general

[crude spruce]

how easy was it for you to find the download link under broadcom? lol

[sick lance]

Very

[crude spruce]

it felt like it was nested deep away. even behind search.

[night prairie]

oh i thought i did good 😂

.

[pallid gyro]

Guys,

I'm doing creative room (https://tryhackme.com/r/room/creative) and not working access server dns beta.creative.thm, why?

Using FFUF arrive beta dns name.

Message: (We can't connect to the server at beta.creative.thm)

[night prairie]

did u add the domain to hosts

[sick lance]

#room-help

[pallid gyro]

On the same IP?

[buoyant tree]

yup

i couldn't find it

had to watch a vid to figure it out

[pallid gyro]

Thank you!!! It worked!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @night prairie (current: #99 - 65)

[night prairie]

nw

[polar olive]

any one know how to hack a iphone?

[crude stump]

For what purpose

[quartz fog]

I only know how to make it vibrate

msfvenom -p osx/armle/vibrate

[loud marlin]

@mossy river

[sick lance]

Why do you want to know? 🙂

[loud marlin]

and this guy also 🙂

[polar olive]

Catch a cheater

[sick lance]

If you think your partner is cheating, just ask them, what you're wanting to know is illegal as it invades privacy and is considered a criminal activity.

[polar olive]

Ok

I didn’t know

I’ll do that good advice but I’m scared I don’t wanna sound controlling

[quartz fog]

ignorance of the law seldom works as an excuse

don't hack devices of private folks, unless a security audit has been authorized

[sick lance]

That is exactly what you're doing, I understand you're in a difficult position, but sometimes it's best to avoid beating around the bush and ask.

You'd do more harm if you hacked their iPhone and find out they're not cheating,

[crude spruce]

if you're wrong and can't "let it go", you will also end up (most likely) single/divorced anyway. Just ask and put it to rest

[night prairie]

omg it worked, i am hacker now

[sick lance]

Guys, let's not dog pile.

If a moderator is speaking to somebody about something illegal/unethical, stay out it.

repeat offenders will be muted in future. 🙂

[polar olive]

Ok

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-im-in-a-tank-and-you-re-not-gif-20408974

[blazing granite]

that sounds compliate 😂

[crude stump]

Complicated fr

[loud marlin]

@boreal scarab i hang them on wall

[cursive cave]

Trying to install ngrok on kali linux and authenticate it , but this message appears

bash: ./ngrok: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

any solutions?

[sick lance]

How come you want to use ngrok anyway? 🙂

[loud marlin]

can you do file $filename

[cursive cave]

lemme try that , i am a beginner

[loud marlin]

then for sure there is more than just one error

might be ok to leave ngrok for future

[cursive cave]

Usage: file [-bcCdEhikLlNnprsSvzZ0] [--apple] [--extension] [--mime-encoding]
[--mime-type] [-e <testname>] [-F <separator>] [-f <namefile>]
[-m <magicfiles>] [-P <parameter=value>] [--exclude-quiet]
<file> ...
file -C [-m <magicfiles>]
file [--help]

this appeared

[loud marlin]

replace $filename with name of the file in first command

[cursive cave]

but i am so much desperate to use it now

[rapid merlin]

Mmm new level

[loud marlin]

from your 2nd command i suggest you to learn more of basic before that

[rapid merlin]

oh i need to re verify

[sick lance]

Why?

yes

[quartz fog]

if you just trying to find a file, file will do that

[rapid merlin]

Shoot how can I unverify? xd

[cursive cave]

ngrok: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, IBM S/390, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, Go BuildID=HNr7-CBR19va7Qjnw7r7/pQtPKn0iCbKtNwgKBjlI/U8iwWnYDxJEh9uRjSTGO/vjJjiCmcnOUeHYLNDMhl, stripped

[sick lance]

Why do you want to unverify?

[rapid merlin]

Read wrong

[rapid merlin]

To update THM level

[loud marlin]

i can tell you that you need learn more basic

[loud marlin]

just re verify

[rapid merlin]

Mmm dont i have to unverify for that?

[loud marlin]

nop

[sick lance]

Nah 🙂

It will update your level.

[rapid merlin]

Ahh thanks

[crude stump]

How did a curve line turn into a }

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-sure-excited-gif-15304675

❤️

[rapid merlin]

Nice

[sick lance]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-wizard-hagrid-afirmation-magic-magical-gif-16533730

[rapid merlin]

Thought you need to unverify or smth

[sick lance]

That's only if you want to change your token.

[cursive cave]

i just want to solve this error "bash: ./ngrok: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error" it came when i try to authenticate it

[loud marlin]

google is u frined

[sick lance]

Can I ask why you're wanting to use ngrok please, this is the third time 😄

[loud marlin]

this also yea

[cursive cave]

i did but coudnt understand

[loud marlin]

that's why i say... learn more of basic

[cursive cave]

sorry i didnt replyed you , actually i am testing somehting

[sick lance]

Testing what? 🙂

[cursive cave]

umm gophish i guess

[loud marlin]

||bash commands|| =/

[crude stump]

O

[loud marlin]

oh boy

[sick lance]

Phishing is illegal, we don't discuss that in this server. 🙂

[crude stump]

[cursive cave]

dont be angry for that

i knew it , thats why i didnt told ya

[quartz fog]

https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/find.1.html

[loud marlin]

and that's why he asked

[sick lance]

If you know it's illegal, why are you still asking?

That's just rude.

[boreal scarab]

Fancy!

[cursive cave]

nah i am not tying to be rude , i am just testing some new stuff

[sick lance]

Which country are you in?

[cursive cave]

sorry if u find it rude

my apologize

[sick lance]

Phishing isn't something to "try" out or test.

I've already said it's illegal and I would appreciate you no longer ask for help in this server, this is a server dedicated and partnered with https://www.tryhackme.com where we dicuss Cyber security and ethical hacking in a legal and safe manner. 🙂

Are you trying to buy a subsciption or voucher?

[cursive cave]

alright mate , will keep that in mind for the next time

[sick lance]

Thank you very much, and I hope you enjoy learning in here, 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cursive cave (current: #2083 - 1)

[cursive cave]

whats this for?

[crude stump]

Rep

Imaginary

[cursive cave]

lines?

[crude stump]

Just shows how much you “helped”

[sick lance]

Try a voucher, IIRC India has issue with subscriptions.

[crude stump]

Wdym lines

[sick lance]

https://tryhackme.com/subscriptions

[sick lance]

It's just a rep point when somebody says thanks, or along the lines.

[cursive cave]

o

[crude stump]

Thanks uppers

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @teal spire (current: #2083 - 1)

[crude stump]

See

Yk what would be sick

A cybersecurity museum

[night prairie]

does bletchley park count

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2309)

[sick lance]

Happy hacking friend! 😄

[crude stump]

Never heard of it

Let me see

[night prairie]

iirc, it's where gchq started and where they broke the engima code during ww2

they do tours and shit now

[crude stump]

That’s sick

Sadly it’s in the uk

[night prairie]

miserable piece of earth

[crude stump]

Oh

[night prairie]

actually it's been sunny past few days, not too bad

mixed with a bit of rain and northern lights

[crude stump]

All I know is if I ever go to the uk, I go see the countryside

[chilly veldt]

Morning

[peak whale]

how do i add an hour to my attackbox? got a box that said it will expire soon and if u close this pop up it will add another hour but it didnt

[chilly veldt]

It's 8pm and I just woke up

[loud marlin]

did you at last sleep ok?

