#critical-role-spoilers

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shut raptor
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matt is the cabbage merchant of this show and I live for that

earnest iris
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Yeah, I knew he did a lot of the voices, but seeing his face animated on NPCs was great

shut raptor
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especially since vox machina is always messing with him (the peeing, the stealing, and the yeeting) is great

night spire
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so to be clear. I post something here with no description. It being about LoVM. It gets removed. MyDynogames does that with one sentence. "no Mercy." it remains?

worn violet
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They prefer that links get dropped in chat with context, yes.

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Because links get scary in Discord when they have no context or description attached to them.

runic forge
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I have watched the three available episodes of LoVM several times now :) this is my first experience with Vox Machina and they're a lot of fun

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My favourite character so far is Vax, which is typical for me because I seem attracted to characters who will break my heart (favourite in the Mighty Nein is Molly)

sonic lynx
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based episodesss ughhh

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I am happy

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now I get to actually get to see the story of campaign 1 without needing to watch the streams

sonic lynx
runic forge
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I'm planning on watching C1 eventually! I'm on episode 137 of C2 right now

sonic lynx
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😭 I really just cannot get into it

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I couldn't even watch C3 lol

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like I wanted to

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but it was just so long lol

lapis storm
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I feel like they are building such a huge relationship with Vax/ Vex as the de facto leaders, so they can rip our hearts out later

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I actually feel like C2 is so much stronger than C1, but C1 is like the Genesis of the whole thing

tribal pier
lapis storm
# tribal pier All three campaigns (based on the few episodes we've had of C3) have been distin...

Production values are definitely helping, but I really feel like Matt went more into the dynamics of the campaign, and the charachters I find are more, perhaps, dynamic as well. Trust me, I absolutely love C1, but for me C2 just felt like there was more at stake, and the fact that they weren't "heroes" like VM were. At a certain point, anytime VM went anywhere, they were recognised and had clout. MN are basically still these renegades, even though they're essentially Gods by the end of the campaign, because it was just a deepper tone. I suppose Stronger is a little bit of a strange word, but I just fell in love with the charachters in C2 more than I did with C1, but maybe thats the players getting more invested as well.

trim copper
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Part of the thing was that we all saw them go from lvl 2 strangers to level 16 found family, while machina starts streaming at lvl 7 while they’re a full team with insane magic items in the middle of an arc.

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Its easier to invest when you see it start from the beginning, rather than jump on the train while its already in motion

lapis storm
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Absolutely agreed

slender fossil
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Then again, I liked C1 because it felt more home gamey... Tried to dip into c2 but it was in wrap up mode by the time I finished C1.
ExU, didn't catch my interest from the first episode. C3 I've been enjoying a lot.

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I actually liked the early episodes of C1 better than the final episodes

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Lovm, watched the first episode and it was fun. Then rewatched with my wife (who normally teases me for putting cr on as background listening /playing dnd in general), and she enjoyed the first episode. So we'll probably watch the show together

knotty hill
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Nice

shut raptor
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I personally can't choose C1 or C2 over the others, because they're so vastly different. I find the bond of the characters better in C1, as well as a lot of the storytelling. C2 did these things great, but I also preferred the DMing of C2 over C1 (once again, matt was still incredible in C1) and I think the PCs of C2 were more layered than the C1 ones (save for percy, because obvious reasons). They're both great and I just can't really choose one over the other.

ruby quiver
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different style of overall campaign on many levels

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Heroes of the realm vs unsung heroes, time frame, etc

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VM took place over years, while MN was only months
that alone creates entirely different tones

worn violet
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Yeah, I personally love the idea that M9 went through everything they did and so few people in the world even knew they were endangered

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In the meantime, VM went out fighting a new god

lapis storm
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That's my favorite thing about the group as a whole. Unknown heroes who suffered a lot more loss and tragedy than VM overall in my opinion, and it was just a better story. I know MM spent much more time on it, and built from C1, but it's just better for me

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This helped by the fact that I feel it went from an amazing home game in 1, to more of a production in 2, but I felt it still kept the home game magic

runic forge
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I'm on episode 139 of Campaign 2, this is so stressful

trim copper
runic forge
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I'm excited to see the end, but I also don't want it to be over!

knotty hill
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Soon

lapis storm
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The end is phenomenal

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I won't lie

runic forge
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I just saw the Lucien mini o.o

lapis storm
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Yeaaah!!!

gloomy sluice
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So I'm caught up on LoVM and loving it! My partner, who can't stand live play shows and isn't too bothered by CR, also loves it and was desperate to watch episode 2

knotty hill
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Soon

worn violet
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I love Matt being the guard that constantly gets pushed around in LoVM

trim basin
lapis storm
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Also same creators

slender fossil
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Watch party on twitch starting

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Too bad they're not live on YT too :(

burnt badger
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ok they need to make Mica the new talks host or whatever they decide to call it now

violet falcon
slender fossil
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Can't seem to figure out how to get twitch to run background on my phone

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I just want to listen to the audio

violet falcon
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I don't have Amazon Prime either so it's funny just listening to them.

trim basin
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Ahhhh, Amazon owns Twitch so they can stream their show on the Amazon-owned streaming platform...

violet falcon
lapis storm
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I remember people used to hate Mica, good to see she's getting recognized for her talents

hazy kindle
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people used to hate Mica?

slender fossil
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Who's mica?

lapis storm
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Mica Burton. Long time guest of CR since C2, "fan favourite" as per brian, but generally well liked in many communities. In Rooster Teeth, where she used to work, she was really hated, probobly because the community there took a really harsh turn for the worst after a while, but she's really really cool, really nice, and has been really open and forthright about issues shes encountered, despite her apparent "privilege"

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Now in CR everyone basically loves her, because shes just out there having fun, and did really well

worn violet
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I’ve seen very little hate for Mica Burton, but honestly I don’t find it worth dwelling on.

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She’s a nice addition to the CR crew (assuming she’s going to be taking on a more frequent role), and if she isn’t, it’s at least nice to see the friendship she has with the CR crew.

gloomy sluice
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I don't particular enjoy her presentation style, but that's a me problem, not a Mica problem. I'm also not a fan of how she played her guest character, but again, me-not-her problem

runic forge
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I loved her as a player / presence at the table, but found her character really difficult to watch. I just don't like adult characters who act/speak like five year olds. I'd love to see her play a different character

knotty hill
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🤷 She's been my favorite guest thus far, and I want her back more.

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Reini was such a good element to throw at the Mighty Nein

tranquil sparrow
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Critical role is so good they should totally have the audience or fans interact with them by using polls in their next performance

worn violet
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That sounds like a good way to slow down a session

runic forge
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My favourite guest was Sumalee Montano, but I might also be slightly biased since I've met her. I really loved Nila!

knotty hill
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A wholesome bean

lapis storm
fading cosmos
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Soooo I wanna challenge Vox Machina. Who’s willing to join me

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Best guild in all the realms?

gloomy sluice
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@fading cosmos What do you mean?

fading cosmos
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I mean they’re one of the best guilds in DnD right?

hazy kindle
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They aren't really a guild tho unless there is sth in the campaign guide

lapis storm
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Yeah, not a guild technically. Just a party

worn violet
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Technically a party could try and take on VM with the new book

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But good luck with that. The whole group together brings the smackdown

worthy rain
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wait is call of the netherdeep gonna have Vox Machina statblocks?

worn violet
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Doubtful, on account of the fact that the story seems to not go to Tal’Dorei, but Tal’Dorei Reborn has them

knotty hill
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Everyone's level 5
Chetney: Extra attack, and hemocraft die grows to d6
Dorian: 3rd level spells, Font of inspiration and Bardic die grows to d8
Laudna: 3rd sorcerer level: Metamagic, 2nd level spells
FCG: 3rd level spells, Destroy undead (1/2)
Fearne: 3rd level spells
Imogen: 3rd level spells
Orym: Extra attack
Ashton: Extra attack, Fast movement

cursive karma
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Sam’s face in the news letter is amazing

lapis storm
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New ep is out tonight right?

tribal pier
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Woah, that was intense!

tribal pier
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Aaahahahahahahahah! SOOOO gooooood!

knotty hill
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YES, the GREATEST villain in all of Vox Machina history is here.

