general

[sand trench]

god meeps shadow is starting to want to play hackmud again

[boreal scarab]

[pine stratus]

why u needt that

hahaha

[glass nest]

At some point, you'll have to trust someone. Just make sure to do your research 😄

[rapid merlin]

I don't, I'm studying Cyber Security

Im curious about a lot of things even tho im not planning to use them

[pine stratus]

me too ; nice to meet u

[twin cobalt]

Make sure you check their ToS and their privacy statements. Normally the ones that can assure that condition operates on some offshore countries or countries with no log retention laws

[crude stump]

What is your idea of betray customers

[rapid merlin]

I guess selling data

[clear jackal]

An accident typically is an accident. Also, if you're doing legal things, you typically won't attract the attention of the Police or Feds. So, I guess my question would be, why do you need a provider that doesn't "betray" their customers. VPNs also aren't an end all be all of security, they just move your endpoint.

[crude stump]

well the accidental data leaks is kinda inevitable.

[twin cobalt]

there are multiple cases where that is needed, for instance journalist on countries with restrictive regimes

[clear jackal]

Oh, wtf that was two hours ago

[crude stump]

What was?

[clear jackal]

The message I replied to. I thought it was recent

[crude stump]

Oh

[sick lance]

It's because of all the new ones.

[rapid merlin]

It may be impossible but i would rather stay away from shady companies (vpn providers in this case)

[sick lance]

What do you class as shady?

[rapid merlin]

I guess selling data

[glass nest]

An Umbrella in the sun

[rapid merlin]

Slim Shady

damn i shouldve said that first

[normal fable]

☂️

[twin cobalt]

lol

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-hey-hello-hi-wave-gif-15504876

[glass nest]

You made me stand up...

[crude stump]

Usually if a company does sell data that’s used to train ai etc they have it noted in there terms of service

[rapid merlin]

woahhh

invite me to a dinner first

[outer rivet]

Ryan Garcia pfp crazy

[rapid merlin]

Thank you

[normal fable]

Legally they have to note it somewhere.

[crude stump]

What the

[crude stump]

Yeah

[glass nest]

I mean.. I as the real slim shady. all the others... well, they are merely imitating.

[normal fable]

If you need a secure VPN that won't sell your data or trade info with anyone... Set one up.

[blazing granite]

I'm glad you liked it 🙂

[rapid merlin]

They said Ryan was crazy too and the match result shocked the world

[sick lance]

Remember this is a pg13 environment

[crude stump]

There’s 2 did you

[sick lance]

Before these jokes go any further.

[buoyant tree]

read 2 chapters

[crude stump]

The big man has spoken

Leader scrubz

[blazing granite]

nice

[tame ermine]

hello fellow discord members

[crude stump]

Hello math

[buoyant tree]

nice writing style albeit probably not a whole lot accurate as to the dialogue

[rapid merlin]

Tyler Durden bio is crazy

[crude stump]

Yk what I don’t get. If a game has been abandoned and when they abandoned it, there was no bugs, and suddenly there are bugs. How is that possible if nobody touched it

[buoyant tree]

operating system api updates

[normal fable]

Maybe the bugs just weren't found before..

[crude stump]

Oo

That would actually make a lot of sense. It’s updating and adding new stuff thus opening up new bug possibilities

[buoyant tree]

yup, a reason why people don't upgrade to win 11

[gray sonnet]

They're neo banks

Complicated to explain

Google is better than me for that

Nope, you get a debit card when you turn 18

[buoyant tree]

How man

[gray sonnet]

16 when? I don't know what you're talking about lol

[buoyant tree]

There is supposed to be something like that in India also like there is in Pakistan

[gray sonnet]

This ^

[rapid merlin]

have you ever watched kingdom of the heaven

[gray sonnet]

Honestly I don't know lol

[gray sonnet]

Nope

[buoyant tree]

We got like sadapay, jazzcash, easypaisa and a bank which all gave me a debit card without manual approval

Just had to submit my id and dad's id

[gray sonnet]

Damnn

[glass nest]

Invest in Esqycoin.

[buoyant tree]

we sure you won't drop and run

[crude stump]

Will do

[glass nest]

Haha, Business lingo

[buoyant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sbf-sam-bankman-sam-bankman-gif-1550699019606486461

[wooden totem]

What is this random gif

[buoyant tree]

sam bankman running

[crude stump]

Aces: This is news 95 and I’m here with esqy Esqy: thank you very much AceS, in a few minutes I’m going to crash esqycoin, and steal all of your money. AceS: you heard the man folks, all of your money is gone 😁

[glass nest]

Hehe, I don't think I'd ever be silly enough to make a crypto. although Esqycoin is a great name for one

[wooden totem]

Shitcoins

[crude stump]

Wow such a inspiring name betta

[wooden totem]

No thats real

And they are shit

[karmic hill]

any mods on ?

[glass nest]

There's usually one or two around

[sick lance]

Mods can't help with that.

We're not site staff.

[karmic hill]

my box is running very slow

which server will be best for asia?

I need help with server choosing

[sick lance]

#site-support please.

[glass nest]

I've decided.. I need to 'Marie Kondo' my house. Theres too much stuff here

[wooden totem]

what does the phrase mean lol

[crude stump]

Can you even access a tryhackme box on your phone?

[tame ermine]

I have no idea what Im doing

[proven quartz]

Yeah but does it spark joy? 😮

[crude stump]

What you need help with

[tame ermine]

Im stuck at the Intro to Defensive Security

[crude stump]

Come over to #room-help

[glass nest]

Betta - Marie Kondo had a show where she helps people get rid of unecessary stuff. Basically, you take the thing, think if it brings you joy. If not, you 'Thank' the item, and get rid of it.

[blazing granite]

you got people spining with that sentence, 3/4 of the server problably is asking who the f is marie kondo 😂

[glass nest]

I'm gonna be more... Get rid of anything that I don't find beautiful or know to be useful to me.

[karmic hill]

of course

[sick lance]

I've done many rooms on my phone.

[proven quartz]

My piles of books in a cupboard upstairs that might not have seen light in over 5 years... Staying right where they are til I'm long gone!

[glass nest]

'Potatos: Eat now, or ferment and drink later? - An Irishmans guide'

[buoyant tree]

Just found out I have watched 85 days of tv shows alone

[crude stump]

Never knew

[wooden totem]

those are rookie numbers you gotta pump that up, 3 digits, 3 digits per year

[buoyant tree]

in my lifetime...

[tame ermine]

Potatos are at some point while growing so poisonous that it can seriously injure someone or sometimes even kill them

[glass nest]

It's ok Math - I'm Irish. I grew up with potatos as a primary food source 🙂

Also TK red lemonade and Macaroon bars

[tame ermine]

Ik but I learned that

[wooden totem]

Clearly never ate dirt

[tame ermine]

Ok

[crude stump]

Potetoes slap

[hidden sapphire]

..

