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Uh... I guess?
Okay now not many people know about this but discord actually saves deleted photos to your harddrive, I'm not sure where the folder is (Search it up) but maybe you could do some sort of OSINT/ Room on discord to do with that
It's quite concerning actually as somebody could post some rude images and if you happen to be afk on the channel, even if they deleted it, it would still be on your hard drive
Oh and what about a stegonagraphy box? (Hiding text in text, hiding images in images, hiding text in images etc
If you go to hacktivities and filter by steganography you'll find a bunch of rooms
If you go to hacktivities and filter by steganography you'll find a bunch of rooms
@somber fractal There are no steno rooms in there
Theres some steno but not many.
It has more crypto than steno
If you search it you'll find it 🤷♀️
We have so much stego it's banned from rooms 
I mean, there's a very heavy stego box coming soon, I'm supposed to test it 👀
I think it would be nice to update blue room removing the part of converting shell to meterpreter , a lot of times I see people confused in help chats wondering why it doesn't work since now the exploit creates a meterpreter shell already
^^
Trust me, between myself and James, we must have added it to Dark's To-Do list about six times 
It's Cry's room
Reject it if it doesn't come up to the guidelines @lament star
@native raptor no, no don’t do that, muiri it’s my box that’s stego heavy don’t reject that’s bad
no
Do we have any room that teach how to create a better security configuration on Window and Linux operation system?
there are 2 rooms coming out soon
^ both are for linux
nice
is there a room for pfsense? or wil there be a room for pfsense
and also security onion?
Security Onion would be nice as a Network.
There's a pfsense endpoint in Throwback.
But I don't think anywhere else on the platform.
is there a room for pfsense? or wil there be a room for pfsense
@feral fable due to the aws restrictions we can’t easily run these machines, it’s something we can discuss though what would you like to see from a pfsense room? There’s not a crazy amount of vectors for it
I did one on CSL, and I'm like almost completely certain it required admin privileges even to run it. So getting command execution from a pfsense vulnerability lands you on the admin/root account anyways. Not a ton of work or learning to do there (if you're thinking offensively).
I did get pfSense up in AWS just before Heaven started that I was developing on
creating suricata rules, general management of it) but I put it on hold to see what his plans were.
I'll touch base with them and ask re. it
But yesss please let us know what you'd like to see from it
From what I know as Im officially working on the blue path we dont have any plans for it currently, but I also have yet to see the entire plans
due to the aws restrictions we can’t easily run these machines
this is very, very, very truee
we can it just means the room will def be subscriber because we have to specifically request from skidy and ashu to pull down a pfsense box from the marketplace
Mhm okies, I got the previous nod before that started. I'll bring it up for discussion
yea defo
I can't remember if it was Azure or AWS that I maanged to do some tom foolery to get the community edition running
Hey guys I am not sure if there is a room already being created for this topic but I will just in case. Could we have a room that dives into teach ICS security and hacking? I know that ICS is a growing area for cybersecurity and it would be really great for people to get some hands on training and knowledge.
@quaint brook there is actually a room already in the queue for it, rooms for ICS and SCADA can de difficult due to the systems needed and they can be hard to virtualize
Do we have any room for programmable logical controller
@feral fable due to the aws restrictions we can’t easily run these machines, it’s something we can discuss though what would you like to see from a pfsense room? There’s not a crazy amount of vectors for it
@karmic raven sorry for the late reply
i was actually thinking of creatin a room for it but if its going to create some restrictions i guess ill think of something else
security onion would take a lot of time to create too
I have an idea for a room. Maybe a room for the new nobodys /home privesc?
@native raptor you legend
It'll be interesting getting it to work on AWS, but possibly possible
Looked like a real interesting privesc to do
When approved but unreleased, is there a release agenda?
Yes there is, it’s scheduled to release December 12th currently
python,js Room 
@waxen spruce If you're suggesting, then we already have them
hahah ok i didnt saw them
@merry ice Thank you for your feedback! It really means a lot.
I was wondering if you guys at THM have a limitation on CPU size for submissions? I have a really cool scenario to finish making that requires 1.7GHz assigned to each instance and dual core processing.
Typically it’s a small aws instance but it can be boosted if need be. I can’t even think of the top of my head which instances we use. @remote socket would have more insight
Thank you kindly ping me with a response when you have more details 🙂
@foggy quest by default the boxes deploy with t2.micro for your needs you would need a t2.medium instance which Im not sure whether they would deploy or not again its really a skidy and ashu thing
yeah Im fairly curious what needs that specific of an instance
would you like to discuss in pm?
if you want 🤷♂️
Room Intro to x86-64 task4 The following questions involve analysing the if2 binary.
it would be nicer to bold the text if2
lost half an hour to analysis on if1
Secure Coding / White box penetration testing - Show the various vulnerabilities found within web applications and their corresponding insecure code (OWASP TOP 10) and how to secure it. Show security libraries like helmet to help with secure coding
@karmic raven I am working on this 👀
@merry ice right now there's a reason that isn't in place, as it would have an unintended side effect.
That said. The room creator, an admin, Bee, CMNatic, or myself, can reset you.
A room about mainframes, how to hack them and how to prevent them from being hacked (a series maybe? 🤔 )
Mainframe being... what specifically?
Bearing in mind it's basically a big server
We have hundreds of those 😆
Nmap has a good amount of mainframe scripts. Most written by the same guy.
Mainframe being... what specifically?
Bearing in mind it's basically a big server
@native raptor They're more specialised OS wise
I'd have thought it would depend on the application?
no I mean actual mainframe like IBM System z14
with different OSes
z/OS as example
Good luck virtualising that
@native raptor I know lol
I just wanted to propose this room idea as it's a thing that I've been digging in the last month but it's a huge topic to cover alone
Maybe THM community can be of help and benefit from this
A room about mainframes, how to hack them and how to prevent them from being hacked (a series maybe? 🤔 )
@tacit anvil we have no mainframe specialists really on the team, an internship that I’ve been offered will be focusing on mainframe hacking but there’s a lot that has to happen before that internship. If I do get I will be sure to bring over any knowledge I gather
@karmic raven Internship about mainframe hacking? Can I ask more about that? 😂 Anyway, nice! I hope you can share as much as possible when you can.
no i cannot disclose anymore
It will be a majority of global compliance on a large scale
I see. And what did you studied in university (if you did) to receive such an offer?
a room that covers basic digital privacy? this could reach more ppl then just ppl who study infosec.
id love to make one when i have free time.
pls change the flags in every machine ( koth)
yt videos have flags without blur which makes it easy to copy paste
no use of playing
so pls change the flags everytime
@steady hornet @storm canyon
I asked skidy about this long ago, acc to him, the site cannot handle random flags atm. It's really easy to add in boxes, but site is a different level.
No idea how long it will take.
yt videos have flags without blur which makes it easy to copy paste
@hybrid forge IMO, going for king is the way to win, even if other players have all flags, if you are king, then they stand no chance in defeating you.
