general

[boreal scarab]

Test

[rapid merlin]

Test received

[boreal scarab]

Test Successful.

[rapid merlin]

Session closed

[glossy portal]

Press enter to exit...

[near hawk]

Yea but it was 2 pieces probably because it’s organic one

[sick lance]

Thighs, breast?

was is sold as KG?

Cell carrier could be down?

[mossy river]

Had a call from my service provider, they were so sweet they were going to upgrade me to their new service for free 🥰

[deft bobcat]

What service?

[sick lance]

That's nice of 'em.

[deft bobcat]

You mean fiber internet?

[proven quartz]

It affected about 50,000 people

[mossy river]

He asked for my details so I wasn’t sure, gave them a fake email address and they inserted it into the recovery page to try and migrate me to their new service 🥰

He really switched up when I told him I was going to log into his server’s call centre 🥰🥰🥰

[deft bobcat]

Jesus can you stop with the emojis

Or else I will

[mossy river]

He wouldn’t tell me how much commission her got per scan so I told him I’d find out 🥰

[sick lance]

[deft bobcat]

Emojis are really cringe

[mossy river]

Please don’t joke about suicide. And no, I won’t stop with the emojis.

I’m not breaking the rules and you’re rude.

[mossy river]

Literally in the Fortnite lobby 🤓

[rapid merlin]

personal attack fallacy ( 🙂 )

But i didnt know people still play fortnite either

[crude stump]

Another person asked the same question

[mossy river]

In play Fortnite. I can play it and it still be cringe

[rapid merlin]

It is

[crude stump]

I love fortnite 🤣🤣🤣

[proven quartz]

Never played fortnite but until that game came out, most Americans had never heard that word

[rapid merlin]

Peeps, i just read about downgrade attacks. Is it possible to do a downgrade attack from 4g/5g to 2g/3g?

[split compass]

One of my coworkers did mention cell service being down in Teams.
Asked how other coworker will access their Tesla.
I told them they have to use an RFID card like they're badging in.

[near hawk]

I remember they did an interview asking them if they knew what it meant and nono of them onew

[chilly veldt]

[rapid merlin]

Thats funny, you cant enter your car because you have no internet

[split compass]

@rapid merlin to understand cellular outages, you need only think of network outages, like the big facebook outage from a few years ago due to a bad route push.
Because the phone network works on extremely similar principles.
A series of routers, routing tables, and inter-carrier connections.

[crude stump]

https://www.techradar.com/news/live/att-verizon-tmobile-down-live-blog

[chilly veldt]

Sounds #advanced-general

[rapid merlin]

Sounds 🔒 no access

:p

[crude stump]

I don’t think it’s a attack on there infrastructure. I pretty sure they would immediately tell the public if that’s the case

[chilly veldt]

Advanced topic

[rapid merlin]

Yeah agreed

[chilly veldt]

Aka, if you had access there I could have answered your question😅

[rapid merlin]

I need to get some more points 😄

[rapid merlin]

😦

You shouldnt have told me that

xd

[split compass]

Those are wireless signal protocols, not security protocols.
Additionally, those are in some cases, fundamentally dissimilar technologies.

[chilly veldt]

Just makes you more eager to get there!

[spice adder]

Thats some Bell-Lapadula model stuff

[chilly veldt]

Uhmm, akchually, each have their own security levels

[polar spoke]

we doing incredibly illegal attacks on cell infrastructure in here?

[sick lance]

No, there is speculation.

[polar spoke]

sounds fun 😎

[rapid merlin]

We arent

[spice adder]

https://tenor.com/view/fed-spotted-goku-son-goku-meme-gif-13306343723370401392

[polar spoke]

can have a little felony

as a treat

disclaimer: don't mess with cell tech or other wireless stuff, especially in reach of the FCC

[split compass]

Watch it be something like an inter-op issue where Kamilio based SIP routers and SER based SIP Routers have decided they don't like speaking the same language anymore.

[polar spoke]

oh the outage?

[spice adder]

Or do anything with RF signals in the UK, unless you want men in suits to come to your door

[polar spoke]

AT&T outage is, at least per the rumors i've heard, related to a SIM card registration database or something

[split compass]

Ah, that'd make sense too.

[polar spoke]

some system that tracks valid SIMs failed and now they aren't being allowed to connect to towers

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, sounds like it

[polar spoke]

we'll see how true that is but that's what i've heard so far

[split compass]

I haven't seen the issue from the user perspective, but if its failing to connect to the tower at all, then auth-failure makes the most sense.

[polar spoke]

i'm currently out on multiple devices

complete failure, not just like "connect and go nowhere"

so i agree, feels like the SIM thing makes the most sense

[split compass]

Come up here and chill in my office eh? 🇨🇦

[polar spoke]

i'm on AT&T fiber and still have internet but AT&T cell service has been completely out since early this morning

Sprint and other links are all up for me so seems to be specific to the carrier

[rapid merlin]

Is ATT the biggest ISP out there?

[split compass]

They're large, I'm trying to pull up a list of their MVNOs now

[polar spoke]

AT&T is fastest/most reliable in the city for me

but they start to fall off out in the country, verizon seems to hold up a bit better in the rural areas around me

sprint is... kinda mediocre at all of the above

easy fix: have multiple carriers 🙂

[rapid merlin]

mhh

[split compass]

I was working for Sprint when they acquired... Nextel? I think it was.

iPhone OG release days.
Gods those were terrible devices.

[desert shuttle]

If only i could buy the world with a gift card

[split compass]

419 Scammers would have you believe its possible 😉

[chilly veldt]

I run with multiple carriers per country I go to, changes, if I can't connect to one it connects to another

[polar spoke]

yuuuup

or get a little cradlepoint or something and mux them all into a hotspot

mux feels like the wrong word but i think it makes sense

[chilly veldt]

my simcard does it automatically

[polar spoke]

ahh nice

[chilly veldt]

yee

oh well, back to filling in our inventory overview, I got like 40 devices written down already

[bitter quiver]

Doing a fresh PC instlal feels like taking a long hot shower in winter

[hearty gull]

How hard is an NTLMv2 hash to crack i think its spelled like that? Or is it some technique to display each character from an hash?

[mystic ginkgo]

This may be a celestial attack:
https://www.space.com/sun-2-solar-flares-february-22-2024-cell-phone-outages

[sick lance]

Why do you ask?

[polar spoke]

How long is a piece of string?

[chilly veldt]

How long is your patience?

[hearty gull]

Well i am wondering

[bitter quiver]

I remember an instructor telling me everything can be hacked. No exception. The security comes from the fact that it would just take several thousand years in some cases.

[sick lance]

If you don't want it to be hacked, don't put it on a network 🤓

[hearty gull]

Oh idk really probably 100 maybe or more

[polar spoke]

Then there's your answer 🙂

[bitter quiver]

You never know when a man in black tights is going to rappel down the wall of your server room man.

[hearty gull]

48 or 128 bit

Says chat

[bitter quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-impossible-tom-cruise-breaking-in-break-in-im-in-gif-15687772

[sick lance]

We're doing SoC class, and people are posting malicious links without defanging them 💀

[polar spoke]

but in all seriousness, there's no way to reference how hard some individual hash will be to crack

you could get a contextual understanding of how slow it is to attack, which might give you some indication of how much you can try

[bitter quiver]

LOL that's kinda great though

[polar spoke]

but that's still not quite the same

[bitter quiver]

No better way to learn than being thrown in the pool

[sick lance]

I've switched to my VM for this class 😂

[bitter quiver]

Wise

[polar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/click-the-link-click-it-visit-the-site-visit-the-website-click-gif-18523451

[bitter quiver]

Which reminds me, anyone ever use POP! OS?

