yknow i was real sad hearing mega jynx was scrapped bc i thought wow! what a perfect way to bring back and update an antiquated design to be more relevant and do something cool with the original concept! and then
#Pokémon
pine arrow
Yeah the design is so....nothing
orchid trellis
im really hoping we find the model
because there may be a sliver of hope that the sketch that was found isnt the final design??? maybe
(coping)
pine arrow
The artwork is probably the 'final' design before they scrapped it
Could've been Jynx's redemption arc but seems like they didn't want that
grand iron
Not clicking any of these spoilers as I'm not interested in hearing the leaked stuff, but regarding a Mega Jynx? I'd personally prefer it outright evolved anyway.
pine arrow
Yeah, Jynx kinda got ripped off in Gen IV
I feel like it's as a result of the response to Jynx
Froslass lowkey just feels like a 'reattempt' at Jynx in a way
grand iron
Froslass lowkey just feels like a 'reattempt' at Jynx in a way
I get what you mean but personally don't see it much.
pine arrow
It's moreso due to the similar concepts (Female only Ice type yokai mon with purple skin and a dress like body) and the fact it's suspiciously in Gen IV instead of a Jynx evolution
vestal jay
pine arrow
Isn't Centro only reposting the stuff people have sent him tho?
vestal jay
I'm not sure
pine arrow
Also this happened like a week ago
He continued posting regardless because IIRC 'Peru'
vestal jay
Still insane that he's willing to send death threats like that
uncut tundra
What
pine arrow
I'm guessing someone at Nintendo threatened Centro is all
vestal jay
The second in command at TPC sent a suicide threat to Centro
The fact he said ninjas even
unique moth
centro is not to be trusted honestly
there's a good reason of why theres so much drama between pokemon leakers
cuz both centro and the riddler are kinda ass
chances are they were just "please stop posting this information or we'll take legal action", which in centro's language translates to "new clout opportunity"
pine arrow
I do know Centro has often posted fake leaks and believed them to be real, like the one fake leak that was just like a Gurren Lagann looking mech with Necrozma arms and he believed it was a real scrapped Gen V mon
Or the time he believed that one butt face Cat from like the Chilean comics or whatever was unironically a beta Purrloin
unique moth
its worth noting that centro himself is only a reposter, not a leaker
he's as gullible as anyone in the public
with enough effort (or sometimes no effort at all) you can get your half assed fake leak to be posted by him
pine arrow
Yep
pine arrow
Just found out that Sceptile and Cyclizar can't get Autotomize despite it making sense
pine arrow
"Oh cool, I wonder what it is!"
Watches video
Really gave me the impression that people voted mainly based on design and not on how much they actually like it
unique moth
Was it greninja
unique moth
Really gave me the impression that people voted mainly based on design and not o...
What else would they like in a Pokémon other than design? Most fans don't really care about competitive potential and moveset stuff so it all comes down to design or nostalgia
pine arrow
Was it greninja
Umbreon
wicked bloom
umbreon....?
i havent seen video yet
was the voting group like tainted or something
if youre going online and asking people, the results will be more skewed to certain level of fans?
compared to asking people on the street?
or worldwide stuff
like if u go in a smash bros subreddit and ask who is the best character.... compared to conducting a poll at a kids birthday party
pine arrow
As far as I'm aware the voting group was general Nintendo fans
pine arrow
umbreon....?
Infamously a deceptive Pokémon
Has a great design but it's stats and movepool are AWFUL, as in, barely useable in the normal game kinda bad. The thing is next to incapable of actually doing damage and it's best moves are 'Being invulnerable' and 'Toxic'
wicked bloom
ah ha! that's my point
a casual pokemon fan would never say anything like that! 
do this poll on with tiktok commentors. "bruh who actually uses non attack moves 💀"
they celebrate only attack moves
it's an epidemic over there
pine arrow
Umbreon's like best attack option that does direct damage is Bite IIRC
orchid trellis
assuming you discount foul play because its not... "direct" damage?
pine arrow
Does it actually even get that move?