^^
Autogenning flags is easy. I've had a script for that for months
Just waiting on an update to the site, which will hopefully be more likely when there is a new dev on board to take some of the work
Yes I’m v eager for the new dev
Is there a possibility of making rooms to teach some “basics” on RE & Pwn challenges please? I mean from Zer0 experience the way there are for Web, Crypto, Osint & the rest. That’ll be nice
Tbh I’m not sure what the basic RE room is like for somebody with Zero knowledge to begin with, get familiarize with tools & scenarios & stuff. If there is please share a link with me thanks.
@shy coral let me tag u in #infosec-general
hello
Hi there!
This channel is for sharing ideas for TryHackMe rooms.
If you'd like somewhere to chat generally, there's #general
Chev & Robin, I think?
@light lynx I have the code from Robin for a small challenge he wanted to build, i got the VM ready, just need to upload the binaries
but that is Pwn as far as i am aware
and RE is a wide topic which i pretty much suck overall, i would rather leave that in the capable hands of @lunar plank to talk about RE in the aspects of deobfuscation, apk RE and any other things that come into place

Woohoo 🙂
Erm... /your-material shows "Problem converting VM." And if I click on Ckeck prerequisites I'm stuck in "You are already uploading"-loop. Reset Upload doesn't change anything 😦
Oh no.... Can someone pls kill hit me? I made a Ubuntu 20.04.1 vm... 
No, I'm still in phase 2 "This shouldn't ever happen"
Kek Relax you’d figure it out I’m certain
Yeah, I have to do a new VM... with Ubuntu 18.04...
Yeah AWS doesn’t support 20.04
Uploading again 🙂
I really have to say, that I LOVE scp now! It really helped me a lot getting files from 20.04 to 18.04!
more rooms on malware analysis
@fervent sparrow
Yes only a few of those room Acully exist
Yeah, that's the eventual roadmap - the malware stuff takes a lot of time to develop, and since starting at THM those rooms are rooms that I work outside of THM on the odd occasion
Once my workload decreases I can put more time into devving them outside of work (:
I'm struck while solving year of the owl room, any hints for this I've analysed smb but no clues. If anyone solved this pls do give me some hints
This channel is for suggestions for new tryhackme rooms
a room geared towards soc analysts? since they’re required to sift through logs all the time, maybe have different tasks dedicated to analysing different logs ie. common windows event logs, palo alto logs, cisco logs etc
I might be able to do some Palo Alto stuff in the near future
a room geared towards soc analysts? since they’re required to sift through logs all the time, maybe have different tasks dedicated to analysing different logs ie. common windows event logs, palo alto logs, cisco logs etc
@sudden garnet me and Sam are working on the blue team path slowly working it out, it will be towards that soon, the investigating windows room has some of it I believe
Cry hmu about palo alto
We can pull logs and artifacts
I know some things about sysmon/evtx logs if needed
ngfw stuff james ? 👀
@sudden garnet I don't know yet, but I get access to some training material.
i can maybe start a room purely focused on log analysis if you wanted to chime in too tux 👀
oh yeah there stuff is really good on their website
their
a room on NxLog would be cool as well. Log format convertion, pulling specific event Codes from the event viewer, etc..
Are room creators remunerated if they create a VIP-only room ?
Usually subscriber only rooms are commissioned by the admins
Marking it as subscriber only of your own accord doesn't mean you get money
Ok so they never was a room creator that got money. It was just to know what the VIP-only option was about.
Yeah it’s really just for commissioned creators to set as subscriber rooms no point to set it when it’s a community room
Many others have
But if you enable it of your own accord, why would that make a difference?
Ok I now that some platform like root-me are paying a few bucks for challenge so I wanted to know if there is a way that THM buy me a room to make it VIP-only for example. I understand I can't be a commissioned creator.
You can become one.
There is no official process? Is is about being active on discord? Making several good public rooms?
Making several good public rooms? This one IIRC
@pseudo hedge Its pretty much make a few good rooms or make a very high quality room that impresses the admins and one of them will invite you to the program you can then become a commisioned creator and get paid for rooms they commision from you.
Ok it's clear, challenge accepted 🙂
Don't know where else to post.
You might want to add an info that says "Disable URL encoding, at least for "." "
Took me a while to get familiar with burp and why it was failing.
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I think it would be nice to change the welcome room to explain better to click the deploy button and the difference of the attack machine and the machine in the room, lots of times people don't understand that you need to click the deploy button and come here to ask for help, for an example some days ago I asked my gf to do the welcome room in tryhackme and it wasn't obvious for her that she needed to click the deploy button and she didn't understood why she needed to put the url in the attack box instead of the browser in my computer (she is not dumb, she's very smart and understand English perfectly, better than me and also she is used to computers)
@lunar plank As support staff I can confirm that this is one of the larger problems we have. Many people don't know that openvpn is different from ovpn, and that you need the vpn on your kali virtual machine ^^
i think around 95% of all room related questions are related to these problems
btw the openvpn file ends with .ovpn
if you google that you get a private vpn provider
i have had people email me saying they have signed up to this rather expensive VPN and can't access THM
£11 / month vpn lol
tell u what @somber fractal
i can just email Cmn directly LMAOO
that bish cant ignore company emails
Wow I've never heard of that company but that's a problem
100% their name is to capitalise off of the fact the files end with .ovpn
Okay emailed Cmn
I know so many people who just refer to it as ovpn I had no clue that existed
actually
let me ask to change the welcome room
so it never says "ovpn" on its own (if it does)
I’m not sure if this is the right place for this, but I think the creator of Docker Rodeo used “seldom” when they meant “often” in task 13. On one hand it’s nit picky and you can figure it out from context clues, but on the other it reverses the meaning of the sentence and makes it not make sense.
@lunar plank

@tropic cave is the creator 🙂
@merry ice you're welcome!
Very well written @tropic cave 👍
Its just an idea
!docs free-path
Why is a moderator getting involvef
Dont backhand me 😭
I have made a severe and continous lapse in my judgement and i do not expect to be forgiven
He linked you some resources to get started with hacking
check out the links he sent
well, i think at least 90% percent of the rooms in the site are about hacking soo 🤷♀️
Ohhh cool i didnt know
And jabba called me a wasteman in general is that what youre moderators are up to smh
-mute @tardy frigate 20m being a troll
🔇 Muted ahash10#0367 for 20 minutes
@native raptor
No, he responded appropriately to trollish behaviour. If you have a complaint about one of my moderators you can take it up with me. Likewise if you feel you've been treated unfairly.
If, however, you feel like the reason for the response was appropriate, then I would suggest dropping it
Given James seems to have muted you again, I've given you temporary access to #talk-with-us-no-threading, should you wish to make such a complaint
Just reading through the CySA+ and came across a subject of your interest. Containers Forensics. Not sure if this is on your roadmap already @lunar plank
I have a room idea, whom can i reach to?
it'll definitely be interesting for all them to try it out.
whom can i reach to? 🤔 😄
i want to pitch the idea to the room reviewer and get his/her feedback to make it more special for THM community ❤️ please!