[wooden totem]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-tired-gif-11030433

[blazing granite]

if you eat it raw yes, can be poison

[glass nest]

Potato Tartare

[wooden totem]

some potatoes are long, and some are round

[crude stump]

If you ain’t eating raw potatoes what you eating 😂

[crude stump]

I may be wrong but that looks like a squash

[tame ermine]

Did yall also know why snakes always look like they are mad

or do yall know that

[wooden totem]

That's why it's crying

[crude stump]

The way there heads are shaped

[blazing granite]

@tame ermine If the skin looks greenish or if there's sprouting present, that an indicator of high concentrations of solanine which is poison

[tame ermine]

and bcuz they have no facial muscles unlike us

So they are limited in their facial expression. cool facts with Mathijs

[crude stump]

Thank you for this

[tame ermine]

Np m8

Ill resume with what I was doin

[boreal scarab]

@loud marlin @heady nova I now have Military Brown and Military Green filament

[heady nova]

What did it cost you?

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/thanosgenerator-110-thanos-gif-15521580

[glass nest]

Military? so it's lower quality than consumer grade, but somehow 10x the price?

[heady nova]

My thoughts exactly

[boreal scarab]

I was watching a Senate hearing where they showed tiny bag of bushings that cost $90,000 to the US Government

[glass nest]

I won't comment anymore, as it may get into politics :p

[heady nova]

I got no idea what you talking about but lesgoooo

[boreal scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWie96j3aQ

(For my source)

[rapid merlin]

Do you know what's fun

Kings day

It's some day where through the whole country are festivals

[molten sky]

i love when companies advertise their products as military grade or milspec

thx for the heads up, i'll keep lookin

[rapid merlin]

Military grade encryption!

Buy it!

[molten sky]

military grade encryption is probably the only military grade thing that's not a step down tbh, just lateral

[glass nest]

I think it's like... Wow, this thing is as robust as a tank! But in reality.. it just looks basic 😄

[molten sky]

would be funny if military grade encryption actually meant md5 rather than aes

[glass nest]

'how much will it cost to paint this? $20 per item... hmm... Lets leave it blank and call it Military grade'

[simple kernel]

excuse me

[molten sky]

🤨

[simple kernel]

why on website i can see that i can use nmap with --interactive somehow?

[glass nest]

Which website?

[simple kernel]

but in the documentations i can't

[simple kernel]

a website showing how to do a leverage escalation with nmap

[molten sky]

i'll be damned

he's right

gtfobins mentions interactive too

removed feat?

[simple kernel]

man doesn't have it

[rapid merlin]

"when I was 16 I won a great victory, I felt that moment I would live 100 Years but now I know I shall not see my 30s"

• Leper King (Baldwin 4)

[simple kernel]

and even when i try to use the command

sudo nmap --interactive

it doesn't work

[normal fable]

That person pushing the button on that press must be making bank for those to cost that much. Lol

[molten sky]

just checked the nmap changelog (chat is moving fast so pinging @simple kernel so he doesn't miss this)

--interactive was in fact a remove feat

removed in 2010 apparently?

nmap 5.35DC1

here's the svn changelog https://svn.nmap.org/nmap/CHANGELOG

o Removed --interactive mode, a miniature shell whose primary purpose was to hide command line arguments from the process list. It had been broken (would segfault during the second scan) for at least 9 months and was rarely used. The fact that it was broken was reported by Juan Carlos Castro. [David]

[boreal scarab]

I swear, companies see "DoD" and think:

[molten sky]

i mean they're not wrong

[outer rivet]

W

[molten sky]

a lot of contracts are given for that reason, actually

[molten sky]

DoD doesn't want valuable wartime companies to fold during peacetime, so contracts are given not always in the most fiscally sensible ways (i mean even ignoring obviously corrupt ones)

[normal fable]

I made airplane parts for Boeing and Lockheed.. got paid $19/hr. Lol

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

[normal fable]

They outsource btw...

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ping-gif-20035980

[molten sky]

👋

[molten sky]

pong

[boreal scarab]

Ping

[normal fable]

Pong

[boreal scarab]

And they got paid $90,000 a minute.

[normal fable]

Likely... Lol

[buoyant tree]

Did you really

[molten sky]

anybody have some interesting security-related projects they wanna work on
i need a break from my annoying golang proj

[normal fable]

Yes I did.

Mainly rough cut of parts +/-1/100 of an inch.

[boreal scarab]

I was reading a post. On a C-5, for a latrine panel, it costed them $8,500, now with 3d printing in Titanium, it's $188

Yah, 8500 for a latrine panel, let that stink in

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[molten sky]

that's cause it's advanced military grade paneling

you just wouldn't get it

[boreal scarab]

[blazing granite]

that sh*t runs deep 😂

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[buoyant tree]

Man is that goodfellas

Watched it again yesterday

[pine stratus]

whistleblowers for example ,, yes

[urban whale]

thats sick asf

[boreal scarab]

TURTLE! Next tank will be a turtle!

[boreal scarab]

[twin cobalt]

That too, yeah.

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-turtle-power-gif-12279568

[normal fable]

I got sick of it real quick.. lol

Let's play a game. What kind of job do you think I haven't done? 🤣

[molten sky]

onlyfans

[normal fable]

Nope.. but I was a twitch streamer for a couple years... Close enough. 😂

[sand trench]

elite basketball player

[pine stratus]

beat maker

[molten sky]

bondsman

[normal fable]

You all are dropping some really good guesses.. and all are correct so far. Lol

None of those things I've done professionally... Lol

[cosmic pendant]

Cow Milker?

[normal fable]

I mean I've done it.. but that was just life. Not a job. Lol

[rapid merlin]

Hey, I've been trying to ssh into this but shows nothing and leaving me waiting here. What am I supposed to do?

[normal fable]

THM room?

[rapid merlin]

Yes

[normal fable]

Post in #room-help and I or someone else will help when we can.

[sick lance]

#site-support

Looks like MTU

[rapid merlin]

What's MTU?

[rapid merlin]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @normal fable (current: #55 - 122)

[glass nest]

Got one for you, @mossy river

[buoyant tree]

ceo?

[normal fable]

I did run my own business once..

[buoyant tree]

chicken farmer?

[normal fable]

I've had chickens.

[buoyant tree]

energy drink salesman

[normal fable]

More for laying than eating tho

[normal fable]

Have not done that.. I have promoted a promoter of 5 hour energy.. but not a salesman.

[buoyant tree]

game dev?

[bleak eagle]

hey guys

[normal fable]

Not as a job no. lol

[bleak eagle]

is try hack me worth to spend money ?

[molten sky]

If you can afford it, yes

If you need that for lunch tomorrow, probably not

[normal fable]

There's thousands of hours of free content to ingest.

[bleak eagle]

yes

i think i will save the money for a certification in ISC2 maybe

[buoyant tree]

why do you want a ISC2 cert

[normal fable]

There may be a point where you want to spend money on it. I recommend it if you have the extra. It helps the THM teams keep everything up and running.