orchid trellis
bc foul play is its best move
ya
foul play is great on bulky low attack pokemon because it relies on the target's attack stat
plus it gets stab on it
idk what other moves it gets but if you think it only gets bite you might be living in like gen 3
pine arrow
Oh it gets it by Tutor and....Level up in BDSP, weird
Off the top of my head the only like good moves it gets for actual damage (Outside of just relying on damage over time via Toxic) is like Dark Pulse and Signal Beam and that's literally it
The Eeveelutions tend to get shallow movepools for some reason (Just ask Flareon) and the only one that can actually run a full 'attacks only' moveset with no type overlap is Vaporeon IIRC
Maybe Espeon I think
pine arrow
The Eeveelutions tend to get shallow movepools for some reason (Just ask Flareon...
Checking just 'attacks only' with no type overlap:
Vaporeon: Surf/Ice Beam/Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
Jolteon: Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
Flareon: Flare Blitz/Superpower
Espeon: Psychic/Shadow Ball/Grass Knot/Dazzling Gleam/Signal Beam
Umbreon: Foul Play/Iron Tail
Leafeon: Leaf Blade/X-Scissor/Iron Tail/Knock Off
Glaceon: Ice Beam/Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
Sylveon: Moonblast/Psyshock/Shadow Ball
orchid trellis
whats your criteria for this list bc i see lots of omissions
umbreon gets psychic, alluring voice, weather ball, shadow ball
just off the top of my head
pine arrow
Going by their best attacking stat, hence why Vaporeon/Jolteon/Espeon/Glaceon/Sylveon only have special moves and Flareon/Umbreon/Lefean only have physical moves
wicked bloom
i like squirtle cuz he's cute
orchid trellis
umbreon's attack is 65 to special attack 60
if you go by that criteria im pretty certain it gets trailblaze and dig
kind fox
i like squirtle cuz he's cute
I like darkrai because he's dark and uhhh raw
pine arrow
if you go by that criteria im pretty certain it gets trailblaze and dig
Didn't look at anything past Gen VII because those moves basically don't exist to me unless I'm playing romhacks
I just default to looking at Gen VII learnsets like anytime I check mons
orchid trellis
yea i figured as much which is why i asked for clarification lol
tbh all moot bc umbreon is a support pokemon 
doesnt have a ton of versatility, regrettably, but it does well what it does
worth noting that toxic protect stall is less prominent across the board in gen 9 due to toxic being reigned in from most pokemon learnsets
so its not as egregious
pine arrow
It's a support mon but I don't think support mons should entirely have JUST status moves
One of the best aspects of Pokémon is the ability to customise mons in any way you like, even at the basic level, so in general I'm not a fan of abysmally shallow movepools on mons
Hell, it's the reason I hate the move Hidden Power so much
grand iron
worth noting that toxic protect stall is less prominent across the board in gen ...
The fact Umbreon kept it is both irritating and interesting to me.
uncut tundra
Infamously a deceptive Pokémon
Has a great design but it's stats and movepool a...
???
Who cares about that crap when voting for your favorite pokemon
My favorite is Lampent
Besides Umbreon is a decent mon I remember using it
pine arrow
Who cares about that crap when voting for your favorite pokemon
A lot of people do, depending on who you ask.
If you're asking general Nintendo fans they might not consider it, if you're asking Pokémon fans directly, then it's something a lot will consider
Yeah looking through the full list again kinda points that it probably was general Nintendo fans because Heatran is in 739th place, a Pokémon that's notoriously considered 'ugly' by people who are somewhat familiar with Pokémon but VERY popular in online battles
uncut tundra
A lot of people do, depending on who you ask.
If you're asking general Nintendo...
