slender scaffold]

Lol

[pallid lotus]

Facetiousness aside, I do agree, honestly.
Security knowledge is weaker than a house of cards if you don't have the underlying foundations

If you don't properly understand the technology, how the hell are you hoping to control it?

[cosmic pendant]

I see it constantly, ESPECIALLY WITH AI

"Lets spend 300K to hire a prompt engineer"

INSTEAD OF COMING UP WITH AI THAT DOESN"T NEED THAT PROMPT BABYING

[slender scaffold]

What do you mean? Google’s AI has been spitting out absolute gems recently ❤️

[shut hawk]

Core-JS is a very sad example of this ☹️

[cosmic pendant]

It's going to be the end of society, but only because of laziness and highlight stupidity

[pallid lotus]

Man, don't go there. I spent most of the last week trying to come up with strategies for LLM security testing

[cosmic pendant]

What's that? Tell me more plz

[blazing granite]

indeed, you can't protect, or simulate an attack on something you don't know how it works 🙂

[shut hawk]

https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md

[cosmic pendant]

@graceful thistle this is bad?

This seems exactly what I was talking about and not good 😦

[graceful thistle]

yeah thats been going on for a while

[pallid lotus]

It's what always bugs me with the whole "anyone can learn cybersecurity" thing.
Yes, sure, but should they? I'm all for tearing down barriers to entry / blitzing gatekeeping, etc, but there's gotta be a basic level of knowledge and skill in place or it's just dangerous.
They say security jobs aren't entry level. For the most part they're actually right.

Caveat to that is that we do obviously want to give graduates / entry level candidates a chance, but that must be done in a very controlled fashion.

[cosmic pendant]

I think most people forget how security started, and what the penalties were for getting it wrong.

[pallid lotus]

I don't mind mentoring one or two people at a time who have very little background knowledge if they've got the right attitude to learn (in the understanding that they'll be learning lots of foundational stuff, and won't be unsupervised for quite some time).

[outer rivet]

Wowo is crazy how none technical security jobs getting 100of application

[whole yew]

They really don't.

Non-technical security is primarily GRC and policy, that's not exactly a thing most people (even security people) want to dive in to.

[cosmic pendant]

What do you mean?

[pallid lotus]

Amen

[outer rivet]

I was looking around in LinkedIn I saw one security job opening and I open it and it had 100 applications in 1 hour how I am going compete that

[silver sky]

I actually agree with that for the physical side of pentests too.

So many think it's just I will go and get paid to break into a place.

If you want to do it, it's a legal minefield, you need solicitors to write contracts and then you still need to do a report and be willing to potentially be arrested.

Also hello all

[cosmic pendant]

Be the best

[versed veldt]

Hello all, I have a quick question regarding the verification process

[cosmic pendant]

They aren't doing anything you can't do

Straight up

[blazing granite]

indeed, a lot of people want into cybersec because it's trendy and looks cool, they learn soft that make thing automatic, but they don't go to the basics, those are the most dangerous people. Like a monkey with a knife 😂

[silver sky]

Go on

[cosmic pendant]

learn the hard stuff, that's why everyone is doing CyberSEc and not engineering

"I don't want the math"

What the hell do you think the math is there for? Fun?

It's important

[outer rivet]

Agree with that

[pallid lotus]

Monkey with a knife
Lmfao. True though.
Trendy, looks cool, and pays well.

[outer rivet]

Everyone want free six figure jobs like TikTok influencer say

[slender scaffold]

What is this unsupervised life

[versed veldt]

As far as the phone number verification process, is there a way to request a "do not sell" and ask for a "remove my info"? I don't want my new number to be able to found by scraping bots or OSINT tools

[silver sky]

They also just see the so-called million dollar salaries people brag/advertise to sell courses

[blazing granite]

in spanish they say como mono con escopeta (Like a monkey with a machine gun) 😂

[silver sky]

Phone number verification for what?

[cosmic pendant]

@whole yew HYD!

[molten sky]

man can they pay well tho (beyond entry)

[pallid lotus]

LMFAO

[whole yew]

hey toaster

[pallid lotus]

I'm gonna use that

[slender scaffold]

So you say but I would love to look at logs all day

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/whaleboi201-gif-18540628

[pallid lotus]

Go monkey!

[versed veldt]

For this server? It insisted on me providing a phone number in order to allow me to speak here. Would have used a spoofed number, but it required payment to receive automated texts

[pallid lotus]

That's a Discord thing, not a THM thing. Best reaching out to their support for that one

[shut hawk]

I believe if you verify your account with the site here, thereby getting a role, the requirement should be lifted without having to use your phone number?

[silver sky]

That's discord that's responsible for the information not this server.

The server requires anyone here to have verified with discord their phone number to prevent spam etc.

Need to reach out to discord.

[blazing granite]

I like it, go investigate, using terminal, and get lost in a rabbit hole, but it's not for everybody 🙂

[pallid lotus]

Oh yeah. Forgot about that one

That said, fact they're talking means they already did it

[shut hawk]

Yes, well better late than never I guess 😂

[slender scaffold]

This is true… I usually rabbit hole a ton

[versed veldt]

Damn man, that sucks. Discord gets hit all the time. Ok, thanks all. I'll do a quick research and hopefully get the info removed.

[silver sky]

https://youtu.be/QxYmm5yCJBg?si=_oPN0tb__BvwwLaO

This is the original 🤣 was an advert for the rise of the planet ape

[shut hawk]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/4413460214807-How-to-Remove-a-Phone-Number

[wraith raptor]

Hey lads, I know this probably have been asked million of times, but is there any ETA on Dark Theme for THM? Can't bother with extensions, really.

[shut hawk]

Well we've been waiting for over 4 years so

[cosmic pendant]

lol

[shut hawk]

Who knows

[silver sky]

Yeah about that

[cosmic pendant]

DarkReader is the unoffical THM extension

[silver sky]

Might be in 2120 we'll get it

[blazing granite]

one of the mysteries of the universe 😂

[molten sky]

classic

[wraith raptor]

I was reading something in their blog, perhaps 2-3 months ago where they stated its WIP

[crude stump]

How hard is it really to implement a dark theme?

[wraith raptor]

🤣

Not hard

its just not their priority I guess

[silver sky]

That is a question they have had for decades since we moved from MSDOS

[shut hawk]

I was hoping with the UI overhaul we'd get it ☹️

[wraith raptor]

Same

[shut hawk]

But maybe there's still stuff to iron out

[versed veldt]

Thanks man

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @shut hawk (current: #14 - 524)

[blazing granite]

people weren't move from dos, they were actually pushed and kickout 😂

[silver sky]

Bring back DOS

Bring back pure commands

[shut hawk]

Might need to get a role here first though so you are able to type without the phone number

[blazing granite]

you started to have less and less soft and thing to do in dos and had not choice to join win or early version of Linux or Unix

[wraith raptor]

I've been reading bad things about Dark Reader, haven't really researched more though

[silver sky]

I just run Ubuntu server these days

[shut hawk]

Switched to 24.04* yet?

