general

[whole yew]

well, rh has outright owned centos for a long time

[molten sky]

i am happy with the outcome of them being dicks tho --- we got alma cause of it

[whole yew]

the change does actually make sense, and it makes rhel better in the long term.... at the expense of stable open source. the real problem with it was the lack of messaging and how it blind-sided rhel customers

[molten sky]

blind-sided rhel customers
#neverforget

[whole yew]

i know a number of TAMs who got extremely uncomfortable calls from customers when that change dropped

[molten sky]

ngl i don't remember the last time i've used rhel-proper

[torpid perch]

hy guys how's it going?

[devout salmon]

good how are you

[sage copper]

Hello Guys

[sage copper]

going great

[pallid lotus]

What's a red hat hacker?

[fickle ermine]

A techie who wears a red coloured hat 🤓

[near hawk]

Fedora to be exact

[patent hinge]

Insane reference

Red Hat Fedora

[rapid merlin]

You never used it 👀?

[worn summit]

Is anyone here pretty advanced in GNS3?

[rapid merlin]

☝️

[sick lance]

Just ask your question.

[worn summit]

that was the question, it has a question mark in the end of the sentence

[sick lance]

My point is, if you're having an issue or want to ask a question related, it's faster to just the question.

If you don't have a question then that's on me, it's just how the greater majority of questions are asked in here.

People ask to ask, instead of just asking.

[jovial cypress]

just send the dontasktoask link

[sick lance]

No thank you, I'd prefer to just tell them.

[worn summit]

This discord is alot of fun, alot of fun people on it

[novel geyser]

batman guys

[jaunty prairie]

that is my work pet peeve. "Do you have a second?" "Can i ask you a question?"...like %#%S you can ask me anything you want except those two damn questions lol

[brisk tree]

hey

[jaunty prairie]

gm

@brisk tree did you get your project yesterday?

[brisk tree]

were getting it today just had to sign an nda first

[jaunty prairie]

sick. you must be so excited

[brisk tree]

I am super excited

the more i do of pen testing the more i love it

[loud marlin]

ello Mad

[brisk tree]

hello

[jaunty prairie]

I fell in love a year ago with it when I did eJPT. being able to bend tech at your will is just so fun

[brisk tree]

im trying to get paypal credit to work so i can finance pnpt

😂

[loud marlin]

TCM cert or ?

[brisk tree]

yeah

i heard they upped their price by 100 dollars

[loud marlin]

nice, i also need to make some cert. just super busy on work

[brisk tree]

I have loads of free time but no money for certs ahahaha

[loud marlin]

249 is now... as on site says

[brisk tree]

what for the pnpt

[jaunty prairie]

here in Canada its $499

[loud marlin]

let's switch. ill take cert for you you do my work 🙂

[loud marlin]

hmm

[brisk tree]

id rather have a job and do work and make money. so boring and depressing without one

[loud marlin]

oh... mea culpa. was looking worng lol

[brisk tree]

ahahahahahaha

[loud marlin]

dear god... i need sleep =/

[brisk tree]

i woke up super late today and still tired

[loud marlin]

i was on vacation for 3 weeks. and on first day i spend 11h in lab... i think im going crazy lol

[brisk tree]

bloody hell

[loud marlin]

yea...

if i don't have few ppl on work that i love work with and my boss is fracking legend, ill be quit looong time a go

[brisk tree]

awww least you have a good boss

[jaunty prairie]

@brisk tree are you located in scottland?

[brisk tree]

im from scotland live in abu dhabi now

[rapid merlin]

[jaunty prairie]

oh wow. When you said bloody hell, I just heard a scottish person in my head, I love the accent. My family is from ireland. I would love to backpack EU one day and visit both

[brisk tree]

ahaha i do sound very scottish

[proven quartz]

Scotland isn't in the EU anymore but there shouldn't be much trouble visiting both

[brisk tree]

i heard the uk will have to pay to enter some eu countries

[sick lance]

Wat?

They're still in Europe.

[brisk tree]

think spain is gonna charge people

[sick lance]

Just not in the Union.

[rapid merlin]

i dont think we are

[brisk tree]

yeah bit were not part of the eu

brexit remember

[proven quartz]

Yeah geographically still in Europe but the UK isn't in the EU

[sick lance]

We are*

[brisk tree]

were not

people voted to leave the eu

remeber brexit

[rapid merlin]

geographically we are

but we arent apart of the union

[sick lance]

I don't think they mean the union, I think they meant Europe in general

[jaunty prairie]

from canada, brexit was very confusing lol

[loud marlin]

for sure.

[brisk tree]

we are in europe continentally just not in the European union

[sour dirge]

can any body decrypt a mysterious .enc file for me

[brisk tree]

all the other eu countires hated us after that

[sick lance]

No, 🙂

Where did you get it?

[sour dirge]

in whatsapp

basically

an unknown number messaged me

he had a strange pfp

[sick lance]

Then definitely not.

[sour dirge]

i download his pfp

and found the extension to be .enc

what can be it

[sick lance]

Block, Ignore and leave alone 🙂

Or just don't give it out in here

[sour dirge]

ok btw whats .enc type files

[loud marlin]

google

[sour dirge]

lawl

[jaunty prairie]

*sitting here wishing random people would send me on investigations lol

[sick lance]

Encoded file.

[loud marlin]

go in VM and do some forensic

[mossy river]

Morning

[sick lance]

Hello hello

[sour dirge]

ye btw i dk where to start from lel

[brisk tree]

hey

[tawny widget]

Morning

[mossy river]

How is everyone? 😄

[loud marlin]

wrf is with colors theese days... btw nice one 🙂

[rapid merlin]

morningg

[sick lance]

Then my suggestion is not to.

Do some intro stuff on THM.

[loud marlin]

i was gone for 3 weeks and all of ya change colors on discord =/

[jaunty prairie]

could end very badly if you don't know whats up

[sour dirge]

brah u guyz ar just promoting thm and not the aim behind the org

[jaunty prairie]

no, we just don't want the infection lol

[sour dirge]

im just trying to learn it +_ i can do it sif someone is goin to teach me

lel

.