Vastly more people choose their pokémon based on design rather than competitive relevancy
I think you're overestimating the competitive bubble
Like, vastly
pine arrow
I'm not even considering just competitive in general
I wouldn't consider the '9 year old child running a team of 6 legendaries with nothing but STAB' as competitive
uncut tundra
I'm not even considering just competitive in general
Clearly you are since you care about Heatran's spot
No one cares about Heatran
pine arrow
I'm pointing out how the demographic doesn't seem to be Pokémon fans but Nintendo fans in general as there seems to be a lot of unexpected results, and a lot of mons common in memes tend to rank higher, whereas mons you typically tend to see Pokémon fans gravitate towards place lower
Greninja is in 39th place and Dragapult is in 83rd, despite them being VERY well known as fan favourites in the community so much so that official polls crowned them as the most popular
unique moth
I think even most Pokémon fans won't really be taking things like competitive potential or movesets and stats as factors to decide their favourite
The people who actually do online battles and showdown and all that stuff is a very VERY small fraction of the Pokémon fanbase
Interesting to see grenjnja so low considering he won the official Pokémon of the year event back in 2020
Umbreon was 5th there
pine arrow
YO!
Just found a shiny Dhelmise!
88 SOS encounters, 3 days, 23 Roto Boosts, 7 Revives and 96 Full Restores and I finally got it!
Anybody have any idea what I should shiny hunt next?
uncut tundra
Anybody have any idea what I should shiny hunt next?
litwick
pine arrow
Is that even in the Gen VII dex?
uncut tundra
i have no idea lol
pine arrow
I mean if I've just mentioned Dhelmise I feel like that's a good clue
grand iron
It's an Island Scan mon.
pine arrow
> Island Scan
Nah not touching that
grand iron
Go for Lanturn. I know it's line is in the game somewhere.
Or try your luck at Salazzle.
grand iron
Salazzle's in "Don't have"...
pine arrow
Salazzle is definitely one I'd need a tonne of planning to get
I'd need to get a Cute Charm mon set up for that
That's something I should put on my to do list, given one of my objectives right now is getting a Damp mon as well for the inevitable Goomy/Castform grind
Solely because one of the best mons to hunt for them via SOS is Graveler
And we all know what Graveler is like
pine arrow
LOL what do you mean in early betas of one of the games Dawn ||had green skin and horns||??????
unique moth
yea she was not the only one to have a weird face
everyone is legends arceus had placeholder models for their faces like that
pine arrow
Yeah so uh we're getting some Sun/Moon leaks now
pine arrow
I need to know if there's any more info on UBs
unique moth
apparently they were all meant to be color coded
aka each one a different color
tho in the final game the colors have kinda of an overlap in some
pine arrow
@ me if there's any cool info found out about them
orchid trellis
anyone playin pokemon tcg pocket
uncut tundra
look at what they took from us
Omg
unique moth
pine arrow
Oh no....oh no.........
vestal jay
Oh no....oh no.........
Whoever keeps writing these
Also how's she an Elite Four at 18?
vestal jay
Larry was probably babysitting her and the actual 4th member couldn't show up
She probably has all those pokemon because I'm guessing her parents are rich as fuck
pine arrow
How are Poppy and the protagonists only a year or two apart?
One of them is clearly like, 2 years old at max
pine arrow
> Pokémon creates a UB, names it after 'nihilism' and 'ego'
> Fanbase pronounces it 'knee high lego'
Why
vestal jay
I mean nihil is an uncommon word in the west
Not many people know the meaning or pronunciation
pine arrow
Watching TierZoo. Ignoring the fact that it says they have full HP in numbers despite having part of their HP missing, given they're flat level 50 you can estimate their HP base stat.
If they're fully invested with 252 HP EVs and have perfect 31 HP IVs, they have a HP base stat of 113. If neither of the Gorillas have any EVs in HP, and a 0 HP IVs, then they have a HP base stat of a whopping 160, putting them on par with Snorlax
pine arrow
Psychic types when STAB Super Effective Choice Band First Impression Slither Wing
vestal jay
Psychic types when STAB Super Effective Choice Band First Impression Slither Win...
