general

[worn thorn]

We're many geese.

[simple kernel]

the thing is, i understand, but i mean, what is a protocol exactly? i know it's a set of rules

but How?

[gritty fern]

Gaggle of silly geese

[simple kernel]

that's what i can't understand

like softwares are codes that are excuted from top to bottom

[worn thorn]

research will tell you everything about it.

there is no easy shortcut

[crude stump]

Wait are you asking what is the difference between them?

[simple kernel]

nope

not the difference

[crude stump]

Oh

[worn thorn]

silly geese with big plans

[simple kernel]

what are they, really

their core

[pallid lotus]

Literally made up by humans 50 odd years ago

[simple kernel]

if i wanted to create my own transport protocol

[scenic bobcat]

I think you're confusing software with it; its not, TCP and UDP are protocols, as in they're a model designed by ARPANET if google isnt lieing to me rn?

[simple kernel]

how would i do that

[crude stump]

That’s where computer scientists come in

[pallid lotus]

You would decide what information needs to be transferred, what your requirements for robustness, speed, etc, are, and then write a specification

[crude stump]

Basically

[pallid lotus]

The specification (which in real world terms tends to be an RFC -- request for comment) can then be implemented

[crude stump]

Udp doesn’t care if your quality is absolutely dog

[scenic bobcat]

TCP: Did you get the joke?
UDP: I dont care if you got the joke, i thought it was great

[pallid lotus]

A protocol is literally just an agreement of how systems should communicate

[simple kernel]

but, i don't take care of that, it's kinda seemingly automatically being taken care of

magic

[scenic bobcat]

Maybe this might interest you? https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0793.txt

[crude stump]

What

[lavish shell]

Whenever you feel you got the answers you wanted, feel free to DM me and I'll show you a few things

[crude stump]

Who takes care of tcp and udp?

[lavish shell]

The computer gods 😂

[simple kernel]

well, let me explain you the mental model

hahahahaha

my mental model

[scenic bobcat]

I think you're overthinking it tbh 👀

[crude stump]

Maybe just a little bit

[winged summit]

Nah, I can see why they might be confused

[simple kernel]

i am not overthinking it, i really just imagine a pip

[scenic bobcat]

It's just an idea people designed years ago and has become 1 of the standards used today 😅

[simple kernel]

pipe

that the information slides through in from a computer to another

[crude stump]

Basically is. Data flows from one device to the other

[pallid lotus]

That was all sorted decades ago.
When networking started to become a thing the computer scientists sat down and decided how data would be transferred physically (a series of electrical pulses sent down a wire). Those pulses needed to be formatted in a way that both sides understood, so protocols were developed -- most notably TCP and UDP, but also ICMP and a whole variety of others.
These were coded into drivers which are installed on your computer to let it communicate with other computers.

Other protocols were then developed at higher layers in the model (e.g., SSH works over TCP, QUIC works over UDP, etc).

[crude stump]

But there in packets and then remade

Or put to gether

[pallid lotus]

That's how it started, and it still works that way 50 years later

[winged summit]

I gotcha man. There’s the design spec (protocol, etc) then there’s the implementation which is effectively software that carries it out

[simple kernel]

that's a good explanation

[crude stump]

That’s a good explanation

Oo

[pallid lotus]

[scenic bobcat]

That’s a good explanation

[pallid lotus]

Oh FML

[simple kernel]

hahahaha

[simple kernel]

you stole my mind

[crude stump]

Literally facts

[winged summit]

Muiri somehow was able to give an entire compsci history in one paragraph lol jk. Dude, that was awesome

[crude stump]

https://tenor.com/view/he-crusing-pixelated-dance-gif-15324363

Average udp experience

[winged summit]

That covered a lot though Muiri haha

[pallid lotus]

You realise HTTP/3 uses UDP right?

[simple kernel]

so we can say that TCP and UDP maybe is the organization of pulses in a way such that both sides can translate it?

[pallid lotus]

Exactly, yes!

[blazing granite]

It's not by chance that he wears the top hat 😉

[simple kernel]

okay great, that really answered my question, hahahaha

i haven't taken hardwares

so i am blind to that side

[pallid lotus]

Are you familiar with the OSI model?

[lavish shell]

Anytime I have a question, I'm waiting for Muiri to be online 😂

[simple kernel]

that's actually a question if you go to the room-help

i just asked it

i wanted to understand it

[pallid lotus]

https://tryhackme.com/room/introtonetworking
If not

Still had that in my clipboard lmfao

[simple kernel]

application, presentation, session, transports, network, data link, and physical

those 7 layers

[crude stump]

I’m talking about video quality

[simple kernel]

now transport layer, i understand it kinda

[pallid lotus]

Yep, exactly

[simple kernel]

what about other layers

where do i learn

more

to visualize it

exactly

[scenic bobcat]

I just use this- i stole it from somewhere on this discord lol

[bold dawn]

that's a good explanation

[vital perch]

hello

[bold dawn]

😉

[pallid lotus]

As traffic leaves an application it gets encapsulated down the layers (although we use the TCP/IP model in practice). Applications don't need to worry about the lower level layers because lower levels in the "stack" handle those for it.

[bold dawn]

how goes is Muiri?

[worn thorn]

stolen that too

[pallid lotus]

For example, a web browser doesn't need to worry about TCP -- the TCP/IP drivers installed on your computer deal with that part. All it needs to worry about is HTTP(S) -- plus some other lesser used protocols

[pallid lotus]

Eh, I really should be asleep
You?

[blazing granite]

mnemonic for OSI model All People Seem To Need Data Processing (Application, Presentation, Session Transport, Network, Data Link, Physical)

[bold dawn]

probably headed that way soon. Gonna watch an episode of Chicago PD with my wife first

[pallid lotus]

Enjoy!

[bold dawn]

Thanks!

[pallid lotus]

Wait. Aren't you in the states?

What kinda time do you call this!

[simple kernel]

love it!

[bold dawn]

don't make fun of how I go to sleep like an old man 😂

9:30-10pm and I'm out

but I also get up at 5am or earlier daily

[blazing granite]

I used to follow that show but it went bad a few seasons ago

[pallid lotus]

I wish I could do that. I screwed up my sleep patterns years ago

[bold dawn]

I physically can't sleep in

[pallid lotus]

It's currently almost 0300

[bold dawn]

damn lol

I wish I could stay up later

[pallid lotus]

And I will be up in a few hours

[bold dawn]

I wish I had more hours to be more productive

put more work towards my education

[blazing granite]

I wish I had more hours so I can sleep more 😂

[pallid lotus]

See, you say that, but I'm 22 and starting to feel tired. It's not good for you to run on a few hours of sleep each night. Not for years on end anyway.

[bold dawn]

oh you're younger than I thought

You work in the infosec field, right?

[pallid lotus]

Mhm. Pentest + red / purple team

[blazing granite]

you have wisdom beyond your age 🙂

[bold dawn]

I wish I had more so I could learn more + work out more

[bold dawn]

ah okay. I do Red, Purple, and Blue lol, I'm in charge of Web Sec for my employer

anywho, off I go for a bit

[pallid lotus]

Like, full on red / purple team ops, or covering the general spectrum of offensive and defensive security?