[hearty gull]

But a tool that cracks by rhe alphabet? Like compares it to an letter and then completes the hash and the text would not be possible or? Does an hash have different building and different characters depending on the client lets say robert has the letter G and roberts hash is leelekdj@3kr:2kr and john has the letter G also but its alot different?

Let me now if i suck at explanation

[polar spoke]

so, there's something important to note here

99.99999% of hashing algorithms are all or nothing

[bitter quiver]

A hash isn't specific to the letter. G isn't G in a hash.

[polar spoke]

you can't crack "each letter"

[bitter quiver]

^

You are thinking of normal hand done ciphers

[hearty gull]

That answeat was what i was looking for

Cause then it would be really easy if you got an hash

[polar spoke]

now, with that in mind, no major determinations can be made about the algorithm's strength or a specific hash or password's strength

[bitter quiver]

Also technically, you can have two hashes that have the same hash but different content if I recall depending on how it's done.

[polar spoke]

"password" is still getting cracked in <1 second, regardless of hashing algorithm

so saying a hash is "hard to crack" will have little meaning if the password is "password"

[hearty gull]

Ofcourse but these google auto generated passwords are impossible to crack like rhey got so many letters and things

[bitter quiver]

I just user a password manager with a nice password on it

Paid

[polar spoke]

perhaps

making a password that is impossible is both deceptively easy and also somewhat difficult for people

it's really really easy to make passwords that can't be cracked by anyone, regardless of hash types

[bitter quiver]

Are some companies still doing the 15 letter minimum "phrases" vs a password?

[polar spoke]

oh dude, you have no idea how bad the landscape is

[bitter quiver]

Or did that die off after 2018

[polar spoke]

everyone is wrong about passwords and hashing still

[bitter quiver]

2FA life

[polar spoke]

literally no understanding or nuance whatsoever

2FA still bad too unfortunately :/

what consitutes a "factor" is lost on many

[hearty gull]

It feels like some peoples passwords is to obvious the thing you always hear but the thing you never think of like fotball or something lmao

[bitter quiver]

I mean for normal people like us it's fine, we generally aren't worth the resources to overcome 2fa

C level folk are not safe

[polar spoke]

no one is safe from a LOT of things, re: token theft, for example

but yeah, MFA/2FA is still bad, passwords are far worse

[bitter quiver]

Tolkien would just send the orcs after them

[polar spoke]

and i have no idea how

its sooooo easy to handle secrets and passwords in a way that makes them incredibly secure

but it seems like everyone is very resistant to it

[bitter quiver]

Because it's impossible outside of physical security keys that are heavily watched to be truly secure in a world with so many tools.

The error is almost always with the fleshy meat sack using the equipment.

[polar spoke]

mix that with really bad understandings of recommendations that lack nuance and poor highschool math and it just kills any hope i have for security lol

[bitter quiver]

JohnDoe1972 best password

[polar spoke]

lool

[shut hawk]

it baffles me as to why people use their password manager as their 2FA provider

[hearty gull]

I have so fucking hard math in school

[bitter quiver]

Now THAT I wouldn't do.

[polar spoke]

yuuuuupppp

that entirely defeats the purpose of a Second factor

[hearty gull]

I have PQ formula and things really hard

[polar spoke]

also, people treat their second factors like they are strong pubkey crypto with no faults

TOTP codes, for example, are PRIVATE info

and do not magically "expire" into nothing after their use

[bitter quiver]

I've had my 2FA save my Origin account a few times when someone from Russia kept trying to log in lol

[polar spoke]

lol

[hearty gull]

Btw how did this Mother Of All Breaches happend twitter linkedin and everything shouldnt that be super secure

[bitter quiver]

It's always a Russian or an Indian, no offense

[polar spoke]

ignore any/all coverage of this

[hearty gull]

Turkey

[polar spoke]

it's almost all nonsense

[bitter quiver]

Don't make me hungry

Turkey is just fancy Russians

[hearty gull]

No Turkey 🇹🇷

[bitter quiver]

I kid

[hearty gull]

They tried to login to my google account many times and the island idk what it called like somahoma

Somaliland

That what it valled

[bitter quiver]

Somalia?

First they pirate the waters, now the web! Where is the Spanish Armada when you need it

[hearty gull]

But really it feels like every company is secure but the swedish church here got hacked lmao like the church in sweden its really weird

[polar spoke]

every company is secure

I see you haven't worked for many large companies recently

[hearty gull]

I am 16 so i dont get job

[polar spoke]

yeah, i have some bad news about that then

many companies are.... perhaps not up to the standards everyone might assume

[lone thistle]

👀 #announcements message

[buoyant tree]

what could this mean

[sick lance]

I knew it!

[lone thistle]

all imma say is make sure you bring your terminal and some popcorn

[shell nova]

No comment

[polar spoke]

lol

[hearty gull]

Hmm thats why they need us then i assume

[buoyant tree]

linux/windows

[polar spoke]

you would think but, unfortunately for many, also no

[hearty gull]

Windows hacker panel from 4chan 😈

[polar spoke]

they need a lot of us for compliance check marks and thats about it :/

it's really quite sad to see how common it is

[bitter quiver]

Wait until you find out how many companies "fail to report" breaches

[polar spoke]

I'd like to say things are changing for the better, but as of late, not so sure about that

[bitter quiver]

Also most breaches aren't discovered until 3-6 months after it happened

[hearty gull]

Yeah if i would to own a company i would’ve invest 100% in security

[bitter quiver]

If at all

[hearty gull]

rm -rf syslog lmao

[polar spoke]

your CFO would have a fit lol

[hearty gull]

No but yeah thags sick

[hearty gull]

Cfo?

[polar spoke]

chief financial officer

[boreal scarab]

Before

After

[hearty gull]

Well idk what that means but i guess thanks? Lmao

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @polar spoke (current: #156 - 39)

[lone thistle]

WD2?

[polar spoke]

lol

[boreal scarab]

Watch Dogs 1

[polar spoke]

#156 ? damn, i gotta get my thanks meter up

[bitter quiver]

Never played, it's on my to do list

Looks so fun over the years

[boreal scarab]

https://www.nexusmods.com/watchdogs/mods/209?tab=description

With this mod

[buoyant tree]

hmm

[boreal scarab]

Gameplay has changed too. Hacking cell phones aint instant, it is actually drawn out, and takes a bit longer

[buoyant tree]

will use the mod when I play watchdogs

[hearty gull]

Not in fivem 😂😂

[buoyant tree]

so about 2 years?

[boreal scarab]

Oh yah

[chilly veldt]

yooo @lone thistle it released?? Cool!

[boreal scarab]

Nah, bout 5 seconds, vs 1 seconds

[lone thistle]

yuuup

[sick lance]

Idea stealer. 😄

[lone thistle]

prolly the quickest time i've turned around a room. Done the exploit over the weekend as a learning thing and then it worked and I was like "Oh I can make a room on this". Then boom

[lone thistle]

well, tbf, you never told me...so 😉

[bitter quiver]

So, I found out something scary listening to one of the recent RSA conferences. They can now do a simple over the air hack to any andoird/iphone that doesn't require any interaction. It's expensive, but basically at the moment no phone is safe if you are a high value target?

[sick lance]

You mean you're not psychic? 😄

[lone thistle]

unfortunately 😦

[bitter quiver]

Didn't think that was possible

[polar spoke]

how do i get a not horribly outdated password cracking room added lol

[sick lance]

Create it, submit it.

[bitter quiver]

You just hack in and add it yourself duh, then they hire you

[bitter quiver]

Shhhh

[sick lance]

Rude.

