adding the retro tracks
#Mario Kart Klub
inland gyro
adding the DLC
adding wave 1-3
and here's every track in mk8dx
none of the tiers are ordered
inland gyro
it's bad objectively
like it was good in double dash because of all the zany items
but here ehhhhhhhhh
trail tartan
I find that logic flawed. To me, good means mostly above average, not mostly at the peak of the series. And having more than half above indifferent and none as an outright dislike qualifies for good.
inland gyro
I suppose that makes sense
karmic tangle
Is there a tier under Hate too?
somber finch
Should one hate any track? Why not just say you don't like the track? For example, I don't like Neo Bowser City. But I also, don't like Boo Lake at all in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, so that's not in hate tier, that's just in I'm not going to ever race on this track tier due to being a bad remake of an existing track. If it was the Super Circuit Boo Lake, then it would be acceptable.
And I'm just going to go out on a limb and say all the ghost themed tracks in Mario Kart are mid except for Luigi's Mansion, and I can't even say that with a straight face either.
daring moss
Boo lake hater mods crush his skull
somber finch
Everybody else did the same to Sunset Wilds, so no, don't crush my skull.
woeful stump
did mario kart 8 boo lake remove an integral feature of the original track? genuine question because i havent been following mario kart diligently but thats what i heard was wrong with sunset wilds
trail tartan
Sunset also just...feels meh as a remake IMO compared to what they did with other GBA tracks IMO. I don't hate it, but it's not exactly a highlight in the DLC tracks either.
woeful stump
just wanna know for skull crushing purposes
mint mural
Boo Lake is one of the only BCP that keeps the original layout but also expands on it
Like I get if you don't like the course, but it's definitely an upgrade
mint mural
Everybody else did the same to Sunset Wilds, so no, don't crush my skull.
Yes but being fair, they did have a reason why. Boo Lake only had improvements imo
I'd like to know why you prefer the GBA verison
somber finch
Posting two videos side by side for comparison.
somber finch
Sunset also just...feels meh as a remake IMO compared to what they did with othe...
My same thoughts with Boo Lake.
somber finch
Here's Boo Lake Super Circuit.
https://youtu.be/PTJq1ROxY5I?si=FGTyQl-RS-RXZZSb
daring moss
Boo lake in 8DX is 100% an upgrade
Just better in every way
Maybe you could say og was a bit longer but that’s about it
somber finch
They aren't even the same track, here it is in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
https://youtu.be/SN58bXiiG-U?si=Fhk53SYDQbuQMaVP
somber finch
I'd like to know why you prefer the GBA verison
The same reason you prefer Sky Garden GBA.
woeful stump
judging by the minimap alone it looks pretty faithful
didnt sky garden change completely in layout? or it was butchered or something
like minimaps are completely incomparable
karmic tangle
Ribbon road MK8 is nothing like a ribbon road in GBA
It's just a good track
And sky garden is just a bad track
I said it
daring moss
True!
woeful stump
ribbon road super good !!
ribbon road one of my top faves
i like that they expanded the context of the course to transform it, feels like a redesign thats completely warranted
karmic tangle
If cloud top crews never existed, but that exact track came out as DLC in Mario Kart 8 deluxe and they named it sky garden... I would applaud them even though it's nothing like sky garden from the game boy advance
inland gyro
cloud top crews
somber finch
If cloud top crews never existed, but that exact track came out as DLC in Mario ...
Cloud Top Cruise is mid, I said it.
daring moss
True!
somber finch
Airship Fortress didn't make it in the game, lost opportunity.
daring moss
True!
karmic tangle
True
somber finch
Speech to text....
You use that.
inland gyro
Cloud Top Cruise is mid, I said it.
no it's good
mint mural
The same reason you prefer Sky Garden GBA.
What does that even mean, I told you that compared to the other BCP tracks like Sky Garden and Sunset Wilds, Boo Lake keeps the original layout while expanding on its original idea
Besides I love 8DX Sky Garden
mint mural
The same reason you prefer Sky Garden GBA.
Look at GBA Sky Garden here, both different designs. Look at GBA Boo lake here aswell, the same layout
A layout isn't what makes a remake of a track yes, but when you are keeping the original design and what's special about it, while also expanding on that original design, it's most of the time considered an upgrade.