[quartz fog]

scroll to top, there is button that says Add 1 hour

[peak whale]

cool thanks, still says 14 min though

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @quartz fog (current: #1043 - 3)

[quartz fog]

refresh the page

[chilly veldt]

yeah, slept 10 hours

[loud marlin]

that is great then

[sand trench]

14 hours to little bella

[chilly veldt]

I am making breakfast
Pizza!

[fast inlet]

TIL Most typical Internet users will never see 1e100.net, but we picked a Googley name for it just in case (1e100 is scientific notation for 1 googol)

[chilly veldt]

why is there java in my webserver

[loud marlin]

lasnight you was talking with dolph with something about java

[chilly veldt]

kotlin

[loud marlin]

some issue you have or smth

[chilly veldt]

my android app

[loud marlin]

something yea

there was nice pack of java/kotlin books on humble

[chilly veldt]

I just read the source documentation if needed, don't need books

[loud marlin]

what's app about ? work or public

[chilly veldt]

work

[loud marlin]

ah

[shell nova]

Kotlin is great

[chilly veldt]

yeah, love kotlin, hate java

[shell nova]

Java is stealing all the good parts of kotlin anyway

[chilly veldt]

but I got a working app! I am happy

just need a lot more functionality

[loud marlin]

fell free to share to test it 🙂

[chilly veldt]

hah, no

the public can't use it 😛

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-panda-panda-dead-tired-sad-panda-depressed-panda-gif-10362692796597490493

oooh... finally... my bolts are arrived

[chilly veldt]

first reason: I don't want to doxx myself
second reason: it can't be used without a specific device

[loud marlin]

binded also to ip and so?

[chilly veldt]

no, as in, it's based on a specific thing, can't go into details

[loud marlin]

fair

[boreal scarab]

@chilly veldt I DROVE TANK!

[chilly veldt]

drove or drifted?

[loud marlin]

what kind of uneducated potato allowed that

[boreal scarab]

Drove!

[chilly veldt]

you should have drifted

[loud marlin]

aaa finger revealed...

[boreal scarab]

That right stick was a bitch. Left was fine

[boreal scarab]

OH NO!!!!

I had to raise my arms just to get into the tank. Couldn't put one in then the other

[loud marlin]

fat

[boreal scarab]

Broad shoulder

If I was fat, I wouldn't fit into the tank, period lol

[loud marlin]

aham... big bone's

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-im-in-a-tank-and-you-re-not-gif-20408974

[loud marlin]

im a fish
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F5y4ytMDTPM

and even worse https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iAo37Y014bM

[livid nexus]

When I finish my 8 week long course in Python what's next find a another for advance stuff Or just continue to improve?

[loud marlin]

is up to you

how good you wish use python

[livid nexus]

Super advanced level for pen testing and cyber security its his dream job

[loud marlin]

programing is not must for cyber. it does go with it if you wish to make things for cyber and so

you can start making things that you wish in same time as you learn

to learn more of how to

[livid nexus]

That's why I have this website for it

And premium when I start to work

[loud marlin]

that's all great yes. go with course and do expend when ypu leanr something. make sure that you understand

if you like to read. humblebundle have packs of python books quite often

[rough widget]

Bro i need help

[livid nexus]

I'm interested in windows stuff on the website I want to learn how to protect my Windows from any threats

[rough widget]

Which module shall I use for insert python code into picture?

[livid nexus]

To fight hackers you need to be a hacker yourself

[loud marlin]

that's ok. just if you wish to protect you need to know how attacks is happened and understand it

[pallid lotus]

Poor fish

[pallid lotus]

Not true. Plenty of blue team folks (SOC Analysts, etc), who have never been on the offensive side and manage just fine

It definitely helps to have both sets of skills (and that goes for jobs on both sides), but it's not essential

[loud marlin]

@livid nexus might this two books can catch you interest

[oak river]

[languid axle]

nice

[livid nexus]

Mhm I'm intrigued

[oak river]

How is everyone doing?

[chilly veldt]

slept for 10 hours, been awake for 2 and is incredibly tired lmao

[livid nexus]

Good I'm starting work in Monday

[loud marlin]

i have more in area of python but i can't dm you. and wish not to spam here

[livid nexus]

PDF where?

[chilly veldt]

you can buy them on humble bundle iirc

or amazon

[livid nexus]

Im not from the us

[loud marlin]

this. there is pack of python quite often. as i said before

[loud marlin]

humble is pdf all books

[boreal scarab]

@sand trench cheese

[chilly veldt]

you can still buy them from anywhere in the world

if you buy the pdf version

[boreal scarab]

Couldn't, dual control. So if I went off course the real driver took over

[chilly veldt]

skill issue

[rocky kestrel]

hiii

[livid nexus]

I sent you a friend request

[boreal scarab]

Alright, you tell them that you're taking it off course, not get kicked out and have military personnel there lol

[loud marlin]

got it

[boreal scarab]

They got a Stug III there, that thing could MOVE

[chilly veldt]

deal, I mean I do have friends in places

[bitter apex]

whats the best way to encrypt sensitive user data in a database in js? like whats the most secure and up to date library?

[boreal scarab]

@cosmic pendant this your area of expertise?

[chilly veldt]

what data types are going to be stored?

[bitter apex]

its basically just a json with all the user's data needed for my website

[cosmic pendant]

The problem is the key management, not the encryption

[chilly veldt]

passwords shall obviously be hashed and solved

[bitter apex]

yes ive done that

[bitter apex]

its all on the server so surely i can just keep it in a file

[cosmic pendant]

https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Cryptographic_Storage_Cheat_Sheet.html

But, where is your key. What is your threat 🙂

[chilly veldt]

what encryption does the server have as well

[cosmic pendant]

https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Secrets_Management_Cheat_Sheet.html

[bitter apex]

the threat is just someone accessing the database and reading the data, not accessing the whole server

[cosmic pendant]

okay, read those over 🙂

[bitter apex]

cheers

[boreal scarab]

DES

[chilly veldt]

DES NUTS

hah gottem

[cosmic pendant]

rot 13 lol

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-run-away-gif-23892939

[chilly veldt]

like microsoft

[bitter apex]

wdym

[chilly veldt]

I mean, gotta keep the server encrypted as well, don't want people to read everything from the server directly if they got access to the hardware

[bitter apex]

it'll be hosted on an ionos vps

[chilly veldt]

yup

encrypt the vps

[bitter apex]

cool ill do that last

[chilly veldt]

best to do it without any data on it

[boreal scarab]

looks at TrueNAS
looks at VM that's encrypted and on a separate VLAN with no intranet access: Kalm

[chilly veldt]

cause otherwise its going to take up a lot of resources

looks at AWS bill after encrypting our SQL server

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/not-stonks-profit-down-sad-frown-arms-crossed-gif-15684535

[chilly veldt]

I think it was like a $700 charge or something cause we had to encrypt all our servers

[boreal scarab]

@chilly veldt

Me on right

[chilly veldt]

tanky

[boreal scarab]

Very

[bitter apex]

ok so as the data is only in the database, should i put the key in the filesystem of the server (cuz i dont feel like paying for amazon kms or azure key vault)

[cosmic pendant]

so, let me ask you something

How could someone get to teh DB and not be 'on the server'?

