general

[rapid merlin]

Yeah

And he also has a mercedes

Don't believe wizard he's a larp

[rapid merlin]

I know you I know you, add me and chk our mutuals

Hahah

Funny

Nice moots

[rapid merlin]

Funny 🤣 right

Yeah bigmanskid is a cool guy

I forgot who j is

Nvm i know

[rapid merlin]

Thats my fav person on discord

[rapid merlin]

Good developer

[rapid merlin]

Yeah him and wizard are pretty cool guys

Haha thats funny

Never thought i'd see someone that knows them here

[rapid merlin]

Now we are good frnds right 😭

Yes besto friendo

[rapid merlin]

I know everyone one, I'm from good security background you kmoe

Not much com kid

[rapid merlin]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[rapid merlin]

Do you know of the chon's

[rapid merlin]

❤️

[rapid merlin]

Spelt wrong, most of them,
I know

Lol

[rapid merlin]

Harmless got termed again lamo

[rapid merlin]

Not sure

[rapid merlin]

Yeah poorguy

It'll be back soon

[rapid merlin]

It's back, he made new accountz

Im not in new server

[near hawk]

I guess this is a sign of I play too much

[sour ivy]

anyone who can help me with a ctf? dm pls

[near hawk]

Is it an active CTF?

[heady quartz]

hello can anyone help me understand hashing?

noob question: Whats the point of hashing when there are tools online that can reverse the hash? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Is this why "salting" is used? So the hash is non-reversible?

[devout tendon]

Hello i need help something that is personal it was not id hacking or related to that

[naive violet]

They're not reversible, that's a lookup table.
Salting prevents precondition where you build a table to look up the hash to password.

[heady quartz]

Okay so everytime I use a online reverse hash tool, it can find the password because its already stored in a table?

[naive violet]

Yes

[heady quartz]

and salting is a addon to a hash in case its already on a table??

[naive violet]

It prevents all of these precomputation attacks

[heady quartz]

but are salts like the same or are salts also hashes?

[sick lance]

Ask the question?

If we can help, we can.

[heady quartz]

ohhh this explains it well

[loud marlin]

salt is added to password then hashed and stored

[sick lance]

No need for the DM, just ask in here.

[heady quartz]

so salts are random values?

[devout tendon]

I am on app it has a prediction game of fruits how can i make it for mine

[loud marlin]

not random. you need to know/store salt or so to be able restore pass, so to say, in case you need it

[sick lance]

How can it predict which fruit you want?

Or do you want to claim the app?

🤔

[heady quartz]

ahh okay, but do we know for example the function for MD5 that makes the hash?

[loud marlin]

it can be some random thing, but it needed to be known

[heady quartz]

if we know the function for a hash, cant we reverse it?

[near hawk]

What do you mean?

[loud marlin]

if pre hash is not known then reverse is extremly hard

[devout tendon]

like i am on talk talk application a virtual application there is a game that we need to put coins for play so i wanna make it for me

[loud marlin]

point of hashing is to be fast in one way, but extra slow and pain in reverse it

[devout tendon]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mole.talktalk&hl=en&gl=US

this is the app link

[near hawk]

So you want to rig the game to get money?

[devout tendon]

i wanna to make that game

for my application

[sick lance]

Ah

You want to copy it, or create your own.

[devout tendon]

yes\

[sick lance]

Is this for homework?

[devout tendon]

not homework just my greedyness to learn

[sick lance]

Are you wanting users to use virtual, or real currency?

[loud marlin]

now... if you know all about the blender, salt and whatsoever before what it goes inside blender/function... tyou cant just get all it back in original state

[heady quartz]

When a password is on a "lookup table" that I can get by reversing a hash on a online tool. How did they find out the hash for a password?

[devout tendon]

as i am using that audio application we pay coins to play if we win we can send it and at the end of month we can get money

[loud marlin]

its stored in table

[heady quartz]

but is it because they compared two hashes and already had the password and then they get the same output hash?

[loud marlin]

29f2c1eae0b60c967c90f8513c871258 > delete all

[near hawk]

This might help you understand a bit better https://www.tiktok.com/@davidbombal/video/7341037322483420448?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

[loud marlin]

yes

and even slight change is another hash result

[heady quartz]

aahh

[loud marlin]

that tables we call rainbow table

[heady quartz]

okay now I fully understand stand

yeah I was looking at crackstation.net

and I guess they have a big rainbow table for passes

[loud marlin]

in gigbits sizes yea

every letter and so it have fixed lenght of hash

[heady quartz]

wow

I downloaded their wordlist but its in "MASM Listing" format or .lst

[heady quartz]

shouldnt this be in .txt

[loud marlin]

linux dont care for extension

[heady quartz]

i downloaded over windows

[loud marlin]

]

[loud marlin]

tht idk

all resutls have fixed lenght. so if you do not know of password or so pre hashed getting it back is extra hard

[heady quartz]

yeah I really understand how complex hashing can be now...

thanks for help 👍

[loud marlin]

now try to get this back

[heady quartz]

how??😆

[loud marlin]

that's the point

[heady quartz]

impossible

[loud marlin]

without bruteforce otr so yea

[heady quartz]

so can I use hashcat or john ripper for a simple hash reverse?

[loud marlin]

if you have years of you life yea... or good rainbowtable

then its fast

if prehash is in table

[heady quartz]

is rainbowtable same as wordlist??

[loud marlin]

now even if is in table and salt is added later then is even hard

[shell nova]

hashcat and john don't reverse, they just generate tons of hashes really fast and sees if they match

[loud marlin]

kionda

[heady quartz]

im trying to do this
Crack this hash: $2a$06$7yoU3Ng8dHTXphAg913cyO6Bjs3K5lBnwq5FJyA6d01pMSrddr1ZG

[naive violet]

https://www.techsolvency.com/passwords/dehashing-reversing-decrypting/#:~:text=If you could "reverse" a,not "reversing" the hashes.

[loud marlin]

wild Hydra appears from nowhere

[shell nova]

a rainbow table is a mapping between the hash and it's plaintext

[shell nova]

that's bcrypt, no?

[loud marlin]

hash/password

saved llike that in rainbow table

[simple valve]

is this your card

[loud marlin]

and program compare hash and if it finds it it spit out password

[simple valve]

https://tenor.com/view/xari-yugioh-card-gif-26550763

[loud marlin]

compare provided hash

[shell nova]

nope 😉

[heady quartz]

huh okay

[loud marlin]

and that's hydra 🙂

[heady quartz]

so If I find a matching hash, how can I recieve the password for it?