It's perfectly fine if you like the og Boo Lake over the new one
woeful stump
mint mural
But I'm genuinely curious as to why does the GBA verison trump the new one
somber finch
Well, someone said I was a Boo Lake hater and I needed my skull smashed 
somber finch
I didn't avoid the question, I like the original Boo Lake because it stays above water, it's not submerged, which makes for a quicker race.
mint mural
There we go, a perfectly valid reason
Though, I don't think the underwater makes it slower
somber finch
Well, it definitely shouldn't be played on 200cc, that was awful.
mint mural
200cc Boo Lake is so much fun
karmic tangle
200cc is the best tho
somber finch
200cc is too fast to be fun.
orchid shadow
Am I really about to reinstall an old game to make one whole meme about Sky Garden?
karmic tangle
Yea
mint mural
yes
daring moss
yep
woeful stump
yee
daring moss
Rank my retro picks for mario kart 9 or whatever its called:
Shell: GCN Luigi Circuit, Wii U Toad Harbor, N64 Frappe Snowland, 3DS Shy Guy Bazzar.
Banana: WII Toad's Factory, 3DS Wuhu Loop, SNES Donut Plains 2, DS Delfino Square.
Boomerang: TOUR Piranha Plant Pipeline, Wii U Super Bell Subway, SNES Mario Circuit 4, GBA Sky Garden.
Leaf: N64 DK's Jungle Parkway, GBA Broken Pier, Wii U Electrodrome, DS Airship Fortress.
Lightning: TOUR Ninja Hideaway, GCN Wario Colosum, DS Bowser's Castle, GBA Rainbow Road.
mint mural
A very good selection of tracks
I think a few could be rearranged in the cups
Mainly Banana and Boomerang
daring moss
I was too lazy to swap them around
trail tartan
I love how, outside of 8 and Tour's tracks, the only one here that was in 8 Deluxe is Sky Garden. I can just see the middle finger at the layout change and feel the overwhelming "do it right this time" vibes. 
inland gyro
the fact there's 15 tracks from mario kart 7 in mk8dx is dope
(yeah some of those are just retro tracks that were already retro in mk7)
karmic tangle
Mario kart 9 shouldn't remove any tracks 
mint mural
true
i think that the next mario kart game should be called Mario Kart X: Crossroads, if they are going with the crossover gimmick
forest orbit
Mario kart 9 shouldn't remove any tracks <a:GigaChadGif:889516593468567593>
Disagree. Unless they make 96 new tracks, that'd wind up with most of the game's tracks being ones that existed in 8, making it not feel as different from 8 as it could. Very much a bad thing when 8 Deluxe is 6 years old, and the Wii U original 9.
trail tartan
Not that I'd ever use it, but anyone else think Wario's Gold Mine feels odd now in 8 Deluxe without it's half pipe?
forest orbit
Can't say I particularly notice its absence, but that could just be that it's been too long since I played the Wii original. Or that the ramp on the last corner means you hardly go near it. And also I'd likely barely use it either.
somber finch
Mario Kart has the same problem as Smash Brothers, where to now?
karmic tangle
Disagree. Unless they make 96 new tracks, that'd wind up with most of the game's...
8 deluxe doesn't feel very different from 8 but... 8 deluxe is better than 8. 
woeful stump
mario kart soft reboot
no retro courses, just 4-8 cups of all new tracks, but with completely different art styles between them, maybe based on different individual mario games, a la yoshis island
honestly i liked yoshis island so much i just want a whole game of courses with that level of inspiration
mario wonder course. paper mario course. mario party course. mario rpg course. mario 64 course. no uniform art style between them, just completely different
if they do a more limited roster as well they could change the characters to match the art style of each course
karmic tangle
Yes but bring back everything too ha ha!
orchid shadow
> Mario RPG course
||Smithy's dimension|| course, I'd love to have a ||Square endgame void dimension|| track
inland gyro
unpopular opinion they shouldn't make a mario kart 9
just end the series the world doesn't need to go past the mario kart 8 deluxe game with the mario kart 8 deluxe booster course pass DLC for the mario kart 8 deluxe game on the nintendo switch family of console system series
so what just port mario kart 8 to the next con-
no shh shh just go play something else let it rest
woeful stump
Here's a pro-tip!
When you have a bad opinion, you don't have to lead by saying unpopular opinion! You can just say it's bad and spare others the trouble of doing it for you! Hope this helps!
daring moss
They are gonna make a new Mario kart
Mario karts are usually one of the best selling games on their systems
eternal violet
Mario Kart isn't finished until we get both airship fortress and delfino square back in the same game
daring moss
True!
inland gyro
Here's a pro-tip!