[bitter apex]

sql injection

but ive already prevented that

so idrk

[cosmic pendant]

So, isn't the real threat, that they get on your server

[bitter apex]

true

[cosmic pendant]

and then access the DB as they please

and if the key is on the same server....

what are you preventing... really

[bitter apex]

yeah

so at that point theres no point encrypting just the data

on the database

[cosmic pendant]

There may be other threats that makes sense, but yeah....

THis is a very common mistake I see people make (not that it is a mistake here, but)

[bitter apex]

yeah i can imagine

[boreal scarab]

Oh, I was repping the THM hat when I was driving

[bitter apex]

im using sequelize to access my db so when im tryna search the database using model.findOne({ where: {username:username} } and the username comes from a user input, is there a way you can inject code to access the database?

[cosmic pendant]

no idea!

That's out of my realm there 😄

[boreal scarab]

Is it in Jabba realm?

Or maybe Jayy?

[bitter apex]

also would anyone happen to know the average length u should hold auth tokens for in cookies?

[chilly veldt]

until reload

if you don't choose to "save me"

[bitter apex]

yea but if u choose to save me

[crude stump]

Bruh I literally can’t get myself to remember what each of the osi layers do

Only one I really got down is transport and physical and of course application

[chilly veldt]

9 hours

personal preference of course

[crude spruce]

any insight on how to tackle imposter syndrome?

not looking for some deep psychological analysis. I know yall are not doctors.

[chilly veldt]

trying to remember a quote I read

[lime trout]

Does anyone know where your router pulls your mac address from?

[umbral bay]

Acknowledge that it is perfectly normal to experience, and move on. Learn in bite-sized steps and improve daily. 🙂

[boreal scarab]

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm really lazy
And you are too
?

[lime trout]

thank you again for testing those adapters fo rme

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @boreal scarab (current: #30 - 252)

[boreal scarab]

You're very welcome!

[finite basalt]

Depends, on a DHCP system a device will provide its MAC address in a request and ask the router for an IP

[lime trout]

so i change my mac address in linux, or windows doesn't matter for my wifi adapter.

i do the comands to view the mac address (its changed to whatever I say)

[finite basalt]

if you spoof mac address with software it is OS dependent

Why though?

[lime trout]

i then go into my router to view the change. it still shows original mac address even after a router restart

[daring swallow]

i love you

[lime trout]

it's usermode based isn't it

[finite basalt]

wdym

[lime trout]

it's all registry changes for spoofing

it doesn't actually take effect at lower levels

so when it's requested, the original pulls

[finite basalt]

no, that's not how that works

Any reason you're changing the MAC?

[lime trout]

no

[finite basalt]

Then why?

[lime trout]

anti fingerprinting?

[finite basalt]

Against what exactly?

[lime trout]

my router?

[finite basalt]

It's your router though?

[lime trout]

yeah

maybe i don't want grandma to know i'm connected

and i wanna look like a samsung tv

[finite basalt]

@lone thistle might know

[buoyant tree]

aye @mossy river managing to lift my body weight with 3 sets of 8

now what should i focus on

[loud marlin]

oh boy

[chilly veldt]

legs

[lime trout]

Just curious about how it's working is all

[buoyant tree]

aye I can skip that

[chilly veldt]

no

you can't

[lime trout]

it's in my networking security book about ways hackers hide their identies/traces online

[finite basalt]

MAC addresses are hard coded to the chip, you usually use driver level software to change it and using a non-standard mac is not advised and isn't going to do much in the ways of fingerprinting

[sick lance]

What you're doing is illegal

[lime trout]

no no no

[finite basalt]

Websites can't pull a mac address though

[sick lance]

What're you trying to do?

[lime trout]

Hey it doesn't say what the attacker is trying to do. It's just giving common ways that attackers hide their idenities when doing malicious activities.

Example 1) The attack uses a VPN to mask their IP address.

Example 2) the attack spoofs mac address to mask their network address when breaking into a local LAN

it's just generic bs

[finite basalt]

I think the question was more about what you're trying to do

[lime trout]

i'm in the pentagon as we speak

and i need your assistance

[chilly veldt]

lmao

[finite basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/univac-old-computer-vacuum-tube-computer-mainframe-computer-gif-15703441419802553808

[lime trout]

the local starbucks wifi is under attack!

[sick lance]

Trolling much?

[lime trout]

no i'm literally just trying proof of concept crap

try vpn = masked my ip

changed my mac = mac not change

[crude stump]

How often do you guys look back at the osi model

[lime trout]

changed my hostname = hostname changed

[near hawk]

I suffered from this last year. Personally just taking like a 1-2 week break helped me

[finite basalt]

but why? we can't help you without understanding why?

[lime trout]

I just wanna know how it works is why

nothing more

nothing less

[golden timber]

this comes from a feeling of a lack of confidence. increase confidence by providing value to other people,

[finite basalt]

It's also worth noting, these do not make you anonymous

[lime trout]

I figured you have to do a group of things

[finite basalt]

Even changing everything does not make you anonymous

[lime trout]

I was just wondering why the mac address wasn't changing in my router even though i changed it in windows

[loud marlin]

you can't change you mac

[golden timber]

you can't change a mac, only spoof.

it's burnt into the chip

[loud marlin]

spoof != change

[finite basalt]

It's not entirely true, some server grade hardware is designed for changing mac

[golden timber]

you cant actually change a mac though

[loud marlin]

some might

[lime trout]

well yes, i know you can spoof/change hard serialnumbers/mac on certain lan devices through EEPROM

[finite basalt]

some server stuff will let you so that you can drop in replacements easily

[lime trout]

I think Intel/Realtek but only certain chipset

[finite basalt]

That's not how

[golden timber]

isn't that still a physical part replacement

[lime trout]

no you can actually flash a new mac to it

so it's perm changed

even at bios level

[finite basalt]

In consumer hardware it's burnt in, you cannot flash a new mac to it normally

[loud marlin]

is not

i mean on bios lvl

[golden timber]

i guess if you could write to the chip you could try and change it but that's way above anybody's average skill or resources

[sick lance]

Source?

[crude stump]

Oo this is perfect time to quiz me

[lime trout]

for example, i flashed my realtek lan to all zeroes. and in bios it's all zeros

ill find the tutorial for you, one second

[crude stump]

Bios level is presentation right or is it session

[finite basalt]

did it appear as all zeros on the network?

or did it just break?

[lime trout]

it appear all zeros on my router

[finite basalt]

There will be hacky ways to change mac address but there's no real reason on consumer hardware

[proven quartz]

Imposter syndrome is perfectly natural and healthy. It just means you feel you don't know everything and you might be asked something and put on the spot. Just say you'll look it up and get back to them. Nobody knows everything. Lots of people know way more than I do. Work hard to make yourself better. That is all I know

Edit: Act like you know at least a little bit. Fake it til you make it; except when pushing to production. If you make a mistake, make it twice so everyone thinks it was deliberate

[finite basalt]

In fact, on your own network there's no reason to spoof your mac either most of the time 👀

So again I refer to scrubz as your port of call

[crude stump]

Damn I might have that

[vagrant umbra]

Hello can I ask something

[crude stump]

Speak away

[vagrant umbra]

Can I ask something I want to know

[lime trout]

And of coarse I cannot find the stupid tutorial that I followed. That was on a chinese website

[golden timber]

yeah the best way to combat imposter syndrome, is to realize if it goes away it's probably a bad thing because that means you might be over confident in your abilities. i think a little bit of honesty with yourself goes a long way, but the value you provide to others helps you to be confident in what you know, because people can validate that knowledge in you and rely on you as a result

[crude stump]

?