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Episode 6…. the door

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"It's not a door. It's a thing of evil."

sinful river
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live!

knotty hill
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Fancy dress time

worn violet
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They really upped the creep factor in Ep4 and I’m 100% here for it

ruby quiver
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We got the ||Bad News Kiki Percy scene and im ecstatic||

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And episode 5 starting off strong with Vaxs catchphrase... just not the way you might think

trim basin
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I feel like there should be a separate channel for LVM spoilers than Critical Role stuff >.> I clicked here for stuff related to tonight's episode and it's all LVM chat...

pseudo shale
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I agree

violet falcon
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MCDM's chat has threads.

knotty hill
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Fun way to dodge around skipping straight to the end of FCG's backstory. lol

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Oh neat. Imogen is very familiar with all of Laudna's fun. Like, very familiar.

knotty hill
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Party time.

runic forge
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Finally on episode 141 of Campaign 2, I started watching late May last year

buoyant galleon
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out of all the episodes for campaign 2 im dying over jester's sending messages from episode 131

knotty hill
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Someday Laudna will take her third Warlock level.... someday.

slender fossil
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No need to if doing a proper sorc lock build

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Can't remember if she's got enough wisdom, but mechanically a single level of cleric is better than a third level of warlock

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Order cleric dip for creepy voice of authority attacks

knotty hill
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Not exactly a faithful type of character. lol

runic forge
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Campaign 2 done

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I'm watching the Wrap Up now, because that was a lot

sonic lynx
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I'm glad I'm watching vox machina without having watched campaign 1

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because the show is so good and I don't know everything thats going to happe

knotty hill
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It's really well done for folks who aren't at all familiar.
😅 I've got some minor issues with certain adaptations, but they had to be made for the sake of time.

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The Suntree scene... oof

violet falcon
sonic lynx
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😭 uhh why would ask a question with spoiler blocks over it lmao

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I will not be clicking on those 😨

sonic lynx
knotty hill
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Vax and the Briarwoods was fun. I only wish that the scene could have better translated the tension of "Are they going to kill him, or kiss him?"

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10/10 on the door. That was a thing of evil.

violet falcon
knotty hill
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I think that it's been very good about adapting out 2 major arcs from the show. The feeling of "Did I miss an adventure or 2" isn't that strong.

sonic lynx
sonic lynx
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I think its like

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perfect

violet falcon
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I'm not gonna spoil it for you. There's a reason the Briarwoods arc is considered one of the best.

sonic lynx
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I thought it was a bit too goofy in ep one but I love it now

sonic lynx
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I am liking it so far

knotty hill
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It's only gonna get better.

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This is where the snowballing of C1 begins.

ruby quiver
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It's where the "stream only" stuff really starts

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The underdark stuff/NPCs reappear if relevant

worn violet
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I’m curious to see if/how Zahra and Kashaw show up

ruby quiver
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Although ofc the show is missing some stuff, although it has referenced things cleverly

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Keyleths hard-core streak, hotis, etc

violet falcon
worn violet
violet falcon
knotty hill
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Are Rakshasa something you cannot show on TLVM?

violet falcon
knotty hill
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Since, in the scene Hotis has standard hands

violet falcon
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Oh... Didn't notice that.

knotty hill
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I'm wondering if Tiger man is generic and OK. But flip those hands around and now there's an issue?

violet falcon
knotty hill
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Ok, was not aware of that.

worn violet
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Yeah, I think it was just something they decided not to invest the time in

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I think a lot of the “side quest” type stuff is gonna stay left out

lapis storm
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Also keep in mind, Im not sure how much DnD stuff they are allowed stick in without infringing harshly on the copyright. I'm sure it'll have the flavour of DnD as opposed to the actual hard setting of it

violet falcon
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It never used the official settings (until they became official)

runic forge
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I've noticed with Grog that they've just referred to him as having giant blood, I don't think they've mentioned the word Goliath?

violet falcon
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They didn't.

lapis storm
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Some things they just won't really step on in terms of actual naming conventions

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Pike is the "Healer"not the cleric

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Also using he name Everlight as opposed to Seran Rae

worn violet
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Yeah, goliath is a colloquialism in Exandria (at least based on their Tal’Dorei book), so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in an attempt to avoid trademarks.

lapis storm
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I'm sure we'll see loads of homebrewed stuff like that. I doubt we'll see Vecna named either.

ruby quiver
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It's why Wildemount called Sarenrae by a different name or Reborn called the gods by epithets (and the show also called them by them, like Everlight and Whispered One)

worn violet
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Yep. Avoiding trademarks. Sarenrae belonging to Pathfinder meant she needed a new name in D&D

lapis storm
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I like it though, really nice work on placing established lore into a world with a fresh feel, and also not getting it lost, and having it fairly easy to recognize for "outsiders"

slender fossil
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I'm actually surprised that the nicknames aren't trademarked

lapis storm
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Yeah I heard that one. Interesting enough

slender fossil
# knotty hill The Suntree scene... oof

When they brought the family over for dinner, I was just like oh no... I knew what was coming. But they definitely hit it on the nose a lot quicker compared to the campaign stream as I recall it... Like it took them a bit to clue in on what they were...though some of that may have been processing Matt's descriptions

worn violet
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I don’t recall Tiamat ever being referred to as “the Scaled Tyrant” before

slender fossil
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Did they reference tiamat? I missed that.
But I thought the whispered one goes back to 3.5 days at least

worn violet
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Not in the show, but the sourcebooks

knotty hill
slender fossil
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My wife is still super enjoying the show though.

Also a coworker who follows dimension20, is giving it a watch and him and his spouse are apparently into it so far too

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Definitely appeals to a broader audience compared to the stream itself

knotty hill
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😄 115 4-6 hour streams is a bit difficult to get into. lol

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A lot of the adaptations cut down the "playing dnd" parts.

slender fossil
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It definitely has the advantage similar to written works where you've got the story all worked out and it's more just editing and adapting for particular media, compared to a new IP

knotty hill
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Like the door. Hilarious to spend a half hour of them just trying to open a door.

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For what amounted to maybe 5-10 minutes of actual actions being taken

worn violet
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Making them easy to digest half hour episodes was a good call imo too

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Just enough time to tell the important details of the story, not so much time that they end up with a lot of filler

knotty hill
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I am saddened however that the -1 initiative will never be animated lol

ruby quiver
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Oh, Laudna seems to have said Delilah got into her head a year after she (Delilah) died

worn violet
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Bet she’s a Delilah clone gone faulty

knotty hill
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I missed that part

tribal pier
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Travis didn't. 🤣 I love his reactions to stuff.

slender fossil
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Love how Travis still hates shopping episodes. Icing on the cake with this one when he realizes 95% of it could have been avoided

lapis storm
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To be fair he doesn't mind episodes like this one, where there's roleplay and a little bit of content

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He hated ones with Orion where he'd spend half the game fannying around buying a load of silly shit

night spire
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When do you think they will do a Critical Role Video game?

lapis storm
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I dunno if they'd go that far

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It's be something very casual anyway

worn violet
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That’s a lot of work for them too, especially as they’re currently working on their TV series

lapis storm
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Absolutely. It would also be a different team likely, but they'd have to do VA for it too so that's more work for them outside of the series and the actual CR saga itself

worn violet
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Personally I’d prefer they didn’t do a video game personally. Just because I like the idea of them keeping to their TTRPG roots.

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But I also understand it’s not my decision to make, and respect whatever endeavors they decide to take on in the future.

dire inlet
slender fossil
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It'd either need to be a telltale games interactive novel style...

