general

[loud marlin]

do it

just check for temp things and fumes

i think it need closed system

[echo steeple]

germany. the paragraph that says you cannot install tools that "can be used to prepare or help you breaking into computer systems" is usually referred to as the "hacker paragraph"

[wintry sluice]

so germany has no pentesters

ooft

[boreal scarab]

Oh then f that

Temp I'm good

[loud marlin]

check it. i might be wrong

[boreal scarab]

Enclosed no

[boreal scarab]

Inland doesn't tell me much

[loud marlin]

there is more filament that need enclosed system than one does not

[boreal scarab]

Clear TPU...

Does TPU need to be enclosed?

[loud marlin]

think not

[echo steeple]

we do. and these laws are usually being overlooked for pen testers, but we had a story 3 years ago where a pentester got into trouble for reporting a security hole in an application of a big political party. luckily, the chaos computer club backed her up and the political party quickly did the "whoopsie doopsie, my bad"

[boreal scarab]

Fuck

[loud marlin]

https://medium.com/@sunludfilament/the-complete-guide-to-printing-with-silk-pla-filament-782323041775

[boreal scarab]

Picked up tough military brown PLA

And bronze

[loud marlin]

that is nice

[echo steeple]

https://netzpolitik-org.translate.goog/2021/cdu-connect-ermittlungsverfahren-gegen-sicherheitsforscherin-lilith-wittmann-eingestellt/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

here is an article if you are interested in the story. that whole thing was so fucked up.

[wintry sluice]

ftw you've been learning german for two weeks and some of the words in a german article actually mean something 🥹

[echo steeple]

ah sorry. i thought i added google translate to translate it into english

[wintry sluice]

no need to apologise.
tis a good feeling

[echo steeple]

fixed the link, now it should translate into english, i hope.

[viscid hill]

Anyone know what this is, I get it when copying stuff from my terminal to cyberchef, its not \n or new line

[wintry sluice]

carriage return?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_return#Computers

[viscid hill]

probably yeah, thanks!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wintry sluice (current: #349 - 13)

[shell nova]

yeah it's \r

[shut hawk]

rrrrr

[shell nova]

yarrrrrr

[crude stump]

Grrrrr

[lament tendon]

More like
r

Wonder who‘ll get that.

[ashen wadi]

No need to count calorie,just cut out sugar and watch your carbs. This is coming from someone who lifts weights since 2013. Also do cardio,your heart need pump 🫀

[shut hawk]

I need the calories, I'm severely underweight

I have booked a doctor's appointment to discuss it so I can get professional advice, but for now I want to keep track of until then

[valid mauve]

Aaaaaaah fuck me

[lament tendon]

Whaha

[mossy river]

Calorie Counter, iirc it's backed by the NHS

[ashen wadi]

So if you have problem gaining weight,drink gainer.

[wintry sluice]

the fitbit app has worked well for me.

[mossy river]

I would recommend against providing medical advice without:

• knowing anything about the person you are talking to
• asking for context first

[valid mauve]

I am very very miffed. Extremely so.

[mossy river]

Gainer should only be used with a balanced diet. The advice you are offering is horrible.

[valid mauve]

I'd love to know how they got access, tho.

[lament tendon]

• Being medically trained. (But maybe that‘s just my opinion).

[ashen wadi]

How is my advice horrible?

[mossy river]

You are telling someone to drink gainer which can cause adverse health problems when misused.

[ashen wadi]

My mates who cant get weight ate gainer,and it worked perfectly fine with them. No need to overcomplicate things.

[lament tendon]

Is that a persistent connection? Not just a crawler or port scanner?

[ashen wadi]

Its gainer dude,not bleach

[mossy river]

You are aware that all types of supplements can be misused... right?

[valid mauve]

Fuck if I know. I only just read a mail from Hetzner indicating that my server popped up on the BSIs radar for portscanning activity.

That mail is 5 days old.

[lament tendon]

Get portscanned upon.

Can you blacklist?

[valid mauve]

I got half a mind to just decom the server and buy a new one.

[lament tendon]

Right. Kritis or something.

[lament tendon]

So does this mean your server is getting scanned or is scanning?

[valid mauve]

Nah, that is my personal box.

[lament tendon]

Oh, makes sense.

[valid mauve]

Hetzner says that BSI says that my server has open portmapper ports.

[lament tendon]

So your server is scanning? Good luck then. 😔

[valid mauve]

I'm gonna nuke and pave.

The worst: I had wazuh set up to NOTIFY ME OF SHIT LIKE THIS.

Didn't notice the container dropped dead

[lament tendon]

Damn.

[valid mauve]

If I had like $200 over, I'd call Bella and ask for her expertise.

[lament tendon]

I‘ll come check for $199.

[valid mauve]

I hate to say it, I trust her expertise more than I trust yours. 😛

[lament tendon]

🥺

[valid mauve]

Awww

Now, lemme grab a pack of smokes, then it's time to see if my borgbackup worked.

Godfuckingdamn it...

.. wait. Fuck.

FUCK

[lament tendon]

I think Mac just got kidnapped.

[valid mauve]

No, I just realized I need to cycle all my ssh keys and stuff

Aaaaaarghhhhhhgh....

shoot me please

[wintry sluice]

bang

[lament tendon]

Got a spare bike, you can use it for a while.

[valid mauve]

groan

Bit, I'm gonna bite you.

/afk smokes

[wintry sluice]

perhaps bit likes that kinda thing

[loud marlin]

ello mac

[sand trench]

[valid mauve]

hi ralex, can't talk, got server to de-compromise and nicotine level to top up

hi shadow!

[loud marlin]

fair fair 🙂

[wintry sluice]

that was a quick smoke. did you eat it?

[sand trench]

could not find the gif shadow wanted to insert for eating ciggarttes here

[lament tendon]

Me: wants to go home.
Cool automated scanning tool: 😴

Luckily I learned that there is a 668 to 46107 chance that I am scanning a QNX system instead of a Linux one.

[valid mauve]

crunchcrunchcrunch "... Mo?"

[coarse moth]

In tryhackme is there any integrated way to change the language?

[mossy river]

Other than using your browser’s default translation, not that I know of.

[loud marlin]

jabba... is there limit of point's restore when ||someone|| miss the day and lose it? 🙂

[sand trench]

think jabba answered that yesterday and the answer was yes but can't give exact details

[loud marlin]

ahaa

[mossy river]

Depends on a lot of various factors. Your best bet is just to email support

[loud marlin]

ok... hope is not 3rd time 😦

[mossy river]

I wrote the rules of resetting streaks, I don't discuss them because I don't want people to try and abuse support's kindness

[loud marlin]

understandable...

[sand trench]

tries very very very very hard to not even have to contact support to reset streak

[wintry sluice]

time to brute-force the rule definitions

[loud marlin]

@boreal scarab i freaking hate PETG...