[glass nest]

c'mon Gonzalo. you've come to the server for the site and ask that. You know what the answer will be 😄

[bleak eagle]

haha

i was between buying a tryhackme membership or hack the box one

[bleak eagle]

My bad guys

[molten sky]

alternate 🤷‍♂️ both are great platforms

[boreal scarab]

TURTLE

[glass nest]

THM is more learning, HTB is more challenges.

[molten sky]

thm is more instructional while htb is more figure it tf out

[glass nest]

but both do both

[boreal scarab]

Well, lemme bring in a HTB Employee @hot cairn

[shell nova]

THM has some great challenges!

[glass nest]

THM also has the charming wit of Productivity 😄

[hot cairn]

Please dont

[buoyant tree]

HTB academy is quite broken

[molten sky]

and htb has good instructional content as well -- just each of them have more of one or the other

[boreal scarab]

Too late

[buoyant tree]

I wouldn't recommend HTB for HTB academy unless you want to spend your time debugging a lot (different learning experience)

[glass nest]

It's ok, Hydra - I said that both do both 😄

[bleak eagle]

ok

[glass nest]

Yeah, Emma is still trying to source more storage space

[bleak eagle]

im followinng up this roadmap https://roadmap.sh/cyber-security

i want to become a known ethical hacker

but idk about the learning curve

[glass nest]

Gonzalo - Have a look at the 'Advent of Cyber' rooms on THM. They are christmas themed, and there are 4 of them (I think). Each day covers a different aspect of hacking, and are basically walkthroughs

Oh, and theyre free

AND the video walkthroughs are done by some of the well-known names on these platforms

[cosmic pendant]

they are very fun

[glass nest]

Also not mentioned as beginner 'paths' very often. I think they are wicked intros into this crazy industry

Each year they get better. the mini game one was great, clearly a whole lot of effort went into it

[hot cairn]

rn my internet is the bottleneck

my fedora mirror took off

[pine stratus]

try to ping

[glass nest]

havn't you got the fastest internet on the planet, Emz?

[oak river]

Could someone please verify if I have understood Diffie Hellman key exchange?

• We have 2 people => John and Eve
• John has his own private key => A and so does Eve => B
• John and Eve want to communicate securely using symmetric encryption
• In order for John and Eve to create the same key, which they will use for symmetric encrypted communication, they must agree on some common information
• They add that common infromation with their secret key and make a public key, which they then exchange via communication
• They then add their secret keys to that public key and both create the same public key
• They can now communicate using symmetric encryption

This is how I could explain it to myself after reading about it in Wikipedia

Have I understood it correctly?

[molten sky]

how dare you --- their names are Alice and Bob

[oak river]

Have I understood the concept at least?

That's how it works right?

[molten sky]

ngl i don't remember the first thing about DHE so i'ma leave that to ther others

[oak river]

Well, I'd be greatful for a heads up

[buoyant tree]

Yeah thats that

[blazing granite]

and Bob is your uncle 😂

[buoyant tree]

Alice and Bobert*

[oak river]

Thaaaanks

Thanks

+1 rep

https://tenor.com/view/postal-postal2-postal-dude-petition-postal-petition-gif-24359792

Hi there, would you like to agree to the public information?

[buoyant tree]

np

Just remembered PGP

[oak river]

Why are you still 0x1, if you know diffie hellman, you must be more advanced than an 0x1?

[blazing granite]

do you know the story about PGP?

[molten sky]

he's a phony

[karmic hill]

brother which vpn server do you use?

[buoyant tree]

Yup

Read the code book

it was in it

[buoyant tree]

mullvad or surfshark now a days

[chilly veldt]

Mullvad >>

[molten sky]

mullvad aint what it used to be tho

[buoyant tree]

wdym

it works great

and monthly updates

[molten sky]

no more port forwarding (for a pretty lazy reason) was the main reason i had to switch

[red linden]

Hi, What is this conversation about, if I may ask? If you want I can leave.

[naive violet]

Not a lazy reason, it kept being used for malware c2

[buoyant tree]

You use proton now a days then?

[deft cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/the-door-is-open-you-may-leave-gif-15357849

[buoyant tree]

Currently VPN's but a few min ago cryptography

before that htb vs thm

before that Alt Ez's various jobs

[molten sky]

The claimed reason was cause it was affecting other users (and when used for that, it sure can), but they could have very well relegated it to dedicated endpoints just like 90% of other providers that support it --- having both high rep and high support endpoint options

[red linden]

Maybe the intention to keep learning is one of the tools in the skillset, is it?

[blazing granite]

my hero, that's the way to stick it to the government 😂

[buoyant tree]

eh gov can be too stupid at times

[buoyant tree]

although am still glad it was the US gov not some gov like Pakistan's

[molten sky]

I have a handful, but proton is one of em

[red linden]

I did report them today, now you scare me haha.

[urban whale]

plumbing or garbage collection

[buoyant tree]

where did you report them, I would like to join

[molten sky]

Yeah, they're saying that they're shutting it down because the abuse was affecting other users. The segretated solution still stands as a solution (and one that many other providers use)

[red linden]

Do you like proton? I do still use it on the phone but I have no idea if it's good. But they say so right?

[naive violet]

Law enforcement was the first reason on that last
Where you're someone like mullvad, you want to have the least possible info and you want the least possible interactions with LE...

[red linden]

Yes the Dutch gov. Really, are we going for a coffee?

[molten sky]

it's fine 🤷‍♂️ haven't had any issues with them, but it very much depends on what you're tryna do, for the trust side of things

[molten sky]

My gluetun container is currently set to use PIA, alternating endpoints on occasion

[red linden]

Let's say I wanna be kind of traceable for the blue team but not to easy ofc.

[buoyant tree]

PIA was terrible for me

Constant disconnections

terrible speeds

[molten sky]

Every other VPN company the supports it gets the same requests 🤷‍♂️ there isn't anything special about mullvad getting them rather than any other company

The requests are just asking for data, to which they should respond that they don't have any

[urban whale]

for privacy or just in general? if we are talking about privacy then I wouldn't recommend proton as they do have a history of co-operating with law enforcement although there are ways you could "mitigate traceability" as for general use I would recommend, its clean looking and very user friendly.

this is ofc if ur talking about their emails service

[normal fable]

Included in apartment maintenance.

[urban whale]

as for a vpn

use mullvad

[molten sky]

Hell, we got those requests on occasion, and we didn't even support port forwarding

[urban whale]

wild

[molten sky]

It has very mixed reviews. I personally haven't had any issues, so I just haven't been motivated enough to reconfigure my gluetun

speeds aren't the greatest tho, that's for sure

[urban whale]

wait which proton are you guys talking abt

[red linden]

I can somehow not follow you cause I maybe feels some comments under the water.

[urban whale]

what do you mean.