@last mirage Go for it
hello @native raptor thank you for your response. Can I dm you?
Mhm
Hey all! I am working on a new room about Social Engineering. It will mostly be an introductory Walkthrough. If you want to see something particular, feel free to share your ideas!
@civic surge THM doesn’t have a good history with social engineering due to its background do you have anything specific you’re going to focus on? just want to make sure you don’t waste your time and can get the room accepted
@karmic raven I was thinking of mentioning the SE Pyramid, ways to detect SE attempts and red flags, and maybe a short introduction of the SEToolkit
@karmic raven plus some information about phishing, vishing etc
everything sounds super cool. Be careful of SEToolkit as a room on that has already been rejected but it was also a fairly bad room in general. I would reach out to @lunar plank and run everything by him to make sure it will get past the testing queue
@karmic raven sure thing! It will take quite some time because I want to create a good room and because my hands are full right now (thanks Uni and Advent of Cyber 2 for that 😋 ).
hi
You can filter by difficulty on the hacktivites page
got it Thanks you 
Any plans/stances on implementing hardware rooms (arduino/pis/embedded devices)? I understand this could be tricky to implement but I would love to see what creators could come up with.
So Pi wise, there's AWS arm instances
Couple of us have been in conversation with the admins to see if we could do some cool stuff with them
ooo interesting, looking forward to that. Microcenter near me had an awesome sale and I have so much arduino/pi stuff im sitting on
Idk who to @ for this so @everyone
@placid flicker just finished your regex room, i know you have been having lots of complications because of it, but i wanted to say I really liked the room and i learned a lot with it, thanks for the room
I too enjoyed the regex room, took me a while to get the last few questions in the right format but all the info needed to finish was in the room.
cPanel 2FA bypass room 👀
https://thehackernews.com/2020/11/2-factor-authentication-bypass-flaw.html
Room Idea: Alert bells every time we complete a room and submit a correct flag! like a soothing tech sound played out when you submit a correct flag!
That's not an idea for a new room. Try the feedback form on the site
I’ve recently joined THM and love the learn-and-do approach.
My one suggestion would be for THM to hire a editor — the room content is excellent but there are many grammatical or other issues that could easily be resolved if they were professionally proof read.
A lot of the content is user generated.
Rooms are checked for spelling and grammar issues by the room testing team.
If you see an error, please report it
Yes I understand — I just sent feedback suggesting they hire an editor to maintain a single tone across all their rooms, and to maintain a consistent written style.
It's not all their content
I know, but I’m guessing there’s a room approval process. And that could be part of it.
As a minimum, they could do this for their learning pathways.
We all have our own styles and since 95% of the content is community created and owned by the community that won’t happen
Yes, but that’s the issue I think. I think it would be helpful to have a consistent tone across all rooms and learning pathways.
@rugged zinc I understand the concern about errors but why do you feel the need for a "single tone and consistent written style"?
I think for promoted pathways, those could be the ones to start with. Other rooms could be left as is.
It seems more professional that’s all. Some content is almost written as it were spoken. I appreciate English isn’t the primarily language for all content creators.
I personally think that also makes thm unique as you get multiple perspectives and styles
And some people appreciate that casual, straightforward style.
Indeed. But it would be nice for whatever approach there is to be consistent.
Trying to explain Kerberos protocols or other advanced techniques in a monotone professional tone is worse
Anyway, it’s just a suggestion.
Re-writing content that the admins commissioned to make it less approachable just sounds dry and pointless
@rugged zinc there’s a #feedback-and-ideas channel if you want to submit it but the admins will probably have the same outlook
It doesn’t need to become SANS quality, but I think the friendly tone can be retained.
This channel is for ideas on topics for rooms, or exploits etc
Ideas for rooms for creators to make
Thanks, just spotted that room 🙈
Thanks @rugged zinc! Appreciate the feedback/suggestion. A majority of the pathways are currently being re-worked, so we'll take this on board for the design & review process of them. Otherwise, yes - please free to report issues with community rooms in #room-bugs (:
@exotic falcon Can you clarify what you mean?
This channel is for suggesting new tryhackme rooms. I'm still not sure what you're talking about, but it doesn't sound like that
What do all of you think of having an "Information Awareness Training"? Working many years in the military we and the whole DoD community still do the same annual IA training. THM could have a theme like "Stop the Stalker" or "Protecting those in Witness Protection". It could guide users in making a smaller digital footprint and best practices to maintain digital privacy and what to do in the event you're breached. This idea is most similar to the "ohSINT Room".
I’ve been thinking about an opsec room it’s just a weird room to make
with all the rick rolls on THM, it might be good
They did such a great job with with the "Advent Of Cyber" that I think it would be a lot of fun and evolve as technology and trends changes
Could create a fake Twitter account with a scattering of personal information — “it’s my 30th birthday today”, “here’s my run route” etc etc
I developed something similar for an internal training programme
Maybe combine that with tools such as tweets_analyzer, and set up a fake login page to password spray with terms from the users Twitter timeline
opsec is so much more than that and I don’t really have time for it with everything else I’m doing
What about a room more based on Social engineering and stuff. Thm Lacks SE Rooms 
That sounds difficult ... like email/payload generation?
new pcap challenges would be awsome
We're very restrictive on SE rooms, whilst they have legitimate uses in infosec, the same tools/techniques can be very easily misused (more so then other topics in infosec)
That isn't a blanket ban although, if someone's interested, get in toouch and I'll work with you to see how it can be kept above board for our room dev guidelines (:
I'm currently doing the OWASP room which is very nice so far. I might have a suggestion for some of the multiple choice questions, wouldn't it be better to create a radio button to select the answer and then submit it, instead of having to type the answer which is given away by the message format already? Maybe there's a good reason behind it, but it feels kinda odd
@forest robin yes.
Trust me, we have asked for more granular answer control. It's been promised. We will get it eventually.
Yeah But thinking and answering would be better ig . Insted of just randomly selecting an option . Uhh idk.. 🗝️
Ofcourse. With a radiobutton you're not able to already see the answer. Without even wanting it, i already know what the answer will be, because the question is right above the message format, you cant avoid it so the thinking part already down the drain
@native raptor Do you know how the current match system works? Or what language the pattern match is coded in?
I have some pretty good ideas on how to do a matching system that would allow for no answer mask
but still allow "close enough"
Not a clue, tbh. We just assume it's regex given that's what the admins call it 🤷♂️
It will be coded in JS though. The whole site is MEAN
Without angular, iirc
MEN 😋
a room where you will need to exploit misconfigurations in an amazon bucket
That's covered in Advent of Cyber 1 @queen finch
oh didnt know
I have a lot of plans and a long list of planned rooms. An AWS / Azure room is on it
good to know
@karmic raven pls let me help i have azure / aws certs in 15 days 🥺
bee I gotta get past this crap storm of a load I already have going on
-warn @karmic raven swearing
⚠ Warned Cryillic#6015
just adds to my highscore
Hey How's idea of making a Walkthrough room teaching Morse Code (.-.-..)