[dense quarry]

Hello, is there anyone who finish SOC lvl 1 in THM ?

[sand trench]

yes quite a few people

what is your question about it svoby??

[hasty shard]

Shadow the abaorber

Absorber

[dense quarry]

Benign Task 2 last question

[hasty shard]

Shadow the absorber

[dense quarry]

What is the URL that the infected host connected to?

[mossy river]

#soc-level-1-path

[dense quarry]

https://controlc.com/548ab556 i find this one

and it not working

[mossy river]

^ @dense quarry

[hasty shard]

@sand trench wassup

[dense quarry]

Thanks ❤️

[coarse moth]

Do you recommend any platform to learn programming languages? I like the learning methodology of tryhackme in the sense that it is quite practical. They also challenge you on each topic, however I do not know of a similar platform that helps me increase my knowledge in languages such as python, javascript, php

[mossy river]

Check pins #programming

[coarse moth]

Brilliant, just what I was looking for, thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #6 - 1190)

[ornate kindle]

hi

anyone pro hacker here

[mossy river]

Meee

[wintry sluice]

jared is the best hacker here

[sick lance]

Me 3

[ornate kindle]

this is random but

that missing mh370 plane, can hacking work to find it

[cedar scaffold]

[wintry sluice]

not sure even jared can hack the space time continuum

[cedar scaffold]

even Jared has limits

[mossy river]

If you want a technical response - yes.
But it's not what you would call hacking...

[ornate kindle]

😮

what is it called?

[mossy river]

OSINT.

[ornate kindle]

oh

[mossy river]

This has been used many times in the past to try to find lost people, it would be more difficult but you can try and use it to find a missing plane.
Only problem is that it relies on the general public to work together.

[sand trench]

blegh blagh blugh blygh

[ornate kindle]

the plane been missing for 10 years now

[mossy river]

I expect you were anticipating a response like "Yes, you can hack the GPS on the plane to find it" but if it were as easy as that, it would have been found by now.

[wintry sluice]

I now feel old

[hasty shard]

Blueh bleh bleh bluhwh

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: xyzsm#0 has been banned.

[ornate kindle]

i thought like if they could hack the air traffic control device that was tracking the plane until it disappeared from radar

[sick lance]

Didn't they find that plane?

[ornate kindle]

nope

[mossy river]

Unless someone is purposely not releasing that information to the public, then no.
You can't really fabricate something that doesn't exist and if someone is keeping that information hidden, they are trying really hard to.

[ornate kindle]

that sucks

[wintry sluice]

even if you had the info, ocean currents mean the wreckage could be anywhere over 1000s of square miles

[mossy river]

I could be wrong this response is purely formulated from my understanding.

[cedar scaffold]

ocean big, plane smol

[ornate kindle]

true

[wintry sluice]

and water absorbs radio waves rather well

[ornate kindle]

i think they are going to do another search for the plane

[sick lance]

It was abducted by a UFO, then the military shot the UFO down, which brought the plane down.

This is a joke, it was the plot for the latest X-files episode I watched.

[cedar scaffold]

but where?!

[sick lance]

Over the ocean.

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rekt-stewie-family-guy-gif-11461913

[ornate kindle]

the Pilot has a YouTube channel too

[wintry sluice]

UFO was stealing oil/fuel.
you bet they shot it down.

[sick lance]

They use cold fusion, no need for it.

[loud marlin]

cant get proper temp, retraction or almost any shit... prints looks like crap =/

[sick lance]

Thr pilot of the plane that can't be found?

[wintry sluice]

perhaps the pilot of the plane doing the next saerch?

[ornate kindle]

yeah

he uploaded like a few months before it went missing

[wintry sluice]

ah

[buoyant tree]

ooo I remember that episode

the one in which a guy was trying to reach mulder

and trying to get there via plane

but got abducted mid way

[sick lance]

Attempted.

[ornate kindle]

Do you think someone could repeat what D.B Cooper did when he hijacked a plane and got away

[buoyant tree]

yea, good episode

[wintry sluice]

makes me think of that episode of star trek voyager.
where they find a truck floating in space.
then find a load of people, including amelia earheart.

[buoyant tree]

question what's D.B cooper

[ornate kindle]

you mean who

[buoyant tree]

voyager was nice

[sand trench]

reminds shadow of the episdode where they find voyager 1

[naive violet]

We don't allow discussion of illegal activity here

[wintry sluice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper

[buoyant tree]

oh dat guy

[ornate kindle]

oh

[wintry sluice]

see also: https://xkcd.com/1400/

xkcd: D.B. Cooper

'Why on Earth would someone commit air piracy just to finance a terrible movie decades later?' 'People are very strange these days.'

[buoyant tree]

...

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[loud marlin]

brake a leg...

[boreal scarab]

[stuck tangle]

My Gobuster scan is taking a very long time. I'm in pain

[sand trench]

cries in no package yet

[cedar scaffold]

[rapid merlin]

Just tell it to go faster

[stuck tangle]

True, didn't think of that

[past sparrow]

Stop it and start ir again

[rapid merlin]

Add threading if you do

[sick lance]

👀

[lament tendon]

Wait quicker.

[brittle dune]

I just saw a guy with 1047 streak what the hell

[sand trench]

could almost be shadow

[sick lance]

Was it Steven*

[brittle dune]

don't remember, had a black male as pfp

[sick lance]

2 days ago Steven posted a screenshot wth a streak of 1057.

[brittle dune]

upshawsm, I found it xD

[brittle dune]

that's insane

[sick lance]

Yeah, that's Steven.

[sand trench]

less impressive:

[sick lance]

Even less impressive.

[sand trench]

well your rank is higher

[sick lance]

Small win?

[cedar scaffold]

I am smol

[sand trench]

no... it big win scrubz

big win

[weak plaza]

How's entry lvl jobs for cybersec.. I'm did some thm rooms , ik some basic networking, pentest , python.
What kinda job can I get as a fresher??

[rapid merlin]

Guys, I just joined thm and I’m too 1%

Jelly?

If you become #1 do you get given the company?

[sick lance]

You'd need to be really lucky and network to get an entry level position.

[sick lance]

You get 0Days title.

[rapid merlin]

As the worlds best hacker?

https://tenor.com/view/ready-im-ready-running-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4184916

Damn, no embeds

[sick lance]

No verification, no embeds.

[weak plaza]

Why soo.. am i less qualified?? I would like to land up in red team kinda thing

[rapid merlin]

That’s verifieist

I’m offended

[sick lance]

Experience and certs are golden in this industry.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it won't be easy.

[rapid merlin]

You will rarely start at red

Usually blue as an analyst then you move to red

[shut hawk]

Add networking (social) to that list

[rapid merlin]

Hiss

[sick lance]

Again, it's not impossible to end up on red via networking.

I had the chance.

[rapid merlin]

Yeah, several companies have those

I’ve been to 2 and both have had a few

[sick lance]

And it came from this server. 👀

[rapid merlin]

Do you mean the jobs or the people?

