general

[sudden copper]

dw it happens all the time everywhere xD

[tawny magnet]

you do all the work, and i get all the credit and money /s

[final atlas]

An educational platform attracts the dumbest of people

Gotta love it

[scenic bobcat]

yup

[fallen nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-together-finding-a-food-journey-travelling-edward-wong-hau-pepelu-tivruski-iv-gif-26883813

[buoyant tree]

it was something cat related name, when we were talking about a stable shell

[rapid merlin]

Good night y'all!

[scenic bobcat]

someone said "oh ping 'server owner' he does that" and dude just started spam pinging him 🤣

poor dude

[sudden copper]

hi there

weren't you a Fluff clan member?

[final atlas]

I can only imagine the intellegience of these people in real life

[glossy portal]

you'd be surprised

[scenic bobcat]

idk too many people get their "hacking knowledge" from movies and think its like "typing quickly on a keyboard for 5min" and suddenly "ACCESS GRANTED"

[arctic hollow]

their probably kids, its normal

[buoyant tree]

ye

[final atlas]

But I want to be like mr.robot......

[scenic bobcat]

mr Robot was actually pretty accurate

[glossy portal]

The speed at which the hacks take place, probably not

[scenic bobcat]

a lot of the stuff they show is like tools from Kali etc.

[final atlas]

Yeah, I was really into info sec like 8 years ago and suddenly dropped it. I remember mr.robot was sorta accurate to a degree, especially with the terminology and how it was used.

[arctic hollow]

oh yea, are s3&4 good? i took a break after season 2, it was fun tho

[tawny magnet]

meanwhile: APT groups playing 3 year plays just to get a backdoor in an opensource library to target developers on x86-64 platforms running debian and redhat based distros.

[glossy portal]

eh s4 felt rushed

[final atlas]

Tbh, I wasn't a big fan of how maniacal he was becoming. I felt like it sorta strayed away from the main plot.

But overall, the show was pretty good.

[arctic hollow]

what internal voices does to a mf

[glossy portal]

Not that far off from reality for some people, considering the substance abuse

[final atlas]

That one executive that took it up the butt even though he had a wife and kids sorta reminded me of Griffith from Berserk.

I forgot his name

[scenic bobcat]

yea, also the thing that stood out to me is the CTF that got mentioned in some part and he's like "oh we need this computer lemme just real quick solve this for you"

wish i could do CTFs in 2min

[glossy portal]

That's a real CTF too iirc, with an actual number

[scenic bobcat]

Yea it is

[final atlas]

Just get better

[arctic hollow]

my boy tyrell

[final atlas]

Yes! Tyrell

The things he did to get to his goal.

Wild...

[arctic hollow]

honestly i kinda love the guy, in a 'love to hate him' way

[dire crane]

Don't you dare spoil anything

[glossy portal]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pHwqj99wK1U

[arctic hollow]

sorry ;-;

[final atlas]

oops

[sick lance]

Pwncat

[sudden copper]

I FOUND ITTTTT

OMG

[scenic bobcat]

lmao

[sudden copper]

@shut hawk i found it using the App

i couldn't find it using the browser

it's called Whey Me

[dire crane]

wasnt it netcat?

[pine stratus]

There are so many unreal cases

[final atlas]

I liked that they actually used real terminology like script kiddies

[pine stratus]

Networking tool

🙊

[sudden copper]

the song doesn't exist on youtube

[arctic hollow]

yea, but to be honest, so far it seems like the most real hacking show out there

[sudden copper]

Bruh

[pine stratus]

Agreed

[scenic bobcat]

I mean.. compared to the usual TV hacking scene.. its probably in top3 easy; some of it was obviously edited for dramatic effect etc. but terminology was accurate, tools were real, social engineering actually got used..

[dire crane]

?

[rapid merlin]

Tbh the top hacking movie i enjoyed watching is WHO AM I

A german movie very nice one

[final atlas]

I'd actually like to see more shows like mr.robot. It's just hard to do it without the over exaggeration and zoom in's with these make shift terminals.

[arctic hollow]

now that we're on this topic, can you guys recommend any cybersecurity movie/show? i dont know any other than mr robot

[final atlas]

"we gotta hack into this server" types at 400 WPM with the worst music ever

[rapid merlin]

Go watch WHOAMI

[arctic hollow]

noted, thx :D

[pine stratus]

it's a tool used for networking purposes

[arctic hollow]

oh noo they got the masks as well xd

[vast badger]

I feel the Drums of liberation

[dire crane]

ah nvm that was another discussion with netcat the other day

[pine stratus]

Social engineering Part was so good

[dire crane]

yeah i only read that they are looking for something with cat, that was already a topic the other day

[rapid merlin]

Yess haha

[rapid merlin]

True true especially the ending, a masterclass

[final atlas]

Since I'm starting to get back into the world of info sec. But it's been about 8 years since I really touched anything related. Is there any outside websites/books/resources that the community recommends to continue my learning in this domain?

[scenic bobcat]

probably wont hurt to run over basics again or so and then go from there?

#974406074444685322 #878393611929129000 - you can probably skip over a lot of it tho depending on knowledge you still got 😅

[wintry sluice]

seen this book recommended a couple of time in #bookclub
#bookclub message

[final atlas]

Gotcha, I just meant more of outside websites. I do like the content that they have on the website. I work in analytics, so I frequently use things like Python and SQL often.

[glossy portal]

If you want book recommendations, blackhat python is good if you haven't read

[final atlas]

Thanks! I do remember this back in the day as being one of the better books out there. Are the government websites still a good place to learn these things as well? Or is that outdated material?

I'm not even sure if that's a thing anymore.

[glossy portal]

I haven't checked it out

[hollow pivot]

The main plot is his mental health

[final atlas]

Good to see that a lot of these books are still widely used today. I'll check it all out. Thanks for the referrals!

[wispy vessel]

hi guys any one can tell what i can do with

/echo?p=HELLO!!
php injection
it literally print everything even if i write ( ; ) it will print it any idea how to bypass it and execute a command?

+I can't access the code

[final atlas]

I always thought it was just them trying to stop E-corp

[glossy portal]

Reminds me of someone, Terry Davis, if mentioning him is allowed here

[final atlas]

Wow, I haven't heard that name in so long. He died right?