Or be a brand new campaign, with familiar settings /5e srd ruleset like Solasta set in tal'dorei

night spire
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I think a telltale game would be perfect for season 2

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campaign 2*

tribal pier
lapis storm
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Pillars of Eternity

slender fossil
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Yeah campaign 1 used a lot of effects /music from pillars iirc

dire inlet
lapis storm
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And most of/ all of the cast have cameos as well

knotty hill
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😄 Such a nice episode drop.

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Scanbo and Percy's descent.

knotty hill
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Nord...

violet falcon
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I wonder how much they rehearse this...

knotty hill
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One of these days, everyone's just gonna walk off set.

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The ad will be done, and everyone will be too defeated to play

slender fossil
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😂 Metapigeon noises

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... Owlbearman 😎

slender fossil
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Lord of the quad roads

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Wow... That's a callback to c1

simple marlin
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HOLY CRAP ITS THE WISH GUY

knotty hill
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My guy

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Travis is just beaming about this guy

worn violet
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I was just thinking of this dude like two days ago

knotty hill
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.....

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

slender fossil
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I'm amazed that they remembered him. I mean that was what, 7 years ago for them?

worn violet
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Deck of Many Things draws are pretty darn iconic

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Especially when a random NPC pulls the Wish card and a PC pulls the Void card

slender fossil
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Lol someone already updated the Fandom wiki entry for him too

simple marlin
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I was like... this guy seems so familiar

slender fossil
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5 years ago. 04-27-2017 he was last seen

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Also 174 sessions later (not counting one shots)

knotty hill
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I love dance party sessions lol

knotty hill
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SLAP FIGHT

knotty hill
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Yea, watching Vox Machina vs Prof. Anders is so nice

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"You were the face I saw when murder entered my heart!"

faint wharf
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My friend was talking about getting ready to watch the new episodes

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My brain immediately went: "Hey there Delilah, why don't you come to New York City..."

ruby quiver
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Pike my beloved. One of my favorites parts of C1

worn violet
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Scanbo 😭

lapis storm
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I havnt seen it yet

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Did they do it justice?

worn violet
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I loved it

worthy rain
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I assume Orym has Druid Initiate, I wonder what his 1st level spell is

trim copper
worthy rain
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oh, air subrace for halfling then

trim copper
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Yeah

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Its a homebrew variant of lotusden halfling iirc, it gives druidcraft and gust

worthy rain
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ahhh

worthy rain
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catching up on C3, onto e11, and just... How many times can people forget Blinded is a thing?

lapis storm
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As a DM, yes

worthy rain
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they go 'frightened is disadvantage on attacks' but forget that they have advantage to cancel it out because of blindness

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uugghhh and Bait and Switch doesn't have to stay within 5 feet, how do they not read

lapis storm
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You forget that not everyone, not even Mercer himself praise be will remember everything at all times

worthy rain
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it'd help if they could read what they're using after 6 years

trim copper
worthy rain
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it's a battlemaster maneuver, not bodyblocking as cover

trim copper
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I get that you’re peeved, but its not your table not your problem. Either enjoy or stop watching

lapis storm
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Sometimes it's best to just let things flow as well. We could spend all day going over their mistakes in CR but it's best to enjoy it for the entertainment Value, not the rules following

worthy rain
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the absolute mangling of something that needs only a basic level of reading comprehension is painful

worn violet
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It happens

trim copper
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Not your table, not your problem

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Watch and enjoy, or leave

worn violet
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The game has a lot of moving parts, a lot of people think they know how something works and figure they don’t need to read exactly how it works.

ruby quiver
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Even at my own table I forget things in the heat of the moment

trim copper
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Yeah and playing at a table with 9 ppl is still chaotic

ruby quiver
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Heck I forgot how crits worked for damage the other week for a minute

worn violet
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My players constantly have to remind me about how concentration checks work

worthy rain
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look, there's no way that I am some sort of ultra-smart brain encylopedia when it comes to the rules

worn violet
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Then why judge others when they slip up?

trim copper
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Simply stop nitpicking it then

worn violet
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Slip ups are common

worthy rain
trim copper
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Not your table, not your problem.
Enjoy or leave

worn violet
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Read it too quickly under pressure

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It happens

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No need to gatekeep their game over it

lapis storm
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Aud when you run your own tens of millions of dollars show, hottest on twitch, and produced a TV show and is streamed live every week, and you have to act, to Voiceovers and come up with content as well as remember the rules then you can enforce it whatever way you want.

worn violet
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They still enjoy their game, that’s all that matters.

lapis storm
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That's the main point

worn violet
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imo, a rules slip up on their stream is only a problem if it’s a problem for them.

lapis storm
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One of the reasons I'm so glad that they are also the showrunners and bosses

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No corporate influence and outside stuff

trim copper
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Im a rules lawyer, and i ask the same questions. But its not that big a deal. They chose to play it as him body shielding

worthy rain
trim copper
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Their game, their call.

worn violet
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Whatever impact it may or may not have had on their game, it’s their game. We’re just watching them play it.

trim copper
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Either enjoy their stream as they play it, or leave. That simple

lapis storm
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There actually was a great moment in C2 where Nott took the reaction from a dragon to save Jester as they both ran for the orb to teleport away, as Jester was really badly hurt so Nott tanked the AOO.

trim copper
lapis storm
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Nott ran and didn't use disengage. Dragon attacked her and almost killed her. Jester got to run free and leave.

worthy rain
lapis storm
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Thing is. Jester could have used her disengage as an action and ran anyway

worn violet
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It only needs to improve if the table thinks it needs improving

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Not our call

lapis storm
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But the story is way better because of it.

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I also don't watch them to learn how to play DND. Nor do I watch them for examples on it. I watch them because it's entertaining. I don't pay attention to the rules because matt probably has his own stuff going on

trim copper
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You are the one complaining about how a player and a DM chose to play out a battle master maneuver. At a table that you have no interaction with. You are the one that doesn’t seem to understand, just let it go its how they played it, not you.

worn violet
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Alright, maybe we can just cool down

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No need to get worked up over a streamed D&D that none of us have any part in.

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We’re allowed to have our criticisms, but at the end of the day, the stream is just them playing their game. All we can do is watch and enjoy.

lapis storm
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Agreed

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I prefer to watch it cos it's funny
It's like the WWE of DND

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Except not scripted

worthy rain
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yeah, no script

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no chance of scripting DND

lapis storm
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If you ever think it's scripted. Watch them try and do an ad read where it's from an actual script.

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Falls apart in about 12 seconds

worthy rain
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especially having to read and memorize 3 to 5 hours of acting and timing, there's a reason movies and shows often have cuts and other scenes

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they have trouble enough with the ads lol, yeah

lapis storm
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I mean it's too much work anyway. Just let the game be the game, its usually awesome enough

worthy rain
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that does irritate me when people say it's scripted, like
literally how would it in any functional way be scripted

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sure matt could have plot notes or scenes written down for monologues, but what if they just.... went to a different thing

worn violet
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I usually find a direct correlation between people who think the game is scripted and people who hold CR as the epitome of what every D&D game should be like

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It’s pretty funny and ironic actually

lapis storm
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Mm

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The Matt Mercer effect

worn violet
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Which I don’t like even referring to it as such tbh

lapis storm
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Simultaneously the best DM and also scripted at the same time

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Yeah he's said he hates it himself

worn violet
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I don’t think it’s particularly fair to name a negative phenomena in the game after someone who strives hard to demolish it.

lapis storm
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I prefer the term the Critical Role effect

ruby quiver
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I don't like either

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It's not a new thing at all

worn violet
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Yeah, the effect has always existed. People just found a name and face to attach it to.

worthy rain
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well, it's mostly from Mercer, due to him being such a good DM.

the effect is seeing something of such high quality, and then expecting other things to match up to it.

an example is a kid seeing football on TV, then wanting to play football with friends expecting it to be the same energy and pace.