[sick lance]

I had the opportunity of a pentest job from somebody in this server.

[rapid merlin]

Which company if you don’t mind me asking?

[weak plaza]

Oke so any suggestion on how can I start.. any particular path I need to follow to make things come in line?? Any certifications for beginner lvl??

[rapid merlin]

Mine was applying and getting rejected till it worked and someone gave me a chance

Took ages tho

[sick lance]

I'd rather not.

[rapid merlin]

Understandable

[sick lance]

The Org and user will be anonymous

[rapid merlin]

But yeah

Mine wasn’t through networking

Being an analyst first did help

[sick lance]

Many certs are expensive, you can get free cert from IC2.

[rapid merlin]

And allows covering the cissp requirement if I choose to one day

[sick lance]

However being blue first will massively help out being red.

[rapid merlin]

It’s the same coin

Just opposite sides, them looking different is irrelevant

[stuck tangle]

Thanks.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lament tendon (current: #35 - 210)

[shut hawk]

Ditto, and was fortunate enough to do it

[rapid merlin]

Without the pfp I wouldn’t have noticed your colour changed

[sick lance]

It's a nice shade of green.

[weak plaza]

Sure bruh... Any other skills I need to focus on coz I'm learning offensive pentest now and I see it'll not work as fresher.. any other things I should learn??

[rapid merlin]

I’m partially blind

Orange was cooler imho

[sick lance]

I wonder what other roles will change, Maybe yours Mikey?

Verify

[hallow cipher]

Are certs from secops getting any recognition or they are just in dark?

[rapid merlin]

But then who else would shit post so well

[rapid merlin]

Hope I didn’t offend you btw @shut hawk was just making a joke

[sick lance]

Look around at positions around you and see if they have them as wish.

[shut hawk]

Lol no offense taken

I'm not bothered about my colour

[valid mauve]

Wahahahaha. I love how Wazuhs dashboard says that Dark Mode is only for very advanced users.

[shut hawk]

(but I do like this shade 😛)

[hallow cipher]

Nah, they still be crying for that CEH

[lament tendon]

Free for a $50 annual maintenance fee*

[sick lance]

So, not you?

[rapid merlin]

I can’t react to messages ):

[valid mauve]

Shush 😛

[sick lance]

Yeah, but you can get the cert without AFAIK.

[shut hawk]

Verify 😉

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Mar 11, 2024, 7:15 PM

[lament tendon]

Does it not expire?

[rapid merlin]

Maybe some day

[sick lance]

After the year of the cert yeah.

But most poeple I know just have it for the year.

[lament tendon]

I see.

[hallow cipher]

IIRC they renew if you have that credit thing on isc2

Like cissp ig

[uncut cove]

isc2 points are a great motivator, but for cissp and further they have different types, and a lot of them to collect

[golden timber]

cc is in person test too

just want to mention you cannot do it remotely

[hallow cipher]

I see

[uncut cove]

but isc2 activities are really fun, so I strongly recommend joining

[hallow cipher]

CC is very much theory based IMO

[uncut cove]

They are improving it

[tulip drum]

hey guys, where can I ask for help regarding matters relating to career paths

[uncut cove]

because it really lacked practical stems

[sick lance]

#cyber-and-careers is a good channel.

[hallow cipher]

I failed mine when I took it
Went without any preparation

[tulip drum]

thank you

[sick lance]

Lesson 101, always be prepared yo!

[uncut cove]

did you go for free?

[hallow cipher]

Yes

[uncut cove]

I took and passed it back when it was 50 bucks or somethin

feeling scammed....

[hallow cipher]

TBH i took it just cause it was free and I wanted a trip cause it had been a long time lol

Never took that seriously
Now I regret

[normal fable]

Oh yay. Chirp-next is in AUR.
Good afternoon hackers. 😁

[naive violet]

HT?

[loud marlin]

6x socks without 2nd pair of it =/

[normal fable]

Ye

Uv-5r

[naive violet]

Ah I got a 5(8)

[normal fable]

Moved so I want to get local repeaters programmed in.

[naive violet]

Big move?

[lament tendon]

Damn. You have not died yet.

[normal fable]

Doing it manually is kinda meh.

Bit!!!!

[sage wolf]

What are you guys talking about-

[naive violet]

Radio

[lament tendon]

How‘s life?

[normal fable]

Is good. Finally all moved and have some free time here and there. How about you?

[lament tendon]

Work.

Got a physical exam next weekend, competing in the CSCG and, well, normal job.

But it‘s fine since I am not bored for once. 😌

Where‘d you move to anyways?

[normal fable]

Moved in with my dad and step-mom. They like having me around to help out.

[lament tendon]

I see, I see.

I hope you like having them around as well. ;)

[normal fable]

It's very nice to spend time with them. 😊

[lament tendon]

Good stuff.

Less lonely as well, probably.

[hard hare]

in room Data Exfiltration are wrong some images

https://tryhackme.com/room/dataxexfilt

this: https://tryhackme-images.s3.amazonaws.com/user-uploads/5d617515c8cd8348d0b4e68f/room-content/c2b48bf0b212e640b259a3405c2391b1.png

[naive violet]

#room-bugs

[normal fable]

🐛 lol

James, you got your license right? Just seeing if I'm remembering right.

[naive violet]

Yeah only foundation but they recently increased the privileges

[normal fable]

Nice!

[naive violet]

So I get more bands, construction, 25w, and a few more bits

Looking at the step up soon

[normal fable]

I'm going to step up my license here soon too I think.

[naive violet]

Honestly it's easier here because you don't have to be on an open register etc

[rapid merlin]

License only covers transmitting or receiving also?

Not sure how receiving would be enforced tho

[naive violet]

Recieving is regulated but unenforced, you're fine to listen on broadcast or ham bands here for sure though.

Transmitting is illegal without a license outside of things like PMR radios, or ISM band stuff but then you can't do telecoms

[rapid merlin]

Sounds fun

Made your own transmitter or using stock?

[naive violet]

Eventually I'll build one but using an off the shelf one atm, recieve is more interesting anyway

[rapid merlin]

Gotten anything cool?

[naive violet]

Satellites?

[rapid merlin]

I assume all encrypted?

[naive violet]

Nope.

[rapid merlin]

What sort of kit would you recommend?

Sounds like a cool way to spend a weekend

[naive violet]

Check the legality in your area

[rapid merlin]

Should be fine here

Uk

[naive violet]

Not fine to recieve anything not intended for you

[rapid merlin]

Yall cant help with my economy for school right? 😛

Nah yall dont have to

But its a pain in the ass

[lament tendon]

Economy, the subject?

[rapid merlin]

yeahh

[lament tendon]

YOUR economy?