[gritty fern]

Little help? Playing KoTH and the king will just “lock” the king.txt file and idk what to do, what command are they running (“Permission denied. error)

[simple kernel]

love your competitiveness

[crude stump]

Don’t think we can help with koth or ctf a

[gritty fern]

Morally or literally?

[crude stump]

Literally

[gritty fern]

kk

[crude stump]

Well like

Considered cheating

[gritty fern]

alright

👍

[crude stump]

Try your best tho

[bold dawn]

Mostly just in general, with occasional full pentests on external entities

[surreal sandal]

hi how i can start with ethical hacking?

[bold dawn]

most are on ones we host

[crude stump]

#start-here

Can start here

[blazing granite]

#start-here

[crude stump]

How dare you

[surreal sandal]

thx, my friend minecraft account was stolen i just want help my friend

[crude stump]

I love Bon Jovi

Oo

[crude stump]

@shell nova

[surreal sandal]

The discord account was hacked but he only changed a few things to make fun of his face

[crude stump]

Report it to discord

They can help

[blazing granite]

all the knowledge is for educational purpose only, don't do anything that it will get you in trouble and you'll regret later. Always go the legal and ethical route

[crude stump]

💯

[surreal sandal]

Can you give me examples of times when ethical hackers act?

[pallid lotus]

Fair.
Did wonder what the point in having a purple team session would be if you were both the red and blue team lmfao

[bold dawn]

yeah lol. It really depends on the context of the engagement

[simple kernel]

btw guys

when i was very young

[crude stump]

Taking up bug bounty’s

[simple kernel]

i wanted to try hacking

hahahaha

[bold dawn]

We have too little business to separate them, but just enough to do them all

[simple kernel]

and i used a program to create servers

called

njrat7

[crude stump]

Helping solve problems before bad guys can exploit it first

[simple kernel]

what happened with that?

i was a kid so i didn't really search, i was just applying what i am learning

[blazing granite]

yesterday? you don't sound too old 😂

[simple kernel]

i am 21

i am talking about 10 years ago or something

:P

[blazing granite]

wow you're really old then 😛

[simple kernel]

i am old :P

hahahahaha

[crude stump]

Ethical hackers can also act by taking up blue team, and protecting systems or investigating intrusions etc

There’s so much ethical possibility’s

[pallid lotus]

Yeah, usually a purple team is an actual sit down session between representatives of adversary emulation, SOC and/or threat hunting, etc, to execute test cases and find blind spots in the org's controls

[blazing granite]

you were younger, but still young today 🙂

[simple kernel]

=_= yes well i was planning to throw my dream to be a hacker away

[boreal scarab]

https://spotify.link/VQD4U5LXyIb

[simple kernel]

but now i am learning these cyber security and stuff

all my old memories

is coming back

[pallid lotus]

Just as a red team op is a colloquialism for an adversary emulation exercise where you've got white hats spending a month or two simulating the activities of a known threat actor

Neither are very useful in a small org 😆

[simple kernel]

where hahahaha i hacked someone on facebook with a njrat server with social engineering where i made him download teamviewer and i took the server from my computer and ran it on their device

:D

[crude stump]

Uh

[simple kernel]

fun

old

days

i wasn't the bad guy btw

[crude stump]

No comment

[blazing granite]

fun old days?? at 21?? really?? 😛

[pallid lotus]

Uh oh

[simple kernel]

hahahaha why am i feeling like suspected

TwT

[crude stump]

.

[simple kernel]

i wasn't the bad guy

as i said

they were group of hackers

using exploits

to destroy facebook accounts

i social engineered one of the dumbest of them

and took their device

and threatened him

and they stopped

[blazing granite]

stop talking 😂

[crude stump]

[simple kernel]

WHAT

am i evil now

hahahahaha

[bold dawn]

yeah, we don't do red team engagements. When I said red team, I am meaning general offensive security as in pentests

[crude stump]

Is purple team half red and half blues

[pallid lotus]

Yep yep, makes more sense 😆

[simple kernel]

i want to get into that

[boreal scarab]

Red and blue does make purple. Good job. Ya learned colors!

[crude stump]

Wow 🤩

[pallid lotus]

Honestly the whole lot of terminology is a bit dumb.
Think of a purple team exercise as being active collaboration between the defensive folks (SOC analysts, cyber threat hunting, etc -- anyone who actively defends the org), and the offensive folks -- specifically the ones who focus on emulating threats

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/you-get-a-cookie-ricky-berwick-put-cat-pet-gif-20618162

[crude stump]

Thanks

[crude stump]

Interesting

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/learn-how-to-read-study-jon-taffer-gif-16744379

[simple kernel]

my girlfriend's favourite color is blue and mine is red, i am the attacker and she is the defender, seems accurate

[crude stump]

So it’s either your a red teamer or a blue teamer working with each other

[boreal scarab]

Gib rep

[pallid lotus]

They usually involve the blue folks identifying areas they want to test detections in, then the red folks provide activity to trigger those detections

[crude stump]

Thanks for this

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @boreal scarab (current: #31 - 237)

[boreal scarab]

Ez rep

[crude stump]

Interesting

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/i-bid-you-farewell-ok-goodbye-paige-sinclair-paget-brewster-bojack-horseman-gif-16578585

[pallid lotus]

Or less ideally, the red folks identifying areas in which the blue folks should test detections

[crude stump]

Wait so how did y’all choose between red team or blue team because. I feel like blue team is my thing but I also do red team rooms and I enjoy that too I just don’t know

[gritty fern]

I just like red teaming more

though i technically havent fully chosen which im 90% sure ill go with red

[pallid lotus]

Just ftr, you're aware it's about 70% reporting, right?

[gritty fern]

Not the part im looking forward to :(

but yeah

[crude stump]

Oh nah nvm

[pallid lotus]

I like breaking things, and I like building things. Writing detections for things is fun -- I enjoy the neatness of it and I'm familiar with the process because it helps the red side -- but it's not what grabs my attention.

[crude stump]

Yeah the reason I like blue team is it’s awesome defending against attacks

[pallid lotus]

Genuinely, think really carefully about it then.

Just remember, everything in business is about value, and "hacking" is no different. The reason you are employed is to provide value to the client (internal or external clients, it's all the same in practice).
The client doesn't care that you executed some super cool kill chain that compromised their system -- they just care about fixing the vulnerability, and for that it's the report that matters.

[crude stump]

Like a cyber superhero or sum 🤣

[pallid lotus]

Your "product" as a pentester or a red teamer isn't actually your skills, or your experience, or the work that you do on a system. It's the report. That's the product.

[crude stump]

Is a security analyst blue team?

[pallid lotus]

The report is the product, the product is what gives you value, and value is all that matters to a business.

[gritty fern]

Ill be able to and give a good one but i just wont enjoy it for sure

[pallid lotus]

Generally speaking, yes. Job titles in cyber are a mess, but security analyst tends to mean soc analyst in my experience.

[crude stump]

Ikr they are a mess because different company’s name them differently

And it’s so confusing because there descriptions are all different

[pallid lotus]

That's my point. If you don't enjoy reporting, think hard about whether you want to go that route. The report is the important bit -- it can be a pain in the backside, but if you actively dislike doing it then you're not going to enjoy your work as a whole.

