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somebody here for a few years that's actually competant applying for a 55k job is surely gonna get it
no exams for this school year
life saver bro thanks
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Yes, but they have a career meaning they typically don't complain because they prefer to focus on putting in the work and advancing their professional lives.
Actually do all those labs, they're all very useful lmao
Very good, always optimize your time. Create frameworks in your case for situations to streamline tasks and maximize productivity.
one other thing, im quite lost in finding resources to learn mobile app pentesting, any sites or places online u can point me in the direction towards?
I have no experience with that, I would imagine someone else here would know though
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So what you're really saying is "the job market is flush if you're willing to make compromises like taking a 30-40% cut in pay" of "the job market is flush if you're willing to commute 3 hours each way" and it's okay because "they don't complain"
that's not flush. that's dealing with a bad situation.
yeah i do less effort work towards sleeping, like in the morning and mid day id do stuff like CTF's and bug bounty programs, but later on I'd do note taking and stuff from THM, rn im doing a room on android hacking
What will they do instead sit and cry?
Very nice, keep on doing that.
no, of course not. but pretending that that means it's easy is wrong
Whats happening now? just had a short but prductive time in the Garage.
im only about 6 -7 months learning properly, before that i was quite lazy and didnt know much, i feel like i know alot for my age
It's simple: just try to see things from a different perspective. I always do. I won't give in until I'm dead.
You probably do, just adopt a perfectionist mindset.
Also worth noting how wages have not matched productivity at all, so over-exerting yourself unnecessarily won't really benefit you in the long run
THAT'S perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean the job market is flush, which was the whole point of the convo
"the job market is great if you're fine with suffering!"
for sure man perfectionism is something that is a hit or miss, because some days if it doesnt start off well i dont see the point and wait for tmrw, but its good in the fact that it can push u to get things done, double edged sword really
You won't significantly influence the market on a macro level. The job market is great for people who are outstanding.
Eh. Job Market is what you make of it. Economy changes, Get a job you like/can do and live to those means
100% especially if you know how to control it.
I have hyperfocus for instance.
If you want a better job, up your skills and look around. Simple.
Exactly.
If theres jobs not available, then shrug. More time to work on your skills.
my guy -- you're trying to argue that the job market is good by saying it sucks for everyone who isn't 1 in 1,000,000
yeah dude some days I can effortlessly tune everything out and get about 10 pages of notes done before i gotta move onto some dif tasks
from experience, yes it does
Always great to get 'in the zone' though
I'll never do it; it's detrimental in the long run, it ruins you.
adderall isnt sold over the counter here i believe
eh. if you abuse it it can
u have to get it from a doctor
Then strive to be the one in a million. There's a reason why most people aren't thereβit's because they simply lack the capability.
Nah. just do what you do. but remember: Work to live, don't live to work.
idk where "here" is but in the US and Canada it's Rx only
Pretty sure it's medication for ADHD
These are amphetamines, they will nuke you no matter what.
modafinil isn't.
how the fuck do u guys know all these drugs
Very nice, I am like that as well. If you keep that mindset and work ethic, you will get far.
Adderall*
Vyvanse is way better.
oh no scary word -- just because something can mess you up doesn't mean it will in moderation
hope so, thanks
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modafinil is something else... similar like nootropic
Tom - personally I was studying to get into med school a few years back. Thats just stuff that came up π
i agree actually
oh damn what made u switch?
HOWEVER - Only take those drugs if prescribed by a licenced professional.
Ask any reputable doctor, and they'll tell you it's not sustainable to rely on Adderall. The side effects alone are detrimental.
Yes and even then do you own research.
I was in med school, but I'm in no position to start telling you randos what to take since I don't know you.
adderall = legal amphetamine
absolutely *looks around*
i did actually get a script tho
key word. Rely.
moderation is like 90% of life
If they genuinely have ADHD and are prescribed Adderall, they may need to rely on it as part of their treatment plan.
you shouldn't rely on many things
Tom - I passed the Graduate entry exams, and got opportunities from Dundee and Liverpool med schools, but after a loooong think, I'd be almost 50 by the time I graduate. Didn't seem worth the cost. Still, very interested in Medicine though
Meaning they will face tolerance and then side-effects.
Then they will switch to something else and so on.
Many individuals with Adderall prescriptions switch to Vyvanse or continue to use Adderall because Vyvanse tends to be more expensive.
Time to check out the new room, answer emails, and do some work. L8R
Well, luckily everyon hwere will only take tablets their doctors subscribe them
Ooh, Whats the new room?
You can learn on your own. I read a lot about pharmacology and genetics.
it's a blue room
Yeah... might give it a pop tomorrow
easy room too
I really wanna make a sign that is radar and once they hit over the speed limit, it shines "Slow The Fuck Down"
..you do realize that you don't need adderall if you have adhd, right?
it's an aide. it's optional in most cases. if it ruined you, then it wouldn't be used as a minor helper for people
caffeine even, is a common alternative
it's not like a life saving medication
509 - Yep, and i still read stuff out of interest. But ultimately its actually pointless to know as it's not something i'd know
I am saying if they're given Adderall to treat their ADHD.
they still don't need to rely on it
the doc giving them a treatment plan is their recommended maximum, not a minimum
It's good to learn about a variety of topics. I strive to be a polymath though. Takes insane amount of work.
release a small robot that runs at 50km/h and slashes their tires
So, Listen to your Doctor
lockhead martin or something will love that
Be careful.
I'm American, tf is that in MPH? lol
like 30
I liuke to take risks. And that risk is mitigated by talking to someone who knows what they are talking about
31
I'm discussing genuine ADHD cases where individuals are prescribed Adderall, meaning they depend on it since it's prescribed to them initially.
I know. I literally spoke before a judge about this just a month ago.
Many doctors have decent pharmacology knowledge but it's so-so, but generally, pharmacists tend to be more well-rounded.
The treatment plan is a recommended maximum in all but the most unusual of cases
not a "if you take less then this you will die"
Shrug. they know more than I do.
We call it CommuMeter.
GO FREEDOM UNITS!
we agree here, lol
it's what almost the whole world use to measure distance π
MPH*(5/8) == Kmph
Kmph*(8/5) == MPH
Discord ate my asterisks.
wut
'murica meep yeah
blah blah blah
murica meep yeah
Many doctors simply prescribe Adderall by listing ADHD symptoms without much concern. I'm not saying you're wrong, though.
Jayy, any interesting projects?
Then know more than them, it's your health after all.
My coursework? Not very interesting but has to be done sadly
merica, bugre rplease, make that a double and then double it again, + can i get a 1911 with 19 fully loaded rounds, and a 50km2 parking lot next to a laundromat, that will be all thanks
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It's actually bad how many so-called doctors have little actual knowledge.
Shrug. a Mechanic knows more than me about cars, but it's my car.
We can probably agree that it's highly overprescribed in children though
Absolutely, it's important to learn about mechanics. However, it's best to avoid self-medicating.
@glass nest might i dm one pic to help you fix laser ?
Was tempted to write it in LaTeX for the lols but not worth it, not uni level
Plus I wanna study other things too, and meet with friends and make stuff from wood.
i went and got myself a script in uni but i wouldn't want to put a child on it
ralex, cmon man. You never need to ask
Nah we need that FULLY Semi Automatic.
It's truly alarming how excessively overprescribed it has become. It's actually insane.
Whatever the fuck that means cough CNN cough
Jayy - Yeah, stick to what you know.
im going to chicago in may i think ill go to a gun range
Indeed, I'm comfortable in it but it'd take a lot longer than just plain .docx
gotta make it super safe π
Many kids are on Ritalin without understanding its long-term effects or potential side effects (the parents).
My CV is in LaTeX using overleaf
not a fan of overleaf but my resume is also latex
I took @hot cairn to a gun range here in NJ when she had a layover. She never shot a pistol before.
It's up to you and what makes you happy.
I just like being well rounded.
@hot cairn lame
fair enough Β―_(γ)_/Β―
