#critical-role-spoilers

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polar falcon
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boy, no way Orym takes up the sword that killed his family

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...maybe Chetney

viscid harbor
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Circle of Spores is also a fun idea

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That I think Sam would run with

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Just play a fun little guy who has spores in their blood.

robust zealot
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I can't see him playing another cleric right now, but maybe if he wants to be a support character... Spirit bard? Celestial warlock? Stars druid... Some type of ranger...

viscid harbor
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He's played a Warlock before in EXU, and he is known to stick with what he knows.

sage furnace
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rogue maybe?

viscid harbor
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So that could be a thing.

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He played a rogue with Nott though

sage furnace
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what about ... artificer?

viscid harbor
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oooo

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We haven't had one of those yet

robust zealot
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I don't think we will see him play a class he's mained in a campaign before .

viscid harbor
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Does EXU count as a campaign though, or a limited series?

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BEcause he played a Warlock/Bard there.

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And I think he'd be a great full Warlock,

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Pact of the Chain maybe as opposed to Blade like Fjord.

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or Tome, even.

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Celestial Warlock, Pact of the Tome would be sick.

robust zealot
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True . But that wasn't for a long period of time. I would love to see him play a celestial tome lock.

viscid harbor
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(What if he plays a Warlock of the Changebringer just to break our hearts? I would cry so many tears)

robust zealot
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Uhh

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What's happening.

lunar sparrow
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Why is everyone leaving?

robust zealot
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Omg!!!

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Aabria!!!

lunar sparrow
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An exandria unlimited mini??

sage furnace
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i love it

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So what happened last session?

polar falcon
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oooooh story split!!

lunar sparrow
sage furnace
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im not always watching the live streams so its confusing

polar falcon
lunar sparrow
sage furnace
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ah gotcha

robust zealot
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Dang it, I was going to go to bed, but now that aabria is here, I'm not sure I can....

polar falcon
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I've been waiting for them to catch up with the crown keepers but thought it would be a one-shot!!

lunar sparrow
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They have her backpack and swords

robust zealot
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Wonder if Sam is going to be on team aabria?

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And who else is on this team... Please please please let Brennan be here tonight.

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Oh wow, if he is, he's probably not rejoining the main crew anytime soon. We might be looking at another multi episode split group

polar falcon
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i wonder if matt will get to be a player with dariax... or maybe theyre planning on merging the two groups and that will bring in Sam's new character?

robust zealot
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If this is a moon team, we better see a celestial tome lock with the ASPECT OF THE MOON simply for flavor.

polar falcon
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there are moon-based subclasses in the taldorei book too

robust zealot
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Lunar sorcerer as well

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Moon druid

polar falcon
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wizard, sorc and.. cleric?

robust zealot
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Crown keepers!!!!!!

lunar sparrow
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Matt is playing? I don’t know how to process this

robust zealot
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Lol

viscid harbor
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Pretty sure Matt doesn't either lol

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But his character is stunning

robust zealot
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I love Matt playing dwarves.

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Wait.. it's been a while. He's a dwarf right??

lunar sparrow
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He does the accent really well

robust zealot
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Level 13 sorcerer bard.

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Fair.

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Sheesh... 21 strength monk????

sage furnace
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21?

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how?

robust zealot
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Gotta be a belt

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One of the giant strength belts.

sage furnace
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gotcha. that makes sense

robust zealot
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Hill giant

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Flat 21

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So Morrighan is a 12 strength level 13 harengon paladin dedicated to the matron of ravens... Very interesting.

polar falcon
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fighting lolth possession??

knotty hill
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Really did not expect to come back to sudden Exandria Unlimited session

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$50 to haste Opal!!! 😈

lunar sparrow
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Wait wut

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Opal Thule?

polar falcon
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the barbie voice dndLol

viscid harbor
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What in the sam hell is going on here, Aabriaaaaa

knotty hill
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Hashtag Blessed lol

knotty hill
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The Spider Queen really needs her champion in line for what's next

polar falcon
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betrayer god champions are not getting asked nicely

paper dawn
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Wait, Aabria is here? The Crown Keepers? What I miss?

polar falcon
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2nd half of the episode it switched to them

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things with opal are going.. Not Well

fair wind
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It is interesting to me how many people are upset/bothered by switching to Exandria Unlimited characters. The Crown Keepers are where we first me Dorian, Orym, and Fearne. Go back and watch at least the first mini-series, Prime. It is truly a great adventure. Plus, watching Matt as a PC is worth it. Oh, also Aabria is a wonderful storyteller.

polar falcon
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looks like from twitter it'll be a 2-episode interlude before getting back to the regular crew

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ill admit EXU wasn't my favorite as it felt like a lot of short vignettes vs a coherent singular story like I'd expected, but the characters are fun and interesting so a short break is fine with me

worn violet
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I think the story, specifically Opal's, also seems like it'll bleed into the main campaign, so I don't think it doesn't make sense to reintroduce the Crownkeepers

fair wind
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Considering their individual connections to gods (Spider Queen, Wild Mother, Raven Queen), it absolutely will tie into the main campaign to stop THE GOD EATER.

swift dune
# fair wind It is interesting to me how many people are upset/bothered by switching to Exand...

I think the bother comes from the change coming IMMEDIATELY after the death of FCG. Previously the death of a PC would usually lead to 1-2 episodes of the remaining party figuring out what the hell to do now. Instead, there is zero follow-up and viewers are hurled into the middle of an already ongoing conversation that has nothing to do with the previous "build up" of the last dozens of episodes.

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And the 25-minute conversations taking place in 6 seconds of combat rounds were unbearable IMO

crude sonnet
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Ngl, I find all the people complaining about it unbearable. Like, get over it and just watch the show, don’t got to be so dramatic.

swift dune
low socket
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Some people don’t click with aabria’s style of DMing she tends to like alot of talking during combat and lots of narrative moments

worn violet
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I can also understand to a degree the frustration of having such a huge shift in the plot immediatelt after such a heavy moment in Bell's Hells's story

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I'm not saying people should go out of their way to ruin everybody else's fun or anything, but it's easy enough to just go, "Well, this isn't for me. I'll be back when BH is back."

tranquil sparrow
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Probably because the shift was planned well in advance.

worn violet
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I think she's implying that the people who don't like the shift to the Crownkeepers are people who don't know how to have fun. Which I personally find to be a bit of an unfair reductive point-of-view.

tranquil sparrow
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FCG dying was not planned, so the massive shift is exactly that, because it wasnt planned, so was a little jarring for some.

polar falcon
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It's a little weird pacing wise, and while I don't mind it personally, I could see why it would feel too disruptive

tranquil sparrow
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I just think people like to complain, and the most vocal are normally the most negative in most fan spaces.

dim owl
dim owl
# low socket Some people don’t click with aabria’s style of DMing she tends to like alot of t...