[glossy portal]

Yes, that's correct

[final atlas]

Obviously screwed up in the head, but he seemed smart in his own way

[hollow pivot]

DId you watch season 4?

[glossy portal]

CS attracts a lot of misunderstood folks I think, we have a lot of abstract intelligence stuff, but less of the emotional intelligence

[final atlas]

I think? It was such a long time ago. I just remember some key parts but not much.

But yeah, I do know that the MC's mental illness was a huge part of the show as well.

I just don't remember the ending.

[sudden copper]

How can i find a music that doesn't exist

[glossy portal]

DID is pretty disabling yes

[mossy river]

Make it

[sudden copper]

like it's not on youtube nor Spotify

[hollow pivot]

It gets really deep, and you quickly realize that the main story isn't about hacking or E-corp.

[wintry sluice]

what music?

[sudden copper]

it's called Whey me on Shazam

but it doesn't exit on youtube nor spotify

[final atlas]

Soundcloud?

[sudden copper]

it's only on Apple music

[sudden copper]

nope

[final atlas]

Then I have no idea. I know artists unofficial music tends to get leaked there

[final atlas]

Just saw a quick tldr of the ending episodes, what you said makes sense now.

[sudden copper]

it's on soundcloud but not the actual song

i want to know where did it came from

like how is it so popular on shorts

[hollow pivot]

A lot of people didn't enjoy the change from hacking to mental health, but I feel that's what makes the series so impactful.

[final atlas]

I think it works similar to tiktok where you can use songs from other videos. But looking at if it's on other platforms, I don't really see it anywhere else.

[sudden copper]

exactly that's why im so confused

[final atlas]

The artist probably just wants it on apple music specifically for revenue reasons due to increased popularity

[sudden copper]

i think the actual music is just 30 seconds long

that's why it's not an actual song

it's just used for shorts

[sick lance]

No?

If I meant netcat I'd have said netcat

I use pwncat, for rev shells and ssh etc

[sand trench]

shadow is probably slightly weird in using basically only nc to catch shells and manually stabilise them

know that shot shadow in the foot multiple times while doing shaker

[buoyant tree]

Oh k, the pwncat thing

[sand trench]

pwncat is whacky as there is 2 pwncats

[buoyant tree]

thats what I was asking for thanks

[fathom hull]

pwncat no thank u

i prefer normal shells xd

rlwrap nc -nlvp 443

and some C2 msf/empire or cobalt

[cunning shoal]

;,;

[sand trench]

eeew you are an rlwrap user

plaing nc all the way

[fathom hull]

dont u talk bad about my rlwrap

[sand trench]

*please realise the above is a joke

[fathom hull]

;-;

[fathom hull]

i know

[cunning shoal]

;-;

[fathom hull]

i use to joke a lot as well

[fathom hull]

stop copying me

[cunning shoal]

i was here first

[fathom hull]

no

i was here first

[cunning shoal]

yes

[fathom hull]

no

[cunning shoal]

not true

[fathom hull]

true

!not true

[cunning shoal]

2023 user

im 2020

[fathom hull]

ok u was here first

[cunning shoal]

now submit to the bread 🍞

this is what you use now

[fathom hull]

no

[cunning shoal]

🍞

yes

[fathom hull]

no

i dont submit to the bread

[cunning shoal]

what about toast?

[fathom hull]

toast is actually good

but no

[cunning shoal]

hmm

[fathom hull]

i dont submit to stuff not even a bread

[cunning shoal]

what about a bacon sandwich

[fathom hull]

thats tempting but no

[cunning shoal]

bread pebbles is good though

pebbles from bread

[fathom hull]

or bread from pebbles

which one is best

[cunning shoal]

this is also true

[fathom hull]

i only talk factz

[cunning shoal]

pebbles from the rock bread from the pebbles

[fathom hull]

dont u mention the rock

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[fathom hull]

i be scared of the rock

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

i cant even remember the last time i was in this server

[fathom hull]

the rock scares me

he is evil

[cunning shoal]

no

hes just in the sun all day

makes him immobile

[fathom hull]

i started to chat a lot here lately mby because ive being done a couple of ctfs lately

[cunning shoal]

not me xD Im just having some drinks while im off work and thought why not

[fathom hull]

[cunning shoal]

wait...

your discord was made last year???!!

[fathom hull]

yes

usually desktop

[cunning shoal]

is this your first discord account or a smerf or alt

[fathom hull]

C:\Users\someuser\Desktop\

[hazy pivot]

I checked the desktop of the only "abnormal" user, Jon, but got no result. Thanks, I''ll dig deeper!

[fathom hull]

i use this account usually

[tawny magnet]

[cunning shoal]

nahh

i cant be getting old

don't believe it

[fathom hull]

i dont have time to create fake accounts and also dont have interest because im not a troll

i just like to joke a lot

lol

[cunning shoal]

its not that

its the fact your main was created a year ago

like thats crazy to me

[tawny magnet]

Look at my boi

[fathom hull]

beautyyy

[cunning shoal]

approved for consumption 👍

[fathom hull]

i want a black cat '-'

and a wolf

and a raccoon

[cunning shoal]

you just want the whole animal kingdom

in your bedroom

[fathom hull]

basically yes

[cunning shoal]

and then what

try playing siege with a parrot in your face?

[fathom hull]

i dont play games :(

joke

i play usually single player games

online bf 2042 and elder scrolls :)

[fathom hull]

i want a parrot as well

because they're cute

[cunning shoal]

what bread?

i friends has one and it just cusses at him all day xD

[fathom hull]

😂

[sick lance]

#room-help please

[rapid merlin]

Mine is sleeping

[fathom hull]

beautiful

[hazy pivot]

my bad, sorry

[fathom hull]

now i want a cat so much waaa

[rapid merlin]

Haha thank you i appreciate it

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @fathom hull (current: #700 - 5)

[hazy pivot]

by the way, is there no problem with the level updates on the discord?