[blazing granite]

I've never done that, but I believe that it's a fine line between don't sound super technical so people don't understand anything and don't sound super common either because you won't sound professional enough

[gritty fern]

hm ok

[crude stump]

Don’t be discouraged tho

I think there are reporting websites where you can practice

Maybe do one of those and see how you like it

[pallid lotus]

Oh God yeah. There's a very fine balance between including enough technical detail to replicate and remediate, and overloading the poor devs / sysadmins.

It gets even more complex when you factor in the fact that a single report needs to have multiple different levels of technical density for different audiences.

[gritty fern]

Ooo can you think of any?

[pallid lotus]

You need to hand over something that's informative to the techies, but also to their project manager, senior management, and potentially up to C-suite 😆

[pallid lotus]

Have you completed Wreath?

[gritty fern]

I havent

[pallid lotus]

The final part of it is report writing. If you want to practice, complete the network and write the report on that. I'm afraid the prizes for best report were claimed a long time ago, but happy to review it if you want 🙂

[gritty fern]

Alright!

[bold dawn]

i've seen the same title for vulnerability assessments lol. it really is a mess

[pallid lotus]

🤦‍♂️

[gritty fern]

A lot of companies have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about, i’ve seen LinkedIn offers for swift that required eight years of experience, even though at the time swift had only been out for five years

[crude stump]

The logistics company?

[gritty fern]

i think so

[crude stump]

Like the swift trucks

Yk

The trailers

[gritty fern]

no idont

[crude stump]

I

Hold on

[gritty fern]

No i mean the language lol

[crude stump]

Omg

Lmao

[gritty fern]

huh?

Oh that was a joke

[crude stump]

Lmao means laughing my ass off

[gritty fern]

ik

Intro channel is just people saying hi lol

[crude stump]

Yes

[bold dawn]

swift like the apple app language

[gritty fern]

yeah

[fervent grail]

Hello fellow cyber friends. 🙂

[gritty fern]

hey

[fervent grail]

I'm happy to be here. A bit of a noob but excited to learn.

[gritty fern]

Me too

I just got into networking and im working on web exploitation too

[fervent grail]

Haha awesome! I'm entering a KOTH just for fun to see if i can get anywhere.

nice!

[gritty fern]

So far ive loved koth

[fervent grail]

I'm hoping to eventually get some cert's in networking.

[gritty fern]

except when people lock the ming.txt

king*

Doesnt happen often but it does

[fervent grail]

Honestly I probably won't make it far, but good practice I suppose?

[gritty fern]

Ye

[blazing granite]

I must go now, good night to you all!!! 💤

[gritty fern]

Nighty night

[scenic bobcat]

Maybe start on normal machines a bit 😅

[gritty fern]

So far my favorite machine is space jam

A pretty cool concept

[fervent grail]

Perhaps you're right 🥲

[fervent grail]

I'll look at that one! Can you send a link to the room?

[gritty fern]

I dont know if you can just play it tbh

its a koth machine

[fervent grail]

ohhhh i see

[gritty fern]

If you want i could play it with you in a couple minutes here

cuz you need 2 people to start

[fervent grail]

Sure that would be fun!

there is only two of us anyways

[gritty fern]

Yeah

[tawny magnet]

[obsidian olive]

Hello community, I love using THM, it is so easy to learn and practice the learning paths, I used the platform extensively when I was studying for eJPT version 2

and plan in using it for my eWPT on a near future

[bold dawn]

spo spo spo-reo

(sing it in the melody of ophelia)

[tawny magnet]

ello derek, how ya doin

[molten sky]

'ello

( in bri'ish )

[molten sky]

woah.

wait.

hydra is a mod now.

[graceful thistle]

Hydra has been mod since forever

his new role is lead mentor

[buoyant tree]

wasn't he a admin

[molten sky]

^

https://tenor.com/view/dolphin-attack-wet-sassy-fuck-off-gif-6046213

[graceful thistle]

he was mod a the same time

[molten sky]

technicalities technicalities

was admin

is not admin

= change

change scary

[graceful thistle]

he hasnt been CM for a while but has been mod all that time and now still with his new role :p

[molten sky]

yeah idk wtf CM is can someone translate

oh nvm

i need a drink

[tawny magnet]

[molten sky]

CM =/= nimda

[silent tree]

Defensive security is protecting an organisation's network and computer systems by analyzing and securing any potential digital threats .----> investigating infected computers or devices to understand how it was hacked , tracking down cyber criminals, or monitoring infrastructure for malicious activity . (Blue Team)

what does monitoring infrastructure mean here ??
what infrastructure are we talking about ??

[tawny magnet]

Firewalls, Intrusion Detection systems, Intrusion prevention systems. that sort of thing.

https://www.ibm.com/topics/intrusion-detection-system#:~:text=the next step-,What is an IDS%3F,activity or security policy violations

[silent tree]

ohhh so basically blue team monitor the computer systems infrastructure ?? to protect it from hackers , they build firewalls and intrusion detection system ?

[molten sky]

I'm personally picky about the terms red and blue and don't quite agree.......but generically, yes

[silent tree]

got it

[molten sky]

you could swap generically with "less pedantically" as well probably lol

[silent tree]

the way the job roles are bifurcated into teams is gay

[molten sky]

it makes sense when used properly -- it's just nobody uses them properly

tweaking firewalls is defensive. but it's not blue teaming.

clicking "Critical!" in a soc is defensive. but it's not blue teaming.

[silent tree]

what you mean ?? so as far as i know red team is breaking into stufff , blue team is making sure nobody breaks into your stuff ??

[silent tree]

isnt defensive security = blue team ??

[silent tree]

soc ??

[molten sky]

The term red team (an allusion to red cell) goes back to cold war era and such. Red because the communists were red and communists were bad.
So, in war games and whatever tf else, the people emulating the bad guys would be the red cell or red team. The defensive party would then naturally be blue because that's opposite of red.
They are direct counter parts and one can't exist without the other

( 1 ) If you don't have a red team you don't have a blue team

( 2 ) You can have a red team and that doesn't mean everyone that's defensive is blue teaming

[molten sky]

Security Operations Center

[silent tree]

bruv can we take this to the DMs , i have lot of doubts , will you please clarify ??

[molten sky]

Just as an example.... in a proper, technically correct, environment with a red team, the threat hunters (who are actively countering the red team) would be blue team

yeah you can dm if you want

won't be here for long but a few mins

[silent tree]

thanks cuhh , check dms

[stark goblet]

wreath environment , specifically speaking, prod-serv is extremely slow... is that normal?

typing a command using the root shell is painfully slow... it even disconnects itself and I have to ssh again and start all over.

[steel aspen]

Is it possible to extract files from a vdi?

[gritty fern]

I think it sounds like your files are fucked

[steel aspen]

I'm gonna do it lol. I need them.

[gritty fern]

well good luck on your quest

[steel aspen]

What if I roll back my distro to the one I used with those files?

But sounds like it'd be compatibility issue when I'm positive it isn't

All the YouTube ones want me to download software and I don't trust that at all

[gritty fern]

I have a VM just for opening software i dont trust

[brisk tree]

morning

[steel aspen]

Morning

[normal fable]

I think that today I learned that I need to try harder to learn something new every day...
Life lessons.