I loved Aabria in calamity, wasn’t a huge fan of Deanna but liked the chemistry. I absolutely can’t stand her as a dm. She is very much a “it’s all about me” dm. She HAS to inject her thoughts into everything. No moment is just allowed to be had. There has to be some lul randomz comment in there too. Also, this last round of her dming really felt like someone trying to mimic Brennan. I still think she’s kick ass and I love her in the other dropout stuff I’ve seen her in.

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And fair admission - she still runs circles around the average DM (definitely me) I’m just comparing her to the others at a professional level.

manic trout
tranquil sparrow
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Also why would you not try and pick up bits and pieces from BLM, the G.O.A.T DM

idle carbon
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FCG

pure ginkgo
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FCG.

knotty hill
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Yay, we got Robbie back with the Hells

polar falcon
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aabria came for blood for sure, and I know a lot of rules were RoC'd away and folks were mad about it, but at the end of the day the story told in that fight was very good

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I loved the image of Mori leading Cyrus's soul to the afterlife 😭

paper dawn
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Oh shoot Dorian’s brother died?

polar falcon
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yeah spider queen killed him

manic trout
low socket
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Anyone else feel they have watched the last 2 episodes of CR and nothing has happened, none of the story has stuck in their head. Just 6 hours of weird combat/talking

daring laurel
worn violet
obtuse schooner
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This may not solely be critical role topic but it involves critical role. Anyone have any quotes that I could use and put on my graduation cap?

low socket
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Long may he reign

sage furnace
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What are your favorite Critical Role characters?

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Also is anyone watching the livestream?

knotty hill
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And now the Hell's are being complete jerks to Keyleth and everyone else.

"How dare you keep sending us group of screw ups on these dangerous do or die missions?!"
"No, no, it's alright, you don't have to go."
"Hey, I was just kidding. We just wanted to see your reactions, and figure out what leverage we have."

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Chetney, please roll that 100 now if you need any more motivation to do everything you can to stop Ludinous.

knotty hill
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Hotboi has returned, and now we’ve captured Astrid

polar falcon
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lol happy beacon day everyone

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i bet caleb and astrid use that shop to exchange information dndLol

hasty mortar
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Hey, has anybody figured out what makes FCG tick? Is it like an arcane battery that absorbs and releases charges in the form of damage? I know Matt designed a homebrew cleric domain for Sam, but I believe it has to do with FCGs sub race

ruby quiver
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Appeared to be a modified warforged but not much past that and doesn't seem to follow a lot of the concepts of it

We know that aeormaton are the exandrian warforged equivalent, but not too much about them in general. Especially not fcg who seemed a lot more customized in various ways

hasty mortar
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Hmm. Hopefully Crit Role release their homebrew classes and races at the end of C3. Gunslinger and bloodhunter are awesome, but I’d love to see how other stuff like FCGs “overkill” works

manic trout
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Looking at it from hindsight, Fjord proposing to Jester had to be one of my favorite moments simply because how hard it is to catch Laura and Sam off-guard.

worn violet
# hasty mortar Hmm. Hopefully Crit Role release their homebrew classes and races at the end of ...

They have released homebrew in their third-party books, but considering they’re working on their own Daggerheart system, I’d be hard pressed to believe they’re gonna be working on publishing any 5E system any time too soon. Which is not to say they won’t in the future, just that I don’t think there are any immediate plans to do anything other than their own systems’ stuff at the moment.

hasty mortar
worn violet
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I don’t know that they’ll ever fully break off from 5E for the purpose of their stream, but I’m sure they’ll be pushing their own systems (both Candela Obscura, which is already published and often streamed, and Daggerheart, once it’s fully published).

manic trout
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I have either a brilliantly terrible or terribly brilliant idea.

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When it comes Chetney especially.

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It might give him a heart attack, but let's have him meet his kids, if he has any.

knotty hill
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What do you mean by "Overkill"?

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Like, are you talking about FCG's stress system? Because I think that one is entirely on Sam's end here because he wanted to have that gimmick.

tranquil sparrow
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CR live right now

knotty hill
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THE BIRD IS LOOSE

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Desirat

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Asmodeus has his ride back!

manic trout
manic trout
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Aaand Pumat Sol is back too.

lunar sparrow
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I love Liam but he always makes such emo characters

crude sonnet
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Gaslight gatekeep girlboss

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But less girlboss tbh

lunar sparrow
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It’s more immortal Lich queen
Less girl boss

polar falcon
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what a packed episode, we got interrogation, cerberus assembly lore, shopping, grief therapy, essek lore, dunamancy lore, team bonding, light romance, team tension, team pvp, and deep romance + angst

copper minnow
worn violet
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Yeah, Liam does a good job of playing the straight man role in a group of chaos gremlins.

lunar sparrow
mental steeple
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I cannot recommend dimension20’s fantasy high jr year enough. The last fight had something like 10 different casters on the field with counter spell, an effectively two story battlefield, npcs with stakes to protect, and multiple combat objectives. And an incredible battlemap with wires and LED

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Everyone was on top of their abiltiies, spells, and checks, basically the kind of dnd play CR forgotten

robust zealot
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Oh my God... That thorim ad. I really want Liam and Tal to play German characters next. That was fantastic.

polar falcon
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More aeor shenanigans ahoy!

echo mulch
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when does the episode start this week? or is there no episode

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i missed the intro last week

worn violet
polar falcon
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I am very curious if they'll save Sam's new character reveal for the live show

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Looks like that may be the course... Unless they plan to replace his slot in the party w/ Dorian??

daring needle
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oh lord almighty i just finished campaign 1 episode 68