[loud marlin]

and 3 letter agency is not fun when they come in you house 🙂

[rapid merlin]

i want the infection

being hacked sounds fun

[sour dirge]

lol

[sick lance]

Because all my other resources are advanced stuff.

[mossy river]

We promote ethical hacking here though.
We aren't going to teach you how to mess with Whatsapp scammers

[sour dirge]

ig u r promoting how to investigate it though

[mossy river]

Not really

[brisk tree]

just delete the message before anything bad happens

[mossy river]

All of our tools are locked to Virtual Machines 😄

[sour dirge]

and for what else reason are u promoting ethical hacking

[mossy river]

We are preparing you for the job market™️

[simple valve]

damn 💀

[brisk tree]

its what tryhackme is all about learning ethical hacking why wouldnt they promote it

[brisk tree]

ahaha yeah

[simple valve]

i thought it was a very big april fools

it was in fact not

[brisk tree]

why would it be an april fools

[sour dirge]

they arent even promoting something thats really

important in ehtical hacking

really speaking u just wasted almost the essense of ethical hacking if u dont include investigating

[simple valve]

iirc the price hike was scheduled to start april 1

i thought it was elaborate marketing to say they would never increase price but looks like it was actually legit

[loud marlin]

if you wish to do some investigatio you need to learn it by you self

in real world you deal with real problems. you are not kid that some heed hold you'r hand and show you...

[sour dirge]

ok btw i just asked here if anybody can teach me that fast

[brisk tree]

just do some research

its what we all have to do

[sour dirge]

listen asking for help isnt equal to that begging sense u put in ur msg

[jaunty prairie]

cyber is not something you learn fast. its life long learning

[loud marlin]

i suggest you to learn something alike: file forensic

[sour dirge]

ik btw it can a part of it can be learned fast

[loud marlin]

how to get strings from file's. read metadata and so

[brisk tree]

exactly it changes all the time and always something new

[sour dirge]

yes

[rapid merlin]

yes

[loud marlin]

btw @mossy river i get another one
=/

[mossy river]

@sour dirge If you keep asking about this WhatsApp scammer, you will be muted.

[sour dirge]

wait first i think u should reload ur discord and watch my msg and my point carefully

[jaunty prairie]

so jelly

[sour dirge]

im not here to mess with you

btw just said to teach me if anybody can

[mossy river]

Yes, exactly.

It's not what we do here.

[sour dirge]

u do nothing here

basically

[loud marlin]

yes. this is discord

[brisk tree]

people have lives and jobs they do have time to teach people

[sour dirge]

other than

threatning to mute

[mossy river]

We're not teaching you how to:
A- Commit a crime
B- Break discord terms of service

[loud marlin]

you have site to teach you. if you wish person for it you can pay, or learn for you self

[sour dirge]

point any part of my message that breaks any one of the following

and if u think investigating is crime

[rapid merlin]

jared sorry for being annoying but do yk when the tryhackeme bot might come back online so i can link my THM acc

i want cool colour

[torpid perch]

hey how's it going?

[loud marlin]

it is better to learn by you self. much more knowledge

[mossy river]

Ugh, let me check it. I brought it back online last night

[rapid merlin]

tysmm

[sour dirge]

i understand ur point dude i am just talking with him

he wants the topic to be continued ig

[loud marlin]

the thing is THM is company of much more in backend. and here on discord are some real FBI ppl. so taking risk can be bad, rly bad. that's why ppl sugest what to learn

[sour dirge]

ok btw what did i do wrong even

asking something for kinda educational purpose?

[sick lance]

It's more so you don't know what you're doing, and you can cause some damage to your own system without the correct precaus

Precautions

[loud marlin]

nothing wrong. just no one will do it for you. start learn and read and results will come

[sour dirge]

man i dont understand

[mossy river]

Try verifying please

[loud marlin]

ppl are not ok to take some rnd files and do forensic

[sour dirge]

i will be responsible for what i do to my system , if i ask for help and if u can help just teach me out and if u dont want to just end the topic . why are you just saying me all these

[mossy river]

I have asked for this conversation to stop.
Please stop or everyone involved will be muted.

[sour dirge]

ok brooooo stop this now its over

[torpid perch]

hey whats the difference between pentester cyber security and etical hacking and bug bounty hunter and did they all include hacking

[ornate atlas]

What was that

[sour dirge]

👀 point out the rule and then mute me

[ornate atlas]

@mossy river @mossy river @mossy river

[sharp citrus]

@sour dirge

<#651923438524432404>

Rule 9 - Follow Server Staff Direction

Our team are here to protect the interests of the community. Follow their direction at all times.

TryHackMe Rules · Apr 9, 2024, 10:51 AM

[ornate atlas]

@sharp citrus okk

[sour dirge]

where do i find the community interest

[jaunty prairie]

Pentester/bug bounty/ethical hacker - are all roles inside of cyber security

[ornate atlas]

@sharp citrus your a AI

[rapid merlin]

worked tysm

yay im blue

[ornate atlas]

I'm black

[mossy river]

I don't know why the bot keep crashing 😔

[sour dirge]

list

[rapid merlin]

😔

[sour dirge]

ok i can help u out , im pro

did it get rate limited?

by cord

[ornate atlas]

Hii

[rapid merlin]

helloooo

[jaunty river]

Anyone to help with calendly 15mins for thm review link

[sick lance]

What?

[ornate atlas]

@rapid merlin what's up

[torpid perch]

so why all these have different courses including cyber security

[ornate atlas]

Talk in private @rapid merlin

[rapid merlin]

currently? my ceiling

heueheu heeuhe

im such a funny comedian

[proven quartz]

A pentester or penetration tester is someone who is employed to perform ethical hacking on behalf of an organisation to discover security issues within an infrastructure the organisation controls. It is one aspect of cybersecurity, which is the practice of protecting computer and information systems in various ways using many tools and methods and people with various kinds of expertise.