She's shot rifles before though
thats pretty common, in my mind its crazy to believe that u can just shoot a gun
or a rifle or anything
Merica!
i prefer teaching out in the woods -- less bs to deal with
It's actually good.
That's natural here.
Especially in Texas with open carry, even better.
(no specific reason though, just personal preference)
I don't have a gun license lol.
i live in europe and the army in my country is tiny and the police arent armed at all
i literally have one on my hip right now, one on my desk, and one leaning on the corner behind me
Yikes.
what the fuck..
HOW
bro
damn
well just the ones within reach
Cause MERICA
If you don't have at least an ICBM stored somewhere, you're not adequately armed.
sig 365 on the hip, 320 on the desk, and a benelli monte at the corner
another thing i dont get is how people know so much about them
cause we own them
like how u can recognise one just from how it looks
I still need to get my firearms purchasing license. Grab myself a Scar L or H... mmmmmm
@loud marlin Gonna attach a fan to the laser PSU, in case it's only cutting out cos it's overheating
on a farm kekw
5.56 or 7.62 respectively
i feel like that recognition will come with time and exp, like most things
I'm not interested in discussing politics, but one aspect of Canada that I find problematic is its self-defense laws, which I think are quite unfavorable/garbage. One of the many reasons why I love the USA.
your wallet is gonna be sorry
might do yea...
I mean, tbh, its not an issue here really
So little confidence π
Oh yah. Think it's like 3 or 4k
as a dual citizen, i fly back and forth quite regularly. it annoys me
well... troubleshooting π
Also, my little air compressor gets as hot as the sun, so putting a couple of fans on that aswell
Just gotta work out powering them
Being dual citizen sounds like more pain then its worth
I don't know where you're located, but the rising number of robberies in Canada is chaotic. It's not as safe as it used to be.
Due to US Tax law lol
Maybe the PSU iself
QC
make some cover or so...
cant wait till im older, u can just buy and make shit whenever u feel like, especially if u got the money lol
i have no plans to move out of the US so no issue in either case (for me, at least)
ralex - I'll store it in the fridge
if i really cared enough i could get US PR/Citizenship, but meh
It can be challenging/impossible to properly protect yourself because, by definition, any action you take may result in charges against you.
id rather be in canada lol
that's normal yea lol
Montreal is chaos right now depending on the neighborhood.
If you do move, don't move to Quebec Canada... unless yo ass knows French
the only saving grace I have is that we're in AB, so it's one of the more tolerable parts of canada
Fine where i am
Law 101.
oregon looks amazing, not portland but the outskirts look amazing to live in
Quebec literally has there own immigration agency
or tbh anywhere that's not AB or the territories/yk
QC is the California of Canada
you don't need to wait, that sh*t will snick upon you without even realise π
no plan to visit either
eh i like it here
hope so lol
Yeah, Never get old. not worth it π
Relocating to ottawa next year though, to make it easier to get SO her PR
anyway ima go and finish off some THM rooms, cya guys some other time
I see what you mean, because seriously It's troubling to realize that even attempting to defend yourself could result in facing charges, which is genuinely scary.
Peace out Tom π
I'm not a fan of California at all. But Montreal was nice. Better drivers than the US lol
Not all of montreal though.
idek if Ottawa proper is an improvement or not
Depends not going to lie.
I mean ive never felt unsafe here, or the need to do anything to protect myself beyond just not being stupid
I didn't see many issues, couple of speeders, but no road rage.
What can Raspberry Pi be used for? I just saw it in a electro store
Depending where you live, trouble will find you.
Downtown
Depends on who you ask π
eh, most of the road rage is where you're at
south jersey is fine
well, on the scale of jersey
still sucks
Montreal is mostly fine
Certainly, there might be isolated cases, but road rage isn't that common yes. They are trash drivers though in general.
Octoprint for 3d printers, PiHole for ad blocking on your network, ADS-B, All sorts of things,
Rixon - Lots of stuff. I made an Arcade machine, a Pwnagotchi and some have made PiHoles. Mini computer, can be used for anything you want to computerise
Everywhere in Jersey sucks 
it's a very polarizing province, that's for sure
too hippie dippy and too much feelings π
Just think of it as a small computer
Would the ad blocker work for twitch too?
i'd invite ya out to the range but everyone on discord is a fed
We're talking about the same Montreal here yeah?
Yes Tim, we got the best pizza, alongside NYC.
Please donβt discuss bypassing ads on services, it is often against ToS.
just comparing QC and CA (well, that's what it was)
Hiya Jabz π been a while
Yeah but good drivers and Montreal don't go together
It's fine for the most part. Still language and so on is always an issue which people cry about a lot.
Yah, I drove in Montreal/ Quebec for a day. I didn't have many issues. Confusing road and parking signs, but other than that. It was easy
Most are genuinely bad.
Keep driving and you will see.
Ain't seen you around much!
Snowed under with Uni?
More English in Montreal than the rest of Quebec
Which is good.
tourism
Yes, quite busy π
Nah, just is
maybe outside Italy
Im just leaning some XSS, and I saw that the tel: URI scheme gets through DOMPurify, and it seems like it is able to run arbitrary js code like alert() through <a id=ok href=tel:alert(1337)> then calling ok. Why does this work, and is there a way for my to sanitize this workaround?
Counterpoint: Quebec city
OH @hot cairn can chime in. When I first got there, y'all know the diamonds to signify that it's a carpool lane? Yah, no. Montreal/ Quebec, that's to signify a bus/ taxi lane.
i cede
@shell nova I like English. Being bilingual is generally important.
Ruffle - Cmon man. Don't be spamming the same thing. If it's for a room #room-help
I need to keep learning greek
Sure
italy is different. idk i'd equate them, tbh.
Boi, if I'm a fed, you're the King of England.
A bus is a High Occupancy Vehicle. π
but yeah for pizza in the western world, NJ has it best
I drove into Ontario, I saw lol
only good thing from here
Also carpool in some places
it's the original and the best pizza in the world π
And TimT is here π All we need is james and CMN and we almost have a full set
They keep promoting French exclusively while English gets sidelined. Additionally, there are concerns within the education system where English institutions face potential defunding due to shifting policies and so on.
Yah, but here in NJ, that diamond signifies 3 or more passengers. Not JUST bus or taxi.
Haha, Toronto is chaos though. Same with Vancouver as a matter of fact.
Yeah I know, I was in English schools
or motorcycle
James lurks
no no. James Waits.
Toronto sucks
Nice.
It's hell on earth.
π
Real Estate market is radioactive, people drive like crap and so on.
Lived there a couple months
Pearson is terrible
Federal Express. π
productivity - i had a layover in Amsterdam airport... it's the same. it's amazing
is amsterdam really that bad
I wanted to learn Greek at first, but a while back, I switched to learning two other languages instead. Learning languages is super important and one of the best workouts for your brain.
Didn't see that one, just bus/taxi and only at certain times... and those signs were in French @hot cairn had to be my translator...........
Just could not translate gas pumps at all, which was ALL IN FRENCH
not so much... just big and expensive
Amsterdam Schiphol is pretty decent actually
Tbh its the most practical language for me to learn lol
Why move out exactly?
Aye. I've seen pics of Singapore airport... looks lit.
I had a layover in Amsterdam, I can't remember what I did while in Amsterdam
Let's just say that
I mean a gas pump is a gas pump... Put card take gas
Coop was over, and Toronto sucks
As long as it's not United Postal Service (Or whatever the name us for UPS) I'm happy.
United Parcel Service
cause they do parcels, not post
Well yes. But it asked me something in French I didn't understand, I just kept hitting No
I should go grab some snacks
Yah that
every language the doesn't use the latin alphabet it's a real challenge you need to read and write all over again, it's like you're 6 again π
legally speaking, UPS and FedEx can't do normal post at all
Last day of being lazy
only USPS can
Haha, that makes sense. Russian is my mother tongue, but I ended up learning German, French, and English. Grammatically, it's quite a mess to learn everything else.
Usually a good idea
@molten sky so when you taking me to the range?
Definitely, I struggled with it so bad.
constitutional monopoly on the postal service
Uninterupted Postal Stealing.β’οΈ
German and Russian are both grammar-intensive languages. French, on the other hand, has some illogical rules that can make learning ineffective and challenging.
English be like
Some rules actually don't make sense.
English is awesome.
After, Hebrew and Arabic, I'm not planning to learn other languages that doesn't use latin alphabet any time soon π
and weird
german isn't thaaaat bad imo, but it's not simple either
Haha, you are already way way ahead.
Oh Canada! π¨π¦
https://gizmodo.com/canada-moves-to-ban-the-flipper-zero-over-car-hacking-f-1851242790