[silver sky]

God no, I can't afford everything at work to break 😂

[blazing granite]

nop yet

[silver sky]

It's held together with duct tape as it is

Duct tape and prayers

[shut hawk]

hehe fair 😂😂

[shut hawk]

The new installation setup is really nice

[silver sky]

Correction, duct tape, zip ties, prayers and tears

[blazing granite]

I have the pro support so I have years ahead of security updates, atm I don't have any pressing issues that would make me upgrade to 24.04 for the moment I'll stay confy here 🙂

[tender zenith]

You know those expired antivirus popups like mcafee? well I just downloaded a vpn and currently connected to a south korean server, so a couple popups showed in korean

[silver sky]

You have McAfee installed on your machine?

[tender zenith]

No, but it keeps giving me popups to renew or something

Haven't used an antivirus in quite a while

[silver sky]

That's either malware/malicious notifications on a browser or you've got it installed

[crude stump]

Vernal are you on windows

Wrong person

[silver sky]

Kekw

[tender zenith]

yeah i have windows and idk how to uninstall mcafee

[blazing granite]

I've never liked that soft, John McAfee was a weird but fun guy I met him once in a airport layover

[silver sky]

https://www.mcafee.com/support/?articleId=TS101331&page=shell&shell=article-view

[crude stump]

The reason I ask is because I was taking a look at my processes and I noticed a Mcaffee process was running. I looked up mcaffee and it was on my computer but not signed in. Idk if it comes with windows or what

[pallid lotus]

Go monkey!

[silver sky]

Sometimes it's preinstalled by the manufacturer

[crude stump]

Yeah

It could be that mabye

[slim rain]

https://tenor.com/view/little-giants-muscles-flex-body-gif-8495707

[shut hawk]

That gun is probably more safer in the monkeys hands than with some...other people

[unreal solar]

Kid bill gates

[silver sky]

Most likely. It's a pain to remove when installed by the OEM

[nocturne horizon]

I have a question, do you think I'm better off specializing in computer systems for my comp sci degree (general software engineering) or specializing in cyber sec, or I could do a cyber sec degree if I choose after I do computer systems (going to be another 4 years added on + have to pay for a separate degree)

[silver sky]

Even John McAfee hated the software in the end

[wide marten]

Should be banned. If a vendor advertises Win10/11 they should deliver Win10/11 and not "a modified Win10/11 with some added advertisement that takes expert knowledge to remove"

[silver sky]

The fact you have to buy a licence to activate it to remove it is criminal

[shut hawk]

Funnily enough there was just a discussion about this, I think the general consensus is going for the general comp science degree will give you a stronger foundation/base to build up from than a cyber one

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah

The cyber sec degree goes through computer science in general for the first year anyway

[wide marten]

Also "cyber security" degrees come with the risk of not being taken (as) seriously. There's a lot of them now because it's trendy.

[nocturne horizon]

But that's what I was thinking too

[nocturne horizon]

I think comp sci is trendy in general at the moment

Heard that people aren't even getting job offers anymore

And a high drop out rate

It's like the default degree everyone chooses now because they hear it's about computers

[silver sky]

Do comp sci in general! Then you have loads of options and fallbacks if cyber doesn't work out for you or you realise it's not for you

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah that's what I was worried about, I've always wanted to do comp sci (been wanting to do it since I was a kid) but I'm very into cyber sec right now

But I agree

I could end up doing cyber sec and find out it's not for me

[silver sky]

So glad my workplace only offers it as a module and not as an entire degree

[nocturne horizon]

And the only part of cybersec that I really enjoy (at the moment, I'm not far into the tryhackme rooms) is the pentesting/red teaming part and I feel like cybersec is much more than that which I could find boring

[versed veldt]

In regards to bots and other automated scripts/processes, what exactly is the functionality of the "disallow bots" in a website? To prevent scraping? But even then, it still gets scrapped by people?

Or do I have the wrong understanding of it?

[sand trench]

well the bad actors will break the rules.... but generalyl if you are blocking bots it is mostly the good people who will accept your terms of service and not abuse it
while scrappers or bots abusing the api can be banned on the spot for breaking tos sometimes after they already got the data

[slender scaffold]

Comp sci isn’t trendy, it’s classic

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah but unfortunately right now a lot of people are taking comp sci degrees because they look at it and think it is something completely different

[wide marten]

robots.txt is a hint for those who want to recognize it. It prevents nothing if people ignore it.

[slender scaffold]

What do they think it is?

[nocturne horizon]

I don't know really but they just see it is computer related and just go for it even if they don't have an interest in programming

Hence the very high drop out rate, atleast where I live

[slender scaffold]

I find it weird that a lot of people do that

High drop out rate when I was in school for that meant usually they tried learning to but couldn’t

But they knew it was programming

[versed veldt]

@sand trench In your opinion, is there really such a thing as privacy when it comes to the Internet? I mean, you view one page of an ice cream cone and next day you visit Facebook, then Facebook is filled with advertisements for ice cream cones. Not only that though, the whole "share with near devices" fucntion works both ways as well. As soon as you get in proximity to your friend, suddenly, their Facebook also gets filled with ads for ice cream cones

[sand trench]

YAWN

was just about to tune out for the night

[versed veldt]

Apparently I bore her

[nocturne horizon]

Yeah nowadays they just see the big salaries and go "oh I love playing video games on my computer I should go for it"

[slender scaffold]

I’m about to get lunch!

[sand trench]

yes privacy exists online.... using facebook kinda hurts your privacy a bit but depending on your threat model it can fit in there

[sand trench]

nah just tired as moops

[slender scaffold]

Wanting to make video games is still a valid reason to get into comp sci 😆 my opinion

[sand trench]

your level or privacy can be different from shadows

[versed veldt]

Time for sleep sloops meep moops?

[sand trench]

it is a large scale of deepness

[sand trench]

yeah technically... but feeling like answer your question first

[nocturne horizon]

Yea but they don't realize it's a lot of maths and it's actually pretty tough

[silver sky]

Depending on where you spawn also dictates what level of privacy you will get with the government/police

[nocturne horizon]

Most of my year are looking to do computer related degrees

[sand trench]

threat modeling is a huge part of security and privacy

and to an extent anonymity if you aim for that but good luck

[versed veldt]

I guess the most important question as far as privacy goes that I have is, if companies are making money from our cookies and personal info, why aren't we receiving a cut? I feel we are viewed more as a "product" than a consumer.

[sand trench]

i.e what are you trying to protect... and from whom... and for what reason...

[silver sky]

Also where you live will dictate the level of privacy.