[polar spoke]

ez

[bitter quiver]

[boreal scarab]

In watch dogs? No one is safe 👀

[bitter quiver]

No IRL.

[boreal scarab]

Oh, then just use a flip phone, you'll be fine.

[bitter quiver]

I guess like the president and other figures basically have a series of pre-prepped phones that are ready to be cycled nowadays and they get checked daily

It's nutty man

[earnest swift]

Does anyone know anything about the cell coverageoutages?

[shut hawk]

ooo nice! reminds me of https://tryhackme.com/room/outlookntlmleak

[lone thistle]

indeed!

similar concept, less user-interaction required & wider impact in terms of vuln clients

[bitter quiver]

In a specific area?

[boreal scarab]

https://downdetector.com/

Al;ways lovely to see, 74,200 people have complained XD

[sand trench]

shadow forgot to write down the path of exploit for #1208126025612009492 and now has to redo it

[earnest swift]

massive outages across the US - just wondering if it's a test attack type thing

[sick lance]

Now all you young ones will feel how we felt growing up with no mobiles

[bitter quiver]

Usually when this happens, Bob or someone accidently smudged ketchup on a button that shorted

[sand trench]

oh there is a outage in the us???

okay who bited the undersea cable????

[earnest swift]

lol yalllll

[polar spoke]

ok is it actually that easy because if so, i've got quite a bit of writing to do

[bitter quiver]

It's the Chinese

[boreal scarab]

US really going through a WD1 Blackout

[lone thistle]

sorry. the lunch in the canteen wasn't that appealing so I thought i'd have a nom on the cable

[bitter quiver]

They upset over that leak

[polar spoke]

rumor that I had heard was that it was related to a SIM registration issue, but yet unconfirmed afaik

[boreal scarab]

I blame @graceful thistle

[sick lance]

It will get put through to QA to test, but AFAIK yeah,

Create room, design what it is and have a writeup written too.

[boreal scarab]

Dolphin ated the cables

[sand trench]

[bitter quiver]

CIA trained dolphins

[near hawk]

A double room release tonight then? 👀

[polar spoke]

huh, interesting, guess i'll give it a shot

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/dolphin-swim-backwards-dont-care-lol-bye-gif-5000449

The dolphins after nomming on cables

[bitter quiver]

Didn't we train dolphins as soldiers in WW2

[umbral bay]

In 4K IMAX.™️

[subtle gust]

Hi everyone, can you help me to reset this room ? https://tryhackme.com/room/lateralmovementandpivoting

Here my issue :
Hello everyone, I'm having an issue with room Lateral Movement and Pivoting.
Every machines seems to be offline. Network state is running, webpage is refreshed, my VPN connection is OK, reset is 1/5...

Someone can help me ?

[chilly veldt]

56 Devices written into an inventory overview manually, has taken me close to 5 hours

[bitter quiver]

Yes, yes we did

[spice adder]

wat D:

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-really-no-words-huh-gif-11734443283337114503

[bitter quiver]

I wasn't kidding.

Dolphins are way more capable than folk think lol

[spice adder]

but...how.. they're dolphins

m16's didnt work underwater, did they? :o

[bitter quiver]

They lol

They don't use M-16s

[spice adder]

HOW COULD THEY SHOOT

oh

[bitter quiver]

They are mostly used to reconnaissance and scouting.

[polar spoke]

normal ones don't, but special underwater arms do exist 😛

[spice adder]

nmap dolphin

[bitter quiver]

Actually

nmap dolphi is it

[sand trench]

we have trained quite a few sea animals to deal with seamines

[bitter quiver]

We also use them to detect underwater minefields

^^

[spice adder]

i hope they get paid well

[bitter quiver]

Their sonar is a million times better than our best sonar

[sand trench]

mostly fish ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter quiver]

Dogs, pigeons, dolphins

WW2 we used small dogs to run comm cables

There are a few statues

Same with some famous carrier pigeons, there are some statues

[buoyant tree]

is it a actual movie?

or a room

[bitter quiver]

No lie thoug if I was a dog trainer in war and someone hurts the dog, I'd go John Rambo

[spice adder]

in my area a lot of people turn their dogs into literal machines, however they have the tasks of an ordinary house dog. Like crafting a nuke to clear a mole hill

[shut hawk]

IPoAC

[bitter quiver]

Carrier pigeons first organized system of UDP data transfer

[earnest swift]

SIM registration issue you say ... what's that even meeeeean... the network doesn't recognize the sim cards anymore? not cool enough sim cards

[bitter quiver]

Probably just a resolution issue of assigning them slots. Give it an hour or two

Or this could be a 1st wave disruption attack from aliens approaching us from the edge of our solar system using the gas giants to hide their signatures.

Next our sattelites will black out.

[lone thistle]

From w/e I know about telecoms, "SIM Registration" would mean SIM cards connecting to the masts/network etc, not necessarily "registering a SIM for the first time"

[bitter quiver]

I like my version better

[polar spoke]

This

[bitter quiver]

100% aliens

[spice adder]

ditto

[bitter quiver]

Don't believe the cover up

[buoyant tree]

Ben, you played alan wake's american nightmare?

[lone thistle]

sounds like you need some tinfoil. Luckily, I bought two rolls today

[lone thistle]

yess but not completed. I didn't enjoy it that much tbh

[buoyant tree]

hmm

Played control, ALan wake 1 remastered

[bitter quiver]

They refuse to sell me anymore after I gave all the squirrels in the beighborhood shiny hats so that they can mass organize without CIA infiltration

[buoyant tree]

Now Quantum break and american nightmare remain before 2

[rapid merlin]

AT&T got merked in america what's going on

[shut hawk]

bennn can i DM?

[lone thistle]

I thought about replaying alan wake 1 & nightmare to catch-up on the story, but then, found a 1hour or so video that explained the whole lore and just listened when at the gym.

Plus. AW2 does a semi-okay job on catching you up on the lore

[lone thistle]

please do:)

[buoyant tree]

eh I just played a 14 video game to not have to watch a 1 hour video

[lone thistle]

haha fair enough!

[buoyant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-brain-gif-24918687

[lone thistle]

For me it was more of a "I wouldn't have the hours to put in the games before AW2" and I just really keen to play AW2

[buoyant tree]

yea I have bought it for a couple months

just wanna make the experience be perfect

[lone thistle]

also very fair

especially as it's such a story game

[buoyant tree]

all prerequisites done

[buoyant tree]

yea also gonna have to replay the AWE expansion of control

[lone thistle]

I'm about 50% through AW2, I'm a bit confused, so many plot lines, and because I'm dummy and want to play and not explore I feel like I'm missing quite a bit.

But I won't spoil it

[buoyant tree]

yea thanks for no spoilers

but Alan wake 1 is like no 2 in story games for me

RDR2 comes first

[proven quartz]

The Elden Ring expansion trailer dropped yesterday. I'm going to need to find 200 hours in the next 4 months to prep for it

[spice adder]

IT DID?

:o

[buoyant tree]

I know a place where you can find it but its quite dangerous

[grand current]

Hey I am facing some problem in connecting openvpn can someone pls help....

[lone thistle]

yeah 100% one of my most favourite games ever

[buoyant tree]

yea hope they do a remake some time down the line

I didn't enjoy the movement a lot

[proven quartz]

Yeah, big announcement. It's out in June

[proven quartz]

I'm sure I'll get there eventually 😛

[buoyant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-deprived-what-is-sleep-patrick-star-insomnia-sleep-gif-5803074

[proven quartz]

#site-support might be the best place

[grand current]

Thank you @proven quartz

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @proven quartz (current: #21 - 355)

[proven quartz]

Haha well I don't usually get to the tv til after midnight

[buoyant tree]

sesems to be fun

[earnest swift]

findaspring.org if sh hits the fan

[sick lance]

Elden Ring 2 get announced, or was it DLC?