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the effect does not originate from Matt, but it's an easy example to point to

lapis storm
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The main reason I prefer that is they look at the show and for some reason think that's how every game is. And they get spoiled. It's like looking at a game in the NFL and expecting your own game to look like that

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Oh snap

worthy rain
#

yeah, exactly

worn violet
#

Yeah, but easily described without attaching Mercer’s name to it, ya feel me?

worthy rain
#

what would a name for it be, though...

lapis storm
#

I myself hate the name and association but it's just the term for it now that everyone understands.

worthy rain
#

like people saying "would of"

ruby quiver
#

I'm partial to the "desirable DM effect"

lapis storm
#

Mmm

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I mean at the same time, I feel like the MM effect etc. Is mostly felt by DMs about themselves

#

You also have to understand that all the players in CR are absolutely top notch as well. They tend to know the game mechanics inside out most of the time, and roleplay up a storm when they need to also

worthy rain
#

could just call it the Quality effect

lapis storm
#

So it's not just Mercer. It's all of them together.

worthy rain
lapis storm
#

I mean look at late game season 2

worthy rain
#

by then they eventually had to relent and finally read their character sheet after what, 2 years?

lapis storm
#

Jesus there's no pleasing you about their gaming ability

worthy rain
#

also, on Orym, it literally would say "Attacks per action: 1" on his sheet, and he still thought he could attack twice with no action surge

#

while at level 4

#

things do what they say, really.

lapis storm
#

Liams never played a fighter

worthy rain
#

but surely he knows what "attacks per action: 1" means

lapis storm
#

Played a rogue for 2 1/2 years where he could attack all he liked

#

Well beleive it or not some people also aren't glued to their character sheets

worthy rain
#

you don't have to be glued to it for 15 minutes to read three words and a single number

trim copper
#

Dude, they don’t analize DDB. They’re looking at physical paper.

tribal pier
#

And didn't The ExU Cru hit fifth, so Orym did have two attacks?

lapis storm
#

No EXU backtracked to 3 I think

trim copper
#

No actually, they stayed around 2-3

lapis storm
#

Only 10.sessions or so

worthy rain
#

a very low level miniseries of like 8 episodes?

#

8 or 10 ish

worn violet
#

Yeah, they only made it to Level 3

lapis storm
#

Regardless, they've literally been playing the game since 2015, for 4 hours a week regularly. I'm sure they know what they're doing. They are often corrected by Matt at the table and he usually let's most things slide anyway

#

Because it's best to make sure people are having fun as opposed to following every single rule

worn violet
#

I mean, every game has a different standard for how much they want the rules to be prioritized

lapis storm
#

Exactly

worn violet
#

Different strokes for different folks

worthy rain
#

when they openly say something like "yes, I will allow spell combos to do cool stuff" that's fine

#

but when they try and brush complete skims as the rules then it gives me psychic damage

#

like the hex disadvantage on saves deal, still going on

ruby quiver
#

They know the things they need to know, and they take time to learn it

worn violet
#

Then it’s fine too. They never promised to be teaching people to play D&D.

lapis storm
#

Absolutely. Don't worry about it

worthy rain
worn violet
#

They play the games with the rules that suit them.

ruby quiver
#

It doesn't help that Matt himself changes the houserules they use each campaign

lapis storm
#

Why are you holding them to that standard?

ruby quiver
#

My favorite example however is Sam's oneshot

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He straight up said he doesn't know the rules as a DM

#

Yet, he was consistently reminding the rogue player of the abilities he could do

#

Because those are the rules he knows

lapis storm
#

I love how Sam still thinks of himself a s a total noob

worthy rain
#

and then in C3 he goes "Dexterity, I think that's Stealth?"

#

so...

lapis storm
#

Can I ask Aud

#

Did you write all of their mistakes down

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And have them to hand

worthy rain
#

if I did, my fingers would be chafed raw. It'd take a long while but it would be quite the long novel.

lapis storm
#

What is the point you're trying to prove here?

ruby quiver
#

The only point I'm getting is you are saying contradictory things

#

You want them to not make any mistakes, but you also know that even if you play for a long time you won't know all the rules and will still make simple mistakes

trim copper
#

All i hear is nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking

worthy rain
lapis storm
#

Yup

ruby quiver
lapis storm
#

I do too

#

Probably because they are not just "playing DND"

worthy rain
#

and everyone else comically shouts that they play dungeons and dragons

lapis storm
#

Just listen and read for a second

#

Acting, voice acting, listening, performing, taking notes, etc

#

Ask well as planning ahead, keeping their characters in line with their story, going along with matt's story as well as their own agendas

worthy rain
#

when there's something they know, and Matt says "I'll allow it", I don't really count that as an issue. Like the spell combos. He explicitly says he'll allow spell combo stuff like that.

lapis storm
#

So is it matt or is it the players?

trim copper
#

You come off as counting everything they do as an issue

worthy rain
#

Acting, voice acting, listening, performing, taking notes, planning ahead, keeping their characters in line with their story, going along with matt's story as well as their own agendas

is not a 24/7 thing. When they're in a combat, they've got "how to play" in front of them.

lapis storm
#

Oh Jesus

#

Ok dude

#

Whatever you want to do

#

I'm done with this now lol

#

I do have yet to see the newest episode. I can't catch it live with time zone

trim copper
#

Aud, enjoy the show as that table decides to play it, or stop watching. That simple

worthy rain
lapis storm
#

Write to Matt on Twitter

#

Give him some feedback and see how that goes

#

I'm sure you're the first one to decide they need to improve

worthy rain
lapis storm
#

Oh Jesus Christ

#

Right I'm off everyone, goodnight

worthy rain
#

but the point is
the time spent going over the rules 3, 4, 5, 6 times, and then still getting it wrong, to mechanically affect the battle - and then even in the same fight go for strict RAW to make an 'only sometimes' enforcement
takes so much more time than just reading that rule properly.

lapis storm
#

DONT WATCH IT THEN

#

Jesus the conversation is over

#

Noone cares man, honestly

trim copper
worthy rain
lapis storm
#

And moaning and complaining about it regardless is also helping

worthy rain
#

yes surely that will metaphysically improve things

lapis storm
#

As opposed to your literal Improvements here

#

Stop antagonizing the channel
I have tried changing the subject about 3 times now

worthy rain
lapis storm
#

Anything else

worthy rain
#

That is not an answer.

#

To what.

lapis storm
#

Bruh

#

I'm going to bed

#

Talk about something productive, or fun, or enjoyable for everyone maybe

#

Or just drop it

dire inlet
#

what the was that up here

lapis storm
#

Someone complaining about the rule following on CR. It's over now

tight talon
#

Sorry non spoiler related. Just bought the Critical Role Comics and The Exandria BoxSet which looks AMAZING!!!!. I know its not a spoiler but Im so excited I needed to say it. 👍

knotty hill
#

CR has pretty darn good comic support. They’re all fun.

#

Caleb’s was, wow.

worn violet
#

I’m really loving the Bright Queen

tribal pier
#

Laura got pissed with Robbie. 🤣

tight talon
#

@tribal pier Sorry, I think you mean Maude 😂😂

violet falcon
median quail
#

Has anyone seen the Vox Machina series yet?

worn violet
#

Many of us have, yes

trim copper
#

ye

gloomy sluice
worn violet
#

I can’t remember the last time things got a little tense OOC like that

#

I can think of a few times in the past where Liam got a little tense, though mostly because he was frustrated with his own bad rolls/decisions, but it’s been a while.

tribal pier
tribal pier
worn violet
#

I think it was a case of “I did what my character would do”, which… isn’t a great mentality to always have. But rookie mistake from a new player, I guess.

gloomy sluice
#

I mean, it didn't really seem like an in character choice

#

It seemed like Robbie didn't have a solid idea of how it would go

dusty grove
#

I guess he really didn't understand the situation and acted stupidly. A thing I normally see with ashley, who is still and probably will always struggle with what her character can do or what the most basic rules are. She is more an actor than a player in a game.

gloomy sluice
#

Laura/Imogen was real clear; let him see you pick up the ring and then palm it

#

I think the thing that had me almost screaming at the screen was that he had a valid reason to be conferring with Laura/Imogen (that telepathy is so useful) and just doubled down on a bad plan, even actively shutting her out

#

It was just infuriating to watch 😛

dusty grove
#

Most of the time it is fine and Fearne is a cool character but sometimes it really gets annoying. Maths is her biggest enemy though 🙂 She should just use dndbeyond for her rolls...