[rapid merlin]

You should get one they are the best and the worst animals at the same time haha

[sick lance]

There is, staff are aware

[cunning shoal]

i got one recently she likes to sit with me when im on the computer

[hazy pivot]

thanks for the quick answer)

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2130)

[cunning shoal]

my cat chewed through my last headphones while i was asleep

[rapid merlin]

I bet your cat is still young, mine used to do it when he was younger

[cunning shoal]

ye were got her whe she was a kitten

she in the transition stage now

still likes to try and attack the clocks and flys

and my feet

[rapid merlin]

Haha still a baby cutie

[cunning shoal]

she got stuck in a tree the other day and we had to get a ladder to get here down 💀

[rapid merlin]

Mine just wants to chill on my chest when he sees me laying and he's 5yo

[cunning shoal]

mine does that in the morning before i getup for work its nice xD

[rapid merlin]

Poor baby, she knows how to climb tho haha

[rapid merlin]

It is fr

[cunning shoal]

not how to get down though 💀

[rapid merlin]

She needs practice

[cunning shoal]

yeah shes getting there

she can get up and down fences but not tress

were not quite there yet

[rapid merlin]

Haha she will get there, btw don't feed her the whiskas, mine used to eat them and since it's high with protein he had complications and couldn't pee, they had to do a surgery, idk if it the case for females, but just be careful and give her veggies sometimes and maybe replace them with chicken

[cunning shoal]

whiskas the cat food?

we tried that she didnt like it

so we got something else i don't know the name of it but she eats it and we give her chicken and such every now and then

[rapid merlin]

Yeah whiskas the cat food, but basically anything like the croquettes (idk if it's the right English word for it lol)

[rapid merlin]

I stopped giving him any processed food after the surgery he had and just feed him chicken and veggies

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/manon-kroket-gif-24202991

[cunning shoal]

we give her processed food as we dont have nay except from maybe some frozen stuff but we dot let her have that anyways

[rapid merlin]

Mhmm okay, i hope it's safe for her

[errant umbra]

Advanced 🅱️ersistent Threat

Good question 😅

[crude stump]

That’s what I’m saying

[crude stump]

Fried corn dog?

?

[cunning shoal]

thats what i got when i searched up croquettes as i dont know what her was refering too

[crude stump]

Oh yeah croquettes

[cunning shoal]

???

[crude stump]

Potato croquettes

[cunning shoal]

? is that what they are?

[crude stump]

There delicious

[cunning shoal]

still not following

[cunning shoal]

dontn know what they are

im from england

[crude stump]

It’s a French dish

It’s like fried dough almost with a filling

[cunning shoal]

that can be used to describe alot of things

[crude stump]

Well that’s what it is pretty much

[cunning shoal]

[crude stump]

A fried ball of dough with a filling

Look it up

[cunning shoal]

wait

like...

i forgot what there call

poutines?

[wintry sluice]

sounds like a doughtnut

[crude stump]

It’s sort of like a donut but it’s not sweet and it’s fried with bread crumbs

And with a filling

And no home

[cunning shoal]

dosent sound nice

[crude stump]

Hole

[cunning shoal]

thats for sure

[wintry sluice]

doughtnuts don't need a hole

[cunning shoal]

so a doughnut without a hole and has filing

sounds like meal deal type shit

[crude stump]

Then wouldn’t it just be dough then

[wintry sluice]

jam doughnuts: no hole, jam filling

[crude stump]

I though the nut in doughnut symbolized the hole

Could be wrong tho

[cunning shoal]

that just looks like a halloumi side

[crude stump]

What is that

[wintry sluice]

croquettes are tasty

[cunning shoal]

looks like this the middle is filled with halloumi cheese and garlic

[crude stump]

Ikr

[cunning shoal]

im feeling left out as we dont have them so i have no experience

[whole yew]

Croquettes aren't just made of dough. Mashed potato is also a common binder.

[wintry sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[cunning shoal]

xD just dont eat them cold there disgusting when there cold

[crude stump]

True forgot to say that

Basically fried stuff

[cunning shoal]

oof could have that here too much mash in everything in my opinion

[crude stump]

There

[cunning shoal]

like fried chicken ♥️

xD

im joking

[crude stump]

Yes

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-side-eye-meme-gif-7342782203446435526

everyone hide

sara is typing

[scenic bobcat]

pain - bluescreening with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
already reinstalled all drivers along with fresh windows install

[scenic bobcat]

yes, hide

[cunning shoal]

shhhhh

im hidden im not here

[tropic stratus]

anyone else dislike that ping is apparently infinite on linux compare to windows?

[cunning shoal]

eh shortcut to kill it is simple

[tropic stratus]

Like if I type "ping xxx" on windows cmd it sends maybe 4 pings and stops

[errant umbra]

I blame @boreal scarab

[proven quartz]

You can decide how many pings you want to send with an option

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-typing-loading-waiting-shake-gif-16356908

[tropic stratus]

on Linux I pinged an IP to verify/check a connection problem I was having with the VPN, went up go get a drink, and sent like 15 pings lol

[errant umbra]

Ping -c 4 8.8.8.8

[scenic bobcat]

Yea, idk how he did it but he wrecked my pc across discord has to be that 1 time he messaged here when i was talking

[boreal scarab]

What'd I break?! I didn't break anything! YOU HAVE NO PROOF!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[errant umbra]

You causing blue screens

[scenic bobcat]

You can add a win11 to your kill count

[errant umbra]

Roll back to an older stable driver maybe?

[sand trench]

shadow is looking forward to matt blue screening linux now that that is an option with systemd

[rapid merlin]

I didn't mean this croquettes, it's called croquettes for cats

[boreal scarab]

That makes my count:

Windows 10: 70+
Windows 11: 2 (was 1)
Windows 7: 3
CentOS: 2
Kali: 2
Arch: 3
Mint: 2

[sand trench]

damn only apple is safe

[errant umbra]

So far...

[proven quartz]

He just sets those on fire 🔥

[sand trench]

FWOOM FWOOM

[scenic bobcat]

I can look at it but still odd i dont recall doing an update to my drivers, just started happening 2 days ago

[cunning shoal]

dam we went off the rails xD

[cunning shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-barbie-oppenheimer-meme-cillian-murphy-theory-gif-8102327772591152629

[wintry sluice]

you blue screened on linux!?