A bug bounty is a kind of pentest run by an organisation to crowdsource ethical hackers to test their systems, usually meaning their publicly accessible systems, mostly web apps. A lot of bug bounties are run by big organisations but many of them use the services of a company like HackerOne or Bugcrowd or Synack, who provide a platform through which ethical hackers can engage in bug bounties and through which payment for services and access to bug bounty programs is carefully managed, giving both hackers and clients assurance in the practice

[jaunty river]

I think there is a 15mins meeting with thm staff to talk about the product(website) review on calendly

[proven quartz]

Because it's very complex and challenging and there are lots of people with different skillsets and levels of ability

[rapid merlin]

like cryptographers

who possess

abnormal levels of patience and intelligence

[pulsar tinsel]

is there a suggestions channel?

[near hawk]

#feedback-and-ideas

[loud marlin]

if you start talk of cryptography and so the chickenman wiill popup soon

[rapid merlin]

see even that sentence made my brain commit seppuku

[loud marlin]

one sec

[rapid merlin]

and thats plaintext

[loud marlin]

thie @polar spoke popup when any cryptoigraphy come in talk 🙂

[ornate atlas]

What are talking guys, please complete the sentence

And proper manner pls

We talk about cryptography

Right 👍🏻▶️

[mossy river]

For the website or the discord server?

[rapid merlin]

I doth expresseth profound remorse, yea.

[pulsar tinsel]

website dont worry all good now! Thank you tho

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #6 - 1214)

[torpid perch]

thanks for explanation

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @proven quartz (current: #21 - 366)

[loud marlin]

btw @boreal scarab bed lvl on k1c is horror

[dense cairn]

try hack me ssh password not working for me, please help anyone

[oak river]

Good day everyone

[rapid merlin]

#site-support, or #room-help when it is a specific room where the problem occurs

[dawn void]

same here... \

[rapid merlin]

What does not work then?

SSH password for the attackbox?

Or for a specific VM in a specific room?

[dawn void]

ssh Administrator@ip

[rapid merlin]

and where does it occur?

What room?

[dawn void]

Post-Exploitation Basics

T3 Enumeration w/ Bloodhound

[steel aspen]

I really don't like the new Kali

[high dune]

Heyy

[steel aspen]

Can't find the keyboard layout setting to change minimise all windows

[rapid merlin]

Should move to #room-help then

[steel aspen]

Ctrl alt d is annoying I want super + d

[rapid merlin]

Super = Windows button right?

[steel aspen]

Yes

That's what I'm use to. Old Kali had it that way lol but I think I changed it

[rapid merlin]

Wait does that even put through in VirtualBox?

The windows button

[steel aspen]

Can use it on virtual msch9

Machine

It's known as super tho not windows key

[rapid merlin]

You may change the setting for that maybe?

[rapid merlin]

Yeah true

[high dune]

Hello i wanna to start learning ethical hacking is there anyone who can help me

[rapid merlin]

#start-here

[sick lance]

#start-here is a good read

[gritty fern]

#start-here

lmao

[rapid merlin]

😂

[steel aspen]

#start-here

Do you think he might have to go to the star here channel?

Start

Hey Scrubz have you installed new Kali yet? 🤣

[narrow pewter]

I think everyone agrees 😉

[late matrix]

my vpn seems to be working but I can neither ping nor reach the target ip in OWASP Juice Shop room
how can i fix that

[rapid merlin]

u sure ur vpn is working?

[late matrix]

it seems so

i didnt understand

[rapid merlin]

can you reach 10.10.10.10?

[late matrix]

nope

[rapid merlin]

then ur vpn is not working

[late matrix]

but it seems to be working on the site how can I fix it

[rapid merlin]

Oh

Yeah i forgot the command to check if ur vpn is working

but whe should head to #site-support

[brisk tree]

It's raining

[hardy forum]

I can't post pictures why?

[rapid merlin]

you need to verify with ur THM account

[steel aspen]

Use /verify

[hardy forum]

Thank you

[steel aspen]

Ur token is on profile

[late matrix]

i asked but nobody answered something

[rapid merlin]

oh

[steel aspen]

How tf do I change this stupid keyboard layout

[rapid merlin]

can you ping 10.10.10.10 for me?

[late matrix]

sure i can

[mossy river]

most users here are volunteering their time to help 🙂

Please keep it to the designated channel :)

[sick lance]

Not yet 😄

Got it paused

[late matrix]

okay

[steel aspen]

Do you know if I can change the predefined keyboard layout keys?

I want minimise all windows to be super + d instead of ctrl + alt + d lol

[wooden totem]

I think you can, but I forgot how

[fickle grove]

which room is required or module for the Windows Priv Esc (Mastering Windows Provilege Eas alation ) badge ????

or has it been retired ? also on that note is there a badge for 180 day streak or has that now also gone ?

[oak river]

Just gonna a ask a qq if not a problem sudo nmap --script=ftp-anon -Pn -vv <IP> address is the way to test if we can connect anonymouosly to an FTP server right?

[sick lance]

#room-help please

[steel aspen]

Can't find anything on Google

[worn thorn]

Did they rework kali?

[steel aspen]

Just the normal small ones

[steel aspen]

The settings are different to the ones I had from my previous versions

Could easily change the minimise window

[jaunty prairie]

its in the desktop manager settings IIRC

*window manager

[rapid merlin]

i dont know tbh

[worn thorn]

maybe under hotkeys or keymapping.

That reminds me. I need to bind the pipe to scroll lock.

[oak river]

Apologies

[worn thorn]

My smart brain decided that the american layout is the same as a german...

[steel aspen]

Do you realise how much of a legend you are? I owe you a beer.

[worn thorn]

at least the keycaps still fit from my older G910.

[steel aspen]

Thank you! Better give the rep lol

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @jaunty prairie (current: #1022 - 3)

[jaunty prairie]

anytime

[steel aspen]

Why didn't Google just say go to windows manager 🤣

[worn thorn]

that's Google for ya

either you're dying or get send to the ancient forums

[steel aspen]

Yeah hahaha

I was on one from 2014

That is no use.