[brisk tree]

i need to do the same

[elder peak]

Same

[sinful moon]

Yeah imho very important. I'm always learning and it's addictive. Even if it's just Wikipedia or reading in depth system architecture of retro consoles writeups, yep that's still giving me info

85% of my YouTube is just things I can learn something new from and informative while being entertaining, good vibes

[brisk tree]

I need to find a way for me that doesn't involve reading hundreds of pages

[normal fable]

I can still kina sing.. kinda.. lol

[west dew]

Pls someone should recommend a good free course for a beginner

[normal fable]

I need to talk to someone.. I need guidance..

[normal fable]

#start-here
Also check punned messages.

What are you trying to do specifically? What is your end goal?

[sinful moon]

lol well if retro console tech does happen to be an interest of yours, these are relatively short reads. He also have ebook copies which equate to about 50 pages at most:

https://www.copetti.org/writings/consoles/

[brisk tree]

Aww nice I'll take a look at that

[rapid merlin]

Hey, if response size in http request same. What does that mean?

[sinful moon]

Yeah, highly recommended. Despite me being all about retro gaming, the tech behind it, hacking them and more, I've learned tons from these

Great citations as well

[buoyant tree]

Heya @sinful moon

haven't seen you in a while

[sinful moon]

Heya, yeah just been busy. I'm on-call this week in particular

[buoyant tree]

nice

In a bit of a dilema right now

[sinful moon]

At times I'm slightly burnt out of my job and don't want to have anything to do with tech after work, but that's a me issue lol

[buoyant tree]

Hmm

[sinful moon]

More small business things and how we run things, it's no worries

But do tell

[buoyant tree]

What else you been doing

[tawny magnet]

Gn

[hearty plover]

Goood Morning 🙂

[sinful moon]

G'night spore

[buoyant tree]

Finished everything in arkham knight except riddler things and main story (90%)

[sinful moon]

Gaming and reading extensively

[buoyant tree]

I really wanna finish the game on 100%

but riddler is too boring to find everything

[buoyant tree]

What you been reading?

[sinful moon]

More of Ray Bradburry primarily, finally read The Martian Chronicles (amazing) by him and now I'm onto The Illustrated Man

Just great short story collections

[buoyant tree]

How short are the martain chronicles

Been reading "What if?" lately

[sinful moon]

The Martian Chroniciles in particular is a neat fix-up similar to "I, Robot", where he makes a effort to link the short stories together

yeah What If is great

[sinful moon]

It's a full novel but each short story is... short

[buoyant tree]

The jetpack gun was a thing that I actually was thinking about

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[sinful moon]

I will say though, if you've not gotten around to any of my scifi reading recommendations, I'd probably put "I, Robot" first, but I'm a sucker for Asimov's plots, but he's nowhere near as an expressive writer as Bradburry

[buoyant tree]

I haven't read it but was needing a fiction book

Been reading a "A short history of nearly everything"

Also is the movie good? (Presume its bad)

[sinful moon]

both classic scifi fix-ups for short story collecions turned into novels

Yeah it's quite bad and has little to do with the souce material

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[buoyant tree]

chapter long short?

sorry for the delay, internet went out

[sinful moon]

Like 5-10 pages short, these were originally published in scifi magazines

[buoyant tree]

oh k

[sinful moon]

and those are pages according to my ebook reader and settings

scifi short story collections are a good time, and fix-up novels even more so tying them all together

[buoyant tree]

Also reminds me to ask you, should I wait for a kobo colour or get the libra 2

[sinful moon]

Just get the Libra 2, I don't expect Kobo to come out with a color eink display for a bit. Just look at Kindle and other compeditors that aren't rando Android chinese devices

[buoyant tree]

yea

Although how good does the kobo support pdfs with illustrations

like on a tiny screen

my old kindle does a terrible job and treats it as a big image (the entire page)

[sinful moon]

It's not bad on 7" but you may have to do some zooming and scrolling depending on the kind of content. Ideally you'd just get the proper epub or such of them

What If? for example is fantastically formatted in ebook formats and is not an issue

Not something you'd need a PDF for

[buoyant tree]

yea but its brother is a terrible example

Thing explainer

[sinful moon]

Yes that'd I'd just read on my iPad tbh lol

I've always had a seperate device for comics and other things not quite suited for eink

[buoyant tree]

oh k

btw any chill movie recommendations

like the cornetto trilogy

[sinful moon]

I think you've seen Kinves Out and Glass Onion, those would be some good recommendations for vibes

let me check our library

[buoyant tree]

yea Knives out is done and glass onion also

I implore you to rewatch Glass Onion although, I don't understand how you even like it

[sinful moon]

Bad take on your part

I've seen it multiple times, it's not as good but it's nowhere near a bad movie

[buoyant tree]

Eh its a 4.5/10 for me

Just butchered the original

[sinful moon]

ouch, personally disagree

not quite the same vibes but watch Big Fish (2004), it's a fun movie

Old man tells tales that are blown out of proportion... or are they?

Good movies that spans the spectrums of genres. One of the least Tim Burtonish movies Tim Burton has ever done

[buoyant tree]

Watched it, although not that fun

[sinful moon]

bah

I'd say possibly too young but I enjoyed it tons when I was your age

If you want fun have you watched Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure yet?

[buoyant tree]

nop

[sinful moon]

very highly recommended, you'll have a good time

[buoyant tree]

ayee, keeanu reeves

[sinful moon]

mhmm one of his very first roles

[buoyant tree]

recently rewatched John Wick for the 3rd or 4th time

[sinful moon]

lol this will be in very strark contrast to that

[buoyant tree]

yea probably

may watch the matrix again also

[sinful moon]

I can also recommend nearly every movie Mel Brooks has ever made, even more on the comedy side, but they're inventive and neat
Classic movies, but they're fast paced to your linking
Airplane! is my fave but he has tons

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[tropic zenith]

Are nmap scans considered OSint?

[sinful moon]

No they're active scans, you can use Shodan.io and dnsdumpster.com for similar results for pure passive OSINT

[buoyant tree]

also worth it?

[sinful moon]

For OSINT, you don't want anything which actually ties you back to a machine you manage

[tropic zenith]

I see. So no communication with the target machine what-so-ever.

[sinful moon]

Wait for a sale but I had a good time with it, but I also have massive nostaliga for the original

[tropic zenith]

Thanks!

[buoyant tree]

also any opinions on psychonaughts

2

[sinful moon]

Yeah, and no problem! OSINT is by definition just using info that you can find on the internet or by other passive means

Has to be info already in the wild

[sinful moon]

Supposed to be quite good, all I know. I'd probably recommend playing the first game but I don't know about how much of the story is implicated in the second

I've played the first game and it's for sure good

[buoyant tree]

hmm

Making a 3 day vacation plan for eid

Thinking about things to do

[sharp light]

Hey everyone!

[sick lance]

Hello

[buoyant tree]

Heya Scrubz, you think maldevacademy is worth it?

[sharp light]

How you been?

[sick lance]

Not sure, not interacted with it much.