[finite basalt]

Again, there's no reason to mess with it, just do your research into how communication works and it'll make sense, you don't need to do it practically and I'd advise not doing it practically for a multitude of reasons

[lime trout]

What if I want my laptops mac to look like it's from the NSA though?

[golden timber]

There's easier ways to do that

[loud marlin]

you trolling right ?

[finite basalt]

To who 🤣

[sick lance]

Do you know many NSA mac addresses?

[lime trout]

Yes, I don'tw ant it to look like the NSA

[golden timber]

put a hacker sticker on the back of it

[lime trout]

Yes

[finite basalt]

Who're you going to hide your stock mac from? Grandma who's never even acknowledged the weird magic internet box?

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump can I hack someone phone and erase someones phone all data is that possible

[sick lance]

So how would a mac address make you seem like you're from the NSA?

[crude stump]

Op scrubs

[lime trout]

Nobody, i'm literally just reading it out of my college textbook and wanted to do proof of concept

[finite basalt]

Even then, say they had acknowledged said magic internet box, do you think they know which MAC is your device?

[crude stump]

Another one

[golden timber]

hey James, idk, maybe grandma knows a thing or two.. not just about MAC and cheese

[lime trout]

I'm not hiding it from anyone

Just wanted to see if it was possible

[sick lance]

That would be illegal, and a massive invasion of privacy.

[crude stump]

Why

[finite basalt]

My recommendation is don't fuck with things until you know how and why it works

[golden timber]

Yes it is possible

[lime trout]

And the only thing i've found possible was to write eeprom of certain LAN devices

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump because someone blackmail my girlfriend

[golden timber]

name checks out

[lime trout]

Hence the me asking questions so I can figure out how and why it works

[finite basalt]

Know what happens when two of the same MAC address appear on a network?

[sick lance]

Contact your local authorities.

[crude stump]

Law enforcement

What scrubz said

[golden timber]

https://ic3.gov

[lime trout]

yes

[finite basalt]

You can read into that instead of playing with what you don't understand

[finite basalt]

Go on then

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump yes I already did but I am helpless

[sick lance]

Aside from reporting and ignoring.

That's all you can do.

[golden timber]

If you decide to be a vigilante it will throw out the case and your guy will never get charged

[lime trout]

Yes, i've googled how does a router pull the mac address. But don't understand, my my mac address says 123:123:123:123 in windows but my router shows the original mac address even though i've changed it

[crude stump]

Let them figure it out. Taking matters into your own hands is one illegal and it puts you in even more trouble

[golden timber]

The legal system has an order. If you try to expedite it, you will risk some error in the process and the guy will be let off the hook

[finite basalt]

You don't understand how networking works then, the router doesn't pull the mac address, the device tells it using a series of packets

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump but he continuously blackmail my girl and he tell the girl he have something video of my girl

[golden timber]

that's layer 2 not layer 3

data link = layer 2, there's no routing in question with the mac

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump the girl already comited suicide one time

[golden timber]

that's all switching

[crude stump]

?

[lime trout]

You understand what I meant, yes the device tells the router what the mac is

[crude stump]

Makes no sense

[golden timber]

you need to report this to your local police station

[vagrant umbra]

@crude stump because of she is blackmail my girl that's why I request here can anyone help me

[loud marlin]

@mossy river

[sick lance]

I'm right here.

[loud marlin]

ah sry

[finite basalt]

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2131
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc826

Stop playing with fire without knowing how it can interact with a network and start reading lad

[crude stump]

Smh ralex

[golden timber]

you can't change a mac address, again

[crude stump]

Cmon man

[sick lance]

I'd appreciate @crude stump and @golden timber to take a step back.

[lime trout]

I'm learning this now

[crude stump]

Got ya

[loud marlin]

this is not thing that is to talk here... ill guess

[vagrant umbra]

Yes I already told the police but in here our country the police is so very dumb

[lime trout]

so when changing EEPROM data is that just BS?

[sick lance]

And how do you feel about vomiting a Cyber crime?

[finite basalt]

It may work depending on the NIC but it's not designed for it

[sick lance]

Commiting*

[golden timber]

seems very complex to pull off if it's possible @lime trout

[crude stump]

🤮

[vagrant umbra]

@sick lanceno I don't want to vomiting cyber crime but each cyber crime I want to help someone

[lime trout]

https://ohlia.github.io/Wiki-site/wiki/Network/Intel-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-Flash-Tool-eeupdate/

it's very easy to pull off

[finite basalt]

Eitherway MAC addresses form some of the fundamental basis for communication so you shouldn't mess with it unless necessary, just read into ARP and DHCP using those links I sent previously, you'll learn far more than messing with what you don't understand

[sick lance]

Hacking in to a phone, deleting data is exactly that though.

[golden timber]

yeah maybe read about dhcp before changing macs. understand layer 2 vs layer 3, very important rudimentary concepts to get familiar with first

[lime trout]

I agree

[finite basalt]

It's very specific to the adapter chip as you're essentially mimicking what the oem did when they coded it, that being said they aren't designed to allow rewrite usually

Instead look into the OSI model, ARP (RFC 826) and DHCP (RFC 2131)

[lime trout]

Especially when it's a home network with 3 devices on it. Changing the mac to something that isn't correct could be devistating.

[finite basalt]

I've already sent the links which explain how they work

[vagrant umbra]

@sick lance yes I want to his phone hacked and erased all data of his phone so that he didn't have any video or something or my girl

[crude stump]

Data link and network bam

[finite basalt]

It absolutely can be

[golden timber]

yea but you know there's a gap when you think switching is layer 3 lol

[finite basalt]

If you end up with a conflicting mac it can lead to packet loss and all sorts

It's for that exact reason macs are unique

[golden timber]

though I guess sometimes layer 3 switches exist

[lime trout]

Well good news is, you can always eeupdate a different mac back to the original

[golden timber]

limited routing capabilities though

[buoyant tree]

What if its backed up to the cloud, still pointless

[sick lance]

Yeah, that's what I'm telling you, its illegal.

If you continue to ask about this, I'll have to take action and temporary lose the ability to speak.

[crude stump]

Yeah

[sick lance]

Can you not?

[golden timber]

is it on the internet?

[finite basalt]

Yeah but there's no reason to mess with it and actually if you read into EEPROM at all instead of blindly following instructions, you'd know there's a finite amount of writes for them

[vagrant umbra]

Ok I am sorry but I just want to try someone help

[buoyant tree]

Sure

[grim sparrow]

:mute: payloads#0 has been muted.

[finite basalt]

I'm urging you to stop messing with stuff you don't understand when it's not necessary or advised and there are well documented standards to read

[lime trout]

You know how you learn? By messing with stuff

[finite basalt]

No, that's when they're not already documented

[lime trout]

Mess with stuff, and read why it breaks

that's how i learn

[finite basalt]

Well then set up a sandbox environment and use VMs

[crude stump]

Wait so why do both layer 2 and layer 3 say switch but mainly layer 2 switches. What senario would layer 3 switch

[finite basalt]

I understand fucking around and finding out but not when it's on a network with other devices

[finite basalt]

Are you thinking about the OSI or the TCPIP?

[naive violet]

Switch with routing features, usually related to VLANs

[vagrant umbra]

Is anyone know how to create a bot then please send me script

[naive violet]

A bot for what?