I'm positive Kali and all Linux would've changed drastically since then

[jaunty prairie]

hate when your looking for something and someone else asked the same question 8 years ago, but never got an answer

[oak river]

Bing or Yandex ftw

Btw Yandex AI is insane

[steel aspen]

Oh yeah 🤣 swear the Internet choose a random person to troll

[oak river]

Also Bing is probably a better AI for reverse image search too

[steel aspen]

DuckDuckGo

[hardy forum]

please what is difference between jpg and png. While is the first input which is the cat jpg and the dog png. Thank you

[hazy pivot]

Hi, just quick questions:
Are THM's certificates well recognized in the professionnal world? What about THM's level?

[oak river]

I think they will attract attention

Personally, when I have talked with managers and etc

They told me skill matters

[rapid merlin]

Just another format for pictures

[hazy pivot]

Thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @oak river (current: #1022 - 3)

[jaunty prairie]

level can be faked with walkthroughs. the cert shows you know your stuff

[oak river]

They look more towards Corporate certs like CCNA or OSCP, CompTIA, but they will ask you questions and get interested when they see THM and HTB

[fickle grove]

yes, its a mystery, I wonder if retired!

[hazy pivot]

thanks! I didn't know level could be faked, it takes so much time to level up

[oak river]

Feel free to ask anything else

I'll help if I can

[jaunty prairie]

yeah, its just more using walkthroughs. you still need to put in the work, but someone else telling you what that work is lol

[hazy pivot]

that's pretty cool! But these certs are pretty expensive; I'll try to get my company to pay for them lol

[oak river]

I go to cybersec forums and I am part in something like a social club that was created by several Cybersec Businesses so I have direct contact with people in the industry

[oak river]

yeah, if you can

Try comptia though

And also you can try the THM ones first

[hazy pivot]

ohh that's cool, is it some kind of irc server or something

[oak river]

After the certs here, youll have an easy time doing the other corporate certs

I believe the understanding that THM will give you to do reconnaisance on machines and exploit them will vastly improve your technical expertise

[jaunty prairie]

I had luck getting my company to buy the INE ones. it was benifical to other people with the other content they provide.

[oak river]

Also like I said managers of cybersec companies have reccomended THM and HTB, so you are on the right path

[hazy pivot]

yup. You still need to learn how to properly setup an attack vm though. I don't know if THM has lessons on stealth

[oak river]

Of course

Though

I mean

A kali + Oracle Virtuialbox is good enough?

I mean it has a lot of tools

But a Linux Sysadmin course would be sufficient

[rapid merlin]

True, some pentesters i know have (a part of) their knowledge from here

[oak river]

And THM has that

[jaunty prairie]

stealth only comes with 0 days. anything else is usually pretty loud

[oak river]

Just do Linux Admin or Linux Fundamental rooms and you should be good

[hazy pivot]

It is. I think I'll be an extra computer to make a real Kali Lunux though. It's way more practical

[oak river]

If you know how to install and purge tools, you should be good to go

Move, remove, create files

[rapid merlin]

You dont have to

But its fine

[oak river]

I have 2 spare laptops

• a spare raspberi 3bs

[hazy pivot]

yeah i know what i hate the input lag from VM lol

[oak river]

I should have gotten my raspi with me at least

[hardy forum]

The CCNA is pure networking

[rapid merlin]

Fair

[oak river]

Yeah, but its crucial

They told me to get CCNA and to call them for a Junior/Intern Cybersec job

[jaunty prairie]

IMO using bare metal comes in handy when doing wifi things, or anything that requires other peripheral devices

[oak river]

Understanding how PCs communicate is critical

In terms of cybersec in my opinion

[hardy forum]

Exactly 💯

[oak river]

And CCNA gives you absolutely enough knowledge

[hardy forum]

I am studying for the CCNA at my spare time

[oak river]

Same

I almost reached to the half but burned out and stopped for a while

Good thing I use OneNote

[hardy forum]

Getting the knowledge is very important

[oak river]

Indeed

[jaunty prairie]

but thats more network+ stuff no?....CCNA being proprietary to cisco, just networking knowledge in general would be more crucial

[oak river]

I have reached etherchannel

[oak river]

It teaches you more than enough general networking knowledge

They also list proprietary and universal commands in a lot of cases for configuring network equipment

[worn thorn]

Parrot behaves really strange. Clicking on my left monitor actually clicks on my right monitor. Also it somehow confuses the orientation. Secondary on the right of main works.

[jaunty prairie]

my company uses Juniper. I am pretty ignorant to CCNA. not going to lie

[oak river]

Also mention both proprietary and IEEE standard universal protocols

[hardy forum]

I think recruiters anytime they see CCNA in your resume....boom they take you

[oak river]

Exactly

Though I plan to check Network+ too

[hardy forum]

Mine VLANs

[oak river]

I somehow like CompTia certs

[hardy forum]

Net+ is more of theories

[oak river]

Yeah, thats why I may binge watch it

[hardy forum]

But the CCNA is more of practicals

[oak river]

Yeah, thats what they like about it

[jaunty prairie]

I prefer universal certs like Comptia myself. once you are in a position where vender specific certs are needed, the company usually pays for them. Where I am anyway...with the exception of CCNA.

[hardy forum]

And once you understand the commands of the CCNA, you can have a knowledge of other vendors

[oak river]

I mean if you have a job and feel good, you study whatever you feel like. In my case, because I need recognition and a certain job, I go after what they tell me to go after

Personally I also love CompTia certs

[hardy forum]

Did they tell you to go over the CCNA?