Gotta love how the absolute strength of will that Psychic Types have is completely deconstructed by the biologically insectoid
orchid trellis
im cracked
vestal jay
im cracked
Smash 4 Render lookin Pikachu
pine arrow
It's kinda incredible how much overlap in the soundfonts that Pokémon Gen III, Mother 3 and Fire Emblem the Blazing Blade has, like a lot of instruments are shared between them
vestal jay
GBA was peak brass
This is better brass tho
https://youtu.be/Z9PsTb1ufSc?feature=shared
pine arrow
Lowkey this route is like, one of the most boring to me in terms of music
Best place to train on Audinos had this music
Should I do a tier list of route music so we can argue over it?
vestal jay
If you want
pine arrow
Partway through that now
Am I weird for thinking, in terms of how it's composed, Unova Route 4 sounds like a Gen I track, Unova Route 6 sounds like a Gen II track, and Unova Route 23 sounds like a Gen III track?
pine arrow
Am I weird for thinking, in terms of how it's composed, Unova Route 4 sounds lik...
New soundfont stuff idea for myself I guess
pine arrow
LOL
vestal jay
Idk why but Route 6 in that style sounds like an NES Punch Out track
pine arrow
Oh yeah I could definitely see that
unique moth
So the game freak leaker just randomly leaked several temtem beta builds out of nowhere
what the actual fuck
how the fuck did he get that
For those who may have forgotten, temtem was a very popular Pokémon-like game that was like "the Pokémon killer" when sword shield came out
It's more like Pokémon than palworld, but actually well received by Pokémon fans
It had a regular indie game life and everyone eventually forgot about it
pine arrow
I've still gotta try it out
unique moth
No one has any idea how the hell did this guy get those builds
vestal jay
So the game freak leaker just randomly leaked several temtem beta builds out of ...
W-why
Game Freak I get but why Temtem what'd they do
vestal jay
Why does Lance's Gen IV artwork look like he's about to
Could also be something else more in line with his... manga counterpart
pine arrow
Oh yeah the manga counterparts of like, most early gen characters are like the exact opposites of their canon versions
wicked bloom
pine arrow
Yeah pretty much
pine arrow
TIL there's a trainer in Ruby/Sapphire who reappears in the Sevii Islands in Fire Red/Leaf Green as a result of teleporting to the wrong spot
She tries to get her Abra to teleport her home and gets stranded in Sevii
orchid trellis
machoke should evolve into machamp from defeating X number of other fighting type pokemon or some Shit
pine arrow
I considered the idea of Machoke learning Superpower and using it against a Rock type to evolve
orchid trellis
i was thinking cause its biological emphasis is that it has mastered every form of martial arts
so fighting a bunch of other fighting types can sort of emulate that concept
or fighting X number of unique species of fighting type
rather than just an outright kill count
pine arrow
Electabuzz->Electivire could be something like 'Get hit with an Electric type attack while holding the Electrilizer' as a nod to Motor Drive absorbing Electric type moves
orchid trellis
thats a good one
pine arrow
Not an actual idea of sorts, but Haunter holding an Iron Ball and levelling up for Gengar would be funny as hell
And as a serious idea, Dusclops could evolve into Dusknoir by landing a set number of KO's while holding a Reaper Cloth to kinda emulate the whole grim reaper idea
sick oracle
Haunter Evolves into Gengar after defeating a Clefable. I know it's just based on a fan theory but it would be so cool
pine arrow
Would be a little awkward to implement given that in some games there's flat out no wild or even trainer owned Clefables
sick oracle
You'd just have to make sure they are from now on. It wouldn't be a retroactive change
pine arrow
IIRC, excluding event only Mew, Clefable and Golem are the only mons in Gen I that cannot be encountered in a battle in a singleplayer game
sick oracle
Oh Kadabra should Evolve into Alakazam after you use 10 Psychic Type moves while holding a twisted spoon
pine arrow
IIRC, excluding event only Mew, Clefable and Golem are the only mons in Gen I th...
I think there's another but I can't remember the third
sick oracle
Or you could make him use Kinesis specifically, you just need to make Kenisis into a good move. Or maybe the fact Kenisis is a bad move would be part of the challenge
sick oracle
IIRC, excluding event only Mew, Clefable and Golem are the only mons in Gen I th...
