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Changed it ages ago.
Less sugar π¦
whats the benefit? isnt the whole point of doing this to learn?
When downloading software, you can check if the hash of the file matches the hash that the software developer gave you right?
It is
Yoy can still learn from writeups...
NOOOO WAAAAAY
Correct
Nooo!!!
So what if for example someone took a screenshot of a JPG? Would that screenshot have a different hash than the original?
But if itβs the wrong hash whatβs even the point of checking. Still downloaded bad software. Investigation Maybe?
Yes
Yeah?
It's a completely different file.
Hackers can change the hash on the website so it matches the one they uploaded which is malic
It's very important not just from security standpoint. Like if it's installation media for OS, you can brick your setup if it's corrupted
I know how to play, but I haven't played in ages
Malicious
Or a new firmware for a device
Ah
Thatβs scary
Okay nice so a matching hash is a sure way to tell the file wasnβt manipulated with?
Oo
that just kinda defeats the point tho no? tjhe questions at the end get your brain to pay better attention to the content so you know the answers
Good !!
come back again
When your teacher gives you filled in notes to study do you learn?
Thatβs the same idea
If you just copy pasting answers it's useless, yes. If you learn from what you missed from someone who didn't, it's invaluable
Hi! Guys I don't know if this server is for this but i have a problem with offline ai ollama on my cmd, does someone knows anything about ollama?
Good writeups don't just provide answers. They narrate the methodology and way of thinking
Why the author did this then that
Personally the only time I glance at a write up is if Iβm struggling on a answer for hours and am not give anywheres with it
And even then I try to get the answer myself after
I read writeups all the time!
the good ones do π
See the software people used. Tools. What they did different
ohhh okay i just misunderstood the point lol i thought there was people just copy pasting asnwers to get through the lessons faster lmao
Etc
where u can check the hash of the software ?
Some people do and some donβt
Some developers have it on their website
that would be answer dumps
some software, comes with the hash file or you can download it from the developer/company website
i see now
any articles abt this topic ?
Hm I think scrubs will tell you thatβs a advanced topic only
Iβm curious how does an Antivirus detect malware or an AI detects illegal multimedia, is it the hash of the file? Is it the file not being somehow verified?
just wanna read hahah
There are various means. From basic file hash, to heuristic analysis of calls made by any software
For media, it's also matching it like shazam does
Looking for close enough match in sample dbs
Also the antivirus prolly has a data base of known malicious hashes too. Sort of like virus total
Thatβs so clever
I wish I could create my own software like that
Like a noob version
Fluff, I will be walking like you tomorrow, bent over with a bad back
Nooo
You can. Might take a lil bit but itβs possible
The og Shazam
Get it, cause you're old
I am tired
Ban ban ban
For me it's because I am working outπ
Same
I mean itβs not your own antivirus but you could create scripts for snort to use and block traffic
taking over the security work left me with a lot to catch up on
rudeeeeeeeeeeeeeee π π
Ikr
Why...
however, I am in charge of our web security, and doing a lot of our general security as well
Thanks !
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just sayin hi
that's....somethings not right in that...I just can't put my finger on it
Are you enjoying it Darek
I don't want to be inside that car for sure π
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Guys I don't know if this server is for this but i have a problem with offline ai ollama on my cmd, does someone knows anything about ollama
yeah
Anything about that google position?
Why not
too bumpy for my taste π
I am allowed
Confirmed. Bella is allowed. Deal. π
This server is for the TryHackMe learning website. You're probably better off asking in a more LLM based server.
okay thanks
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ngl the only time i use books for this stuff is when i'm reviewing for a cert or something
otherwise all labs
oh haha but i like learning from book
things just move way to quickly π€·ββοΈ any book would either be outdated or highly theoretical i feel like
someone may have a suggestion still i just can't picture it lol
It's hard to give recommendations if we don't know what you're trying to start. We do have a #bookclub and we also have #start-here.
yeah i kinda just assumed sast/dast bc of thm, but could be anything really
What do you guys think about this build?
there's literally 1 nividia component...
well here's an intel one
which one's better
that's too much
I am not going for an AMD GPU
is try hack me even working?
bad experience
yup
weird seeing that the 13700 has 16 cores but 24 threads
e cores
i forget they're doing that weird only-perf-cores-hyperthreaded thing now
What's your intended use Vain?
well, mostly an AD lab and medium gaming
I'm getting the 4070 cause I'm getting ready for GTA 6 lol
if it were me, i'd pick the 13700 over the 7700 simply due to thread count, but that's more valuable for my workload nowadays
I have the Tomahawk motherboard, it's decent
aye, it falls in my budget so I chose that
it has 3 nvme slots, so I have a lot of upgrade space in the future
You're missing slow storage
aye
i would swap the 1tb nvme for a 2tb tbh, if within budget
1TB seems like a lot, but it really isn't now
relatively cheap nowadays and games are big af
I have a 2 TB hard drive in my laptop, I'll just chuck it into it
You sure it's SATA?