When you have a bad opinion, you don't have to lead by saying ...
i was obviously joking why would i want less of a good thing
somber finch
We have a while before we see Mario Kart again.
karmic tangle
Mario kart needs better single player modes
Like crash racing, sonic all star transformed, and Diddy Kong racing
Bosses should come back
Sonic Allstars has those drifting mini games and stuff like that, and that's neeeeeat
shell copper
Aside from the Mission Mode of DS and the Competitions of Wii, has Mario Kart ever really pursued any singleplayer modes aside from Grand Prixes, VS Races and Time Trials? I'm pretty sure you couldn't even play Battle Mode singleplayer until DS.
somber finch
Nope, Mario Kart never changes its single player content, only its multiplayer content.
karmic tangle
We need more
mint mural
I know a lot of people dog on the new Sunset Wilds for not having the night transition, but can we appreciate just how pretty the course is? The lighting is beautiful and the textures are great
Sorry about the ass quality of these images
Honestly I'm kinda glad the sun doesn't set because then we get to take in the visuals of this course more
daring moss
They realized what textures were
Any track looks fantastic at sunset
Plus the mud is pretty
jovial orbit
If people are doing retro course hopes, I might have to do original course concept list
mint mural
Ooo yeah I want to do one like that as well
mint mural
Mushroom Cup:
Goomba Raceway
Pianta Village
Blizzard Peaks
Bob-Omb Badlands
Flower Cup:
Mario Circuit
Shy Guy's Seaside Resort
Mushroom Heights
Wario Land
Boomerang Cup:
Sunset Hills
Backlot Tour
Cuisine Cove
Pipe Rock Plateau
Star Cup:
Sandstone Sprint
Toxic Forest
Skyline Fairway
Overgrown Greenhouse
Cherry Cup:
Beat Block Orchestra
Double Cherry Blossom Grove
Unagi's Sunken Ship
Molten Mountain
Special Cup:
Koopa's Aqua Zoo
Waluigi Freeway
Bowser's Castle
Rainbow Road
lusty citrus
Do any of you know any good mario 8 kart character tier list makers
surreal bridge
Do any of you know any good mario 8 kart character tier list makers
https://tiermaker.com/create/mario-kart-8-deluxe-characters-including-dlc-15255011 if this is what you’re looking for, there’s all character icons even including the alt colors for Yoshi, Shy Guy, Birdo, Inklings and etc
trail tartan
My tier list is simple.
S Tier: Anti Guy (Black Shy Guy)
A Tier: Mii in Varia Suit
C Tier: Most of the characters
F Tier: Pink Gold Peach, Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina
daring moss
ok here we go
timid shadow
Wendy's the only one in D who's not basically a costume swap, what's up with that?
daring moss
I don't like her
timid shadow
Welp, fair enough
karmic tangle
turtle
orchid shadow
Morton has more hair than Wendy LOL
forest orbit
That ribbon is actually her hair. You'd be disturbed by how long it takes her to style it into perfect shape.
woeful stump
IF WOMAN WHY BALD????
karmic tangle
why doesnt dry bones have a beard tho
daring moss
He’s freaking dead he can’t grow hair
daring moss
mint mural
My dad just called Madrid Drive, Madrid Mile and I must say that is actually a great name for the track
woeful stump
oh.. that is good
inland gyro
since it rhymes
tf no it doesn't
sleek garnet
Madrid Mid
shell copper
Is it because the old one is the moon?
shell copper
No soul
I dunno, it has breakable cheese blocks, that has to give it at least a whisper of soul.
karmic tangle
Can't trust jolly fellow main (he likes Mario kart super circuit) 🔥 💥
New cheese land better! Ah ha
mint mural
Can't trust jolly fellow main (he likes Mario kart super circuit) 🔥 💥
grrrr mario kart super circuit good
inland gyro
this is the kind of stuff I hoped Mario Kart 8 would have in the game but.. it never happened
like this track just puts to shame the entirety of Mario Kart 8's antigravity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvG88RmQecU
like, just please look at this and tell me you wouldn't want that kind of anti gravity in MK8
just these cool ass tubes winding and twisting... why the fuck doesn't MK8 have that
even crash nitro kart had two tracks like that
why can't MK8 have that i'm still pissed the MK8 antigravity is so lame and sucks ass
daring moss
Anyways I have been converted I will defend Super Circuit to my grave
It’s a misunderstood game
People just don’t like it cuz it’s not like modern Mario kart
My current ranking probably goes:
DS, Wii, 8DX, Double Dash!!, Super Circuit, 7, Tour, 64, Super
mint mural
You could honestly flip DS with Wii and that seems like 75% of Mario Kart fans ranking of the games
mint mural
Anyways I have been converted I will defend Super Circuit to my grave
How did they convert you
daring moss
I played it again and realized its actually good
I just needed to adjust to the drifting
warped aspen
karmic tangle
Hack
inland gyro
HELL YEAH ||London Loop is near the bottom|| I feel vindicated
trail tartan
I'll watch it later...maybe...don't hold your breath...