[crude stump]

Osi

[finite basalt]

Cause with OSI layer 2 that'd be mac while layer 3 is things like IP

[vagrant umbra]

@naive violet control any device

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: luciferchndpur#0 has been banned.

[crude stump]

Oo

That’s why

[wide marten]

I only had a quick glance at the conversation, but oh boy... The "burned in" MAC address of a NIC has nothing to do with the MAC address used in a network for layer 2 addressing. The former can usually (but not always) not be changed, the latter easily. That's neither complicated nor risky. Turns out modern phones constantly switch the MAC addresses they use to connect to Wifis for privacy reasons.

[naive violet]

What

They literally are those addresses

[finite basalt]

They do that very differently

[naive violet]

They come from proms

[wide marten]

Differently to what? I didn't specificy a method.

[finite basalt]

MAC addresses can be local or universal and when set by the OS they are local and are identifiable as such, they also tend to use a particular series of algorithms which should reduce chances of a conflicting mac

This lad is suggesting arbritarily setting his own MAC address and ignoring the OS and NIC and not worrying about what happens on the network if anything goes wrong

All for the sake of learning if it's possible, when he could actually be learning how it would work and why by understanding the network protocols and models which make up the basis of communication on networks, that was the discussion

[naive violet]

Eh it's flashing the NIC, it's more or less official

[finite basalt]

Not just flashing the NIC, he was also software spoofing

[naive violet]

You do it on low level stuff all the time

[finite basalt]

Yes but not manually that's the important distinction

[naive violet]

Yeah either works, just not a lot of purpose most of the time

[naive violet]

Nah you do set them manually on embedded systems, like addons for arduino

[finite basalt]

Yeah but when you don't do it directly, you're not in control and also not doing it for the sake of fucking around and finding out

[naive violet]

But you are

[finite basalt]

I never set mine on my arduino shield

[naive violet]

Yeah you don't have to

It'll be pre done

[finite basalt]

My advice is more about not doing it when you don't need to

[naive violet]

I think at this point, caveat emptor.
If you were warned and you break something, it's your own damn fault

[finite basalt]

well yeah but my concern is more for the others on the network

[golden timber]

james squared

[finite basalt]

I've accidentally taken down networks before and I can promise no one in the house was impressed 🤣

[golden timber]

lol simulate the service level agreement, put it on the resume

[finite basalt]

I accidentally had an ethernet over powerline providing internet to a switch along with an ethernet socket, it caused all sorts of collisions when they tried to send data through to devices on the switch until it took down the network and the router shit itself

[golden timber]

oof

[finite basalt]

I didn't realise, I'd had the ethernet over powerline as a backup to my room because the ethernet went through my parents room so they could unplug it haha. I was a nightmare child when it came to tech

[golden timber]

so did it just cause a loop?

[finite basalt]

I had about 5 different ways of connecting to the internet in my room just in case I couldn't use one, they tried blacklisting my mac and I used another NIC

[finite basalt]

Yeah more or less haha

[sick lance]

Holy moly.

[golden timber]

discord has parental controls

[finite basalt]

Was about to say, scrubz is an expert

[golden timber]

https://www.lifewire.com/discord-parental-controls-7629492

[sick lance]

No, this would illegal

You can assign parental controls.

Or just ask to see them.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @golden timber (current: #127 - 52)

[finite basalt]

busy night eh scrubz, it's a nightmare being an expert 🤣

[golden timber]

be honest with your kid is my opinino

[chilly veldt]

not really

[golden timber]

yea but the trust goes a long way

[finite basalt]

It's harder to not talk to your kid 🤣

[chilly veldt]

^

[golden timber]

doing things sneakily as a parent kinda ruins the trust

just my 2 cents

[finite basalt]

It also encourages them to go against you

I remember telling my parents, "if you put parental controls on my devices, it'll become my sole goal to get around them", they did it and I got around them

[golden timber]

lol

[finite basalt]

When a kid has a will they have a way, just talk to em

[golden timber]

yeah if my parents were just like, hey, we think you spend too much time online, touch grass, I'd much rather they do that then declare war and blacklist my mac, it's game on

[finite basalt]

Yeah, they tried that with me and I told my dad the next morning that I logged onto the router and unblacklisted myself and also used a separate nic to see if that'd work

[golden timber]

lolo

[finite basalt]

I word for word said "you must think I'm stupid if you thought I wouldn't know you banned my MAC" - I was maybe 14

[golden timber]

it's too easy locally

[naive violet]

My parents didn't even try

Knew it was futile

[golden timber]

yep

[finite basalt]

I then told him, I can use my wifi adapter, my other network card or tether to my phone, ooor I can log onto the router and unban myself. He said it was a password I didn't know and I told him I knew it, he didn't believe me until I one day entered it for my brother so he didn't have to get up

My parents accepted by the time I was 15 that it wasn't worth trying to stop me and that they just had to trust me

[golden timber]

i bet that password was on rockyou

[finite basalt]

nah it wasn't

[golden timber]

o

[finite basalt]

I got the 4 digit pin for my psp with custom firmware and a tool which would tell you it

[golden timber]

well i bet the router was on port 80

[chilly veldt]

my parents asked me how to

[finite basalt]

I got the generic password for most things by saying I'd forgotten the password for the antivirus when my parents left themself logged in on the admin account with the thunderbird email for themselves

it was back when trend micros password reminder literally emailed you your plaintext password haha

[golden timber]

omg

[crude stump]

Chat

[finite basalt]

sorry I was practicing lord of the rings on violin because it was in my peripheral vision

was always scared to practice so stopped playing two years ago but thought I'd bring it to uni in case I ever decided to get back into it

[sharp tendon]

do you play any paganini tunes?

[finite basalt]

I've never been that good unfortunately haha

I'll have to try get some more practice and get good at it

[sharp tendon]

hes a relative of ours...

true. even i cannot play it

[finite basalt]

I started playing in year 2 and stopped in year 11 but I only had lessons each week from year 2 to year 6, anything after was just playing in an orchestra each week and that was my practice haha

[sharp tendon]

practice, get paid too 🙂

[finite basalt]

Nah it was a youth thing so no getting paid ;-;

I did enjoy it but I preferred it for the social aspect and when they started playing grade 7 stuff I was falling behind because I wouldn't practice at home because I was anxious about judgement

[sharp tendon]

yeah, violins are picky that way, one flase move and screeeeech.

[devout palm]

I always wanted to play violin tbf

[molten sky]

looks like i missed the fun a lil while ago

[crude stump]

Rate my password 1234567

[tender zenith]

hey...

[molten sky]

it's just stars for everyone else
see ********

[crude stump]

Ah

[tender zenith]

How?

[crude stump]

Completely forgot

[crude stump]

Magic

[molten sky]

hola

[molten sky]

|| if you're asking about the asterisks that part was a joke ||

[tender zenith]

So i started an entrylevel cybersecurity course a month ago but I kinda suck at time management

[crude stump]

Are you a robot?

[tender zenith]

What?

[molten sky]

hey same

well, the time mangaement part

[crude stump]

Captcha

[tender zenith]

disboard verified me

[molten sky]

say orange

[tender zenith]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[crude stump]

Spot the stop light

[molten sky]

ya know who has good captchas

[tender zenith]

Who?

is that even a person?

[naive violet]

Let's not discuss cybercrime forums @molten sky

[molten sky]

fair not to name em here

they do have good captchas tho

[crude stump]

No

[molten sky]

wonder if anyone else uses them on a more proper site.........off to the interwebs

[crude stump]

It’s a monster

[tender zenith]

what do you mean by monster?