[proven quartz]

DLC. It's going to be large

[spice adder]

just watched it there, that boss at 1:11 looks insane

Rykard level of baddass boss design

[proven quartz]

I'm guessing there's going to be quite a few surprises and heavy challenges

[spice adder]

Yeah the dlc content always seems to add so much depth into the souls games

historically, dlc is arguably better than the base games

[proven quartz]

The base game is like an epic intro to the dlc and then BLAM! A whole new bunch of stuff you weren't ready for 😄

[chilly veldt]

Going home too late today, so gonna have a stop at either Max or mickies today

[proven quartz]

Treat yourself 🙂 Have a little fun!

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, that's what I am going to do, looking at a double cheeseburger with a coke Zero or something

[proven quartz]

Oh very nice! I'd love a burger. I have 1 lbs of beef mince defrosting atm. Was gonna do a bolognese but tempted to make burgers now 😛

[crude stump]

@rapid merlin what do you need

[chilly veldt]

Yeahhhh, sorry🤣
I will be home at like 8pm, and I also have a workout to do, so I decided eating on my way home

[shut hawk]

DLC. Really, Really cool.

[split compass]

Coke Zero makes me sad, when it was released it was so close to the taste of regular coke since they used Splenda.
Now with Aspertame and Ascefulfame Potassium, it just tastes like every other diet cola. 😦

[chilly veldt]

Yeah, sadly enough

[split compass]

<Insert you coulda been someone gif>

[chilly veldt]

Ello

[boreal scarab]

Ay

[near hawk]

Osiris

Osiris is the hardest out of all of em

[boreal scarab]

Smooth maple mead

Ever done OSINT?

Mission accomplished

@gray sonnet

[gray sonnet]

Well you were the one sending the pogger thingy chains lol

[boreal scarab]

What about SearchLight? Sakura?

[boreal scarab]

[gray sonnet]

Yes this

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/get-wrecked-kid-basically-homeless-gaming-get-wrecked-dont-mess-with-me-gif-20063438

[sick lance]

Lady Gaga in fortnite...

[bitter quiver]

So with a recent windows update bitdefender popped a "trojin" file. Did a full reinstlal(unrelated, been planning for 2 weeks) and it just did it again after updates completed. What is M$ playing at. lol

Assume it's a false positive but that's odd

[lone thistle]

Perhaps wouldn't be the first false positive. Check the MD5/SHA256 of the file and look at sites like virustotal

I think I've had the Windows weather app flag in windows defender. it's not perfect but neither is any AV 😄

[bitter quiver]

Yeah running a full scan but it's a complete fresh install, and it's the same triple touch

I've downloaded nothing outside of Steam and games through it, and standard software lol

[mossy river]

Out of nowhere got sucked into a defcon talk, usually I can’t focus on them but this one I couldn’t take my eyes off

Have no idea where I am

[lone thistle]

share bestie

[bitter quiver]

ooo

[mossy river]

https://youtu.be/gfcq8clu1RI?si=YroUQPrV_609ZSFv

[lone thistle]

ahh yes

'tis good

[mossy river]

Interesting stuffs

[lone thistle]

i want to one day:

1. have the confidence
2. be smort enough

to present a defcon talk

[mossy river]

I just need the second one

[hollow pivot]

I've beem binging DC talks recently

[mossy river]

I put all my skill points in public speaking

[whole yew]

Denial of Service Dog and Forensic Fails are my two favorite published defcon talks

[mossy river]

Although if you hear me in a meeting you might think otherwise

[lone thistle]

YESSS

[hollow pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CzURm7OpAA

[lone thistle]

gosh that ones so good

[hollow pivot]

Yeah, the cat and dog one is golden

love it when he sees that the cat keeps ditching the equipment, or just staying in the backyard the whole day

[lone thistle]

the forensic fails and the one that the FBI gave about catching that botnet operator are 💯

[mossy river]

He’s such a good speaker, adding to my watchlist

[bitter quiver]

Before SSDs I remember watching a special about a dude who had his HDDs setup inside an electromagnet device wired to the light switch. And when they hit the light switch they obliterated the evidence.

[lone thistle]

what's the defcon talk about destroying hard drives using thermite and such? that one's awesome

[mossy river]

One day I’ll attend defcon

[glass nest]

Kinda like this? https://www.crowdsupply.com/interrupt-labs/ovrdrive-usb

[bitter quiver]

I mean thermite can destroy just about anything lol

[glass nest]

Except my sense of wonder

[bitter quiver]

It's good to know how to make it and keep magnesium strips around

[bitter quiver]

It will rekindle that when you watch it melt through an engine block like butter

Good old flowerpot incendiaries

[lone thistle]

well...actual thermite yes but "civilian" thermite .... eeeeh

[bitter quiver]

I was referencing experiences with civilian thermite

[glass nest]

Well.. all that stuff isn't really my jam 🙂

[bitter quiver]

100% not as good as professional stuff

But will get the job done if you are using gravity

HDD platters wouldn't survive the temperature regardless of who made it

[proven quartz]

Going into BSides last year I was asked if I was a speaker. I said no but I'd get up and run my mouth for an hour if there was an opening I didn't get a speakers' goodie bag

[bitter quiver]

SSDs wouldn't either

[lone thistle]

i'll see if I can find the talk

it was great

[bitter quiver]

Sounds like a good one

[lone thistle]

plus hard drives exploding

[bitter quiver]

At my one job we baked SSDs

Just cooked em to ash

[lone thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpX8YvNg6Y

[bitter quiver]

Can't get data off dust

[lone thistle]

they used like thermite, plasma cutters, etc

[bitter quiver]

Damn, bust out the plasma cutter

100% effective lol

I await the day we manufacture anti-matter bombs that use suspended antimatter particles (if we can get ahold of them) that then are exposed to the traditional matter.

Imagine an HDD with that failsafe

[proven quartz]

Would be very expensive and the failure rate would be untenable

[bitter quiver]

A crazy man can dream

[lament tendon]

Where did the food threat go, I wanted to show off. :(

[hollow pivot]

And hilarious, such a good sense of humour

[bitter quiver]

Plus I know the energy released is extreme, so I don't know if it's so far into overkill it's counter productive risk wise

[hollow pivot]

With me!

[proven quartz]

You could explore the physics of it to a certain extent and write some good sci fi at least

[bitter quiver]

True but I haven't been a great writer since I gave up alcohol

Sadness

[summer garden]

Great lab @lone thistle Moniker Link.

[lone thistle]

thank you!

[proven quartz]

Just a matter of growing your skills afresh

[bitter quiver]

Aye. But I used that to slow my ADHD down so I could write.

But I'm taking a medication that is "gently" hard on the liver and I'm not going to stress it with recreational abuse lol.

Might try high dosage Lions Mane/Reishi tea

Or other nootropics

[spice adder]

been interested in trying lions mane myself

[bitter quiver]

I've used it on and off in conjunction with caffeine. Makes me slightly lightheaded at first followed by focus and creativity. But I don't like using stuff that does that daily.

[proven quartz]

Haha well I only drink socially these days, almost never at home. But I was referring to your writing skills, rather than your drinking skills 😛

[bitter quiver]

Writing skills are there. It's the only reason I do so well professionally. Generally write up everything from attendance policies, to training skits, etc.

