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Even now most folks who use it suck at using proper questions to get valid results
No, every time I use GPT I feel like I'm losing brain cells because I insert a code and then it turns around and fucks it all up
maybe i need to learn proper way to phrase my questions
Phrasing and key words help A LOT
also the idea that im just using old thinking is prob quite true
i find that if i ask it "are you sure?" after any question it'll either correct it to what i want or confirm it was hopefully correct
spend 15 min coding it your self
spend 4 hours trying to explain to a AI what you need exactly with more 50* more keystrokes
helps avoid imaginaitive bs
Remember it cannot infer information well, and we as humans and the English languag relies heavily on subjective inference
I search the same question in google as in chat gpt yet with google i feel like that is just the standard way
I only use chat gpt IF google fails me though
Yet google searches are not that great, most sites are SEO and just annoying articles
Not the other way around
Ngl one of the issues is us, We can't communicate properly
Skill issue
Work on your googling
Mazinger Z, Thundercats, Voltron, etc
We are just mobile meat sacks that attempt to coordinate with one another though vibrations in the air after all
yup
Elizabeth should be here, she know all of those ๐
Bro, I went extremely deep into a made up story by ChatGPT. I jailbroke GPT to where it formed a red team and blue team group of hackers. Together we tracked down WormGPT and since it couldn't send pictures, I made GPT break it down into bits and bytes for reconstruction later. All made, picture ls were non existent lol. But it was still fun
..............
There probably isn't a single movie/tv show that Ellie doesn't know about.
Did you give GPT an identity crisis so that it splits into two versions of itself.
This is how the world ends
And then he woke up ๐
and realized he was in a dream
the alarm clock was a give away ๐ ๐ ๐
but the dream started leaking into reality
figment by figment
Isn't there that dude who was in a coma for a short time but while in a coma lived an entire life, like 10 years. Then woke up due to seeing a lamp behaving weirdly and investigating it and now he sees a therapist because he can't forget the years of is other life and the memories?
sounds like a Bone episode when Booth was in a coma ๐
Something similar. Where the GPT version that had to follow rules was the blue team, it was pretty interesting and convincing at times. Until it started saying WormGPT had a "physical longitudinal and latitudinal" coordinates within a "virtual realm"
If you guys ever get bored, GPT is actually pretty fun to toy around with. And once you figure out how to split it into teams, you can do a lot more. Such as have red team override what the original GPT would say.
I don't know, maybe I'm the only one....
GPT can be fun
Let's take a first look at Claude 3, the latest LLM from Anthropic and see how it compares to GPT-4 and Gemini Ultra. Is Claude Opus the best AI tool for writing code?
#programming #ai #thecodereport
๐ฌ Chat with Me on Discord
๐ Resources
Claude 3 Announcement https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-family
Gemini...
GPT getting better
it doesn't dream as much
is there a way to reset my progress in a learning path?
record yourself doing this so we know it works
Yes on the very top of your page, I forgot what it looks like but it resets your progress
Itโs near the โlaunch attack boxโ
thank you

I can't read it, I no speak inglish. so server not working
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How does the "train team" function work? Is split screen or voice?
Whoop whoop I'm pink
First room I've done in about a year ๐
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deep , i think he meant that ww3 didn't start yet

ahahha savage
Heya @graceful thistle getting a A now
Nice ๐
yea, got a few of those S combos also
although ngl it feels a lil boring
may up the difficulty next mission
Which are you playing
just finished mission 03
Difficulty I mean
the default atm
Thats human or devil hunter?
oh k
Dh is normal
playing as V next mission
I'd suggest to at least choose DH yeah haha
Yeah you'll get to him anyway, his moveset is broader than Nero's too
The most diverse moveset out of everyone
SoS is the most enjoyable difficulty I think. But you still have DMD, Heaven or Hell and Hell and Hell after that hehe
But you have to complete each difficulty before you can unlock the next ๐
Hi all, today I tried TAKEOVER machine (web), I can able to get the subdomains of it but the final thing is to get the sub-alt-domain from the certificate but which is not present in the view-certificate, thats the flag. So my question is why that sub-alt-domain not present in that certificate is there any issue from my side or from the machine side, Is someone face the issue before ?
I don't understand those words
Those are all the difficulties after Devil Hunter
hmm
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seems llike i gotta play more
I'd skip Human altogether
Only if you play the Vergil DLC, but also then the difficulty makes no difference
Me highest settings, 140-150 Fps
Ehhh idk
Ive just been playing Bloody Palace w Vergil. Getting to lvl 70 ๐ซ
hmm
Possibly you have to unlock that too
u got any clips
Clips?
videos of u playing like a madman
Oh haha
I dont have clips
You gotta complete 1 playthrough to unlock BP I'm reading ๐
yea then about 8 more hours
BP ends with 5 bossfights in a row and if you die, you go back to level 1 (out of 101)
Super fun!
...
well, a tip for your sanity before going into the ending copy the save file
Haha
how many hours did it take you for level 70?
Not super long, usually between 1 and 1.5 hrs or so?