If you live in the city you won't get much and if you live in the sticks you'll more than in the city

[sand trench]

yeah fair... this is why shadow cut out a lot of services like facebook and instagram and whatsapp and telegram

[sand trench]

rarely relevant as most people don't take that into their threat models

[silver sky]

They should tho. Especially with facial/gait recognition getting insanely accurate and accessible

[sand trench]

that is where voting for politics and voting with your wallet applies

also most swedish people don't grow their own food so anyways are at supermarkets hence their faces are most likely recorded

there is very little most people can do about that

[versed veldt]

I feel it is important to frequently perform OSINT scans on yourself. Never know what kind of info is floating around, I performed one on myself. Iy was scary, I found my phone number, all past addresses, current address, family members, and even people I've associated with frequently, such as close friends

[sand trench]

and due to data and privacy laws in sweden the threat modeling for it gets weird

still for a lot of people it is not relevant if their market place got their face and payments on file

it is more about what data they share online

[silver sky]

We have had students protesting recently at my workplace because we now have facial recognition software enabled on our camera

[sand trench]

and what creeps and or bad actors can do with it

i.e are you more affraid of your ex trying to do bad stuff against youj

[slender scaffold]

It is okay for people to try something and realize it’s not for them. It’s not what they want to do. Or find out they’re not good at it.

It is very good of them to try

[sand trench]

or some worker at the food market selling your data or facial recognition you

[nocturne horizon]

I completely agree, but a lot are getting into it for the wrong reasons

[versed veldt]

What's really scary is, the fact of how easy it all is.

[slender scaffold]

What makes it a wrong reason? Are they becoming criminals?

[sand trench]

yeah fair... still for a huge portion of people who just start into privacy the problems of stores using facial recognition is lost and not something to even think of as the stores are not their threats in the threat models

[nocturne horizon]

No as in, they're just choosing it because it is what everyone else is choosing and it pays good

[versed veldt]

For instance, if you took a selfie at home and texted a friend but accidentally sent it to wrong number, that person could easily extract metadata and find precise Geo location of your house

[wide marten]

The cut is the free services you get to use. Including this one here.

[nocturne horizon]

Like if Ur interested in it u should definitely try

[sand trench]

also if you want people to worry about facial recognition
it is also time to worry about the following:
loss of private payment methods like cash
built in backdoors into intel processors( intel me )
built in backdoors into amd processors ( amd psp )

[pallid lotus]

Pretty much any people

[sand trench]

when shadow holds guns everyones feet are inside the range

[versed veldt]

The thing to remember is this: If a service is free, then YOU are the product they're selling.

[silver sky]

Yeah well, we've been transparent on the usage of it and that it doesn't store information unless you are on the ban list (i.e you've been kicked out of university and that it's serious enough that we ban you or you pose a threat to the community) it won't do anything with the data.

Those on the ban list have their facial recognition cross-checked by a human after a positive detection

[sand trench]

yeah that sounds reasonable and most people would probably not flinch hard on that....

[slender scaffold]

So only those who choose it because everyone else is choosing it and for money is wrong? 🤔

[sand trench]

unless someone argues for the gdpr while they are on the ban list but that an edge case

[nocturne horizon]

Well it's not wise if you know that you know what your interests are but you ignore them, if you don't know what to do then it's a pretty good course to choose imo

[silver sky]

Yeah they willingly submitted a photo for a student ID knowing it can be used for identification and security purposes and can be passed onto law enforcement for legitimate policing purposes

[buoyant tree]

backdoor in processors?

since when

[sand trench]

...

[silver sky]

They gave you two systems as examples. Go and research.

[sand trench]

for intel: since 2008

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

good read on the topic

[bright sundial]

hi

[versed veldt]

Government here in USA actually made a phone, was supposed to absolutely amazing for security and privacy. It was a honeypot operation though designed to lure and trap hackers via a backdoor they built in before releasing the phone and having it sold on the black market

[slender scaffold]

I know the thing I wanna do in my life doesn’t make money but I like living. I just think people in college are still trying to find out what they like and what they wanna do. If it’s wrong to go after anything but your passion then many might need help living because money is required for living.

[sand trench]

though if that is inside your threat model shadow has heavy doubts why you are on discord

[sand trench]

yeah that whole deal has happened a lot

[nocturne horizon]

But your not going to have money if you choose a course that you ultimately hate and not succeed at

[slender scaffold]

But aside from that, everyone is different. Some people can do a good job with their profession and their profession doesn’t become their life. They balance life in their own way. Let them choose a path, and leave it if they find out it’s not a good fit for them

[wide marten]

Maybe there's several such operations, but the famous one I'm aware of was not targeted at hackers but at organized mafia-style crime like drug dealing

And it lead to hundreds if not thousands of arrests worldwide

[sand trench]

yeah the targets were organised crime people

[wide marten]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/fbi-s-encrypted-phone-platform-infiltrated-hundreds-criminal-syndicates-result-massive

[slender scaffold]

See that’s two things you’re combining. Hating something and also failing it. Some people hate a class but they refuse to let themselves fail it

[versed veldt]

Yeah sorry, organized crime

[slender scaffold]

One doesn’t lead or equate to the other

Some people love a class and still fail it

Are they better? Because they want that profession?

[sand trench]

list of low hanging fruit to improve privacy:
change browser from google chrome to firefox or brave
change search engine from google or bing to duckduckgo or other alternatives
limit the amount of extensions in your browser

[versed veldt]

There is one thing that shouldn't be allowed though, and that is (at least with Google) recording people without their knowledge or permission. Although, they get away with it due to fine print in service agreements which they intentionally make extremely long because they know no one is going to read the whole thing

[silver sky]

I have a simple fix to improve privacy! Wanna know it?

[sand trench]

that is why privacy laws and legistation is important to help everyone get better privacy

see gdpr

[sand trench]

sure go ahead....

[silver sky]

Return to monkey. Ditch technology and go and live deep in the woods.

[buoyant tree]

I HATE picking new laptop's/tech for relatives

[sand trench]

that is not required for privacy for most people... but at that point you are also aiming for anonymity

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/no-banana-here-meme-monkey-monkey-meme-monkey-riding-sheep-gif-18576091

[slender scaffold]

Catalog, dartboard, darts 🙂

[versed veldt]

Wouldn't help a whole lot lol. Not with everyone in the world owning Ultra HD Drones that can fly to your location and spy on you 😂

[buoyant tree]

I looked at over 800 laptops

[slender scaffold]

But whyyyyy!!!

[sand trench]

to be honest wide shadow sees most of your points as counter productive for someone just willing to improve their privacy above the baseline layer of nearly having none

[buoyant tree]

To find the cheapest and best one

[silver sky]

DEEP IN THE WOODS.

Plus drones are actually quite easy to evade with the correct cover and concealment

[sand trench]

i.e
do not let perfect be the enemy of the good

[versed veldt]

You refering to me Mrs. Shadow?

[slender scaffold]

Most can be categorized by parts.

[sand trench]

nope refering to official wide boi

[slender scaffold]

800 different combos is kinda crazy

[buoyant tree]

I did, applied 23 filters on ebay

still had to go through every laptop

[slender scaffold]

@sand trench when did you get married ;_; I didn’t get invited to wedding

[silver sky]

I'm just joking about.