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that was so much

neon thicket
red epoch
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watching matthew lillard pop up on critical role for an ad read but not a real character is so funny yet so heartbreaking, i hope he shows up in campaign 3 somewhere

worn violet
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Oh sweet, LoVM S3 teaser trailer dropped

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Release date 10/3

honest osprey
fading wharf
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I can’t wait! Gonna have to rewatch the series before it drops, I wonder if we’re going to get more awesome songs

worn violet
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I’m almost positive we will

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We got some fun original songs in the first two seasons, it would be a damn shame if they just decided to stop on S3

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I’m just mostly curious to see whether Mercer is voicing the Whispered One or if they cast someone else to do it

copper minnow
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I wonder who they will get to voice thordak now

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its not easy to replace someone like Lance Reddick (RIP)

worn violet
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I’m curious as to whether or not he had already recorded his lines, but agreed. Not an easy guy to replace.

prisma sparrow
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Does the chapters mean new campaigns? Because I can't access c1 on spotify

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Nor the start of c2

gloomy sluice
prisma sparrow
low socket
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There’s a link to Spotify

gloomy sluice
prisma sparrow
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Ok I just found a playlist with all of c1

daring needle
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starting the countdown to Thordak in campaign 1. very exciting stuff so far

robust zealot
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Oh boy... So the live show had a thing happen:
Sam's back. Playing a Minotaur or Tiefling (Probably this) Paladin/Bard.
STR: 20
DEX: 12
CON: 14
INT: 12
WIS: 8
CHA: 19

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Braius Doomseed. 18 AC, 114 HP

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(What's been posted online with screenshots of his character card)

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(And him dressed up of course)

paper dawn
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Surprised they didn’t make it a livestream as well

knotty hill
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He's also a paladin of Asmodius.

worn violet
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Which is bound to get interesting

cold wolf
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Can I ask a question about CR campaign 1?

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What does the deathwalkers ward do? Like in stats, and abilities

copper minnow
cold wolf
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But in the show it makes him go fast, is that a thing that was added in?

ruby quiver
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The show isn't the game

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The mechanics and abilities of everything are all different

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Some for copyright. Most because it's no longer a game in the show, but a story

copper minnow
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they changed a lot of details for the show. like the ward was essentially combined with his boots of speed

worn violet
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Yeah, iirc Vax was loaded up with magic items by the tail end of the VM campaign

ruby quiver
lunar sparrow
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Riegels back… back again…

knotty hill
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He’s back! Brennan returns!

worn violet
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Sweet! Another flashback mini-arc run by Brennan!

low socket
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Set in aeor so everyone will talk like bolo

worn violet
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God I can only imagine

frosty canopy
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I just saw the tiktok for Downfall and omg I'm so excited to have Brennan back

worn violet
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I was wondering why he was the opening MC for the live show but didn’t play

frosty canopy
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I'm still a bit behind so I didn't know he was there (started ep 97 last night)

polar falcon
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when an age of arcanum floating wizard city needs to be destroyed, you gotta call in brennan

worn violet
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When you need your heart and spirit destroyed, you call him in too

sage furnace
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critical role is on?

honest osprey
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I really like how Critical Role is doing Abridged episodes.

sage furnace
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is critical role on?

frosty canopy
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Cr is on break for the last week of the month and then next week is a us holiday so no episode then either 😭

lunar sparrow
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next 3 thursdays are doing DOWNFALL which is another EXU mini-campaign

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and i know im mostly alone on this but im not an Aabria fan

polar falcon
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I don't think Downfall is EXU technically? Though it seems to share similarities to Calamity. And I love Aabria but she is not in it, its DMed by BLeeM with players Ashley, Taliesin, Laura, Noshir Dalal (from the mortal kombat one-shot and a Candela), Nick Mariani (an actor new to CR I believe), and Abubakar Salim (also an actor, I think he has only hosted a 4sD for CR?)

worn violet
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Yeah, Downfall isn’t officially being called ExU. It’s more like they’re watching a flashback within C3.

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That said, I can understand the confusion. Especially considering it almost feels like a spiritual successor to Calamity, which was also DM’d by Brennan.

sage furnace
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Whats Downfall?

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Whats ExU?

low socket
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EXU - exandria unlimited is a few small adventures run by different DMs aabriya and Brennan

sonic dawn
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I cannot believe how late I am to campaign 3, I’m nearly finished the first episode and realized how much I’ve missed out on 💀

quartz solstice
frosty canopy
sonic dawn
frosty canopy
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Robbie was such a wonderful addition to the group. They had a lot of great guests in C3 so far

polar falcon
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The abridged series does help for catch up and rewatch I've found

low socket
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@polar thunder was it in calamity when the tree exploded and took someone’s arm off cause there rings exploded?

worn violet
foggy helm
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So i origially started with CR3 and then after ab 30 ep started over at CR1. Im now on CR2 ep 65.

my question is: do i need to watch all 144 ep to understand everything that will happen in CR3?

low socket
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There are a few call backs to things that have happened in previous campaigns but Matt is quite good at reminding the players of this stuff if their character would know it

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Don’t forget that this new party doesn’t have meta knowledge of things that have happened before

ruby quiver
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However, far more than C2 has, C3 has a lot more callbacks to both previous campaigns so it's got a lot more spoilers for them

frosty canopy
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C3 uses the events of c1 and c2 as foundation

knotty hill
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Ah.. so that's why Sam had left the show for a hot minute. Damn

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||Cancer|| is just beyond rough, but glad he's recovering well.

slow ice
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That was a rough video to watch, but I'm glad that he is okay sharing his story. Makes total sense that he took time away.

sonic dawn
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Let’s be honest, Critical role would never be the same without Sam, he’s such a integral part of the cast, he’s a true pillar to CR’s success

twilit grail
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Just saw that vid myself and goddamn does it hit close to home im glad he's okay

tall bison
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I just saw the announcement. Haven't watched the video, but damn. Glad he's doing better now

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I haven't even got to the episode where Sam stopped appearing, so my assumption based on knowing he was absent was just that FCG died

last flicker
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In hindsight it make a lot of sense why critical role did a unlimited so soon after Fresh cut grass’s death they where probably trying to help give Sam a bit more of extra time with his treatment in privacy

sonic dawn
knotty hill
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It is time for Downfall now 😄

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Now let’s see how many Bolos we have lol

paper dawn
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Downfall!!!