[boreal scarab]

Maybe 👀

[sand trench]

alternatively kernel panic

[scenic bobcat]

I already went through the entire checklist for this error; - did a Memory test, overheating isnt an issue, am usually just idle on desktop when it happens; no malware, happens on fresh install and already reinstalled all drivers. so all thats left afaik is hardware issues

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-screen-man-streams-gif-26170892

[sand trench]

https://xkcd.com/1586/

xkcd: Keyboard Problems

In the future, a group of resistance fighters send me back in time with instructions to find the Skynet prototype and try to upgrade it.

yes there is basically an xkcd for any tech problem you can have

[scenic bobcat]

atleast it's still under warranty so hopefully it can get fixed

[agile lichen]

Hello

[sand trench]

as long as you did not sign any stupid arbritration clauses

[sand trench]

ello elo

[agile lichen]

Do you think about local pricing for countries with economic crisis like Turkey

[normal vessel]

If I have a career question where should I ask?

nvm found it

[agile lichen]

@normal vessel I guess i can help you with that

[normal vessel]

I landed a cyber analyst interview! What are some basic questions I should be expecting? It's an entry level position working on a response team

[agile lichen]

In cyber analyst interviews in addition to questions to measure your technical skills you may also be asked questions about information security and network security in general

like- what is information securtiy? why is important?
what is a security vulnerability? can you give a example?
what are the types of security attacks? can you explain?

why is a important network security or what can be done to improve network security

[crude stump]

would people be a good answer for whats a security vulnerability lol

i mean its true

[agile lichen]

for the entry level, you may encounter such questions

[earnest raven]

selamlar

I want to ask a question? I participated in a bug bounty program and ı wrote bug bounty report and I sent a report but My report was answered negatively. I placed xss payload in report content html source code Afterwards I placed the document.cookie function in the payload and ı saw positive I encountered positive results and i reported it. my report was rejected why? Isn't this a weakness?

[crude stump]

#bug-bounty might help you out

actualy

it aint that active

[earnest raven]

thanks so match

[earnest raven]

why?

[mellow cove]

Hello

[crude stump]

how is everyone getting that clown thing

[mellow cove]

Discord loot boxes

[sand trench]

it was an april fools thingy from discord

[crude stump]

where are those?

bruh

i missed it

[mellow cove]

Nah I don't think

Go into user settings and there should be a tab called loot boxes

[crude stump]

alright

[sand trench]

meepity moop moopity meep time for a sleep sloop to the beep boops for shadow

[normal vessel]

thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @agile lichen (current: #2050 - 1)

[rapid merlin]

hows it going my fellow goonmaxxers

[azure hinge]

hello!Anyone else facing eerror with vpns

openvpn

[flat sky]

Uhm

Depends

Is it bitlag

Or just your proxy acting up

Like region

[rapid merlin]

occasionally

[azure hinge]

I face it on daily basis

keeps stating authentication failure .........

[flat sky]

Omg

Fr

[azure hinge]

I am from asia if I use one of europe do I face errors?

2024-04-05 06:57:36 Authenticate/Decrypt packet error: bad packet ID (may be a replay): [ #64596 ] -- see the man page entry for --no-replay and --replay-window for more info or silence this warning with --mute-replay-wa

feels like thm wont let me play any ctfs today

[flat sky]

Dam uhm idk

[azure hinge]

anyone else who keep facing these errors

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/omfg-rana-omg-crazy-aaahh-gif-18994875

[crude stump]

See I don’t know if the European servers are fixed

But if there not try a us server

That’s what I use and it’s fine

Or try another server aleast

[azure hinge]

I used IN sever

[crude stump]

Try another one

[azure hinge]

tried eu vip and still didn't fix

[crude stump]

I think somone else was also have problems with that server

[crude stump]

Try the us one

[azure hinge]

okey

[rapid merlin]

you well deserved the clown profile

[rapid merlin]

look you got that .dirbuster username.

😲

I couldn't figure out what to put

hmm.

[molten sky]

heh. lynux. nice.

[rapid merlin]

bet

[rapid merlin]

already taken

[tawny magnet]

[rapid merlin]

goscan

that's a good one.

I like my new one

: )

you guys can still make some propositions tho

lynux_usr

you go often on htb ?

Yes.

is it really that different from thm

I would say No.

bet

if you have done easy-med-Hard rooms on thm, you should be able to Quack most of those one HTB.

yeah but the one time I went on htb it was too much bro

you needed to pay for each room

you talking about Labs?

and like I try doing the linux one cause at the time I only knew linux and I coulnd't find the answer lmao

well you gotta pay for the Retired one.

even people online had troubles

it was like tutorial

lessons

academy?

idk how they call it

yeah

I might still have an account

yea. there VMs has too many Problms with their Network.

yeah I have my account lmao

let me show you

my frnd is taking CPTS

everything costs cubes

but he had so many prblms with VMs.

[rapid merlin]

that's Why I prefer tryhackme Learning Paths.

; )

I can probably finish it now but at the time it was so complicated for me

[buoyant tree]

yea academy causes a lot of issues

[rapid merlin]

yeah tryhackme felt so easy

like it's so beginner friendly

Yep.

but didn't know about the other stuff

I might try the ctf site

Osiris = RopeTwo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't done both.

they are 300 on one single machine ?

oh my bad for the screen

[rapid merlin]

we are here do talk on THM

[umbral bay]

Let's stick to discussing TryHackMe. 🙂

[rapid merlin]

not HTB 😄

[crude stump]

Guys what language is most used for software development

[rapid merlin]

yeah I was just curious

C, RUST.

my heart is still committed to tryhackme don't worry

[crude stump]

That’s what I though C

Thank you

[rapid merlin]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Terry_A._Davis_2017.jpg

Mewing.

it's too good to be real

[rapid merlin]

what Paths you doing?

red

I skipped stuff tho

so I'm finishing beginner path rn

lmao

bro I did junior pentest

I thought it was beginner

anyway I'm speedrunning the complete beginner to finaly attack the red one

[molten sky]

jr pentest is a good one tho

[rapid merlin]

Jr-Pentester.

[rapid merlin]

yeah it was really nice

[winged summit]

What the heck are all these colorful avatars? Lol am I seeing demons or did discord do some promotional thing?

[thorny walrus]

loot boxes

for a clown decoration

april fools joke

[scenic bobcat]

The clown thing was an april fools from discord

[winged summit]

Ahh I see lol

[thorny walrus]

You can still get it iirc

[winged summit]

Ehhh, pass lol thanks though. Not knocking it, but I like my avatar heh

[thorny walrus]

lol all good

[crude stump]

Bro I literally can’t find the loot boxes

[molten sky]

discord was shadow-acquired by activision apparently

[winged summit]

Hey productivity, how are you?

[thorny walrus]

do you see the badge icon on my profile?