I actually don't care about my privacy, there's nothing much more I can do.

[versed veldt]

Lol so is home security systems as long as you have a wifi jammer apparently. I read about that a while ago

[sand trench]

fair but fear mongering about facial recognition seems unhelpfull... still thanks for clarifying

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @silver sky (current: #47 - 160)

[silver sky]

Providing it's not hardwired that would work

[sand trench]

not yet.... gotta start loving themselves first

oh no... not radio frequency jammers

those are craziliy levels of illegal

[slender scaffold]

very irregal

[silver sky]

Well it's a fact that it is slowly but surely becoming more used.

[sand trench]

yeah

[slender scaffold]

Why are there helicopters flying over my apartment

[sand trench]

shadow called and wrote to their EU representative to more or less ban facial recognition in the EU..... don't recall the current stance

[slender scaffold]

And car screeches outside

Oh no is there a manhunt

[silver sky]

They've trialed them in London for the police. (Caught a load of wanted individuals)

Retail stores in the UK are installing them to try and deal with the level of retail crime and abuse.

[boreal scarab]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DAAtC1yzZdQ?si=4xcvLX7kxkxTr84n

Mmmm school PTSD

[sand trench]

the UK is not part of the EU

so not much shadow can do about that

[silver sky]

Not anymore

[slender scaffold]

Holy crap I just saw a jeep book it

And police chase

[boreal scarab]

@silver sky WIDE BOI YOU'RE BACK!

[silver sky]

I was never gone?

[sand trench]

feath3rz is getting kidnapped and put in a police chase

[slender scaffold]

Something smells bad outside

[silver sky]

Sorry I farted

Too much popcorn

Watching the police chase via discord

[sand trench]

In June 2023, the European Parliament made history when it voted in favour of a total ban on live facial recognition in public spaces. Through the new artificial intelligence bill, the EU could stop companies and authorities from treating us all as walking barcodes.16 Nov 2023

[slender scaffold]

Dang I wanna know what’s going on

[boreal scarab]

Felt like you were

[sand trench]

sooo yeah that went well

[fickle summit]

how do i change it to usa?

[versed veldt]

I wonder, is it true the reason why flaws in software are called "bugs" is because in the first ever made computer, issues arose due to actual bugs crawling through the the structure?

[slender scaffold]

They’re after me!!! They had helicopters circling my place!!!

[versed veldt]

How do you change what to usa? The server?

Or the OVPN?

[fickle summit]

my profile to usa. Im trying to get a subscriptiom

[stuck otter]

Just a thought experiment.

If you go into a help channel in a community run discord and ask a question but get no answer.

Do you feel entitled to that answer?

[silver sky]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68274090

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202405/facewatch-met-police-face-lawsuits-after-facial-recognition-misidentification

[versed veldt]

Should be located in account settings on main account

[boreal scarab]

Feath3rz! What did you do?!

[slender scaffold]

Omg I looked up what our police helicopter looks like; definitely was them haha

[slender scaffold]

I chose the wrong profession!!

[boreal scarab]

Run Feath3rz! RUN!

[slender scaffold]

What would police deploy helicopters for… murder?

[versed veldt]

I don't feel entitled to the answer, I sometimes feel ignored, or feel like I'm asking dumb questions. Most times, i either feel as though no else knows the answer, or is isn't active, or that they just aren't in the mood to tolerate trying to work through someone else's issue

[silver sky]

Person(s) at large.
Vehicle chases.
Missing people.

Loads of reasons.

[whole yew]

often it's car chase stuff that turns into urban parkour. If someone does a runner, they'll use the heli to mark while the officers pursue on foot.

[sand trench]

both in the UK so not under EU legislation but yeah fair

[slender scaffold]

Ahh hmmmm

[silver sky]

Yeah I know, thought you might be interested to use that bottom one to your MEP

[versed veldt]

They deploy them all the time to use infrared scanners to locate marijuana growth and go in to chop them down

[silver sky]

Don't need a helicopter for that. They've got handheld ones, drones and snow for that

[slender scaffold]

That’s for sure. But this very urban. No cane fields :3 usually they hide them in those lol

[sand trench]

*can't stop laughing at home many crypto miners got caught as weed growers thanks to the infrared scanners

huge heat output
must be growing weed

[versed veldt]

One last thing and I'll stop my ranting

[wide marten]

Or electricity bill

[stuck otter]

Thanks the response, is interesting for sure the different answers from another server to this

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @versed veldt (current: #2084 - 1)

[boreal scarab]

Yaaaaah, don't think they can get a warrant just based on "infrared"

[stuck otter]

I think i am understanding that is more an emotional response to being ignored. Some people process that in different ways.

[boreal scarab]

https://youtu.be/kSOkmOqnteU?si=XkKpS8vRBUMnfMJV

[sand trench]

anyways gonna call it a night here and go for the meepity moopity sleepity sloopity to the beep boops for the sleep sloops while meep moops

[slender scaffold]

Gnight shadow!! Remember invite me to wedding

You know.. whenever

[boreal scarab]

Hejdå

[slender scaffold]

We don’t need heat lamps here :3

[boreal scarab]

(Means Bye in Swedish before mods slap me)

[versed veldt]

No warrant, they just observe the location for a while trying to see if anyone comes by to tend to crops, then eventually they chop it all down and confiscate it wether or not they know who owns it

[slender scaffold]

Take it home for… analysis

[boreal scarab]

Bur if it's in a legal state, that causes many problems.

For NJ, you can't grow it unless you have a cultivator license, bur there is a bill to allow growing. But some states you can grow, so going in and chopping it down is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Also, they still need a warrant to do that, even if it's in your yard, it's your property

[slender scaffold]

I don’t touch the stuff. I’m cleeaaaannnnnn

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/i-smell-bullshit-gif-11109776132842570855

[versed veldt]

Back to my final rant, I know quantum computers aren't as well suited as super computers are, but in terms of EXTREME security and privacy, They're "allegedly" making an "unhackable quantum computer".

[slender scaffold]

No really. I don’t need it :3

Never tried

[boreal scarab]

Legal here, so take a guess. Helps me stay asleep and not wake up in the middle of the night.

[slender scaffold]

Heard of this and I’m curious

[boreal scarab]

Now before I get bonked on the head.... moving on

[crude stump]

They say that for everything that’s new but someone always finds a way

[versed veldt]

But on the other end of the spectrum, while it's possible for every state in the U.S to have it legalized, it is still illegal on a federal level, and the government can crack down and send everyone in the U.S who owns pot straight to prison lol.

[boreal scarab]

Mmm hacking a quantum computer. Love me some atom hacking

[cosmic pendant]

Does anyone here know K8s really well?

[boreal scarab]

Nope. On federal installations, yes. But state installations, or your own property, they can't.

Also if you cross any state border with it, prison

[clear jackal]

No but I can probably bullshit an answer for you lol

[boreal scarab]

@hot cairn Emma, Toaster needs a K8s expert.