German is fine not going to lie. French on the other hand, it's whatever.
How did you go about learning arabic?
Sun Chips hit hard on a nice weather day
chips.. that have fallen off the sun?
Not sure if that will do anything.
and landed on your raspberry pi?
french was my absolute least favorite class ever
I know Yiddish, so German is no strange to me, I also studied French, but being a latin language I can find similarities because I know latin, Spanish and Italian
the good thing about living alone now, is I can be awake all night getting my sleep schedule into night shift mode
Lmao, don't you need rolling codes for most morden cars nowadays?
I went to respond in French, but then remembered Rule 7 ^^;
hold up
Ngl, that sounds AMAZING. Sun chips on a raspberry pie.
northeast US?
I can see why some people might like French. While I can write well in it, I'm not fond of certain grammar rules. I prefer when things are logical.
cow's have weird aerodynamic...
esqyyyy
But they're the right sorta crunch
Do it in spoilers (if you don't mind).
It depends, but the current method of car theft is to walk up to someones front door with a repeater and extend the signal to the car
And not too heavy on the flavor
Whatsup bella? More adulting needed?
I have cigarette cravings!
and I messed up ordering my gym membership
why so?
What have you done, Bella?
Because they have weird shapes. You could say the same about hippos. Although they are more aerodynamic, I would say they're like the next level of cows.
I accidentally chose a different version that didn't have student discount, so now I have to talk to a physical person tomorrow
oh btw @loud marlin Thank you for you help with the laser
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on a saturday?!?!?!
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who wants to talk to people on a saturday
what if the cow was spherical?
And in a vacuum?
I used to mess around with that a lot when I was younger too. I would ponder which animal is best designed for racing and how you could test that. Looking back, I guess I really didn't have much of a life back then (I was bored in school).
I live in Jerusalem, I speak Hebrew and my neighbourhood there are a lot of arab own stores, also I live in the arab part of the old city and I had many arab coworkers so it was convinient, plus both languages are from the same family so share similarities
Productivity - That would just be a cow egg, right?
Israel π but I was born in Argentina
I need to do CFD analysis on it to see if it'll work.
Israel's cybersecurity efforts are quite impressive. I admire their work in this field.
They do incredible things.
Elaborate.
yes, we are top notch, but it's a hard field to breakthrough a lot of competition and super prepare people
Hello there. I just wanted to ask about the OSCP exam, is it necessary to take the course so you can take the exam
that explains the yiddish. all the jews around here speak yiddish, while most of the continent is hebrew. so my mind was like wait maybe heβs from this part of the country
A spherical cow would be a cow egg. So might just be easier to go to a cows nest and take one.
itβs entertaining being able to understand whatβs spoken but have absolutely no clue whatsoever what a single building says
The course and exam are technically independent
OSCP is the cert, PEN-200 is the course
So yes, you can take the cert without the course
Absolutely, I've read about Unit 8200 for example. They truly attract and release highly skilled individuals.
Esqyy
Thank you, so that means i can just scheduel the exam whenever i want to with no requirements?
How you doing bro
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Acesss
Productivityyyy
hiya Aces π
technically
I lived in NYC for a while. My grandma from my father side was from Poland hence the Yiddish π
ayyyy so you were local
nice
I mean, afaik there's no way to buy one without the other
I know some Polish! 'Polski Sklep'. Only cos there used to be one opposite my office π
It really depends on your skill level, but read the course just to get into the right mindset is crucial. Also do proving grounds extensively, I mean a lot.
So would be a bit dumb to spend a grand and a half and ignore the coursework
Yeah, I spotted that - When did it go up?
Thank you!
That said, the course does not help with the mindset 
Try harder mentality.
that's the top of the top, actually the owner of Cybereason was from that unit π
iβve began to question this tbh. normally, i agree. but if youve got the cash to blow and you ARENβT going to get a formal education (& the degree), itβs not THAT bad
That's not what's important for the exam, honestly
Itβs Friday woohoo
but for most people who have an Edu absolutely not worth it
It's more about whether you can manage your time and not panic
@pallid lotus Quick DM?
/me panics
Yeah, go for it
no!
Witnessing their work is incredibly motivating and impressive. They never fail to inspire me.
Hey, quick sanity check. My ex-employer wants me to not mention "JunOS" and "IOS-XE", but "Juniper" and "Cisco" are okay, when talking about what I worked with when under their employ.
Am I the only one who thinks this is bull?
Honestly, I have a strong background in CTF so I always have that try harder mentality, but from what I've gathered, dedicating ample time to proving grounds is highly recommended over platforms like HTB for instance.
I might be wrong though.
Just had a check now, you're right
Thatβs weird
Nah, aside from some of the proving grounds boxes being built by Offsec devs (and I'd be astounded if none of the HTB ones were), a CTF box is a CTF box. OSCP might be a CTF but it's on a whole other level stress wise.
Yeah, I remember when you were doing it
Maybe itβs so itβs more broad then just saying you worked with junOS
But JunOS is under Juniper.
snakes have legs
To add to this, no signed NDA or nothing. They could spare themselves that stuff if they'd have me signed an NDA...
I like stress. I plan to take the OSCP next year.
Good luck!
Yes. Exactly. NetBox is also unmentionable, for whatever fucking reason, lol.
"People can connect the dots through LinkedIn/Xing and see what we have!"
scream
i mean, juniper and cisco mightt still be better than junos and whatever tho
From what I've heard, OSCP is very gimmicky. Can people attest to that?
Great minds for sure not only on cyber, in tech in general, ICQ, Waze, The Intel 8088 ( created and develop in Haifa), Smartphone dual lens technology, the flexible stent, etc
will the random hr person know what junos is? eh. juniper on the other hand is frequently mentioned
Glorified CTF from what I've gathered
It's not HR having that discussion with me, it's my direct boss. 
noβfor future employers, when applying
ello mac
will the random ass hr person know what junos is instead of juniper is what i mean
Aaaah. Well, usually I get past HR drones quickly and into a room with the technical team.
then no issue there
Thatβs what I think the employer wants. Just mentioning something under a big company can be kinda nity gritty. If you mention juniper and Cisco the employer can ask you directly what you did when you worked there
Thanks, I regularly do HTB (I would say I can do most hard machines if I dedicate the time to it or when I am motivated). I also thoroughly reviewed and still review the course syllabus regularly and master the material before investing in that course. Not sure if there is anything else I can do to prepare myself.
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Yes and no.
It's definitely not uber realistic, but I've yet to see anything in practice which is.
In terms of a test of technical ability and (more to the point), attitude / ability to complete complex tasks on a deadline? It's pretty good.
I'd still have to say "Sorry, not allowed to talk about it" if asked what I did with Juniper or Cisco devices.
yeah
So that's kinda moot.
I like TCM's, as they tend to mimick real world a bit more
Indeed, it's incredibly impressive. Hats off to them for their achievements.
i love that answer. βsorry, signed an nda, next qβ
Yeah just say that
Not in vain we're are the start-up nation π
Good evening guys
Hello Anubis
It seems like the 24-hour exam period plays a significant role during the examination as a pressure point. However, CPTS appears to be quite better. Still won't get the same recognition.
Is there a command in linux i can create a txt file that includes a word + numbers
nano file
vim file
Wut
code file
cat << EOF > "1- Anubis1"
Contents
EOF
wordlist genrator or smth
I was hoping to get responses from those who have taken it
Oh, just throw it through a bash loop
for i in {1..10000}; do touch "$i Anubis$i"; done
When I started the job, I was joking that that'd be the answer to most if not all questions asked by future employers.
Oh, and: The text they want me to remove is from an official document they sent me which will be used in my jobhunt should I again change employers.
Probably should have tested that first, but meh
Hmm
won't that create a 10000 files?
It's literally from something I am requested to show to future employers, lol.
Isn't that what they were wanting?
I will try copy pasting it
Oh
Nope
I thought they meant as in one file
OH
1 file
LMAO
No, do not run that
Indeed, Israel's reputation for creating startups and leading in the field of information technology is awesome. It serves as an excellent example for others to aspire to and learn from.
Do not run that