[wind lake]

beep boop

[shut hawk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0em6Y3t0NbE?si=0_scJkOlCv0XwVLA

Hehe

[proven quartz]

So time for some recreational writing then

[bitter quiver]

Fair

I want to do a dive into the struggle of human beings as AI and Automation take over and people develop difficulties in facing life without traditionally defined purpose. Few good ways to explore that

[rapid merlin]

Sounds interesting

I wonder what jobs or tasks we could get more advanced AI to do

[bitter quiver]

Well they already test out AI lawyers and some hospitals have started using AI doctors

[near hawk]

Cook food so i dont have to

[bitter quiver]

The one AI medical system seems really good at predicting cardiac events up to 24 hours ahead of time

Something a human doctor simply can't do

[rapid merlin]

Lawyers could be good, seeing as there are set laws and legislations, it makes it kind of black and white

[bitter quiver]

That said we will always have needs for human doctors. That's the kind of field where a "hunch " can savve a life

[rapid merlin]

I wish, imagine?

[bitter quiver]

I mean they have fully automated resteraunts now

They are just the new color TV/ Home PC

Most of us can't afford the tech

But in 20 years it will be stupidly cheap

Like how 3D printing evolved

[glass nest]

I dunno, Anything that can rely on a persons opinion can't really be AI. Courts offer deals, sanctions and all sorts based on a persons situation. It would all be far too complex for AI. Minor crimes (Like parking, speeding etc) is already automated

And fast food places are getting there. Self-service kioisks are the beginning.

But I don't think thats really 'AI' more process automation.

[rapid merlin]

Yeah I mean I was trying to think what job could you fully entrust to an AI

I struggle to think of a lot

Possibly vehicles? Self driving? It's all very complex

[glass nest]

I think AI would need to get to a much higher level before it's considered in that way. Current generations are used to automation, but my generation... I dunno, It's one of those things that my age wouldnt let me fully trust, y'know?

[bitter quiver]

Especially if we get modern cities that have the infrastructure

The future of AI vehicles is that the roadways and systems we have now need to evolve intoa n integrated network

[glass nest]

Also, with geeks like us prodding an poking stuff it'd be a matter oif time where an AI would be exploited, at which point.. can you really trust any of them?

[rapid merlin]

I get you, I think AI is an extremely complex topic, I don't think I could ever fully grasp what it is capable of doing

[bitter quiver]

Whereas Europe and places like India make mass use of public transit, here in the U.S. we are almost fervently against it. And AI driven transportation would require heavy integration into it being more public. Even if it's your vehicle it needs to interact with a public system for logic and queuing, etc

[shell nova]

ML is good at pattern recognition

[glass nest]

At which point would 'Advanced automation' become AI?

[bitter quiver]

Well the true goal here is sentience, is it not?

[shell nova]

Depends

[bitter quiver]

The real question is, at what point does AI simply become Intelligence. ANd at what point will we assign rights to it.

[shell nova]

Personally I think that would be bloody spooky

[rapid merlin]

Haha I couldn't answer that, as Cipher just said, I think the end game is sentience, creating beings

[bitter quiver]

When it can fear the end of it's own exsitence?

[rapid merlin]

We are playing god!

[bitter quiver]

Let us hope our story is not akin to that of Icarus

[rapid merlin]

It definitely would be

[bitter quiver]

If the right folk do it, we have a solid chance

AI will be required for us to advance up the Kardashev Scale

[rapid merlin]

We are definitely wiping ourselves out🤣we are not getting past that next barrier of civilisation

[bitter quiver]

"Humanity presently stands at Type 0.7276 on the Kardashev Scale"

[rapid merlin]

Yeah

[glass nest]

Thats the key. People are all horrible. The end goal for the first rollout will always be money/

[bitter quiver]

The theory is most life wipes itself out before it surpasses stage 1 on the scale

[rapid merlin]

Real

[glass nest]

The point is, it kinda has to be.

[bitter quiver]

Unironically, a "good" monarchy/dictatorship has far more potential to save mankind than complete freedom does. Neither endorsing or justifying anything, but from a philosphical standpoint and examining average intelligence.

[rapid merlin]

I remember watching a video saying that if a civilisation did exist, and it was more advanced than us, then it would mean we are destined to go extinct before we reach that stage

[glass nest]

Unless its military, stuff will always be funded privately before being adptopted

[bitter quiver]

U.S. Military is privately done.

The flesh resource isn't

But it's one massive corrupt industrial war complex in terms of making the equipment lol

[rapid merlin]

I wonder if we will make the advancement to other planets or harvesting the suns energy (in a way that is more effective than solar)

[boreal scarab]

Speaking of Military..... I fucking HATE the "Military grade encryption" bullshit

[bitter quiver]

The term military grade technically means cheap and mass produced

[glass nest]

without getting into politics - usually technologies are devloped by militaries, then retro-used to make consumer goods

Communications is a huge one

[bitter quiver]

Developed by private contractors who get the deals and billions to invest from particular senators/staff who get kickbacks*

Fixed that

[rapid merlin]

True

[bitter quiver]

U.S. government hasn't developed a thing since Korean War

It's all contracted

[rapid merlin]

Where would a fully sentient AI even fit into our society

[glass nest]

But funded by militaries. If the army doesnt want/need it, they won't fund it.

But it's a vicious circle. This stuff DOES cost money, time and expertise.

[bitter quiver]

Imagine the effectiveness of a sentient AI as an interlaced network for emergency response. Massively enhancing coordination efforts of EMS, Police, hospitals

[boreal scarab]

"With military grade 256-bit encryption" 🤢 🤮

[bitter quiver]

It can also do things we can't like accurately assertain stress levels via the persons voice. Detect the closest resource immediately, identify possible need for law enforcement aid, and pre-notify hospitals likely to be use.

[merry scarab]

hm

[bitter quiver]

Things that take far longer for humans to coordinate

[merry scarab]

Hybrid wars

[rapid merlin]

Now, how can we weaponise it?

[grizzled crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrOxh_0leE i dont want to sound like a broken record but...watch this video!

[bitter quiver]

Eh.....I watched a senator grill some folks on why we are paying a contractor $10,000 for a single plastic piece when we can buy the exact same piece for 4 bucks.

It's corrupted

[merry scarab]

Yes Cyborgs are bad

[grizzled crystal]

an AI cannot "predict" anything with any reasonable fedility

[glass nest]

We are walking a line here though. So I was only talking about the economics of technology advancmeny. not Wars or national budgets. Wanna make that clear

[bitter quiver]

Today's AI, and yet it does

I'm specifically talking after we advance past AI

To actual intelligence

[rapid merlin]

Will AI overthrow us? Imagine actually being a slave to AI, or would they even find it advantageous to enslave us

[grizzled crystal]

How does it do that? How do we know how it predicts what it does? It can't tell you. It's a black box

[merry scarab]

AI have a weakness.

[rapid merlin]

The power button.

[grizzled crystal]

Oh okay. Yeah, it's hard to talk about AI because AI means actual AI and LLM at the same time. Are you talking about AI or ChatGPT?

[merry scarab]

You can't control it maybe. If they are too powerful.

xd

[grizzled crystal]

or a chatgpt variant

[bitter quiver]

AI once we reach the level of sentience

[bitter quiver]

I have no clue.

[grizzled crystal]

That's..yeah okay. Sure

[bitter quiver]

Yeah lol.

[proven quartz]

AI doesn't need sentience or consciousness to be intelligent or dangerous

[merry scarab]

AI have no soul.