[cosmic pendant]

Berries you're the best

Beep Beep Homie!

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ikr-i-know-shades-on-sassy-fabulous-gif-16553973

[boreal scarab]

Beep beep motha trucker!

[boreal scarab]

Also. They are reclassifying it as Schedule III and not Schedule I anymore

Trust me, I smoke it, I read all the legal crap along with it.

[clear jackal]

This first part of your message is incorrect. Feds, with a warrant, can raid just about anywhere in the US.

Tribal Lands and Military installations are a bit different.

[versed veldt]

Ah, the first one to do so would have to have an extremely high IQ though with a damn good understanding of quantum mechanics, the gates it uses, and even to just simply intercept a message, one would have to excel at quantum mechanics and fully understand super positioning. Because I send message A to lance, and jim tries to intercept, but is unable to do so due to the quantum super positioning of the qubits which can't be replicated or duplicated. If message A is tampered with in any way and doesn't immediately get sent to lance, the message ultimately "gets lost" and for Jim the message would be "destroyed".

[crude stump]

Military installations usually have there own investigators and police

[cosmic pendant]

It depends.....

I got a funny video

[crude stump]

Who built the quantum computer

People

[versed veldt]

Yup

[crude stump]

What happened to the video,

Aw man

[cosmic pendant]

"marines arrested in formation"

[crude stump]

Thank you

[versed veldt]

Not saying it's impossible, just saying he would have to be a smart cookie to do so lol.

[crude stump]

Definitely

Unless it’s a group of people

Many minds equal one big mind

[versed veldt]

Not even I fully understand the gates lol, the ones I've worked with I know

[boreal scarab]

I could rant about my thoughts on if the federal government raids many houses for legal (state level) growing, or smoking of weed.

I would think that would qualify as a tyrannical government at that point 🤔

[versed veldt]

But there's some I never even heard of before lol

[crude stump]

Some states state the amount of plants you can grow

[boreal scarab]

NJ is a big fat 0... for now, there is a bill for 6 rec, 10 medical.

[versed veldt]

@crude stump Can I DM you real quick?

[crude stump]

Sure

[versed veldt]

I tried fooling around with quantum programming. It's extremely complicated stuff

[umbral bay]

👋

[versed veldt]

The standard binary code is called Qubits, where a 0 can simultaneously be a 1 as well. It can be located at gate X, but also be entangled with another qubit located at gate Y

[boreal scarab]

Oh shit it's Tim! RUUN!

https://tenor.com/view/scared-child-running-away-baby-spooked-gif-23509618

[clear jackal]

It's funny, until you read about the charges

[pine stratus]

do u like submarines ?

or only tank ?

[cosmic pendant]

Yeah

[clear jackal]

If it's the Marine video I'm thinking of

There's a couple

[cosmic pendant]

Yah it is

[restive night]

do harder rooms reward more points?

[cosmic pendant]

I think so

[simple valve]

iirc, they just give the same amount

an easy room with 2 flags has the same points as a hard room with 2 flags

[versed veldt]

What I wanna know about THM is HOW the scoring system actually gives points. How do I get higher up on the room rank charts? I complete a room fully, it says I'm at the very bottom with like 80 points. Then there's a guy who also completely finished it, only he has 800 points.

Why the point difference? Did he perform a novel method? Was the one I used the same technique thousands of others used?

[slender scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-cat-catnip-police-chatpotté-gif-15844651

catnip ❤️

[versed veldt]

Anyone have an idea about the scoring system??

[tender pulsar]

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups.

[rapid merlin]

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6563910-points-explained

[twin ridge]

Gave 1 Rep to n0wlan (current: #718 - 5)

[versed veldt]

Oops, wrong person

[blazing granite]

If my years of customer services taught me something is that never underestimate any person stupidity, also never say he/she can't be that stupid because people will prove you wrong 😂

[tender pulsar]

As soon as you idiot proof something they make a bigger idiot

[blazing granite]

idiot proof doesn't exist, because there are no cure for stupidity

[boreal scarab]

Mainly tanks

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pepper-spray-gif-2871467011240639452

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-you-thanks-thx-tank-gif-11214867188794065854

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-4023090852990224147

[tender pulsar]

There used to be but then OSHA came around and with it a large decline in natural selection.

[blazing granite]

seen it many times irl

[buoyant tree]

seen people thinking a laptop is a touch screen beyond too many times and when it still doens't work still keep trying

[tawny magnet]

directions were followed.

[blazing granite]

that's the definition of insanity, try the same thing over and over again and expect different results

[opal crow]

Hehehehe

Eeeeeeeeehehehehehehr

What an idiot

Hehe

[versed veldt]

Now, now, let's not make fun of the less technologically inclined 😂

[blazing granite]

one time I was solving an issue for a client, and I asked for a screenshot, I explained him how to take a screenshot step by step, when I received the screenshot on the mail it was a pic of the screen taken with the mobile

[molten sky]

gotta get the faxed printed out cell phone picture

[feral ledge]

Hey can someone let me know why im unable to be in the voice chats?

[molten sky]

0x8s are specifically excluded

too pink

[feral ledge]

loll

im 0x9

[molten sky]

not here you're not 😶

[feral ledge]

cray

are you being deadass tho

[molten sky]

nah no clue -- normally it's a verification thing but you're clearly verified

[feral ledge]

ive been in here since 2020 and im just now getting started with wanting to do it as a career

[opaque saffron]

Hello, i have windows 7 32bit operating system can i run buripsuit etc type software in this system and start my career as Ethical hacker from scratch? Please anyone reply.

[simple valve]

You’d need to download a very old one

[molten sky]

I didn't realize 32bit was still used anywhere

[clear jackal]

Fairly sure people responded to you yesterday

Also, unless you have an environment constraint, you really shouldn't be using Windows 7. The security hole is a mile wide.

Windows 10 was a free upgrade, that window (pun intended) has been sunset though

[opaque saffron]

Yes a lots of people are using windows 7. I am Just asking, will buripsuit software work in this window.

[molten sky]

Windows 7 wasn't the point, it was the 32bit part lol

curious what part of the world

[opaque saffron]

Well i downloaded visual studio code in 32bit and it's working great so i don't think it is bad.

[clear jackal]

FML, windows 7 was released 16 years ago

[buoyant tree]

me running the same script again hoping it will work and it sometimes does

[buoyant tree]

not a client but an aunt with the same thing

[molten sky]

can't 32bit windows only take like 4gb of ram?

[rapid merlin]

yup

[opaque saffron]

😂 i know my computer i have from 2007 by the way.

[buoyant tree]

where 16bit windows?

[molten sky]

<= Windows 3.1

i should spin up a 3.1 vm

[opaque saffron]

My computer has 2 GB Ram.

[molten sky]

i would die

[boreal scarab]

https://youtube.com/shorts/a47Mnyjv06U?si=0zLaKbJV_JI62rNM

Mmmmmmm..... I...