[sick lance]

OK, just awake you?

[brisk tree]

what things you thinking of

[buoyant tree]

gaming and movies and twin peaks

[sharp light]

Are you asking me if i just woke up?

[brisk tree]

he said hes just awake and wondering about how you are

[brisk tree]

aww sounds good what games

[buoyant tree]

Alan Wake 2 (after Control AWE DLC)

R&C Rift Apart Achievement finishing

[brisk tree]

i need to finish alan wake 2

ahaha

quite a heavy game isnt it

[buoyant tree]

haven't started

played 1, dlc

gonna replay dlc

then alan wake 2

[buoyant tree]

Skipped through most of it at the time sadly

[sharp light]

Ah! Now I understand. I'm learning English and practicing it here, so sometimes I might make a mistake or not understand something.

[brisk tree]

That's understandable

[brisk tree]

Aww ok. I've been playing too much apex recently ahaha

I need to finish bualders hate

[sharp light]

Who here plays koth?

[buoyant tree]

eh, couldn't get into it but fair

[buoyant tree]

baldurs gate 3*

[brisk tree]

yeah

[sick lance]

No, i did

[hearty pine]

Sup

Are there any steroids but for brain?

[sick lance]

Yeah, they're called books.

[hearty pine]

No. That answer would be equivalent to dumbbells if it were steroids for muscles question

Go crazier

[sharp light]

It's nighttime here, i'm going to sleep now

It's already 4:35 in the morning here

I was studying, I didn't even notice the time passing, I was supposed to go to bed early

[hearty pine]

Nighttime studying hits different

[sick lance]

Sounds good, I'm forma 5km run. 👋

[sharp light]

Yeah, true

[sharp light]

That's it! It's always good to take care of yourself

Have a good run, bro

[hearty pine]

Thing is, there’s anxiety going on trying not to wake up the loved one

[sharp light]

That's tricky, I always try to stay quiet and type calmly

The problem is when I stop studying and start walking around the house, and then my bones start cracking😅

[hearty pine]

The body is idle too much. Make sure to stretch regularly

Get a yoga mat and go at it

Feels good to stretch the whole body after sitting all day

[sharp light]

I did stretch regularly

[sharp light]

So good!

[rancid swallow]

my request was ignored please help me☹️

[hearty pine]

My friend was a security guard and had to stand on one spot for 12 hours. At the end of every shift, his shit would crack violently, like from neck to toes cracks.

[hearty pine]

Definitely looks like a form of rot. Feed it to AI prompt maybe

There’s more variations of rot, not only 13

[sharp light]

Damn! Didn't he exercise?

[merry grail]

Hello

[hearty pine]

He was a fitness instructor lol. Turns out it’s not very healthy to be idle that long

[rancid swallow]

I have tried everything

[hearty pine]

If you truly tried everything, there’s nothing we can do to help

Meaning there might be a blunder somewhere

[sharp light]

Wow! I didn't know it was that bad

[hearty pine]

The words could be guessed according to the theme of the room

[sharp light]

Well, I'm going to bed, it's very late.

[sharp light]

Can you add me as a friend? I want to have someone to practice my English with

[hearty pine]

Sure

[rancid swallow]

ok I'll look again

[sick lance]

Where did you get it?

[rancid swallow]

It was a friend who gave it to me

[brisk tree]

when you spend time adding details to a cv template for it to just ask for money ahaha

[brisk tree]

you profile pic looks like the apex legends logo

[hearty pine]

Never use those

[sick lance]

Then I think I already told you we can't help, as we don't know where they got it from.

[hearty pine]

Could be data farm

[hearty pine]

It actually is

[brisk tree]

nice

[rancid swallow]

Here https://france-cybersecurity-challenge.fr/

[sick lance]

Theb we definitely can't help, that's an active competition.

[rancid swallow]

yes I was inspired by it

[sharp citrus]

@rancid swallow

<#651923438524432404>

Rule 5 - No Cheating

Cheating of any form is not allowed. This is not limited to asking for help with assessed schoolwork or exams.

TryHackMe Rules · Apr 6, 2024, 8:11 AM

[brisk tree]

Nice

[hearty pine]

I play fuse btw

No hard feelings kid. What happens in the arena, stays in the arena

[rancid swallow]

I am not participating in a competition

[sick lance]

It doesn't matter, I'm going to assume your friend is, and they're stuck, and you thought you'd ask in here for help.

Please don't.

[rancid swallow]

but don't worry I'll find it on my own

[sick lance]

That's the spirit.

[brisk tree]

That's me just sent an email to my landlord to say I'm letting my flat go in the UK so my money doesn't run out 😂

[hearty pine]

Huh

[brisk tree]

Long story

[hearty pine]

I got smelly armpits

[hearty plover]

and i can let air smell like shit

[hearty pine]

Dream team

[brisk tree]

Ee ahaha

[hearty pine]

It’s taken care of

Psychological pressure is a thing

[brisk tree]

Lol

[sick lance]

I didn't think you were coming back, your flat empty?

[brisk tree]

i have someone who can clear it out for me

just emailed my ladlord. feel more relaxed now

will use the free time i have to keep learning so i can get in the industry somehow ahaha

[safe solstice]

aoa
Yaar Koi Multan Say Hai

[hearty pine]

whatchu wanna do?

[brisk tree]

What job wise or study wise

[hearty pine]

job

but its both I guess. Ur gonna study what you're gonna work

[delicate reef]

question out of cyber topic just curious, i dont have a monitor atm (im buying a new one soon just searching for a good one) and i wanna connect my pc to my laptop and control via obs, can i get usb-c to hdmi plug in the usb c to my laptop then the hdmi from my laptop to my pc and turn on my pc boot up obs on the laptop and control it from there?

[brisk tree]

Any aspect of cyber my goal is everntally pen testing or ai

[delicate reef]

just wondering if it works like that

[brisk tree]

use spacedesk

then you dont need a wire

it works wonders

connects straight away and acts like a second monintor

[delicate reef]

i know bout it just wanted to know if theres a way using a wire

[brisk tree]

you would need to connect it with hdmi and ethernet cable

so its on the same wired network

[delicate reef]

alrighty

[sick lance]

Hiya, English only on this server please. 🙂

[blazing hazel]

hi im 13 and my friend that's tech savvy told me to join this server what does one do here?

[sick lance]

Didn't your tech savvy friend tell you what the server was about, whilst telling you to join?

[blazing hazel]

no he's dumb

@open magnet

[jaunty prairie]

so if your friend told you to jump in a lake would you?

[blazing hazel]

? joining this server isn't gonna hurt is it? kindly use your brain

[sick lance]

Don't be rude other users please.

[jaunty prairie]

i just don't get why you would join a server randomly

[blazing hazel]

idk, the question was illogical and dumb but sure, why not?

[sick lance]

This server is an ethical hacking server, it's accoponie by the website http://www.tryhackme.com

[sick lance]

This server is a public discoverable server...

It's not private, anyone can seach on Discord for it and join.

[blazing hazel]

very good point

[blazing hazel]

alright so basically cyber safety lessons

[jaunty prairie]

more the opposite lol

[sick lance]

Not always, there is offensive rooms also.