[bitter quiver]

We are starting to use AI to accurately predict stroke/heart attacks though. But that's still human involved

[bitter quiver]

Humans don't need intelligence or conciousness to be dangerous

[rapid merlin]

Hahahahhaa

[proven quartz]

Yeah sleepwalking kills

[rapid merlin]

Lack thereof

[merry scarab]

I never trust my life by AI. If i drive a car.

[whole yew]

Not even demonstrated to be possible, given current state of the art hardware and software. for "true" AI that is sapient and cognizant, there needs to be a multiple revoultionary paradigm shifts in computing

[bitter quiver]

No, but someone self infecting with a disease and purposely navigating through a city with a super bug before passing out carries extreme risks.

I fear superbugs far more than any AI or traditional weapon.

[rapid merlin]

Yeah reading this made me feel like I'm on acid

[merry scarab]

I prefer full control of my life.

[rapid merlin]

You don't even have that now.

[bitter quiver]

True! We are just now starting on quantum computing.

But what about the exploration of biological integration.

Growing brains

[proven quartz]

An artificial mind doesn't even need that. There are many directions intelligence can go without ever being aware

[merry scarab]

no way

[grizzled crystal]

Again, there's many many cases of AI medical software gone wrong. It's hard to know how AI does what it does and what factors it predicts by. [insert that one time AI predicted cancer probability based on how old the machine in the background looked or something like that]

[rapid merlin]

True freedom was back when we were smashing rocks and discovering fire

[proven quartz]

There's risks from all those things. Not all are existential 😛

[merry scarab]

God > AI

[bitter quiver]

Right but predicting one of those wrong and taking extra precautions....doesn't yield a negative result

WE get a net gain

[proven quartz]

We found fire. It was just there... Doing stuff.

[whole yew]

Debatable. My understanding of neurology and neurobiology is sketchy at best, self-awareness is one of the prerequisites for conciousness which is what I think AI futurists mean by "intelligence"

[bitter quiver]

Man, some of my happiest memories was just wandering through the woods taking notes on bugs I saw as a kid and capturing samples in small jars.

[grizzled crystal]

Do we? I'm no scientist but I'm gonna need numbers and specifics

[bitter quiver]

A life saved = net gain

Even one

[merry scarab]

If i fail God rescue me 100%. Can a AI does that?

✝️ > 🤖

[whole yew]

Alright, the AI conversation has come close to invoking politics but has invoked religion. I'm exiling the the AI convo to the shadow realm.

No more discussion on this topic, please.

[bitter quiver]

How about them 49ers

I'm still salty

[whole yew]

(which means if you are typing one last thing, stop and move on)

[grizzled crystal]

Yugioh moment

[proven quartz]

Well the conversation has gone in several directions, but philosophically, technically, a machine doesn't need intelligence to perform tasks. Intelligence just might be an emergent quality of the work done by matter

[glass nest]

So much of woodworking is making jigs to make jigs to make stuff.

[bitter quiver]

I want my thumbs healed so I can start renting a garage and get back into woodworking

I miss creating

[glass nest]

Yes Cipher!

[rapid merlin]

Epic, no input needed, just happened, what a time to be alive

monkey noises

[bitter quiver]

Fire make flesh of fallen beast delicious. Let us add these small leaves

[rapid merlin]

Man I'd love to experience humanity at all these different points

[rapid merlin]

LOOOL

[proven quartz]

fire make cow more tasty

[bitter quiver]

I used to think that, nowadays I don't.

[final tulip]

hii

[rapid merlin]

Not permanently, but just a snippet

[bitter quiver]

Like the old viewmaster toys?

[glass nest]

Last 3 fridays have just been organising the workshop. I'm really hoping I can actually make something sellable tomorrow

[bitter quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/view-finder-retro-woman-click-gif-15822309

[past sparrow]

bear scared of fire, me happy

[unkempt venture]

Bonjour !

[merry scarab]

hi

[bitter quiver]

Saw an IT guy online who made extra cash on the weekend building unique playground sets for rich people to buy. Extra few thousand bucks a month an dhe could usually do each in 4 hours as he made templates

[final tulip]

can anyone help me with getting ownership back from a small server?
i assume you all hackers here

[noble orchid]

Is ansible niche or is it used a lot?

[bitter quiver]

Go through whatever official source said server has as customer service.

No one here is gonna break the law

[glass nest]

UK is a bit of a different market. When I see someone paying $750 for a coffee table, I'm like.. Woaaaah

[rapid merlin]

Yikes

[glass nest]

@shell nova --> #general message

[final tulip]

what type of hackers are here?

[rapid merlin]

What I usually do is, extort the owners of the new vanity

[glass nest]

Hydra is the BEST hacker here.

[rapid merlin]

JK

[unkempt venture]

il y a un général français ?

[noble orchid]

Ethical ones

[merry scarab]

blue-hat, red-hat maybe? xd

[glass nest]

He can help you with your challenge, flakes 🙂

[bitter quiver]

This is a bunch of folk who love tech, and ETHICAL hacking within legal regulations

[final tulip]

ugh

[bitter quiver]

No man, I wear Pumas

[rapid merlin]

What vanity did you lose

[bitter quiver]

Uggs are ugly

[rapid merlin]

Just buy it back from whoever sniped it

[merry scarab]

IT-Specialists, IT-Developer interesting

So many area..

[rapid merlin]

Wait is this wood work?

My dad was a carpenter, and recently got himself a laive (I think that's the spelling) again

However he is yet to make anything

[bitter quiver]

Man

Laives terrify me

Only tool I avoid

[rapid merlin]

guys what was the lockbit thing about

[bitter quiver]

I have seen...too many videos of laive accidents

Graphic ones

[rapid merlin]

Why? Lmao, I don't know how they work at all

[bitter quiver]

I just can't

[rapid merlin]

He's the wood guy

[bitter quiver]

Well I'm made of flesh

What is this, Megaman?

[rapid merlin]

I witnessed a guy lose his finger to a saw once

[bitter quiver]

ANd it's lathe

[rapid merlin]

Lathe

Bathe in a lathe

In a pool of my innards

[bitter quiver]

That's kind of what I have seen...

Exactly

Except it spins folks around at that speed and I'm not going to go into detail

Moving onto the joys of woodowrking

Not my pTSD lol

[rapid merlin]

Yeah I'm not googling that later

[bitter quiver]

Please don't

Stay sane

[rapid merlin]

I already seen terrible things my friend, I am scarred

[bitter quiver]

How about that Ubuntu

[rapid merlin]

Yeah shit's pretty cool

[bitter quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-convention-arch-linux-kali-linux-linux-mint-gif-25225132

[rapid merlin]

However, I may be doing an athena OS

Or

Some other set up soon

But i also want to rice an arch again ;-;

So many choices

[merry scarab]

hm

[bitter quiver]

I'm doing POP! OS as a daily driver again

[rapid merlin]

Any reason? I haven't used POP before

Yeah too much fun when it's breaking my build all the time

[bitter quiver]

Nice spin of Ubuntu, it's professsional focused

Meant for if you actually want to work

Granted any OS can be that

I mostly like it's simplicity and aesthetics

[rapid merlin]

Hmmmmm

When i get a laptop do I want to rice or live an easy life

[crude stump]

No don’t buy it back. Report it to discord

[bitter quiver]

No, but it does do that rather well. But I'd never game on LInux

[rapid merlin]

You usually only allegedly have to buy it back when the server gets terminated. if you get socially engineered to transfer ownership then, I'm not sure what discord can do

[mossy river]

Ping a moderator.

[grim sparrow]

:hammer: flakes.ae#0 has been banned.

[grim sparrow]

[BAN] User left the discord server.