[rapid merlin]

If you send me all your money it’ll make your personal economy easier to handle

xD

No the subject economy

Its just a pain

It is fun, but also a pain

Average total cost, total cost, marginal cost

blah blah blah

[buoyant tree]

sometimes it feels like this

[normal fable]

RF is highly regulated in UK?

[naive violet]

Not exactly, just they have legislation from 100 years ago still on the books for recieving unlicensed broadcasts etc

[rapid merlin]

Fucking knew it

WhAt iS RF

It’s worse when they say “new password can’t be old password”

[normal fable]

Rx isn't an issue at all in the US.

[buoyant tree]

radio frequency

[rapid merlin]

It’s like it’s mocking you

[rapid merlin]

ah thx

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @buoyant tree (current: #159 - 38)

[normal fable]

Transmitting is the only thing that'll get us in trouble here. I think there was once local laws about police scanners..

@rapid merlin Ticket: Computer Problem
Description: Don't work
🤣

[sage wolf]

b

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/itcrowd-reboot-gif-4770974

[normal fable]

Woes. 🤣

[lament tendon]

When I put ' it gives bug.

Respects if you get the reference.

[buoyant tree]

@sick lance congrats

[sick lance]

Thank you.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @buoyant tree (current: #156 - 39)

[naive violet]

Heh

[normal fable]

Have you tried ' or \`\*-%!?

[lament tendon]

One of you got it.

[normal fable]

Documented issue. Google is your friend. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[buoyant tree]

"There was a error in your SQL syntax"

[coarse moth]

for what is the Rep

[lament tendon]

For your ego.

Quite literally.

It's just a number that gets bigger.

Whaha

[loud marlin]

there is errors all the time in SQL 🙂

[buoyant tree]

true, also can you cut wood with your laser?

[loud marlin]

yes. depend of thicknes. but up to 6mm 3-5 pass with 60-80 power and 35 depth need 4-5 pass

and depend of type of wood

[rapid merlin]

Congrats!

[sick lance]

Thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @icy epoch (current: #406 - 11)

[loud marlin]

opa... new color

🙂

[rapid merlin]

New most active moderator???

[wild rose]

oh scrubs is blue eh.

[buoyant tree]

quite thin wood, hmm

[wild rose]

congratulations, hope you're being paid this time around.

[loud marlin]

well yea... can't cut 5cm wood for sure. i mean i can but will be crap lol

and i have galvo laser. so that will cut in angle not straight

[sand trench]

YAY soon scrubz can yell at shadow for skirting the rules

[loud marlin]

one more in line 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Is shadow amused with that?

[sand trench]

to be honest it might mean quicker responses to moderation issues shadow report

as scrubz is generally here and active while shadow is

[rapid merlin]

Its not only pinging Jared, but @scrubz too 😄

[loud marlin]

one more to blame for things 🙂

[sick lance]

Maybe not yell, just politely ask you mindful 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Can we ping you too from now Scrubz?

[sick lance]

I've never minded being pinged. 🙂

[rapid merlin]

But when someone tries to break the rules xd

[hasty palm]

i think i will have nighmares for a week after OWASP Top 10 - 2021

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

104ms

Client Ping

413ms

Mar 11, 2024, 8:34 PM

[sand trench]

oof thta is a high client ping

[rapid merlin]

is that so

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

112ms

Client Ping

239ms

Mar 11, 2024, 8:35 PM

[rapid merlin]

not low either

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

112ms

Client Ping

214ms

Mar 11, 2024, 8:35 PM

[loud marlin]

i think i bonked my linuz with some dumb things i try 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Maybe alex and I have the same isp 😛

[loud marlin]

#bot-commands ppl

[umbral bay]

Congratulations @sick lance with your new role! 🥳

[sand trench]

the colour change on scrubz is staggering

[loud marlin]

KPN =/

[rapid merlin]

Yup xd

[buoyant tree]

Scrubz should be red not blue

[loud marlin]

lol

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

101ms

Client Ping

344ms

Mar 11, 2024, 8:36 PM

[rapid merlin]

At least KPN is better than ziggo

[sick lance]

🫡 Thank you.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #4 - 1668)

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gif-5785321051025239919

[rapid merlin]

I agree, it looks wrong now

[loud marlin]

same crap, different package

[sharp citrus]

Pong!

API Latency

120ms

Client Ping

226ms

Mar 11, 2024, 8:37 PM

[rapid merlin]

Mhhh but then a little more crap

[sick lance]

Staggering? 🤔

[sand trench]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick lance]

Lol, I see.

[sand trench]

sometimes shadows word choices are whacky wonderfull thingies

[rapid merlin]

I like how shadows commuted to third person and cheese posts

Always reassuring

[sand trench]

yuup shadow in a nutshell

shadow is also sad their ultra portable mini computer shipment got delayed

should arrive tomorrow though

[loud marlin]

bad post, bad bad 😦

[sand trench]

unless bella steals it from the danish post office @chilly veldt

[loud marlin]

btw... what you buy ?

[rapid merlin]

You mean a physical pentest

[sand trench]

dragonbox pyra
carry case for it
256 GB micro sd card

[loud marlin]

kinda spice price 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Micro SD? Won’t normal PC usage burn that out quickly?

I’ve broken several by being too aggressive with data transfer

[loud marlin]

btw... one Q... for micro sd card there is adapter to turn in sd card slot/size... is there any micro sd "card" that have adapter (might on wire) that can stick other card bigger? if i explain correctly

[sick lance]

Yeah, you can get "adapters"

I have a USB one that has all the SD card sizes.

[loud marlin]

but not usb... the micro sd to other cards

[sick lance]

Yeah

I have one of them too, I just don't use it

[loud marlin]

can you find pls 🙂

[naive violet]

I've seen microSD largerer things

[crude stump]

Oh nice

Trial mod scrubz

[loud marlin]

yes... that...

[rapid merlin]

First time seeing one backwards

[sick lance]

I have one of those.

[loud marlin]

but can it support like usb drives and so?

[loud marlin]

that is ok. but i think something alike james show

but to have support for other card. alike multi card support over microsd as plugin in pc

[sick lance]

Yeah, that would be the better option.

[steel aspen]

Where can I learn about compatible computer hardware n WLANs with the 802.11 stuff

[sand trench]

time for the bi-yearly setup 2fa on all sites that let shadow do so time

[lapis estuary]

Introductory networking the question is where is the ver first place your computer would look to find the IP address of a domain?

I put Local Cache

[sand trench]

and nah the only micro sd card shadow has broken was because it got stuck in their raspberry pi

and snapped in half when shadow extracted it

[lapis estuary]

But it won’t be accepted. Any ideas?

[sick lance]

#room-help please 🙂

[clear jackal]

What specifically are you looking for? You can look up the standard and read it's docs

[steel aspen]

Just everything to do with WLANs

[clear jackal]

That's very broad

[steel aspen]

There seems to be so many

802.11 n other ones

[clear jackal]

Maybe just start with a base understanding of networking and read some of the standard

There's really no advice I can give when you keep the scope that wide

[steel aspen]

YouTube may have something i guess

[sick lance]

@rapid merlin can you please interact with community more before self promoting, thanks 🙂

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @grim wyvern (current: #2022 - 1)

[clear jackal]

I think you may struggle there as well, because in order to get good results you need to specify what you're looking for.