Have a read over #start-here

[blazing hazel]

wait what?

WAIT WHAT? WE LEARN TO HACK HERE?

[sick lance]

Thm teaches how to hack ethically.

[blazing hazel]

wait like aimbot or hack into grandma's pc to remove the other hackers kinda hacks

[sick lance]

No, aimbot is against tos and not really hacking.

And the second point would also be illegal.

[blazing hazel]

or hack into rockstar and leak gta7 kinda hacks

[jaunty prairie]

you must know my grandma too

[sick lance]

More black hat.

[blazing hazel]

right, right right so what do we hack?

[blazing hazel]

sure

[jaunty prairie]

tryhackme.com

[blazing hazel]

explain what that meant

[jaunty prairie]

all the hackers are always in my grandmas computer cause she clicks all the links

[blazing hazel]

oh so this is duolingo for hackers basically

[steel aspen]

Did end up losing my files I think. I can't find them. Time to restart THM from scratch.

I hate this new Kali version so much

[jaunty prairie]

2024?

[steel aspen]

Yeah

[jaunty prairie]

I installed it, but keep going back. its really annoying me

[sick lance]

Why is it annoying?

[blazing hazel]

define and give an example of ethical hacking

[jaunty prairie]

i found installing a lot of things out of the gate just a PITA. google-chrome, rustscan, gobuster all gave dependency issues

i tried to compile dirty.c last night and the system kernel panicked even. was fine after, but yeah. ill wait till 2024-2 lol

my chome issue was like a Microsoft install. had to reboot my system for it to run...found that very odd

[naive violet]

If a bank wants to stop people from breaking into the bank to steal money, they might hire someone with excellent skills at breaking into banks
That person will test the security and tell them what they need to improve

[jaunty prairie]

having permission to attack your target.

@sick lance you seem to know a lot of around here. I was trying to find a room, but maybe I did it in another environment and thats why I can't find it here.

Was basically a room where you attacked a minecraft server. Think it was a log4j demo

[sick lance]

Log4shell by John Hammond?

[blazing hazel]

pl

[blazing hazel]

ok

[blazing hazel]

ok

[sick lance]

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/solar

?

[jaunty prairie]

ty

[outer rivet]

Hi the link in #cyber-and-careers is safe

?

[jaunty prairie]

try putting it in something like virustotal.

[sick lance]

No clue, deleted it for now.

[pallid lotus]

There's definitely at least one HTB box where you attack a Minecraft server (albeit unguided). Not sure about THM.

[devout palm]

Yeah

Log4j

[naive violet]

There was a really old THM one, but it wasn't exploiting the actual MC server

[devout palm]

You need a minecraft client tho

[sick lance]

I remember that one.

[jaunty prairie]

the John Hammond one was definitely the one I was looking for. I wanted to run a demo for my 14 year old, to show him. He wants to run a minecraft server, but doesn't want me to be part of it...I was like yeah...were not letting a bunch of random kids in to my network lol

[sick lance]

CyberCrafted was the name.

Signed up for a CTF, got sent an invite to their telegraph group... 😦

[jaunty prairie]

im old-school internet havn't even touched it. Is telegrah any good or just pure evil lol? all i see is evil c2 crap coming out of them lol

actually I think im confusing myself with telegram

[shut hawk]

what's telegraph?

[sick lance]

A crap newspaper.

I meant telegram.

[clear jackal]

It's the next, highly advanced, version of telegram

Damn I'm too slow lol

[shut hawk]

aha cool cool

[tropic stratus]

Is there much overlap between Sysadmins and Ethical hacking? Do sysadmins typically learn and research whitehat stuff to better identify any weaknesses or potential mistakes to avoid? And do ethical hackers sometimes set up their own network just to get a better perspective how a network works?

And is it possible for a sysadmin to pentest their own network as a whitehat?

[bitter quiver]

Well drive time before my flight to India

[hearty pine]

depends on the company policy and the standards they applied. According to the standards, the duties should be segregated and can't overlap much so a dedicated security team would be best

but companies that like torture employ devsec ops to do everything at once

[polar wraith]

In a class B network, if no subnetting is done and there is a single subnet with 65534 hosts, will it be easier for a hacker to perform a DoS on the network by continuously pinging the broadcast address?

[naive violet]

DoS via "ping" is a very 90s thing

[proven quartz]

A lot of what pentesters do invloves using the tools that sysadmins use to interact with systems. Sysadmins will frequently have knowledge of security features and functions and how to implement them. Good admins will frequently have processes to test that their security systems are functional and may read up on security issues but they won't usually conduct pentests, as this requires authorisation from management and sign-off from the legal team, due to the nature of what 'whitehat stuff' is.

A pentester will frequently be encouraged to set up test systems during their learning, and when pentesting potentially fragile systems where interruption to business operations could occur. That's why using a platform like Try Hack Me, or setting up your own systems with vmware/virtualbox or physically in your own network is beneficial. You could set up a Linux or Windows system with services running that you can footprint thoroughly to see that you actually understand how they work and what potential vulnerabilies you might find

[polar wraith]

how else would one do it

(just curious)

[naive violet]

We're not going to tell you how to perform DoS attacks here

Very much and practically exclusively unethical.

[polar wraith]

hmm ok, thanks!

[naive violet]

@hearty pine Please respect that we don't discuss that here as it's unethical.

[hearty pine]

Can we discuss bad system designs with no targeted intentions but just to promote best practices?

[naive violet]

You were, in that case, trying to guide them towards how to perform a DoS - not OK.

If you feel like you're trying to bend the rules, simply do not.

[hearty pine]

kinda sensitive in this case but noted!

[naive violet]

We have to be. Discord deletes servers that allow discussion of illegal hacking.

99% of the time in a penetration test, intentional DoS is out of scope. You validate that the issue is there and then simply stop.
They don't gain value from you killing their systems.

Especially if you're testing in prod

[hearty pine]

people will go back to IRC I guess if this goes on

i literally see no harm in discussing bad system designs

it's not like somebody will learn step by step how to do stuff

but the information is public

[naive violet]

This is the problem.

[sick lance]

The information is public, but it doesn't mean it's welcome in this server.

[cosmic pendant]

How is everyone?

[naive violet]

Pretty good, got some bits for projects to assemble

[winged crater]

guys what u think which image is better kali linux installer or NetInstaller ??

[naive violet]

You want a big download now, or when it's installing?

[winged crater]

m on wifi with plenty of time so it doesnt matter if its big

[naive violet]

All it changes is when that big download happens

[winged crater]

so Netinstaller will download everything during installation and installer will have everything already?

[naive violet]

Basically

[cosmic pendant]

You have meta-packages to increase the size if you want

[winged crater]

@naive violet still which one will u suggest ?

[cosmic pendant]

or if you're going to be in a facility that has no internet, freezing a server room.