yup
aye, I'll look into it
i'm also biased towards samsung nvme drives but i'm sure WD is fine
I'm already overbudget by like 120$, but a few more bucks couldn't hurt
aye, but Matt suggested this one cause he uses it and it's really really fast
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Internal-Computer-MZ-V9E2T0B-AM/dp/B0CRC7H66Z/ literally like 50 bucks more and twice the capacity
CL30 is a higher latency RAM, but I'm not sure how much that actually changes things now
well, it is DDR5, I have to look into what's the lowest latency DDR5 can get and get the lowest one that falls in my budget
i feel like that's not as impactful for most ppl tbh,,, like you'll see it in benchmarks but that minor difference can't be too tangible in games and such i feel like
wow
could be wrong ofc
Also, I'm not sure 750 watts is actually enough for a 4070
i think 1000 is optimal
i agree
according to the wattage calculator in pc partpicker it should be enough, but I am going for the 850W PSU, it's just not on the pc partpicker website, but available where I'm getting my PC
I'm not sure how PCPartPicker calculates it's power requirements
it does
although i still say amd > nvidia
I don't remember if it takes load in to account
the gigabyte 850W fully modular one is just isn't on pcpartpicker
what happened to @sand trench ?
If you go with the AMD CPU, I would probably go with an AMD GPU for their RAM sharing and fabric stuff. I forget what they're actually calling it.
its kind time i don't see him/her/she/them
ah, then I gotta research what AMD GPU matches the 4070
ooo i forgot this was a thing too
7800XT I think?
It should be. My Ryzen9 4080 super specs out to 625w
still running an intel cpu cause it's an older build of mine, so i can't use those fancy features
that's not much of a buffer tho.. it'll work, just not the ideal
Oh OK, interesting. I thought I had seen something on JayzTwoCents
it does, but unless you are running mix-and-match workloads (ie, openCL kernel or equivalent) work divisions don't really happen
how do u guys fix the browser jumping around all over the place on the attackbox? thank u
Yeah. I went with an 850w PSU just in case, but a 750w should work assuming it's not actually bad
750 is perfect for the 4070 dont worry
any idea what gigabyte's rep is for psus nowadays?
no clue, i have been using corsair modular PSUs for the past 15 years
okay, so what do you guys think about the R7 7700X and the RX 7800XT combo?
well, google says it should work flawlessly
Right, but it's not just the 4070 is what I was leaning towards. You still have to power the CPU, Fans, Hard Drives, RAM, etc under load
but π€·ββοΈ
Yeah I know, 750 is literally perfect
ha. i got an old 1500w corsair a while back in a (fried) parts computer i got for $50
corsair replaced the psu at no cost and i was running with that thing for years
powering a 1060 3gb lmao
that fan didn't spin once
Get the ADATA XPG Core Reactor 750W
It's the best bang for buck you will find, A Tier PSU
i think that psu is somewhere deep in a box in the closet now...
I got the Core II (newer version) but thats because my 4080 Super has a newer connector
I believe juun, it's just something that people don't always take in to account or put the total draw too close to the maximum output of the PSU
You don't want too much overage either
The bigger problem is when everything goes from 0-100 at once. If one isn't benchmarking the entire power curve, the amp jump on a single-rail PSU can cause a power stutter. Multi-rail PSUs have other problems
my god, adata still exists
If you don't like the one I recommended, here's a PSU tierlist
If I do go with the RX 7800XT I can manage to fit the R7 7800X3D into my build
you can also run linux without wanting to kys
Nice, depends on which games you want to play tho
Corsair or Seasonic are two brands that are trustworthy
mostly, hell let loose uh...well milsim games
If youre into Esports, better CPU is a priority
If youre all about high resolution high details, GPU is a priority
Can you explain?
a bad piece of ram will stop you from turning on
a bad psu will fry your entire build
Because when you lower the graphics to the lowest 1080p, the game utilizes your CPU the most
and vice versa with the GPU
power supply issues are also a massive pain in the ass to diagnose
not dissimilar to ram issues
what if you want good quality for your esports?
then GPU is a priority
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Do you have a source for this? I'd like to read it.
hi shadow
huh. i didn't expect that much of a score difference betwen the 7800x3d and the 7700x
eh..depends on the game
Single core performance is important for games but to sacrifice a good GPU for a better CPU seems odd and goes against recommendations typically.
buying a pc for a single game is a huge waste of money. spec it out for budget, and then consider performance within your budget.
some titles are very cpu bound just like some titles are very gpu bound π€·ββοΈ
Some games are still CPU bound, but that's getting more and more rare
Right
mostly csgo at this point, really
I'm looking at squad 
otherwise gpu all the things
i wont sit here and try to convince you
try it out yourself
not matter what game youre playing, when you lower the graphics to very low 1080p, your CPU takes care of high frame rates
once you set everything to MAX 4K, your GPU will be taking care of that
In this valorant clip, TenZ is talking about what is best to buy to increase fps in Valorant, CPU or GPU. TenZ gives the answer about fps boost on valorant.
CPU or GPU to get high fps on Valorant? TenZ answer in this clip
Credit: https://twitch.tv/TenZ
TenZ is currently playing for SENTINELS on Valorant.
Valorant Updates : Valorant new skins...
32 gigs of ram should be enough for an AD lab right?
Unless you are an esports pro or streamer who uses the game to pay the bills...... That's a huge investment for one game that's going to be outdated in a couple of years
he's talking about one specific game that just so happens to be cpu bound
that's not a definitive "lowering your resolution means your cpu does the work instead!"