[red linden]

F. I can't type.

[molten sky]

"it has mixed reviews" and "i've had bad experiences" are in reference to PIA. But the proton convo was ProtonVPN

[normal fable]

I have some good responses now when people ask me what have I not done. Lol

[urban whale]

oh yeh proton vpn is ass, I sound like a Jehovah's Witnesses preaching about mullvad

but

mullvad vpn is the best

[red linden]

I have to learn about this since I do not understand anything of you're comment.

[molten sky]

ironically, the only time i ever had any degredation of service with mullvad was AFTER they banned port forwarding

[crude stump]

Everytime I check this chat it’s talking about vpns

[urban whale]

every worked with jewlery?

[molten sky]

their ip reputation went to garbage long after it was no longer allowed in my experience

[normal fable]

Not exactly... Lol

[molten sky]

https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun

[normal fable]

Not for work anyway

[urban whale]

I mean a vpns ip rep getting damaged is expected lol

[molten sky]

but the claimed "port forwarding damaged their rep" was only experienced on my end after it was no longer supported

hence, not port forward caused in my experience

[urban whale]

ohh I see what your saying

[red linden]

Thank you for sharing this. I do love to read a lot, how did you know that?

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @molten sky (current: #71 - 86)

[shell nova]

got some new stickers 😄

[devout palm]

Groot

[shell nova]

no, root

[red linden]

Can you send me?

[molten sky]

I have a handful of docker containers running that I pipe through gluetun rather than having them use my normal network con

[devout palm]

Nou

[normal fable]

Oh man.. I gotta check the mail for my THM stickers

[molten sky]

nooo

[shell nova]

oh yeah, I ordered a bunch as well

[molten sky]

it says I'm and not I am

[devout palm]

So?

[molten sky]

isn't the thing I am

[shell nova]

doesn't matter, still adorable

[molten sky]

i do like the sticker tho

[devout palm]

THM Stickers i would like to purchase

[winged summit]

i'm going to have nightmares, but good nightmares... if that makes sense, err, cute nightmares or something.

i approve. solid

[shell nova]

Saving a spot for the TryHackMe sticker though

[molten sky]

oh my god
ya know how you can set a status on github with an emoji thing

[winged summit]

nice. i actually like your newest sticker the most.

[chilly veldt]

Time to do some coding

[normal fable]

What laptop should I get? Was looking at the Asus TUF A16...

[devout palm]

So cool

[molten sky]

thinkpad

[molten sky]

you need the red dot

[winged summit]

you got a thinkpad too. that thing got the Intel ME removed or something? haha

[muted halo]

hi

[shell nova]

the taking control one is also adorable

[normal fable]

But only support 24g ram??

[shell nova]

eh? It's an AMD

[red linden]

Does it matter what kind of laptop you have for Kali single boot?

[winged summit]

ah, i see

[devout palm]

Which thinkpad do you recommend?

I need to do C++ stuff mostly

[shell nova]

anything more recent than 2010 should be fine

[molten sky]

( a ) not really ( b ) why not a vm?

[devout palm]

And a lot of VMs

[shell nova]

T14 should be adequate

P15 is nice too, but much heavier

[shut hawk]

my latitude has been serving me well

[devout palm]

A bit exceeds my budget

[red linden]

I would love to try to install it in a pentium 4, shall this work?

[shell nova]

might want a 64-bit CPU

[red linden]

How to fix this?

[chilly veldt]

Buy a better pc

[shell nova]

yeah not much else to do there

[blazing granite]

I was about to say that 😂

[naive violet]

The tail end of the Pentium 4s were 64bit

Yeah some even had HT

[shell nova]

still wouldn't get anything based on that arch though

[naive violet]

I have one turned into a keyring

[chilly veldt]

My drunk fingers are fast

[red linden]

Because you drink fast

But I do like that

[chilly veldt]

I just hit balmars peak and productivity sky rises

[red linden]

I can't follow you

[shell nova]

this was recently scientifically proven

[chilly veldt]

There's a reason why my team is currently nr1 CTF team in the world lmao

[shell nova]

though the BAC is pretty low tbh

it's something like a pint or so

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, not a drop more or less

[oak river]

This is odd

[shell nova]

I mean maybe 2 pints of English Bitter

[oak river]

So on the attackbox there are 2 files inside the /root/.ssh folder

While on my kali there is nothing

Why would that be so?

[naive violet]

It's a deal, when are we going?

[shell nova]

you shouldn't be SSHing as root

[shell nova]

to be fair I probably owe you a pint for...something

[naive violet]

If you end up this side of the channel, let me know

[chilly veldt]

I want to go drink with you

[shell nova]

and vice-versa

[shell nova]

if you're in France, let me know 😉

[naive violet]

It's a long swim from here

[chilly veldt]

Will do!

And same with Denmark

[shell nova]

long walk, and a long swim thereafter from here

was actually at Sword Beach yesterday though

[shut hawk]

Boat trip!!!

[chilly veldt]

Oh @sand trench I might be going to Stockholm this June

[naive violet]

Nice, I think I averaged 2 museums a day for a week when I went to Normandy

[oak river]

Wdym

[sand trench]

neat... your chance of bumping into shadow is still low though

[oak river]

the attackbox is root by default

My kali vm is just kali

[sand trench]

as the travel time from most of västra götaland county to stockholm county is blegh

[shell nova]

the one in Caen is the best one

[oak river]

I managed to ssh to the attackbox from my own kali VM, my method worked

However

When I tried to connect the first time to the attackbox

[shell nova]

that's probably why then 🙂

[oak river]

My kali VM said that the address was added to known hosts

[shell nova]

that's standard

[oak river]

Then when I did ssh -i [private key] user@IP

I managed to log in with my own password

That I assigned to the key pair

[shell nova]

did you add your public key to the authorized_keys on the server?

[oak river]

Yes

[chilly veldt]

No worries, just wanted to say that I am invading

[glass nest]

James, I was gonna try to make you proud. I have a hot-air blower that wasn't working, so I busted out the trusty multimeter. Turns out one of the heating elements had busted, so I couldn't repair it 😦

[shut hawk]

wait why are you sshing into the attack box anyway?

[oak river]

Im just wondering why my kali does not have anything in the /root/.ssh

[shell nova]

bloody vikings

[naive violet]

Password/passphrase for the key file or password for the remote account?

[oak river]

passphrase for the key pair

[shell nova]

if the split screen doesn't work well, then it's a valid entry

[naive violet]

Shame, I doubt they're easily replacable on consumer stuff

[oak river]

That I set during ssh-keygen

[glass nest]

Aye. I was hoping it was just a loose component or something

[chilly veldt]

I mean, we are playing midnight sun CTF finals

[sand trench]

yeah the danish are legally required to inform the swedish if they plan to invade and if they invade... so good job

[crude stump]

Invade?

[shut hawk]

right but I'm more interested into why going Kali vm -> attack box -> target then just kali vm -> target

[shell nova]

isn't Denmark like across the bridge or something?

[glass nest]

Next time though, I'll repair an electronic thing with soldering and swearing!

[shell nova]

reasons?