jovial orbit
That mad about ||Sunset Wilds|| crowd then?
daring moss
It's time.
https://youtu.be/XuRCWrCrhuc?si=_m0iA6KTdMaPN17q
I was worried that Sky Garden would be the most hated track but thankfully it’s not because hating the new Sky Garden is my personality w
Now people cannot accuse me of copying a YouTuber 
jovial orbit
Finally someone who feels how I feel about Dolphin Shoals
mint mural
God I do NOT like Schaffrillas Productions
Like there’s this certain smug arrogance to him I just don’t like
Is that too harsh?
daring moss
Nah I can see it
Sometimes he is like “I’m right, you’re wrong”
It can be annoying
karmic tangle
Hack
inland gyro
Like there’s this certain smug arrogance to him I just don’t like
I get it
personally it doesn't affect me cause I can tell he knows his shit
at least in terms of movies
when he calls bone dry the worst base mk8 track i'm like "what? fuck you"
jovial orbit
With Bone Dry Dunes, I do gotta ask what people take issue with.
If they think the theming is boring, at least acknowledge it isn't another course using Egypt as a shorthand for conveying a desert. The pathing though... I won't argue against that.
I don't like it because it feels slippery to me, and it isn't an ice/snow/mud course where that's expected.
inland gyro
I like it because it's slippery
it feels like it's the only circuit designed with its slipperiness in mind
it's hard but fair and absolutely the best slippery racetrack in the whole franchise
like, try to take that one path that's not antigravity and see what I mean
it's pure bliss dodging the bone plants and that path isn't even slower than the bone wall path
bone wall path is boring
if you have a shroom it's even faster since there's a shortcut to take
also taking that one path is the only way to reach the wooden bridge path in the cave
daring moss
It's time.
https://youtu.be/XuRCWrCrhuc?si=_m0iA6KTdMaPN17q
He didn’t put Boo Lake in S tier
warped aspen
I am kinda shocked what his favorite GBA track is
inland gyro
yeah it's odd
mint mural
i dont want to watch his video, whats his favorite
im betting its like cheese land or mario circuit or something
mint mural
snow land based
snow land incredibly based
knowing him tho, he probably only put it in b tier
trail tartan
i dont want to watch his video, whats his favorite
Honestly, this is my stance. I don't mind the guy's videos normally, but over 2 hours is a fair bit too long for me to listen to track rankings.
warped aspen
knowing him tho, he probably only put it in b tier
I think he placed it in A- actually
But yeah, I don’t think it’s a bad take - not at all. I’m just shocked seeing how much he was kinda setting us to think tracks like Ribbon Road, Boo Lake, and Riverside Park to be higher than they ended up.
surreal bridge
For people who don’t want to watch the entirety of his video, here’s the whole course ranking in order (removing the - and + tiers to make it simpler):
orchid shadow
Physically made a pained noise after seeing Ninja Hideaway in SECOND
trail tartan
I approve of that first place pick.
orchid shadow
Ninja Hideaway for me feels like a 10/10 idea with a 3/10 execution
trail tartan
I personally disagree with ya on the execution part. Love Ninja Hideaway so much.
warped aspen
Honestly I want them to bring back Hideaway next game so that way all the jankiness with it can be smoothed out
trail tartan
Not in my top 5 most likely, but still...
warped aspen
Because while I absolutely love Ninja Hideaway, it’s jankiness is the thing that prevents me from calling it perfect
trail tartan
Ribbon Road is my personal "this feels really low" track there.
Dragon Driftway too. I love that course but often feel like the only one who does.
warped aspen
I can kinda understand where they’re coming from with Dragon since there isn’t really any variety with the track itself, you’re just on the same path the entire time.
It’s really the aesthetics and the use of anti-gravity that makes it a really cool track imo
I feel like it’s the only track you can visibly tell that you’re driving sideways and upside down
trail tartan
...well, 8's Mario Circuit and 64's Rainbow Road are above Dragon Driftway...so...yeah, if that was the reasoning then it feels weak.
On that note, 8's Mario Circuit is too high in my eyes. 
warped aspen
I think it might also be the fact that Dragon Driftway also doesn’t have any hazards on the road, in contrast to 8’s Mario Circuit having Goombas/Piranha Plants and N64 RR’s Chain Chomp
warped aspen
On that note, 8's Mario Circuit is too high in my eyes. <:Snicker_Dog:6719785435...