[chilly veldt]

Yo, poggies @sick lance congrats!

[sick lance]

Thank you!

[rapid merlin]

sure i need your support and when that happens I won't have any problems in Interact

[shut hawk]

congratz scrubz

[cedar scaffold]

[sick lance]

Thank you.

[cedar scaffold]

grats!

[chilly veldt]

I accidentally overslept my nap and slept for 6 hours instead😭😭

[clear jackal]

What do you need help with?

[chilly veldt]

Missed Maghrib, but now I can eat

[boreal scarab]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CJ7tsL47KRw?si=rlX7thbrfBUt0dvF

Glorious

@sick lance is a trial mod? Yooo congrats!

[devout palm]

Woooo

Scrubz!

It's nice to see you as a trial mod! Congratz! 🥳

[rapid merlin]

watch my videos and give me feedback i don't care about likes, comments or even views just feedback

[sick lance]

Thank you 😄

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @boreal scarab (current: #32 - 229)

[sick lance]

Thank you!

[devout palm]

You might consider not to get promoted to a mod due to the role's color hehe

[molten sky]

tf since when

[crude stump]

Not to long ago

4:22 to be exact

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-26311113

[normal fable]

Oh yay. Taxes done. 🥳

[rapid merlin]

@chat

[sand trench]

and tryhackme 2fa enabled

nice there is backup codes

[rapid merlin]

Wht

I men sup

[near hawk]

Did you not have 2fa enabled til now 👀

[rapid merlin]

Wht is that

[near hawk]

2 factor authentication

[rapid merlin]

Yo easy

How to do so

[sand trench]

it is like you have these 3 things
something you know
something you have
something you are

[rapid merlin]

It’s everything

Isn’t it

[sand trench]

go on tryhackme... then profile page... then password and security

there is a nice shiny green button to enable 2fa

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-kid-awkward-confused-gif-10267418

[sand trench]

it uses your phone as a thingy you have

where it generates a random 6 digit code every 30 seconds

that you will need to login

[rapid merlin]

Its otp💀

U trying to rob me

https://tenor.com/view/sean-kingston-somebody-call-911-gif-24211754

[sand trench]

yeah decided to not enable it until all the issues were worked out... now not heard anyone one complain about any issues for more then 3 months

this site is amazing: https://2fa.directory

[chilly veldt]

morning shadow

[near hawk]

Never heard anyone complain about 2fa on THM

[sand trench]

morning???

[near hawk]

Only complaints I see is theres no dark mode

[rapid merlin]

I wass just messing

[sand trench]

for some people at the start it failed to work and/or backup codes not working as intended
also people having trouble disabling it

[rapid merlin]

Tell me fr how to do it

[chilly veldt]

yeah... I accidentally wanted to take a nap, and then it turned into a 6 hour sleep :/

[rapid merlin]

👀

⏳

Tell

[rapid merlin]

Its asking to send a link

[sand trench]

???

[sharp citrus]

@rapid merlin

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Mar 11, 2024, 9:53 PM

[sand trench]

after that you can post pictures and links in here that will embed

[rapid merlin]

It started me teaching about hacking 👀

[sand trench]

yeah tryhackme will teach you hacking

though for really good stuffs you need to get info from a lot of differeing sources

[rapid merlin]

I may send u ss

[sand trench]

PLEASE NO DO NOT SEND DM:S TO SHADOW

[rapid merlin]

So i may want to share ss

[rapid merlin]

🧊

https://tenor.com/view/4gifs-funny-baby-baby-funny-shook-gif-16431908

[sand trench]

screenshots that don't include any private info can be shared here after verifying your tryhackme account

[rapid merlin]

Sir do need to verify my account thts the reason i want yr help

[sand trench]

the link in the bot message above tells you how

also shadow is just some random person

sharing the token with them would be bad

[rapid merlin]

Idk wass tht

Do i need to fill my real id n password

[rapid merlin]

As if u r warning me im in the right hands

[whole yew]

Shadow posted the docs link on how to verify. Follow those instructions.

[rapid merlin]

Hmm

https://tenor.com/view/aye-aye-captain-jim-holden-steven-strait-the-expanse-s506-gif-19851721

[sand trench]

thank you juun

[rapid merlin]

Is it only possible on pc

I’ll do it tomorrow

If my ac in danger ill leave this server?

[flat hamlet]

Hello guys quick question : Why does choosing the post exploit in metasploit and setting the Session to the right ID dont work, but running the post directly in meterpreter works ? Thanks !

[whole yew]

What? Your question doesn't make sense.

Read the directions, your question is answered in there.

[whole yew]

Is this for a THM room? #room-help

[rapid merlin]

Is verification possible through phone

[flat hamlet]

I already passed it, just was wondering the latter way

[sand trench]

yes assuming you can log in on tryhackme.com using your phone

[rapid merlin]

I haven’t logged in ever

In tht site

[sand trench]

guess you need to make an account then

[rapid merlin]

With same id or that could be different

[mossy river]

@crude stump this is what plat lobbies look for me rn

I am losing my voice which I why I am not talking much in this clip

[crude stump]

Gah damn

That’s stressful

[mossy river]

We literally pushed everyone we saw, which is why my loadout was stacked

[crude stump]

I always hate when zone is on a mountain

[mossy river]

Funnily enough, the start of that match iirc we almost got wiped. Shows you how easily a game can flip

[hollow nebula]

i wrote my first medium write-up today - or rather rewrote - you can't upload a pdf! i spent a long time making a pdf with watermarks and images and stuff 😿

[mossy river]

I find that most people we fight against rn aren’t as good as editing so when we pressure they run

[naive violet]

@rapid merlin this is the discord server for the tryhackme.com community

[bitter quiver]

I never play Fortnite on build anymore

Zero Build made it fun

[hollow nebula]

you never take me anywhere anymore

[bitter quiver]

Well you never get dressed up anymore

[hollow nebula]

here we go again

my father warned me

[bitter quiver]

Always with that stuff. Every time. "My father this, my father that."

I didn't marry your father!

[molten sky]

there were issues?

[molten sky]

same

[rapid merlin]

So wht

[molten sky]

same x2

[sand trench]

yeah there was... there no longer is

[molten sky]

huh. never knew.

[naive violet]

So you will not get very much out of being here without being a user of the site.
Verification requires you to be a registered user

[boreal scarab]

Beef stew or Mac n cheese?