I was just curious and wanted to learn something, but if you're basing it off anecdotal evidence, that kind of tanks what you're saying...
he also didn't say anything about lowering res doing that, just that he upgraded his cpu
this works with all games because its the fact that you lower the settings to the lowest that makes it CPU bound
not the game itself
aye!
You have to try it instead of denying it without trying it
Nope, i tried it myself
Now I am going to have to ask you to provide non-anedotal evidence. You're making large claims.
that's IF you're even bottlenecked
π¦
IF you're bottlenecked, then removing that bottleneck will do that
That doesn't mean anything, it's annecdotal.
and that's in EITHER direction
Try it and see guys, there's no point in arguing when I'm the only one who actually tried it here
You're just disagreeing without trying it
You're not providing evidence of the claim.
you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what happened
Anecdotes aren't evidence
you removed a bottleneck, you didn't offload to the cpu
What games did you try it on?
"I went outside today and saw that the sky was blue, this means clouds are a government construct." that's the level of validity you're providing, since you aren't providing actual evidence.
CS2 and Valorant
(I already specified im talking about Esports here)
Same
You just love arguing you wont even try it
BLEGH
there's nothing to try if we aren't already bottlenecked π€·ββοΈ
you can't increase performance by lowering performance (this sounds weird as typed)
Both of which are very much CPU bound, unlike a lot of other games...you can't just say because it did it for those two it'll do it for every game
Why would I want to play a game on Roblox's quality level? /shrug
Esports
alright, the quality of this discussion is degraded to the point of not being useful to anyone
I was genuinely curious in what you had to say, and was excited to learn something new, until you refused to provide any actual evidence. Please don't ping me again until you come up with some non-anedotal evidence.
move on to ta new topic pliease
The weather was decent here today
ayyy gcia is a good one
I am going through account hell right now though, reapplying to all the accounts that I already had at my previous employer
Zeek got renamed, right, or was that another tool?
BHIS made it?
Hi
Oh, RITA is BHIS
Hey folks how are we doing, i am currently wrapping up the burp suite unit.
Hi π. How is the unit?
What I mean is how are you liking it.
crap.. burp isn't loading in Kali.. Java errors.. π¦
More coffee needed.β’οΈ
depends on how you use it to connect
:java:
damnit
why did it display then just give me an error and send the text
discord sucks
Because Java. π€£
How do yall deal with stripped screws
Is this a dirty joke?
Nop
lol
Repairing a laptop just trying to remove a stripped screw
I usually use my fingernail and put side pressure on while unscrewing. Works most of the time.
It's likely the threasd inside and not the screw itself.
yeah, but the screw is a circle right
Magnet
what's stripped, the threads or the head
head
your best bet is an appropraitely sized removal bit
its all the way tight
its a laptop so a lil scared taking a drill to it
but be aware that it's more likely than not you'll damage something else getting out that stripped screw
if you have a rubber band, put it between the screw and driver (and press)
it's why it's important to not overtighten
yeah, I know already
and to use the appropriate locktite and not the green bottle
tried it already
still spinning
the green and red locktite have no place anywhere close to your electronic cases
eh red bottle is fine
shh
Reverse drill bit..
if you have a heat gun and don't care about possibly melting the chassis, sure
i'd start with a left-handed screw extractor bit first
Those don't work all the time.. but yes. Appropriate step.
we had a bucket of red loctite at one point and i would literally just dip bolts in the bucket before using them sometimes
yeah ... I don't have all the equipment talked about herer
if the extractor doesn't work, then try to drill it out.... but again, be aware of the risks
Last resort, dremel a slot in the head and use a flathead screwdriver to extract.
a screw extractor set is pretty cheap
If it's a laptop screw then it's pretty small too..
thinking about that right now
surface
hello thm
Hello:)
yesyes
busy π
workin' on all sorts of things, keeping out trouble, etc π you know me
how's tricks? @normal fable
tricks?
Hello Ben
good good. Besides the broken wrist.. I keep breaking things.. lol
Cmon moo get to the British slang π€¦ββοΈ
I'm working on it.. moo...
oh eek. sorry to hear
Do you not like being called moo
I have a doc appt tomorrow to see if I need surgery or not.. hoping not.
moo is perfectly fine with me. π
Trying to pop this thm box.. man.. I need to knock the rust off. lol
What room is it?
Brick Heist
oo thats a fun one
.
oh perfect thanks!
Very informative unit thats for sure, i really like the automation it presents
Also I got my act scores back, exceptionally good scores for the scholarship im applying to
party time! π
it's almost honk mimim time
have a good honk Jabba. lol
Guys, Who try to exploit CVE-2023β45866
Did any of you find a problem with the success of exploitation?
Trying to use mitmproxy as a replacement for burp suite proxy.. can't get that to work.. π¦ 502 error... bah!
Is this for a THM room?
No
aha! I had to add --ssl-insecure to the cmd.. lol
So what are you targeting with this?
when the room says artefacts, are they refering to apps? or like logs that shows all the actions thats being taken on the computer
My own devices, of course
other activities are illegal, So I am not able to do that
in your example the later.
Artefacts are traces of activity. For example, if I log into a machine, there will be artefacts of the fact that I've logged in (assuming I haven't removed them to clear my traces)
ah i see
like clues almost
We can only help with THM provided practice targets.
pretty much. Artefacts/evidence, etc
thanks
In fact, I did not want to help with that. I heard that there are people who did not succeed in exploiting the vulnerability on unpatched devices, so I wanted to know the General effectiveness of this vulnerability.