Iknow How to write morse
Might be an interesting way to approach intro-to-crypto.
Yeah okay
I also dont really see it used enough to invest time into making a room about it?
maybe a section in a crypto or encryption etc etc room
Morse Code is most prevalent in Aviation and Aeronautical fields since radio navigational aids such as VOR's and NDB's still identify in Morse Code. The US Navy and Coast Guard still use signal lamps to communicate via Morse Code.
Copy/pasting isn't really making your case tho
Ik okay agreed 👊🏻😂
how would you rather me make my case james would you like me to past 10 academic articles of why its outdated?
Oh I wasn't commenting on you
Just link the source if you're gonna copy it word for word
that source says the same thing I am. its widely recognized but not used. but still this brings us to the same point of its not enough to make a room on but could be considered for a section of a room
theres not much to learn about morse is there, its quite simple, i'm sure at least one of the CTF rooms has it in anyway
tbh i wish we had KaTeX or MathJax on site
muiri
I want to go back
please
please
its so bad
they had good intentions
@native raptor I have like tons of work to do in this damn new editor pleeeeeease help me
Same
You know the best thing?
It's getting rolled back
Meaning we need to go unfix everything we fixed 😆
Markdown editor ftw
But

Im just trying not to touch anything I dont have to
^^
the second you even open a task it just breaks
@native raptor you have any clue how to change image size in this editor?
Yeah, it's an absolute 🤬
See the pin in #creators-lounge
I figured that out the day before AoC started, when my Day 1 borked
You can get extensions to make it dark mode
Native dark mode would be cool
Just a little switch somewhere with a moon icon to get a dark version
Hey guys, i need some help on my beginner room OWASP juice room task 5. If anyone could help me to understand and get flag, it would be a great help
questio 2
question 2
k
fyi, this room is a good idea, but a terrible implementation. I just finished it, and particularly the second task is really silly on what answers are acceptable and what answers are not googledorking
A room where you have to analyze source code to find a vulnerability.
do you have any ideas for the room creator to improve the room?
do you guys have a way to do multiple choice or something more clear about what words you're looking for?
because e.g. index is no more valid than scrape given the wording of the question 1 on task 2
multiple choice isn't an option atm, but you could suggest it here https://tryhackme.com/feedback
the best a creator can do with that, is to place options in the "hint" option
k, I'll put this there
Hi, I would like to see an additional room or resource where fellow TryHackMe user could leave exports for other as a training or challenges. For example for Wireshark, Anyone could upload somewhere pcap's plus some goal to achieve like [AoC2 Day 7] with some hints or not which would determine how challenging it is. Every done case should improve understand of a tool itself and make it more comfortable to use. In addition maybe those pcap's could have a like system to determine how many times it was done and how hard it was to based on that create the some sort of hierarchy for how hard it is ?
Not sure if there are other tools that could be used similar way but would love to have possibility to train more on tools.
Merry X-mess 🦈

You can create private rooms and give links to people, which I believe is what you're suggesting?
this would limit visibility and possibility of uploading by other users ?
Well not limiting visibility is just a regular room, no?
How other users could upload files to that room or can rooms be extended by them or by author any time ?
So you mean you just want an aggregate room of resources where everyone could upload whatever they want?
Honestly the file sharing that you're describing there sounds dangerous
yes and no, may not everything but only pcaps for Wireshark for example
james stole my thunder 
Really those are best off in their own room teaching specific things?
I am newbie I probably can't think much of an examples for pcaps I would like to have another 50+ examples to work with to learn the tool and search techniques in a chaos of all packets 🙂
wireshark have lots of stuff on their website
with different things happening in different files
they don’t teach you what’s happening, but good to just browse through and learn by exploring

@past heart I would say go do Symfonos6, but Zay just pulled it
I might do one soon
ye i had so many walkthrough ones planned, wireshark being one but i'm just too busy :(
Custom exploitation is currently my strong point for dev. Wouldn't be hard to implement it as part of the challenge, given I already build the apps from scratch
Oh, actually, I know exactly how to do that 😁
Another Hard level one incoming
Nope. Another one 😁
Once AoC dies down I've got some good forensics side projects outside of picking up that involve pcaps, tshark, netflow AND that Network fundamentals series is high up on my todo after AoC too (:
i think for a networking on, it'd be good to have a high level on how a frame/packet reaches a web server, then go into detail on every protocol along the way
like how it gets to the switch, how the switch decides to go to router or not, how the router figures out how to get to the next one etc
Yesssss (: I've manage to virtualise OSPF, RIP, BGP, DHCP, DNS and general web servers etc on THM
But time 
yee that's good, i played around a bit with quagga recently to virtualise some bgp stuff
even though I am doing like stupid hours for thm stuff atm 
I still ain't got enough to pursue that in
Quagga yessss ((:
if somebody could make some sort of challenge based on covid vaccine distribution, i think that'd be pretty cool. i think the primary focus could be storing all the different locations/transports in an sql database and you'd have to navigate around said database
That’s a negative we’ve been specifically told to stay away from any mention of it
ah
What about a room on common ways to bypass anti-viruses?
That's come up a few times here
It’s annoying to do a room on it because they change all the time and it’s a somewhat advanced topic I might end up making a room about it at some point
lol
Please don’t joke about that especially something so serious
It would be awesome to have a room covering wfuzz more extensively, as it is a great tool that can be used for a variety of different purposes.
Spoilers there is one in the works (:
Not solely on wfuzz but there's a chunk dedicated to it
That’s awesome I’m looking forward to that, thank you!
Not a room idea itself, but rather an addition to every room which is: additional tab with contact form to a room creator/room mods where could send typos/ bugs etc. ?!
@dreamy iron #room-bugs
But that existed, and it was abused
Because people don't know the difference between user error and a room being broken
uhh ohh oh gotcha , that was probably before I joined. thanks
Yeah, as someone with a bunch of challenge rooms up, I'm 100% rejecting that one I'm afraid @dreamy iron. You would not believe what people put as "errors". Some of it is genuine confusion, some of it is sheer stupidity.
That said, there are people who also abuse the writeup feature the same way 🤷♂️
Just means they get a nice "Submission rejected" email
Totally understand that @native raptor , as suggested by @somber crow I am leaving comments on #room-bugs , cheers
Hehe, thanks -- that helps us a tonne being able to fix them
I'm absolutely new to the room creation/idea. I was curious if anyone folks more in the know think there would be any interest in a room/walk through to use DoD level tools to secure your system? Nothing too complex, just outline the tools, where to get them from, how to use them...and then deploy a vanilla system and apply a couple "fixes" as flags.
Most people tend to focus on offensive/red team, not sure if there would be enough interest to create a room like that...thoughts?