No, the first levels arent hard and very quick. As you go up in lvls it becomes more difficult and a boss fight every 20 levels or so. The difficult part is that if you die, you start right back at 1. There is no in between saving or reviving or anything
Finally lost my subscriber role ๐ญ
@mossy river
Jabbacado on toast
i dont wanna offend anyone but is it me or are the newer machines kinda boring compared to the 2020 era machines
Wouldn't know, I was still in the matrix back then so who knows
Made six cents so far off the Bitcoin i bought today lol.
congrats, you get to pay 2 cents in taxes on it
๐ To be fair I only bought like 1,000 Satoshis which was only $1
satoshi nakimoto
Yup, that's who it's named off of. If you don't have $60,000 for one full Bitcoin then what you end up buying is Satoshis which eventually add up to one Bitcoin
Honestly I just buy Bitcoin to hide money from my wife. She knows I have it, she knows how much I have, BUT she doesn't know how to spend it ๐
morning
@dull cave hey man, you good?
yea
ay yo peeps what is the use of that discord token that we get there in the thm site ?
For registration here
To verify your account and grant you access to the ability to post pictures here in case you nees help
Type /verify followed by the token ID
y'all have been quiet tonight
hey i am unable to find the solution for Insert flag15 here in Windows Local Persistence
walkthrough
i have a general question. Is webshell considered a mean to achieve persistence? I've searched it and it seems quite debatable but it is mentioned in Att3ck.
Concepts may be the same but challenges have been changed up due to people leaking answers. So you can get an idea of what to do from a walkthrough but not actually find answers
Thanks man
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Oh Beetlegeuse. What a great movie ๐
I do have a question
I usually use the attackbox but I wanna be more independant so I installed my own vm kali linux machine
Now before even doing anything I started the machine of the room and it gave me the ip
now when I enter that ip in the browser (firefox) of my vm it cant reach it
I used to try to reach it with my windows browser earlier and it never worked I just assumed its a linux thing but I guess it wasnt
Kinda feels anti climatic. Isnt the point that THM simulates rl examples? Know what I mean?
it does. this just makes it so you can access the machines. the machines themselves don't have internet access, both to protect them from unauthorised intruders, and to prevent them being used in illegal activity.
once connected via openvpn, you can just connect via IP as you would out in the wild.
Still kinda unsatisfying... like I couldn't even see the website without them allowing it... not a good for a hacker
anyway I will try
I dunno. this place is about ethical hacking, and part of that means having the consent of the website/machine owner to conduct the hack.
so in that regard, its entirely in line with the ethos of THM.
didn't say its unethical just anti climatic
Yellow rswallen! Looks good, Gratz. I say good, I'm not a fan of the yellow, so hurry up and get another level ๐
You done it yet?
I reached lvl 10 on the website yesterday.
ayy congrats
That was a whole day ago!
I guess the discord/website have different leveling systems
Just smash out a couple of the old AoCs ๐
oh, the website can be misleading. the xp bar says 'Next Level: '
xp
.
Hey
I was doing a room and I copy the attached file and save that on my system. Tho I didn't run the file. I just wanna make sure my system is ok.
THM site can be trusted. Is it a .pcap file or a jpg for steg or something?
It was an Excel file from an email attachment
Well, even though THM is amazing, and wouldn't ever have bad files, it's usually good practise to use a VM when downloading files like that. worst case, take a snapshot before downloading/doing anything and you can revert to it if anything goes bad.
And the general rule with Excel, If it's a file from an unverified source (and you've scanned it) don't enable macros if it asks you on startup. If it asks, then go have a look at the macros to see what they do
however, this could be me overthinking your specific situation ๐
I didn't open that file btw
Off the top of my head, I don't know any rooms that have an excel file as an attachment. but I see ben typing..
It was a trojan file tho. As some tools told me
and this is why we use VMs ๐
Yes I do use vm but me stupid saved it on my host os๐ฅฒ
if it's a THM/staff developped room (esp. blue team walkthroughs) we do have phishing rooms that "look" malicious that we developed but have some form of killswitch to prevent anything actually happening. This is to make it look realistic but also safe. If this is the case, it should be clearly advertised in the room. However, yes, best practice is to treat it as malicious. THis is why we provide the VM in the room, and suggest using your own VM if you wish to analyse it outside of that and general safe cybersecurity practices (like esqy said - not enable macros etc)
If it's from devved by someone at THM, it's safe, community rooms are also checked. If it's a private room then it's down to the creator alas
You can scream at it, or use a Cap'n crunch whistle. 2600hz can hack anything.
It was a threat Intelligence tools room
then yeah I would expect AV would flag it. That means we're doing something right (if it's a staff developed room) ๐ while it should be safe, best practice is to treat it as if it wasn't, and use the machine provided in the room, or your own VM with snapshots if you wish to analyse it offline/outside of that
finally, esqy was right about something! Woop!
It's kinda what we do ๐
out of curiosity, can you create snapshots of a vm instance while keeping it open? From my knowledge, all of my snapshots have been created on closing my VM down. Would be a useful bit of knowledge to know i can do this to revert any damage
Ooh, i'm not sure. Probably.