I tried on two Android 7 and Android 4.4.2
And It worked for me
while doing these practice ssh's theres random pngs in the ls directory, is there any way to actually view these or are they just null files added to make it more realistic
welcome helldiver
We can't verify what your target is when it is not a THM room. π
a wild timtaylor appeared
Listening to Joep Beving, so less wild this time. π
The THM room is like a real hacking operation
What if I want to hack a device but there is no help here because it is not about THM room so I go try this on THM room, I will find help here because I am trying on the THM platform, understand how to hack and then go practice what I learned in reality π
sus
Anyone helping you, concerning a non-THM target, inherits potential legal risk in helping you, this is the issue with helping with unverified targets. That's why we have safe and legal practice targets on the THM platform. If something goes wrong, it is safe, and best practice.π
not much productivity, that much i can say
Not living up to your name huh
debating if i wanna keep applying for other roles, hit a bounty, or jump onto irc and handle some things i've been putting off for a week
nah that's exactly my name lmao
productivity to the abyss
straight to the void
nonexistent anymore
It is Wednesday, also known as Wotan day, so should be adventurous. π
I will repeat what I said π , I can learn on the THM room and find help here and after understanding the process I can apply what I have learned in reality.
If a person's goal is bad, nothing will work, Any little piece of information can be turned into something bad. This is similar to the way you want to use a knife: do you want to cut bread with it or do you want to kill someone with it?
In any case, we cannot prevent the sale of knives, Because we do not know what the buyer will use it for
Throwback was a legend of a Network.β’οΈ
Another way of looking at it is preventative measures to avoid undesirable outcomes. π
this is not the right discord for what youre asking dude, this is for help with anything related to THM hacking is a fine line and if you use it for anything other than THM, anything given to you as help to do that would be aiding you. risk for a stranger wouldnt be worth the reward
Maybe π
Wednesday from the Old English WΕdnesdΓ¦g day of Woden AKA Odin π
See if you can create a room for that CVE, and thousands will benefit from your research.
@umbral bay sometimes my linguistic side comes to light π
I think this requires a level that I miss. Information is not a problem, but I do not know how to create a room
Anyway, I will be happy to help other people
We have help pages to get you started, and an amazing community of creators π₯³
https://help.tryhackme.com/en/collections/3665115-room-creation
In Dutch it is Woensday, pretty close to the Old English.
Thanks man, I will read it
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They say Freysian, spoken in the north of The Netherlands is very close to Old English. I don't speak it myself, except for the word Jiskefet, which means trashcan. π
Indeed, English has its root in the Germanic languages families as Dutch, but you don't see much similarities nowadays, Old English looks closer to German than modern English
Actually Old English originated from a German tribal around Frisian North Sea coast, so it's not strange that Freysian is spoken there π The history of English language was one of my favourite subjects in uni
Exactly, there still is a province called Friesland where they speak it, probably in the north of Germany as well. So you must also be a Tolkien fan, given his linguistics background and infatuation with Old English. π
Some how Odin is compare to Mercury in Roman mythology that's why Wednesday in romance languages like Spanish (Miercoles) and Italian (Mercoledi) is actually the day of Mercury π
yes, I read the Lord Of The Ring as well as his linguistic work
Odin is very Faustian, nay, Faust is very Odinite. π
If you like mythology and symbolism, my favorite dictionary is The Penguin Dictionary of Symbols, by Chevalier and Gheerbrant.
Mercury is depicted as the revealer of divine secrets, much like Odin's dominion over runes and hidden wisdom, I think from there it comes the connection
and shadow is gonna go unawake by lying in bed listening to beep boops for the sleep sloops while meep moops
I have the Mytology dictionary of Pierre Grimal
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When I was a teenager I was really into mythology and I learn Greek, Roman, Nordic, Babylonian mythology, etc I went into a kind of a rabbit hole for a few years π
the white goddess, and Greek myths by Robert Graves are pretty good too
Food For Centaurs it's also good π
I have those in two volumes I think, not in hardcover though, so elligible for upgrade. π
I know that they were big and fancy about using notepad with emojis and using like a windows key to input them.. Is it a matter of a simple reg key to prevent "notepad" from displaying emojis in the middle of my app dump?
this just feels like someone is trying to t-bag
Adds character
Indeed
how it feels using ligating fonts
I still have those volumes in my mum's house, and I have it on my kindle too π I have to move to digital after I lived in 5 countries, shipping books cost a fortune and I have a lot of books so I left most of them in my mum's house, I'm talking about thousands π
@molten sky .. Ligating fonts, like ceaser? none of those fonts are here i think .. this is just straight up .. conslas
Yeah, next time I move using Pods (mover containers), one of them will just be books. π
not sure what ceasar you're referring to, but ligating means like turning --> into an actual arrow and such
making actual symbols
OH
In writing and typography, a ligature occurs where two or more graphemes or letters are joined to form a single glyph.
same thing here, really
That was the definition i was thinking of
Yeah, it turns π¦ into a frowny face or π into smiley etc
: ) : (
!= might become the =/= one char symbol for instance
cause people want to be special or something idk
+=1 for thumb up etc
BUT .. why is this in notepad
Its notepad, its not "clean my toiletpad" its not "make my sandwich pad"
I started buying books when I was 6 when I learn how to read, I'm 47 so that's a lot of books, plus the ones I got as gift π
you can read?
a bit π
Ah you're under 50, lucky you. π
And I look 30 π a blessing now a curse when I was a teenager, I looked 12 when I was 18 so it wasn't fun back then π
Haha.. thats the secret to looking young.. just cut all that gray hair off @ the scalp
WOOOT
Buzz cut
one down, 1 to go..