[naive violet]

https://www.kali.org/docs/introduction/what-image-to-download/

[cosmic pendant]

https://www.kali.org/docs/general-use/metapackages/

[winged crater]

i already read that still just needs a opinion

[naive violet]

It is case by case, there is no "best"

Best is always best in a situation

[cosmic pendant]

Download the tools you need for the situation

kali-linux-everything: Every metapackage and tool listed here

[winged crater]

most preferrable by u if u gonna install which one will u chooese

[cosmic pendant]

Okay.. I"m out lol

[naive violet]

I simply do not care

[winged crater]

lol xD

[naive violet]

Toss a coin

Pick one

[winged crater]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @cosmic pendant (current: #37 - 196)

[naive violet]

I got most of the bits for my superheterodyne

[sick lance]

Ah, my channel list is back to the right size, I don't need a magnifying glass to read them.

[winged crater]

ah does hyper-v/secure boot(windows), core isolation(windows security defender) create issues in VMware or in kali linux booting ?

[near hawk]

I haven't had any issues with it

[naive violet]

It used to

[winged crater]

and now it doesnt ?

[naive violet]

They made a big deal about having fixed it

[sick lance]

Nah, like Blackout, I haven't had any issues or problems.

[winged crater]

cool

[winged crater]

idk why all the things happens to me only

[sick lance]

Could be a whole lot of things.

[winged crater]

idk yesterday i just expanded storage from 20gb to 60gb and then boom when i boot it up it goes to the window where the dragon fills up in blue and then just black screen and cursor blinking 🙂

[naive violet]

@winged crater Please don't send friend requests without getting permission first

[winged crater]

oh ok mb

[sick lance]

https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/enlarged-disk-too-much-now-VM-won-t-boot/td-p/1864297

[cosmic pendant]

Oh, that's fun. I think it's funny that superheterodyne, makes me think there is a hetrerodyne....

[naive violet]

Heterodyning is just mixing

[cosmic pendant]

whatrs the super part?

[naive violet]

I think that's the difference between the name of the concept and the name of the design?>

[wintry sluice]

what are you mixing?

[naive violet]

Radio waves, making a reciever

[gray sonnet]

Hey Doc 👋

[cosmic pendant]

Hello!

Local osciliator plus..... whatever that get's mixed with ahha

I like SDR :D, no Local osc

[gray sonnet]

how're you doing this fine day?

[cosmic pendant]

Alright, how are you doing?

[gray sonnet]

good too!

what've you been up to?

[cosmic pendant]

work, work , work, radio, work, and if i'm lucky, alittle code

[oak river]

Good day!

How's everyone?

[umbral bay]

Gouda morning. 👋

[oak river]

How are you doing good sir?

[civic marsh]

any professinal ctf player willing to help me with learning how ot solve a ctf ??

[oak river]

I am currently doing the easy THM paths

Once you do them

I believe that you might have the necessary skill for an easy CTF

[civic marsh]

ohh thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @oak river (current: #2050 - 1)

[sick lance]

Which CTF?

No, sorry. we're not helping in Active CTF's.

[gray sonnet]

oof pretty busy

[civic marsh]

nahhh i dont need help finding the flags since i only solve the basic ctf like swamp,tam,ritsec,dam

[naive violet]

But you just asked

[civic marsh]

it's fine , even if you help me to solve after the ctf ends

[sick lance]

There will be writeups posted, I'm sure.

Or Yuri will post one.

[civic marsh]

its not for acctive ones, i just want to gain the knowledge in proper roadmap

[sick lance]

Then build your skills through learning, that's a much better way to learn how to do CTF's.

[civic marsh]

i'm aware that there are plenty of writeups but personal doubts can only be solved by a professional i guess

[civic marsh]

okayy got it

[rapid merlin]

Hey, if response size in http request is same. Does that mean the request was successful or not?

[cosmic pendant]

isn't that what the response code is for? 200 vs 300 vs 400?

That is an interesting inference attack though..

[oak river]

Bruh, Huawei is asking me if I want to try an experimental "Social Credit" system

[crude stump]

hey toaster do you know how much soc analysts use zeek?

[cosmic pendant]

If they are smart, all the time

We use it, but not enough

[oak river]

[crude stump]

hm

[cosmic pendant]

In my old IR job, when we went into an unknown enviorment, we would place zeek sensors everywhere

Think about it this way.

if you don't know the enviorment, but you know your sensors..... YOu can learn alot, real quick

[crude stump]

and by sensors do you mean scripts?

hm i dont think the zeek room covered sensors

[blazing granite]

it took only 60 years, maybe in the next 60 they will debate what's the right approach and in other 60 will do something 😂

good morning people!!

[mossy river]

Wait, I think one more would fix it

[crude stump]

turn one side into a train track

cut towns on the amount of lanes

downs

nah the curve is too much tho

[mossy river]

Usually the cause of traffic jams like that are something further down the road. Potentially traffic lights or something causing drivers to slow down.

[crude stump]

yeah

hm

[wintry sluice]

is there a bypass?

[vapid ravine]

Hey guys, I have Kali-Linux loaded up into Vmware player but every time I try to change the password and username I get stuck on the Kali log in screen without the login interface

Any advice?

[sick lance]

What username are you using?

[vapid ravine]

The one I’ve been trying is “Hammer”, not meant to be secure I just wanted to mess around with Kali in a low risk wat

way

[sick lance]

Ok, try hammer

Linux uses lowercase usernames.

[vapid ravine]

Maybe the issue is the password I was using had a capital in it?

Like I can log in it just doesn’t boot up to the home page of kali

[sick lance]

It would be really silly not to allow password complexity.

[vapid ravine]

It just gets stuck on the screen after you log in, the blue Kali screen after your credentials have been accepted

[sick lance]

That doesn't seem like a login issue.

VM or host?

[vapid ravine]

VM

[sick lance]

https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?33825-Kali-2016-2-Screen-freezes-after-login

[vapid ravine]

When I use the defaults it doesn’t do this

Oh so it might be my nvidia drivers not meshing with the VM/Kali?

[sick lance]

Nvidia has been bad for Kali for awhile, but I have 0 issues.

[vapid ravine]

I’ll just stick with the defaults for now

Kali is fully functional if I don’t change the password or username, and I’m not using it for anything security related atm

[crude stump]

yk whats kinda annoying about linux is if i want to go back to a certain directory i have to cd and redo the whole change directory

[sick lance]

Change what? lol

[crude stump]

so like look lets say im doing Desktop/Exercise-Files/201.zeek and i want to change to 202.zeek i have to get rid of it all by doing just cd and restarting the whole command: cd Desktop

is there another way?

[sick lance]

is 202.zeek inside excercise files?

if so

[crude stump]

yes

[sick lance]

cd ..

[crude stump]

hm

[sick lance]

That will take you back one directory.

[crude stump]

oo

life saver

thanks scubz

r

[static kettle]

guys this is the fourth day i am trying to add ubuntu to my website through kasmweb as a workspace and that should be simple and i dont know where is the problem and i am stuck for 4 days can anyone help?

[blazing granite]

that's why I don't use the vm file, I just download the ISO and install the VM from the ISO gives me more control and customization

[crude stump]

i use iso too

or am i not?

says i downloaded the iso file 🤷‍♂️

[winged crater]

hey can someone help me with allotting processors accroding to my pc specs in VMware m a little confused

and yeah i just installed kali linux installer and extracted to a folder now i have some files but dont know which one to put in the vmware choose iso file section

@sick lance sorry for ping can u help pls

[sick lance]

Just let vmware choose

[winged crater]

@sick lance

[winged crater]

whata bout the iso file ?