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What in the world is going on

knotty hill
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I think we’re seeing Predathos at work.

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All their names are getting voided after all

paper dawn
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So you could say… you need a thing to live?

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😏

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Quadruple Multiclass hol-ee

knotty hill
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Ayden is just MADness incarnate

paper dawn
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Stream keeps stammering for me and I keep missing things

knotty hill
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Wait.... is it him?

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Raven feathered warrior with a wolf companion

paper dawn
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Love the robots accent

knotty hill
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So, I guess we've got ourselves a nice little militia forming

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ASHA so weird.

paper dawn
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Right on the money Dyno

knotty hill
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I might’ve underestimated what was going on here. Here we have Aeor coming down to subjugate

paper dawn
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What the huh

knotty hill
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This is one hell of a Genasi

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Taliesin is doggy

paper dawn
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Are these people playing as Gods?

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There’s some chicanery afoot that I don’t yet understand

knotty hill
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Not sure just yet. Also, we’ve got demonic engines. Wonder how many miles to the bone devil? lol

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So, ASHA is a diurD lol

lunar sparrow
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These are betrayers. Full evil party. I’m here for the burn

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I’d be afraid of Laura… she’s always been really goody goody… her being evil is kinda terrifying

knotty hill
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I would not think Purvon would be hanging around any enemies of the Raven Queen. Though all Gods had it out for Aeor

lunar sparrow
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I have a feeling that that earth genyasi has something to do with Ashton’s backstory

paper dawn
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I’m thinking that the gods gave themselves mortal bodies

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Good lord they’re all playing prime deities born into mortal bodies

knotty hill
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Oh this is gonna be fun

knotty hill
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I'm trying to pin down who all is who. Only one I'm reasonably sure of is Laura is the Raven Queen

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I'm assuming Arcadia is Ioun.

paper dawn
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Milo is for sure Asmodeus

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The Emissary I think is here on behalf of the Wildmother

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I thought Ayden was the Dawnfather but his interaction with Milo makes me less sure

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The halfling could be the spider queen?

lunar sparrow
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Taliesen might be Correlon

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I don’t think asmodeus is among them … he was already here … his herald was already among them

knotty hill
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I've seen folks say that the Tortle is Torog and T'shar is Bane or Tiamat

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Apparently the binary on each of the cards translates out to their domain

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Now I wish I had gone and grabbed screenshots lol

paper dawn
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Trist is the moon weaver I think

knotty hill
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Oh found it them.

paper dawn
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Yeah Arcadia is Ioun

lunar sparrow
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I think the robot is Sehanine

knotty hill
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ASHA: Nature
SILAHA: Beauty
Trist: Mercy
The Emissary: Law
Ayden: Dawn
Emhira: Death

paper dawn
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Stormlord ain’t here

knotty hill
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So I think that Asha is Melora, Silaha is Corellon, Trist is Raei, The Emissary was supposed to be Erathis, Ayden is Pelor, and Emhira is the Raven Queen

paper dawn
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I don’t think Raei is here based on Milo’s joke. Plus, her name being Tryst, I think she’s the Moonweaver

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The Emissary seems more in line with the Wildmother, but she and Erathis are quite close

knotty hill
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They are in a relationship after all.

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Does Sehanine have any Mercy connotations.

paper dawn
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Umletta for sure spider queen

knotty hill
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100%

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Tortle is Torog, yep

paper dawn
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The turtle is torog

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Oop I’m wrong

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Aydens player just confirmed it

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I love that Ashley is her own first character’s god

knotty hill
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I like that moment there where Laura asks about the pre-history of the Gods... because she wasn't there.

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Ok, so I'm guessing that they're both the Gods, but not only the gods. Like Arcadia said earlier, it took a while for the brains to catch up.

lunar sparrow
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I know this is backstory but man this episode is so slow. Overacting just a SMIDGE

paper dawn
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Tshar could be the ruiner

knotty hill
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Gruumsh or Bane, yea.

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Is T'shar missing an eye?

paper dawn
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Not mentioned

knotty hill
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Pelor out here with these new testament vibes lol

paper dawn
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Peter Griffin: “ah ah he said it he said it!”

knotty hill
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ASHA(Melora?) can barely hide her detest for the Raven Queen

paper dawn
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Can’t wait for the four sided dive where they say who’s who

lunar sparrow
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OHOHOH

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ITS VECNA

knotty hill
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There is also CR cooldown show to watch

worn violet
lunar sparrow
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Tali would absolutely pull a Vecna

knotty hill
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But that behind the Beacon subscription

worn violet
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I don’t think Vecna’s around

paper dawn
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Vecna happens later

knotty hill
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Cannot be Vecna, because he's not a god yet.

worn violet
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Vecna only becomes a god during the climax of campaign 1

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Prior to, he’s a lich. A powerful one, but not a god.

paper dawn
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Man, what a concept for a mini arc!

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The gods take mortal form to conspire to the end of aeor

worn violet
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I think Matt made the right call handing it back off to Brennan too, after how incredibly Calamity went

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For the viewers at least, not the characters

knotty hill
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The gods of exandria incarnating in mortal forms was not what I was thinking Downfall would be lol

paper dawn
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I love how smug the betrayers are

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And snarky

worn violet
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I love finally getting to see the gods for who they are now, and not who they portray themselves as to the mortals they want to follow them

knotty hill
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Ayden/Pelor is the most notable one IMO.

lunar sparrow
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They could retconn it. He had captured several cities during the early calamity

knotty hill
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Because The Dawn Father ain't exactly the most chill of the primes.

paper dawn
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That’s why I’m unsure it’s him

worn violet
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I think this is the Dawnfather before being battlehardened

paper dawn
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Really different vibe from Ayden

worn violet
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I don’t trust any of them, but I think this is the Dawnfather before the war changed him

lunar sparrow
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Barbarian cleric paladin druid

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Definitely dawnfather

paper dawn
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I’m pretty sure Dawnfather was always a hardbutt. He was in the exuc vision

knotty hill
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I can see an arc happening wherein this is how we get to him giving Deanna a sunburn for questioning if he was worthy.

worn violet
knotty hill
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Idk that the battle with Tharizdun has happened yet either.

lunar sparrow
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Tali is Vecna… I’m almost certain. At the beginning he said he was hungry plus it’s such a Tali thing to do

worn violet
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You can’t trust a vision given to you by the god of lies

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Taliesin is almost certainly Melora imo

paper dawn
knotty hill
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ASHA is also literally a wolf.