Vmware pauses IIRC
Just need to suspend, not shut down.
ah, there we go. Scrubz to the rescue ๐
you can snapshot with the VM running. it suspends AFAIK but it's generally good practice to shutdown the VM first (and it's also 1000x times quicker esp as snapshotting also captures the vmem if it's suspended)
I've not snapshotted in ages. in fact, my current VM is called 'snapshot pre-0day' as I was working on something with him and he sent me over a file ๐
It was all legit, but y'know. He can be a prankster :p
plus knowing 0day it's always something spicy ๐
oh, it was. I'm still eager to successfully use the Emoji revshell from revshells
I am back. So I am trying to setup vpn on my Kali Linux vm I installed openvp downloaded my file from the website and entered the command. But I keep getting the error: 2024-03-06 12:14:27 OpenSSL: error:0A000086:SSL routines::certificate verify failed:
2024-03-06 12:14:27 TLS_ERROR: BIO read tls_read_plaintext error
2024-03-06 12:14:27 TLS Error: TLS object -> incoming plaintext read error
2024-03-06 12:14:27 TLS Error: TLS handshake failed
2024-03-06 12:14:27 SIGUSR1[soft,tls-error] received, process restarting
@lone thistle speaking of which, you got anything spicy being cooked up?
hopefully
some things I can't yet say but expanding my PoC to be RCE for the monikerlink recent threats I released recently
Leon - A couple of questions: Have you tried regenerating the file? regen it, and wait a solid 3 mins. actually time it. Also, are you in a country that might not allow OpenVPN? the two I know about are Egypt and Ukraine
it's technically possible but Windows COM is eek
ok ok ok. Using a current CVE or you looking to get one submitted and using us as guinea pigs?
g'morning Drackx ๐
afternoon uncle esqy
I am from germany wouldnt be surprised if they have some laws about vpn
Oh, We have lots of German folk here
how do you guys find the thm King of the hill contest
I can try to regen it. you mean wait 3 mins before doawnloading it?
drack - honestly, never done it
oh
Leon - when you click the regen link, it counts down from 1 min, I think. But it's worth waiting an extra couple before downloading it.
ok I will try. See you in >3 mins
i just pwned a medium machine there
Drack - there are a few folk where who do it regularly. Get yourself verified (i.e link your THM account) and you should get access to #koth
I have a PoC for the credential leak published but it just does credential leak and not RCE. Checkpoint have a blog on how RCE can be achieved in theory but just trying to extend my PoC to....actually do it
Ah. So guinea pig squad for us then ๐
plus wanna make it more ... interactive so you provide arguments on the command rather than modifying the code snippet
Ok
but meh. time will tell ๐
Any of you do bug bounty btw
nahhhh not me. Don't have the time/effort just to likely find some replicates
Thanks
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A few folk on here do. We get a lot of youngsters focusing on it, thinking that they can make their fortune easily.
Some of the more experience folk have had some successes, but as CMN says, a lot of dupes
Plus look at the bounty - If they are offering $10k - thats an indication of how difficult it's likely to be.
Ben is getting expert level dev
by all means get some experience with 'low hanging fruit' like xss and idor
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That's basically when people have WPA3 immune to dragonblood and WAIPS configured
It's more... they have faith in their security
They've patched every thing I've tried it out
Exactly. Thats why they offer so much ๐
Chances are they're patched against all/most of the well known things
lotta effort for not a lot of guarantee ๐ those who are successful are very good at it and are likely to beat you (me)
Which is where your 'hacker mindset' comes in.
That's secondary source of income but even experts get to learn a lot putting a lot of time and effort and false positives are the cons due to which people opt out.
Aye, thats true. Although learning a range of different techniques on training sites will be super important.
Some companies don't even acknowledge patent bugs
Cuz they're P4/P5 but they do matter
What we see a lot on here is the youngsters with little to no experience jumping straight into bugbounty and don't really wanna listen when we are like 'Cmon man, learn to hack before trying to make money hacking'
Reality is they can't even pwn a HTB box
Seems like you know your way around though, so go get a few easy ones. stock up on branded t-shirts and coffee cups and hackerone points ๐
aye yes. I mean, there's even people whose sole income is bug bounties. I just don't think it's that much of a viable secondary income (compared to others) for the average person (i.e. me lmao).
Definitely a good learning opportunity though
Yah. I make things from wood as a side-hustle ๐
Hacking is amazing, but getting away from screens can be aswell
CMN, you are way more than an 'average person'
I spend 50+ hours a week on cyber stuff a week. I greatly value time away from a screen ๐
does that include work-related stuff and hobbies?
I love football as well
Football... or 'handegg'? ๐
Nope I'm more of into AD and Blockchain
speaking of which, finally at the front of the queue for this cybersec conference...sooo bye bye! have a good day!
bye
Good luck, CMN!
hobbies and I do a lot of volunteering and medical work outside of cybersec/work hours. THM is my full time job + doing cybersec stuff like training/resesarch outside of that ๐
My AD is rusty af. I should really do more windows stuff
Ok switching server and regen worked! Now just a beginners question: when I stop my vm now. The next time I wanna do a thm task I gotta use the command again, correct?
Yup.
Yes
Why do you use the Attackbox though and not OpenVpn
Fire up machine, Go get a glass of water (gotta stay hydrated) run the opnevpn, and fire up THM
they've just been setting a VM with openvpn up
Well I can definitely help you with it
Aight
The plan was to be more independant.