and kids this is why we make sure we understand the command we run before pasting it
#rules π ehhehe
From what I've gathered from those who've completed the CPTS, it seems to offer a more comprehensive and effective experience compared to the OSCP. It's also like 10 days in total the CPTS exam. Personally I will only get it for the paper, CPTS genuinely seems way better.
So i can simply create a txt file
And then nano it
And from there i make a command
what are you trying to achieve here
π
that will be weird homework
And commands
The teacher will join this chat.
Canβt you just echo and make a list use python. Or are you asking to actually save a .txt file
Nah, it's a fairly typical Linux 101 question for a degree
Save a txt file
gotta hit em with the spicy rm to be sure
@pallid lotus Do you recommend OSED and OSEE?
So those first 2 commands?
Ideally I would love to aim for that. Good luck even getting a voucher though to pass the exam/course.
work sponsored
I haven't done OSEE. I do recommend OSED though. It's a good introduction to binex / re / shellcoding. Gave me a much better understanding of how these fricken' rocks think
Very nice.
like that description
Thinking rocks are spooky
Anyone know any good Linux learning rooms. I already completed the Linux basics path
Bring back Spooky.
Nah, I doubt you could get Spooky to rejoin if you paid him π
Kick him.
Does it tackle extensively : ASLR, DEP, SEH and so on? Or that's OSEE.
That's why he's pissed off in the first place 
not a room but overthewire is good
I know, I know
Definitely good, it's fun.
Is it a website?
Oh itβs a game but for hackers
You have many subgames under overthewire.
@crude stump https://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php check this out as well
Linux Command Line Books by William Shotts
Like bandit is good if you are legit new.
Reasonably extensively. It goes very in depth on the topics it does cover.
It's not going to teach you every ASLR or DEP bypass, but it covers ret2libc (or, ret 2 winapi anyway) and read/write primitives well. SEH yes it goes into mind numbing detail over
OSEE is kernel pwn 
I am actually really interested into that. I will definitely aim for OSEE after OSED.
Good luck. It's apparently a nightmare and a half
I mean I know the basics so I guess I would be considered new
Gonna leave that for a decade at least I think 
Thanks jayy
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That's even better.
and if you really want to go deep https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
I do not fancy OSEE before I turn 30. I very much doubt I'd come out of that one with hair and no wrinkles
Yoo
My own Linux system would go crazy
With a name like Archie, you're not already? /s
Weesht