[chilly veldt]

Like we are legally allowed to hit you with a stick if you cross the water while it's frozen

[shut hawk]

yes, reasons, hence why I was asking what they were 😆

[sand trench]

yeah bridge from somewhere in skåne county... or by boat from stockholm and gothenburg

[shell nova]

I though that was just hockey

[chilly veldt]

(yes that's a law)

[glass nest]

Hockey? Someone mention hockey?

[sand trench]

the nordic countries have a lot of funny history against eachotehr

[oak river]

So any ideas why attackbox has authorized_keys and known hosts and my kali VM does not have any of those 2 files?

[shell nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hockey-player-head-slide-celebrate-gif-5412615

[naive violet]

You gotta create them, at least the authorized keys

The known hosts will be populated automatically

[chilly veldt]

No, if they walk over Øresund while it's frozen we are legally allowed to hit them with a branch

[glass nest]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceship-space-ship-spacex-elon-gif-4835943

[shell nova]

aww, I thought you were like legally required to play ice hockey

[chilly veldt]

That too

[glass nest]

She's not Canadian...

[shell nova]

aight, bring the Schnapps

[oak river]

So I must touch authorized_keys in /root/.ssh manually?

[glass nest]

she's some sort of Viking queen

[oak river]

Is that what you mean?

[chilly veldt]

They just finished the whiskey/schnapps war 2 years ago 😦

[shell nova]

then add your public key

[naive violet]

Usually you put a public key in there

[chilly veldt]

Longest ranging war ever

[oak river]

But that is what you mean?

[oak river]

That is what I must do right?>

[naive violet]

ssh-copy-id will create the file for you as well

[shell nova]

so I heard. Decided in the most boring way possible too... with a straight line

[naive violet]

So there's lots of ways

[oak river]

but touch works too right

And adding the key

[shell nova]

touch will create the file, but not populate it

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, not fun

[oak river]

yes I will populate it

[shell nova]

assuming you have access

[oak river]

Im asking if that method works too

I just sudo su to my kali VM and I get root access

[naive violet]

Try it and seeeee

[shut hawk]

https://tryitands.ee

[oak river]

in a bit probably

[shell nova]

guess that happens when two of the most polite nations on earth have a dispute

[shell nova]

thirded

[oak river]

Well thank you both @naive violet and @shell nova

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @naive violet (current: #2 - 2130)

[shell nova]

you need to create the authorized_keys on the server, btw

[oak river]

there was

[shell nova]

not your host

just making sure

[shut hawk]

@mossy river about to hit a milestone for the coursework here (pages) 😂 😭

[oak river]

my question was why my machine did not have those 2 files

[shell nova]

because you never made them

at least not on root

probably on the kali user

[oak river]

Well I don't intend to connect to my machine through ssh so

Maybe I dont need them

[shell nova]

should be a /home/kali/.ssh folder

[oak river]

I just wanted to know in case

[oak river]

yes I already did stuff there

To connect from my kali vm to attackbox

With ssh-keygen

[shell nova]

those only contain client-side files anyway

[chilly veldt]

Nice? You think Danes are nice?

[shell nova]

these days? sure, why not?

[chilly veldt]

And I already say touche cause I just donated to a homeless person

[shell nova]

1000 years ago, probably less nice what with the looting and pillaging

[naive violet]

They're not there until they're needed

[chilly veldt]

Hey hey, we left them happy afterwards, we are better than the brits

[shell nova]

I mean the Normans were once Danes...

[chilly veldt]

But that bar is also low

[oak river]

Well, anyways, I have a raspberry pi and I will try to activate ssh on it

[shell nova]

and some Normans became Brits

[oak river]

It's annoying to use my TV with my raspi 3

b+

So I will have to setup ssh on it to connect to it through my PC

Or phone

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, we have Danish roads in Britain

[shut hawk]

When I went to Denmark I kept getting thrown off by the currency being a magnitude lower than the sterling

But the main library was super cool, I really wished we had similar ones in the UK

[oak river]

Yeah, gonna do it later

[shell nova]

just divide by 10 ish

[chilly veldt]

We have a shitty currency but Danish kroner is cooler than Euros

[oak river]

Any advice on what to do with my raspberry pi?

Pihole?

Mini-pentesting station

?

[shell nova]

k8s worker 😉

[shut hawk]

Yeah but I wasn't used to the change so had a few "wtf" moments

[oak river]

Id hate for it to collect dust

[shell nova]

vpn endpoint?

[oak river]

Uhh

[pearl snow]

when i try to use metasploit i adjust every thing correctly but the problem that they told me that you ip and your port are unavailable or used what is the solution for that bug

[oak river]

Maybe its too advanced for me currently

I mean to make myself a VPN

[shell nova]

nah, Wireguard is stupid easy

[oak river]

Saved it to google

[oak river]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @shell nova (current: #11 - 568)

[shell nova]

makes using hotel wifi better

[naive violet]

That is not a bug, it's telling the truth

[oak river]

Anyways, good night for today everyone!

[shell nova]

probably didn't adjust everything correctly

[oak river]

Gonna grab a beer and have some cheers for oyu

[devout palm]

That makes sense

Haven't thought of it

[oak river]

ifconfig and make sure you have the right ip and port

or ipconfig

Also are you using it on a VM, Linux, Windows, Attackbox?

Usually tun0 is the correct IP address on VMs

[shut hawk]

@oak river I personally found this guide useful for setting up your own ad-block+VPN server
https://github.com/trinib/AdGuard-WireGuard-Unbound-DNScrypt

[oak river]

Thanks!

[shell nova]

Tailscale looks interesting but I haven't quite figured it out yet

[shut hawk]

I did use tailscale for a bit but found it too slow for my streaming and gaming needs

Switched to wireguard and could definitely feel the performance boost

[pearl snow]

when i try to adjust the options of the exploit idon't change the srvport but i always change the srvhost

[naive violet]

Is this for a tryhackme room?

[shell nova]

that's fair

[chilly veldt]

TAILSCALEEEEE

[shell nova]

haha

[chilly veldt]

(if you didn't know, I am drunk)

[shell nova]

my ISP's router supports wireguard, so I use that

[chilly veldt]

Mine has so many vulns

[shell nova]

got any to share?

[shell nova]

I mean it probably does as well, but not gonna try too hard

[chilly veldt]

I got a bucket of 12cl Cuba caramel mix with green soda and lime juice

[shell nova]

(j/k, drink moderately, folks assuming you're of age)

[chilly veldt]

Oh no, there's a public vuln to it

[shell nova]

unpatched?

[chilly veldt]

If they have access to the ISP they have access to all routers they have sent out

[chilly veldt]

Central system that is public accessible, but is locked behind a 8 random chared account nr

[glass nest]

Or stop drinking. It's been a really nice year without it 🙂

[chilly veldt]

I can literally sit at the bar and configure my router at home because of it

[shell nova]

I mean I can too if I set the setting

[chilly veldt]

This is by default and you can't turn it off

It's a system hosted by the ISP

[glass nest]

But you are an elite hacker. You can do anything

[chilly veldt]

yes they store Configs and push them out from public

[cosmic pendant]

Okay, I think I"m done trying now...