#

Yep, Robbie's move was pretty bad in and out of character.

worn violet
#

Maybe just a case of miscommunication/misunderstanding all across the board

#

Infuriating, but it happens

dusty grove
#

most of the time it is, like in real dnd 😉

worn violet
#

Exactly

#

Not the first time I’ve seen a heist/heist-adjacent plan fall through because of misunderstanding the plan

dusty grove
#

yep

#

As a player at my table I would get very upset but it's their table and mostly they seem to be ok with the chaos or actively want it, like Sam does.

#

Like not using Halfling Luck or keeping his Dagger a secret.

#

campaign two things

#

But Sam knows what he is doing and does it on purpose, some of the other players not so much.

worn violet
#

I don’t mind things like that too much tbh

#

I’d let my halfling luck slip on occasion personally, but I’m the type of player who likes to fail at things sometimes

dusty grove
#

Well, to a certain degree it is fine. One of my players is an agent of chaos too but she does it in a funny way that everybody enjoys.

gloomy sluice
#

I just think after so much plan flip flopping

#

To see a clear and simple opportunity go to waste

#

It was just argh 😛

worn violet
#

Playing characters who never fail is boring to me lol

worn violet
dusty grove
#

But a player not knowing their character after playing for weeks, months or even years that totally frustrates me.

worn violet
#

They’ve built their brand on half-baked plans that they still eventually make work

dusty grove
#

because Matt is a nice guy

worn violet
#

It would’ve been really interesting to see a plan actually go as planned for once

dusty grove
#

he always makes sure the story can continue, even if they fail as with Molly

#

drama is fine but this was just plain stupid

#

the fist fight with Ashton could go south pretty fast I think. I hope they manage to get out of that.

tight talon
#

I quite like how it turned out purely for the ‘he just proposed’ bit which was really funny. But it was a little uncomfortable to see everything go south.

lapis storm
#

To be fair, I actually had a hard time following where everything was at some point, I feel like Robbie wanted to do the plan because it was still "cool" and made sense to have it follow through.

runic forge
#

I think Robbie definitely got confused/flustered, but I don't think it was OOC - Dorian is generally an anxious person, and having someone shout in your head telepathically would be super stressful

#

Add a chaotic situation, and yeah, it would be easy to get mixed up

shut kelp
#

I am just happy Owlbear Man got a mention 😎

knotty hill
#

Final batch of episodes tonight!

devout axle
#

Can't wait!

tribal pier
#

I'm torn. Can't wait to see the climax, but I don't want it to end. 😶

faint wharf
#

Fairly sure a season 2 is confirmed

last flicker
faint wharf
#

Yea

gloomy sluice
#

Yeah, another 12 episodes

#

I hope there's more than 2 seasons

tribal pier
#

Well, that blush is gonna get giffed!

knotty hill
#

Such a nice finale 😄

knotty hill
#

Now it’s time for the world to burn.

knotty hill
#

Not PST Travis 😄 GMT

ruby quiver
#

LVM is so great

#

Those last 2 episodes

#

Hoo boy

knotty hill
#

Orthax was chunkier than I envisioned, but I loved the whole sequence of forging the List.

ruby quiver
#

Vox Machina my beloved

#

Ngl I had forgotten what happened right after, but as soon as that end speech started it hit me and it was an "oh heck" moment

#

||Acid gun|| was a funny moment too, exactly as I was hoping

#

Weirdest parts tho? ||seeing Percy happy smile||

knotty hill
#

||Seeing Vecna this early was cool.||

ruby quiver
#

For sure

#

So many amazing moments

#

The fights were so fluid

#

||spellcasting ladies my beloveds||

knotty hill
#

I audibly went "Oh no...." ||as soon as Uriel stated he had a proclamation to make.||

ruby quiver
#

Yea that's the exact Oh Heck moment

#

Cause I totally forgot that that is when that happened

#

Then I was validated 10 seconds later with ||Vex||

knotty hill
#

Can't wait to see her eventually.

ruby quiver
#

I can't wait to see everyone

#

And with season 2 already confirmed I'm vibrating

#

I can't wait

knotty hill
#

I almost feel like we need more than 12 episodes for it.

ruby quiver
#

Lol

knotty hill
#

Because the CC arc contained a lotta mini arcs here.

#

Like, maybe you could get it all in 16 episodes.

ruby quiver
#

There were a ton of things in these last 3 episodes

knotty hill
#

Since we have Vax's whole deal, Grog Arc, Vex arc, Keyleth stopover, and the finale.

#

A lot more globe trotting this time around.

knotty hill
ruby quiver
#

Yessss!

#

Also I did appreciate the change to ||Vaxleth. It makes more sense due to the changes that they did for the show||

knotty hill
#

||I had forgotten that Pike vanished before everything finished out. Darn you skype! lol||

ruby quiver
#

I do love that they kept that. But it also made sense in the story

knotty hill
#

Ok, back on the stream. Tal just failed 2 death saves.

ruby quiver
#

Hes finnnneee

knotty hill
#

Look, Tal is not allowed to keep his first character.

trim basin
#

With this voice, I foresee Chetney taking a Pick to Ashton, because there's gold in them/their hills.

knotty hill
#

lol Laura once more takes sending

knotty hill
#

Gotcha, Imogen is Fey-touched

dense marlin
#

They changed a lot with these last three episodes. I didn't mind it but they changed things

knotty hill
#

YES...

#

YES

#

DONOT!

violet falcon
#

That's why you always say your character names aloud a few times before setting them in stone.

crude sonnet
#

WOOOO

#

BELL’S HELLS

#

THEY FINALLY HAVE A NAME

slender fossil
#

Do they?

#

Perhaps it was a misdirect!

violet falcon
#

Dorian's last session? He got his brother...

crude sonnet
#

NOOOO

#

If Robbie leaves I’m gonna murder someone

knotty hill
#

I don't wanna lose him...

#

Noooo

violet falcon
crude sonnet
#

Yeah and?

knotty hill
#

Bye bye Robbie

#

Back to EXU he goes

slender fossil
#

is ExU still a thing? I thought that was just a one-off 8 episode bit

violet falcon
#

They said they will use the same moniker for other times when they have guest guides in the world.

knotty hill
#

Also the literal last shot of the stream is an EXU plug

worn violet
#

So how about those last three episodes, huh?

dire inlet
#

they ROCK

hardy dagger
#

Orthax really putting in the most for a CR 4 demon

worn violet
#

Just goes to show ya how little a creature’s CR matters in a narrative

hardy dagger
#

Well, I mean he was severely buffed, even for the fight during the campaign

#

It's just funny when you look up "Shadow Demon" expecting something really menacing and scary

#

and it's a CR 4 boi with an allergic reaction to radiant damage who's pretty good at hiding

pure ginkgo
#

Don't get me wrong I LOVE Grey Griffin as Delilah and think she's a perfect fit for the role but I honestly expected a more memorable delivery of the "I broke the world for us" line I feel like my head canon of Matt delivering it was way more haunting than this, still, I loved this series so much ❤️

knotty hill
#

IIRC, she screamed it during that fight.

#

😄 Don't worry Delilah. You two are flipping cockroaches...