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This isn't human lady who turns into wolf, this is Wolf turning into human lady

worn violet
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Also, anybody else getting this vibe that during the Calamity there’s a race of wolves that can turn into humanoids? Like a counter-werewolf?

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And that’s what Galdric is as well?

knotty hill
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Galdric is just a regular wolf, who was the partner to the champion of the Matron.

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I love how Brennan has brought Purvon in on both his EXU campaigns lol

worn violet
worn violet
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The character he’s just gonna keep bringing back from now on

paper dawn
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*Allura

worn violet
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Well, Allura was Matt’s personal PC. A little different, but not by much I suppose.

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Matt brings back Allura for himself. He brings back Essek for his players and the fans

lunar sparrow
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Are you guys sure they’re all primes and not Betrayers too?

knotty hill
worn violet
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Right. So not just a wolf

knotty hill
worn violet
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I think anybody who is a Betrayer is an NPC

knotty hill
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All of Brennan’s NPC people were betrayers in that last conversation. All the domains listed out for the PCs relate to the Primes.

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ASHA: Nature
SILAHA: Beauty
Trist: Mercy
The Emissary: Law
Ayden: Dawn
Emhira: Death

worn violet
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Speaking of, Asmodeus being a priest of the Dawnfather somehow feels so deliciously despicable

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Disguising himself as a man devoted to the Prime he hates the most

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I would’ve liked to have seen some of the gods that aren’t mentioned much. Like Sehanine

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Nice to see Corellon and Erathis (or at least her Emissary) to make their way into the ring tho

knotty hill
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My understanding is that they are not exactly the gods, since the gods went and incarnated in these bodies and had to live as these people here. If folks have played recent Assassin's Creeds here I'm feeling like they're how sages work in that story. Completely unique individuals who have the alternate identity of the gods running around the background in their heads.

worn violet
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They’re talking super openly about who their PCs are in the cooldown

knotty hill
worn violet
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Taliesin (regarding Asha seeing the Emissary): “I’m pissed!”
Brennan: “Listen. If I was expecting to see my wife somewhere and a giant made of ice and stone was there instead, I’d be pissed.”

knotty hill
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Yea, ASHA is demonstrating how Melora is red in tooth and claw.

paper dawn
knotty hill
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In all their cards that got shown for their introductions, you've got bits of binary after their names. Punch em into a translator and that's what spits out.

paper dawn
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Oooooo

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Fun

knotty hill
paper dawn
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Also, I think the gods consecuted themselves

knotty hill
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In Cooldown, Brennan calls them all Avatars here

worn violet
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Which is why their stats look so strong for seemingly “commoner” looking people

knotty hill
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Going into how while ASHA and SILAHA are in 100% lockstep with who their divine selves are.... Tryst and Ayden kinda don't.

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Raei and Pelor got really into RPing as people lol

worn violet
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Method acting to the divine level

knotty hill
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Also funny how the Raven Queen has gone full circle here. Humans > God > Human

worn violet
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They make a note about how sad it was that the first of the… “Tengarians?”… to step up to save their home instead of running away are the ones who are called the Betrayers

knotty hill
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The primes just froze in that moment

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Ok, so in the opening, Laura was playing the original god of death.

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And they bring up how hilarious it is that Ayden and Tryst are so paternal towards the mortals that they can’t even think of killing them, meanwhile Emhira spits back that she’s literally murdered one of them before.

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Give Aeor half a shot and there’ll be no gods above

pure ginkgo
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Am I the only 1 who thinks that SILAHA is Moradin\the all hammer?

hollow swallow
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Yeah Tengar seems to be some pre big bang planar state

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That was the birth of the universe

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The only person who ties in to a consistent reason that the gods would do this is Tal’s character

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The act of destroying a god seems to be like breaking gravity or the strong nuclear force

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You just unmake reality or critically destabilize it if you do so

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But, also, they caused this? The betrayers caused the calamity and now they’re buttmad that humans are like “to heck with this?”

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This is a kobiyashi maru scenario that humanity can’t win

lunar sparrow
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The wiki community seems to think Milo is Asmodeus, and Asha is the wildmother

sage furnace
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im so confused

knotty hill
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The translation of the binary codes on each character's card

sage furnace
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ah ok

knotty hill
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Basically our first clue as to which god each character is playing.

hollow swallow
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The creepy halfling is Lolth. The jacked up intentionally crippled tortle throwing up fishhooks is Tharzidun. The barbarian woman is Gruumsh

worn violet
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I know he's got the whole chain motif going on and Tharizdun is the Chained Oblivion, but Torog is the god of torture and enslavement, which was more of the vibe I got off of Zaharzht

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Especially considering Tharizdun is a madness that even the Betrayer Gods won't cooperate with.

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My personal theory is that Tharizdun is actually Edun, the elderly sounding Light from Tengar and the first to be turned to "nothingness" by Predathos, and that the name Tharizdun is actually translated from the Lights' language saying something along the lines of "That What Was Edun".

hollow swallow
hexed oyster
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Not related to the PCs or gods: When Brennan first mentioned the name of Hawk's Hill, did anyone else immediately wonder if it's named after Travis's character from EXU: Calamity??

worn violet
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Also worth remembering Cerrit was a ranger, which I think Brennan mentioned was the most prevalent job at this time and place due to the nature of surviving in an ongoing apocalyptic event.

low socket
knotty hill
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That’d be a cool way to follow up on him.

worn violet
low socket
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He’s got a bit of a ranger vibe

tall bison
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I finally reached the fight against Ottohan and FCG's death.

Holy SHIT. That was climactic as hell. I don't think I've ever seen Matt cry like that before.

ruby quiver
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Or yknow. It's just RoC

tall bison
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Based on what? How do they know how much HP she had to begin with?