[shut hawk]

Oh, toaster 😭

[rapid merlin]

My question is that in the introduction to cybersecurity, in the first question about offensive and defensive security, there are only those two answers and it does not accept either of the two, it gives an error.

[cosmic pendant]

Using 100GB raw text pw list and rules for modifiers...

[shut hawk]

Have you tried this

Sorry gdjcfovdioveumxfZjhxyjcgkcimcgkchnxllicvkgty6366_7+#8)+'-+

[cosmic pendant]

not yet hahaha

that's way more than 20 too

[shut hawk]

I'm sure it was the one next on your list

Oh yes, it's more than 20 😛

[cosmic pendant]

2821109907456

Two trillion this go around

[buoyant tree]

Jayy, I heard plaintext passwords can be incredibility hard to decipher

[cosmic pendant]

I did 53 earlier

[buoyant tree]

Mind sending the plaintext

[shut hawk]

[shut hawk]

Your poor 4090 has just aged a couple years from all that work

[buoyant tree]

oh k

[cosmic pendant]

Yeah it really did haha

[shut hawk]

I'm doing a CTF atm and one challenge is literally just an md5 hash with the description being "I'm not sure if this challenge is even possible" 💀

[clear jackal]

I just cycled for 30 minutes and now I am pooped

[cosmic pendant]

md5? send it to me?

[chilly veldt]

Which one lmao, had one last year with the same

[buoyant tree]

How much heat do you even need to generate?

[shut hawk]

let me send you the CTF details so I don't get us disqualified for cheating

[cosmic pendant]

Betwee my 2 GPUs, my monitors and me all hyped up on coffee..... Yes

[shut hawk]

https://umdctf.io/

[cosmic pendant]

I won't give you nothing I break hahah (if I brea kit )

OH those guys

[shut hawk]

UMD^^

[chilly veldt]

Ah, my team is playing

Well both of them

What's the chall name again?

[shut hawk]

https://md5.challs.umdctf.io/
Gl!

No solves

[chilly veldt]

Ah yeah, they stopped looking at it hours ago lmao

[shut hawk]

How are they doing?

Top 10?

[chilly veldt]

Kalmarunionen

So top 1

Lmao

[shut hawk]

Ah nice

How many players?

[chilly veldt]

8+

From a quick count

[bold dawn]

imagine you google it and the answer is right there

[chilly veldt]

(of players who are playing)

[sand trench]

using tailscale to open a tunnel into shadows home network sounds like a security hole if someone can compromise any of shadows devices while they are not home

[chilly veldt]

And then my other team is 53 on scoreboard

[shut hawk]

53 😱

[chilly veldt]

Iirc

[shut hawk]

oh

[chilly veldt]

Well not players, I was too wuick

[shut hawk]

I thought you meant 53 players LMAO

[sand trench]

initial internet relay chat....

[chilly veldt]

No no, that's top 1

We are like 50+ players in total

But not many that is actively playing

[shut hawk]

Damn must be fun

[chilly veldt]

It is

We are playing Defcon quals next weekend

[shut hawk]

Very nice

Glhf

Meanwhile I'll be finishing up on my A-Levels 😂

[chilly veldt]

Thank you, lasr year we qualified

We are also like 6 Nordic teams playing together for Defcon, but normally we are one team, we play as Norsecode for Defcon and everything else is Kalmarunionen

[chilly veldt]

Good luck for that!

I just remembered I have work tomorrow lmao

[rapid merlin]

My Gf

[lament tendon]

Meanwhile me:

[cosmic pendant]

8 more mins 🙂 I had to install some CUDA libs

[rapid merlin]

I'm gonna cry

[copper cloud]

You paid for it, might as well use it all xD

[lament tendon]

[chilly veldt]

Me when I open a snap software

[lament tendon]

Can someone not just train an AI to reverse hashes? 😢

[blazing granite]

Has anybody had a go with Budgie wm?

[boreal scarab]

Snapchat?

[worn thorn]

nice clean installation of win10 but I forgot to export some configurations of programs

[boreal scarab]

Cheers y'all!

[fast inlet]

do u guys know if i get a discount if i wanna buy multiple subscriptions to give away?

[boreal scarab]

That would be a question for support or @mossy river or @umbral bay might be able to answer that too.

[fast inlet]

cheers mate

[worn thorn]

cheers!

[chilly veldt]

Snap as in the package manager

[boreal scarab]

[green linden]

[shell nova]

you do not

[molten sky]

ew

[molten sky]

okay we're on the same page

[crude stump]

Do yall put stickers on your actual laptop? Or do you buy a case and put it on that

[worn thorn]

you don't need a case if you sticker bomb your laptop

[blazing granite]

What's that?

[steady pewter]

Yes, on our actual laptops. (but you can also do that on the case.)

It doesn't matter that much really.

[crude stump]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @steady pewter (current: #2065 - 1)

[fast inlet]

i'll get on that sticker trend eventually too

[blazing granite]

@boreal scarab you can't just post a pic like that and no details , don't let me hanging 😂

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, it was a response to the meme lmao

[boreal scarab]

Glenlivet 12 year

Trying Alberfedy 12 year now

[boreal scarab]

[red linden]

Is one of my favourites. Can I have one with you tonight?

[boreal scarab]

Hell yah!!!!!

[red linden]

Okay cheers

But I'm still in the que so can you wait a bit?

[blazing granite]

Floral notes also peaches, vanilla and pears, I like that one

[uncut hull]

Night all

[red linden]

Vanilla and pear are amazing.

[blazing granite]

Also a bit of fruit, but in that one there is also honey, the vanilla is more present, you can find some spices and also a hint of smoke

[blazing granite]

it's a classic

[unborn escarp]

can anyone recommend a good password safe?

[boreal scarab]

Alberfedy is pretty smooth

[boreal scarab]

Bitwarden

[unborn escarp]

thx

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @boreal scarab (current: #31 - 240)

[boreal scarab]

No problem!

[blazing granite]

it's great. I was in the distillery awsome place

[boreal scarab]

If you're ever on NJ or PA, there's 2 distilleries I like, Nauti Spirits in Cape May NJ, and Social Still in Bethlehem PA

https://tenor.com/view/scotch-alcohol-will-ferrell-gif-8134485

@blazing granite

[blazing granite]

I've been to bethlechem 😉 but there weren't any distilleries there 😂

[boreal scarab]

Social Still there is, also on the same road there's a meadery where you can do flights

[buoyant tree]

REX, my brownies are ready

[blazing granite]

I love brownies

[buoyant tree]

eating them with vanilla ice cream atm

[blazing granite]

I meant Bethlechem in the middle east the original one 😂

[boreal scarab]

Oooooh

[red linden]

I like this conversation

[blazing granite]

that looks like churros

[red linden]

The que is done in a bit, somebody is up for a drink?