I agree, It works
I know you're name isn't Archie.
I need some tip, how can i test in a web application the 'Contact' functionality ??
Absolutely, if it's going to challenge my skills and help me become more well-rounded, then I will jump right in. I am already crazy. Can't get crazier than that.
@pallid lotus have a 
Oh Jerusalem, thats cool. Nice to speak to a fellow argentine though
Oh for God's sake Esqy 
For some reason, the print screen key does that in my VM.
Takes a million screenshots.
π
Then freezes.
You're back to the old account? 
Are you in arg or left too?
nah; just decided to visit I don't use this account for cybersec stuff anymore
Which room is this
Faiiiiiir
UK. I am a traitor too lmaooo
@timber galleon Prodan? π
Hey guys, I need to save a screenshot of an active application to disk. I am trying to do this using import -window ID <filename.png> -silent method but executing it brings the active window on top. Is there a way to do it without bringing the application in front?
Use Greenshot
i prefer Blueshot
Use Share X
Flameshot
Its a external ctf
commandline friendly?
scrot is cli friendly iirc?
No, Don't use Share X. Only heathens use that. Greenshot4lyfe
I can't understand 1 thing
Why did it change the i before anubis and after anubis to 1-10000
The script made 1000 number files
nothing wrong in looking for a better quality of life, but I miss the asado π When I go to visit my family is all what I ate, and some empanadas too
And didn't change the i in anubis itself
Well I've spoken to lots of people who've completed both. Some who've completed the CPTS found the OSCP trivial. Many going through the docs for OSCP finding it lacking compared to CPTS, some claiming they went and sat the OSCP exam weeks or days after getting CPTS.
OSCP is still considered valuable by hr departments and clients due to its reputation, for most junior pentesters. But you also require a lot more than that. CPTS does teach you how to conduct a pentest on a fictional company network but I'd also consider doing things like picoCTF and many of the paths in THM and other online services and improve your skills, because, realistically, no certification on the market truly prepares you for a pentesting role
Zactly. So now you know what I'm about Scrubz π
Scoped variable in the loop. $i relates to the for i in the loop statement
100%, I will do all. Thanks for your input.
this reminds me of 
I thought it was a clan π π
This would work as well:
for number in {1..10000}; do echo "$number Anubis$number" >> file.txt; done
hey, now that I'm not a CM I can totally wreck havoc by posting shred commands /s
Definitely way more recognized, CPTS will never get the same recognition though (at least not any time soon).
Ma1ware for CM.
Is that even still in the rules?
jabba, Legs? I thought you just floated around like Slimer from Ghostbusters