[molten sky]

dead inside but otherwise peachy

[thorny walrus]

click that

[molten sky]

yourself?

[winged summit]

Me too! Lol

👍

[thorny walrus]

I also dont think its possible on mobile

[crude stump]

That’s why then

I’m on mobile

[thorny walrus]

😔

[crude stump]

Will it still be there tomorrow

Or maybe night for you idk

Time zones am I right

[molten sky]

@winged summit since moving back to irc, discord has fallen to the wayside again lol

thm needs a discord <-> irc bridge

[winged summit]

Man, irc. Old school. I’ve completely assimilated into discord. Been mostly hangin on the TCM Sec server lately

[thorny walrus]

its gone apr 8th iirc

[lavish shell]

Loot boxes are possible on mobile. I've done it that way

[crude stump]

Oh plenty of time

Thank you

[thorny walrus]

Odd

doesnt work for me

[crude stump]

Same

[thorny walrus]

a few other people ik had the same issue

[molten sky]

i was tolerant of discord for a while but it just keeps getting worse with every update lol -- so i was like why am i even bothering

irc is just ~ simple ~

it just works

it doesn't try and sell you shit

it doesn't change every other thursday

[lavish shell]

To be fair, I did it on April 1 when it popped up at the bottom and you had to do was click the box that said "loot boxes are here"

[molten sky]

oh, and updates actually work properly

[winged summit]

Yeah man, 100% but are there any good servers left on irc? Err, channels too?

[molten sky]

i use a few

i tend to lean towards a specific couple just like i leaned towards a specific few on here, but there's a bunch

[winged summit]

I see. Well if you’re willing to share, feel free to DM me

I might check them out

Depending

[molten sky]

I ~suppose~ I can

[winged summit]

Lol

[pure kernel]

any sl people here ??

[molten sky]

but only cause you begged

[lavish shell]

@crude stump link for loot box: https://discord.com/settings/lootboxes

[thorny walrus]

ye ik

it takes me to my browser

I think you mightve meant to ping Aces

[lavish shell]

Yeah

[tropic stratus]

How I feel about all the clown decorations

[thorny walrus]

This guy does not clown around

[tropic stratus]

Lol

My faovrite thing about this meme is Edgeworth never even says that

like, ever, in the entire series. HOWEVER, it is exactly the type of thing he would say.

and one case in the second game heavily involves a clown

Same with the updated autopsy report meme, It happens once, in the entire series.

but everyone acts like Edgeworth does it every trial in every game

[neon river]

UNIX support is interesting lol

[rapid merlin]

I'm scared

[waxen juniper]

Does anyone know how I can use my own VM specifically for the rooms? The attack boxes are SUUUUPER slow for me.

[rapid merlin]

use a kali os on it

you should have all the tools the attackboxes give you

and use openvpn on the vm not your computer to connect to the target machines

I hope it's making sense

[waxen juniper]

ive done that but i dont get access to all the files i get to complete the room

[rapid merlin]

which file

give me a example it would be easier for me to help you

you can verify your account if you wanna send screen

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Apr 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

[waxen juniper]

got it

one sec

[rapid merlin]

ping me when you are done

[rapid merlin]

what room is that?

https://tryhackme.com/r/room/encryptioncrypto101

to verify a file it says you use checksum

it's not that heavy or I guess I'm the Encryption guy here. 😄

but I thought it was sha256

or something like that

I thought it was the hash

[waxen juniper]

for example, I'll need to access a certain file on the attack box for whatever reason. How to I get the files that are on the attack box to my own VM. I've tried doing it before and I couldnt get it to work. This is after connecting to openvpn with the config file.

I hope I'm explaining that well lmao. Still picking up linux at the moment.

[rapid merlin]

I got you

[worn thorn]

edgeworth do be the man.

[rapid merlin]

you need to use openvpn to connect to tryhackme network

so you can connect to the machine you deployed

in your room there is a green button saying start machine right ?

[waxen juniper]

ya leme boot up a room rq

and the vm

[rapid merlin]

and then there is credential like username and password to connect to this machine ?

sounds good

[waxen juniper]

so I'm doing the SOC rooms right now. I've only had to SSH into something a couple times

i dont know if that makes a difference

[rapid merlin]

yeah well you need to ssh into the machine to access the files

you know how to do that ?

[waxen juniper]

ya i do

[rapid merlin]

but if you have issue with a room let's talk here #room-help

[waxen juniper]

i dont always get credentials tho

got it

[rapid merlin]

isn't the public key supposed to encrypt and the private decrypt ?

ok so I have like a password and I use a private key to encrypt it right

nevermind I know you shouldn't using encryption for password my example is bad

I'm confusing myself lmao

let me read the room again and again until I understand

thanks for the help tho

[lavish shell]

Lol, imagine photos of yourself. You have your public pictures you post on the Internet, and then you have your private pictures you hope never get on the Internet 😂

[rapid merlin]

I get that

but why would I want people to know the secret to see my private picture aka the public key to decrypt the data I encrypted

that's the thing that doesn't click in my head

let me watch videos lmao

I'm gonna bother you too much for nothing

[lavish shell]

If I created a chat server on my terminal to talk to you, I may encrypt it. Therefore, you would need my public key to connect to my private chat

[rapid merlin]

why would you need the key to encrypt stuff

you don't want to encrypt as a bad guy

you want to decrypt data stolen

[lavish shell]

lol, watch the video

[rapid merlin]

yeah

[clear jackal]

It's two way

[rapid merlin]

like it can do both ?

[clear jackal]

If someone has your public key, they can encrypt to you but also decrypt what you send them

[lavish shell]

Much better explanation. @rapid merlin sorry if I confused

[rapid merlin]

so you share the key only to people who you want to know the data

[rapid merlin]

all good mine were also confusing lmao

[chilly veldt]

Welp, I did something bad yesterday under my workout and now I can't walk today without being in incredible pain

[clear jackal]

You could do that, yes.

You can also share your public key with the public, for say email, so your communications are encrypted

[lavish shell]

Never understood exercise. Why people think making the heart work harder than necessary is good I don't know. My car doesn't work better if I slam on the gas, nor does it stop better if I slam on the brakes

[clear jackal]

I've said something wrong, juun is here lol

[whole yew]

it actually doesn't matter. Your public key primarily verifies that you are the originator of the signed data. Encrypting/decrypting is much more complicated than verifying a signature.