[crude stump]

think it is

[blazing granite]

I'm drinking already 🙂

Macallan Double Cask 18 Years

[boreal scarab]

It is churros!

[boreal scarab]

Oh then I'm your man. I try very not well known distilleries, Breweries, meaderies, etc

[blazing granite]

What those churros need is a little bowl of chocolate sauce so you can deep the churros in and eat them

[boreal scarab]

YESSSSS

[blazing granite]

And I give him some advice from time to time

[boreal scarab]

This had vanilla ice cream, whipped cream and chocolate drizzle

[blazing granite]

IMHO all you need is the chocolate sauce, that how I eat the churros

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tipsy-im-drunk-not-gif-19274031

[red linden]

Who are you? So what about another beer and a coffee?

Honestly I can not even read your name. I love this skill

[sand trench]

matt or beerrise or cwgl or clanist

[red linden]

Does it matter?

Whatever

[buoyant tree]

or window breaker

[red linden]

Haha so they told me that on a nice party there always should be a piscornerright?

[sand trench]

anyways shadow is gonna go for the meepiest moopity meep moop to the beep boop for the sleep sloops

[red linden]

But no really

This cab drivers can be so unintelligent I do feel so sorry for him and he is such a nice person, but he just doesn't get the clue haha l

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ismael-bennacer-it-wasn't-me-i-didn't-do-it-i-didn't-do-anything-ac-milan-gif-259214599308328244

[blazing granite]

Trying Fedora 40

[molten sky]

fed40kde6 is solid

haven't upgraded my main yet but was playing around with it

btw

[blazing granite]

I'm trying the budgie one

[blazing granite]

I tried but didn't like it, been there than that a long time ago, even before arch existed. Slack didn't have a package system I compile everything from the source, so I don't need arch

Also used Solaris, FreeBSD, SCO, etc

[molten sky]

i'm in the middle on budgie. i really like how simple it is but i also don't wanna spend any real time customizing it to how i would actually enjoy it

[molten sky]

yeah that was just replying to muiri calling DEs bloat cause that was a very arch sounding thing to say lol

[blazing granite]

I've been using Kubuntu as my distro for 3 years now, I change it because Debian didn't recognize a lot of the hardware of my laptop Dell G3 so I moved to kubuntu

[molten sky]

not a huge fan of kubuntu but it's a good one to try

and yeah, deb as a desktop can be difficult sometimes

[blazing granite]

I've used Debian for years

Along with Fedora

[molten sky]

on servers where you need stability it's awesome, but it's easy to get caught without support on desktop with some hardware

obv not everyone, just pretty common

[molten sky]

fedora > last few years

[simple valve]

is there a big difference to using linux distros as a daily driver?

i guess my main reason with staying with Windows is 1.) ive been using it long enough 2.) i play games

[blazing granite]

Fedora is solid, but sadly there are software that I need that is easier obtained with Ubuntu

too many workarounds to make it work in Fedora. If I had no choice I’d do it, but why I’d complicate my life with that when ubuntu works out of the gate 😂

I did it in my teenage years not anymore 😂

[blazing granite]

there is no obligation to use Linux use whatever ever is better for you

I could never go back to windows but that’s just me

[molten sky]

there is a big difference ----

it doesn't make me want to kms

[molten sky]

re 1) i'm sorry for your loss and re 2) depends what you play but many work just fine on nix nowadays right out of the box

[molten sky]

ironically, kubuntu/ubuntu doesn't work well on my hardware (out of the box) but fedora was 100% good to go outside of just needing to install the multimedia group from rpmfusion if i wanted better video playback

[boreal scarab]

Tetrarch Alecto

@loud marlin @heady nova

[red linden]

I have to admit that I do fall in love with Berlin's Fairy Tales haha.

[heady nova]

Now that's a tank

[red linden]

I don't like anything that is related to war, so do I have to leave the world now?

[molten sky]

yes

[boreal scarab]

I'll be driving a M4A3 Sherman soon. I gotta 3d print one up, largest I can go.

[red linden]

You can do it.

I believe in you.

[heady nova]

Do you get to keep it?

[boreal scarab]

I wish!

[boreal scarab]

Max size I want, it'll take a whole day

Legit, size of the tracks, turret and hull is the entire size of the ender 3 v2 bed

Correction, 1 day and 11 hours. I NEED to setup my Octopi

[heady nova]

I hope they let you keep a shell or two as souvenirs

[boreal scarab]

I'm not shooting the tank, I'm actually driving it

It's taking 2 minutes to calculate everything

OH FML

3 days to print this

https://tenor.com/view/qletter-gif-20867961

$7 worth of filament

[worn thorn]

optimize it 🦀

[blazing granite]

3 days???

[boreal scarab]

3 days

[boreal scarab]

If I don't do 0.2mm layer height, it could be faster

[blazing granite]

damn! that's a lot of printing 😂

[boreal scarab]

Oh 100%, I need to bring up the layer height

OH WTF

It was at 0.1mm layer height for some reason

[buoyant tree]

How big is it

[rapid merlin]

I ran “sfc /scannow” on my Windows machine and it found a corrupted .sys file

Could that mean it was malware disguised as a system file?

[buoyant tree]

probably not

[blazing granite]

it means that you found a corrupted .sys file

[rapid merlin]

Oh wow thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @blazing granite (current: #99 - 64)

[blazing granite]

if malware disguised as a system file it won't be corrupted it would me much "alive" so it can do its job

[floral geyser]

Couldn’t the message be fake?

[rapid merlin]

And you’re 100% sure “sfc /scannow” doesn’t detect that the .sys file wasn’t manipulated?

[boreal scarab]

The size of my Ender 3 v2 bed

[floral geyser]

You could upload the file to virus total and let it scan for you

[rapid merlin]

But I guess .sys isn’t the usual extension a black hat would use anyways

[boreal scarab]

https://youtu.be/uLinZBNYkn0?si=vD4pP-UaUv6H_E7L

Ah yes, let's give bad actors, to not just your network, but your entire power grid

[blazing granite]

use Malwarebytes to be sure

[rapid merlin]

Hell yeah let’s connect everything to the internet

[molten sky]

i'm 50/50 on stud pack

[blazing granite]

the issue is that security of IoT devices is sh*t

[rapid merlin]

Can’t wait to see the first AI robot to get hacked

It’s inevitable anyways

[molten sky]

well yeah, that's what the S stands for

( the s in iot stands for security )

[blazing granite]

most IoT devices are built without security in mind, the end point is convenience

[blazing granite]

in a long run probably, but I don't see that happening anytime soon

[brave agate]

whats the differnce between
pwncat
and
pwncat-cs
?
It's the same tool, just curious what the difference is..

[molten sky]

pwncat is the thing

pwncat-cs is what it's called on pypi (where it comes from when you use pip to install)

[blazing granite]

one has -cs at the end 😂

[clear jackal]

How you heard of a Smart Meter?