[loud marlin]

rainbow will show as result only

[heady quartz]

can I use hydra for cracking this hash?

[loud marlin]

kinda

[shell nova]

not easily, and very slowly I guess?

[loud marlin]

without good rainbow table is hard

[heady quartz]

if not hydra how would I crack this hash?

[shell nova]

it'll spit out the plaintext that generated the matching hash

go look up hash collisions

[shell nova]

so where is this hash from anyways?

[heady quartz]

tryhackme Task 5 in Hashing - Crypto 101

[shell nova]

tbh you want your salt to be unique for each entry in the table

[shell nova]

you'll probably want hashcat then

or john I guess

for bcrypt they're both equally slow

[wintry sluice]

sigh

[heady quartz]

im completely new to hashcat, how would my command look if I wanted to crack that hash?

knowing its bcrypt

[shell nova]

I'd look up the help page 🙂

[simple valve]

give me your fried chicken recipe hydra

[shell nova]

take chicken, flour, egg, breadcrumbs, then dump in fryer

[heady quartz]

I cant find bcrypt in Hash Modes

[shell nova]

cornflakes also work

[wintry sluice]

https://hashcat.net/wiki/doku.php?id=example_hashes

[shell nova]

gotta let them research, mate

but yeah that's a good reference

[wintry sluice]

I only know of that because THM told me about it

[simple valve]

if you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. if you teach a man how to fish, he will eat for a lifetime.

[heady quartz]

25600 then

[shell nova]

maybe, try it

[wintry sluice]

found where THM told me of that link
Task 4 of Hashing - Crypto 101 😛

[heady quartz]

Is this right? I put the hash in a txt file but it doesnt seem to work?

[heady quartz]

thanks

[violet thorn]

Any designers here??

Need a little review

[simple valve]

you need more RAM

[rapid merlin]

(its not my screenshot btw)

[rapid merlin]

So @heady quartz

I suggest you to crack on your host

[violet thorn]

Hello any help??

[rapid merlin]

Maybe there are no designers? ;p

[heady quartz]

how do I crack on my host? or add ram

[rapid merlin]

Install hashcat on your host pc

🙂

[violet thorn]

Can you suggest me some colours

[wintry sluice]

if its a VM, change the settings

[rapid merlin]

I am not a designer

Im sure there are discord servers for that

[violet thorn]

Still a review

[rapid merlin]

Sorry im at work mate

[violet thorn]

Ok np

Thanks

[chilly veldt]

Morning

[devout palm]

Mornin'

[heady quartz]

No hash-mode matches the structure of the input hash.

I keep getting this error on hashcat for this hash: $2a$06$7yoU3Ng8dHTXphAg913cyO6Bjs3K5lBnwq5FJyA6d01pMSrddr1ZG

[shell nova]

sounds like a job for google

[crude stump]

Ain’t a designer but my favorite color is blue

[heady quartz]

nothing tells me what hash type this is

[rapid merlin]

https://hashes.com/en/tools/hash_identifier

https://hashcat.net/wiki/doku.php?id=example_hashes

[crude stump]

Cooking up some hashbrowns

[junior wraith]

thats gonna be a good weekend

[heady quartz]

how do I cancel windows cmd hashcat?? i cant CTRL + C like linux 😆

nvm'

[rapid merlin]

was it ctrl c?

cuz i dont know either xd

[heady quartz]

yeah worked the second time

[violet thorn]

Lol that's helped a lot

https://fabulousman.netlify.app/

[crude stump]

Awsome

[violet thorn]

I have paste the link to my website

[atomic aurora]

Can anyone tell me what IS Management means in cybersec?

[near hawk]

Are you referring to information systems?

[atomic aurora]

I believe so yes!

This is a module in my study

and I was wondering what it will be

IS Management, mapping, authentication methods

[proven quartz]

1st of March and the first snow of winter just started falling

[rapid merlin]

damn

wow

[proven quartz]

Yeah at least it won't stick since it's been raining and temperature is about 4C

[rapid merlin]

Yeah its cold out here too

I just want sunnn

[proven quartz]

Haha best I've got is a nice toasty room with my laptop and a little hacking to be done

[atomic aurora]

Sorry for asking such a vague question but its all the information I have haha

[tired peak]

what is the context? Like where did you see that?

[simple valve]

Hi Zojja!

I have not seen you in a while

[near hawk]

@glass nest Pretty much almost fully recovered now, last week they measured the wound 1.5cm now they measured again today and now it's only about 3mm deep

[rapid merlin]

1.5cm deep??

[near hawk]

Yea had a back surgery which they leave it open, was originally 4cm

[simple valve]

what

[rapid merlin]

Wow

[simple valve]

they leave your back open?

[tired peak]

under the left side, it already says "Information Systems", they are being vague but I would take that to be various computing devices

[tired peak]

hey hey

[near hawk]

That was on 23rd Jan when I had it

[near hawk]

Yea an open wound surgery

[atomic aurora]

alr t hanks!

[simple valve]

ah alright, glad to hear you're almost fully recovered

what was the cause?

[near hawk]

It was an abcess that infected my tissue from 4cm deep 10cm long and 3cm wide

[fluid ember]

Hey guys thank you for having me here am New here and want to start my career in cybersecurity so am starting with the Tryhackme

Pre security course

[tired peak]

is that from the US? cuz I think Information Systems is an old term... like 40 years old, maybe something you saw in the 1980s/1990s

[tired peak]

welcome

[fluid ember]

Tryhackme is good to learn for someone starting out in cybersecurity right?

[tired peak]

yup

[fluid ember]

Thank you

Please where can I ask my question am finding something difficult

[tired peak]

#room-hints and #room-help are great places for when you are working through TryHackMe to ask for specific help

there is also #pre-security-legacy-path

[fluid ember]

Thank you 🙏

I can't upload a file?

[near hawk]

Have to verify

[sharp citrus]

Discord: How do I verify my TryHackMe account?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/6495858-discord-how-do-i-verify-my-tryhackme-account

Mar 1, 2024, 1:54 PM

[fluid ember]

Thank you 🙏

[sick lance]

Anywhere or DM's.

[tired peak]

when you type /verify, no one can see it here but you could DM the bot as well

[fluid ember]

Okay 👍

[sick lance]

Yet another beta invite for Arc...

[shut hawk]

Why did you sign up with so many emails lol

[sick lance]

I didn't, these are all the same E-mail...

[shut hawk]

But the invite is associated with the email?

[sick lance]

Yeah.