There's the Hardening basics set of rooms
Oh I wasn't aware, maybe it's already covered. Is it using a STIG to harden a server?
eh, subscriber only room...probably why I wasn't aware.
This room would be specific to using STIGs, and the STIG tools to harden a server:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Technical_Implementation_Guide
A Security Technical Implementation Guide (STIG) is a cybersecurity methodology for standardizing security protocols within networks, servers, computers, and logical designs to enhance overall security. These guides, when implemented, enhance security for software, hardware, physical and logical architectures to further reduce vulnerabilities.
E...
I'm assuming that's a no, no interest James?
Huh?
I don't decide
You can make content if you want, I'm just letting you know what already exists
I realize that, I was trying to gauge interest. I don't have access to the two rooms I found on hardening, not sure what tools/methodology is used to "harden" them.
I appreciate the information on the two rooms
The creator of the room mentions that he picked interesting topics from this book: https://learning.oreilly.com/library/view/mastering-linux-security/9781788620307/
Thank you for the reference. I don't see any mention of STIG or STIG tools in that book. I may work on one for the sake of learning how to do it. I've done local talks on how to secure your systems like the DoD and they seem to go well, just wasn't sure if that would translate to a room walkthrough well or not.
Go ahead and do it!~~ a room from a fed would be cool, teach us all your secret techniques!~~
Well that's the interesting part, they are all out there to reference and use 👍 It's just not the easiest thing to piece together and understand without any background. I don't know why the private sector companies don't adopt the framework and use it, it's free and publicly available 🤔
The Fifth Amendment is a wonderful group of words included for a reason I imagine.
I think having a room about hacking into AWS or talking more about cloud would be cool
Awesome!
It’s in my list of rooms you have to understand that setting up an environment for that is very hard so it may very well be a you have to setup and hack your own environment
Could you also do a room about setting up rooms? Or does that exist already
Please
Like a step by step on how to set up your own environment, a hacking room for others to hack
There's a couple talks on it
From Dark. Some slides from cmn somewhere
Then the docs on help.tryhackme.com
I have a room idea I kind of just typed up some brief notes and I was wondering if it would be worth trying to implement it myself for some experience as I am studying for certs and looking for work. I feel a blog post or creation of a room may help me on my journey. I have not done too many rooms yet but the ones I have completed I really enjoyed. I was hoping to make a beginners style room essentially about reading threat intel, analyzing a malware sample to find IoCs, or like a purple team exercise; But I don't want to re-invent a wheel that may already exist.... Any suggestions or someone I could pitch my idea too who has a little more experience on the platform?
I know there is a blue team path in the works
I kind of wanted to try and put something together quick based on current events if possible
Were already working hard to get you all the blue team content out as fast as possible speaking of I have to talk to Sam, if you want to make a room no ones stopping you
I am not rushing the team, Just hoping to possibly contribute to community
I uploaded my idea into THM... Can anyone explain the process of a room being approved for public?
!docs room-review
Really great thanks for the reference! I hope that mine passes but I could always use a bit of suggestions for editing so that it can be better.... Fingers crossed!
@earnest oak If you want immediate feedback you can send me the link to the room. I’ve made a considerable amount of rooms so I know what gets rejected and accepted
how do u create rooms?... Just asking
!docs room-notes
@sonic pendant
Thanks my dear beloved Lead MOD..
Hello !
I have a small suggestion for the room Boiler CTF (/boilerctf2)
In Task 2, one of the questions ask you for the flag inside "user.txt" but this is actually not the file's name! Since inside the (correct) file we have kind of a "well done" message (and it's not the first message of the kind in the room), I thought this wasn't the correct flag and kept searching for user.txt. Actually, I only found this file didn't exist after I had rooted it and was able to search every dir
Anyway, my suggestion is to either change the name of the file in the question or in the machine 🙂
Just a thought, it’ll be nice to be able to have Immunity Debugger on the Windows Base room’s machine by default, just saves installing it. Not really a big deal though just a thought.
Last I checked @lunar plank was already working on making a new Windows Base machine
Oh that’s awesome, thank you for letting me know!
room to exploiting apple servers, yes, stonks
Yes, a new Windows base box is coming after AoC and Immunity Debugger is included on my build of it @spiral gull thanks @karmic raven (:
It's been discussed, AWS have only just added macos and it's prohibitively expensive
Create a Zodiac sign room!
@tacit anvil wat
not sure.....like something zodiac related idk
I think they’re talking more about astrological signs
Which I think the Year of series falls into that category
so that would be like the throwback room? with extra upprice maybe?
kk got u
me and spooks have discussed approaching the admins about it but it’s really expensive so dunno. We might discuss it none the less it’s a cool idea
iirc the Mac OS EC2 instances are heavily restricted in what you're allowed to do. The way the Mac OS instances on other platforms work means you can only use them to test / run software, I doubt Apple would be happy with you pentesting them 😛 Butttt this is other platforms, I'm not 100% sure on EC2
They dont have to know
I know this could have been mentioned but will blue team rooms be available in the near future?
Well blue team learning path?
Would you happen to know when it will be available?
No
more OSINT please
slowly and carefully, the content is being rolled out as we make it. Its only two of us working on it with heavenraiza being the main senior dev
Okay, thanks. Can't wait to see the finished project. Tired of theory and labs from other websites with do not hit the mark. Ready for something realistic and help with skills needed for blue team type jobs. Ready to graduate from the help desk!
ooohhh, good stuff 😄
Hey I feel the Brainpan room should be modified to actually require a flag, its a good box since it involves something a lot of people may not know or tried before and should actually require a flag or the content of a file on the back rather than empty questions that you can just hit "complete" on
I feel like the only person you're conning there is yourself
Brainpan is derived from an old vulnhub box i believe
and it's also a fantastic challenge, as ninja said, if you are cheat it it's just at your own expense to spoil that one.
Than why isnt that the same for every challenge, just configure it under the "honor system"?
on it 👀
As crunch said it’s an old vulnhub box thm is simply hosting it
Does that mean we can upload vulnhub machine to thm?
Generally, no. @slate plank
If you're the creator then sure
If you have explicit permission of the creator then eh, perhaps
Even if it's for private room? Like for personal use
I wouldn't risk it.
Tbf, for private rooms I'm pretty sure we don't care, as long as it isn't stolen
i'll just readd, if you haven't done brainpan, you should and you shouldn't cheat yourself
it really is a fantastic box
Oh okay, Whether I can only upload a machine from local storage or is it possible for cloud to just download it from vulnhub website?
No, it needs to be uploaded as an OVA
And it needs to fit in with the AWS conversion requirements
@clear loom I have done brainpan im just so surprised that there is no actual questions for it
Again, only person you're cheating is yourself
You don't get points for it
If you just mark it as done, you end up without the knowledge.
👍
Hi, can we have a room (or a series) that talks about the fundamentals of cloud computing, then we could have vendor-specific rooms for AWS, Azure, etc. And then we could have another room that mainly talks about cloud security?