Congrats π
If you have an existing aws cert i think you can renew it for free via cloudquest
At least up to .. .. the sa series?
Okay, time to celebrate. one thing done
Hi, I'm a beginner student in the world of hacking, and I recently became interested in studying about DDOS attacks, so I hosted a website for my domain, and used some tools from GitHub, but it seems that they are just toys, and don't work at all, what do you recommend?
most of the hosting platforms would have some kind of DDOS protection
we don't do that here really
aye, any recommended books
read the oxford one
and another one which told the history in a story like form
just want the general knowledge
Hey there! Just so you're totally aware, DDoSing a service you run on a platform you don't own is usually against ToS and is illegal in many areas.
hell, even port scanning your own VPS is often against ToS
Worried about the book you're writing right now Rex
The White Goddess, Greek myths and Food For Centaurs all of them by Robert Graves. The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius if you like roman history. If you want you can send me a DM with what you like and I can recommend some more π
Sure

yeah i know! The website I hosted is made specifically for this, and I used Whireshark to see the data input, but nothing entered, in other words, the DDOS tool is fake
He means where are you hosting the website
The host website allows this
that sounds..questionably vague
and odd, to say the least
I can't say, but there is no danger in carrying out this type of attack, the strangest thing about it not working is that the site does not have protections itself
uhm ... I have another concern for you
Probably READ the source code for the program you are running
A lot of those programs also have malware in them
wouldn't be the first time a PoC or so-called security tool was just a trojan
awfully ironic too
yeah, I have seen a couple security tools have miners or stealers built into them
Usually they are copy paste clones of popular projects rebranded
It's the "gamkers-ddos" tool. I saw some videos talking about the tool, and it doesn't look like some type of malware. I'm running on a virtual machine.
pretty much why i wrote my own debloater, lol
every one out there was questionable feeling and so large and oddly written that they would be a PITA to audit myself
Is the machine segregated from your network
lmfao @buoyant tree this is the first section of that script
print ("\033[92m")
print "________________TRYING TO REACH THE SERVER_____________________"
time.sleep(5)
print "_________________ESTABLISHING CONNECTION_______________________"
time.sleep(5)
print "_________0100100 BYPASSING SECURITY LAYER 001010_______________"
time.sleep(5)
print "_________________CONNECTION ESTABLISHED________________________"
time.sleep(5)
print " DDOS ATTACK STARTED. NOTE: ONLY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES"
time.sleep(3)
Uhm... whats in the rest of the script
literally just a while true sending urandom bytes to the ip
Man I could write a better DDOS tool than that while not sleeping for a week
lol
there's also this gem
print "Note- This Tool An Illegal Tool & It's Only For Educational Purpose.. Use It At Your Own Risk,We aren't responsible for your actions"
just noticing it also seems to increment port number on each iteration (resetting at 65534)
I don't know where to find reliable sources of tools on the internet, or write my own, I am truly a curious person
π
yeah we can't really help with that here unfortunately
Well I would suggest to follow @whole yew 's recommendation and don't use those types of tools unless you learn what you are doing
For which you can #start-here and understand how everything works and it will also give you a overview on the law if you follow the pathways
regardless, there really isn't an ethical use of DDoS tools. "As a learning experience" isn't sufficient for us to allow DDoS discussion in this channel
Wasn't aware there was a ethical use of DDoS tools
From what I read even in a assessment DDoS isn't given as a requirement
and is usually deterred from
Very very rare, and only under specific employer-specified circumstances
testing owned infra is really it, but that's both rare and way beyond what anyone just learning would do
This is a curveball, how are we going to test without ''testing''?
math and theory
But we have to know real world applications
and prayer
Well .
Step 1: Hire a professional. π
ah sure 
yeah that's really the only one tho -- testing owned infra or in collaboration with your cdn/csp/etc, and often would need to be worked out with your isp itself as well since it can cause a degredation of service for those not even related to yourself or your target
Are you available for hiring right now?
it affects people not even related to what you're hitting
Is there any problem that leave all infra to us for test in real world
Knowing what you shouldn't be doing is as important as knowing what you are able to do.