[rapid merlin]

well I watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuyzuNBFWxQ

[clear jackal]

This is a bad comparison

[rapid merlin]

I think I get some of it

[whole yew]

PKI for message encryption/decryption relies on both public and private keys - RSA and EC algorithms are well known and well published if you want to know the technical details of the algorithms

[whole yew]

just based on this image...... No. Just no.

[clear jackal]

Your heart is a muscle. In order for the muscle to grow stronger, like your bicep, you need to work it out. Otherwise it loses strength and fails

[rapid merlin]

yeah but that's the thing you guys are talking about big stuff I'm talking about simple stuff like a exchange of data between two guy

one guy will use the public key to encryp stuff and the other would use the private one to decrypt

[whole yew]

Nope

Not really

[rapid merlin]

in the video the guy use an example of mail

people use public key to insert mail in a mail box

[whole yew]

That's oversimplified to an extreme

[rapid merlin]

and the private to get the mail out

yeah I know

cause I'm comparing encrypting to hashing

I learned hashing and in my head encrypting is the same just with key

[clear jackal]

But they aren't the same

[whole yew]

encrypting and hashing are not the same

[clear jackal]

Hashing is a one way function

[whole yew]

hashing is, by definition, not reversible

there is no key to extract the original information from a hash

[rapid merlin]

right

but there is in encryption

and this key can be public or private

[whole yew]

No

[rapid merlin]

no

[whole yew]

You need both public and private keys for each side

[rapid merlin]

ok ok

when you say side

who are we talking about

people or web browser and site

[whole yew]

doesn't matter

A and B

[rapid merlin]

alright

[clear jackal]

Alice and Bob both need public and private keys if you're talking about people

[rapid merlin]

alice and bob

ok ok

so everyone can get public

but you need both key to decrypt

and in aes is only one key

[whole yew]

https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/definition/RSA

[rapid merlin]

which is all the time private

[rapid merlin]

thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @whole yew (current: #10 - 740)

[rapid merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPXVSJnDA_A

I'm watching this

[clear jackal]

Not saying mental outlaw is a bad source, but I'd recommend finding additional videos

They generally release clickbait

[whole yew]

khan academy used to have good beginner videos for RSA

[lavish shell]

@rapid merlin Goes into quantum programming, but this Alice, Bob, and Eve thing is a good read to help you understand. https://labs.withsecure.com/publications/alice-bob-and-eve-how-quantum-technology-can-secure-against-adversaries

[whole yew]

that will not be helpful to them, zombie. They don't understand PKI fully, quantum is going to really be confusing.

[clear jackal]

Khan is a great resource

[rapid merlin]

alright thanks guys I'll watch all this stuff

[whole yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD72Ry60eP4

Computerphile and Numberphile are usually pretty good resources for learning math-related things

[clear jackal]

I like that Khan Academy started as a method of teaching his niece math over the internet

I am unfortunately math illiterate

[lavish shell]

Yeah, that's the portion of the Alice, Bob, Eve thing I was referencing lol. It's just I didn't know anymore examples of where to find it besides quantum programming

[rapid merlin]

all good

[lavish shell]

Don't ever get into that lol, that is some complicated stuff

[rapid merlin]

bet

[real compass]

Why isn’t there more IOS or Apple device rooms?

[sick lance]

It's tricky, you can't really run MacOs virtualised on non apple hardware.

[clear jackal]

Licensing and Apple being a walled garden

And the ways you get apple products virtualized, without their hardware, is against TOS

[lavish shell]

Speaking of Apple though, do they have some type of encrypted hard drive? Or other means of protection? I went to factory reset my Mac and it obliterated the whole thing, even erased the OS from the drive

[clear jackal]

If should bring it to the state of came out of the factory

So basically fresh install of the OS

[whole yew]

factory reset on a mac should bring you to initial setup on next boot

typically a small partition is reserved and used as the basis for initial setup process

[lavish shell]

It brought me to a black screen which basically stated I had no OS installed and that I should call a number or visit a site for customer support

Anyways, thanks guys

[twin ridge]

Gave 1 Rep to _juun (current: #10 - 741)

[whole yew]

it sounds like something went wrong during thatp rocess

[twin ridge]

You're still on cooldown

[whole yew]

you can only give rep once every 5 minutes, i think

[clear jackal]

Pretty sure there is or was a recovery built in

[lavish shell]

I used the recovery lol, that's how the OS got erased

[clear jackal]

Had to hit one of the F keys on boot and it would bring you to a menu to pull down the OS from Apple

[pure kernel]

if Ur running on mac u can install Ubuntu ,feel free to check that out

[lavish shell]

I don't know man, don't have the pc anymore so not worried

@whole yew Is there a place to request rooms? Like make suggestions for new ones?

[clear jackal]

#room-ideas

[whole yew]

Not a THM employee, so I really wouldn't know for sure, but taht would probably be a good place to start

[lavish shell]

That isn't in my list of channels, I'll check it out

[rapid merlin]

okay I finished every videos

[pure kernel]

heyy where are u from??

[rapid merlin]

they explined in detailed the maths behind it which wasn't what I was looking for at first

but I'm glad I learn it lmao

I might forget it tomorrow tho

anyway about our key stuff in all the example about bob and alice it's always the public key who encrypt and the private who decrypts

[whole yew]

But you'll understand and remember the high level explanation, even if you forget exactly how the math works out. But if you hadn't spent the time to learn the math part, it would never have really made sense.

[pure kernel]

sl education website got hacked by a 18 year old

[rapid merlin]

the only one where it was the inverse was when you want someone to prove he is the autor so by using his private key to encrypt we know he is the autor of the message

[rapid merlin]

you're 100% right

[whole yew]

Yeah. But the key take away is that encrypt/decrypt uses the keys for the same person. I can't use my private key to decrypt a message that used your public key.

[lavish shell]

You'll forgive me if I don't reveal too much, but suppose there's no harm in saying the U.S is where I'm from

[rapid merlin]

why couldn't you

[pure kernel]

na just trying to find a learning buddy

[rapid merlin]

if the message is meant to you

if you send a public key to someone

he encrypt stuff

and you use your private to decrypt

but yeah you cannot use your private key to decrypt anyone message

[whole yew]

Re-read what I said.