Overthewire for Linux skills, Underthewire for a Powershell site in similar style
Wow
I still have so much to learn
So basically the βfor i in 1..1000β prints out a range of numbers from 1 to a thousand. The do echo i puts those numbers in front of the Anubis. Then you convert it into a txt file and he opened thus text file
Nice, I will check that out because I hate PowerShell.
Bugger. It is
What about "Throughthewire"?
π
Phew I was about to make up an excuse as to why it wasnβt
There's currently only 250ish CPTS holders in the world. Estimates about OSCP holders are 15-30,000 but there are no official numbers
Do it anyway.
Honestly after today, I wish I did
Rule update soonβ’οΈ
Have you added the no-minimodding rule back in yet?
Itβs on the list
the never ending list
Nope 
Don't tell the mods what to do
Don't add that! I'll be rendered useless!
I mean did we ever get native dark mode/2fa??
Well, more useless
2FA yeah
Redered 
Wow have you even been on the website smh
not for the past 2 years lol
I'm determined to earn the OSCP certification first, followed by either the CPTS (if I continue on the pentesting certification path) or OSED.
ma1ware is in imposter.
I hate Powershell too but only cos I suck at it and it doesn't make sense yet but it can work wonders when you're doing things on a Windows box. Being a good pentester does require you to have good sysadmin skills π
There is one absolutely amazing addition to the site which I really want you to see, my friend π
oh?
Mal has always been an imposter
Syntax is trash though but I still have to learn it.
π
nooo
Dark mode is part of our front end rebuild @serene canyon
https://tryhackme.com/r/resources/blog/tryhackme-improvements
Cheater.
Imagine I clear it
Looks like Greenshot and Share X are for windows or MAC, am I wrong? I need one for Linux
Eh,
A) Power abuse
B) It'll just come back 
A) Cry about it
B) inb4 site ban
For legal reasons this is a joke
Many who've done coth CPTS and OSCP say that OSCP is only really hard because their documentation doesn't cover a few critical pieces that are covered in the CPTS course. The Try Harder motto is only relevant because OffSec literally Tried Less
nice; so that was actually implemented lol
site ban me I dare you @mossy river
you can't even if you wanted to
Not yet 
I said itβs part of the front end rebuild, not weβve added it 
Genuine question actually: what happens when a user with public rooms is banned?
let's test that theory muir
Right. Who we banning? 
Muiri gets banned
u ofc
flameshot
Yeah I suck at Powershell, it's just nonsensical to me, but then, I am a Linux nutter anyway
But but but but but... my ASCII art π’
Just a guess. Itβs pure the room creator as guest. Or some place holder. Donβt quote me
Don't the rooms just become TryHackMe's?
I lose my job 
I donβt think anything happens to them
can it be used in command line?
Go install PowerShell on Linux 
Yup
Im just leaning some XSS, and I saw that the tel: URI scheme gets through DOMPurify, and it seems like it is able to run arbitrary js code like alert() through <a id=ok href=tel:alert(1337)> then calling ok. Why does this work, and is there a way for my to sanitize this workaround?
It's nice to know. I usually go beyond the curriculum by about 20 or 50% after finishing the course. I continue doing both activities. I might actually do CPTS first since I am literally close to finish the course.
ok trying π thnks
Do you wanna start a bar fight?
sudo apt install pwsh ez
It doesn't have all the features you need on a Windows box π
at least that should work
Can I get on the action
Iβll get the bottles
Reckon they just show up as belonging to the randomly generated account names you get when an account is deleted?
No, it's just PoSH Core. Still, do it