Fundamentals of Cloud Computing --> Vendor-specific rooms --> cloud security (also maybe for vendor-specific as well)
Hey, folks, for those who have completed/attempted/looked at the "Authenticate" room could you please fill out this brief survey please? Trying to gather feedback for it! Thanks ❤️ https://forms.gle/r4phiSRk8pq92sq46
Share your thoughts about THM's Authenticate room (https://tryhackme.com/room/authenticate)
❤️
Any room idea for practice burpsuite
There are already rooms on tryhackme that teach burpsuite
that would be correct
This is a wicked idea -- we have something in the works regarding this FYI that should be out relatively quickly #641573666353709085 message
@quasi thorn #infosec-general
Thanks to those who have filled it out already (forever taking responses!) this is very helpful for me.
owasp mutillidae rooom will be nice
Nice idea (: just as a playground / having it hosted on THM? If the licensing checks out okay, that will easily be doable
waiting for it 😊
hey guys i have an idea for a room
a room made as an introduction for shodan
as not many people know how to use it or even some people dont know about the website an introduction or a breif room discussing about it would be nice
there was a shodan room a while ago but iirc it got pulled because of the changing nature of some of the questions. Not sure if bee will be remaking it
@light lynx any insight on that? 👀
will the room be going up again anytime soon ? cause im really interested on learning how to use shodan properly and i was searching for a room but couldn’t seem to find any
It's coming back yes @golden mountain
welp here's your answer 😄
yes its being iimproved 🙂
but probably in january
as you know
holidays 😛
room code is shodan dont complain about the answers being wrong 😄
oh yeah i found it i just joined it
once you have finished improving can you post in the announcements about it? so people can join it
yes it's going back in the queue
if i make it in january, probably look at end of feb release unless Dark does a quiet release 😄
If it's not called likee, Shodan Regenerated or some movie reference I'll be disappointed
Shodan: Legacy
Can I PM please?
yeah sure
tyty
Dr Shelldon Cooper presents: Fun with Flags.
Whoever wants to grab that theme idea go for it :)
For Bufferoverflow Prep:
Add Tib3rus' video from youtube on Task 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X2JGF_9JGM
This video is a recording of a livestream that has been lightly edited to cut out a connection issue I had with the TryHackMe VPN (that was 100% my fault, it is resolved now).
I walkthrough how to exploit simple stack based buffer overflows using my TryHackMe room: https://tryhackme.com/room/bufferoverflowprep
5:15 - Opening Immunity Debugger ...
@cyan scroll (Apologies for the ping) -- if you want, we could ask Skidy to add that in at the top of the room as the official video? e.g. https://tryhackme.com/room/introtoresearch
Stuck on PrivEsc 😦
Don't spoil me 
Could I DM a Room Tester about a room I am working on?
@arctic pollen I can see if I can help, I'm a room tester and room developer
Thanks!
@lunar plank I am working on a Rubber Ducky room. Conceptually, is that something that is within the scope of THM, or do you guys prefer to stay on the software-only side of things? The room wouldn't require any hardware on the user's end.
We have a room on physical pen testing I don’t see why a ducky room wouldn’t pass
Sounds good! I'll keep working then and just stop if I get a "Nope" 🙂
This sounds wicked to me!
Can’t wait to see it
is There any room testers that i can dm about a room i am working on?
Aye, go for it @dense briar
You need to have a reputation for creating rooms iirc
@lunar plank Would you be able to supply the requirements for becoming a room tester?
I want to create a series of rooms around Mitre ATT&CK.
Never created a room before, so it’ll be a challenge for me 🙂
I don’t wanna burst your bubble but someone has already created a room https://tryhackme.com/room/mitre
good room
I agree. Heavenraiza has done a great job
that room is amazing and I dont see how you could make multiple rooms surronding ATT&CK considering its really just a knowledge base that should really just be used a search index for TTPs
Yess please remind me in the morning @icy trellis if I forget @past wren ❤️
I got a bit carried away with .NET app making and realised it's 3AM so
I'll write it up l8r sk8r
Any date set for holo release ?
Soon™
Like really soon
Unless it breaks and kills us all
Which might happen but who knows
Like stay up for it soon. Don’t sleep because 24 hours is possible soon ?
Nah not that soon
lol
But soon™
Don't cry cry, if you fix it none will be hurt
Holo !!
Is there any plan for a malware development room?
Ive thought about it and talked about it but Im hestitant to make it for obvious reasons
I am part of a pentest team that at times need to perform red teaming and when we need to craft/simulate a malware we have tough times
Dont know if thats something that should be encouraged.. if you know basic security and basic programming you can make basic malware
if you know advanced.. you get the point
malware has its place outside of nefarious uses
Well yes that is also true, just don't know if adds much adding guides how to essentially automate everything that is teached on the platform? 🙂
Seems like a bad idea to me, analyzing existing malware is a different topic though
hi all
it wouldnt really be automating anything though if I were to teach malware development it would be about anti virus evasion and how to create a basic dropper that doesnt automate or change anything that is already taught
Didn't think about that apsect of it, that's quite interesting actually.
Lesson 1: Just make the malware 200mb, most avs wont bother 😄
most is signature based
I can make an exe one line and have it be detected
last time I checked gentilkiwi was a signature
dont have anything that is close to a signature and you have yourself a malware that bypasses AV
but you can also go far far deeper than that
yea most seem to be, many avs seem to have issues with large files, recently learned that in some podcast where they talked about the sunburst malware, interesting topic i'd like to learn more in for sure, if there only were 24 more hours in a day 🙂
Is there one around sql exploits already?
i uploaded my room and its been converting for like easily 3 hours now
shall i cancel it and try again?
ok its just the previous one i uploaded did it alot quicker so was just wondering
does refreshing the page do anything to the progress of the converting?
cos ive done that a few times
It does nothing
bruh its been going for 6 hours
@remote socket please could you maybe take a look on the backend?
if he needs the box name that it belongs to i can give him all the information if its just my machine lol
Bruh
The admins are busy people, you gotta be patient.
OK il delete it and try again something probs went wrong
yeah it seems to be converting properly now
any room testers online who i can dm about an issue with the box itself
-arole @dense briar creators-lounge
➕ Gave the role Creators-Lounge to fieldraccoon#8013
@dense briar #creators-lounge
Whats the name of the OVA you uploaded? (Also @ me as I might not see when you reply)
@remote socket They reuploaded and it worked
Ah okay, thanks for lmk
which box?
My own
@dense briar can i run it ?
@dense briar ive had a dozen so for some reason i can type better than usual
Any dates set for holo?
No.
I saw a projected date somewhere ( before 25th ). That obviously didn’t happen so I assume it’s coming any day now
When it's ready and tested
Lol, It has been more than a week I guess, still they have not tested my machine yet.
Previous two machines did not take that much time.
The room testing team are volunteers. You need to be patient.
In December, 25 days of Advent of Cyber takes priority when it comes to releases.
@mental lotus Which room?