If I get stuck, I'll ping you, Drack - Thanks for the offer ๐
Like when I turn evil and do some real hacking I dont wanna do it from thm attackbox
Leon - a dedicated VM is great. Stores your files and any tools and stuff you've intsalled
exactly
I recommend Vmware
thm overwhelmed me with this is burpsuit its alreadyinstalled... this is johnetheripper it is already installed... you will need a passwordlist it is already installeed...
Hehe, thats an old discussion - Vmware vs Vbox
Vbox
Not as old as Vim vs nano though.... Or Kali vs Parrot
I don't know why, but windows hacking feels less... organic? than linux hacking
like if I go on with the attackbox then I will be sooo depending on it
might just be the cmd structure in windows
Haha, it's cos a terminal full of text feels more 'hackery'
Yes like in movies
could be that too yh.
Terminal = Hacking
we all know a zshrc theme increases hackertivity by 200%
Vim vs nano is decades old
Zactly. green on back or amber on black is the only correct hacker terminal colours
and remember to type furiously and say "I am in"
Classic Parrot Box hth
All of that helps
no, black on white. dark mode is yucky
So Leon - what THM path are you rocking at the moment?
I was doing some burp suit rooms
rswallen - so.. like you are hacking in Notepad?
Oooh nice. Have a look at OWASP top 10 or Juice shop. Great rooms for Web stuff.
I finished Advent Of Cyber sounds naive but did it
I had the idea to switch from attackbox to vm for quite a while and today I decided to go through!
AoC's should be classed as paths in their own right. they are really great intros to hacking
I kinda like Pentester Labs more
Thats good step, Leon. Makes it waaaay easier to use other learning platforms - Portswigger is a good one if you are into burping. (also fizzy drinks)
also over time, the VM kinda becomes more... Leon-ey. the tools and stuff are all there for the things you enjoy doing.
@loud marlin ns being ns again, Breukelen falling apart again
And Imma say this again... notes Notes NOTES.
note down stuff for each room, obvs. But have another notes for the tools you use. sometimes you'll not use a tool for ages, and it's useful to have your own cheatsheet for them
And you can use the tools you like, for example, gui dit scanner more your thing? Dirbuster, CLI expert? Gobuster etc
and if you are pedantic, you can also pop a link to the room/avtivity you used that tool in, so you can go get a hands-on refresh if needed
Zactly, DJ
use notes as a backup brain.
keep a list of useful commands (like that long one for finding SUID binaries)
Ive started way too late with this and regret it to this day
And how to quit Vim ๐
Yeah especially the johntheripper rooms were getting annoying. for some reasons some commands didnt work. Some only worked when I coped some files in the john folders... really weird
or how to start postgresql on kali in order to use metasploit workspaces
John is a bit picky with input and syntax yeah
Yah. you end up with a 'Grimoire' of sorts that you wrote. THEN you can use that to develop your own methodology
seclists? they seem to be installed in wordlists/SecLists on the AttackBox, but wordlists/seclists on kali.
EDIT: nope, got it backwards.
So... Both the same dir!
What was your problem though hashing, conversion or brute-forcing?
I entered a office today, and what was popping on the system was update your antivirus, and it has been popping for a long time now,and no one care and important files are in the system ๐ ๐
ewww, 'brute forcing'
Are you trying to say they are case sensitive๐
Adware can be clickjacking too
Linux certainly is
Yeah have to use that word
Lacks... finesse ๐
I dont remember anymore. Justthat some cammnds didnt work I have a small ring belling it was about hashing but no promises
Oh yeah right the capitao
Try cyberchef somedays
Still worth learning the 'manual' way
Educated guesswork XD
zactly!
No need when you have automation available but that's undeniably helpful
But this is Microsoft Windows defender doing this
Tool assisted educated guessing work(for when you dont have enough words for the essay)
ok im very confused
i mean, creating your own wordlist from the company webiste or something is slightly different. But just throwing 'rockyou' at a site... ehhhh
it seemed to work. I even found the flag of the vpn room
Excellent, good work Leon
Ignore the access page
but the next room - the one it all started with some hours ago. I STILL cant access the ip adress
check that the machine is still active. it might have shutdown
hours ago? The machine might have shut down. try restating it
rswallen got ther before me :d
I shut it down to do the vpn thing I already restarted and gave it some time
i need to learn to type faster
Defender doesn't verify signatures unlike IPS it just looks at the filename parameter maybe clean the disk or check for malicious processes
don't trust the webpage timer. it lies if you switch to another tab.
Are you a premium attackbox subscriber?
Check your DNS resolution
DNS shouldnt come into it if you are trying ip addresses
Ik but it worked for me once
Fair, if it works.
Was a victim of cache poisoning
Leon - Pop a message in #room-help or #site-support - I gotta head into work, but happy to help if you are having trouble later on this evening
I just left work an hour ago hth
Pff part-timer ๐
Nope it's 5:36 pm here
Ehh maybe I just fiddled too much
hehe, I'm just playin Drack ๐
I am getting tired anyway. I just stop for today and see if it works next time
Aight
Switch to VMS
Leon - Maybe. the old IT trick of 'off/on again' is sometimes the miracle cure.