Probably on the side of your building, installed by the electric company?

The access is already given

[molten sky]

eh

not really

a smart meter has no control, it can only read

and it reads via induction rather than being in the middle

[boreal scarab]

It also doesn't have fiber....

[molten sky]

same mechanism as before, only the data is transmitted wirelessly

[molten sky]

ngl confused abt this one

unless you mean it needs a banana

[boreal scarab]

Yah, it needs bananas!

All the bananas!

[whole yew]

Please interact with the community before posting ads. We generally don't allow self promotion.

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-dance-happy-excited-gif-23985011

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-its-peanut-butter-jelly-time-gif-7905602

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-vacuuming-slurpvacuum-briankik-gif-26319223

[clear jackal]

Not entirely sure about that on all models, but I know of a couple of instances where they have been hacked and made to do things they weren't intended to do.

[molten sky]

Not possible with most types

The meter is physically not part of the circuit

[clear jackal]

Genuinely curious, do you work with infrastructure?

I don't specifically per say, which is why I am asking, but have dabbled

[molten sky]

Nah I just go down 3 hour rabbit holes when something interesting comes up

lemme grab something about how it measures...

(obviously some can function differently, but normally it's induction)

[clear jackal]

It's not the measuring part that I was referring to, it's the access part.

[crude stump]

What would infrastructure be. Like systems?

[clear jackal]

Access/denial of access to electricity

[molten sky]

yeah but all they can do with access is see how much power you're using or tell it to report a different number

they can't turn it off

it's literally just a measurement device, no control over the circuit

[clear jackal]

I know that's not true

[molten sky]

well it can't turn off what it physically doesn't touch

[clear jackal]

The hack I was referring to earlier took over the devices and spread like a worm through the lab letting the "actors" do what they wanted

I'll see if I can find it, but pretty sure it was a Defcon/Black Hat talk

[molten sky]

do you have a ref? cause that wouldn't apply to 90% of types but there could be a subset that has some weird stuff added

just read "i'll see if i can find it" so ignore the first part

[whole yew]

We don't allow surveys and forms for school or coursework here.

[molten sky]

on overtime today

[clear jackal]

If I can't find the video, I'll pull my ICS410 materials out. It might have been in there

[whole yew]

Mods aren't employees, we're volunteers

[molten sky]

figurative speech, lol

cause they just keep coming it seems

[whole yew]

this is no where near the heaviest it's been for spam like that

[molten sky]

ngl haven't seen it bad in a while

had one instance a while ago with not-very-thm-friendly material when mods were asleep, but that was a one time event in itself

[chilly veldt]

Sup sup

[crude stump]

😱

[chilly veldt]

Currently on my way home at 5:20 am

[molten sky]

@clear jackal Seems that some companies are beginning to add those mechanisms to their meters, but that's not part of the metering itself

that's a bespoke function unrelated to the tracking

[clear jackal]

tbh, I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength. So idk how to respond.

[molten sky]

actually just found a good video explaining both functions --- hold on

[clear jackal]

I was responding in reference to access given

Not the metering itself or anything like that

[molten sky]

yeah what i was saying is that traditionally these "smart meters" were often literally just meters
the disconnect part is being added more frequently than before, it seems

similar to how water meters are often read remotely but they also don't have a remote disconnect

( for those meters that have the remote disconnect feature built in, then yea, is no good )

we actually just had our PoCo come and swap our meter out for one last month or so
the fucking asshole pulled the meter while I was working

thank god i have a ups at this desk

[clear jackal]

Not even the disconnect part on the meters tbh. The feedback from the meters is a metric that gets sent to, and I am blanking on the name, a centralized location where they control how much energy is being provided to the grid. Through spinning up and spinning down generation facilities to meet demand.

[molten sky]

eh... not really but i see where you're coming from

electricity isn't generated based on those meters, just as they weren't before --

[clear jackal]

That belongs after my previous message

[molten sky]

the meters are only for billing purposes

[clear jackal]

Not to the ones you just sent

The smart meters are an endpoint that provides data like in an enterprise environment.

[molten sky]

si, but the data isn't used to determine how much power is generated

[clear jackal]

Not on its own, no.

[molten sky]

it never really is - that data would be too delayed to be valuable

[clear jackal]

@cosmic pendant you did your PhD in infra right? Do you have any additional insight?

[molten sky]

power use changes instantaneously - gen plants just work to maintain 60hz and gradually scale up and down as the voltage and that changes

it's less about "what did our meters say" and more "we just dropped x% voltage and need to step up generation to meet this new demand"

[clear jackal]

OK, I'm not sure why we're moving goalposts. I don't think I said that it would a) be instantaneous or b) was the only metric.

[molten sky]

is toaster actually in this type of infra

[clear jackal]

Critical infra iirc

[molten sky]

you didn't say it would be instantanous nor that it was the only metric -- i just said that it's not any metric use for generation and used it not being fast enough as the reason

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[molten sky]

TIL. I didn't realize he was actually in that field. Curious where he stands

[molten sky]

👋

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-nickfifs-fire-goose-hook-gif-20475840

hey @whole yewy

[clear jackal]

Already notified

[whole yew]

you've been told already, don't do this. Do not post this again.

[blazing granite]

@whole yew maybe you want to subscribe

[molten sky]

right? how would we know if he never asked

[blazing granite]

you're fast 😂

[marble bloom]

Ok

[whole yew]

It usually stays until the channel is opened.

Unless discord has managed to write code that does away with ghost-pings

[molten sky]

well the message stays yellow

so that's good to know (for myself)

[buoyant tree]

I LOVE LIVE CHAT, talking to Razer live chat for warranty

And they just straight up sent me all thier client side information

[molten sky]

🤨

[buoyant tree]

Sent me thier employee info as well as the link to thier internal dashboard

[gritty fern]

Hi everyone

[buoyant tree]

Was just complaining about a email I didn't receive

[molten sky]

how do you even do that

[gritty fern]

Im about to buy my first desktop

[molten sky]

hola

[buoyant tree]

Dunno, he was like Here you go I did my job and it just ain't working here's the proof

[buoyant tree]

which one

gaming or normal

you got the periperals to match it

[gritty fern]

Mixed

I didnt need much because i play very minimal amount of games

Most of them being like Portal and CS

but i also needed it to run a linux vm

[buoyant tree]

how many times does someone need to play portal

[gritty fern]

el- eleven…

and portal 2 like 7

[buoyant tree]

i have no words

play some other games

[gritty fern]

My parents dont let me buy new games usually

[buoyant tree]

ah k

there are also free games

I usually just save up my own cash and buy

[molten sky]

gotta get 100% on all of the portals

[gritty fern]

I need cash for car insurance rn

[buoyant tree]

Your last two messages contradict each other

[gritty fern]

how so

[buoyant tree]

car insurance and parents not letting you buy new games

[gritty fern]

What about them?

[buoyant tree]

Car insurance implies you are old enough to drive a car and probably own one