Can't ask a scot that. It's practically a national pastime
Yes. Been ages since I've had a good bar fight
see?

Whoβs getting hit first
I mainly use Linux, but I stick to the basics without much customization. Once I dive into exploit development for Linux, I'll really get into it.
Ah hell I forgot about that.
π
Bar gladiator fights would go crazy
I think you'd benefit. One challenging point for CPTS though, is that you have to 100% complete the course before you're allowed to do the exam, and I'm not going into any more detail on that in this Discord π
I am assuming that room data might be deleted along with their account
Iβd have to look into it. I believe we have had people delete their account with public rooms in the past
that and wearning a skirt for some reason
forgot whats that called
Or timtaylor would know
Yeah, genuinely interesting
Or is that Irish
Yeah, he's just being cheeky

Oh
Kilts are Scots, aye
Well that is certainly a topic to discuss in #advanced-general
Mal? Cheeky? NEVER!
Scottish, and it's called that cause that's what I did to the last person that called a skirt, "I kilt them" /s
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.
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I'm sure they were originally French
Yes definitely a bit advanced.
I actually canβt take Scottish people seriously. Their accents are adorable
Cheeky is basically Mal's defining personality trait
Sqaure go, ootside!
Apparently for it to be considered a true kilt you have to be free balling it
... You've never been to Glasgow or Aberdeen, have you 

Wouldn't surprise me
I've been to Aberdeen π
You ever been to a Scottish wedding?
I just walk around pissing Scots of just so I can hear them be angry
Don't have to that in Glasgow, just wait at a bus stop.
Iβve been Otturburn and that place with the castle with the dog grave yard
Edinburgh?
Iβm assuming that a dog grave yard is a pretty distinct featureβ¦
dog grave yard huh
If plans went differently, I'd be in Dundee right now
Dundee. pft.
Edinburgh Castle Dog Cemetery
I've been to weddings with Scottish people at it
Let's just say it's a great place to go if you're interested in a mass flashing lmfao
Possibly, if itβs not too far off Otturburn military base then yes
π

Would that be Greyfriars Bobby's grave..?
im sry wat
there are lots of flash lights there? 
i missed some context i think
Traditionally when you wear a kilt you free ball
We do.
Kilts.
Even Scottish men don't have a whole lot of experience at remembering to cross their legs when sitting down in a skirt
I'm banned from wearing it at a race soon. π
Gonna be flashing literally everyone lmao
Well whaddya know, there actually is a dog graveyard
Honestly, rate the Scottish for it
We have a few pet graveyards.
If youβd a cat one, thatβs points deducted
Well, Dogs were important in the highlands in ye olden days
Dogs are important period
Agreed.
My dog has been misbehaving recently
Donβt diss the cats
I miss my dogs so much
Keeps going upstairs on my bed when I'm on my computer
bash and ollie!

Ew
Mate Iβve had like 8 cats
Good
Yeah π¦
Yeah π¦
π¦
RIP
Almost in-line
haven't seen bash in a while tho
Put one more h
Yeah π¦
Nvm
or.. a space?
There we go
Muir lmk if you ever decide to change the Ollie thing on your website, or send me all the pics and Iβll move it onto the box
Maybe a π§ woudl be more aprops
Yeah, I genuinely need to remember about that API when I shift my blog off the legacy infra π
@dark obsidian I demand pics of bash. Thank you.
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Sir muiri with the little top hat
weird bot
Dissing robocop should be a crime
Hahah, fortunately the bot shouldnβt crash but itβll just be an empty embed
This is all an assumption
Nah
Down with robocop
Well now this I gotta try
NOoo
I canβt wait until I have the time to replace robocop
I'm almost number one for rep
L
wat
Donβt replace my homeboy robo
james fell off the leaderboard ig
new room today
As soon as Iβve converted it to a service this wonβt be a problem 
Weβre updating the framework which is when I plan to make it a service
a lil different
No, he's still numberone
hello everyone
I think I'm at 19. Not bad for having 2 years away π
Nop
How the hell are you still running that without a service? 
Hola
Dockerise it
does someone can help me ?
Hopes and prayers
that makes much more sense
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Yes,
no one want help...
?
Iβll let CMNatic handle that π€£
I was hoping I could make it so the boxβll just update automatically when I push changes but Iβve not a clue how to do that yet
Itβs part of my r&d in my spare time
thanks ACES
helps if you tell us with what you need help with
so i'm just a newbie
You're looking for a CI/CD config there
@mossy river you should remove RoboCop one point before scrubz becomes #1 hehe
i'm on a room name is vulneribility
i got issu 'bout a thing that i don't understandΓΉ
#room-help would be best π
Swing over to #room-help
"Find a form to upload and get a reverse shell, and find the flag."
Oop
okay
Yup, Iβm going to setup testing on the repository and then figure out how to deploy it on the box
Iβm assuming CMNatic knows how to so Iβll bug him closer to the time
Iβve done it already with CloudFormation but I donβt need to create a new EC2 each time
Cmon scrubs stole my spot light
Even if I canβt replace it, Iβll just disable the rep module
Type faster 
AceS, Thats where he gets the big bucks from π
He gets what now
Personally, I genuinely would do it in docker. Make it so that a new image gets built automatically whenever a new release is created, then get the box to pull it down and restart. Whole thing should theoretically be doable in Github Actions
k8s is the obvious answer
isn't gitlab better for that sort of stuff?
Yup, I know you can dockerise with GitHub Actions
I couldn't find a way to take a screenshot of a specific open window/app using flameshot, only full screen captures. Any other ideas? π
Dockerise everything.
I have a private repo with all that
I see now
Yes, but THM use Github 