[shut hawk]

🤔 huh

[bitter quiver]

Speaking of email....I saw down and cleaned out my emal after 4 years

Took hours

Luckily you can bulk delete a lot of that crap

[sick lance]

I auto sort my folders.

[bitter quiver]

I have a few rules, but only for things I just need a record of but no tsee

[sick lance]

I have rules set up so the E-mail from x will go to folder x

[bitter quiver]

Now I just sit down once a day and clean it up

Granted this is my professional email

My old personal one I just need to napalm

[sick lance]

@shell nova I can see you 👀

[tired peak]

work automatically deletes our emails after 90 days

which is fun

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-confused-gif-7441776660901104597

[rapid merlin]

I should do that too xd

But i dont want to

[bitter quiver]

I segmented it. LIke an hour here, hour there. Eventually it got done.

Feels nice though

[rapid merlin]

Yeah fair

[chilly veldt]

Wayyyy too tired

[cosmic laurel]

I GOT THE JOB

You are speaking to a cyber sec anakyst

Analyst

[rapid merlin]

Congratz!

[tired peak]

awesome!!! Congrats!!!

[cosmic laurel]

thank you!!!!

I need some advice please

on the salary

[bitter quiver]

Congrats on that. The big success!

[midnight hazel]

i like arc tho

[cosmic laurel]

They offered me a base salary and a bonus based on performance. If I wanted to negotiate the salary for a little more how should I go about it? When the recruiter asked me for a minimum figure they offered me more than that already but I'm thinking 2-3k more.

[tired peak]

did you already accept the job? what is the job? whats the offer?

[cosmic laurel]

I didnt say anything to the recruiter yet

I said I need to check a few things

the job is junior information security analyst

[tired peak]

so what you could do, is say that you would want to counter. Did the job have a listed salary range?

[cosmic laurel]

no

[tired peak]

I mean, it wouldn't hurt to ask for more, worst that can happen is they say no

[bitter quiver]

You can generally search job title and by state

[cosmic laurel]

how should I ask nicely =]]

[tired peak]

I would just say that you would counter offer at (XX amount).

[bitter quiver]

If you find people in your region make more on average for said position, and the company isn't extremely small, you counter with the offer you want and also reinforce the transferrable skills and benefits you bring the company that really make it worth it.

[tired peak]

and I would also emphasize that you appreciate the offer, you are excited about the job but would like the amount you have determined. 2-3k won't make or break an offer

[bitter quiver]

Yeah if they like you, they like you. They generally pick you for a reason.

[cosmic laurel]

yeah Im thinking £3k more

[bitter quiver]

Least likely to murder me in my sleep

[cosmic laurel]

I asked chatgpt to create a message

[bitter quiver]

NO

lol

I mean it can give good ideas

But don't copy any of it. Write it in your own way

Give it that special spark of "you"ness. You are what sold them on hiring.

[cosmic laurel]

oh yeah I wasnt going to copy it ahhahaa

I just needed a starting point

[tired peak]

I'll also say ChatGPT messages are notably ChatGPT messages and don't seem human

[cosmic laurel]

Well I sent the email now

so we wait

if they so no

rip

[sick lance]

If they do take it on the chin.

I'm sure there is people who'd love to be in your position and possibly ask for less.

[bitter quiver]

Been a hiring manager for almost a decade and if a resume or response bores me it's not likely to overpower others.

[bitter quiver]

I didn't want to say that the true worst they could do is say no and move to another candidate.

I've taken a position for a title before, got that onto the resume, then moved on. But I'm old now.

No job is your last job.

[tired peak]

I'm a senior technical type, I do tons of resume reviews, luckily we haven't seen applicants using ChatGPT but for resume reviews online I've done, I see it a lot and its very noticeable

[bitter quiver]

Most people use GPT entirely wrong lol

It's a tool to enhance human creativity, not replace it

[tired peak]

yup

[sick lance]

I use Co-pilot for really stupid things.

[tired peak]

github copilot or the bing one?

[sick lance]

Bing one.

[tired peak]

the bing one is fun to play around with

[sick lance]

I like asking it really stupid questions.

And it gave me free keys for Windows 7/XP

[cosmic laurel]

I got a call from the recruiter to say why the sudden change in salary expectation

[bitter quiver]

I use Chat GPT-4 as a mini-dungeon master aid for enhancing my ability to adapt on the fly when my players do something really silly so I don't have to spend 5+ minutes getting stats together

Got a lil custom GPT for it

[tired peak]

and what'd you tell them?

I'm thinking of going to Trader Joe's to pick up some things for my husband and I's zoo trip today

[cosmic laurel]

I said I did a little bit more research about the average salaries and this offer that i gave them is still lower than average, she said that during the interviews etc I said minimum is x they offered me 3k more than x and now I asked for 3k more. I said it would be a fairer starting point for me

[tired peak]

thats a good answer

[cosmic laurel]

can they retract the offer because I asked for more money?

[bitter quiver]

Is this your first ever cyber security style position?

[tired peak]

I would've also probably thrown in "inflation"

[cosmic laurel]

im scared I fucked it now

[bitter quiver]

Yes

[cosmic laurel]

yes

[cosmic laurel]

oh yeah true

[tired peak]

they can retract the offer but most companies won't retract for 3k

[cosmic laurel]

fuck fuck

im scareddddddddddddddddd

[tired peak]

like if you had said 20k, maybe

[bitter quiver]

I've retracted offers for that exact thing actually

[sick lance]

Isn't this the UK though.

[tired peak]

its the UK

does the UK retract for counters?

[sick lance]

I'm not sure.

[cosmic laurel]

she asked me tho if id still be interested if they couldnt match that

i said yes

[bitter quiver]

That's a good sign

[bitter quiver]

They can if the offer wasn't already accepted

If it was accepted, no

[cosmic laurel]

im scared now tho I dont want them to retract it

[tired peak]

well they can but do they is the question

[cosmic laurel]

she went to relay the info to the manager

[bitter quiver]

I think you are right they shouldn't retract it

[tired peak]

like we wouldn't retract an offer for a few thousand

[bitter quiver]

But neither of us can speak for other companies

[sick lance]

I'm sure you'll be fine, just don't be dissapointed if the offer isn't matched.

[bitter quiver]

^

[tired peak]

huge jumps tho, we may be like "sorry we cannot meet this and we may not be the right company for you" OR I think HR has a little dance where they talk about bonuses and the "total value" of the position

[sick lance]

You have plenty of time for raises etc.

[bitter quiver]

Chin up

[cosmic laurel]

I won't have an issue if they offer isnt matched tbh

would of been nice for a little more but dont want them to retract it

lol

[tired peak]

I think it will be fine, don't stress

[sick lance]

But then, what do I know?