@native raptor samsara
Hi
Room idea : Room about HTTP Headers...
https://tryhackme.com/room/webfundamentals here's enough info
Hi Guys I hope you are doing well, please would it be possible to have add feature that will help us to pin some of the rooms that we want to go over later on. lets say i want to do the linuxctf but I don't have time now and I don't want to forget so pinning the room would be a great feature
Put that over in the site feedback form @tranquil oar 🙂
@tranquil oar - What I do in that situation is Join the room. Then you can go to 'My rooms' and click 'filter completed' - That will hide all the ones you've done, and you have a nice list of one to do 🙂
Thanks @glad minnow & @native raptor much appreciated! I will do
does any one knows that the flag is encrypt in which format
for example: i solve the smag grotto machine
and i got both the flag
i wonder that in which format this flag encrypted in or it just a random value ?
Flags are usually hashes of random data
I am currently making a Maltego room and Maltego: CaseFile room
Just submitted my first room 🚪 for review
!
Woopwooop

I’d love a todo list feature too. As a quick win, would love it if “Filter Completed” returned all incomplete rooms first.
It should?
Not for me — incomplete rooms are present across various pages, rather than all being on the first page.
its buggy, if you select 'filter completed' then click through to a room and back again it shows all room again even though 'filter completed' is ticked. you have to cycle the tick box to just show the uncompleted, minor problem but annoying
hiya, i submitted a room about a month ago and got some feedback, then adjusted and resubmitted but haven't heard anything back since, would it be possible to get an update? 🙂
@west sleet how long ago did you resubmit
I'm not seeing any rooms attached to your THM account in the queue @west sleet
What's the room name?
ah sorry yeah it's under the "uswcss" account 🙂
Ah yes ty @native raptor Found your email @west sleet and will reply from there when I get a chance today (: sorry for the delay. Been working through the absolute backlog of things since/over AoC2 (:
no worries at all! thanks for the update :)
Keen to work with bringing you guys (collectively) into the community here hence why I thought best to be done via email rather than the feedback/comment system
Thanks again Muirl.
yeah definitely, appreciate the consideration!
hi
Sometimes the first question of room is to deploy the machine and then ask a bunch of question that often don't need deploying the machine to know like in nmap it asks about the switches and to read the man page. I think it's better to ask to deploy machine when next step involves use of machine because I feel like I am wasting server resources by doing this (I have seen this in the beginner rooms not sure about others)

Some services take a while to start and we can’t gage your level of experience. If you deploy the room at the start, everything will have started up by the time that you get to the question.
Are there any rooms with IKE vpn included? Couldnt find any
Yooooo I am going to build another room soon. You want it insanely hard or prefer a medium one? @golden mountain seems to be looking for a challenge 🤓
😄
I am also open for ideas 💡 just let me know 👍
if u do other more hard than enterprize
@dire sluice
It would be great to have a reverse engineering room for analysing an executable using Radare2 which is made using Golang since the assembly code is a lot different than executables compiled using C lang.
Hey i haven't found any rooms on hashcat, should I try harder?
Or maybe, just maybe, an idea for a room :)
Yea but those are CTFs
Also I think there's been some attempts to make one
Well I actually meant a room focused on hashcat like for eg. Nmap room, or wires hark room etc.
But I guess crypto 101 will do.
Yeah there's been a few attempts to make one
Many fell short because they were just copy/paste from the help menu or website.
Still, it would be nice to have it on THM
@west sleet can I shoot you a DM when you get the chance please -- if that's okay? (:
yeah that’s fine 🙂
Are there any rooms to help with making a room?🤓
There are some blogs and talks
check this out https://bobloblaw321.wixsite.com/website/post/the-making-of-a-vulnerable-machine-blob-blog
This post is going to walk through my general process for how I created the TryHackMe machine Blob Blog. I won't include the exact things I included as rabbit holes/intended paths as it would be too big of a spoiler. It will, however, contain the process I went through to set up each part of the box. It will also co
Thanks!
can that be pinned ^^ ? lots of people don't know where to start and i think that's as really good blog to look at 🥺
Not really the place for it -- would be better over in creator's lounge
i didnt know where to start aswell tbf
i was like how dio i submit it with everything work it, then i found out you just set everything up have it running and then export
there's lots of people not in creators lounge that wanna make boxes doe
Again, I was looking for something more hashcat focused. Like you have rooms dedicated to: nmap, burpsuite, wireshark etc.
The Daily Bugle I used hashcat instead of John the Ripper
But yeah, not focused on hashing
There's a hash cracking challenge room that's decent. First half you can find on the normal sites but the last you actually have to crack
MITM attack room (email suggestion, don't roast me)
I'm thinking about doing one like that some day
not sure how to get it working though
Multiple docker containers pinging eachother info / flags? (I'm no expert)
@cedar echo heres a open-source docker framework designed by the navy for teaching infosec, the arp-spoof lab worked really well
Yeah it'll be Docker but it's the mitm bit that'll be tricky
Any rooms on privilege escalation?
For windows:
https://tryhackme.com/room/windows10privesc
For linux:
https://tryhackme.com/room/linuxprivesc
i read about a cache leak? leaking the answers for one of the rooms in room-bugs channel, i would be interested in learning how this happens and whether or not you can trigger one as an attacker or at least how to detect one if it is only caused by a misconfiguration
Ty
uhm
a webpage was cached
thats what is meant by it
and you can trigger one
by saving a webpage
using https://archive.org
can anybody help me with uploading my own room? keep getting problem converting VM and i meet at the prerequisites i think
@rustic zephyr whats your room about? Just curious
What OS?
im on ubuntu 18.04.5 does it have to be exacty 18.04?
this could of been a big mistake haha
Desktop or server?
its just a beginner boot2root with LFI for foothold
desktop
rip
WOUNDED
server will be much smaller as a bonus
i thought they was the same but bundled with different packages? hoping i can just enable CLI only and install server tools and it work
yeah as in i built my room on desktop version so i am hoping i can install the server tools and enable CLI only
hoping anyway haha
@rustic zephyr It's related to kernel versions
Don't waste your time. Start from a fresh install. Purge snapd and lxd if you're not using them.
yeah im gunna start a fresh! thanks for the help guys
is there any race condition rooms ? otherwise it would be very nice to have one explaining what it is and how to exploit this vulnerability !
there are some that use dirtycow
Check out Race Track Bank
Hey guys, hope it's fine to place that here.
On your series https://tryhackme.com/hacktivities?tab=series Pentesting Tools you have listed for Nessus this room: https://tryhackme.com/room/rpnessus but there is also https://tryhackme.com/room/rpnessusredux witch is alost the same and I believe newer. Just letting you know.
How about a room on Report Writing 
Please sir,can you create Evilginx 2 courses to your website.
How to use DevTools for Cybersecurity. I have seen people using DevTools as DevTools by itself is a great tool, but did not find a suitable resource for it online.