[clear jackal]

Tbh, there's probably a Linux distro that's made for situations like this

[molten sky]

most of them

[clear jackal]

With security updates

[rapid merlin]

There's a 32 bit Kali image

[buoyant tree]

AI RAM

[umbral bay]

Dodge Ram.

[balmy badge]

Does would burpsuite would on a 32 bit MacBook from 2019 with 8gb RAM (Linux VM tho)

[molten sky]

wait 32bit macs could have 8gb? didn't even realize

[balmy badge]

Coz it doesn’t come pre installed the vm

[rapid merlin]

Wouldn't be 32 bit, even if it was from 2009 that would be 64-bit.

[blazing granite]

that's the limitation of 32bit, it can't handle more than 4gb

[balmy badge]

Ah

I always thought it was 32 bit lmao

Coz I searched it up ages ago and that’s what google told me

[blazing granite]

32 and 64 were side, by side for a while

[rapid merlin]

So you should be fine on linux with 8gb ram. I have Kali running in a VM with 8gb ram and Burp Suite runs fine

[balmy badge]

Do u need to download a special version?

Or just community Linux x64?

[rapid merlin]

I'm going off of everymac.com, so the data could be wrong. Either way, there's no way Apple sold a 32 bit macbook in 2019

[rapid merlin]

That's what I'm running

the community linux x64

[balmy badge]

I’ll have a look later tonight

Thanks for the help

[rapid merlin]

No problem!

[rapid merlin]

Oh, if you run into burp suite's browser not launching, try installing chromium. That fixed it for me.

[balmy badge]

I have say that my Mac is 8gb ram, so the VM would be less

[feral ledge]

[rapid merlin]

Are you wanting to run it in a VM or on your linux install on your mac?

[balmy badge]

VM

Coz I need to run another broken vm at the same time

For a school assignment

[rapid merlin]

Looks like the min ram is 4gb

[balmy badge]

I’ve got an m-series MacBook but it can’t use the x86 broken vm which I need for the the assignment

And no I didn’t know about Apple silicons inability to use x86 VMs when I got it

[rapid merlin]

I don't have any M series Apple machines, so I haven't had to fiddle with that. You could always look into a cloud based VM, but it's not free. Linode is good and not very expensive, especially if you only need to run it for a few hours.

[balmy badge]

Would u have an idea what the price would look like

A rough estimate

[rapid merlin]

https://www.linode.com/pricing/

You can do it by the hour, I recommend using the shared CPU machines for something like this. If you have an ISO of the VM, apparently you can upload it. I haven't tried that feature.

I'm heading out for the night. Feel free to DM me if you have any other questions.

[balmy badge]

Can’t thank you enough for this 🙏

[stray pier]

Just wanted to hop in and tell you all that your soul is so valuable and that God loves you all. So much so that He came in to the world to pay the ultimate price for the sins of the world. If you accept this priceless grace and follow Him you can find hope, peace and love like no other. Stay blessed yall. ❤️

[feral ledge]

When can we get a dark mode on tryhackme bruh working on there late at night has gotta be so detrimental to my eyes bruh

[molten sky]

that was just asked a lil while ago as well lol
#general message

[rapid merlin]

https://darkreader.org/

[feral ledge]

Lynux do you happen to have any more cool plugins???

[rapid merlin]

lmao

idk what you mean by cool

[feral ledge]

usful practical convient

[rapid merlin]

the only other one I use are proton pass and one for youtube

[feral ledge]

bruh this is amazing my eyes dont hurt no more

myheadache left

[rapid merlin]

you can modifie the darkness and shit cause the default mode is not the best

like up the contrast lmao

you'll like it for sure

[vale hazel]

genal question pay $ 16000 for 8 moths for compTIA test is ok?

[molten sky]

i'm sorry, what?

[balmy badge]

U had me at the 16000 part

[molten sky]

also 8 months? 8 months what

[vale hazel]

*general question

[molten sky]

that's not the part we were confused about, lol

[balmy badge]

Link the site or course

[vale hazel]

this boot camp wants to charge $ 16,000 for 8 months of CompTIA+

[molten sky]

okay that's the part that was left out, it's a boot camp

i think that's insane, personally, but 🤷‍♂️

what certs do they provide

[vale hazel]

https://digitalskills.instructure.com/

not much I found out

[molten sky]

there ARE some good bootcamps, but they don't have the best rep for the most part
a couple local ones are getting sued as well for overpromising career outlooks after going through them

[balmy badge]

You could probably find better online for free

[vale hazel]

i think so too but I'm not an expert I'm just a beginner, but I know Linux in and out

[molten sky]

curious -- is that 8 months of like one night a week or is it like 8 months of several hours every day of the week

[balmy badge]

There’s ton on YouTube

[molten sky]

but i know linux inside and out
already ahead of many

[vale hazel]

twice a week 3.5 hours

[balmy badge]

Is it in person, zoom or all online?

[vale hazel]

zoom

[molten sky]

that sounds more expensive than what i would've paid at the expensive Unis around here for actual credits

[balmy badge]

Which certs are u looking for?

[vale hazel]

ubuntu is my favorite

and Kali

[balmy badge]

Ye, do u get actual credits or it’s just the certs at the end of the course

?

[vale hazel]

just the a certification

[balmy badge]

Just the A+?

[vale hazel]

CompTia+ security

[molten sky]

12 credit hours (what it sounds like you'd be doing time-wise) at Seton Hall up the road is 17,880.

Just for perspective

unless you meant 3.5hrs /wk TOTAL, then that's even more comparably expensive

[vale hazel]

I feel that the course is for people that never use a computer before or have never heard about any code or Windows "CMD "command

[molten sky]

could be for anyone. my gripe is the cost

[balmy badge]

Honestly sounds like a scam

[vale hazel]

3.5 hrs x2

twice a week

[balmy badge]

I would first scoured YouTube or coursera and find something who u like before u commit to 16k

But it’s up to u

[vale hazel]

its from UNVL

https://digitalskills.instructure.com/

[molten sky]

yeah that link does nothing for people w/out an acct

[balmy badge]

UNVL?

[molten sky]

i assume uni nevada @ LV

[vale hazel]

yep

[balmy badge]

Ye I googled it

I’m Australian so I wouldn’t know the costs of a course over there

[vale hazel]

university of nevada las vega

[balmy badge]

👍

[molten sky]

isa juun

[whole yew]

for $16k USD I'd expect to get at least a dozen certs from CompTIA

If it's JUST A+/Net+ hard pass

[vale hazel]

the CompTia is like what?? $450 dollars maybe?? from the CompTIA Website

[whole yew]

I tihnk I paid $410 or something for Pentest+

[sick lance]

Pentest+ beta is only $36 right now.

[vale hazel]

that is what I was thinking but the instructor was telling us about the training that they offer so we can pass the test

[whole yew]

What? Scrubz link. On the atual comptia page, PT+ exam is $404

[vale hazel]

so help me out here everyone, CompTia+ security its one cert right?