[sick lance]

You're creating a VM, and you're making it so much harder for yourself.

Do you have an ISO?

[rapid merlin]

👋🏻

[winged crater]

i installed the basic instller zip from the website extracted it and u can see all the files in the above folder

[winged crater]

hi

[crude stump]

ah ik why

your trying to download the pre made virtual machine version im pretty sure

[crude stump]

when you open up the kali linux files whats in there

are there 2 diferent things?

[winged crater]

@crude stump

[sick lance]

Use the WinRAR file.

[winged crater]

what?

[sick lance]

Choose it there.

[winged crater]

🙂

[sick lance]

File > New VirtualMachine

[winged crater]

i know how to make virtual machines 🙂

[crude stump]

isnt that what your asking to do tho?

[winged crater]

no i cant find the iso file to put it there

[sick lance]

I dunno, you're making it pretty hard for youself by all the messages.

[crude stump]

it says the iso is in there already

looks like it

[winged crater]

no that was from past

[sick lance]

Change that drop down to "all files"

[crude stump]

oh

[sick lance]

You know you're not looking for an ISO file.

[winged crater]

ok now i can see files so it should be in isolinux ryt ?

[sick lance]

It will say the file name in the above screenshot of WinRar file earlier.

[winged crater]

thats the zip name non-extracted

[sick lance]

Then you want to extract it to an ISO file.

[boreal scarab]

@sand trench not cheese, but cookie dough in #876804968731009055 👀

[winged crater]

i think i m not able to communicate properly to u ok listen , I installed this one

extracted it and i got those files u see in kali linux files

[sick lance]

Do you use WinRar?

[winged crater]

yes

[sick lance]

Then go back to winrar, select the Winrar file and extract it as an ISO.

[winged crater]

ok lemme try that

[blazing granite]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[winged crater]

@blazing granite 😂

@sick lance

[blazing granite]

it's like a whole saga just to install Kali 😂

[winged crater]

xD

[crude stump]

wait you got it X?

[winged crater]

no scrub said extract it as in ISO but i dont think there is a option for that 🙂

[crude stump]

this might help

https://www.win-rar.com/open-iso-file.html?&L=0#:~:text=Choose the files you want,saved in your destination folder!

[winged crater]

oh

nope its already checked

[crude stump]

wdym

whats checked

[blazing granite]

ISO is a stand-alone file no need to extract anything you can put that on the VM soft of your choice and install Kali from there, or you can download the ova file that it's like a premade vm and it's easier to install

[winged crater]

my borther i know i am trying to find that iso files from the files i got after i extracted the zip i downlaoed kali linux installer

[crude stump]

watch a youtube video

[winged crater]

i already tried they all r 3yrs ago and for virtualbox 🙂

wait i swear if this beach wants the whole zip inside him i will kill this software

[crude stump]

what

[brisk tree]

😍

[sick lance]

https://cdimage.kali.org/kali-2024.1/kali-linux-2024.1-installer-amd64.iso

[sand trench]

grrrrrr it is still there

[crude stump]

not for me

[blazing granite]

My bad, to enter the conversation, I realise I don't have the patience any more to do this for free 😂 all those years of customer service/tech support really got me I guess

[winged crater]

same thing i downloaded

[blazing granite]

maybe make a poll to take that down 😉 😂

[sick lance]

So why is it winrar and not iso?

[crude stump]

winrar be confusing fr

[tranquil sierra]

someone got a code on telegramabd then got call by someone and telling your telegram code and close the call

[crude stump]

?

[winged crater]

@sick lance told ya same thing

[sick lance]

Were you expecting the call?

[tranquil sierra]

No

[sick lance]

Then use that...

[sick lance]

Then ignore it, chances are it was a wrong number, or the start of a scam.

[winged crater]

but why its like the zip icon and not the cd or iso icon tho?

[tranquil sierra]

they send me a code and 5 mins later they call me

[sick lance]

Because WinRar is set to recognise ISO files.

[tranquil sierra]

i used telegram 1 year ago

[sick lance]

They want your account, if you didn't ask for a code, don't give them it.

[naive violet]

This is a common scam

[tranquil sierra]

they said me the code on call

and closed it

they closed the call

[winged crater]

@sick lance sorry i know m annoying u but is there a chance u know why when i right click it shows me open with and winrar but before it used to show extract here extract all files i dont have to open software everytime

[blazing granite]

block the number and move on

[tranquil sierra]

okay

i wish ill be fine

thanks

[sick lance]

Not sure why you're computer is behaving that way. 🙂

[crude stump]

get the bad

bat

jk

[winged crater]

i think i will poision my computer

[blazing granite]

sometimes winrar can make itself default app for ISO if you don't have any in your system I've seen it happen

[sick lance]

Yeah, but telling winrar to ignore ISO files should make that go away.

[crude stump]

how you gonna do that

[winged crater]

by filling water in his motherboard

[blazing granite]

indeed, if you enter the settings of winrar and uncheck the ISO format 🙂 too much work maybe 😂

[crude stump]

💀

[sick lance]

I'm not even going to ask, but ask that you stop with these sort of jokes.

[winged crater]

i cant even joke ? in general ?

[blazing granite]

he can do all that but can't spin a freaking VM 😉 😂

[sick lance]

You can joke, but rememeber this is a professional enviorment, for some people, this is literally their work place.

[azure hinge]

what the hell is wrong with ths tryhack me openvp n

[winged crater]

m sorry will take care of that thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2137)

[azure hinge]

buy subscription but still always eroros.

[sick lance]

Which country are you in?

[azure hinge]

Nepal

[winged crater]

dude seriously u won't believe but m good in this but sometimes my pc just start doing things that doesnt exist in this world

[azure hinge]

border country of india in case if you dont know

[tranquil sierra]

sir can i ask how they find my number

if you know

[sick lance]

I know where it is.

I think the price is either euro or GPB.

[sick lance]

If that was your phone number I deleted, I have a pretty good idea...

[naive violet]

They might just had tried every phone number, or found it somewhere

[tranquil sierra]

its their number

oh okay

thanks so much

[crude stump]

well thats also how people get you're number they find it and share it around

[winged crater]

ur privacy settings is not well ig

[blazing granite]

maybe they have some kind of random generator, it's like throwing pasta to the wall and see what stick

[tranquil sierra]

im the pasta?

[sick lance]

Auto-dialler.

Dial 1111111
dial 1111112
dial 1111113

[blazing granite]

you're the one that stuck 😂

[tranquil sierra]

yes😅

[blazing granite]

when I got calls like that I block the number and move on, it's not worth a second of my time

[azure hinge]

???

[sick lance]

I have my phone set to automatically block spam.

[crude stump]

also its scary but if you look up your name all your information pops up

[tranquil sierra]

im scarred of telegram part they send me a code and tellled me in a call after 7 around mins

[sick lance]

It's self explanitory..

Unless theyre is some sort of fees.

You'll pay the same amount regardless.

[crude stump]

just a scammer. they wont you to call so they can phish for information off you

want

[azure hinge]

I have no problem with payment

my problem is with the vpn

ping the machine no error

just move toward solvin....aways breaks connection