[oak river]

Yes

Specifically

Then do SOC Level 1 on THM cert

And Comptia Sec+

[hardy forum]

Wow solid

[oak river]

The managers of some of the companies are Big Brass

They have so many certs

And of course great understanding I guess

But the price for courses of some of them is insane

So that's why I like to study myself

You also get to understand yourself better this way

Your habits and learning capacity

Paid courses push you as if you are in barracks

[hardy forum]

Mine is I don't have the money for the CCNA, I just want to get the knowledge so that I can get Job, then before I can write the exam

[oak river]

Yeah, you can get the knowledge and apply for the exam when you are ready financially and mentally

I'm trying to grind the THM paths right now, because I want to start wrecking machines

THM is fun

And the knowledge is useful and practical

[hardy forum]

Exactly 💯

[oak river]

Vulnhub is another place that catches my attention

But I will do some machines there after THM

[hardy forum]

Networking is a beast 😂😂

Expecially the CCNA 😂

[visual terrace]

🔒

[rapid merlin]

🔓

hacked

easy

[oak river]

You an Acme IT support fr irl?

[rapid merlin]

IT support yes, Acme IT support no

[oak river]

Ah oke

[rapid merlin]

But parttime

because schoolll

[oak river]

That's commendable

[rapid merlin]

and involving inside the company to Soc and network admin

wish i was it support :(

i wash cars part time

[oak river]

Car wash?

i was construction worker once part time

[rapid merlin]

woah

[oak river]

And worked on circular saws cutting wood

Yeah at 16

It was my first job

[rapid merlin]

i'm 17 :(

car washing is my first job

[rapid merlin]

more interesting than putting water on cars

[oak river]

You should be careful with your personal info btw

Online I mean

[rapid merlin]

my opsec is super secure

super duper

100%

[sick lance]

You know they're 17 and wash cars, that really narrows them down...

[oak river]

It was a hardcore job, I liked working out and that is why I liked it, but trust me construction working is not for everyone

[sick lance]

I assume they live in the West coast of Scotland based on that information.

[rapid merlin]

pls dont doxx me mr hackerman

[oak river]

I moved sharp glass, sometimes cleaned disgusting stuff

Cleaned slabs

[rapid merlin]

OHNO

[oak river]

Yeah, but if their presence is constant they might share things now and then

[rapid merlin]

Even if that was right

what then

[oak river]

Over time the picture gets bigger

Little by little the fly becomes and elephant

as they say

[sick lance]

I mean, somebody has openly tried to find me, with all the information in this server, and still failed.

[oak river]

Yeah, but you may be cautious of what and where you have always shared

[rapid merlin]

i've had that happen before

[sick lance]

I'm really not, lol.

[rapid merlin]

worst thing that happened to me was getting my router ddosed

just had to reset it since it was dynamic

[oak river]

Well if someone tries to find me, first they should know that I study National Security

[rapid merlin]

problem solved

[oak river]

Im surrounded by cops, forensics candidates, SWAT candidates

[rapid merlin]

woah

[oak river]

Yeah, but I wont work for the government

Even though they prepare us for such jobs

There is a public governmental academy for that and people who dont get accepted come to universities like mine that are private

But also prepare people for the jobs

[rapid merlin]

i want to work for the government rly badly

it's my end goal

don't really care abt the pay

So now we know you live in Bulgaria and study National security at a private uni

[oak river]

Your neck and family are on the table for your country

[rapid merlin]

just wanna exploit cool 0 days on different nations

[oak river]

One of my proffesors was commenting how once back in his junior years as a Police Inspector a criminal threatened to use a medical connection to forcefully abort his wife

And he had the means to do so

Succesfully

The topic was that I asked him how he wasnt worried about his family's safety when dealing with high level criminals

He said that you just stop caring at one point

Which is insane if you think about it

Or maybe he did not want to comment what he had to pull off to ensure his family's safety

[rapid merlin]

woah that's rly scary

[oak river]

Yeah it is

That's why I said, working for the government/country is serious in the first place

You commit public service at the price of your health

And family relationship

Most of the time during a policeman's career the family misses the presence of the person

Its just that busy

And stresful

Police here have major mental and family issues

I guess elsewhere too

[rapid merlin]

Nah

Here its a pretty normal job (most of the time)

[oak river]

They literally throw private parties where they go berserk sometimes

They are "Rehabilitation" parties

Or "Let the steam off" parties

[rapid merlin]

But yes, every policeman gets to face some situations they dont like

[oak river]

Most of the time

For example if a suspect shoves the evidence somewhere where you wouldn't want to check

And most of the time the case is like this

Working for the government in such type of a job is mental mayhem

[rapid merlin]

Are ya watching champions league this evening/ what time it is for you?

[oak river]

People automatically hate you

Some I mean

You write tickets, enforce order, sometimes you follow your superiors orders which are questionable

[rapid merlin]

True

[oak river]

But we need those people honestly as bad as it is

Free for all or self-justice wouldn't do any good to human society

We all think about it sometimes, but on a grand scale you have no idea what that means

So yeah, some people's hands have to be dirty for the hands of the masses to stay clean

That's about it

So I respect every worker

Whether its just a cleaner, a mailman or whatever

And trying to work in those fields is even more humbling

Being humble is great

For what starts in anger ends in shame

I love how we turned THM-General philosophical

[rapid merlin]

this general chat

is everything

[oak river]

But yeah, I had Police Psychology as a subject this semester

[rapid merlin]

do you think college is better than highschool

[oak river]

Well mine is actually a college but it gives university degrees

I mean its name says college

Kind of

[oak river]

In the eastern block the system is different - We still use that system that is why I said that

1-8th grade Primary Education

[rapid merlin]

oo that's cool

[oak river]

8-12 - Vocational School or Middle School

[oak river]

after 12 you go to university

[rapid merlin]

poor americans

[oak river]

I dont know what High school is

Or College is

[rapid merlin]

I know why more eyes hurt

[oak river]

People have explained me a lot of times, but I cant seem to remember

[rapid merlin]

because of the solar eclipse!

[rapid merlin]

it's like 1-6th here i think

educational systems are rly complicated

i go to college this year rly hoping it's better than hs

hs was hell

What is even the difference

Between college and uni

Im not familiar with that school system

[oak river]

So what is HS and College

[oak river]

College is maybe for preparing you for more, advanced engineering jobs or something like that

While universities prepare you, to be a proffesor, expert or something like that I guess

[rapid merlin]

But if you go to uni, must you have been at college?