Can you make a room to show how to make a room?
check this article out by blob: https://bobloblaw321.wixsite.com/website/post/the-making-of-a-vulnerable-machine-blob-blog
https://blog.tryhackme.com/making-the-mountain/ That's Dark's overview of it
A guide to creating challenging, educational, and enjoyable vulnerable virtual
machines.
Picture this, you've just completed another machine on TryHackMe
[https://tryhackme.com/], Vulnhub [https://www.vulnhub.com/], or HackTheBox
[https://www.hackthebox.eu/] and you're left thinking to yourself "well I'd
quite like to build one of those for mys...
There's a matching talk he gave to SecArmy somewhere as well
Thank you Valued Creator and Muiri for the great resources i will read both!
like to thank tryhackme staff and content creators for the content. i have got over some sticky patches for me through your content. many thanks
What about a room on ethics?
Anyone have any thoughts on that, or is anyone working on one?
That could be part of a room on Planning and Scoping Penetration Testing Engagements, particularly, related to contracts (Statement of Objectives, Statement of Work, Scope and Limitations, NDAs and CAs, etc..) between the client and the pentester.
Perhaps, yes. I imagine it'll be very business-oriented, which is probably the easiest way to turn philosophy into something productive.
The CompTIA™️ PenTest+ exam has a whole domain on it.
I'm having trouble imagining what other format ethics applied to security it would be compatible with, except for a summary of some sort (of different stances).
Aha!
I'll take a look at their syllabus
Who's working on that Planning and Scoping Penetration Testing Engagements room?
Non existing, just a placeholder idea of something that could cover ethics/legal context.
It might be interesting to include some thoughts of prominent security people, Bruce Schneier for example has talked about the intersection of security & ethics a great deal. Some FOSS arguments might also be relevant.
Roger roger
How might one make a 'lecture' room engaging, interactive and fun?
Scenarios, maybe a VM to poke at?
Honestly a room on compliance would be more oriented towards that but no one wants to do a room on compliance lmao
Maybe a room on note taking?
A pathway about OSCP?
If you are looking for OSCP prep rooms:(By Mayor)
we have the offensive security path
we cant have an OSCP path because off-sec would come after our heads
More rooms with tamper scripts
including the Header parameter, cookie parameter,
do these before the exam?
or before the course?
before the course @tacit anvil
sort of gives you a sense on if you’re ready or not, and allows you to use the lab time during the course period
i see, and what about before the exam? @sudden garnet
oof did you fail the first time?
@tacit anvil i'll get the 90 day lab instead
i dont think you'll need 90 days of lab
kinda overkill
most people get 30
90 days is a long time lol
Thanks
ghost pinged
Muri coming to save the day
Don't underestimate how long you'll need -- especially when you haven't already done it for yourself.
Or not
I know Tib3rius would recommend 90 days, for example 🤷♂️
What am I meant to be saving you from, Ms Damsel-in-distress?
i think if i can do all those boxes with relative ease, i wouldn't need an extra month on labs
-undelete -a
a month sounds like a lot to be honest
i feel like 90 days is huge overkill
i can purchase more labs if needed right?
Remember there's an 850 page PDF to work through as well.
Those boxes are also additional practice -- not an indicator of how good you are
Yes, for 300 quid
Correct
wait so
the PDF
wait how does the course work
you're confusing me
For reference, I took 60 days and didn't manage to finish all of the lab boxes (had 6 missing, although four of those were an AD network). 90 days would give you a lot more time to digest what you're learning.
yeah it looks cheaper in the plan
maybe better to not take the risk
how many lab boxes are there?
oh and sorry for peppering you with questions haha
The "course" such as it is, is them giving you access to the PWK learning material. A huge long PDF, with videos following along. You work through that at your own pace, at the same time as, or before, working on the labs
If you're doing the exercises then those will also take extra time
70 lab boxes now, from memory. 66 when I did it
ahhh
so the pdf is the course
and there's also videos
i was thinking that the 850 page pdf was only the beginning
I spent the first 35-40 days working on the coursework, before shifting over to the labs
if you do 20 pages a day, 3 hours a day, that's almost 10 minutes per page
it'll take a while lol
It's hard going. Some of it is easy stuff. Some of it not so much
so the pdf is the material, the pdf is pwk?
and videos exist for those who need them
Again, there are also exercises and practicals every few pages. Each exercise has a few questions attached
The practicals obviously take time
i see
cant i get the pdf online, study it, and then pay for labs and the exam?
And no, the PDF and videos are equivalent -- just depends on how you want to learn
I mean, not if you want the cert. Offsec are very strict about people obtaining illegal copies of their material
Rightly so
what do you recommend? having the pdf as your main material and then switching over to videos when you're having a hard time with a subject?
They'll take away the qualification, then sue you into a deep dark pit if they find out you were using an illegally shared copy of the PWK
not worth it 
I didn't use the videos at all -- I learn better by reading then putting into practice
New name
There's a syllabus on that page
i hear pwk is focused a lot on BOF
how is the exam proctored?
One section out of 25
You've got a webcam on the entire time, and they watch your screens the entire time
Everything should be visible at all times
that's cancer
Don't do it then 🤷♂️
the webcam part
not the screen part
nah, it's worth oscp lol
yeah there are 25 sections
there are sub sections
and sub-subsections
And each of those little sections has exercises built into it
thats strange, isn't the exam an entire day?
so, someone is watching you the entire time?
Correct
that's creepy
Not really
That’s pretty standard for every exam
Can if you want. I wouldn't advise that
You'll be useless after being up for 16 odd hours
Less, if you're not used to functioning on very little sleep
i can go to 18 or 19 before i lose function
I'd just stay up for the whole 24
Mighst aswell
Get through as much as you can
Is the 24 hours for writing the report aswell?
#cyber-and-careers it moved there
i changed my room title from "Intro Exploit Development" to "Intro PoC Scripting" i thought it was more appropriate. and in case someone else wants that name
a room on pivoting?
There's a sub network and a free network coming soon dedicated to teaching this
And other challenges throughout the platform that require it. Internal has a docker pivot, for instance.
theres a difference between teaching it and having it within a box
Sure is.

XSS ≠ reverse shell
any machine learning \ deep learning enthusiasts here ? I would like to create a machine learning room , has this been discussed before ?
- yes
- its been discussed yes
thanks bee i see your previous discussions, I am thinking of how would a challenge look like when the goal is to attack the ML / DL model. Eg trick it into misclassifying.
i have the perfect thing for u
Adversarial examples are inputs to machine learning models that an attacker has intentionally designed to cause the model to make a mistake; they're like optical illusions for machines. In this post we'll show how adversarial examples work across different mediums, and will discuss why securing systems against them can be
Musings of a Computer Scientist.
maybe you could make a room that teaches you about DL/ML in depth, and then provide a few practical examples on attacking a model
id love that as id like to learn more about DL/ML
also, im sure this has been discussed before but we NEED a room on staying safe while hacking
how to hack without a trace
and how to not get a sysadmin's attention, etc. etc.