scope? what's that
Roger that
This learning throughout the virtual security process is very curious, if it fell into the wrong hands it would really be dangerous, but my question was more about not wanting to harm anyone. I just wanted to know how I can study this more deeply beyond the basics
I don't know if I'm overstepping some process, but it was something that interested me π
sorry if that seemed stupid to you guys
there are no stupid questions
yeah thats why #start-here
it starts you from the basics
Also its the same as knowing how to set a fire
You can use it for heat and other stuff
Or you can use it to burn things down
that's a really good analogy, thanks. I'm going to be more careful with what I try to inform myself without knowing what I'm dealing with
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I also believe that π«‘
while you're here @umbral bay, can i have admin
this guy says it's okay to ask
π
i'm bouta get nuked
I also believe that knowledge is something unique to each person, each person will always have doubts
that's how everything started a gift used as a weapon π
Thats sure
knowledge is power
Sure ππ
I so want to buy a framework laptop, maybe my next laptop π I like the idea
i support it
I could probably use phone as a weapon, they hit hard if used properly
i can use my weapon as a weapon
can't beat that
Who says my phone wasn't a weapon to begin with
hi guys, anyone here works with azure cloud can share some related groups? Much thanks in advance 
My martial art teacher once told me, everything is a weapon if you know how to use it π
which martial art?
this is a real error page github just presented me
Eh I only get rate limited
lucky
Jujitsu
Nice
I had a taekwondo teacher who taught me something important
how to dance
Hey chat. I had an unforseen event coming up, and it brewed up this question in my head.
Even after two years of graduation, would it still be possible to land an IT or cyber job?
"signed an nda sorry"
but actually tho, yeah it's doable
just stay up to date on shit and stay practiced
don't get 5 years behind because you haven't touched a computer in 2
shit you actually are at 690
nice huh?
btw there's someone with your same username but lowercase who has nothin yet
btw x2 your linkedin button no worky
aight so i have a major problem
same
i cant stop doing fucking rooms theyre too addicting lmao
thats not a problem

bro I can't
use my LinkedIn URL in the webpage
On my profile page
for some odd reason
did you ever set a username
it's not your name
otherwise you can just go to your linkedin profile and copy whatever is after the /in/ part of the url to thm
There
https://linkedin.com/in/THISPART
I just placed my LinkedIn URL in my "Personal Website" entry
also no worky
Bloody hell
ayyy there we go
lmao oh well
tomorrrow is my fridays
my french fries fridays
im gonna have frency fries on friday tomorrow
for dinner
and then
I can do more XSS stuff
until then
goodnight!
night!
time to catch some π€
I stole the picture from the interwebs 
Birb holding phone
@normal fable https://youtube.com/shorts/rAjzSKKTN-w?si=k6ZnJEfNYe9pVfUi This yoy?
Credit: @krunchymuffin on TikTok
I'll watch in a little bit.
Typed out a question about a problem I was having and realized how to fix it when I typed it out
@boreal scarabMind if I dm, finalizing lockpicks
i do mind, actually
Mornings
m
trying to do this room but the site will not load says connection timed out but machine says its running properly
have you run your openvpn configuration yet? and btw you should post these questions in the room-help channel
boi
Today is the last day of a huge cyber conference in Dubai and I want to go but still ill. I don't know π scared I'll infect everyone
that's unfortunate. Do they also put it online afterwards?
I don't know. But this would have been my first conference so wanted to go in person
Just don't want give everyone the flu
yea. Well get better soon 
you should go in a hazmat suit
when people ask just say you've contracted ebola
they'll understand
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
I'll see how I feel after a shower. Just going to be daunting going by myself. Won't know what to do or anything ahaha
alcohol can fix that last problem
I can't turn up drunk to a conference in the UAE π€£
oh shit that's right uae
Ahahahahahaha
that piece of information slipped past
Ahahahaha
Just sitting here in the train and some random Arduino tried to connect to my phone with Bluetooth lmao
Should I buy The Hackers Playbook 3?
@sick lance
Ahahahah
Yeah, quite funny to see it pop up
Ahahaha I bet
Oh? It's released for free?
I thought that was piratedπ
I wouldn't take the chance to talk about or use pirated booksπ
Ahahaha yeah I get that. I don't really use it anymore
@brisk tree Please don't suggest pirating books
Sorry
@rapid merlin Please don't suggest pirating books
@deft cloak Please don't discuss pirating books.
Hi everyone! Is anyone attending Cybersec Europe 2024 in Brussels (29th/30th May)?
oh okay..
archive.org is considered as?
Yes.
pirated? π
Yes.
oh okay
Should I buy the book as beginner?
or there are other books which I have to look before the hacker playbook 3.. ? π€
and yes I mean actual physical book buy from Amazon
Id check Amazon or Ebay. They are where I usually get most of my stuff from
Any suggestion?
Or is there a fourth now
Still 2018
Me too..
I mean, it's the latest but still old
I looked for Preface of 1, 2 and 3 π
I mean, what sort of book do you want?
I'm just searching for pen testing books released last year
Red team, blue team, purple team, crypto.
To suggest a book, I'd need a more specific category π
beginner.. literally beginner.. which let me clear theory part about Ethical Hacking..
See what they have on the Kindle app if you have it
See if you can guy anything from there
See
I recently only saw that there is something called CIA triads and before I don't know about them also.. also learned recently about cyber kill chain from tryhackme Intro to Cyber Security learning path
This introduction to hacking covers everything you need to know to start your own journey to becoming an ethical hacker. With help from a lab setup that lets you hack along to each chapter, this book walks you through a variety of the most useful activities for any hacker. You'll begin by capturi...
2021, but no starch press books are good.
Have a look on humble bundle, they regularly pop up on that
If you want to learn the basics cisco have a free ethical hacking course you could start with. It's 70 hours
And goes over the basics
let me look for amazon of my country.. π
Doesn't need to be Amazon.