I just signed a contract today for some contract work...

So, techinally, this will be my first, unsure if I can list it as "experience" though.

[tired peak]

they may even do something like offer a small bump up like 500

[cosmic laurel]

this is so stressful

I was so happy a few mins ago now im stressed again

[sick lance]

Yeah, that's true. they might match 3k, but somewhere inside that.

[tired peak]

chin up

[sick lance]

As it stands, you have the job offer.

You took the chance to ask for more...

[tired peak]

I've had to advocate for myself with job offers before and yes its always stressful

[shut hawk]

Zojja, do you do recruitment?

[bitter quiver]

Good opportunity to learn to cope with stress/risk. Zen out and remember that no matter what, it isn't the end of anything

[desert shuttle]

i am stuck x2

[tired peak]

no, I'm on the technical side so I'm more involved in doing resume reviews / interviews

[shut hawk]

Ah, well I was wondering if it was normal for pattern recognition tests to be included in the application?

[tired peak]

when cyber managers are hiring for people

[shut hawk]

Like the square ones normally found in IQ tests

[sick lance]

Yes.

[tired peak]

oh no clue at all

really?

[sick lance]

many UK companies use this.

Especially banks.

[tired peak]

ahh I'm in the US

[cosmic laurel]

i sohuld of just taken the first offer hah

[tired peak]

nah you good

[bitter quiver]

All good.

[tired peak]

I wish I countered my first job offer but I didn't even know it was an option

[bitter quiver]

^

[cosmic laurel]

I just dont have anything to fall back on

they better not retract it

[rapid merlin]

Real

[bitter quiver]

I do however note that I'm far more likely to accept lower if it gets me specific experience/title.

A title on your resume can be more powerful than a degree

[sick lance]

@shut hawk

When I applied for Cyber and Security Analyst with Barclays, I was given 3 tests.

1 IQ, 1 personality and a mixture.

[bitter quiver]

Dafuq

lol

I wonder why.

[sick lance]

Aced all 3, then rejected me for being over qualified.

[shut hawk]

Personality test as in you get given questions and it's a "Strong agree, agree, disagree, strong disagree"?

[cosmic laurel]

should I just reply to her original email with the document she wanted me to fill in

[bitter quiver]

LOL

Oh god

Tale as old as time

[sick lance]

Yeah.

And

Scenario A is playing out, you're doing action B

Which is best

X / Y / Z

[shut hawk]

Fair enough

[bitter quiver]

Yeah I've done similar stuff, but never 3 things. Mostly just personality stuff.

But I'm in management. My actions can benefit a company, or royally fuck em

So I get it

I've done things with problematic employees where I position a lead across from us with a large window when I have difficult conversations just as a CYA

[glossy portal]

How would an IQ test or a personality test help for a cybersecurity position?

[sick lance]

Problem solving.

Especially on risks.

[glossy portal]

Are my certificates not proof enough?

[bitter quiver]

This, plus if you have tendencies to leave things alone

Unwillingness to confront an issue

[sick lance]

Do they prove you can problem solve, or retain information and act accordingly?

[glossy portal]

I think so, I studied for the exam, that means I must have at-least taken the time to understand what I was doing

[sick lance]

But that's my point though, you studied for an exam, IE you took data, remembered then answered questions.

IQ tests are usually "Which shape is next"

[glossy portal]

Makes sense, but don't you think a cybersecurity related test would suit best? Because I often see people correlate being good at chess with having high intelligence, but that is far from the truth

I'm seeing the same here

[shut hawk]

Yeah it's less of an IQ test and more of a pattern recognition test

IQ tests are meaningless anyway, you can train for an IQ test which basically defeats the purpose

[sick lance]

Cognitive!

I had one of those too

[rapid merlin]

that one was 20 right

or

what were the other answers?

[bitter quiver]

Dissapeared too fast, my brain slow

[shut hawk]

What type?

[glossy portal]

(Lookup Grandmaster Krammik for proof and lols 🤣 )

[bitter quiver]

Is that a pl

Ah had to click its a dvision sign

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[shut hawk]

Oh mathematics

[rapid merlin]

like i said

20

[sick lance]

Yeah, I was looking for example,s then found cognitive

[rapid merlin]

Funny thing is, after doing the test

You have to pay

-_-

[sick lance]

8 / 0.4 = 20?

[desert shuttle]

i had to do the same lol

[rapid merlin]

yes

[bitter quiver]

I had to do a combo of math tests in 2020 for a program.

Applied/Conceptual vs actual math. My actual math was trash, but my applied/concceptual was supurb.

I can't math on paper, but I can guesstimate exceptionally well.

[mossy river]

@rapid merlin Keep it PG13

[rapid merlin]

Kerberosting.

[sick lance]

The next position I apply hopefully won't.

But I'll have a Uni degree with it, so 🤞

[glossy portal]

Fingers crossed and lets go!

[desert shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/church-baby-praise-worship-feel-the-spirit-gif-5227476722541122452

[bitter quiver]

Non-professional rant

WHy is every PC game today 100GB+

I don't have this kinda space on my 2 SSDs

[desert shuttle]

should checkout vampire survivors

[glossy portal]

I'd say bad optimization and people just getting creative?

[bitter quiver]

Great game

[bitter quiver]

I lean more to that first.

COnsidering the massive detailed worlds people have made using less space. Lazy devs

In the 80s/90s devs were developing tricks to get more out of hardware limitations

Today so many just seem lazy.

[buoyant tree]

ah now everything's normal

detected something after 2 days

[bitter quiver]

I feel like if I knew my PC had a keylogger in a realsituation

I'd just write the weirdest Muppets/TMNT cross over fanfic stuff on it so that the perpetrator needs therapy.

[shut hawk]

So you can get stunning images like this

And of course discord screws it

[bitter quiver]

I make that joke because at one of my jobs around ~2013 we found an old word file on a network drive from a former employee that left scars on all of us lol

[bitter quiver]

What am I looking at?

[shut hawk]

Microsoft flight sim

[bitter quiver]

Haven't played it since 1998 so I don't know what may be off

[shut hawk]

The whole world data is actually 2 Petabytes that it streams from, but the game engine and models only take 150gb

[bitter quiver]

Oh wow

That's a lot of freaking data

But impressive that it flows nicely

[shut hawk]

Yeah it looks a lot more impressive now haha

[bitter quiver]

LIke no hiccups?