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Ah

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Yes, absolutely, that was mandatory

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My perspective is they play the game for themselves first and the audience second. That it's both a game and a story and Matt as the DM does have the freedom to tweak aspects behind the scenes as he sees fit, so long as it's not manipulative/malicious/obvious/etc. If Ottohan truly did have merely 20HP left out of 600, I honestly don't feel like letting him have that kill is that offensive

That said, my one concern was I did think she would at some point try to grab the backpack back, though my guess is she knew it would take time for her to reattune to it and so it wasn't a priority

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It's a SICK weapon name

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Could also be a factor, but I still stand by what I said

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Also, I'm now on the next episode and it's so weird seeing Matt as a player. I know he's done it before, but I've never actually seen it

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Oh, really?

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What does she do?

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Ah

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Is this a common occurance or this batch of sessions specifically?

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Emily...

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The girl who played Prism?

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And Aimee was Deni$e, right? And now Opal?

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I noticed, so many comments were talking about how she just shows up and wrecks house in her first episode as a guest. Didn't know she or Aimee DMed, though?

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I dunno why. I thought it was fine

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Gotcha

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But yeah, I didn't know either of them were DMs

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Oh, you just said you would swap Aabria for Emily or Aimee, I assumed that meant as a DM

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I would be so curious how Emily would DM based on her performance as a player

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I've seen a LITTLE bit. I never watched past episode 2 of Candela Obscura, but I did take a brief glimpse at most of the first episodes to see how they started. And Liam literally started by having them roll for something saying "That's right, none of you have said a word yet and I am coming for you"

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And I saw a clip of him DMing a Critmas one-shot, but it was mostly focusing on Travis cutting Santa to shit

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Also, I don't watch D20. It looks interesting, I heard Brennan is an amazing DM as well. And I know Matt DMed a sort of prequel campaign for him at one point

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Yeah, I knew ahead of time that they were gonna swap the cast a bit because apparently it was meant to be a surprise EXU batch of episodes and I assumed Brennan would be the DM

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And Aabria would once again be playing Deanna, since I saw her in the thumbnail. I also assumed Aimee would still be playing Deni$e. Do you know what happened to her? I assume she died, but how?

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Oh, ok. Thought it would make sense that they reunited since that was her goal, to get back to Dariax

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Oh, really? How so?

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Is THAT what that's meant to be??

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I know it had something to do with some candy-esc world, but that was it

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I've also never seen Game of Thrones, but the idea of that style of world made of candy does sound whimsically disturbing

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Like medieval Willy Wonka

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Worlds beyond number?

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Oh, ok

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What do you think of Aabria when she's a player as opposed to a DM? Because as a player, I thought she was fine on CR

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Oh. Ok

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The only part I remember finding slightly annoying was when she killed one of the goats for no reason

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I insert various characters into this world as I watch, wondering how they would interact with the story and players, but there's one in particular who I tend to use and I remember when that part came up, I literally imagined my character being so pissed off that he took the remaining goats back up to Uthadurn and ditched the group mid-mission

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Partly because it would've been piled on top of the lingering stress from the failed mission at the Malius Key, losing half their party, and FRIDA stating an initial indifference to Ludinus' schemes due to his own indifference toward the gods

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I'm still not sure I understand as much about Aeor as I should

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Like all I really know about Aeor is that both FRIDA and FCG were from there, Ludinus gets a lot of tech from there, is probably there now (as of episode 92) and FRIDA was defending a Malius Key-esc device before his memories were wiped

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I'm sure they've said more up to this point, I just don't remember a lot of it

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Gotcha

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Also, I saw a clip involving Sam's new character that has me concerned

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I have no clue what the context is, but part of me isn't sure I want to know

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It was Sam's character flirting with Imogen and Imogen not shutting it down, causing Taliesin to go slackjawed and Marisha to leave the table

tall bison
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I'm relatively new to CR, them being at episode 30 in campaign 3 when I started and this being their first campaign I saw. Still the only one I'm remotely caught up in. So I never see why other people dislike it so much. I like the characters and the world a ton.

As for the shipping, in a D&D game, I would find it a problem if it was the audience shipping the characters. But them shipping themselves and establishing relationships between themselves, I have no problem with as long as everyone at the table is ok with it

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I've heard campaign 2 was their peak and I've started it, but it's such a huge undertaking to start a whole new campaign

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They seem pretty engaged to me

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Am I? I feel like it's possible I still won't be able to tell a difference

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Like I said, I did start campaign 2. I think I'm about 10ish episodes in? It seems similar so far

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Does Vox Machina the show start at episode 27 of the campaign?

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More than likely with Daggerheart if it's in the public release phase

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But yeah, I really like campaign 3. I love Matt's storytelling, I love how much fun the players have at the table, I love the set and budget, I love the characters and the callbacks to previous campaigns even if I don't understand them

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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they'll add more to it over time

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Never liked Star Wars

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But I get it

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Haven't seen Matrix 4, but I did see a review of it, so I think I get it

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I also haven't seen 2 or 3

low socket
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You don’t need to watch c1 and 2 to enjoy 3, and 3 is great it’s just a different group dynamic that some people don’t gel with

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For me it’s not because they are playing from a perspective that they don’t know what happened in the previous campaigns only 1 character has some knowledge of it and that’s orym

tall bison
tall bison
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What with Delilah and the tree

low socket
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Laudna doesn’t know that much about what happened in the campaigns though just that she was killed

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Not the point I was making

tall bison
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Question

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Aside from your thoughts on Aabria herself, is the story in this batch of episodes worth watching? Or would it be ideal to just skip to when Matt returns and Dorian rejoins Bell's Hells?

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I think right now my main problem is just that I know nothing about these new characters aside from Dorian and one of them's having a huge story moment encounter that I want to be invested in, but I just don't know what's going on while everyone else at the table does

low socket
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You can skip it not a lot really happens and it’s a lot of really detailed narrated combat rp

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The players can know but the characters don’t know, I’ve watched a few episodes of c1, c2 I’ve watched twice and all of the side stories and can enjoy c3 without knowing about the c1 NPCs

tall bison
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Gotcha

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I don't know what that means

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But yeah, I just skipped to episode 93, toward the end when Matt and Robbie are alone. Missed Cyrus' death

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I think I would be more invested if I actually followed EXU

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Like I never even saw the story Fearne, Orym, and Dorian had before they arrived at Jrusar

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So Calamity, then Downfall?