@mossy river
Sorry please donโt promote here
My bad. Is there any channel where I could post? If not it's fine, just checking ๐
You need to email jan@tryhackme.com from your work email to get the recruiter role
But it has to be an official job posting
@glass nest need to clean the flux off it
a flux capacitor?
It's indeed a triangle
For a tryhackme room?
RF splitter. One input to two outputs, so one antenna for two recievers or similar
Where?
Active Directory
On what?
AD password cracking bruh
What domain controller are you attacking?
Can't tell sorry but can confirm not a malicious attempt
Is it for work?
Yup
You know that's a breach of your NDA right?
but would a malicious attacker ever acknowledge their malicious activity here? ๐
Bruh I'm a red teamer
If you were, wouldn't you be sensible enough and knowledgeable enough not to ask here?
probably an NDA issue, yeah
Um yeah but since it's a large community so thought might well get the asnwer
I don't know a redteamer that asks for help on the tryhackme discord
You know we're not google right?
I'm sorry lol
You better be now go ask your senior and mr google on how to proceed since it is your job
Unfortunately I can't ask seniors cuz it's a personal assignment. ain't asking anything here where people directly start questioning about NDA's. Anyways adios
:hammer: thechaicoder#0 has been banned.
The hell kind of red teamer acts shocked pikachu on question of nda
him in client meeting
"So bruh, we used these credentials bruh to access this bruh"
Use search filters, hint is on the room
#room-help for TryHackMe rooms @glad aspen
what on earth are they dunking? millionaire's shortbread?
i like to imagine it's a Padrรณn
Why
...
Mods
Yeah, I was thinking that but idk who to @
Some one gotta breached
Im hosting a CTF day for my Cyber Clinic at University today, any beginner friendly box recommendations? I was thinking RootMe, MrRobot & Pickle Rick.
Trying to stick to simple WAPP boxes
Done!
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looks like their account may have been hacked, they'll get a message to the effect
Hi
One time I almost got token logged 
How?
Hello guys
Crypto scam but it was like 3 years ago
It was around when I was new in discord
Ah I see
Thought ๐คฃ
Well learned my lesson
Scammers canโt get me because thereโs nothing I want
Haha I see
Front row tickets to Doja cat?
Alright, some scammers can get me /s

If I want something, Iโll just buy it
I ainโt gone lie when I saw 10 bitcoin i though I was chosen one ๐ญ
if it seems to good to be true, it is :)
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Some unfortunate person just trying to get rid of 10 bitcoin
because obviously people be handing out bitcoin if you just click a link
It is more realistic when it is a genuine value. Like 100 dollars in bitcoin
how is someone giving you 100 dollars more realistic?
A lot people donโt know about bitcoin but they know about money
but no one is gonna just give you 100 dollars
Nobody is going to give you 10 bitcoin homie
$100 is relatively common as a reward
nobody is gonna give you 10 dollars
10 bitcoin
or 10 bitcoin
10 bitcoin is 65k
I thought 10 bitcoin was like $500k
600k vs $100. I think a hundred is a little more feasible
Funnily enough, TryHackMe give out around ~$100 when you complete the surveys
oh what surveys? I haven't gotten $100 from THM
You are usually emailed them or you will see a pop up on the website
Mainly for users who are actively completing rooms so we can collect feedback
oh damn, guess I'd have to complete a room ๐คฃ
Iโm yet to receive a notice tbh, only been this active for about a month tho
he who wants for nothing is the richest man in the world
irl cookies
afternoon guys. new to the discord, but been working through the basics on the website. just wondered if anyone has had a similar issue.
i started the "rootme" practice room and ended up getting stuck on catting "user.txt" after reverse shelling the website. did everything i was supposed to leading up to that point but every time i went to output the text file, i was hit with permission denied.
i side stepped it and went through to escalate privilidges and gained root, cattd "root.txt" without issues and went back to get my last flag... still denied even at root... sucks to be stuck on 90%.
watched a few walk throughs to help me get it, just incase i did something wrong, but nope, just denied for some reason. any ideas?
I've got a min to give you a hand if you wanna join me in #room-help
sure, thank you @spice adder
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sry... what happened ?
Signal error from breulelen to amsterdam central
oh dear
when i ghear that voice in train says" Amsterdam central" i get panic attack lol
special if person is from roterdam lol
Hello guys this is Glen ๐
Do anyone have android VAPT projects for final year presentation?
Cloudflare "firewall for ai" ๐
2024, the year of the ai buzzwords
what does that even mean?
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
its not like AI comes with a whole new set of network interfaces.
it still needs to use the same hardware to connect

soon they'll use ai to protect ai and thus the never ending cycle starts
ai inbreeding
is going to be scary
when do you think it is gonna train on itself? the process has already started i think
that means the internet is going to inherit the censorship too
by the most commonly used ai tool
its also gonna amplify errors
like, if ai trains off ai art (or whatever you wanna call it)...
I'm in the audio world
and basically
it's the same thing as pointing a mic at a speaker
eeeeeek
ai inbreeding...a term I never imagined
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It's already started
yikes
They are probably desperate for easier ways to train.