[shut hawk]

https://i.imgur.com/PbrDKdI.jpg

[bitter quiver]

Only flying I do is in Warthunder and sometimes that goofy engine decides "Your Tornado has decided to marry the ground"

[shut hawk]

Runs at around 50fps on my machine

[bitter quiver]

Gorgeous

[shut hawk]

Which is really really good considering the level of detail and realism

[bitter quiver]

Feels like a great way to meditate/relax

Pop on some nice headphones, turn down the lights, lay back and enjoy the view

[rapid merlin]

Jayy whats that qr in your bio xd

[shut hawk]

There's something called "VATSIM" which is basically simulated air traffic control, that's not so relaxing 😆

[shut hawk]

Look at the QR emoji names

[bitter quiver]

I've heard how calm those folks stay during emergencies. THose are special humans

I'd be stressed

[rapid merlin]

Ah

[shut hawk]

Yep they definitely are

A lot of things you need to manage while in that situation

There's a saying "Aviate, navigate, communicate" - this is the general order of actions when flying the plane

[bitter quiver]

I've always been an ERT member at every company, and helped out in some medical emergencies. But you get to wind down after. Those folk don't.

[bitter quiver]

My saying would be "Avoid the ground"

Professional the floor is lava

[cosmic laurel]

They came back to me

Accepted to offer me 2k more

[agile spoke]

h

[bitter quiver]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Get sum

[cosmic laurel]

But the iterated that there will be more expectations of me with thaf

That

[bitter quiver]

I wouldn't worry lol.

Your job is the same job

And remember this is just one job on your step to greatness.

[flat hamlet]

@shell nova New Dosh video is up, and i was a fool for thinking it couldnt get worse

[bitter quiver]

But congrats dude.

[cosmic laurel]

Thank you!!!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @bitter quiver (current: #605 - 6)

[cosmic laurel]

Apparently it went up to the head of it sec

[bitter quiver]

Shows they wanted you

Now get in there and show off

And remember the main part of any job

Is to learn

IMO

[bleak dagger]

after parents evening my school finally gave me a laptop

[sick lance]

You needed one?

[bleak dagger]

its a lenovo chromebook but im gratful because i can do some stuff without paying

[bleak dagger]

yeah for a couple years

i had to do my homework and stuff

at the school library

or an external one

and in general i was struggling without one

cause a lot of stuff i wanted to do i couldnt do

[sick lance]

Your own, or a borrowed one from school?

[bleak dagger]

a borrowed one

idk if i can tinkercad now

[shut hawk]

Nice! Use it well!

[bleak dagger]

yes i will download a lot of ram first

[rapid merlin]

xd

in that case, download an extra cpu too

[bleak dagger]

i should download storage then

a cpu and ram is a lot of gigs apparently

[rapid merlin]

yep, also necessary

[sick lance]

That escalated fast.

[rapid merlin]

xd

btw you should give your bank details to the ram /j

[bleak dagger]

ill send it to to you idk how to do it

[rapid merlin]

uhhh

i dont th-

[bleak dagger]

dms dw

yk when im old enough to access it i want a whole home lab and so many videogames and stuff its gonna be so fun

[rapid merlin]

Home server 😄

[bleak dagger]

yeah

maybe i could fit it in a honda jazz/fit and go on an adventure wouldnt that be cool

[rapid merlin]

or in a van

with an 5g antenne

[shut hawk]

@boreal scarab this is what I meant by my monitor boot sequence

[bleak dagger]

lol even better, starlink for remote places without coverage

[rapid merlin]

yeah that would be cooll

live in the van

3 monitor setup in the van

[bleak dagger]

and vr for ♾️ monitor setups

lol a car sim in a car would be ironic

[rapid merlin]

Vision Pro 2?!

Im curious how the vpro2 is gonna be

[bleak dagger]

probably like the vpro but better :p

[rapid merlin]

Smaller 😮

[bleak dagger]

actually knowing apple, maybe worse

[rapid merlin]

yeah im scared too

[bleak dagger]

its ok cause theres other options anyways

[rapid merlin]

rn, vision pro is easy the best on the market

[bleak dagger]

nothing really compares that well exept the like other high end industy optipns

[rapid merlin]

but too big and too heavy

[bleak dagger]

makes your neck stronger dw

[rapid merlin]

Max Verstappen 2.0

[bleak dagger]

haha

it would be good to intergrate with a helmet for racing sims

like actual gforce

[wild rose]

You watching f1 qualifying rn?

[rapid merlin]

wait is that rn

[wild rose]

Yup

[rapid merlin]

lol

didnt even know

[bleak dagger]

im not too into f1 but i think motorsports is something i will get into once i have time

im allways studying 😓

[rapid merlin]

Me too

Have to make a book assignment this evening

About Projekt 1065 from Alan Gratz

[wild rose]

Sports is one of my non-IT hobbies.

[bleak dagger]

IT is a sport dude

im watching the networking champions league rn

[brisk tree]

😂

[buoyant tree]

good idea but I would choose star trek and a x-files crossover, sadly this just me testing

[buoyant tree]

u sent this meme before

I know

[brisk tree]

When

😂

[buoyant tree]

idk how to do image search on discord

[brisk tree]

Must have been age ago

[buoyant tree]

yea

u sued ur boss yet

[crude stump]

🍿

[bleak dagger]

haha

[brisk tree]

I looked at all the images I sent never sent this before 😂

[brisk tree]

Not yet. He has an investor interested who wants to invest 100k so I’m wanting then suing cause then I’ll get the full amount before tax. If I sue right now all rhay will happen is he’ll lose his business and I won’t get my money back

[bleak dagger]

everyone who i study with uses discord, but after trying again and again i still cant install it

i found a way

[sick lance]

If you have restrictions on the laptop...

[bleak dagger]

i installed it anyways

[sick lance]

You can image search on mobile.

[bleak dagger]

the school can see but if they dont care enough to properly restrict they care enough to stop me

[wintry sluice]

you can also use discord dorking (has: image, from: <user>)

[bleak dagger]

idk why they made a maps profile of me... they must be tracking me !!1!!1

[bleak dagger]

nerd nerd nerd /j

[sick lance]

It's their property, they will want to track where it is.

[bleak dagger]

i clealry indicated i was joking and they legally cant through maps anyways but maybe through other non google services

[crude stump]

They can if you have there property on you

[sick lance]

How did I know you were joking?

[sick lance]

You can track devices via Google...

[bleak dagger]

1!1!!1!

[sick lance]

I just assumed you couldn't hold shift properly 🤷‍♂️

[bleak dagger]

you two dont understand

[sick lance]

P.s

Jokes ate supposed to be funny...