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Noted

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Thanks

inner current
polar falcon
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I'd actually say overall BH might be the least shippy when it comes to canon PC romance. C1 had all the female characters in love with Percy and ended with 3 canon romances, and c2 had everyone in love with Jester and ended with 2 canon romances (4 if you include PC/NPC), but c3 and BH doesn't really have a central 'everyone is in love with X' character (maybe kinda fearne?) and it looks like maybe only one canon PC romance? It hasn't ended yet though so maybe they'll end up or epilogue with more

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not to say thats a good or bad thing, I enjoy when the vibes are different in the different parties

pure ginkgo
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I personally LOVE Aabria as a player & candela GM but dislike her as a D&D DM

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And I personally believe that someone new to CR should hear out a variety of perspectives... and mine is that bells hells is a really good campaign while campaign 2 was the 1 that felt like they lost interest on the format, but all of them have their charms of course

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And CR is only as scripted as any entertainment company scheduling forces their media to be "scripted" in so that FCG, as admitted by Matt, would've shut down as Sam had to take his leave if they didn't die... which if you're one of those tables who doesn't approach D&D party "misscheduling" as ignoring the player character for the session(s) their player is going to be missing by finding some kind of explanation

ruby quiver
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Yea.... basically everything that people use as "proof" that CR is scripted are just... things I've had/seen happen in home games before

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The main thing is "players knowing stuff about what's going to happen to their characters beforehand" which is literally just. The DM and player talking out of game and planning where they want the character to go?

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So that people can get what they want out of it

low socket
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Matt is a very good planner and lets his players explore the world and their backstories if needs be. This comes from playing with the same group of people for 10+ years live and who knows how many before that in their home game

ruby quiver
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Literally the most normal thing to happen in a ttrpg

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And I don't know how you think I'm saying its kayfabed when I'm saying the opposite

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Again, most normal thing to happen in a game

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Average DM behavior

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Ok?

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It's still incredibly common

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Especially in dnd

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Can you rephrase that

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We already know it's pre recorded. Has been for a long time

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That's why I asked you to rephrase it

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Because your statement didn't make sense

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This statement did not make sense. Hence why I asked you to rephrase it so that I could understand what you were attempting to say

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I think it's almost entirely irrelevant to the people who enjoy the show

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I think the majority of people who would care are people who already think the show is scripted and dislike it because of that

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But that's literally an entirely separate discussion

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Nor one I particularly care to have with you

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No, I started a different discussion based off a comment from a different person. The question you asked me is the start of a completely different one. One that I don't have any interest in having with you. I'm dipping from this discussion now

low socket
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Matt has a plan and the players trust him to bring them on a great story and journey. It’s not scripted but has story beats he wants to follow

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Cr 2 had a totally different direction it should have gone in and the BBEG was planned something different to what we got.

eternal copper
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Even if it is scripted the story is still wonderful and I kind think it’s more like wrestling if anything they plan who is going to win the match but sometimes something goes sideways and changes it … matt has an idea of what he wants to happen but sometimes the roll of the die change it up a bit … it is a DM’s job for the party to have fun so that’s all he is doing is making sure his party is having fun … we just enjoy watching it

sage furnace
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TPK is total party kill?

low socket
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It’s not scripted it has planned story beats and the players for all their faults do a good ish job at keeping their players alive, yes Matt pulls his punches sometimes but he’s said many times he could of killed half the party if not for bad rolls

inland zealot
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They do a good job keeping themselves alive barring a few C1 instances lol, and that's not a bad thing at all. I do wish things felt more risky, but in fairness, c3 hasn't been my thing since episode 40-ish, so that may just be bias on my end.

worn violet
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Most DMs I know will do as much as they can to help their party succeed. Sometimes the dice wanna tell their own story though.

worn violet
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Except you forget that it’s often not just the important rolls that can make or break an encounter

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Hey, to each their own

low socket
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But the players say what they rolled? Do you want a camera on the dice as well?

worn violet
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I think if the cast thinks we’re not privy to that information then we just have to respect it. Not our business how they run their table.

tall bison
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They kinda already are, at least to the other surrounding players. The people sitting next to the roller can usually see what's being rolled. There's no real way to make all rolls from all players visible to the audience without a very clunky and intrusive recording setup or being so far away that either a lot more editing is required or you still can't really see what's being rolled due to distance. If it was just for the DM, maybe that could work, but for everyone at the table, it would become a mess real quick. Unless everyone switched over to digital dice, which honestly, is just much less satisfying than physical

polar falcon
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personally i feel no need to check their math, just happy to be along for the ride. That said stats sites like omen archive are an interesting glimpse into the averages

tall bison
paper dawn
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Downfall!!!

knotty hill
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Neat to see how Erathis decided to stay out. She cannot bend no break in what she is. Because her stability gives Exandria its lines

knotty hill
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Aw. Melora misses her wife, and had a present for her

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Corellon you little jerk! Starting up a cult in Aeor!

paper dawn
#

Slitch is my new favorite character

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“20 big bottles of booze!”
“1 bottle of booze.”
“Yay! :D”

knotty hill
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Slitch, friend of bing bong

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Angel vs god avatars

paper dawn
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Ooooo god art

knotty hill
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The Archeart beats

paper dawn
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They really shouldn’t leave the spider queen to her own devices lol

knotty hill
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Yea, Lolth's just dying to ruin this place

lunar sparrow
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“Amen” lol

knotty hill
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lvl 0 commoner 70HP

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Asmodeus is so lucky that this is Aiden and not Pelor.

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Funny how the two light domain gods were the ones to committ to this bit so damn hard they made whole new personas

polar falcon
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it feels like ayden represents an aspect of pelor that was lost or suppressed after this event

lunar sparrow
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This poor mage is about to be vaporized

paper dawn
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Hooo boy oh boy

lunar sparrow
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Asmodeus snaps his fingers
neck snaps

paper dawn
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Golden scythe!

knotty hill
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Hey, specific confirmation of the ruiner

polar falcon
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rebellious angel here, asmo come pick him up

knotty hill
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Ah yes, trying to off yourself before she whose domain is death.