#

Somehow you are still alive!

fallow perch
#

Did Grog go swimming in acid in the original? I remember the acid trap scene just not him swimming in it.

fallow perch
#

I love Delilah. She's a villain with so much humanity because of her love for her husband.

knotty hill
lapis storm
#

Her scream was still amazing. Chills

sonic lynx
#

ugggh

#

😩 season finale was so good

#

🙏🏾 Percy and orthax's whole deal has convinced me to play a character with a hexblade dip

#

I've never liked the idea of dipping hexblade because its so power gamey and people often just do it for how good it is mechanically so I never cared to do it

#

but uhh

#

👀

#

Percy and orthrax

faint wharf
#

Yeah ikr

#

And I love it because shadowfell lore

sonic lynx
#

Idk what shadow demons actually are tho

#

This does make me wanna play a samurai or battlemaster maybe with a hexblade dip tho !

worn violet
#

Don’t need a warlock level dip

#

Do what Taliesin did and take Warlock Magic Initiate

#

Then just flavor it

sonic lynx
#

Yeah idk I was just thinking hexblade dip because people keep talking about how good it is

sonic lynx
worn violet
sonic lynx
#

Hmmm

#

Wait so what happened after he severed the connection with orthax

worn violet
#

WAFO

sonic lynx
#

Did he keep the warlock initiate feat and the spells?

#

😩Mann

faint wharf
sonic lynx
#

Oh lol

#

It was so cool tho

worn violet
#

I believe Mercer buffed shadow demon stats to make Orthax a bit more of a challenge too

faint wharf
#

It's super cool

worn violet
#

Which even narratively could make sense, it was being fueled almost completely by Percy’s hate

faint wharf
#

I flavored my Summon Shadowspawn in one of my games as a shadow demon

#

his name was Jared

worn violet
#

It could only be Jared

faint wharf
#

Really loved this series

pure ginkgo
# knotty hill Somehow *you are still alive!*

Matt: has house rules limitations on resurrections so that deathes in Exandria have meaning
also Matt: Aw yeah I got a 2.5x Delilah coming back from the dead combo! let's see if I can get it up to 3x this campaign!

hardy dagger
#

The beauty of not having to play by the rules when it comes to NPCs. Granted, the first time she came back it was because ||she had a clone prepped||

knotty hill
#

I’m waiting for the reveal that somehow Sylas is still kicking it. Lol but I do have an idea about what’s up with Delilah.

worn violet
faint wharf
#

Yeah it's great

#

Makes it better too imo

knotty hill
#

I'm just waiting for Laudna's arc, because I feel like we'll be taking a trip into Ravenloft with her

faint wharf
#

That would be super cool

knotty hill
#

Seeing as Marisha already pulled there for Laudna’s patron, I believe that Delilah might have become a Darklord.

#

Coulda been cloned again, and when she tried to do some more shenanigans, she got sucked up. I’d love to see Delilah’s personal torture box.

worn violet
#

I’m betting she’s a wraith or something

#

Iirc the base lore is literally that necromancers can become wraiths when they’ve tampered with necromancy too much or something along those lines

knotty hill
#

Could a wraith be a patron?

crude sonnet
#

Yeah

#

Anything with enough power could be Id say

worn violet
#

The patrons just have to be otherworldly.

simple marlin
#

ye

knotty hill
simple marlin
simple marlin
worn violet
#

Mind you, none of whom have CR ratings.

#

Tal’Dorei Reborn even has potential patrons who were once mortals.

simple marlin
#

tons of examples

knotty hill
simple marlin
#

just a name

ruby quiver
#

It's a star basically

#

We have a decent amount of info

simple marlin
ruby quiver
#

Yea

knotty hill
#

Also, Ipkesh wasn’t a warlock patron IIRC? Just some Devil.

simple marlin
#

he signed a contract with percy

knotty hill
#

Yes.

#

Which didn’t make him a warlock.

worn violet
#

Still, there are no details regarding how strong a patron has to be CR wise

#

An imp can know magic a warlock wants to learn. So they make a pact.

knotty hill
#

Officially. But CR has had it be exceptionally powerful entities.

hardy dagger
#

technically Ipkesh was a cambion, so not even a devil

worn violet
#

Doesn’t need a Challenge Rating or even a generic official statblock.

#

There really isn’t even a need for any patron to have a statblock.

knotty hill
#

?

simple marlin
#

most of the time a warlock will never meet their patron in game

knotty hill
#

Yea, that's why Artagon and Uk'otoauk'oatoa don't either.

#

If they cannot be fought, no need to make up a stat block for em.

worn violet
#

Either way. Delilah doesn’t need to be anything more than a wraith.

simple marlin
#

matt has confirmed he does have stat blocks for both tho

knotty hill
#

That is one really powerful wraith then.

worn violet
#

Not necessarily

#

Cuz again, she doesn’t have to be

knotty hill
#

Per how it's been in CR. She has to be upwards of god-tier.

worn violet
#

She doesn’t have to be though? We can never really know how strong she is until we see a statblock.

#

Until then, everything is speculation.

knotty hill
#

Statblocks are irrelevant.

worn violet
#

I think you’re missing the point I’ve been trying to make re: how powerful a patron needs to be/doesn’t need to be.

#

So I’m just gonna bounce out 🤘🏼

ruby quiver
#

Galdric definitely isn't near God tier

knotty hill
#

Does Galdric have Warlocks?

ruby quiver
#

Neither is the Marid

#

Yes

#

Taldorei Reborn has a ton of new lesser idols

worn violet
ruby quiver
#

Galdric, the Marid that the MN freed, etc

simple marlin
#

man I gotta get this book

knotty hill
#

Ok so yes. Galdric is classed up there as an idol.

worn violet
#

A lesser idol

#

Not a god

simple marlin
#

not close to a god

#

as evidenced by artagan getting absolutely overpowered by sehanine

knotty hill
#

Which was never my point. Only that just about every Patron entity that Matt's introduced, to my knowledge, has been a figure of legend and adoration. Something that entire cults form around.

worn violet
#

And what Matt has done in the past doesn’t speak for what he could be doing now

#

Or what he does in the future

#

So again, speculation.

knotty hill
#

It kinda does. Delilah, in her life was a ninth level caster with the eye of Vecna. So it stands that now she has become even more powerful, to the point where she can now bestow power to others as Warlocks.

worn violet
#

And cults can be built around weak creatures too.

#

Idk, I’m not saying you’re wrong. I just think you have a very specific speculation as to what’s going on.

#

Ultimately, none of us know exactly what’s going on yet.

knotty hill
#

I was just tossing out an idea as to what might've become of her in life #3.

#

Since Marisha pulled from Van Richtens for her subclass. Maybe her and Matt worked out more things from it?

😄 It's all very fun.

simple marlin
knotty hill
#

Yep

simple marlin
#

oh shit she did

#

nice

knotty hill
#

She was one of the major final bosses of the campaign.

worn violet
#

Doesn’t mean she couldn’t have lost a significant amount of power in an incorporeal form

simple marlin
#

yeah death tends to slow most people down

knotty hill
#

Seems just to make these 2 much stronger lol

#

Putting a party of 7 level 20 adventurers on edge. 😄

simple marlin
#

Sylas would've been and was utterly destroyed if all of vox machina was awake

#

oops

#

he got his butt kicked once they all woke u[

worn violet
#

Sylas and Delilah were also boosted by a near-god lich

#

Who is now out of reach

#

So ya know. Not a lot bolstering Delilah atm.

simple marlin
#

yep

ruby quiver
#

Vecna isn't near god

knotty hill
#

He is a god

worn violet
#

He was in the beginning

#

Is what I meant

#

He was just a lich

ruby quiver
#

Ah

knotty hill
#

Vox Machina took too long and voila. Divine Lich

worn violet
#

“Just” a lich

simple marlin
#

vecna never reached godhood

worn violet
#

He did

simple marlin
#

oh shit he did

#

thats right

worn violet
#

He completed the Ritual of Ascendence or whatever they call it

simple marlin
#

yea

#

ritual of seeding

worn violet
#

Yes

#

Which lines up with the Dawn War pantheon Mercer based Exandria’s pantheon on

knotty hill
#

That’s why Vox Machina couldn’t actually kill him now. All they could do was open up the divine gate and push him through.

worn violet
#

Yep

knotty hill
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Which…. The EXU crew might’ve broke a bit lol 😂

worn violet
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Let’s find out

knotty hill
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Hopefully Orym let Keyleth know about the really weird cube thingy.

ruby quiver
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Gleam the cube

simple marlin
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wait they broke the divine gate? I don't remember that part of EXU

knotty hill
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Very very end, when they turned the cube off.

simple marlin
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oh right

dusty grove
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Maybe, I didn‘t get that part. What was the cube?