[molten sky]

beef stew

i just made a sandwhich w some

[bitter quiver]

Mac n CHeese

[rapid merlin]

Do i have to login with the same is

[bitter quiver]

Mac n Cheese with buffalo chicken in it

[rapid merlin]

ID

[rapid merlin]

Yuk

[boreal scarab]

It's Irish Mac N Cheese, or Guinness Irish Beef Stew

[bitter quiver]

Ooo tough

[boreal scarab]

Exactly my thought, why I came here

[crude stump]

Irish mac n cheese sounds heavenly

[rapid merlin]

Fr

[boreal scarab]

No Guinness or any Irish alcohol in it

But it sounds good, has bacon!

[hollow nebula]

irish beef and guinness > shepherds pie

[boreal scarab]

Beef stew it is

[hollow nebula]

with the kerry gold

[crude stump]

Aw man if only they used beer cheese

[boreal scarab]

It's in a Guinness sauce

Oh that's for the stew

Mac n cheese has bacon, sausage, cheese sauce

[hollow nebula]

just the guiness and the tatyo meanies. we don't have the tayto man here and it's a sad development

[chilly veldt]

I am currently eating dinner

[boreal scarab]

I'm sipping on a double of Penelope neat waiting for my food

[chilly veldt]

I reheated some sesame chicken

[boreal scarab]

Noice

[chilly veldt]

it's 11:30pm and I accidentally slept 6 hours

[boreal scarab]

Just an extended nap, doesn't hurt

[chilly veldt]

I have to be up at 03:40 AM

[sand trench]

bonk stick???

waits for ninja james to come bursting in here due to that phrase

[rapid merlin]

Logged inn

[chilly veldt]

I literally just woke up

but yeah, once I am finished with dinner, I am going back to sleep

[sand trench]

shadow should probably try to get to bed early too

so that they can snipe their package when it arrives

the one that got stuck in denmark

stupid UPS

[buoyant tree]

the gaming device

?

[sand trench]

yuups

[buoyant tree]

what was name? pythoga...

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/newspaper-gif-18150652

[sand trench]

dragonbox pyra

[buoyant tree]

oh k

[sand trench]

its predecestor was called openpandora

[rapid merlin]

Thanks Shadow

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #4 - 1669)

[boreal scarab]

Whiskey and spicy do not mix

[rapid merlin]

Alt f4

[boreal scarab]

@chilly veldt

[lament mantle]

Exercism and The Odin Project are commonly recommended for training developers.

[hasty palm]

im native Estonian, IT and cyber-security iv only known in English, some of the words in Estonian what are it related are so bizarre , i think if u where to say too many of them in 1 sentence u can summon demons. xD

[sand trench]

meep moops time for sleep sloops to the beep boops for shadow whadow

[shell nova]

Let's stick with English then 😉

[boreal scarab]

I keep forgetting it's an hour ahead... was about to say, you're an hour early

How ya doing @shell nova ?

[shell nova]

going to bed now 🙂

[bitter quiver]

But I thought daemons are part of Linux life

[sand trench]

shadow is early though... it only 00:19 here... so shadow is aiming for early to get their dragonbox pyra

[bitter quiver]

[boreal scarab]

Ahhh

[buoyant tree]

think I broke cmd prompt somehow

[hasty palm]

01:20

[languid vine]

Please guys recommend me some legit books for beginning hacking training

Or programming languages i need before starting hacking training?

[shell nova]

check the #bookclub, also humble bundle sometimes does infosec bundles

[shell nova]

learn the basics of one language and understand how programs work, the rest is syntax

[boreal scarab]

@blazing granite

[bitter mulch]

@languid vineI just started out and am reading "Practical Social Engineering" by Joe Gray. Great so far

[shell nova]

sigh

[bitter quiver]

Whiskey is just water for people with life experience

[cedar scaffold]

[rapid merlin]

Boo

[hasty palm]

i prefer gin tonic

[bitter mulch]

tequila 4 me

[bitter quiver]

Whiskey calmed my nerves, as did rum. Tequila gives me energy

Then there were Vegas bombs

Crown + redbull

Too old for that now, but that was a combo I don't recommend. Any "bomb" drink actually I don't

Not good for the heart

Glad I'm alive

WHen you are in your 20s you think you are invincible

[rapid merlin]

If I ever find whisky calming my nerves I’ll have to throw away the bottle

[rapid merlin]

I had a nasty bomb shot, was just tequila, whisky, rum and vodka mixed into a shot glass

[ashen wadi]

How do you even function with so much alco in your body 😐

[rapid merlin]

I think it was more of a “get me pissed quickly” type of shot

[bitter quiver]

To be fair I don't drink anymore. Optional.

I never had it addiction wise. I just knew what had positive effects on me and I run high strung because I can't stop tracking everything

Mind goes too fast

Whiskey would slow it down

Same reason I use mushroom coffee

Which is far healthier

[uncut cove]

web fundamentals done

yeee

[hasty palm]

gz

[blazing granite]

Indeed they don't spicy fuel the alcohol and doesn't taste good

@boreal scarab spicy food contains capsaicin, this react with the alcohol creating a burning sensation, that's why is recommend a lower alcohol beverage with spicy food, some whites even beers can go well with spicy dishies

[keen gull]

Can someone help me out

[normal fable]

Ask your question. 😉

[blazing granite]

he already did 😂

[sharp citrus]

<#651923438524432404>

Rule 5 - No Cheating

Cheating of any form is not allowed. This is not limited to asking for help with assessed schoolwork or exams.

TryHackMe Rules · Mar 12, 2024, 12:04 AM

[keen gull]

Lol

[normal fable]

Dang it. I didn't even get time to make my popcorn. 🤣

[mossy river]

They are assessing your ability, not ours.

[blazing granite]

we don't help with exams, homework, etc

[normal fable]

j/k btw. I'm just being an ass. 😉

[keen gull]

But it's an exam to go into a class that teaches you the exact things they are quizzing you on 😭

[mossy river]

They probably teach it on a much more advanced level, which requires at least a baseline understanding or the ability to quickly learn the skills required on your own.

[keen gull]

It said it was for beginners

[mossy river]

Have you tried addressing this with the person running the class?

[keen gull]

Um, would it be possible to give a hint on what to do? There's nothing much I can go off on with the meta data I have

[mossy river]

No.

[keen gull]

No

[blazing granite]

Maybe you should study a bit more before the exam 😉

[keen gull]

It's just one question, I managed to do the others

[mossy river]

Sorry, no exceptions.

[keen gull]

Study whatttt, I didn't even start the class yet

[mossy river]

https://tryhackme.com/

[keen gull]

Or get any info to study

https://tenor.com/view/panda-flip-desk-freak-out-mad-gif-15503485

[silk raptor]

When connected to the THM network through openvpn, is it possible for other users to communicate with my computer? Or is everything completely isolated?

[mossy river]

https://tryhackme.com/resources/blog/tryhackmes-vpn-explained

You should be using a Virtual Machine which is better security-wise anyway.