[oak river]

I think no

Here no

You finish Middle/Vocational school and are good to go

[rapid merlin]

or can you go from HS to Uni?

[oak river]

I dont know what HS is

[rapid merlin]

high school

[oak river]

Here Is Primary -> Middle/Vocational -> University

[steel aspen]

Accidentally used -o instead of -oN in nmap. Said something about using a deprecated something that's dangerous 😱

[oak river]

Yes, I dont know what HS is

I know its High School;

I dont know what period it covers

[rapid merlin]

its the same as middle i think

[steel aspen]

After middle but before Uni

[oak river]

We dont have that

[steel aspen]

Sometimes HS covers middle though

[rapid merlin]

but what do you learn there then?

[steel aspen]

It's usually primary then high school then uni

[oak river]

Primary(1 -> 8th grade), Vocational/Middle(8 -> 12th grade) -> Uni

We dont have anything else after 12 grade

[steel aspen]

High school is like secondary school

[oak river]

We have Colleges/High schools/Universities, but they all give proffesional unviersity degree diplomas

There is Classical and Proffesional University degree diplomas as far as I know

[steel aspen]

Primary for basics secondary for life stuff then tertiary for ur degrees

[rapid merlin]

We have 8 grades lol. What age are you in 12th grade?

[oak river]

Proffesional diplomas verify that you are absolutely ready to jump to a certain working field

While Classical diplomas verify incredibly high level of knowledge and some practice

[oak river]

17/18

[steel aspen]

High school is usually from ages 11-18 but middle school covers 11+12

Primary is 5-10 usually

[oak river]

We start first grade at 7 years old

[steel aspen]

Here is year 1 and we start that at 5 sometimes 4

3-4 is kindergarten usually

[rapid merlin]

We always start at 4

[steel aspen]

Vocational is basically same as high school

[rapid merlin]

12 - to high school - you can choose to do high school 4/5/6 years long, with four years you can go to college, with 5/6 years you can go to uni

[oak river]

Whoa

This means that I would have finished school completely 1-12th grade when I was 16

[steel aspen]

Grade 1 for translation sake

[oak river]

Or maybe even 15

Damn

[steel aspen]

We have 13 grades

[oak river]

Oooh

We 12

[steel aspen]

11-13 is senior

[oak river]

We used to have 13

[sick lance]

Scotland is Nursery > Primary 1-7, Year 1.-4, (5 and 6 is optional) > College/Uni > Uni

[steel aspen]

9-10 get ready for 11-13

[hardy forum]

@rapid merlin how do you become an IT support Engineer....?

[steel aspen]

7-8 basically middle

[oak river]

We are in kindergarten until 6 or 7 years old

[steel aspen]

1-6 primary

[hardy forum]

By having the CompTIA A+

[oak river]

Apply for a job through job search platforms

[rapid merlin]

Yeah just apply for a job

[oak river]

I used to have colleagues in IT support that are doctors or cooks

[steel aspen]

Sorry I didn't realised I sent each message separately

[oak river]

So I mean

[hardy forum]

Okay you have the CompTIA A+ and you started applying for jobs

[rapid merlin]

As a Scot, do you hate the English?

[sick lance]

Not really.

[rapid merlin]

Yeah or some degrades in your country

[oak river]

I heard that Scots or the Irish would have their hands in their pockets when English Royalty were near them

[rapid merlin]

Do some Scots? Or mostly the Irish?

[oak river]

As a sign of rebellion to the Aristocracy

[steel aspen]

No, Scottish hate Irish 😂

[hardy forum]

What do you mean by some degrade in your country?

[sick lance]

No we don't?

[chilly veldt]

degree*

[rapid merlin]

Uhhh some degree from your country's school system

[oak river]

I literally told you that anyone can be an IT support

[rapid merlin]

yeaa

[oak river]

All you do is solve tickets and talk with angry customers

[steel aspen]

More like a friendly rivalry lol

[hardy forum]

Yeah

[oak river]

Read manuals because they dont want to read them

[steel aspen]

Similar to nz and aus

Canada and USA

[sick lance]

Some Scottish hate English.

Some English hate Scottish.

Scottish get on with the Irish.

the Northern Irish despise the English.

And Wales, nobody cares enough about 'em.

[oak river]

And when you tell your manager that you have 30 customers waiting for you he tells you to "Handle them anyways"

[steel aspen]

Wales are just there doing whatever

[steel aspen]

I was gonna change whatever to something else but not appropriate for this chat lol

Iykyk

My country gets the same slack about it

[crude stump]

🇺🇸 🤝 🇬🇧

[rapid merlin]

In fact, New York was from us, Dutchies

But some dumbasses sold it

[oak river]

Ahh

Netherlands was nice

I have been there

So clean streets and interesting architecture

[rapid merlin]

Did you go to Kinderdijk?

[oak river]

No

Only Enschede

Twente

[rapid merlin]

Ahhh Enschede

[oak river]

I would describe the Dutch as the nicest Germans

[rapid merlin]

[oak river]

Who also happen to speak English

[rapid merlin]

We do

We do

[oak river]

In Germany they pretend they dont speak English in my opinion

[rapid merlin]

Just like in France

[oak river]

Also in the Netherlands everything seems so bright

Like people seem more optimistic

And nice

[rapid merlin]

Nah they seem depressed, until saying hi to each other

Just like the Germans

[oak river]

Yeah, I noticed people are talkative too

[timid prism]

bad place

[oak river]

But people do everything on a schedule there

[timid prism]

too bad for introver

[oak river]

Its like they have cronjobs in their brain and even eat and drink water by a certain time

[steel aspen]

Nmap takes 50 years

[oak river]

This is insane

[steel aspen]

Even with -T4

[rapid merlin]

Yeah but im always late

[oak river]

You probably have a reason for it or just dont have to be on time

[near hawk]

That's why you use rustscan

[steel aspen]

Yeah I need to download rust again

[rapid merlin]

Nah people are always angry for me being late

[timid prism]

obviously

if u give someone a time and u arrive late

[steel aspen]

You can use rust alongside nmap ay

[oak river]