[rapid merlin]

ok

'But the key take away is that encrypt/decrypt uses the keys for the same person' I don't understand that

my english is not perfect sorry man

I think I get it

keys are personal and not universal

but that's what I said

like you need to send your public to someone

he use yours to encrypt

I'm just confusing in my english but I think I'm good

my brain is braining in french

the only thing he talks in the video that is a lil confusing is the beginning about clock arithmetic

I didn't get that part

I found videos about it all good now

[rapid merlin]

I re read it using a translator and it's 1am here for me try to be on my side my brain is dead so my english is awful

so I now get what you said

everything is clear thanks for taking time to help me

[hearty plover]

One TryHackmeRoom a day, keeps the doctor away

Good morning guys 🙂

[hidden hazel]

Morning

[lavish shell]

Well, the E.R doctors anyway, but may need to pencil in a few extra appointments for your local psychiatrist

[real compass]

Not even on virtualized hardware?

[sick lance]

No, still against their EULA

[real compass]

Darn, thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #1 - 2131)

Gave 1 Rep to didyougoogle (current: #20 - 387)

[gleaming hare]

Hi, do all Linux distributions support all tools? (such as kubuntu, lubuntu, kodachi etc.)

[lavish shell]

If your having issues, somethings require different installation techniques such as "apt install" "apt-get" pip install" ect.

[brisk tree]

morning

[sick lance]

👋

[lavish shell]

Top of the mournin ta ya lad

[brisk tree]

hows everyone today

[sick lance]

I'm OK, yourself?

[brisk tree]

im ok

[lavish shell]

Decent so far. But it's only 3 am

[brisk tree]

3am damn are you not tired

[lavish shell]

Nah, that's what years of the graveyard shift does to you.

[brisk tree]

damn thats rough

once years ago i stayed uo till 5am had to wake up at 7 and felt so bad. never did it again ahaha

[lavish shell]

Like vampires, sleep all day, awake all night lol

[brisk tree]

ahahahaha

[lavish shell]

It's when they shift your position and put you on first shift when it starts to kill you.

[brisk tree]

i bet. trying to fix sleep patterns is one of the worst things

[lavish shell]

Not able to sleep at 10pm, but having to be up by 4am

[brisk tree]

yeah that is not good

[lavish shell]

Really sucks when it affects your pay, because first shift doesn't get the hourly premium night shift does

[brisk tree]

yeah thaat is bad. can you not request to go on the night shift again

[lavish shell]

I prefer the night shift. First shift has all the "big wigs" and the workers are complainers. Night shift is more relaxed and just makes sure first shift has nothing to bitch about when they come in 😂

[brisk tree]

tbh i feel night shifts are better becuase less noise and distractions and better pay

if i ever got a job and was offered night shift id take it

[lavish shell]

Situations arise though where they want to train you on something new and force you to first shift

[brisk tree]

damn

[frank iron]

hi when buying a new router does anyone know how to check if it has monitor mode and Packet Injection.
ofc for my own use only on my own devices

[lavish shell]

I may be wrong , but I believe that has to do more with wether or not your pc is capable of it

[naive violet]

A router?

[frank iron]

yap

[naive violet]

A wifi card?

[naive violet]

Not a router thing

[frank iron]

doesn't your router need to support those things in the end?

[naive violet]

No

[lavish shell]

Your pc needs to

[naive violet]

No

The wireless NIC needs to.

[frank iron]

haha

[lavish shell]

Which is a part of?....the pc, right? Lol

[naive violet]

No

Usually when you're doing wifi stuff, you use an external one

[frank iron]

okok so i did but a waireless nic

[lavish shell]

yeah, a wifi dongle

[frank iron]

ya

but i dont know if it actually does all that

my friend told me it does

but i would like to know myself how to check those things

[naive violet]

Find the chipset, google it with the words "monitor mode" and then "packet injection"

[worn thorn]

see if there are reviews about the nic

[naive violet]

The router is the victim in the end.
There's now encrypted management frames which prevent packet injection etc

Sorry, "protected management frames"

[frank iron]

@naive violet thx i did find i think that says that it does use monitor mode and packet injection

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @naive violet (current: #2 - 2116)

[gleaming hare]

We can't put a trunk port into any VLAN in a switch, can we?

[frank iron]

you mean this:

@gleaming hare .

[gleaming hare]

So? )

Am I right?

[sick lance]

@gleaming hare the majority of your messages are questions (some that can be very easily found using Google), I hope you're not treating us like your own personal search engine?

[frank iron]

i think you just might be

[gleaming hare]

Cheers

[exotic lark]

thanks to everyone who made fowsniff ctf room, it was really interestring!!

btw, why my thm's level didn't update on this server? it's strange

[chilly veldt]

It's a bug, the Devs are working on it

[exotic lark]

oh, okey, i've just visited my profile page and saw 7 lvl

i was surprised

[brisk tree]

Hey

[hidden hazel]

morning people

[hidden aurora]

hi everyone ! For school we got to do the magiccat box but we dont get any information to do it and we are newby. The only box that we did is H4ck3rz

[sick lance]

Hi, we can't help with school work(Sure I've told you this before)

[hidden hazel]

What kind of school is that, lucky

[hidden aurora]

Epitech 😦

[arctic hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/smadging-speech-bubble-speech-bubble-smadging-gif-26061412

[sick lance]

Are you ok there?

[arctic hollow]

i just like to post random stuff, ill stop c:

[fleet finch]

hey guys. any experienced react.js dev here? I have a question about app and authentication

[worn thorn]

just ask and someone knowledgeable might response. Also I think that should be done in #programming

[fringe surge]

i had a cipher i needed a help with? which channel should i ask?

[sick lance]

Is this for TryHackMe?

[fringe surge]

no actually.. its just related to a ctf

[sick lance]

Is it an active CTF?

[steel aspen]

Do VMs that are being installed always make the host go slow?

Mmkay

Why do they look like failed programming variables like in bash

Think my computer has frozen trying to install the VM

[sick lance]

You're not having any luck with VM's are you?

[steel aspen]

How'd you guess lol

[sick lance]

VmWare?

[steel aspen]

It was doing great for 2 years

Virtual box

Oracle

[sick lance]

My condolences 🙏

[steel aspen]

Not a fan of virtual box?

Vmware was annoying when I used it

[sick lance]

Nah, I was hooked in Vmware as soon i used it.