Huh
Neat
orchid trellis
Alakazam has an emphasis on its IQ increasing upon evolving according to the pokedex so maybe something revolving around a particular strategy or learnedness
calm mind perhaps?
pine arrow
IIRC, excluding event only Mew, Clefable and Golem are the only mons in Gen I th...
Aside from Golem, every trade evo is owned by an important trainer, and aside from Clefable, every stone evo is owned by an important trainer
I have an alternate idea for Alakazam but it only makes sense in Gen VI/VII
Long story short, Sabrina in Masters says that her and her Alakazam are perfectly in sync, and she also says in the main series games that she believes everyone has psychic powers but just haven't activated them yet, along with saying that she believes the power of friendship is also a kind of psychic power
Why I'm mentioning this is in Gen VI/VII, you can max affection with mons and the game states that you can 'feel how your Pokémon feels' and that you are 'both in perfect sync'
So what if you maxed a Kadabra's affection stat in Amie/Refresh and essentially 'telepathically linked' with it and that's what makes it evolve?
grand iron
If you picked Charmander, I don't think there is a Venusaur to encounter either in Red and Blue.
pine arrow
Blue Oak.
He's the reason why you see any of the final starter forms
If you pick Squirtle, you don't see Charizard. If you pick Bulbasaur, you don't see Blastoise
pine arrow
Why is so much legendary battle music in Legends Arceus so...bizarre?
wicked bloom
I'm playing Pokemon stadium
With my crush
Is psychic the move strong against haunter
grand iron
He's the reason why you see any of the final starter forms
You seriously think I forgot the rival? I feel insulted. Other NPC trainers do use Blastoise and Charizard.
pine arrow
Is psychic the move strong against haunter
Yeah, due to it's Poison type, although I'm unsure if Stadium patched the Psychic type weakness glitch
grand iron
Just double checked best I can and yup. Venusaur is the only starter no trainer besides the rival uses. Every other starter in every other evo stage has another NPC using it from what I see.
wicked bloom
Yeah, due to it's Poison type, although I'm unsure if Stadium patched the Psychi...
Does gen 1 have weird stuff with SPECIAL like attack / defense
pine arrow
Gen I has a lot of weird stuff, a lot of which was altered in the next games
wicked bloom
well help me out
pine arrow
LOL was asleep by then, but:
Extremely major changes between Gen I and Gen II:
- Special was split into Special Attack and Special Defense, meaning a lot of Pokémon had their stats altered, some got buffed and some got nerfed by this
- Psychic type's Ghost immunity glitch was fixed, making them weak to Ghost type
- Poison type and Bug type are no longer super effective against each other, and Ice is no longer neutral to Fire
- Steel and Dark type are introduced, to buff some weaker types like Bug and Fighting, and nerf Psychic type
- Eggs and breeding are now a thing so almost all 'one off' Pokémon can be infinitely created if you want multiple
- Friendship mechanics are added in, and affect certain evolutions, along with certain moves like Return and Frustration
- Shinies officially exist now
Other changes:
- Some moves like Karate Chop, Gust, Sand Attack and Bite have been changed from Normal, to Fighting, Flying, Ground and Dark respectively
- Several moves like Tri-Attack now gain unique properties that weren't in the previous gen
- Hyper Beam and Psywave actually work as intended
- Blizzard's accuracy and freeze change was nerfed for being too broken
- Magnemite and Magneton are part Steel type now
And yeah, whole new region, new moves and new Pokémon and the like, but they're new stuff and not so much changes
pine arrow
Watching a video on extinction events and it's finally hit me why they made the series first meteor based move a Dragon type
pine arrow
Can Bulbapedia not crap itself and die to 503 again for the third time this year?
vestal jay
Watching a video on extinction events and it's finally hit me why they made the ...
SHITTING HELL YOU'RE RIGHT DUDE
Is the number of people who know that even above 100 or so because I seriously doubt that's common knowledge
pine arrow
Oh wow, someone's remaking the B/W and B2/W2 music with the original, uncompressed samples
vestal jay
Oh wow, someone's remaking the B/W and B2/W2 music with the original, uncompress...