Well I was similar at one period of my life too

[rapid merlin]

Funny thing is, we dont even do that most of the time

Just "be there in time"

But people want that to be much too early

[timid prism]

or "just be there" at this point

[oak river]

I usually try to arrive 10-15 minutes earlier now

[timid prism]

see i give people a time, pretty sure they arent gonna come till 15 min. so i leave late and they still manage to be late

[oak river]

When you start a good job or want to meet someone important I just can't afford to be late

It's embarrasing for myself

I feel embarrased at least

[timid prism]

u can always blame traffic if u know the roads properly

[rapid merlin]

Yeah true but when there is something important, im always on time

[rapid merlin]

agreed

[oak river]

When you work for some time yes

But never my first weeks at work or my first day

[timid prism]

"hi im new to city and i came by xyz road" and didnt realise there would be traffic

[oak river]

I usually plan beforehand by researching everything

[timid prism]

unless u have a early morning job

[oak river]

Traffic, routes, costs

Or a late night one

[timid prism]

hah i hv my class start at 7. everyone reach at 6 50. i try to reach aroud 640 to get a seat i want

[rapid merlin]

But are you peeps watching champions league in a few hours?

[timid prism]

morning roads empty as anything

[oak river]

I remember during covid quarantine

You could not go to parks or work(For some jobs)

But you can walk on the streets

You could sleep on the main road

It was that empty

It was really nice to take a pint of beer and walk with your buddies at night before bed

[rapid merlin]

In our country it was illegal to be on the street between like 11 pm and 4 am

[oak river]

We just hid in the bushes

Near parks that is

[rapid merlin]

It feels such a long time ago already

[oak river]

We didnt stay there but the police would still check you or reprimand you for being near them

Yeah

My first years of depression in my life

[timid prism]

our police would consider u a drunk addict and take u for questioning

[oak river]

I never though I would have experienced depression until I was 20

or 19

I though this was a non-existent thing

I would slap my younger self

[timid prism]

i dont even know what feelings are

[oak river]

Well, other unfortunate events unfolded for me during Covid too, so yeah, I guess the emphasis got even stronger

[timid prism]

all i know is happy sad scared

[oak river]

Life is a bliss until 19-20, that is what I will say

[timid prism]

everything else is just man made nonsense

[oak river]

I am 23

If you are under 20

ENJOY LIFE

[timid prism]

nah study hard 🗿

[oak river]

That's also part of the process

[timid prism]

enjoying comes later

[rapid merlin]

Hello

I just became 16 lol

[chilly veldt]

[timid prism]

idk how old i am

maybe 15 16 or 17

[oak river]

Check your ID

[rapid merlin]

professional opsec

[rapid merlin]

Ask your mom

[rapid merlin]

Yeah discord is banning 15yo's in some countries

[oak river]

How are they gonna do that?

[rapid merlin]

if you claim you're 15

[timid prism]

i think im 17 this year

oh nah im 80

[rapid merlin]

someone can report it

[rapid merlin]

Yep

[timid prism]

i claim to be 80 yo whatya gonna do

[rapid merlin]

ur default gateway is 192.168.1.1

[oak river]

Yeah and I'm actually a 30 year old undercover agent

[timid prism]

so where does it take me

[rapid merlin]

ur loopback ip is 127.0.0.1

[oak river]

[rapid merlin]

What if you don't exist 🤔

[timid prism]

i might be a dream

[rapid merlin]

Nice try fed

[oak river]

Look in front of your house

[rapid merlin]

Jokes on you

Im not at home

oh no

[timid prism]

u a cochroach?

[oak river]

Jokes on you, Reaches your shoulder behind you

Sir.

[rapid merlin]

WOA

[oak river]

Let's talk about your extended warranty.

[timid prism]

how do i extend my warrenty

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yazarkeolog-gif-19419563

[timid prism]

what warrenty do i have

[rapid merlin]

I dont have to have warranty sir

[oak river]

Trust me you need it and we offer a discount for it

[rapid merlin]

im a conscientious objector

[timid prism]

fixing broken idiots 🗿

[timid prism]

yea im broken from inside how much time to fix me

[rapid merlin]

Something's can't be fixed

I believe its impossible to learn any os without using it for 30 days I guess ill be using linux for 30 days before starting pentesting junior

[timid prism]

im not u!

[rapid merlin]

You never can be

[rapid merlin]

What paths did you do already?

[oak river]

Over here, if you have your car insured and it is a car that is often stolen, it gets returned the next day

[rapid merlin]

There are some nice rooms about linux

[oak river]

The insurers have done recon on all thiefs

[rapid merlin]

I did pre sec and intro sec

[oak river]

[rapid merlin]

nice nice

[timid prism]

if i steal my car

do i have 2 cars

[oak river]

No, you would be arrested for insurance fraud

[rapid merlin]

But you can get used to it while doing the jr pentester path btw

[timid prism]

meh id run to other country

some keep u safe

[sick lance]

@steel aspen Wrong DE loaded on the new Kali 😂

[steel aspen]

Dam how'd you get that one

[rapid merlin]

yeah but I wanna learn more in depth but thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @icy epoch (current: #228 - 23)

[steel aspen]

Is that gnome?

Or plasma?

[sick lance]

Nah, it's something else, I wanted gnome.

[steel aspen]

That's the one I like that you have 🙃😠

[sick lance]

I think it's XFCE?

[steel aspen]

What is the one you have

[oak river]

Then you dont get money

[steel aspen]

I chose xfce and it didn't give me the dash thing down below

[oak river]

That's certainly not MATE or XFCE

[steel aspen]

How do you get the dash down below

[sick lance]

My terminal lied to me.

[steel aspen]

I've only got a panel and I chose xfce

The top panel bar

[oak river]

XFCE is minimal, MATE is next standard and after that are usually the more functional ones

[oak river]

Eh well, happens

[steel aspen]

What's the one Scrubz have?

That's the one I really like n want

I chose xfce can I add that dock down below

Doesn't look like plasma either

I think the installers are bugged 🤣

[drifting mural]

pentest is cool and all, but do python devs are still relevant?