[sick lance]

2 mins.

[whole yew]

Security+ is an intermediate level cert that is widely considered to be an antry point to security roles.

It assumes knowledge of A+ and Network+.

[sick lance]

https://wsr.pearsonvue.com/testtaker/common/SessionExpired.htm

[whole yew]

maybe click that link, scrubz

[vale hazel]

so I'm aiming to pentester ffield

[sick lance]

@shut hawk got it for £30

[whole yew]

It's beta, I wouldn't recommend betas to anyone. Because they are broken by design

If they were fixed, they'd be the actual

Pentest is not entry level to security

It's extremely rare that someone gets pentest as part of their job straight away.

[vale hazel]

I Know

[whole yew]

To be honest, I wouldn't consider a pentest candidate unless someone has a M.Sc in CompSci/cybersec or 5 years in industry

[vale hazel]

junior Pen

[whole yew]

That is for a junior pentester

There's a LOT of potential for risk and damage that a pentester can do accidentally

[vale hazel]

???

are you a Pentester?

[molten sky]

i thought you were gonna hardline it at M.Sc, lol

like woah now

[whole yew]

Pentesting is part of my duties and responsibilities in my current role. I also do a lot of GRC and monitoring.

[balmy badge]

In the scale of things, where would I put a CCNA cert?

[rapid merlin]

what I can think of is that, you know about cisco things and networking.

[balmy badge]

Ik, I mean it’s above a Comptia network cert?

[molten sky]

depends

is it above Network+? yeah sure

is it above Pentest+? Completely different category

[balmy badge]

Kk

Coz I kmow I want to go into cybersecurity, I just don’t know which part yet

I do plan on getting a CCNA

If I do get the CCNA, should I bother getting a Net+ cert?

[rapid merlin]

I don't think so!

since in my opinion CNNA adds 10%-20% things in your CyberSec career ig!

[blazing granite]

if you get the ccna skip net+ and use that money for other cert

[molten sky]

i regret going back to cpp

so
many
segfaults

[brisk tree]

Morning

[gray sonnet]

Morning THM 👋

[brisk tree]

How are you

[molten sky]

morn

[gray sonnet]

good good, how're you?

[gray sonnet]

morning

how're you doing this fine night?

[molten sky]

segfaults

segfaults everywhere

send help

[gray sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/help-send-help-dog-animal-stuck-gif-4700573

[brisk tree]

im ok just sat here in pain realising i may be lactose intolerant

😂

[brisk tree]

thought you said seagull for a sec ahaha

[molten sky]

i wish

[gray sonnet]

👀

[brisk tree]

😂

[molten sky]

i'm giving up for now, it's late

pushed a segfaulty copy to remote

that's future someone's (me) problem

[brisk tree]

ahahasha

[sick lance]

No, you deserve 'em, don't know why, but you do.

[molten sky]

mod abuse

[sick lance]

Slander!

[molten sky]

slander is spoken

this is typed

[chilly veldt]

skill issue 😛

[molten sky]

fix it then

[chilly veldt]

(I know zero cpp)

[molten sky]

sounds like a skill issue

[chilly veldt]

(I am currently on day 3 of struggling with connecting to wifi with kotlin)

(I just want to redirect my rage)

(and I am currently getting ready for going for my drivers exam)

[molten sky]

..you don't drive?

[chilly veldt]

motorcycle

https://tenor.com/view/wheelie-wheelies-whoolie-pop-wheelies-streetbike-gif-21225727

[molten sky]

so riders test rather than drivers test

good

what bike

[chilly veldt]

well it's called drivers test

[molten sky]

well sure just contextually

[chilly veldt]

we are riding honda on the school

ye

honda CB500

[molten sky]

but like yours
what's on your radar

cb huh

[chilly veldt]

well I am currently looking at a suzuki esx 750 from 86

[molten sky]

the cb is a pretty solid choice -- standard as well so not painful to commute on lol

ahhhhhhh misread

esx also solid

86 tho? that's an interesting find. how much

[chilly veldt]

sorry gsx 750 es*

[molten sky]

same same

understood the same bike mentally

[chilly veldt]

yeah, 1400 USD

[molten sky]

1400 is pretty good actually

always hard to tell when wet but it looks like they took care of it

[chilly veldt]

yeah, they have, but they don't have the time for it anymore and therefore selling it, right in my neighbourhood

[molten sky]

i'd probably toss the blinkers but ngl i'm not 100% sure about the fronts staying or going

the fronts have a part of the aestetic somehow

[chilly veldt]

yeah, I love the retro look

going to drozzle it down to 500 though

[molten sky]

eu reg or

[chilly veldt]

cause I am not allowed to drive 750's

[molten sky]

yup

[chilly veldt]

in 3 years I am

[molten sky]

sad rule

can't imagine being limited to 500 for 3 years lol can't even commute on that -- you'd get flattened on the highway

[chilly veldt]

well it's my license that says it

I only have a medium license

just happy I didn't take the small license (125cc)

[molten sky]

yeah that's just not a thing over here, there are no levels
if you test on a trike you're restricted to a trike, but other than that there's no like power levels
there may also be an automatic restriction if you test on an auto but i'm not 100% on that

[chilly veldt]

ye

[molten sky]

Correction: Anyone who takes the test on a bike under 231cc is restricted to 500cc or less
However, nobody takes the test on that unless they're taking a lil moped everywhere

[chilly veldt]

the licenses here are 18 years old = 125cc
20 years old = 500cc
24 years old (or had 500cc for 3 years) = unlimited

[molten sky]

i would quite literally be unable to ride to work

less, take the much much longer non highway detour

[chilly veldt]

I take the train to work

and I live 5 minutes from the station

[molten sky]

if given the choice between train and bike can't believe it's not bike

[chilly veldt]

I have 2 hours to work

[molten sky]

k

[chilly veldt]

approx 150km

[molten sky]

i'd make that just for the hell of it

[chilly veldt]

93 miles

[molten sky]

i'd make that ride several times a week just cause

[chilly veldt]

I will be taking the bike to school though

[molten sky]

i'd ride out to another state just to get on the bike, lol

[chilly veldt]

yeee

[gray sonnet]

anyone heard of a royal enfield bullet?

[molten sky]

heard of?

yes

seen?

never

enfield makes some nice bikes tho

[chilly veldt]

oh well, time to go get ready and drive with my car the hard route we have a chance to get

[molten sky]

it lightly rained both days of my riding course+test

my loaner bike also had a fucked throttle cable lol

so so so so so loose

[graceful thistle]

Timur writing a book

[molten sky]

idk why i didn't tighten it

[chilly veldt]

oop

[molten sky]

i've been wanting to say something abt it, lol

[chilly veldt]

we had to take a course where my front bake was too loose

[gray sonnet]

I've been riding an enfield bullet for the past 2 years, and this bike was made in 1989......