Show me pls
pine arrow
vestal jay
Nintendo should do this for the Gen 5 remakes
Remakes which I hope ILCA isn't allowed to touch. I don't trust then after what they did to Gen 4
pine arrow
I don't trust Game Freak either at this point
vestal jay
Game "We don't take criticism" Freak
I'm gonna be honest, I kinda wish Square was allowed to do the Gen 5 remakes because Unova deserves HD-2D
unique moth
true !
vestal jay
It's a great example of that style in its original form, if they let the masters of that style handle it it'd be golden
Also HD 2D was like... invented for the Switch
unique moth
I love the limited 3D in this game, it's so charming
vestal jay
I hope they remake both Unova games. I NEED an HD Marine Tube with a hi-def Marine Tube theme
grand iron
Pfft! I started a run of Violet where I'm breeding pokemon using Masuda Method to get shinies for my nuzlocke-style encounters.
And literally the first egg I hatched was a Shiny Fuecoco! Good omen?
pine arrow
Oh nice!
grand iron
Second egg before I make more progress in the game is going to be a batch of Hisuian forms I can evolve outside of Hisui.
Got my fingers crossed for Zorua in particular as I love Shiny Zorua.
pine arrow
Playing Infinite Fusion, on my last mon, barely at the end of Victory Road and I get jumped by a dude with basically Goku
pine arrow
I dunno, nobody has made it
Was hoping someone would've made a Hsien-ko mon with a fusion but Noivern+Gardevoir is the only Darkstalkers fusion in the game right now
grand iron
Update on that Masudalocke I started. Got shinies of Hisuian Sneasel, Grubbin and Stonjourner. Been trying to hatch a Grass shiny for quite a while now, this being the first one to truly take a long time to get so far.
No deathes yet, though the Titan Klawf did nearly take out Sneasel with a crit and it having used Block to force Sneasel to stay in and risk fainting.
vestal jay
Pokemon Battles just feel strange to me, especially the more intense ones. People will claim to be the strongest fighters in the world and then their whole thing is yelling at a creature from space to cause an extinction event
pine arrow
Arguably less weird than Stand battles
vestal jay
Stand battles to non-users
pine arrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8AdbUhR1RM
Oh wow, this is insanely high quality, like genuinely the most Gen III accurate remix I've heard of anything
grand iron
Noooo!!!!!
That Masuda Method breeding Nuzlocke I'm doing?
Most recent hatch was...Shiny Male Combee. :(
unique moth
boo womp
pine arrow
Most recent hatch was...Shiny Male Combee. :(
Ouch
uncut tundra
Why does Lance's Gen IV artwork look like he's about to
He looks like he's about to drop the sickest mixtape
vestal jay
So I'm curious, do non-Pokemon life forms actually exist in the Pokemon world? Pokemon seems to just be their word for non-human Animals, and even then Humans and Pokemon were once one given we have a common ancestor with Chimps. Pokemon obviously stands for Pocket Monster so maybe a Pokemon is defined by being catchable? And then there's the matter of Pokerus which can exist in Pokemon stored in balls but can you catch a Pokerus in a ball without the Pokemon?
And also Arceus is a Yog-Sothoth like being of no real shape, but they have a form that can be caught but it's just an avatar of theirs like Nyarlathotep's Haunter of the Dark
pine arrow
Zygarde's cells aren't considered Pokémon and can't be caught in Poké Balls
There's also the wisps in Legends Arceus
Also berry trees as well, are life forms
On the subject of Pokérus, probably not, given if Pokémon are in general analogous to Eukaryotes of IRL, then Pokérus, being a virus, wouldn't be considered Pokémon
vestal jay
Zygarde's cells aren't considered Pokémon and can't be caught in Poké Balls
That's true
unique moth
there's grass
vestal jay
Seems like cell count and size are what make the mon
That means no single called Pokemon I guess
unique moth
pretty sure plankton exists as well
vestal jay
Gotta remember that Plankton is a category of life form, not just certain ones
pine arrow
This thing IIRC is unicellular
vestal jay
This thing IIRC is unicellular
Can't be, has eyes
pine arrow
Just gonna bring up that this thing is unicellular. That's a cell right there
vestal jay
Tf is that?