[steel aspen]

I'm screen recording me doing a challenge room on THM

[drifting mural]

nice

[drifting mural]

is it a new update of kali?

[sick lance]

Nah that's the older one.

[steel aspen]

Oh is that why I don't have the dock lol

[sick lance]

The one I posted earlier was the new one.

[drifting mural]

also my apps are on top

[steel aspen]

I added stuff to the panel and they're small asf icons in the middle

Oh that was with supposed xfce ay

[sick lance]

You can make it bigger

[steel aspen]

Would you know how to add the apps down the bottom Scrubz?

[sick lance]

I already know 🙂

But thank you.

[drifting mural]

icons on the bottom d be nice

[steel aspen]

That's what I'm saying but I don't know how

[drifting mural]

me too

[steel aspen]

How do you get the apps down below lol

Programs

So use to saying apps lol

[drifting mural]

I'm gonna google

[sick lance]

Default position.Right click Dash to Dock settings

[steel aspen]

Good luck I've tried that

[drifting mural]

but I'm using win11 most of the time

[drifting mural]

will it work on iso?

[rapid merlin]

Wait is that the new Kali or

[sick lance]

Wdym?

[drifting mural]

exactly my thoughts

[drifting mural]

ur kali looks different

[steel aspen]

Where do I right click? Nothing coming up for dash to dock

[drifting mural]

like default kali

[sick lance]

Yeah.

[rapid merlin]

But Scrubz is that the new Kali or?

[drifting mural]

older

[rapid merlin]

ahhh

[sick lance]

I have the new one installing.

[rapid merlin]

But it looks better lol

[sick lance]

Then I'll need to move all my stuff over.

[oak river]

Gnome

I think its gnome

Right Scrubz?

[sick lance]

Yeah

That's Gnome.

[mossy river]

Omg chatgpt made this, this is adorable 😭😭

[sick lance]

4?

[oak river]

Hey Jabba

[mossy river]

Hm?

Oh yes 4

[sick lance]

ChatGPT 4?

[mossy river]

3.5 doesnt have image generation

[sick lance]

Ah. is 3.5 basic?

[steel aspen]

Dammit can I change it to gnome from xfce or will I have to reinstall it lol

[drifting mural]

GNOME for KALI NO VIRUS LINK

here

[sick lance]

Usually you can do it in the login screen

[steel aspen]

I'll try after I've finished recording this thing lol

[steel aspen]

Xfce kinda basic

[oak river]

But fast

I like it lightweight

And more robust

[steel aspen]

Not wrong

[mossy river]

3.5 is only chat.

4 is premium because it has access to the internet, image creation, code execution etc.

[steel aspen]

Anyone tried plasma?

[oak river]

• you get used to using more simple interfaces and the CLI

[sick lance]

Hm, I see.

I rarely use it, if ever.

[sick lance]

I don't like plasma.

[drifting mural]

bing has free image generation chatgpt

[mossy river]

I use it a lot

[steel aspen]

Hopefully my windows desktop notifications for discord won't record VM screen recording 🤣🤣 (just joking)

[steel aspen]

Oh its like windows?

[rapid merlin]

Kwalindows

[drifting mural]

androgyne

[oak river]

Red Star OS seems like the best choice

Ah

Yeah

Solus linux is interesting

Has anyone ever used it

?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

[drifting mural]

Qubes OS is my favourite

[astral grove]

Hi Scribz, Could you kindly display the configuration of your primary Kali Linux system?

[sick lance]

That?

[astral grove]

mine is this & still running slow

[sick lance]

My Kali is rapid.

[rapid merlin]

My Parrot and Kali are pretty fast too

5gb ram and 4 processors

[astral grove]

Do you know what I'm doing wrong, guys?

It's not too slow, but still

[rapid merlin]

Isnt it a graphics problem?

[jaunty prairie]

@sick lance can you run a quick test for me. see if hydra works? I am trying to do the golden eye room, and was getting frustrated....but I don't think its my wordlists

[astral grove]

I have a pretty decent graphic card

[rapid merlin]

Yeah and idk what virtualization software u use, but maybe the graphic settings are not configured optimal?

[steel aspen]

It's not letting me install gobuster

[noble knoll]

It's a signal to use feroxbuster instead

[jaunty prairie]

I had issues with gobuster and rustscan

[astral grove]

my bad, wrong channel 😄

[sick lance]

VMware doesn't allow GPU passthrough

[oak river]

Its nice indeed

TAILS OS is also good

Its amnestic

That's the + and the - of it though

There is also whonix

But yeah Qubes is good

Sandboxing is a nice thing

[steel aspen]

Does apt have nothing anymore?

[oak river]

Huh?

[jaunty prairie]

did you apt update first?

[steel aspen]

Everything I've tried to install lolly

[rapid merlin]

Do you mean the new kali or?

[oak river]

I always do sudo apt-get install update/upgrade/dist-upgrade

[steel aspen]

All up to date

[oak river]

Btw if you installed kali specifically for VM

You cannot update

I tried that

[jaunty prairie]

if your running a ready made vm also a good idea to use localish repos

[chilly veldt]

My SQL calls take 1 minute to finish

[oak river]

If you run a preconfigured image ready for Oracle VM, you cannot update or upgrade

But you can install stuff

Or at least you will have to add repositories manually I think

[steel aspen]

It use to let me update and upgrade

[astral grove]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[oak river]

So until recently you could update and upgrade?

[steel aspen]

This 2024 version sucks

[whole yew]

use a smaller dataset or write better queries

[oak river]

And today you cant?

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/vmware-virtualbox-vs-gif-23531880

[steel aspen]

Yeah

[chilly veldt]

I am calling a view that someone else in my company made

[steel aspen]

Says everything is up to date anyway

[oak river]

Hmm

[whole yew]

gross. think about how much redirection is being used

[oak river]

What does it say in CLI

Can you screenshot or type

https://kalitut.com/how-to-update-kali-linux-and-fix-update/

cat /etc/apt/sources.list