[steel aspen]

Ah yeah there was something about it I didn't like

Maybe I like it more than virtual box now 😂

I really need to upgrade my pc

But that costs

[sick lance]

Yeah, they're a bummer.

I wish I could upgrade my GPU, but I'm in a mobile worksation, so I'm not able to.

[steel aspen]

Just gonna restart and restart the installation for like the 6th time in 2 days

Ah yeah that'd be annoying

[sick lance]

Have you tried download a brand new iso?

Or are you working off the same one?

[steel aspen]

Yeah I downloaded a new one and it's very slow

The newest one

I've copied the VHD from my old vm to transfer it to new one when I can. How do I transfer it over?

[sick lance]

you just assign it.

But it might be best just to create an entire new one.

[steel aspen]

It's got all my notes and everything. Can't lose it.

[spiral summit]

Which distros are you guys using? Parrot or Kali maybe Black Arch?

[steel aspen]

Kali and Ubuntu

2 separate

Just VMs tho

One day I'll do the full switch lol

[spiral summit]

Ubuntu?? I didn’t knew there was an hacking distro for ubuntu

[steel aspen]

Oh then just Kali if we're talking about that

[spiral summit]

Nah I think VM‘s are better for pentesting

[steel aspen]

I just thought you meant distro in general

Ubuntu can be ig lol

[spiral summit]

Nono yeah wrote it not so detailed

[worn thorn]

Switching to linux is going to be fun.

[spiral summit]

Trust me Linux is good

[worn thorn]

I know.

[spiral summit]

Switch to Ubuntu tho it will be your best friend. It has the most answers to problems

[sick lance]

Vms are good because it's easier to revert to a clean image for each pentest

[steel aspen]

Isn't there like Wubuntu?

[worn thorn]

I thought more of going with garuda.

[spiral summit]

That‘s true

[steel aspen]

It's like windows/Ubuntu together?

[spiral summit]

Garuda is good buuuuttt it is Arch Linux my man. When you have a Problem on Arch Linux.. good luck

[steel aspen]

Ubuntu with a Windows DE

[spiral summit]

Last time i used garuda it had major system problems

[spiral summit]

There is

[steel aspen]

What desktop do u prefer?

[worn thorn]

I need to see how it behaves with windows being veracrypted.

windows do be killing bootloaders after updates

[spiral summit]

Wow

[steel aspen]

I always go xfce cos I'm lazy to change it. Kdr plasma looks alright tho

Gnome looks generic

[spiral summit]

Well if you just want to see how it behaves try it with a VM first

[sick lance]

Xfce, I think that's what my VM is.

[steel aspen]

Xfce is good that's what I use as default lol

[spiral summit]

Because distro hopping isn‘t fun i‘ve been there

[sick lance]

However Kali isn't suitable for daily driving as a host.

[steel aspen]

Not particularly. I've noticed that lol.

I got Ubuntu too but haven't properly used it

I did years and years ago

[spiral summit]

Ubuntu is good for daily that’s for sure

[sick lance]

I used Ubuntu during the ME years.

[steel aspen]

I wanna try Parrot and Fedora one day. I've heard good things.

Tf is xubuntu?

[spiral summit]

I have had no problems with parrot even doing pentesting

It‘s the better alternative for kali

For me personally

[steel aspen]

Oh yeah I should try it

[sick lance]

I used Parrot in a vm, didn't like it, just kali with a flavour.

I used EndevourOS for a full 5 hours, and decided I'll never like Arch.

[steel aspen]

I don't know why Kali gets so much slack lol

I can't stand Arch just for the sake of 80% of the users

Arch BTW

Cool

No one asked 😎

[spiral summit]

Last time i had kali the installer was completely fucked up i couldn’t install anything. Since then i am not installing kali no more

[steel aspen]

Maybe it's more 20%

I think that's the trouble I'm having with my VM lol

[spiral summit]

Ahahha it has a kind of coolness in it tho

[steel aspen]

Yeah seems like a pain

[worn thorn]

How can I try to dualboot veracrypted windows and garuda? I don't have a machine laying around with two drives.

[spiral summit]

When you boot up garuda

[steel aspen]

What is Arch default package manager? Pacman? Apt?

[spiral summit]

You can select your disk where windows is installed and you can select the unused data for garuda

[steel aspen]

Apt is ezpz

[spiral summit]

Pacman

[steel aspen]

Ah I've tried pacman didn't like it

[worn thorn]

You misundestood me. I used garuda before but with plain old bitlocked windows.

[spiral summit]

Sudo pacman -S to install if i remember right

[spiral summit]

Ohh veracrypted

sorry can‘t help you there

[spiral summit]

To be honest you must do it to like it

[steel aspen]

What is that?

[worn thorn]

yea. I'm also new to veracrypt but it's great do far.

[spiral summit]

Veracrypt it secure‘s your data

Very good program

[steel aspen]

Oh I probably should've guessed that lol

[worn thorn]

foss alternative

[steel aspen]

I was trying to think of the Linux encryption program I was using

It doesn't seem too bad

[spiral summit]

But if you got help with Linux i can help you there 🙂

I got more than 80% on thm for proof

[steel aspen]

That'd be good. I'm still learning quite a lot to do with it.

[spiral summit]

if you think i am saying shit

xd

[steel aspen]

Think I trust lol.

[worn thorn]

I have replaced most of closed sourced programs recently and cut ties with google.

[spiral summit]

Yeah sure because i was there where i learned linux too. Without help i would be doomed

[steel aspen]

I didn't realise how many different distro there were

[bold dawn]

you saying that personally makes you LESS trust worthy lol

[steel aspen]

I knew there were a ton but that's an understatement lol

[spiral summit]

Open source is the way to go

[worn thorn]

true that

[steel aspen]

I need to stop Google

Need YouTube though unfortunately.

[spiral summit]

yea true but i don’t know how people really think

[worn thorn]

there are a few ways to still watch youtube

[spiral summit]

Maybe watch it from an device which you use daily?

[worn thorn]

piped for example

[bold dawn]

if you're worried about data collection, at least 50% of the websites you visit use Google's data analytics, which has a whole section including giving that data to Google to sell

read through it all yesterday

[steel aspen]

Vpn will work ig

[calm spear]

yo

eveyone

[spiral summit]

What you mean by that?

[steel aspen]

Yeah that's wrong. Should be illegal.

[bold dawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steel aspen]

Encrypt the traffic mainly.