[languid vine]

Thanks mate

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @bitter mulch (current: #2022 - 1)

[languid vine]

Thank bro

[bitter mulch]

np

[bitter quiver]

Liking your name

[languid vine]

[bitter quiver]

Who you main

And what branch

[normal fable]

Should start a thm wt clan. 🤣

[bitter quiver]

I'm down

Lol

[noble knoll]

Anybody knows whats up with the capstone challenge flag confirmation?

https://imgur.com/a/FcVkhes

[chilly veldt]

Someone's username might be breaking the file

[coarse moth]

Which language do you think is most important for a pentester, python or javascript?

[molten sky]

context matters

[solemn beacon]

javascript

[warm mulch]

Python

[normal fable]

A good grasp of all language formats is important imo. You don't have to understand everything.. but be able to look up resources and identify which language you're looking at. Just my opinion though. And yes. Context really matters.

[chilly veldt]

That feeling when you can't sleep after eating

[gentle adder]

Hi everyone! can anyone explain me what is the pupose of "strings" command in linux

[chilly veldt]

It's to give you all the readable text in a file

[gentle adder]

and base64

[chilly veldt]

The command or text?

[gentle adder]

command

[chilly veldt]

Google it

[gentle adder]

ok

i thought it would be helpfull to ask an experienced person

😁

[chilly veldt]

Sometimes you'll get an answer other times you'll have to research yourself

[gentle adder]

ok thanks

[fresh cobalt]

ChatGPT helped me understanding principles, I mean this question is a perfect example where an ai model in 2024 can help you . Wait a bit before giving all your hope on GPT but for this kind of question, yeah go for it it’s a no brainer. It works

[rapid merlin]

I've been seeing people with animated pfp's. Some people have recommended switching the gif filetype to png and then trying to upload, but I havn't found much luck with that. Could I have some help with this, if it is even possible?

[gentle adder]

yep you are right i asked this to chatgpt but i ask questions to everyone because may be someone will give me a keypoint that i still could not get from anywhere

[flint sluice]

On the THM website?

If that's what you're referring to; you used to be able to upload animated profile pictures by default but it was taken away over a year ago. If you still have an animated one up there, it will stay that way unless they make a change and remove them sometime in the future. Otherwise, you're out of luck, I'm afraid.

[chilly veldt]

There has been vulns to upload it with too before, but I am not sure if they have fixed them with the rework of the site

[fresh cobalt]

If you need a movie insight of a « kind of » definition of NTLM authentication , check this funny part https://youtu.be/pWS8Mg-JWSg?si=OqbLjA_uAkOXiGQj

[rapid merlin]

what a shame. Thanks for the help

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @flint sluice (current: #55 - 119)

[rapid merlin]

👍

[flint sluice]

No worries bud :)

[rapid merlin]

also im seeing the words "mentorship" and "mentors" getting thrown around in various cybersecurity discord servers. Is that something you can ask people for, on lets say discord, or is that something you can achieve through a verified service

I'm still new to the field, so thanks for the patience

[past sparrow]

Why not? Its just asking someone more experienced to teach you

Its people's own initiative, nothing official

[rapid merlin]

does this discord server have a place I can make a request/ask?

cause i dont want to just start randomly dm'ing ppl

[past sparrow]

Probably in intros if anyone bothers reading them

[past sparrow]

Yeah don't do that, I block people who dm me like that 🙈

[graceful thistle]

Not really, there are several channels dedicated to specific topics where you can ask something related and you could try to find a small group of people to study together for example. But if you are looking for a tutoring style service, we don't have that

yeah dont randomly DM 🙂 thats in our rules also (you have to ask someone if its OK to DM them before you do)

[rapid merlin]

i see

alright, thanks 🙏

[past sparrow]

Sad reality is that most people who are experienced in field also don't have that much free time to dedicate themselves to tutoring

[rapid merlin]

i would assume so

out there saving the world 🦾

[cedar island]

Do you have a soft copy of that?

[past sparrow]

I already get to tutor junior employees at my company, outside working hours I want to turn my brain off about IT stuff 😄

[rapid merlin]

lmao

[graceful thistle]

If you are asking them for a copy, please buy the book legitimately

[vast zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-star-wars-hello-hello-there-gif-21994420

[past sparrow]

So, anyone participating on Lockedshields this year?

[rapid merlin]

whos it open to?

[past sparrow]

Elaborate your question?

[cedar island]

Ok

[rapid merlin]

Are there any restrictions based on age, position, etc?

from participating

[past sparrow]

Most accurate answer would be citizens of NATO countries, but obviously not anyone can join, its invite only event

[rapid merlin]

ah

[past sparrow]

Every nato country military makes a cyber team and they compete against each other against active red team

In war-like situation

[rapid merlin]

sounds cool

are you participating perhaps?

[past sparrow]

Yeah, I participated last year as well, it really is cool

Was wondering if I may run into participants of other teams in communities like this

[rapid merlin]

sick

well, good luck and have fun man

[past sparrow]

Each team is usually 50-100 people

[past sparrow]

I certainly will, thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @edgy umbra (current: #2022 - 1)

[lavish shell]

Curious, how you managed to receive said invitation. Defcon or similar type competitions?

[past sparrow]

I got my first one through employment and now second one due to showing I am reliable, usually teams circulate and first time here is like a trial, if you pass it, you get invited again and it will extend to other events as well, but quickest way would be to be in active military service in cyber side

Because they also finance and organize those events

Here attending that is enough street credit that you can get employed just for having attended it

[lavish shell]

Hmm....I see

[rapid merlin]

You guys recommend Defcon?

been putting off the idea for a while, but had some buddies ask if i wanted to go

[past sparrow]

Never been there, but if you can, yes, go

[lavish shell]

If you impress them at Defcon they may reach out to you after the tournament is over. From there, who knows what'll happen

[rapid merlin]

ah

[uncut cove]

does anyone find the biba model funny?

the name

[rapid merlin]

lol

was that the principle of privilege or something else

like the one where you either cant go up or down

yeah funny name, can imagine saying that during an interview

[uncut cove]

yeah something like "which security model would you implement in a commercial enterprise?"
hummm I like biba and pasta

[hasty palm]

good morning

[sick lance]

Good morning!

[past sparrow]

Good morning

Do you attend LS @hasty palm

[hasty palm]

its not easy to find a soc analyst work, most job ads want 1 person dev team, based on the list.

what is LS ?