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I was so focused on the fight… 😂

knotty hill
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It sounded related to the divine gate from the inscription.

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The universe above
The universe within
Remember what came before
Decide what happens next
Provide for all
A shield to protect.

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And then the cube broke apart.

dusty grove
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Oh shit... that could open some real bad can of worms

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maybe connected to the Netherdeep?

simple marlin
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netherdeep would've been in development for a while before exu I think but its possible!

dusty grove
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If they knew what was in the book the better and they could put a nod to it in exu. I think Abraya had a part in the book too...

pure ginkgo
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So since we can cross reference the animated series and for the sake of fun speculation, which "necromantic blast" do we think is the one that blessed us with laudna? The blast that occurred after the failed summoning of vecna/creation of the spinning sphere of death? The mass raise undead spell that made the horde of zombies? An off screen blast? Or something else entirely?

knotty hill
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I don’t recall Vecna being the goal back then.

ruby quiver
fallow perch
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I was a listener after it all happened so I really didn't witness how it went down on social media.

charred atlas
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Oh ok

fallow perch
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That being said. His character was really entertaining but he just started being a bad player for the table.

charred atlas
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He's still there his final episode is 27 from what the article said

pseudo isle
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yes, episode 24 is the start of a new arc, not the end of Orion being on the show

charred atlas
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Grog is funny

last flicker
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they cut out his character from the legend of of vox show

fallow perch
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Yeah. They really want nothing to do with him and want to move on IIRC.

lapis storm
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I mean

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Dude was a bad dude

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I've had to remove players for similar reasons. I'm sure a lot of DMs may have here also

trim copper
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His ego really ruined it. And he dug his own grave

simple marlin
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Matt handled it very maturely still though even thanking him on ep 100

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He also tried to romance a lesbian iirc? Allura?

lapis storm
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Wasn't officially stated as a lesbian until later

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Technically wasn't confirmed officially until C2

simple marlin
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ah

trim copper
simple marlin
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yeah that turned me off of critical role for a bit until someone told me he left later on

trim copper
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I got into CR for campaign 2. But after hearing what he did. I didn’t start c1. Among other factors

simple marlin
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yeah I wouldn't reccomend c1 until after ep 27

lapis storm
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C1 is jank. But it's great. Lots of terrific moments and wonderful story telling, terrific roleplay and really awesome character growth

simple marlin
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which is a real shame

lapis storm
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I would suggest the Briarwood Arc regardless. Some of Matt's best work

slender fossil
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I still say start C1 at the start, because it's the purest version of watching people just play their home game

trim copper
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Its the lack of smooth introduction for me, the mid arc intro really didn’t sit with me. Especially since it was halfway through their campaign

slender fossil
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And some of the best comedic moments happen in those first 27 episodes

lapis storm
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I think that's one of the reasons C2 was so good for me

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You got the whole entire package, from day 1, but C2 is my favorite for.many reasons

trim copper
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C2 was definitely great

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I do like the contrast between the two groups

simple marlin
trim copper
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VM was heroes of the realm and TMN was unsung heroes

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I wonder what c3 will become

lapis storm
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I've said it before but one thing I love is how one group is super famous and basically well known across the entire realm and the other is just not known at all

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Loo snap

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I feel like C3 is even more so a group of absolute nobodies

simple marlin
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C2 just happened in a very pivotal moment in my life and it just resonated with me

lapis storm
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And ilove it. It's inspired me to make my next campaign super small scale and intrigue based

simple marlin
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thats why jester is my favourite fictional character of all time

lapis storm
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Caleb/fjord for me

trim copper
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As individuals?

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Or a ship?

lapis storm
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I mean

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As characters but look I won't argue that'd be hot

trim copper
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Fjord is definitely straight. And you should read the new caleb graphic novels

simple marlin
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Caleb is poly and pan

trim copper
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Extra steam. And uncensored ( in a way)

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Caled is canon bi, no?

lapis storm
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Caleb is absolutely Pan I think

simple marlin
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Caleb is canon pan

lapis storm
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And definitely Poly. Wasn't he seeing both of the other students, Aistrid and

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What was his name

simple marlin
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Euodwolf

lapis storm
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Yes indeed

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Hawt

simple marlin
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(i'm dyslexic I don't know how to spell it sorry)

lapis storm
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No it's good no worries

trim copper
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Aedwulf

lapis storm
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Regardless Fjord for his constant identity issues and even when he's called handsome, and whatever he's constantly doubting himself and his abilities

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And Caleb for his constant self doubt. Even when he's told hes a good person he just can't believe it.

simple marlin
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yeah I definetly saw myself in all parts of the nein

lapis storm
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Mmmm

simple marlin
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my personality is very inspired by fjord, jester and Cad

lapis storm
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Cad is just a good dude

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Down for whatever

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Uncle Ducey

simple marlin
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yeeeee

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everyone needs an ace uncle

trim copper
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Cad the ace uncle is amazing

simple marlin
#

ah it was scanlan that was pan poly

tribal pier
simple marlin
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so you get zarrah and kash

tribal pier
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Those 4 are really important later on.

simple marlin
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yeah they are

lapis storm
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Felicia's character was delightful

simple marlin
#

Rakshasa

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Lyrah right?

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loved her

lapis storm
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Aye

tribal pier
simple marlin
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yessssss

fallow perch
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Zarrah is so good.

simple marlin
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so dope

fallow perch
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I loved her.

lapis storm
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I feel like with Travis in early C3, when you know you're character is a temp, you tend to go to 11 all the time and I love it so much

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Bell was such a dumb boi but we loved him. I feel like Travis knew he could just do whatever

ruby quiver
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Note: Allura and Kima were confirmed not straight within the streaming of C1

simple marlin
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Allura is bi kima is lesbian

lapis storm
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Oh I must have missed it. I assumed the real reveal was when we saw them in C2

trim copper
simple marlin
trim copper
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Ah

trim copper
slender fossil
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Jazz hands/spirit fingers got repopularized by Bring It On, but I mean they're all voice actors so likely drama geeks... So well acquainted I'm sure even without the movie reference

hardy dagger
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The struggle I feel between wanting to play the bejeezus out of Elden Ring and watching the absolutely godlike lineup for the one-shot...

worn violet
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Oh there’s a one-shot Friday?