Are*

[wintry sluice]

lol

[crude stump]

Understand what

[bleak dagger]

theres laws

that protect childrens data

it goes to the school first then google

[crude stump]

Obviously but if you have a Chromebook that is run by the school they can still track google maps. Google maps has nothing to do with private data

[bleak dagger]

still track google maps ?

[crude stump]

Yes

[bleak dagger]

what

[crude stump]

?

Nvm

Idk what your talking about now

[bleak dagger]

english isnt my first language but even i know this is somehow wrong

[crude stump]

Uh huh

Well all I know is it’s not against the law to track your own property aka the schools stuff

Plus most schools make the students sign a contract that gives them permission to do alat

[boreal scarab]

Mfer loading line by line

[sand trench]

YAWN

[bleak dagger]

where are your manners

[sand trench]

somewhere

[bleak dagger]

and you talk back ?

discraceful

[sand trench]

shadow is lucky to not be homeless if that is what you are afer

[midnight hazel]

eee ooo

thank you @midnight hazel

[midnight hazel]

thanks

ok

so no rep for me

[wintry sluice]

you are not worthy

[sick lance]

Check yourself before you fail to rep yourself.

[boreal scarab]

-rep bad trader.

What should I have for lunch?

[bitter quiver]

Mediterranean

Rice bowl with hot gyro meat, some hummus, babba, pickles

[chilly veldt]

Rye bread with liver paste

[bitter quiver]

Now I'm hungry

[wintry sluice]

cheese

just cheese

[boreal scarab]

Jokes on you, I love liver.

[wintry sluice]

if you lover, why don't you liver wither

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[shut hawk]

just me or the new google signin kinda...meh?

[chilly veldt]

Same, it's a Danish lunch food

[shut hawk]

don't really see a reason to change it, and I think this is way to sparse

[wintry sluice]

that's new?

[shut hawk]

yeah

[shut hawk]

old

[wintry sluice]

they're the same picture

[bitter quiver]

Like modern art

https://tenor.com/view/art-modernart-nochill-reallythough-funny-gif-4621518

[boreal scarab]

Just bought 9 oz of liver spread for $9.... I hate this economy

[sand trench]

1 usd a made up unit

[boreal scarab]

Sorry Swedish KronA... I can't hear you over Norwegian KroneE!

[sand trench]

a made up unit was refering to oz but okay

[boreal scarab]

[compact yoke]

yo

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[buoyant tree]

I don't know how a investor will invest in his business

[wintry sluice]

kg are made up too. entirely arbitrary amount

[sand trench]

nah a kilogram is 1 litre of water

very logical

[wintry sluice]

nah, you can't piggyback off other units

also, not true

[sand trench]

fair enoughs

Kilograms is a god unit as it is part of the SI units

[wintry sluice]

its also kinda arbitrary though

The new definition relates the kilogram to the mass equivalent of the energy of a photon at a specific frequency.

[bitter quiver]

Forsake tradition, measure things with random objects. "It's 3 bananas long by 2 iphones wide"

[sand trench]

at least that is defined with scientific things which are none changing unless the universal laws gets changed

[buoyant tree]

@bitter quiver buying helldivers 2 atm

[bitter quiver]

Which is technically possible with the right unimaginable cataclysmic universal event

[bitter quiver]

It's so GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

[buoyant tree]

my cart atm

[bitter quiver]

Ayo Bullet Storm, Mad Max are solid as well

Bullet Storm is great 1990s style chaos fun

That's a solid set. I've never been able to enjoy the DMC style combat that Bayonetta hailed from. I know it's good, just not my genre.

[buoyant tree]

yup just got my payment for a website

so now time for shopping

[bitter quiver]

Very nice. Time for rewarding the hard work

[buoyant tree]

yea, currently helping the client set the website up on his own server

but hes not techy

so my head hurts being tech support

[bitter quiver]

Yeah. Change how you phrase everything and giving each task/item a "relatable" term.

[buoyant tree]

yup

[bitter quiver]

Energy consuming

[buoyant tree]

its a daily task for me, tech guy in the family

[bitter quiver]

I'm the tech guy of mine, but I just pretend I don't know anything

[buoyant tree]

good idea

actually super smart one

[bitter quiver]

Yeah lol. Only person I'm obligated to help is the wife.

I can't hide from her

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[bitter quiver]

Usually it's easy stuff though

btw the cool way Helldivers do their battle pass things is

They never expire

They just plan to gradually add content, but you can always slowly just get whatever

None of that anxiety inducing Play only me for 3 weeks or miss out low grade stuff

And as a married adult working full time and studying a few hours a day

I appreciate it

[wintry sluice]

OMFG I WANT TO MARRY THEM

is this the end of FOMO???

[sick lance]

Blue team room.

[shut hawk]

Ooooo what a unique room

[wintry sluice]

does it come with a heavy metal badge?

[sand trench]

wanna see some crazy tech some people made???

https://gamescent.com/

[graceful thistle]

that...

sounds horrific

[sand trench]

yeah it is meeping smellivision

[bitter quiver]

Huh

Reminds me of the gun that could smell enemies we invented for Vietnam

Weird tech

[sand trench]

so who here is gonna go out and spend 150 usd to buy a gamescent????

[wintry sluice]

google did this years ago (Google nose)

[sand trench]

yes but that was not based on the sound from the games meaning it needed special development to work

[wintry sluice]

true ||and it was also a prank||

[chilly veldt]

Sup sup

[sand trench]

ello bella

we discussing smellovision

[chilly veldt]

Nice, I ditched the work party to go work out

[loud marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-no-comment-okay-jason-bateman-gif-13712743

[mossy river]

Coventry is hell rn

Its like everyone is in a mood at the same time

[chilly veldt]

Healthy living > socially drinking

[loud marlin]

aaand how much of energy driink you take today ?

[chilly veldt]

None!

[loud marlin]

Lie!

🙂

[chilly veldt]

I've drank 2 redbulls, but I didn't take them

[loud marlin]

listen here you little sh***

hehhe

[chilly veldt]

But we never skip leg day here

[loud marlin]

ofc not... every day you can run from problems

[mossy river]

It is leg day here, we definitely skip leg day

[sand trench]

so you skip arm day
or do you skip neck day
????

[thorn junco]

I just completed room/rustscan, and "Task 3 Accessible" stood out to me:
"Click 'completed' if you agree A11Y in infosec is important."
I very much dislike these mandatory political positions, and having to agree with the author to "complete the assignment", so to speak, to get the grade.
What's next? Diversity, equity, inclusion? Can't we just keep the politics sort of on the side, sort of opt-in?