pine arrow
Sailor's Eyeball
vestal jay
Is it bubble algae?
vestal jay
Ah
pine arrow
Right size to throw at people I guess
unique moth
very convenient
vestal jay
I think Solosis is referred to as a single cell pokemon because it's evolutionary cycle behaves like cell mitosis
pine arrow
I've always saw it's evo line like an egg->embryo->fetus type deal
vestal jay
Basically
pine arrow
I do think it's outer layer being immune to everything and the 'Bear' ears on Reuniclus is probably inspired by the Tardigrade tho
pine arrow
I know there's a page on Bulbapedia about Animals in the Pokémon World, but aside from weird anime moments and stuff from very early Gen I stuff, it's mostly just dialogue stuff like people referring to Noctowl as an 'Owl' instead of an 'Owl Pokémon'
Also TIL one of the proposed pitches for one of the earlier movies for Pokémon was, and I kid you not, a living T-Rex arriving in Kanto and going full Godzilla on the place
orchid trellis
tri attack should be a three hit move that deals fire electric & ice damage for each respective hit
still grant normal type stab but factor effectiveness of each type
grand iron
Leading off with Ice sounds best as no pokemon except Shedinja is immune to Ice. Given how multi-hit moves work, that would mean Tri Attack always lands at least one hit before being potentially cut off by something like a Ground type or Flash Fire.
orchid trellis
i dont see why it would be cut off completely and cancel the move for only one of the hits to be blocked by something like that
just deal damage for each respective hit, effects & abilities and all
grand iron
That's how it SHOULD work, I agree.
But trust me. Game Freak would just copy their current multihit code for it. Hence my statement for getting the most outta it. lol
unique moth
we're so back chat
uncut tundra
Are we
Champions is nice
ZA looks ehh
Well, leagues better than scarlet violet
But
kind fox
we're so back chat
I like how the mainline modern pokemon games are horrible but the spinoffs are some of the best pokemon games
Z-A looks very promising
vestal jay
ZA looks ehh
I think the new combat looks intriguing
It's a simpler take on Xenoblade combat. I think people will be invested
uncut tundra
I think the new combat looks intriguing
Any step they take to make pokemon battles more like how we imagined it as kids is good
Finally our pokemon can dodge attacks
Putting the four attacks on the face buttons is smart
vestal jay
I thought up that idea myself for a pokemon game me and a friend of mine wanna make
They didn't like it tho so it got shot down
Pokemon's been needing some real time elements for a while
wicked bloom
Why two gen 2 starters? Why not use an even mix?
kind fox
what if it's because you get to choose another starter like you can in XY
unique moth
Why two gen 2 starters? Why not use an even mix?
too predictable i guess
game freaks likes to be as unpredictable as fuck
grand iron
I'm not complaining, Johto power!
Chikorita also NEEDED to be one of them IMO. Meganium just...needs something at this point to help it out.
vestal jay
what if it's because you get to choose another starter like you can in XY
Hopefully. Maybe AZ gives ones to you and it's a starter Pokemon variant from the time of the War thats extinct these days
Hell maybe he found out a way to unfreeze the Pokemon that were turned into Statues by his cannon. He was a brilliant engineer in his day and he's living in a post-Flare high tech Kalos so he could definitely do it, maybe Fossil revitalization tech could assist in such a process given its already based on drawing life from stone
uncut tundra
Why two gen 2 starters? Why not use an even mix?
Wait yeah wth
unique moth
sick oracle
uncut tundra
If one of the games has all of the Pokémon in them, then
Champions likely will
If it's a battle simulator like showdown
pine arrow
If it's the battle game people have been asking for since the dex cut, they it may finally be time
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-origins-origins-pokemon-red-and-blue-pokemon-red-gif-24030239
pine arrow
Tera has always interested me as a concept because it's kinda Hidden Power if it was good and not convoluted
unique moth
they said not all will be at release tho
pine arrow
'At release' means there's a chance
unique moth
oh yea i fully expect them to slowly add more
like in pokemon go
im really glad they are finally splitting competitive and mainline apart
so mainline does not need to be limited by the core battling mechanics of 3000 years ago
grand iron
Champions also being on mobile honestly gives me worry. You know they're going to find a way to monetise it...