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(I’m not caught up)

simple marlin
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GOD like

hardy dagger
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an Elden Ring one-shot, yes

worn violet
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Oh god what a cast

simple marlin
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Oh god I just realized

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Sam and brennan in the same room

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Uh oh

trim copper
kind geyser
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Is imogen related to the Temult storehouse that comes into play ep 11 c2?

knotty hill
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🤷

simple marlin
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very possibly

ripe chasm
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I miss Robbie😔 (think this is the right channel)

knotty hill
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Back to EXU he goes

slender fossil
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did anyone listen to tonight's one shot?

lapis storm
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I will when I get home

trim basin
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I missed the end of last week, is Robbie gone forever or is he likely to pull a Travis and have an alternate character show up?

violet falcon
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He's not coming back any time soon.

trim basin
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😦

ruby quiver
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He's returning to EXU

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Aka EXU is likely to crossover again in the future

slender fossil
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Lol, Matt having to roleplay with himself

violet falcon
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He did it to himself.

burnt badger
#

I can't wait I miss that goofy dwarf lol

knotty hill
#

This could be such a problem

knotty hill
#

Bye bye stealth mission lol

crude sonnet
knotty hill
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I swear, Ashton's subclass just sounds so broken at times lol

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Fundamental Chaos. Just an AOE slow spell.

worthy rain
#

if it's just speed and reactions, sorta fair

if it also does the AC and attack limiting and even spellcasting slowing? jeez

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also, what system was used for the Elden Ring oneshot? Or was it just modded 5e on paper

lapis storm
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Sounds like modded 5e

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Used a lot of D20s and skills checks, I'd say matt just homebrewed the stamina bar to try and Implement rolling and stuff

slender fossil
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Yeah I liked the stamina : dodge /block mechanic

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Be something neat to add to melee in 5e I think

worn violet
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I think it served well for their Soulsborne one-shot, but idk how well it would look in the long run.

hardy dagger
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Granted I don't have the "costs" in front of me but dodging seemed like the better option to blocking most of the time. I assume that blocking was cheaper stamina-wise than dodging, but dodging always meant taking 0 damage if the DC was passed (dunno how the DC was calculated, either). Which is sort of the inverse of how Souls/Elden Ring games work, where blocking could cost more stamina to do but was consistent, whereas dodging was always the same amount of stamina used, but you had to time it right

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I guess in their system that blocking also had the chance to parry/stagger so that was the other incentive

slender fossil
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Yeah that stagger /perfect block is something that I think 5e melee is missing

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Like I think if I were to make it more 5e compatible, it would be a reaction to block - reduce damage by some die size (perhaps either level based, or equipment based), and that perfect block could be triggered PB times a day to reduce damage to zero /stagger

violet falcon
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I'm actually working on a Brawler class where one of the main thing it does is stagger opponents.

slender fossil
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It's Thursday night!

knotty hill
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Matt confusing Marisha right now

violet falcon
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Well... Took them a while to figure out Ice Knife.

knotty hill
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She knew it was a Charisma save at the top, then he said Constitution and that's it. lol

violet falcon
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Also, if it was 9 + 14 with one hit, it should be DC 28.

knotty hill
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Oh fun

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Imogen doing a naughty

trim copper
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laudna really struggling with them low rolls

worn violet
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Plot Twist: Delilah Briarwood isn’t her patron, Wil Wheaton is.

dire inlet
#

who's Wil Wheaton?

violet falcon
night spire
#

is there a critical role community for playing DnD by post?

worn violet
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You might find something Exandria-based in there

fallow perch
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Fern going back to bed at 3:01 AM was priceless.

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I love how Ashley and Travis handled that.

charred atlas
#

What episode of campaign 1 does the dragonborn sorcerer go away again?

hardy dagger
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28 IIRC

forest narwhal
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spoiler I think

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campaign 1 episode 92 sam sponser sketch

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mats comment is pretty funny when you consider what sam plays in campaign 3

lapis storm
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Yeah it's 28, he officially leaves

worn violet
#

New State of the Role for anybody interested: https://youtu.be/Cz1Ma9OzbUs

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lean karma
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I was hoping for news on legend of vox machina

knotty hill
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That'll be a while. They just released the first season.

worn violet
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Yeah, we already know they’re working on a second season. But S1 just barely dropped, it’s probably too early to tell what’s going on.

cursive karma
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Oh no

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It’s not embedding

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Well, tldr another member of critical role has become a part of the marvel films

worthy rain
trim copper
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If you make it, you stay up at 1HP

muted cipher
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Ya know what. I bet I know why nobody wants to discuss when the CotN adventure starts in the crit role timeline. It will tie into CR 3. Watch Hells Bells come acros Ayo Jabe and the other Rival group.

night spire
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I think its clear that the adventure isnt meant to tie into the campaigns . its meant to expand the world of Exandria

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The only Tie ins are the locations you visit, not the NPCs you are to interact with

muted cipher
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I believe there were a few hints at Easter Eggs, so maybe that is as far as they will go.
But even in the last episode, #16, at 1:57:14, I think Imogen may have picked up something having to do with the CotN adventure.

worthy rain
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Does the entirety of Campaign 2 take place over just barely under 1 whole in-game year?

Starts at 16 Sydenstar 835 PD

13 Horisal is approximately when EGTW is 'set'

Ends at aroundabout 13 Sydenstar, then does epilogue stuff over the in-game years

gloomy sluice
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according to critrole stats, 327 day elapsed before the epilogue

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First calendar event is them meeting in a tavern on 16 Sydenstar, and the last pre-epilogue event is 14 Sydenstar where they present Ikithon to the Cobalt Soul

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So 1 day short of a year, 😛

worthy rain
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alrighty

gloomy sluice
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Crit Role Stats is an amazing resource, even Matt uses it 😛

worthy rain
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"What was I doing again?"
"Ah yes, I definitely remember this happening."

the benefits of a fanbase that scrutinizes and records

fallow perch
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I did not realize Tiberius had a wisdom of 4. Wow.

hardy dagger
#

makes sense, considering his inability to read the room

worn violet
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Oof

fallow perch
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Haha I was thinking that too.

simple marlin
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LOL

grizzled roost
#

What’s happening with this rock my internet is bugging

viscid quest
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it's a shard of gnarl rock from the fey wild, it changes things and essentially makes them 'gnarled' is what i got from it

grizzled roost
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Ah

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I dislike my buggy internet

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Ok it’s back what’s happened since

viscid quest
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Just debate on what to do with it

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right now Imogen is taking it

grizzled roost
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Thank you

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You are very helpful

viscid quest
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of course!

knotty hill
#

After the Rabbit!

knotty hill
#

.

#

.

#

.

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Fearne

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Morrigan?

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Does this name require a "The" at the front? lol

viscid quest
#

Ok so that's like the celtic goddess right?

knotty hill
#

And now the mention of her making stellar meat pies.

knotty hill
viscid quest
#

that bodes well all things considered (sarcasm)

knotty hill
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I mean, depending on the circumstances.

viscid quest
#

That's true

knotty hill
#

Oh

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Laudna's from that family.

slender fossil
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Yeah

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I was just realizing that

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Was hoping that she didn't make it that that obvious in the story telling though by mentioning hanging from the tree

violet falcon
#

Why not?

slender fossil
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Just leave it with the told to serve a greater purpose line

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Cause too on the nose

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Don't need to be bludgeoned with the cluehammer that hard

knotty hill
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Or just talk about it, because this isn't a thing really for speculation.

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It's her backstory. Here we have our "Vex"

ruby quiver
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Wiki already updated lol for "first appearance"

knotty hill
#

Now we await the how/why she lives again.

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Hey there Delilah, why can't you leave her alone?

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WHAT THE

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They have sprinklers!

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Wow

slender fossil
violet falcon
#

0 days since innuendo...

knotty hill
#

Anniversary time.

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The time to induce all the drama!

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These are the WORST people to run into a Fairy lol

viscid quest
#

yuuup

knotty hill
#

They are about to get shot up by 20 toothpicks

viscid quest
#

wisdom save here we go

knotty hill
#

Now we're just traumatizing the pixie lol

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"Behold! My beheaded rat with a raven skull blinks like you!"

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Fairies confirmed for Pizza Rat.

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We've been angler fish'd

stable ore
#

what in the world is that creature they encounter at the end

trim copper
#

Fearns family is in aeor? Interesting

trim copper
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Oh hey Ginni D in the commercial. Neat

dire inlet
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Holy my, Laudna! Poor Orym, so heavy insight boom

trim copper