[chilly veldt]

Smh

[chilly veldt]

I do skip arm day

[mossy river]

It is not necessarily political though?

It is inclusivity.

[thorn junco]

@Jared It is.

[mossy river]

No it is not, do you know what A11Y is?

[chilly veldt]

I like being included in things

[mossy river]

A11Y means accessibility.

[thorn junco]

Of course.

[mossy river]

So no it is not political.

[sand trench]

making it so blind and deaf people can enjoy internet content

[thorn junco]

@Jared I disagree with your position.

[mossy river]

And you are taking a really bad stance right now.

You are welcome to disagree but at the end of the day it is a fact.

[thorn junco]

It's politics, because we disagree.

[mossy river]

That is not politics.

[thorn junco]

You can't redefine politics as morality, as a means to fixate some social change.

[mossy river]

This conversation needs to end. If you do not want learning to be accessible to people who suffer disabilities, please submit it to the #feedback-and-ideas form.

[chilly veldt]

One thing I hate about leg workouts is glute kickbacks

[thorn junco]

My position is a lot more nuanced than "not wanting education to be accessible" to people who suffer disabilities. But I will refrain from pursuing the subject in this forum. You are the mod, and I have no authority here.

[mossy river]

I hate that leg day lacks chest

[wintry sluice]

what is this leg day?

[mossy river]

A day for gym people where they only do legs

It is the worst day

[chilly veldt]

Like especially when you can't change the height of the box you lay on, cause it hits my stomach in the wrong height so it feels like I am getting punched

[compact yoke]

im boutta hit a clip

[bleak dagger]

leg day is my favourite

[proven quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/grym-fail-leg-day-fall-flip-clumsy-gif-11658828

[bleak dagger]

btw i use cheetos deoderant

[compact yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-watermelon-cat-watermelon-cat-meme-meme-cat-meme-gif-5861810292592255483

[sick lance]

At this point, I think you're just being a poor troll

[royal dock]

whats good chat

are we all skibidi toilet!

[sick lance]

General is going to go on one, I'm leaving

[royal dock]

[bleak dagger]

why did you ask this

[sand trench]

human trebuche

[bleak dagger]

i think he has potential

[proven quartz]

Implemented!

[valid sandal]

Question to the people not using the AttackBox. What is your setup? Bare metal install on an omd laptop or is VM the way to go?

[naive violet]

Kali VM is what I'd recommend

[molten sky]

^

this

[sand trench]

kali vms all the way down

[royal dock]

are you a sigma

[wintry sluice]

I am not a greek letter, no

[royal dock]

del 2010 laptop

[bleak dagger]

ye

[royal dock]

[royal dock]

only in ohio! my fellow sigma

[naive violet]

@royal dock Hey, let's not.

[valid sandal]

Okay great, been struggling for a week trying to get either Kali or ParrotOS to dualboot on my 2017 macbook pro. Seems like i will have to give kali VM a go then hahah

[royal dock]

what the hell did i do

[bleak dagger]

stop flirting

[royal dock]

sorry kevin

[royal dock]

kali is good

[bleak dagger]

youre turning general on keep it for dms

[royal dock]

yes my sigma king

[bitter quiver]

Dual booting is fun, but I'd just do a VM for now.

[wintry sluice]

ngl, phi's are golden

theta's are acute

[loud marlin]

dualboot is nice but it can lead to full lost of data

[bitter quiver]

Also the only time I tried to dual boot with a Mac it was just issues.

Could be I was allergic to Apple

Me either lol

[valid sandal]

It works more or less, but things like palm rejection while typing and weird scaling are really frustrating me

[bitter quiver]

I know college frat stuff, but I don't know anything outside of Phi Theta Kappa honor society

Because I got into it like 17 years ago for a year

Before I became dumber

[valid sandal]

But don’t know if those things are actually better in VM or more of the same issue

[wintry sluice]

🤦‍♂️
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

[graceful thistle]

in Dutch 'kappa' means an arrogant person (slang)

haha

[buoyant tree]

hullo

Dolphin I start DMC5 today

[graceful thistle]

nice 🔥

how is it so far

[buoyant tree]

eh going to start in 6 hours ~

Me busy atm

Been planning to play it

[bitter quiver]

Welp here goes 2 hours of my life on WIkipedia again

[buoyant tree]

got time reserved

[sand trench]

in japanese a kappa is a type of yokia

[buoyant tree]

nobody's gonna distract me

[graceful thistle]

ah I see

[cosmic laurel]

I still cant believe I got the job

[bitter quiver]

Too many formulas

[graceful thistle]

congrats 😄

[bitter quiver]

Brain pain

[cosmic laurel]

3days wfh

2 days in the office

[cosmic laurel]

thank you!

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @graceful thistle (current: #22 - 351)

[bitter quiver]

Very nice! That was my setup as well until I finally just this week secured 5 day wfh

[mossy river]

Who's going to tell you it's being removed

[bitter quiver]

Get a refund on your thankfulness

[molten sky]

glares over at windows

[molten sky]

treason

[loud marlin]

kali is not stable OS so to say. it can do crap things if dual boot

[bitter quiver]

Some folks are also surprised to realize that Kali linux is not secure really

[sick lance]

Wat?

[mossy river]

This is wrong

[molten sky]

eh

[mossy river]

This has been disproven SOOO many times

[loud marlin]

like, not secure as in ?

[sick lance]

Kali is secure from the get go.

[molten sky]

even if it's not blatantly insecure, it's not secure

it's not designed to be

[sick lance]

Providing you don't use kali:kali or root:toor

[sand trench]

ubuntu server is worsely secured by default then kali

[loud marlin]

admin:admin

[molten sky]

(comparing it to, say, debian proper)

[bitter quiver]

Maybe I've been lied to and believed dem lies

I'll dive more into it

[mossy river]

Let me get an article for you, hol' up

[sand trench]

*mostly because ssh is enabled and there is not a lot of security features implemented at the start

[bitter quiver]

Hit me with the word page

[mossy river]

That doesn't mean Kali is vulnerable

That's like me opening all my ports and going "omggg this OS is so vulnerable"

[wintry sluice]

I've only heard people call it unstable before.

[loud marlin]

and then ytou have this guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcMf5SJOV-Y&t

[bitter quiver]

Don't talk about me like that

[chilly veldt]

Oh yeah, Ramadhan starts in a little over a week

[bitter quiver]

[sick lance]

Because it is.