[crude stump]

Scary mean

[molten sky]

also hey @ James haven't seen that name in here in a while

[crude stump]

This monster right here

Steals computers

Watch out

[finite basalt]

OP

[sand trench]

rate shadows password:
correct horse battery staple

[crude stump]

Very good

[molten sky]

✅ 🐴 🔋 📎 (there wasn't a staple)

[sweet torrent]

how can i fix this?
i tried adding ubuntu's sources list PLUS kali linux's sources list it still doesn't work

[sand trench]

anyways shadow is gonna try for the sleepiest sloopity sleep sloop while the beep boop to the meep moop

oops

[proven quartz]

You shouldn't do this. They might not be as closely compatible as you think

[sweet torrent]

why paper clip instaed of staple

[proven quartz]

Night shadow

[sweet torrent]

then what do i do
ubuntu sources list alone still didin't find zenmap-kbx

[sand trench]

no staples emote

look for ppa

[proven quartz]

You can follow this guide, but it might cause problems with your config, as Ubuntu nmap doesn't have zenmap any longer. Do this at your own risk

https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-zenmap-nmap-gui-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-linux/

Or just use nmap in a Kali vm

[molten sky]

cause (there wasn't a staple) available in the emoji thing lol

[wide marten]

Personally I consider any password I entered anywhere online but the service it's dedicated for leaked and not use it anymore. Making this service rather useless for me...

[crude stump]

Wdym

You consider everyone of your passwords leaked?

[wide marten]

That the moment I would have entered a password on a service like the one you screenshot, I wouldn't use it anymore.

[crude stump]

They say they don’t save anything you input but 🤷‍♂️

Says if only uses the password to generate a hash

What the

Fina and productivity

[molten sky]

he means that if he signes up for x then that password is burned

ya

[fast inlet]

do you guys keep a file (eg csv) with all your password manager's passwords like in an external drive, "just in case"? Or nah?

[crude stump]

There’s a imposter among us

[fast inlet]

i have one but not sure if it's worth the risk

[molten sky]

cskills joined the cult day 1

[fast inlet]

in case i lose the drive somehow or something

[crude stump]

It’s a cult?

[chilly veldt]

I just remember it in my brain

[molten sky]

you mean backups of contents or saving the master passwords somewhere?

[wide marten]

I even keep a copy in a different physical location

[fast inlet]

backups of contents yeah

not the master password

[molten sky]

backups yes, but they are completely offline and encrypted

[molten sky]

stg

[crude stump]

Uh almost like they already got your password lmao

[loud marlin]

nah... 🙂

[fast inlet]

was just thinking that i have 0 encryption on my offline backup drives also, lol. dont have bitlocker and never bothered with veracrypt

[molten sky]

Got the original on SecLists lol https://github.com/danielmiessler/SecLists/pull/155

[loud marlin]

i use my sister photographic memory to backup my passwords. just in case.

[molten sky]

i wouldn't use bitlocker just cause it's proprietary lol

[fast inlet]

what do you use then

[loud marlin]

veracrypt

[molten sky]

/ luks / etc

[fast inlet]

'aight i guess i'll watch some vids

[loud marlin]

veracrypt for external bckp ssd, and luks for full disk on laptops

[molten sky]

wonder what the practicality of using gpg would be

[fast inlet]

tbh i was also tempted to just upgrade to win 11 pro on my main laptop

it's only $100 or so

[molten sky]

have you considered upgrading to not windows

[fast inlet]

😭

one day

[molten sky]

@graceful thistle Check diff https://github.com/danielmiessler/SecLists/pull/155/files

[fast inlet]

the thought just popped in my mind since i'm moving soon, and i'll likely bring most if not all my drives with me. "damn, what if they lose my bag or something and someone gets their hands on my UNencrypted drive with a .csv file of all the contents of my password manager?"
and yeah i tend to be paranoid fml

[molten sky]

encrypt encrypt encrypt

my boot drive is encrypted

encrypt everything

[wide marten]

Don't ever use a password manager that stores passwords unencrypted.

[buoyant tree]

what about android

[wide marten]

That's a terrible idea.

[fast inlet]

with veracrypt my understanding is that every time i want to access the encrypted drive i need to open vcrypt and mount the drive correct?
I thought I could just click and put in the password lel

[wide marten]

Modern android devices have full disk encryption by default

"disk"

[molten sky]

android for the most part has encryption at rest by default but implementations vary manufacturer to manufacturer

[fast inlet]

mh i use bitwarden, but not sure if the contents file i saved is encrypted as well

[molten sky]

bitwarden +1

[fast inlet]

could be, i forgot lmao

[fast inlet]

yeah it's great

[plush sierra]

in room : eternal blue
we can like "bypass" flag in last task, all flag link are in : C:/Users/Jon/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Recent
its normaly ? i think yea but its not a good idea

[loud marlin]

you can set some options. but most you need select and mount

[wide marten]

I correct myself, Android does not use full disk encryption technically. Files are encrypted though.

[chilly veldt]

IOS isn't either

😛

but yes, everything is encrypted with keyrings that is used to decrypt everything per app whenever you turn on your phone, though all logs, pictures, etc. is not encrypted if you were to extract information about the phone, only the services that are encrypted, such as signal.

this is a rather advanced topic though

[boreal scarab]

Jfc... Not even 5 minutes in being in NJ, 3 fucking cars come close to hitting me and weaving in and out of traffic

[molten sky]

welcome

[boreal scarab]

Can I leave?

[molten sky]

nah

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-leslie-jordan-gif-11334450875675318506

[chilly veldt]

just move

[lament tendon]

That gotta be a joke issue?

Right?

[lone plover]

Hello, quick question, what are the ways to know the PSK when it is changed, I mean A plan after the hack in case the PSK changes, (With Knowing the password of the router)

I have heard about DDNS or enable WPS and save the PIN, are there other tricks?

[finite basalt]

that's gotta be a pisstake

[finite basalt]

wdym?

As in for persistence on a wifi network?

[boreal scarab]

But family

[chilly veldt]

family is not needed

[lone plover]

Yeah

[finite basalt]

What sort of use case are you looking at?

[lone plover]

Sorry, I didn't understand well your question

[finite basalt]

Why do you want to know?

[lone plover]

For the same reason you ask questions of this kind, to learn, and to protect myself if that is possible

[finite basalt]

My question now becomes, can you explain what DDNS is and how that would be used for persistence? or the WPS code?

I'm trying to understand how this helps you

[lone plover]

You can search through Google if you want to know this. This is available on the Internet. Do you want links to the explanation?
Regarding WPS, I think the matter is clear. You enable WPS on the router, choose a PIN, and then register that PIN. By changing the PSK, you can connect to the router via WPS with that PIN.
As for DDNS, I think it is best to search for yourself to understand more clearly

[finite basalt]

I understand how they work and the risks they mitigate, I'm trying to consolidate how that helps you prevent persistence

How do you intent to prevent a dynamic dns from being registered on a compromised network and how why do you think that mitigates the risk to the wireless access point?

[lone plover]

Well, I've already answered this
But regarding how this can protect you, simply check the WPS on your router, and check the DDNS settings.