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Thanks @brisk tree I have account there.. I use it to learn C++.. I will look into it.. ^^
I've started it and it's pretty good. Get 30 labs to do too
Yo @molten sky mind if I DM?
give thanks have cooldown??
I will thanks MadScottishBurd after 5 minutes than xD
I didn't realise how many books there were for pen testing
@sick lance did you know it's going to be a legal requirement that employees in the EU can register time worked?
Will that apply to the UK though as well see nice it left the eu
nope
Lol
it was taken up in 2021, but just this year finalised iirc, (at least in denmark, it's from June that it's mandatory to have)
it doesn't affect if you're fixed rated, it's just to prevent overworking
which I think is cool
Thanks @brisk tree
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yeah, just looked and it's only Denmark that starts out with it apparently, but it was taken from an EU legislation
https://www.grantthornton.dk/en/insights/articles/news-2024/new-requirements-for-registration-of-working-hours-adopted-by-the-danish-parliament/
No problem
That's a good rule to have
I feel more countries should do that because the amount of people getting ill from overworking is not great. As they say too much of anything is bad for you
Hi Just wanted to ask if I want to add google authentication on a avatar in navbar like when not authenticated it should show normal avatar, but when authenticated with google it should display the profile picture of the user instead of normal avatar..
How can I do it ??
why are voice channels locked for me?
You need to be verified.
That's a thing?
uint32
YEZ
It'd be a nice feedback -> #feedback-and-ideas
For thm?
Is this for thm?
I think so
nah π₯²
OK tell me how I should learn ethical hacking from 0
Take a loot at #start-here
okay
Goodmorning everyone, quick question. What would you guys say youβd use more whilst working as an analyst in a SOC environment, bash or python?
Can't be done.
If you use Google sign in, it creates a an entirely new account
If you use Google sign in to create an account, younvsnt change the e-mail
Can't
Depends on the org I guess.
Oh i see
Ofcourse
guysssssssssssss
Yes?
hey all i have a question i was doing ctf rooms why is that people at the bottem get the score for same question low compare to upper one's is it becuase of attempting the machine after long time since it was launched
Blood points, first people to answer questions on challenge rooms get extra points.

This field is massive, what do you want to specialise in?
What is best depends on your interests
I low key wanna be jobless if these meetings don't end soon
I'm just living
Doesn't exist
The money is in the banana stand
If you do CS for money, you won't do it
Eventually, you will conclude that it isn't worth it
money money money
Ml is money printer for couple of years at least
I would rather be in meetings than what I am doing right now
Money π
cyber sec do be more important
This proves that you are bored
Lol
Chatting with us
I didn't say i am busy
It's soul crushing really
I do nod a lot though
One of those that should be an email
And that i shouldn't be CC'd on too
- So Fluff, what do you think about it?
+ Yeah uhh no. That would be great
Fluff can we switch?
Pretty much
I would rather be in meetings than write Javascript
I'll stop whining. Pls no js
not just pure js
google π
JS integrated with google apps script
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you're welcome 
in all seriousness, you can literally find the difference on google π€·ββοΈ
I don't feel like making a wall of text, but I wanna show you my shitty code fluff 
@desert iron has been warned.
I got hacked guyz ma bad
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You can get help from communities about a range of topics, however when it comes to certain questions that are easily found with Google, Off Secs website probably has the difference listed on their website (and their own Discord)
I am actually on track now in tryhackme.. whatever doubts I am trying to ask.. I found their dedicated rooms.. π
Cyber field is massive, red team, blue team, purple team.
Then they branch out.
Red team, pentester.
Blue team have DFIR, malware analysis, soc.
Then don't even get me started on the rest π
This is the best server imo.
Pick one that interests you, if you need a vector right now. You don't wanna be stuck analyzing malware if you don't like reverse engineering down the line
There is a lot to choose from. And you don't have to while you start out
You'll figure out what you like more while you get the basics out of the way
Questions are welcome here, but you need to show us that you've done a bit of research before, and if there is something specific you don't understand, then explain it to us so we can help you.
For example:
" I went on offsecs website to look at the difference between OSCP and OSEP. I saw that they mention X and Y, but I am not sure I understand Y. Does Y mean that, or am I misunderstanding? "
When someone tells you to google something, it may seem a bit harsh, but they are probably trying to get you used to researching, which is very important in this field π
On top of showing us that you made an effort before asking, it will also make it far easier for us to help. The more details, the better. Show us your thought process when trying to understand something technical.
Today my attack-box keeps crashing,
am i the only one?
No need to apologise π
guys I need kubeletctl for a box https://github.com/cyberark/kubeletctl but there seems to be no ARM support... any chance to get this running on a Mac/Kali-ARM64?
A client for kubelet. Contribute to cyberark/kubeletctl development by creating an account on GitHub.
https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/tools/install-kubectl-macos/ Maybe? Never tried, but found this with a quick google search.
Before you begin You must use a kubectl version that is within one minor version difference of your cluster. For example, a v1.30 client can communicate with v1.29, v1.30, and v1.31 control planes. Using the latest compatible version of kubectl helps avoid unforeseen issues.
Install kubectl on macOS The following methods exist for installing kub...
if i research a question and i find the answer in a tryhackme walkthrough would that be cheating? π
Would you learn something?
Or jaut copy paste and move on?