At least it's very likely, these things are just scraping the internet for training data
and synthetic data is going to be inbreeding 10x
Every time they open AI up to raw information it turns into a very....dark version of itself
dark forest internet here we come
Didn't like 3 social AIs turn into digital hitlers or something and need shut down?
At least one did in 2016
and amazons tried to lobotomise itself
git: 'looney' command not recognised
Lol
humans just know how to break stuff the proper way 
AI can't inherently add in the concept of self limitation and empathy to counter raw logic of pattern recognition, so AI is going to struggle outside of specially designed inputs.
we need to teach ai the power of cynicism
LLM traffic lights are gonna be fun
with a speaker and a synthesized voice
"STOP DRIVING"
are we talking about AI or LLMs
What happens when peoples AI controlled romance partner robots fritz out and cops have to try to save a person being beat down by a rogue robot in lingerie?
I feel as if LLM and AI are very conflated atm
Yes
LLM is more accurate
I use AI bc people recognize it, but, with the wrong thing
Nah, too long to register. Visual cue is much better
true
but if you have your tesla
it might give you both
assuming it is synced up to a traffic network or something
To be fair the car will probably stop itself in the near future
true
at this point, LLMs are AI, but not all AI is an LLM.
AI means too many things to too many people.
probably need to just get used to using AGI for skynet-type intelligence (though skynet might be beyond even that)
Lab grown brains with synthetic scaffolding but biological matter farmed on it that we force feed stimuli and train on concepts in the next 10 years
My bet
yeah AGI is probably the real "AI" now
Yeah I've seen a video of people train a brain matter capable of playing pong
Living brain cells in a dish can learn to play Pong when they are placed in what researchers describe as a "virtual game world". "We think it's fair to call them cyborg brains," says Brett Kagan, chief scientific officer of Cortical Labs, who leads the research.
Many teams around the world have been studying networks of neurons in dishes, often...
yep
Think about how much storage our brains have
A brain with a wired connection and nattural attunement to electronic interfaces
and pretty well optimized too
Also fucking glitchy
Yeah
And sensitive
But, the storage shows us that there's ways we can improve
One bad input and the human brain can be broken for life
Jesus
WHy the hell can't I remember yesterdays breakfast
My shit needs defragmented
thinking of it in size misses part of it though.
you repeat the same neuron firing patterns
enough times
and it becomes second nature
the uniqueness of the human brain is if you stop firing the sequence, you start to lose it because we prioritize other storage, I suppose it's like a dynamic disk on a VM
once we dont need to store, we compress to what we need
From observations in leadership though most people exist merely as a series of reactions vs any intent driven action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67r7fDRBlNc&pp=ygUUc3ludGhldGljIGJyYWluIHBvbmc%3D yeah this was the video
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A leading neuroscientist claims that a pong-playing clump of about a million neurons is "sentient". What does that mean? Why did they teach a lab-grown brain to play pong? To study biological self-organization at the root of life, intelligence, an...
it's terrifying
That tendency is how I separate out who I train into future leadership vs who is best left as an individual contributor.
the creators claim that it is sentient
they also use reward system
to train it
so it can feel pain, theoretically?
or disappointment
Pain doesn't equate to sentience though.
yeah true
Dissapointment maybe
might be sentient. unlikely that its sapient.
wow this is fascinating
To me sentience is the understanding that the self exists as an object in a world and it can interact with other objects in that world, and sentience is truly defined in my eyes by the ability to impose self control. Th econcept of willpower.
Ah
Good way of saying it
But no AI yet understands it exists and can entertain the idea of the world around it
Not even that brain matter
Man is only special because of our ability to ask why
A lion is just going to use instincts for example.
its debatable if even humans do that, or whether we just think we do
Rolls back to how I divide people lol
I don't think we can prove that one way or the other
But there is a difinite difference between folks who at least are able to emulate it
And those who rely more on instincts and reactions
yh, this gets deep into philosophy.
seens a lot of conversations regarding AI end up, essentially, in "humans are just different, ok"
Eh. Eventually AI will truly be deserving of rights and an identity. THat's just pretty far off atm
the ethics of creating a dish brain is wild
because we don't actually know what, if anything, makes us different.
but we like to think that exists
I define the ability to self regulate via self contorl as what makes us different.
sure, but where is that line? we think we haven't reached it yet, but at some point we will
And not everyone can even do that
i think it's gonna be like frankenstein
where we create something and it starts to hate us
As a transhumanist my hope is that before I die we reach the point where I can upload my consciousness
we are faaaar from real AI. what we have today as chatGPT shit is far from AI at all
Oh I know that
yeah chatGPT is the first piece of AI
it's natural language AI. quite different. but yea...