[bitter quiver]

Sorry, I'll do that next time

[rapid merlin]

😄

Yeah me too, my bad

[bitter quiver]

You could say he was flakey at best

[crude stump]

[rapid merlin]

Anyways

Who can hack the facebooks?

[merry scarab]

m

hm

[crude stump]

💀

@mossy river

[rapid merlin]

NO

IM JOKING

[sand trench]

where is the sleep button on shadow???

[mossy river]

There’s a time and a place lil homie

[bitter quiver]

Ex gf made me sooo setup, I wunt Revenges

[crude stump]

How was I supposed to know

[rapid merlin]

Unironically jared I'm probably bigger than you

[bitter quiver]

Oh my

[crude stump]

This dude

[rapid merlin]

Teeheehee

[bitter quiver]

Shameless

[mossy river]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-medal-of-freedom-obama-gif-7544963

[merry scarab]

facebook? Better no hack. xd

[buoyant tree]

He's Jabba not Jared

[crude stump]

My pet elephant is prolly bigger then you too

[rapid merlin]

Oh my bad jabba

[crude stump]

So what

[rapid merlin]

Jabba my bmi is exceeding yours bro

So next time, call me biggie cheese

[mossy river]

That’s sad

[crude stump]

Bet you can’t bench 1000 buddy

😂

[bitter quiver]

call me Cheddar the Extra

[buoyant tree]

1000 feathers?

[sand trench]

shadow can.... lifts 1 litre of water

[merry scarab]

😂

[bitter quiver]

I can bench 1,000 paperclips. I think.

[crude stump]

Imagine not being able to bench a small car

Slight work

😂

[rapid merlin]

Nobody can bench a small car

[buoyant tree]

cap

[crude stump]

Let me tell you somthing

[bitter quiver]

Yes, I can bench 1000 paperclips

CHeckmate

[sand trench]

shadow can benches their toy car

[crude stump]

I picked up the world once

[rapid merlin]

When I walk, my feet are actually just draping the earth beneath me

[bitter quiver]

Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups, he pushes the world down

[rapid merlin]

That's why the world turns

[mossy river]

https://youtu.be/zZFwsQEuyVk?si=rte4XkwUzUe2wdpb

[buoyant tree]

question, what toy car you have?

If hot wheels ur cool

[rapid merlin]

That's a gutted car

[bitter quiver]

Hopefully a Dodge VIper

[crude stump]

Doesn’t matter

[bitter quiver]

Dodge Viper is the dream car I will never own

[mossy river]

It is still a car by definition, no?

[crude stump]

Never said has to not be gutted

[rapid merlin]

Meh technicalities

Nobody can bench a 2004 ford fiesta

FULLY STOCK

[crude stump]

I can

Trust

[rapid merlin]

You got me

Jared why is my BMI high sad

Sorry jabba

[sand trench]

the vroom vroom Skreeee vrrom type

[mossy river]

You’re bragging about having a high BMI

[crude stump]

Why are you obsessed with the BMI index

[buoyant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-car-drive-thug-life-gif-18972601

[bitter quiver]

Bodybuilders are technically obese on the BMI

[rapid merlin]

Yeah because my bodyfat is 15

Percent

hi

[bitter quiver]

Greetings and salutations

[rapid merlin]

So technically, high bmi is the goal

[crude stump]

Your heart is working overtime

[bitter quiver]

My heart rate loves to hit 110 just existing

[spice adder]

Yeah I work out… my cardiovascular system by walking to the fridge

[bitter quiver]

And I'm skinny

[rapid merlin]

Bigger people die sooner

It's no secret

[mossy river]

This conversation got depressing

[crude stump]

Ikr

Lame ah conversation

[bitter quiver]

Lets move on

[rapid merlin]

Rich piana RIP

[bitter quiver]

To favorite code writing editor

[sand trench]

shadow is whacky right now after only sleeping 4 hours in total over the last 3 nights

[rapid merlin]

vim

[mossy river]

On another note, tried super greens for the first time today.

It tastes great until the bottom of the shaker

[rapid merlin]

Is that actually worth it?

[crude stump]

Yum

[bitter quiver]

Because I am lame with my Visual Studio

[crude stump]

It is for jabba with his hulking muscles

[bitter quiver]

I used to use various super green foods. But man it almost always tastes like grass

[crude stump]

[sand trench]

why shadows head full of voices????

[crude stump]

Hm

[mossy river]

Taking it instead of multi-vitamins because it’s sourced from plants so your body should accept it better

[bitter quiver]

Oh. I was just grinding my multivitamins up and snorting them in lines.

[rapid merlin]

I always take my vitamins with a meal for the same reason but, what are the greens you use?

[mossy river]

This tastes like tea, it’s not actually bad. I’m going to try adding it to juice next time

[crude stump]

😭

[rapid merlin]

Is jabba actually big

[crude stump]

Asking me like I know Jabba personally

[buoyant tree]

hallucinations or

[sand trench]

think @silver sky is wide... dunno about other measurements

[bitter quiver]

lol

[buoyant tree]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-ghost-spooky-scary-gif-12414614

[mossy river]

I can’t find the same one but it’s similar to this https://yoursuper.co.uk/products/super-green

[bitter quiver]

My wife saw old photos of me from when I was a personal trainer and said "That's not you". HIt me with feels

[crude stump]

Damn

[rapid merlin]

Thank you I may look into it

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mossy river (current: #6 - 1169)

[sand trench]

probably.... potentially it could be other personalities but shadow is leaning towards hallucinations as that is more comfy and easier to treat

[buoyant tree]

thats some fancy stuff

[buoyant tree]

yea probably sleep

[bitter quiver]

Wonder if it's in Murica

[rapid merlin]

Is anyone here into the gym?

[crude stump]

Prolly is

[mossy river]

Search super greens on Amazon

[bitter quiver]

I will be once I get my thumbs back....again

[crude stump]

Idk how different uk and america is

[sand trench]

would if the night terrors dropped again

[rapid merlin]

Yummy thanks my friend

[buoyant tree]

I don't go gym, I do weight lifting for free or get paid to do it

[bitter quiver]

I can't man. I've goten so many open bottles and weird things from Amazon when I get supplements here

Forget that

[mossy river]

But be sure to do your research and consult a dietician if you’re not sure

[bitter quiver]

Either a direct supp site or in person only

[tired peak]

super greens... you mean super toxins

[crude stump]

?

[rapid merlin]

My dietician is a friend of dorian yates so I trust him

[sand trench]

most metals don't glow green but sure

[crude stump]

I eat of uranium glass

I drink a shot of engine oil a day

I think I’m good

[rapid merlin]

Does this affect your metabolism?

[crude stump]

Makes me feel like a v12 engine

[rapid merlin]

What's the macros of a shot of engine oil

[crude stump]

Joke for anyone who actually believes stuff

Butttt

Yk what is good

Strawberry’s

[rapid merlin]

Cherries

Mhm

[tired peak]

Contaminants

Lab tests have found that some greens powders contain lead and other heavy metals. In high amounts, these contaminants can lower energy levels and cause organ damage.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/greens-powder-are-there-health-benefits

I mean it is something to be cautious about

[crude stump]

The pits kinda ruin it for me

[mossy river]

Mhm, it’s important you know where you’re getting your stuff from

[crude stump]

It’s important to take notes

[rapid merlin]

Meh, I just love the flavour and the dark red juice

[mossy river]

You’ll get used to the command, don’t stress yourself over them

[crude stump]

You can always look back at the notes

[rapid merlin]

I love a good scientific study

[sand trench]

note taking note taking note taking note taking note taking note taking note taking
and also useage over time will make them stick in your brain a fair bit too

[rapid merlin]

I can't believe i actually used to read them for fun

[tired peak]

well also like spirulina especially has a danger of having heavy metals cuz our oceans are so contaminated

[bitter quiver]

As an ex supplement industry rep, most companies use A LOT of fillers. And poorly grown/cheaply grown resources have contaminants. Most multi-vitamins are low quality.