Or would you try and see how they got the answer?
Now that you know it.
good answer yeah i guess it depends on how i handle that information
i probably would get a bigger dopamine hit now that you mention it if i find the source where they got the answer from π
sometimes you just dont know the answer. If you use write ups in a smart way you 'll learn anyway
a little hint , just test yourself what you found
sometimes could not work
Are you giving it away?
Anyone have any great resources on secure and redundant security architecture for enterprise networks? I'm starting my new job next week, and I will be a part of projects to design scalable and secure networks for enterprise customers. I honestly dont know a lot about the topic, which my employer knows. But I really want to get a great head start and show that I am dedicated to learning.
I've tried searching the great google, but I feel like I might not be using the correct terms, as what i find is very generic.
Because you look like you're offering?
ban
lol
@mossy river wants one
:hammer: heisenberg_blue0#0 has been banned.
Out of all people out there he tried to scam cyber security students / professionals 
Next time please donβt interact with them
Not 100 percent sure if you attack or defend these but try hack me has two larger networks like that, Holo and Wreath
@mossy river
Thanks, I will try to look at these. Hope they can provide some insight π
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Please do not self promote here
Hi! Do any of you guys know if there's maybe some OWASP discord? I know they have a Slack channel but I wouldn't want to spam it, I have specific questions regarding Ruby on Rails, finding extra information on this has been a bit tedious, since I'm not as experienced yet.
ok sorry
I've not stumbled on one, but I guess this is as great a place as any to ask questions. Maybe someone has just the answer for you. Alternativly you could also post in #resources and hope someone finds it there π
HACKOWASP Is maybe what youre looking for
Kinda scary ngl
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Learn Cybersecurity - Name Your Price Training with John Hammond: https://nameyourpricetraining.com
Read The Hacker Mindset by...
I like this guy video.. π
yeah hes a great yter
Just joined the HACKOWASP server, but it seems very much dead π
yeah I like John Hammond and David Bombal videos. Very interesting and knowledgeable videos..
I wouldnt even be in the cyber sec field if it wasnt for John
yeah... I remember his first video which I seen of John...
Who is destroyer2009 Apex Legends
22 minutes video.. I saw it fully.. without blink I think
where is Muiri
anyways, guys, as I posted in #resources , I would really appreciate anyone helping out if they have any experience regarding security in Ruby on Rails apps, and more Ruby on Rails 7!
I finallyyyyy finished my 2 week long project 
wat was about? if you are allowed to say...
internal automation of data handling π
sweet
yeah, now I know some more fun API's
API in general helped a a lot into doing things faster and so...
Does the rank updates in parallel in thm site and in discord??
discord in around 24h gets auto update. if you re-verify on discord it gets automatic update
yeah, this is sql data I am getting in, creating some data from that data and then publishes it internally using api calls for some systems, all automated in python
aham. so sql is just database system. is web browser based or local app thingy ?
it's from a remote database
it's a local script, that does stuff on some websites
aham. nice done bell π
thankz, it was a hell
main thing that you gain new knowledge. beer after that taste much better π
yeah, but I had to do both SQL stuff and python stuff
and me no like SQL
Wazup
bro you remember me
same for SQL. when i do/try something it's around 50 WTF per hour π
Hm I think
and where is that enginner
What engineer?
I'm studying for the CompTIA A+, learning every single detail about each printer type is extremely fun 
do you remember ace
well, I understand it, I just don't like it
Acme support enginner?
you know him
Well he talks on here
@crude stump
@crude stump is this pinging means
Yes
why not to ping
oh i see
But back to your question
yes
What do you need from him?
Yes I remember you
btw are you 16
1 more
I mean depends on what you mean by that
i meant like a wifi laptop like that
Only tryhackme
what you try to do exactly ?
yea i will try it
Itβs a gamified hacking/learning platform
but i dont know anything about hacking(ethically)
can i start from absolute beggining
Yes on tryhackme for sure
ok
i will try it
btw i have sent you a friend request
aces
bro none is online or something
Plenty of people online..
lot's online. just bit quite. ppl work and so
yea i mean that makes sense
Conversations happen spontaneously so, nothing being talked about right now π
are you free now alex
As in off work, no. Free to talk, sure π
no i wanted to game so yea
Oh, well I dont know you like that, so I'm not interested π
Also this discord is more about cyber security and THM in particular, not so much gaming.. π
π
What are you π ing at?
True enough, the "other" chat takes up too much brain power sometimes
ok
yeah, that's true
Hi I have problem with MISP room from SOC level 1
I can not go to the "https://lab_web_url.p.thmlabs.com/" address
did you start target machine?
I just keep getting 504 eror
and using thm in browser or local vm with vpn
other rooms work ok or same result ?
no there is no pproblem with the other rooms
try restart target machine. or might there is other instruction in room
anyone ever run into the wordpress customization page (edit site) not loading the CSS? Every other page works
Wordpress breaking? Never seen that before
ask awayy
should i switch over to ubuntu as a daily driver, i dont game anymore on my laptop anyway and want to become more familiar with cli and just basic linux things
im scared i will be unable to do certain things tho or like mess it up haha
are you gonna use cli more often if youre gonna switch to ubuntu
I loaded my work laptop with a Kali machine for the same purpose
uhhhhhh
i reckon?