Yeah, I kinda agree. Like I don’t think it should necessarily be sent down to C tier, but definitely a B- at least imo
orchid shadow
Controversial, molten take right here
I actually like Sky Garden a lot
warped aspen
I think Schaf’s segment of Sky Garden perfectly describes my feelings about it: As a track on its own, it’s decent, there’s some elements of it that I genuinely enjoy. But it simply isn’t the GBA Sky Garden, and just a new sky themed track using the same name and (kinda) same theme.
orchid shadow
Gonna be honest I was incredibly 'meh' about the GBA one, I actually prefer the newer one a lot more
There's only one thing I really liked about the GBA one and that was the music, which, well, I also really like the Switch one
woeful stump
ive been playing mario kart DS, picked it up from a local game shop, and that sky garden layout is so much more fun to race on than 8
really had me like I Get It Now
mint mural
Controversial, molten take right here
I actually like Sky Garden a lot
Same
Also I had a strange dream about a new MK track
It was a Luigi Circuit track
Hills and background of Wii, with highly detailed graphics of 8
It looked AI generated
mint mural
I can't be the only one who thinks this, but I'll say it anyway. The big Piranha Plants in 8DX need to be buffed in the next game or something. Just specifically, I've never got eaten by one in any location they appear in in DS Peach Gardens and Tour Madrid Drive, especially the Museum section
Its weird since Tour Paris Promenade has the same sort of roundabout like Peach Gardens but it seems to have a larger chomping hitbox
You need to purposefully go out of your way to get eaten by these guys
trail tartan
I don't mind it being next to no threat in Madrid, personally, as it works as a nice visual to me on it's own merit.
On a related note though...if we can't have the ink ones, can we at least have these added to Bangkok?
mint mural
I think having no Piranhas during that section is fine
A little bit of downtime is fine imo
trail tartan
I disagree as I feel there is enough downtime as is on that track.
mint mural
I think having regular piranhas as opposed to ink piranhas would piss people off more tbh
trail tartan
So a little anarchy should be put back in.
mint mural
I guess so
Similar topic but not, I think the Tour courses are my favorite part of the BCP
I'm not sure why since they aren't overly coherent, but they entice me more than the other tracks in the pass
inland gyro
I think Schaf’s segment of Sky Garden perfectly describes my feelings about it: ...
fully agreed
like it's by far the worst gba remake imo but as an original course.. it's ok
it's inoffensive
not like sunset wilds which as a course is meh
warped aspen
Exactly
mint mural
What's one track you would change in MK? Could be any track, any game, and the changes could be big or small.
I only ask this question because if there's one thing I would change about Squeaky Clean Sprint, it's making the bath bombs, literal bombs. When interacted with, the player explodes. It felt like such an easy idea to implement, yet I'm shocked it wasn't brought up
orchid shadow
Stealing Moni's idea, but make everything explode when touched
More serious one, make the jump skip in DK Mountain more consistent
daring moss
make 8DX Sky Garden good
Maybe make the cars in coconut mall behave like they did in Wii but that’s an obvious one
Why does obvious have a b
orchid shadow
Blame Latin
Normally I'd say blame French because I'm pretty sure a good chunk of weirdness in the English language is from French
Not the case this time
shell copper
What's one track you would change in MK? Could be any track, any game, and the c...
I'd probably go with the 8 Deluxe version of Koopa Cape, scaling the entire track up a bit because I've felt it a bit underscaled for 8 Deluxe in the past, and making the underwater tube fully enclosed again with antigravity that allows you to go all the way around it - I've wanted to see antigravity like that for a while, but no Booster Course Pass really used antigravity for anything more dramatic than 45 degree inclines.
warped aspen
Yeah they really changed some of the tour tracks scaling wise when transferring some to 8 Deluxe. Some just feel a bit clunky and/or way to spacious now.
timid shadow
I wouldn't say it sucks but I just kinda go
"Oh. Ok"
Whenever it's picked
grave cargo
Sunshine Airport is really good
I love the voicelines
Wish they did that in super belly subway
Honestly sunshine is A teir travk
Would be S teir if they added 1 more thing
The gliding under the plane is cool but imagine how sick it would be to glide onto the plane abd drive across the top as its taking off then trick off back onto the landing strip
grave cargo
What's one track you would change in MK? Could be any track, any game, and the c...
Change mario circuit 3 in mk8dx to be like mario circuit in qorld
Mario circuit 3 was a waste of a slot
And everyone picks it online which I hate
Cuz its my least favorite track in the game
I wish they had picked at the very least mario circuit 2