#Unknown military-type SUV spotted in Pécs, HU

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tepid rover
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Carries two ammo boxes, and has a dutch license plate.

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Unknown military-type SUV spotted in Pécs, HU

bronze anchor
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looks like a land rover

west wind
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To be quite honest this is way out of my area of expertise but it would perhaps appear to be either a land rover as silberloewe said or maybe a jeep based on the front body. Most likely used for the transportation of personnel, weapons, and other supplies. We already know about ammo boxes, which would reinforce the theory. As for the make and model which is really the important factor here, I'll look into it, though I do not expect many meaningful results.

reef thicket
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Dutch Marines use Land Rover Defender 110s, which appears a pretty good match.

west wind
# reef thicket Dutch Marines use Land Rover Defender 110s, which appears a pretty good match.

I took the liberty of finding a 3d model of said car and though it does appear slightly modified in the back, it is otherwise an almost exact match. I would second this opinion.
Edit: I did notice after the writing of this message that the car in the picture has steps up to the doors, and the Land Rover Defender 110 does not appear to (correct me if I'm wrong). This could still be a 110, but if it is it seens modified.

reef thicket
west wind
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That one would appear to be a better match.

reef thicket
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I suspect the step configuration is something you can specify when making an order.

west wind
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Ah that would make sense.

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I apologize. I don't have too much knowledge on vehicles.

reef thicket
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No worries! We all start somewhere, and this is as good a place as any.

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Besides, you took the time to look it up and have a conversation about it. It's entirely possible I could have been wrong, so good on you for taking the time to check instead of trusting blindly, and then having a polite conversation about it. PB_heart

west wind
tepid rover
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Thank you guys so much!

reef thicket
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This place is full of nerds, you essentially gave us a treat and then said thank you for eating it Elrisitas_rebotar

west wind
twin sonnet
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Land Rover Defender 130 Crew Cab.

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They appear old, but are "retro styled" vehicle. Which might throw some off to thinking it must be a 80s-90s vehicle. It has kept the same general design for quite a long time now, still produced up until recently.
Highly configurable, used by many militaries.

twin sonnet
# reef thicket Looks like this (a Defender 110 NAS) so it at least exists as an option. You can...

For reference, the 110 NAS, is the North American Specification, V8 engine specifically.
Hardtop 4 door, unlike the canvas pickup variant.

The model you show is a 110, but when using NAS that just = it's one made for North America rather than UK/Europe.
These also only made that variant in 93, around 500 made for US, 50 for Canada. They are quite rare..
The one I mention above, is more likely to be it.

reef thicket
# twin sonnet For reference, the 110 *NAS*, is the North American Specification, V8 engine spe...

Yes, I know NAS means the North American Specification, simply mentioned it to be more accurate what I was showing. However, if we assume the Dutch plate means the vehicles are in use by the Dutch military, then the only branch to use Land Rover Defenders is the Marines, who use specifically the Land Rover Defender 110XD WW. https://www.defensie.nl/onderwerpen/materieel/voertuigen/land-rover-defender-110xd-ww

fiery ledgeBOT
reef thicket
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(No other Land Rover vehicles are listed on the website, either.)

twin sonnet
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I didn't assume it was Dutch military. I listed the model

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Specifically they use the Wolf designation for theirs. Which are rarely 4 door canvas tops.

reef thicket
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I'm more referring to the fact that as originally posted, the vehicle had Dutch license plates.

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Ammo boxes + Dutch plates would logically lead one to conclude it is a Dutch military vehicle, and the only arm of the Dutch military to use the vehicle (which is a Land Rover Defender of some description, I think we can all agree on that relatively easily) is the Marines, who use the 110XD WW.

twin sonnet
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And the fact that the Dutch are not known to use a 4 door canvas top variant of the 110 as pictured?

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You know they can be privately owned?

reef thicket
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Carrying ammo boxes?

twin sonnet
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You haven't heard of military enthusiasts?

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Every WW2 willies jeep..

reef thicket
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You'd have a much easier time arguing with the OP about that, I would say. Regardless, if you have a source that definitively says the Dutch Marines don't use a canvas-top variant of the 110, I'd happily take it!

twin sonnet
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Do you have one that says they do by chance?

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I'm just trying to be accurate to what OP asked.

You offered a 110 North American variant as the answer. I offered... Like the actual model as the answer, where are we now?

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All I have to add for now ☺️

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Spot the difference!

reef thicket
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I offered the 110, with the NAS as a picture reference for the steps specifically (as they were what was being discussed at the time). You argued that was wrong and offered the 130, I provided supporting evidence that the Dutch do use the 110XD WW. It is definitely possible that the vehicle is a civilian one. However, as you say the Dutch Marines do not use the soft cover four door version - which I would agree is possible - I would expect that you provide any evidence relating to that claim, rather than insisting others either disprove it or accept it without proof.

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I think the question that would solve this is whether the vehicle is a military or a civilian one, personally, but I doubt we'll know. I'm happy to concede it can well be a civilian 110 or 130 instead.

twin sonnet
reef thicket
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Heh, you got me just as I was finishing out my reply. Doing some further looking, I'll agree with you in that it is almost certainly a civilian vehicle, either a 110 or 130. I'd even agree it's more likely to be a 130, because of the rear board as the pattern displayed seems to be more common on 130s.

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(The pattern of rear board that appears more common on 110s, for the record, while the one with horizontal indents seems much more rare on the 110 while common on 130)

twin sonnet
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I appreciate you taking the time to look further into it. The details for sure match up to be a 130. I would say privately owned visiting another country, if civil, it can be classed as a heavy-duty commercial utility vehicle, (often subject to "grijs kenteken" or tax breaks)
Popular choice there apparently.
Hope I could help. Cheers

west wind