[molten sky]

this is it. people hear "kali is insecure" and think we mean "you're gonna get hacked right away and lose everything!"
that's not what we mean for the most part

[mossy river]

@bitter quiver https://blog.spookysec.net/kali-ootb/

[molten sky]

the OS isn't designed to be daily driven so security isn't as critical

it's designed to be disposable

[sick lance]

Spooky is ignoring me.

[bitter quiver]

I'll read through it. I appreciate it

[loud marlin]

kali is secure as it can be... stable to be used as main os... not so much

[sick lance]

They're literally the only reason I'm in the off sec server

[molten sky]

when we say kali is insecure we mean in comparison to the alternative, not that kali is dangerous

not really. quarterly "stable" releases under deb sid

stable with quotes

deb sid being unstable/rolling itself

[bold latch]

Anything is secure if you harden it

[molten sky]

if

[loud marlin]

i never had issue of using it as bare metal on spare laptop. but regular backup is must due to full disk encryption

[bold latch]

And 90% of things are insecure if you do not

[bitter quiver]

Makes sense, but the final line of it was ominous loll "and don’t store any sensitive data (long term) on your Kali machine and you will be perfectly fine."

My view point was from a daily driver perspective

[molten sky]

sure. but we're comparing out of the box here

[mossy river]

It's a pentesting OS, you're not meant to daily drive it

[bitter quiver]

I know this

[bold latch]

That "if" is entirely pivotal, nothing in the history of things has been properly secure out of the box

[loud marlin]

don't store any sensitive data on pc at all. get external disk and do backups

[mossy river]

Still doesn't make it an insecure Operating System, just means you're making it insecure

[bitter quiver]

I keep a flock of cycling carrier pigeons that each hold part of a system of M.2 SSDs that I have in a striped raid partition.

[bold latch]

There is such notoriety in how insecure defaults are, its a surprise anyone can expect a system to be secure "out of the box"

[mossy river]

You can do the same on any OS, this is why you should learn proper practices from the ground up.

[molten sky]

it comes with a ton of software that's not as frequently patched --- out of the box, it's arguably much less secure than debian out of the box

[crude stump]

Ahoy

[molten sky]

that doesn't mean unsafe

but when compared, less secure

[mossy river]

That's why you keep it on a VM.

[bitter quiver]

My entire concept was if John Doe booted it up, it's less secure than almost anything else he can use.

Everyone here knows a bit more

[mossy river]

Literally everything you're saying just tells me that you don't follow proper security practices. It's the same as people who run as root and say "I know what I'm doing, I just don't care"

[molten sky]

yes. we're talking about the average user.

[bitter quiver]

I've only ever ran kali on a VM, same with Parrot. Except for testing Kali on a pi.

[molten sky]

as an os, kali doesn't have as many protections while also having more holes.

[mossy river]

Netcat is installed on most UNIX systems, that is what you use to open the insecure connection.

[molten sky]

we know about that, but the average user may not

[crude stump]

👀

What’s goin on in here

[molten sky]

stuff

[crude stump]

I see

[mossy river]

Go on, elaborate, what holes

[bleak dagger]

your pfp is a helmet so you race

[loud marlin]

@glass nest LP laser got big update... from 2k mm/s to 4k mm/s.... it's freaking nice

[molten sky]

tons of rarely or slowly patched software would be an example

[mossy river]

Like?

[molten sky]

man idk i don't keep a mental roster of every program that comes with kali, lol
but it's loaded with tools with single maintainers who have lives and can't patch things on the drop of a hat
which is fine, because it's meant for people who have an understanding of security -- but if one of those tools has a hole, the average person isn't as equipped

[crude stump]

ITS FRIDAY

[molten sky]

purely comparing attack surface

[mossy river]

If this is such a problem, you would immediately have a list.

You're arguing with literally no backing

[molten sky]

not really, cause it's not a problem for me

not something i'm concerned about

[mossy river]

Suure.

Don't argue if you don't actually have the facts.

[molten sky]

you disagree that a larger attack surface poses more risk?

[mossy river]

No, I disagree with the fact that you're arguing without any backing.

[molten sky]

not really. i'm literally just saying bigger attack surface = more risk.

[mossy river]

No you refused to provide any list because you don't know

[molten sky]

i've even agreed that it's not neccessarily unsafe, just that it's not as safe as deb proper

[mossy river]

You're arguing for the sake of arguing.

[molten sky]

because said software is a nonconcern [to my use]

not sure how one could disagree with a larger attack surface = more risk, even if the risk doesn't mean immediate death

[small light]

dude you're making no sense my guy

[crude stump]

I understand him

[chilly veldt]

Jabbaaaa, I hit a new leg press PR

[sand trench]

5 metric tons????

[small light]

I mean if you make a statement like that I wold think you would have proof to back it up,

[crude stump]

Oh

[small light]

just saying

[chilly veldt]

No no, I have to take care of my bad knee, so only 160kg with 10 reps

[molten sky]

you need proof that having two servers is more risk than having one server? or that driving 100 miles is more risk than driving 50?

[wintry sluice]

1.6tns???

[molten sky]

it's exposure

[small light]

actually having one server is more of a risk

[crude stump]

Bigger the city, the harder for police to police it

[mossy river]

frr

[chilly veldt]

I guess, times 2 sets

[small light]

If you are a smart IT you have redundancy. Never single threaded

[midnight hazel]

oh oh ozempic

[crude stump]

I’m what way?

[mossy river]

So don't join the discussion if you literally have no idea.

You said that software caused security holes and then said that you aren't concerned by it? Like fr? Are you srious?

[crude stump]

Love that jingle

[molten sky]

stability is a different convo. we're talking about attack surface

[small light]

if that server Fails you are l Fooked

[midnight hazel]

yo @crude stump u think if i ask thm support nicely they will give me the username i want

[small light]

Well even attack surface you want to have a fail back

[crude stump]

Definitely

I got my username changed by em

[midnight hazel]

really?

[molten sky]

idk how y'all don't get the concept of attack surface

[crude stump]

Yes

[midnight hazel]

damn k i ask

[midnight hazel]

how tho?

[midnight hazel]

i am happy to know that i know that

[small light]

I get the concept of attack surface I don't know how yo udon't udnerstand fall back

[crude stump]

When your on the website you see the little thm cloud thingy at the bottom left

Click that

[mossy river]

No, we do not change usernames of existing accounts.
If you username is not already taken, then yes we will.

[small light]

Sure you might have more of a risk, becasue multiple attack vectors and such. but you ar ein idiot if you have just one server

[molten sky]

more things on a system that the average user will never use = more unnecessary risk

[mossy river]

Huh?