Testing isn't regulated

[crude stump]

Or it could be the machines that are processing the powder

[sand trench]

most chocolate has an acceptable amount of bug parts in it

[rapid merlin]

What's the optimal way to injest our vitamins then? If we are supplementing

[bitter quiver]

Bugs are fine. Pesticides aren't.

[tired peak]

also in the US, not sure about other countries, our supplements aren't regulated at all because the supplement political lobby is super strong

[rapid merlin]

Extra protein

[bitter quiver]

Reputable companies. Some will go out of the way to find respected labs and submit to testing.

[crude stump]

Especially energy drinks. Energy drinks have no regulation at all

In us atleast

[mossy river]

https://tenor.com/view/munsonated-gif-26549638

[tired peak]

like people talking about pharmaceuticals? they wish they had the freedom that supplements do

[bitter quiver]

Best thing ever was being forced to give them up in like 2017

[sand trench]

lemonade does not have any regulations at all

[rapid merlin]

Okay well I hope my brand is okay...

[mossy river]

Let me just hide my crate of redbull

[brisk cosmos]

Hi guys 🙂 it's been a month since I opened discord

[crude stump]

Hello

[sand trench]

alla the case of the person that died from caffiene poisoning from lemonade

[rapid merlin]

Time to order another tub of overdrive

[bitter quiver]

Most fillers are just "trash" very few are bad. Only on occasion has a company been caught with seriously bad things like heavy metal contamination

[rapid merlin]

guys what is the lockbit thing

[rapid merlin]

What's the point in filler though?

[crude stump]

Lol

[bitter quiver]

Create enough mass for a "serving"

[brisk cosmos]

Guys, who is using termux?

[bitter quiver]

That and low grade ingredients

[rapid merlin]

Lmao really? I'd much rather a smaller pill

[sand trench]

what is the point of motsoiumglutamate or however it is spelled

[crude stump]

Lockbit is a ransomware gang that recently got busted big time

Biggest

[rapid merlin]

Beats me man, you lost me there. Does sound fishy though

[bitter quiver]

Agreed

[sand trench]

not shadow but tend to use other terminal tools

[bitter quiver]

I remember using Animal packs for awhile when I was young

[brisk cosmos]

I think I've heard about of them before

[sturdy skiff]

hi

[rapid merlin]

I'm in the UK so I hope our stuff is better regulation wise than america

[sand trench]

Monosodium glutamate

[rapid merlin]

What does google say

[tired peak]

MSG is delicious stuff and naturally ocurring

[sturdy skiff]

what stuff is better regulation wise?

[bitter quiver]

Half of the stuff in American food is illegal in Europe lol

[rapid merlin]

Oh that's msg

[sand trench]

and also added to a huge amount of food as a flavour enhancer

[rapid merlin]

MSG is fine though right?

[crude stump]

Yeah what’s crazy about them is instead of them being a lowly gang of a few people. They actually run like a company that provides ransomware products to clients

[rapid merlin]

is it true the fbi recruits people from ransomware gangs

[chilly veldt]

Msg is more than fine

[sand trench]

probably

[shut hawk]

Source?

[bitter quiver]

For example in America they allow titanium oxide in your food

[tired peak]

not in the US, we racism-ed it out of our food

[bitter quiver]

As an ingredient

[rapid merlin]

I swear a lot of people have researched MSG and found no correlation with it being harmful

[sand trench]

fair

was more so talking europe due to e-numbers

[rapid merlin]

Hahahahaha

[brisk cosmos]

I can also make a Ransomware virus in termux or in laptop

[crude stump]

I have heard of fbi recruiting ex hackers but it’s usually because they decided to put that life away and join the good guys

[rapid merlin]

LMAOOOO

[crude stump]

And why would you do that

[brisk cosmos]

What does lmao mean?

[crude stump]

?

[bitter quiver]

I still love the story of the dude who took down wannacry

[rapid merlin]

u do know the fbi sometimes check this chat right

[bitter quiver]

And how the community saved him

[mossy river]

This topic isn’t to be discussed here

[rapid merlin]

Discord is fedded, telegram is fedded

Only use xmpp

[brisk cosmos]

Ok, sorry

[bitter quiver]

I only use carrier pigeons

[tired peak]

yes sure they do

[crude stump]

Bro how the heck does this chat switch this fast bruh

[bitter quiver]

With text written in ancient atlantean

[rapid merlin]

What's your pigeon address? I have something important to show you

[bitter quiver]

Take that interlopers

[sturdy skiff]

seems like something an FBI informant would say

[crude stump]

It’s called being smart

Common sense actually

[bitter quiver]

BawkBawk ClukTwo, East Bawking

[sturdy skiff]

never heard of it, does it taste good?

[rapid merlin]

i just want to learn how to hack but i want to be a good guy who hack for protect a company like a white hat hacker

[tired peak]

the funniest thing was when the FBI thought vegans were a threat so "infiltrated" vegan groups and basically just went to vegan potlucks and ate food

[rapid merlin]

Okay expect my pigeon there in 8-10 days, he has a black tag

[crude stump]

Thm is right for you

[brisk cosmos]

It's called ethical hacking

[bitter quiver]

[crude stump]

Thm has many rooms that walk you through ethical hacking

MANY

[chilly veldt]

Seen the same before with a Mexican cookout getting called for, the whole police department came to join eating

[rapid merlin]

What country put a pigeon in prison because they thought it was a spy? Does anyone remember that

I think it was a middle eastern country

[crude stump]

Ain’t no way 😂

[bitter quiver]

Wish someone would call me for a Mexican cookout

[rapid merlin]

Hold on I will try to find it

[rapid merlin]

i asked my teacher and he said there is many bad guy hackers in this server

[tired peak]

carrier pigeons carrying messages is a really thing

[bitter quiver]

Only thing I miss about one of my older teams is it was EXTREMELY diverse and they all liked me, so I got a lot of ethnic treats and snacks.

[gritty zephyr]

free bird starts playing

[rapid merlin]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/world/asia/india-china-pigeon-spy.html

[wind lake]

they WHAT

[tired peak]

totally true

[wind lake]

thats so funnny

i love that

thanks fbi

[crude stump]

There’s bad people everywhere that’s why there’s trusty mods here to ban em

[sand trench]

digital notes work too... the act of writing it down can help memorise it... and when you need to you can read the section of your notes you need in the moment

[bitter quiver]

I always advocate for One Note for note taking honestly

[tired peak]

https://boingboing.net/2008/05/21/fbi-looking-for-vega.html

[bitter quiver]

It's underrated

[rapid merlin]

No, everyone here abides by the law

[wind lake]

@graceful thistle

[sand trench]

@slender scaffold run.... they are comming to put you in birb jail

[rapid merlin]

She's burnt, get her

[wind lake]

watch out dophin..

[crude stump]

Wait nvm

[tired peak]

funny thing is around 2008, I was doing quite a few vegan potlucks

[rapid merlin]

https://freeram.com

[sturdy skiff]

?

[wind lake]

youre on a list for sure

[glass nest]

Whats a Vegan potluck?

[crude stump]

Never heard of it

[wind lake]

a potluck.... but its vegan food...?

[tired peak]

a place where you go, you bring vegan food and eat vegan food, often in a park

[bitter quiver]

Only reason I've ever eaten vegan food is if there was a cute vegan girl.

Das it