[finite basalt]

DDNS can be setup by any device on a network though, your router merely makes the process simpler by having the option (depending on device)

[lone plover]

Well, of course it is necessary to monitor the devices connected to the network

[finite basalt]

It's also worth noting that disabling WPS does not always eliminate WPS vulnerabilities

If you wanted to defend yourself you'd be looking at IPS and/or IDS, so again I ask, why do you want to know about persistence?

[lone plover]

But really, I'm still a beginner, I don't know well what this really means

[finite basalt]

Dynamic DNS is a service, any client can run it, it just tells the service that your IPs changed and updates their records, any computer can set a ddns client up

[lone plover]

truly!!

[fast inlet]

wrong gif

[fast inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846

there

[finite basalt]

There's plenty of cloud services which routers can be configured to talk to but there's also plenty of client based ones which will update DNS records for the domain provider so "disabling" ddns doesn't solve the issue. Furthermore DDNS would not stop persistence, it may allow them to stay on a network if the IP changes but that's it, if the network is still vulnerable that's how they compromise it. It also won't enable persistence to a wifi as much as the network itself

[lone plover]

But when the PSK is changed, the computer will have left the network. How will the device know the new IP then?

[finite basalt]

Devices don't connect to wifi using an IP

[night prairie]

Just when I get used to the new discord mobile UI, they change it again ._.

[finite basalt]

If your network is vulnerable or they already have persistence they may use your IP but if they're at that level of persistence they may well run their own DDNS client on an infected host or use a beacon to broadcast the infected network's public IP to the attacker

The point is that you're talking about preventing persistence when you don't know what you actually want to look at, don't bother with persistence, bother with keeping them out in the first place

[boreal scarab]

Nah, more NJ legal, federal illegal stuff

[finite basalt]

Once the basics are down you can look at other stuff after, like your intrusion detection and prevention systems. The entire point is to prevent them from getting on and gaining persistence, if they do there's a multitude of ways they can get persistence, some depending on the vulnerability

Mitigating risks of persistence include mitigating risk of compromise and assessing your network and what avenues they could use for persistence, such as an infected computer on the compromised network

[lone plover]

@finite basalt

Well, I think I did not understand well. Perhaps I should look closely at what you told me and use Google, because as I told you, I am still a beginner. There is no need to bother you with questions that I think will seem to you like beginners.

Well, thank you for your cooperation

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @finite basalt (current: #102 - 64)

[night prairie]

Is that something common? Running a ddns client on an infected machine?

[finite basalt]

Depends on the attacker

[graceful thistle]

hehe

[finite basalt]

and the motives

If it's a generalised attack it's less likely, if they're actively targetting one network they may well, either way it was more about the idea that the ddns on the router is likely not that important especially as it's not usually configured by default and doesn't prevent an attacker using their own

They're more likely to have a bit of kit on an infected machine which sends out beacons which include data about the network including things like IPs, that's what most C2s do iirc

[night prairie]

Ah okay, I was wondering which scenarios it would be useful for, using an implant with c2 makes more sense

[fast inlet]

been researching stuff all day and getting brain-fried

[finite basalt]

I mean there's better ways I reckon, like beacons

I feel like if you're trying to get persistence on a network most attackers are looking at using a C2

[night prairie]

What you looking into?

[finite basalt]

Unless they're looking to run something like a botnet on your devices, I find it unlikely that most attackers will care about persistence which makes it easier for them to get caught, they'd likely rather be in and out

[night prairie]

Ah I see, thanks for the info! @finite basalt

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @finite basalt (current: #99 - 65)

[night prairie]

Wait I swear I was #99

[finite basalt]

That being said I'm not the attacker and I'm still learning so if any lurker does pentesting and disagrees please correct me

[night prairie]

Oh there's 4 of us

[fathom locust]

who wanna learn c++ w me

[molten sky]

you never know nowadays lol
wouldn't put it past someone to open that legitimately

[molten sky]

the replies enjoyed it tho

[crude stump]

Oh that’s cool. So company’s that has different departments work on different vlans?

Or building

[rapid merlin]

So I got my computer stuff but I’m confused if this one connector goes in this spot since it’s not labeled the same

[crude stump]

Plug it in and hope for the best

Or on the safer side

Try to google different plug styles

[rapid merlin]

Currently doing that

[finite basalt]

Tell you what, I love that I can call my bank at 3am. I appreciate that there's less staff so I'm on hold but they've fucking awful hold music 😭

[chilly veldt]

I really need a new chair for my setup at home

my body sore from sitting in this all day

[crude stump]

Hate that music

Like why can’t they use some actual good music

[finite basalt]

It's like fucking piano and jazz, it'll put me to sleep

and it's the same song..

[chilly veldt]

apples got actual songs

cause they can afford the copyright

[finite basalt]

I love and hate virgin media's, they've got chandalier but it's quality is dogshit

Like it's funny and a nice change but it sounds awful because it's a phone

[lime trout]

DMA no work?

[finite basalt]

wdym?

[lime trout]

nothing

i need to read

[crude stump]

Mans trippen

Swear

[finite basalt]

I was listening to my own music but I swear to fuck if I hear another round of this hold music I might need putting in a straight jacket

It's so damn dull, I want rock music or punk music

[crude stump]

https://youtu.be/3NycM9lYdRI?si=FwlB-Yap9lbvynq7

There you go

[finite basalt]

They said it would be 6 minutes wait 14 minutes ago ;-;

[chilly veldt]

it's 4 am and I am sitting and coding

why do I do this to myself

[finite basalt]

Well I was minding my business and saw that a payment went out of my account when I cancelled my standing order

[chilly veldt]

I am sitting and working

[finite basalt]

I'm staying in the same house but paid the last month of rent so ideally I'd rather not double pay and take it off this year as I just spent money on some clothes and that's nearly half a grand come out of my account when it shouldn't have

[chilly veldt]

cause I like this project I am doing a little too much

[rapid merlin]

We suffer someone’s doing the things we love

[lime trout]

Direct Memory Access Controller?

What is this?

is it a virus?

[chilly veldt]

google

[lime trout]

Google confirm virus

[finite basalt]

I rang up to cancel the extra month and they said that's cool and that it may leave the account and come back but that it was fine and I said cool but the payment status is posted and not pending so I'm wanting to know if it is still supposed to be coming back

[lime trout]

What is a DMA Controller? Direct Memory Access uses hardware for accessing the memory, that hardware is called a DMA Controller. It has the work of transferring the data between Input Output devices and main memory with very less interaction with the processor.

[chilly veldt]

Direct memory access is a feature of computer systems that allows certain hardware subsystems to access main system memory independently of the central processing unit.

[finite basalt]

What're you talking about?

I'm trying to understand the context is all

[chilly veldt]

me too, cause without any context at all then no, it's not a virus

[finite basalt]

I think he googled dma and literally just looked at the website summary explaining DMA vulnerabilities

[molten sky]

chat, is keyboard a virus

[lime trout]

yes

[finite basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/naked-gun-facepalm-audience-oh-no-disappointed-gif-16368553

[molten sky]

man that was a quick reply lol

[lime trout]

you ask, i provide

[finite basalt]

He had that shit on speed dial

[lime trout]

i have my DMA overclocked

[chilly veldt]

[lime trout]

So i'm interperting data faster then you can send it

[finite basalt]

done listening to their hold music

[chilly veldt]

... that's not how it works

[outer rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/gentleman-giga-chad-sigma-male-gif-25702945

[crude stump]

Let him cook

[rapid merlin]

So I’m wondering why the f panel connector on the case doesn’t match to one on my ASUS motherboard. Any help if possible. Motherboard is ASUS PRIME Z790-V AX and case is Lian li lancool 216

[chilly veldt]

narh, stuff already burnt, if we let him cook more, then stuff breaks

[rapid merlin]

I’m still looking on Google but if anyone can help that’s great to

[finite basalt]

they're individual because they vary between each mobo

[lime trout]

Probasbly need an adapter or sum

[crude stump]

[lime trout]

idk i dont build pc i use console

[finite basalt]

you need to look at the pinout and connect them appropriately

[lime trout]

PS5>PC

[finite basalt]

it'll say on each cable and then on the mobo itself or in the manual and you just match them

[crude stump]

2 different systems tho

Not really a fair comparison

[lime trout]

PS5 is on top

[rapid merlin]

It’s a single connector not separate

[finite basalt]

sure that doesn't come off to expose several individual gpios?

or that it's not just a usb/audio one?