I use GitHub, itβs my code
I own the full rights to the discord bot
I just dockerised a samba server
Because I just got my new media server up and running. It's already got Jellyfin, Caddy, and Duplicati containers
Figured I should just go all in and do the whole thing in docker 
sounds like some sort of inception
Only issue is that for some inane reason, Windows is refusing to connect to it by its domain name
IP works fine
Domain, not so much lmao
let me find the dns meme
It's always DNS
see
(But no, seriously, I don't think this one actually is)
My guess is credential cache
It was not credential cache
Hey everyone here are volunteers, please be patient
This is the Internet, there are only bits and bots here. π
So you want to put a virus on it? Sounds counter intuitive
Well that's believable 
Iβm sure if you install random APKβs youβll eventually get a virus
Iβm actually wanting to start a .NET homelab to practice testing and fixing a bit more. I need to improve my implementation skills with fixes to web apps
i was the first to ask....
FILO
I was thinking the same thing π
By putting a virus on it⦠right?
Buy a Pegasus license?
You know what a virus is donβt you?
oh, Honey.
Huh
but you asked for a virus?
You want to install a virus but donβt want to get a virus
speaking of did you hear about the toothbrursh ddos thing that was going around on twitter@pallid lotus

I'm so sad that it was fake
Haber - Go get some sleep.
Yeah, the one that was total bs? 
at work still
How about you go and learn the basics..? You seem way out of your depth here
for another 2-3ish hours
you can get a vaccine π
Haber - Get paid to sleep
Let's roll things back. Describe to us what you believe a virus is.
Sweetie, you a "virus" is just software that's doing something you don't really want it to do
wtf
It's no different from any other software
That's a worm 
is there a separate room for IT discussions?
Shhh
You're better'n this Jabz
hahaha, nah, working on clearing out the tickets that were assigned to a HD tech who just quit
self-propagation is a worm, yeah
so
Yep 
As the creator of the history of malware room, that is a virus
please guys
Disagree and I will just start crying
Ok, thats another layer of irony
just smh
I disagree
Is a 


Typical French
hey bro this fckin is asking help righ here
π₯
Just out of interest, who is the primary user of this device?
π
Itβs only a worm if it moves between devices
Yeah, not a virus necessarily. Words have meanings, often understanding those meanings is a shortcut to understanding the technologies they describe.
alright I'll stop the trolling here: no, this is an ethical hacking server. Please do not ask for that sort of thing. Besides, there's likely legit software that will allow that sort of thing
If you continue to ignore staff and ask for help here and be rude, you will be muted
"legit software"
How much should I know before I approach Wreath network?
In this case Mobile Device Managers, and Remote Access Tools.
i already asked at help room
no one care about me
Someone help please
bad staff
wreath
Legitimate software, used by every corporation.
interesting
yeah
Should be, seems to have a legit use case
It is. What youβre asking isnβt hacking, itβs just silly
theres always one guy
"how do i hack xyz" "can someone hack for me"
Whats the conensus on not-taking software?
you missed the ethical part, my friend
Obsidian isn't opening for me
Arguable. That stuff is nearly always just used by domestic abusers unfortunately
Obsidian and Trillium are the main ones iirc
Learn the basics.
That was pretty entertaining at least
Clearly
Trilium. Always Trilium
I am a Notion enjoyer. Discords I'm in, everyone preaches to the high heavens about Obsidian. I've never used it
Youβre installing random files from people on telegram
nerd π
unfortunately a lot of illegitimate use cases as well
-unmute 1050059419083346011 auto mod donβt say the same thing over and over
π Unmuted addmewiththis

Notes? I never got into them. I just use notepad++ and now git.
I use heptabase personally
Im just leaning some XSS, and I saw that the tel: URI scheme gets through DOMPurify, and it seems like it is able to run arbitrary js code like alert() through <a id=ok href=tel:alert(1337)> then calling ok. Why does this work, and is there a way for my to sanitize this workaround?
anyways, you can probably abuse the ADB

Where did you get this supposed virus from?

Everyone here must confess the supreiority of vim or suffer a fate worse than death ||blobknife||
now now, be nice please or I'll be forced to mute you

trash
eh, it's fine
I used Notion before, but wanna get into something different for my next push at this geekyness
Jesus Christ your story is less consistent than my pasta sauce
I feel sorry for your pasta
Will send you a recipe
Neovim w/ lazyvim template + copilot
please do
as long as it's not emacs
it's fine
nano sucks as well though
My school have somehow managed to download software on my computer. Now, it is only Adobe Express, however I did not know that this was going to occur, and I feel that the principle of it is incorrect. Do you guys think it is reasonable of me to reach out to someone and ask that this doesn't happen again?
I've heard recently recipes are not copywriteable. /Trivia
it's also fine, depending on use case