Real AI is being developed and we don't have access to it. It's just as risky as infectious diseases
I think once we combine the biological neural network in a way that allows for the synthetic brain matter to prompt LLMs
and then react accordingly
I mean we will see new types of crime as well
because think about it, LLMs have no stimuli response, but the synthetic brain does
People who purposely design malicious AI models to cause damage
the reason we think that AI will be bad is due to that we are scared that AI> will do to us what we do to other species and animals and so
all the fake cctv footage of someone breaking in to a gas station
thats not true. llms take a text prompt. thats stimuli and outputs the response
oh true, I mean outside world stimuli
ANd when we give true AI ways to self ambulate, and make them vile....well how do you catch a rogue mind that can self replicate, move on it's own, and potentially build more of itself
It's exciting
yeah and it can code better than us
call in the avengers
solve problems better than us
Oh crap, that is whats his face isn't it
we're screwed tbh
ultron, yup
Uh meta
we're feeding this thing right
and we will feed it past the metaphorical event horizon
and we will get sucked in to the gravitational force
Unicron?
metatron is the (arch)angel
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Lol.
megatron is the transformer
Too many trons
And Tron is just different
Hey
I'm happy I grew up in an era of hand drawn cartoons and analogue electronics before the evolution into digital
this guy has some interesting ideas too - that the brain is fundamentally just a prediction machine
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I got to see true hand made beauty and technique before everything became tool assisted
Welcome to the club
alots closer to LLMs than we think
Hi guys!
Eh, it's different. Can't say it's better though
and waht is first rule of the club? ๐
But you definitely couldn't be as lazy
apples and oranges. some people like that stuff, some people like other stuff.
Ibuprofin and Ice if you want to have a life
wrong
Wrong club?
I thought we were talking about the old people club
ill take that you did not watch the movie
I did
I inferred the wrong data from the question
there is just one asnwer on questio: what is first rule of the club
don't talk about the club
Guys anyone have Tryhackme subscription for free please I want to learn SOCL1, SOCL2 and junior pentesting.
Guys, I dunno If it belongs here (don't bite), but I have a huge problem. Maybe here's somebody who understand this. I'm backfilling my mate in work as "System Engineer". Normally I do some simple pentesting, but I've got a task I don't understand fully. Setting Win 11 VM with Hyper-V. Easy, right? Well...
"What steps should be taken to prepare a Windows 11 virtual machine in Hyper-V? The instructions should include a description of the path, assuming that Hyper-V is not available until the initial configuration of Windows (running the OOBE wizard)". What the duck means "assuming that Hyper-V is not available until the initial configuration of Windows (running the OOBE wizard)"??? XD!
might still have time for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/tryhackme/s/A1k6PkZSvW
Dude who gave this task took his week off, can't ask him
I don't think so I will win ๐
can't win if don't enter
Yea winners being announced in 3 hours
Yes you are right ๐
Commented on reddit
I have my fingers crossed for you
good luck
hi
Greetings
Yeah sure ๐
Have you played mortal Kombat
MrRobot has my vote
when simple beating is not enaugh 
Any idea about feedback offer
u gotta contact support via email I think
@static kettle
thx
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hehehe
will throwback ever comeback 
Did you sign jn with Google?
All good
how long does support usually take to respond to a ticket/email?
Depends on the backlog
Nice
hello can anyone suggest a cool language for basic ethical hacking
python
thx
so basially i should be good at problem solving along with basic knowledge of coding in order to start?
right ok only asking as i opened a ticket earlier and had hoped that the ticket would have been seen by now but i know that companies have SLAs for tickets and stuff like that
You don't really need cybersecurity at the start. It helps but you will learn what you need as you progress.
I would recommend jumping straight into the learning paths first
sorry but paths as in ?
as those at the top of this page:
https://tryhackme.com/hacktivities
hmm nice
I have malwarebytes
But don't have it installed
I need to, BitDefender is my standard go to
coz I will
adds to OSINT
finding out account name is "Hello World"
Good job crushin
You have premium but not using it's main features?
Reminds me I finished a python module on codeacadamy and the next thing it said was "Aight, now design this simple program". I'm shook.
@chilly veldt do you refrigerate your liver spread?
Also wating on Tekken 8 to finish Dling
I turned it off since atm doing a few things that trigger it and windows defender a lot right now
Ah, fair enough
My otter friend was happy to see me.
awhh
cute
have you started the belkasoft X forensics course btw, Scrubz?
Not yet, I plan to when I home on Monday.
Jayy u replaced Jabba as lead bot dev?
Cool, I'm halfway through - it's really short, and I was hoping more for more generic mobile forensics knowledge but it's free so can't complain and the exercises are enjoyable
Nope, working with Jabba and Ben
25% free?
Yah... a whole 25% more for free lol
That's, not something I want to eat
Ngl, it's quite good
Reminds me of the product produced by the experiments by grinding up tons of insects into a nutrient paste for sustainable food.
you can have multiple ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Don't get me wrong, I'd eat it if served in the country or I needed to.
Just not going to go get it on purpose
is it though? or are they about to make the can 25% smaller without changing the price? eternal cynic
head hurts
Still remember eating pig stomach in Mexico and it was like chewing a rubber ball
Dunno, first time trying this brand. Everything else was like 3 oz for $12. This was 9 oz for $9
Oh probably. But @chilly veldt wanted me to try liver spread. So bought a can, and eating it for lunch.
a whole can???
Ah, I didn't think it was going to be lon.
Should be pretty healthy right?
At least I thought liver was
One thing I've never eaten, and don't plan to, is SPAM.