[crude stump]

What game is in your description

Apex?

[finite basalt]

can you send a pic of the bottom of the connector so I can see it?

[lime trout]

That is what I am making fun of yes

[finite basalt]

Like the bottom

[finite basalt]

there we go

that's usb

[lime trout]

how are you sending these so fast

tf

[finite basalt]

Plug it into the usb one, probably poorly labelled and means fpanel usb

[crude stump]

Just like that

[rapid merlin]

I tried but the holes and closed one are reverse

[finite basalt]

This hold music is leading me on I swear to god, keeps stopping and then restarting

[lime trout]

Apex Legends trash game don't recommend it

Been playing since release

0/10

[crude stump]

I stoped after like season 10

Same

[finite basalt]

tried turning it? definitely looks like a usb one

[rapid merlin]

So instead of the blank pin hole being on one side it’s on the opposite

[rapid merlin]

Yep

[crude stump]

Got boring real fast

[lime trout]

gotta push pred

[crude stump]

Now I’ve been playing Fortnite

[finite basalt]

it's definitely usb I reckon, don't know, are there any other wires?

[crude stump]

This new season is Trash 🚮

[lime trout]

my friend is dev for third party software for fortnite

[rapid merlin]

I thought so also but it’s not

[finite basalt]

If so is there one for power etc.

[lime trout]

he has freeze mode 😄

[crude stump]

What’s that

[lime trout]

freeze on hit

[finite basalt]

I doubt it's audio but I could've forgotten what the audio ones look like

[lime trout]

its cheatcodes

[rapid merlin]

Haven’t opened the psu yet but the wires for the motherboard and case didn’t have any other

[crude stump]

Hopefully he doesn’t use them on real servers right?

[rapid merlin]

I have audio connected already

[lime trout]

Nah, just unreal rank

multiple accounts

[finite basalt]

nah don't mean the psu, meant the case but it sounds like you've been super unlucky and ended up with a weird case

what case is it?

[rapid merlin]

Lian li lancool 216 and motherboard ASUS prime z790-v ax

[rapid merlin]

^

[finite basalt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/11q2uzr/lancool_216_fpanel_jack_and_asus_board/ here you go

does that look like a similar thing in terms of pins?

[rapid merlin]

I saw that and compare it to what I have and Can conclude that I don’t have some parts

[finite basalt]

can you show your mobo pinout?

[finite basalt]

yeah so that bit about the system panel header

you need to connect that fpanel header to the left side of that

you'll see that the bit without the pinhole on it matches up, the second half isn't used by the case

Just checked the pinouts and they seem to match, should just work

[rapid merlin]

It just won’t turn the light on for the power button right? From what I’m understanding r

[finite basalt]

I believe it should but 🤷‍♀️

Does it power on?

[rapid merlin]

I’m still needing to plug the graphics card and psu

[finite basalt]

oh wait nvm, nah

[rapid merlin]

I can share the parts I have

[finite basalt]

it won't light up a power led but I assume the case doesn't have a power led (otherwise it'd have a cable attached for it)

[rapid merlin]

I Guess I’ll go forward and see what happens

[finite basalt]

solid, gpu and psu should be relatively easy

the plugs only plug into the things they're meant to

[rapid merlin]

Ok

[finite basalt]

you got the cooler fitted all good yeah?

yeah there's no power led for you to worry about

for the PSU you've got roughly three/four cables to pay attention to the: mobo power ones, gpu power ones and the 24pin for the mobo

[rapid merlin]

Ok thanks I was worried

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @finite basalt (current: #97 - 66)

[finite basalt]

the 24pins the big one and that'll obviously plug straight into the big one on the mobo, then the 12 pin power which you'll want one 8pin and one 4pin one for that assuming the psu has that, then for the gpu that goes into the pcie slot (ideally the top-most one) and you connect the others from the psu 🫡

[rapid merlin]

I think I got thanks

[finite basalt]

they do tend to be self explanatory, like they'll fit if it's right

Big thing is that the cpu power cables and the gpu ones can look similar but the two won't plug into each other so dw

[rapid merlin]

I was thinking that but I had a few pcs from dell with a lit power button so I was use to that

[finite basalt]

Yeah some do but not all 🙂

[rapid merlin]

But now I’m relieved lol

[finite basalt]

All good man, good luck with your building, and remember, if it doesn't boot first time that's normal, nothings ever perfect first time 😄

If it doesn't check the psu is switched on, if it is then try making sure your cables are properly connected etc.
Giving you my advice now cause I'll probably be off to sleep in a few minutes haha

[rapid merlin]

07

[finite basalt]

o7

Just opened my new gripper protectors

Happy chappy

[molten sky]

gripper protectors is a new one...

[winged summit]

i like the ones on the left. stealth, heh

[finite basalt]

I aim to impress 😂😂

[finite basalt]

Yeah for running trainers they tend to last me a bit longer, I got the vans because I thought they looked nice, and ngl when I'm wearing all black and then I look fucking mint

[molten sky]

confirmed british

[winged summit]

nice. yeah, it's good to have variety if that's your thing.

[molten sky]

trainers and mint in the same sentence

[rapid merlin]

hey guys

[finite basalt]

😎😎

Only spent 80 for em

[molten sky]

ehm

what's that in money

[finite basalt]

I'll have to send a pic when I next wear em

[finite basalt]

80 quid 👀

[molten sky]

holy hell

102 bucks

tf kinda running shoes are worth 100 bucks

[finite basalt]

So like 50 bucks per pair

[molten sky]

oh total

okay that's good then

pretty cheap actually

[finite basalt]

50 for the vans and 50 for the runners

[finite basalt]

Exactly 😎

[molten sky]

vans i'd expect 50 but my runners are a bit more expensive

lemme see how much actually...

yeah like 80usd

[finite basalt]

Tell you what, my first pair of vans and I quite like them

See I refuse to spend loads on runners bc they all last a similar amount of time

As long as it's comfy and looks ok idm

[molten sky]

I don't wear em often anymore. I'd prefer an actual sole nowadays. Wore em around today but that's not the usual

[finite basalt]

I usually wear runners

[molten sky]

i've found myself grabbing my brooks some days just cause the vans were too damn flat

[finite basalt]

For the last 3 years I've had a pair of dress shoes and runners

[molten sky]

• boots

[finite basalt]

I quite like the vans, I'm getting used to them being flatter but I don't mind it tbh

And I feel like they'll last far longer than the runners

I should invest in boots purely to raise my height

[molten sky]

i've always felt like my vans wore out much quicker
cheaper shoe though and cheaper sole