[past sparrow]

Locked Shields but I already assume no

You can google it

[hasty palm]

im a beginner in cyber-security

ls that looks fun,

im propobly too noob for that tho

[past sparrow]

Ah okay

[past sparrow]

Might be hard to get soc analyst job then, though you could try telia or smit, they have something in that level

[rapid merlin]

Guten morgen

[hasty palm]

noone uses voice chat in this discord 😦

[rapid merlin]

Not really

People tend to use it as a place to ask questions or discuss the platform

[past sparrow]

I dislike voice chats, I only go there if I have organized a gaming session

Or meeting

otherwise text will do, I like having somekind of footprint to the conversations I have had so I can refer back to them

[hasty palm]

iv been using voice thats from ...2007

[past sparrow]

Good old skype / ventrillo / teamspeak days

[hasty palm]

ventrillo, teamspeaks, etc

i blame Eve-Online

[past sparrow]

being in work meeting while chilling in discord - does it mean I am getting paid for being on discord 🤔

[rapid merlin]

A server where lots of people use vc is OwlSec

[past sparrow]

Though my most simple reason to not like VCs is just not like using earphones

I play music through speakers when I am active 😎

[rapid merlin]

Do earphones/headphones bother you?

[sick lance]

It used to be more popular, but now it's not used as much.

[past sparrow]

Yes, they make me feel boxed in / plugged to the computer

[hasty palm]

My goal in cyber security is to get work on this field, currently in construction job. goal is to study it long enough so i can get entry level job.

[rapid merlin]

I feel you

[past sparrow]

even if they are wireless, I don't like the idea of something attached to me

[rapid merlin]

I enjoy them as they help me feel focused, so I used closed back ones too

[past sparrow]

Good luck, its not easy if you are just starting out with computers, I recommend learning everything you can about computers as you can

[hasty palm]

oh iv been learning programming 7-8 months now

[past sparrow]

yeah, I get to be focused when I can be attentive of my surroundings

[past sparrow]

What language?

[hasty palm]

python, c# and some javascript

mostly python

[past sparrow]

Yikes

[rapid merlin]

Any projects on your github?

[sick lance]

Why yikes?

[past sparrow]

Bad starting languages, they cause unnecessary difficulty in grasping what computer actually does

[rapid merlin]

I don't think that's true at all....

[past sparrow]

well, different schools of thoughts

[hasty palm]

portfolio site, that is mostly placeholders im trying to add chatbot to it, but that is work in progress (site itself is live), 2 games that are not fully done but working (not in github),

[sick lance]

If you grasp the fundementals of the code, you can apply it anywhere.

Which language would you suggest to grasp what a computer actually does?

[past sparrow]

C

[rapid merlin]

Python is good, lots of libs and easy syntax. Code methodolgy is pretty much universal.

[hasty palm]

Python is one of the easyest languages to start

[past sparrow]

Easy does not necessarily mean good

[rapid merlin]

I mean, good in what way?

Python is great for handling data albeit it is "slow"

[sick lance]

C is good for that yeah,

But as the user said, Python is easier, and does the job.

[past sparrow]

I would do C first and once you are comfortable with that, go to Python, then you have a good foundation and using those libraries is no issue of unknown to you

[rapid merlin]

C as a first language would just blow your mind

[past sparrow]

In university our cybersecurity courses all start with C on first semester 🙂

[rapid merlin]

And I bet the code is a mess...

[sick lance]

That depends on the academic institute.

[past sparrow]

Absolutely not, they are not asked to code something advanced, they just get to learn foundation of programming

[pure kernel]

wait c ?/

[past sparrow]

C

[sick lance]

Many choose Python as an introductory language to coding.

[pure kernel]

its like plain English with logic

[rapid merlin]

They should learn brainfuck first imo

Best starter language

[pure kernel]

[past sparrow]

that's like learning cooking by starting with ready to go meals

[sick lance]

For obfuscation, sure.

[sick lance]

Rather than having no experience and trying to cook a roast dinner, such as C?

[rapid merlin]

What's the other one that just has abbreviations of Lol and lmao?

[pure kernel]

[past sparrow]

I wonder where does such assumption come that you need to make something fancy with learning, learn to make a sandwich in C not whole 7 course dinner

[rapid merlin]

But but

[hasty palm]

best on my search top 5 cybersecurity languages are -> python -> java -> C++ -> C# -> Ruby on Rails

from most to least useful

[rapid merlin]

C is memory unsafe

😭

[hasty palm]

based*

[sick lance]

Not everybody can learn at the same rate.

[rapid merlin]

;-;

They should have taught you rust buddy.

[pure kernel]

not everyone have autism like us

[boreal gull]

Agree!!!!

[sick lance]

I only learned C to understand Malware better.

[past sparrow]

I love Rust

[sick lance]

And write.

[rapid merlin]

Ohhh you made rustscan

Got a quick question

[past sparrow]

and thats a way to go

[boreal gull]

yes i do like rust a little

[rapid merlin]

Last time I used it, it was pretty "loud"

[past sparrow]

learn C to understand debugging

honestly, learn C and you can do python, learn python and you can't do C

[rapid merlin]

Have you kept it updated?

[past sparrow]

maybe let me phrase it this way, python is indeed yes useful in cybersecurity, BUT it is not good for learning cybersecurity itself, with C you learn computer itself as well and that enables you to learn what you are actually aiming to protect in this field

[rapid merlin]

You're just learning about memory

[past sparrow]

Python however is used to simplify tedious jobs in most cases and write quick scripts and tools to automate things

[past sparrow]

Until you get your first malware sample and you don't know what to do with it

[rapid merlin]

You may never touch a malware sample

[past sparrow]

May not, but you probably will if you advance in the field

[rapid merlin]

Isn't that what the analysts are for

[past sparrow]

I thought he wanted to go to work in SOC

that is analysts mostly

[pure kernel]

Did anyone saw the blog about the new Bluetooth exploit ??

[rapid merlin]

I just think that you can learn any language and the skills translate

[wintry sluice]

malware analysis seems kinda advanced,
not the sort of thing someone wanting to go work in an SOC will be asked to do.
that seems like the kinda thing you send up the chain.

[rapid merlin]

C may be more lower level

And yes, what rswallen said

It's more specialised

[past sparrow]

Level 1 probably won't, but most SOCs have also L2 and L3

And I can assure you they will deal with it

[rapid merlin]

So @past sparrow if you could recommend a first language to anyone, it's C?

[wintry sluice]

and people who are beginnners in cyber security will start at level 1...

[past sparrow]

For starting, yes, learn anything you can about computers, in cybersecurity you will need it, if you are in learning stage, you are full of enthusiasm and you absorb that knowledge more easily, if you are already at the stage where you need to study, you will be more resistant towards it

[past sparrow]

In perfect world, sure

[rapid merlin]

Damn, where's this l2 analyst role I can land as a beginner?

[wintry sluice]

in this world too

[past sparrow]

I know we hired L2 analysts few years ago, people straight out from university

everything they needed to know they learned on the job

[rapid merlin]

Fair

[past sparrow]

I say straight out of university, but now that I think about it, one of them is right now 3rd year in university, so when we hired him he was first year in uni

[shell nova]

Depends on what your goal is tbh

[past sparrow]

Oh absolutely that is a very big factor

[shell nova]

If it's writing software then I wouldn't recommend C

[past sparrow]

yeah, but you are not training to become a programmer