Curious how it'll handle held items, given you can't put those into Home but obviously they're there given Mega Evolution.
pine arrow
Champions also being on mobile honestly gives me worry. You know they're going t...
Yeah that's a fear
grand iron
And ignoring the fact it'll likely be "online only" in terms of functioning at all possibly, Champions might well end up my main method of battling with my own pokemon if they pull it off. I love the idea of mixing and matching Megas, Z-Moves and Tera!
...no, Dynamax can stay away from my battles. lol
pine arrow
If they made a battling game with an in built computer system and every mon, that would atleast be a small wooden bridge over the canyon gorge they started digging in 2018
grand iron
Eh, simply having a pure battle simulator wouldn't have appealed to me until about Gen 9, where there is plenty gimmicks to mix and match plus a nice way to shift over your own pokemon from plenty Switch games already.
Rentals or outright generating your own ones from scratch in seconds doesn't appeal to me.
In Violet, I've got LOADS of mons trained up already so am good to go with this. Again, assuming they pull it off right.
pine arrow
'Assuming they pull it off right' is the thing that scares me the most
grand iron
Is why I'm not hitting excitement for it yet.
pine arrow
I don't want them to drop a seemingly perfect game, transfer my mons up for the first time only for them to change something a few months in
grand iron
ZA's got my attention nicely, but also not as heavily as I'd have liked. Cannot lie...them only showing in the city was bleh to me.
vestal jay
If they're making it to be an official version of Showdown then I really hope they make it worth it. Since it's coming to mobile I know for damn sure you're gonna have to roll gacha to get the Pokemon to use in battle or grind to get em. Either way it's gonna be a rough trek to get to a point where it can stand in for Showdown
pine arrow
We don't need gacha in this
grand iron
I don't want Gacha and I REALLY hope they don't go that route for new players on Switch at all or not using paid Home.
But on the other hand, as a Switch player heavily already, I could see that having little impact on me oddly if I were allowed to use my own mons at my leisure.
Given the game is about battling, I fear the number of battles you can do is the target...
pine arrow
So a limited number of battles per day?
grand iron
Hoping not...
uncut tundra
Tera has always interested me as a concept because it's kinda Hidden Power if it...
Tera is hands down the best pokémon gimmick imo
But I hate how it looks
Mega Evo is a cool concept because it gives new dope forms to existing mons, remove that and it's just stat and ability change
Z-move was lazy imo
But Tera is unique and frankly just amazing gameplay wise
Exact opposite of mega evo cause it looks lame but is objectively a great idea
Oh and dynamax or whatever it's called is so forgettable i forgot it
gentle sandal
Have any of yall played mariomon?
Pokemon romhack by alpharad combining pokemon and mario
I played it and beat it in like 5 days
Even completed the pokedex
So its not too long
gentle sandal
Tera is hands down the best pokémon gimmick imo
Tera is really fun with how well you can use it
Others are just big moves or stat changes
Tera actually changes up how you play the game
I once designed a concept for a new pokemon gimmick and came up with fusion moves
Where once per battle you can select 2 moves and fuse them into a fusion move
Their were different moves for each fusion, all having the same power, but different names
But it would essentially give a move 2 types
Meaning you could theoretically do 8x super effective damage
With a double stab boost
uncut tundra
Tera is really fun with how well you can use it
Im not too familiar with it so everytime someone uses Tera on showdown I forget they changed type
gentle sandal
Meaning you could theoretically do 8x super effective damage
Say, for example, you use a water/grass type fusion move on a rock/ground type
The concept of fusion moves is one of my favorite ideas
I made them all about 100 base power so they arent to broken
Weaker than moves like hyper beam or outrage but stronger than your average mobe
And of course you'd have to have attacking moves with both of those types to do make the fusion move
Which would change up how some movesets are made
If yall could make a gimmick for a new game what would it be?