[molten sky]

i stoppied the loaner bike by complete accident cause of the extremely loose throttle

[chilly veldt]

and we had to do critical breaking

[molten sky]

take care of these things and they last..and so easy to maintain

[gray sonnet]

exactly

it was my grandpa's when he was in the Navy, my dad's when he was in the army, and mine from next month haha

[chilly veldt]

the insurance for this bike for a year is a little higher than the monthly insurance of my car lmao

[molten sky]

the only bike related thing my family has past down is an apparent pattern of being nailed by drunk drivers 😶

family tradition

[gray sonnet]

ouch

[molten sky]

the last one was a fmr cop who wrote his own accident report, leaving particular details out, which didn't look too hot for em

[heady nova]

Third day and I just got the clear picture of what I'm supposed to do

Just got into the Threat Intel team

@tired peak this is amazing

[charred forum]

Congrats

[warm terrace]

tryhackme website is the best yoo literally how to be hacker without go to college and i have the community, we really livin in the peak age of connection and networking frfr

btw what language or apps they use to make the web site ??

[bold sierra]

Hello guys yesterday my laptop died and i am thinking of buying a new laptop what might be the best choice as i do code plus i am practising hacking too.

[main steppe]

In france it's 16yo -> 125cc
18yo -> around 800cc
20yo -> unlimited

[sick lance]

Depends on your use case.

You don'y need a beefy laptop for coding, but then it depend on how much virtualisation you plan on doing.

I do alot of virtualisation, and I have 64GB of RAM, I barely use all of it.

I don't game on my laptop so my Nvidia T500 is just used for password cracking, it's not great, but it does the job.

[bold sierra]

Yaa my current role that i am moving on to is SOC so in future i will be simulating few labs on my own to brush up my skills plus few red hat too

[shell nova]

To be fair you probably won't do much password cracking

[sick lance]

Most just settle for 32GB.

[sick lance]

Nah, absolutely true.

[bold sierra]

True

32 be enough for daily task and if need heavy task we can always switch to pc

[sick lance]

This is what I work with.

[naive violet]

Second hand high spec business laptop

[sick lance]

W10 22H2, unsure if I should upgrade to 11.

[naive violet]

The latitude 5400 is dirt cheap with the i7 8665u here

[sick lance]

that with a 512GB hdd/sdd?

[shell nova]

Probably not, unless it's pro or enterprise

[bold sierra]

Dam guys these are expensive almost close to macbooks pro with m2

[sick lance]

It's Pro.

[bold sierra]

Even m2 macbook is cheap

[bold sierra]

I kinda prefer windows 10 my self

I am not quiet into windows 11

[sick lance]

I think all Z books are shipped with Windows Pro.

[sinful radish]

Guys do you think gaming laptop is good to go with?

[bold sierra]

Every things is just more Sophisticated with windows 11

[sick lance]

Depends, is it bulky and has a bulky PSU?

[sinful radish]

My friends suggest me to just buy desktop thinking about longevity of hardware

[sinful radish]

I can send you a link.. please share what you think

[bold sierra]

See the reason why i am no longer looking at gaming laptops is that they don’t provide much battery life

And the die early

I used to have acer nitro 5 i say this because it died yesterday

[sick lance]

Same can be said of any laptop that runs > 3 vm's

[bold sierra]

That’s true too

Dam buying laptop these days is a mess

[sinful radish]

Am I allowed to share a store link here?

[sick lance]

I can get about a full day on mine on optimal.

But there isn't very many places I go that doesn't have a power sockets.

[sick lance]

Yeah

[sinful radish]

https://www.jw.com.au/product/msi-katana-15-b13vfk-15-6-fhd-laptop-i9-13900h-32gb-ram-2-5tb-ssd-rtx-4060-windows-11-home
This is the laptop I'm thinking to buy.

[sick lance]

Providing it's not your own store,

[gray sonnet]

that's actually a damn good laptop

[sick lance]

I think a Uni peer has that laptop, it's got a big PSU.

[sinful radish]

I thought about building my on desktop with similar spec but 4070ti and rygen7600, instead of 4060.

[gray sonnet]

That's exactly what I did lol, but with a 4070

[sinful radish]

But it'd cost me 1800 without peripherals

That laptop on sale right now costs 2200. Buy or no buy lol

[shell nova]

Desktop parts will generally perform better than laptop parts for a given model, as they don't have the same power envelope

[gray sonnet]

how much would peripherals cost?

[sinful radish]

It'd depend.. I don't have anything on mind at this stage I'm not fussy or picky but definitely would buy bigger screen or even 2

[gray sonnet]

if you're looking for mobility and power, you can do what I did, get a decent tower, get a second hand macbook air(or any laptop) and remote into your PC

that's what I'm doing for uni

OR just get a powerful laptop

[gray sonnet]

assuming you live in australia from the link you sent

[sinful radish]

Yes godd I got social engineered hehe

[gray sonnet]

a 144hz monitor would cost you around 250$

[sinful radish]

Ummm

[gray sonnet]

AUD*

[balmy badge]

I wouldn’t get a Apple silicon MacBook coz then you wouldn’t be able to run x86 VMs only arm64

[gray sonnet]

and a keyboard, mouse and headset combo would cost around 160 AUD

[sinful radish]

It's a hard one

[gray sonnet]

it sure is haha

[shell nova]

Rosetta is a thing

[gray sonnet]

also considering the laptop is on sale for a limited time, you should probably think fast

[sinful radish]

Laptop or desktop. I'm also going to college next year so maybe laptop is the better in that case.

[sinful radish]

Yess lol

[gray sonnet]

if that's the case, I would HIGHLY recommend not getting a gaming laptop

[sinful radish]

Is that because of battery?

[gray sonnet]

my notebook laptop weighs almost the same as a gaming laptop, and it was a pain to carry around

[gray sonnet]

yes, but also very bulky cause you have to keep the hardware cool

[sinful radish]

Ahh so it's mobile but not really compared to others because it compensates for good specs?

[gray sonnet]

well, I wouldn't say good either

mobile versions of components aren't very good compared to their full scale counterparts

[bold sierra]

True

Plus heat dissipation is also a problem

What ever you do you will have to deal with heat and dirt

[gray sonnet]

gaming laptops quite literally defeat the purpose of a laptop

you will burn yourself if you put that thing on your lap

[bold sierra]

[sick lance]

I don't think I've ever had my laptop on my lap

[rapid merlin]

you never verified yourself?

damn

@nova hornet

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

May 29, 2024, 8:59 AM

[nova hornet]

how

okay

i am verified

[atomic burrow]

gm

[sick lance]

👋

[naive violet]

Nah that was true in like 2017 but we've come a long long way

Now it's just nvidia conning you by using the same model number

[lavish star]

is not broken

if you had installed previous OS on it probs windows can t read it

go to disk management

select ur driver

departition all the memory

merge it

format and partition

[wooden totem]

first of all how did you find my message

second, nope nothing was on it for a long time. It was empty of as long as I can remember

[lavish star]

Someone asked me a question just above ur message

[lavish star]

try to departition

had the same happen