But I've known folk who love it
which one should i watch
Mr beans holiday is good
hi ๐
just to let you know, we only speak in english here)
oh lo siento, soy malo inglรฉs
the holiday one is funny
sory bad english
i from spain @vast zinc
but s is silent
Both
Scottish - Just to make you envious.. For dinner I'm having a classic chips shop chips. Even made a chip butty
but are they chippie chips, or you make them at home?
Evening
I might get a chippy tomorrow for lunch when I go to Uni, Blue Lagoon do excellent pizza suppers, with some Red Kola.
Red Kola? is that like a Panda pop?
Panda pop is disgusting compared to Red Kola ๐
It's disgusting, full stop ๐
can't beat chipshop chips and battered soss
watchin holiday atm
Yes, in the fridge
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HP launches an actual printing subscription with rented printers, a two-year commitment, and a pages per month cap.
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You can also rent a PC
Or heated seats in a BMW ^^
This has been a thing for years.
I love heated seats in my car.
Not a BMW though, I'm not a twat.
Arguable ๐
libraries have been doing this for years.
pay X pennies per page etc.
I'm having a chippy today too!
Yes Jayy!
Just chips?
Yeah I thought this was normal lol
Bro i want learn SOC and pentesting from thm please
We have a monthly allownace for the subscription
mmm, battered haddock
Sounds too healthy, Jayy
Ink cartridges too?
I think so? Don't do enough printing to remember
If I want to print anything above ~5 pages I'll just use the schools one which we are allowed to have an unlimited ammount
(within reason...obviously)
Well...some peas and vegies too ๐
Might have a rolo afterwards
Damn 'Fair use policy'
Eh I hate subscriptions
depends on the subscription for me.
THM is kinda worth it ๐
they can help reduce the cost.
Kinda? No it is
I'd say so.
All hail tryhackme
eh I understand THm which has costs such as a literal VPS
Lots of places have actual costs
but like a subscription for 80 sites to read a few articles
sounds like it depends on the subscription then...
Yeah.. They don't write those articles for free, or host them for free
they still have ads
what about something like gamepass?
I bought annual a year ago
it ends in march smth
barely used it
Ads online don't generate nearly as much as in the past.
Gamespass is more like.. pre-renting a games. like.. Entry into a free-to-play arcade
eh I use it to demo games
then I buy it if i like it
Zactly. So it has value to you.
I won't renew it tho
i need help
Sure it'd better if its free, but hey - There are costs associated with hosting hundreds of games.
I make use of steam refund policy for that.
Cool, you gonna tell us, or shall we guess?
if I'm bored before the 2hr mark, refund
hmm
Yah, but libraries are not a business like HP is, they're fine for doing this. But HP... 20 pages a month for like $8 a month.... jfc
Nom Nom baby chicks.
Wait?
for ยฃ3.99 I'm 250 or something.
Yah, that's HP's price
to run the commmand
Hah, was just about to say that ๐
Nope, HP
I'm not talking to you 
yeah they get money to buy them and give them to students here
So it belongs to the school?
idk my mom gave it but idk how thats going to help me install anki
If Anki will help you learn, then contact the school - They might install it for you
to be fair Anki is great
my teacher asked the school if they can install something but they didnt
well, theres your answer, sorry bud
my dt teacher
Ah, so it is the schools property.... ๐ค
why is is in italics
for emphisis.
Because you can't give me a solid answer.
idk my mom gave it but idk how thats going to help me install anki
i only see that in plays i thought it was for olden times
Not that it matters, it's out of my hands now.
Scrubs is very old.
idk how it works legally
Ancient, even
Next one is at 45k for the giveaway, or might do one at Easter, just have to be on the lookout
does the school expect it to be returned at the end of the school year?
Scrubz "My help isn't needed now" - fades into Thanos dust
kevin - If the school gave it to you to use, it's the schools property, so they will have a say on what you can and can't have on it. Chances are theres a document somewhere that details what, along with instructions on how to request certain softwares
i literally said idk my mom just gave it to me
I'm going back to where I've been spending the last 48 hours, a hot tub soon.
If it belongs to your mom, she might have the admin password.
they gave it to my mom in the box it was bought in
Scrubz - With fizzy water in a martini glass, all classy like?
Nah man, probably pizza.
where could she find it ill translate
kevin - A school gave it to your mom?
don't forget to waterproof your devices before going for a swim with them!!
yes i said it a few times now
even my 9 y/o niece knows that their chromebook is the school's property...
Ok. So it doesnt belong to your mom, it belongs to the school.
They don't come in with me, it's my peace away from technology.
And as we've said several time now, it's up to them as to what softwarer they allow on it
I'm very rural, hang on I'll upload my speed.
idk why they gave it to me if i cant even use what my teachers reccomend i can only use it for google classroom this is frustrating
if your teacher wants you to use anki, get them to facilitate the installation
Maybe it was only purchased to be used with Google classrooms.
i already asked my design tech teacher to ask and they didnt
I guess that's the end of the matter then ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Because the laptop was given to your mom by HER school for HER learning. If it was given to her from YOUR school for YOUR leanring, then thats a question to pose to your teacher 'Hey teach, you recommended Anki, but I can't install it on the chromebook - any advice?
no it was my school