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Smart

lunar sparrow
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So … odds that Aeor is destroyed because the gods collectively do it… or it’s destroyed because they all get in a fight and it was collateral damage?

knotty hill
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It's always been blamed on the gods, Aeor's fall. That here is where the gods united to strike down the city

knotty hill
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Ok that's cool. Enemy spellcraft, these 10,000 page essays honed over centuries.

"No"

paper dawn
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Ueletta is just in a speakeasy like “hey team? Hello??”

tranquil sparrow
#

Is critical role that campaign that got an animated show?

paper dawn
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Legend of Vox Machina, yeah

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It’s based on their first campaign

knotty hill
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Kirby

paper dawn
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I can’t get over how umletta was just full stop left behind 😂

polar falcon
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snuck off long ago TBF

paper dawn
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“Things are popping off without me???”

polar falcon
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she is a lolth avatar, right?

paper dawn
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Ye

lunar sparrow
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Holy

paper dawn
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Umletta: “WHAT DO YOU MEAN I MISSED THE WHOLE THING?!”

knotty hill
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Don't trust

paper dawn
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If she’s not either doing some shenanigans or is super salty about being left out then my immersion is broken because that is hella sibling energy of “why wasn’t I allowed to play too”

pure ginkgo
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And so I think Ayden bounces between believing that he's somehow the direct son of pelor and... well... pelor

knotty hill
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They talked about it on the first cooldown, this is somewhat the case. In some of the Avatars, it’s the case where the Avatar is part of the god, such as Asha and Silaha. For Trist and Ayden, it’s more like Raei and Pelor are parts of them.

polar falcon
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I should watch the cooldowns, i keep forgetting cause its so late for me when the stream ends ^_^;

foggy shadow
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I don't know if it is a spoiler but I can't stand watching full length episodes of critical role. My mind tunes it out no matter how loud it is. HOWEVER. I love Yasha/ Beau's relationship and I will watch compilations of them.

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One of my group members didn't like that they were queer, so I'm thinking my next character could be queer.

My last character, before he joined, was Ace.

sonic dawn
foggy shadow
buoyant echo
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Hey guys, ik this is probably old news to most people but I'm trying to watch campaign 2 but a huge amount of it is just gone from YouTube. Are there ways to still access it or can you just not watch campaign 2 anymore?

polar falcon
low socket
buoyant echo
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I found out the problem was the content settings on my YouTube account

tall bison
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I JUST found out the context behind the Sun Tree hanging

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And by extension, the context behind Laudna's backstory

knotty hill
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Kinda surprised that Laudna doesn’t have a weirder relationship with Vex

lunar sparrow
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How much weirder can it get? Resurrecting a Demi-Lich’s (who has personally tried to kill you and your whole family) phylactery essentially against your husband’s wishes out of guilt and remorse, even though she’ll most certainly come back to kill you, your husband, and lay waste to your city…. Again?

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Exactly how could that relationship get “weirder”?

worn violet
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Oh sweet, apparently Travis Willingham teased an animated Calamity miniseries

knotty hill
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Laudna could've ended up holding a grudge against her, both for how she was killed to threaten Vox Machina, as well as how by taking down the Briarwoods, Laudna didn't get the magical training she was hoping for from Delilah.

Plus there's the matter of how much the De Rolo's might genuinely want her quite dead, since she's propping up Delilah in her head.

copper minnow
worn violet
copper minnow
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yeah exactly. and the story is pretty straight forward and easy to adapt too

worn violet
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I had a suspicion they eventually would. Calamity seems pretty well-beloved in the fanbase

copper minnow
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I've yet to see someone say something negative about it.

ruby quiver
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Only "negative" thing I've seen is people saying it was railroaded/pre written. But it was also coming from people who think that CR in general is pre written so... yea.

worn violet
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Also likely coming from people who don’t understand that mini-arcs do kinda call for a bit of railroading, mixed with a whole lot of player buy-in.

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Like if you only have 4 sessions, you kinda wanna minimize wandering off on side quests and try to keep focus on the mission

copper minnow
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i mean its prequel, brennan had multiple ways in which the Calamity could be triggered set up and the players really couldnt stop it. it was always about the journey, not the destination and everyone understood that. I guess thats could be seen as railroading but I dont see it that way personally

worn violet
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Me neither. Or rather, it’s a little railroading, but I don’t think that’s an inherently bad thing.

low socket
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It’s a good explanation of what he does

worn violet
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Railroading is really only bad when paired with the removal or refusal to acknowledge player agency

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More like dangling the carrot

inland shell
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There's a subtle line between railroading and a storyline that is compelling/ urgent enough that it demands attention. "Railroading" IMO is mostly only an issue when, as @worn violet said, player urgency is forcibly removed.

reef granite
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where should i start out in campaign 1 if i’ve watched the legend of vox machina?

soft locust
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ufff like episode 56 or so

low socket
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24 is the briarwood arc

soft locust
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and 55 is then end of season 2

paper dawn
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Samuel

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Here we gooooooo

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I’m hearing that tonight’s game is SIX HOURS so I’m definitely not catching all of it lol

robust zealot
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Tonight's stream is six and a half freaking hours... my god...

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I'm definitely watching the restream tomorrow

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LOL

sage furnace
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oh wow

paper dawn
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That’s definitely what the emissary is for

robust zealot
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So I did some calculations... If the city dropped 80 feet on one side in a split second, fast enough to make everyone fall to their deaths, that means the other side lifted up at the same rate. That's somewhere between 25 and 50g's of force on everyone and everything on that side that lifted up 80 feet instantly.

paper dawn
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Every time I see the players freak out I giggle and want to be like, Mufasa voice, “remember who you are”

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Also oh my goodness gracious Cognouza!

paper dawn
paper dawn
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It begins

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The vibe in the room is the scene in iron giant where the fed goes,

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LAUNCH THE MISSILE NOW

polar falcon
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lol the double damage

paper dawn
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Copper? Model at least

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Iirc it’s a shadow dragon, but that’s a template

paper dawn
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20th level characters are tough lol

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Ohhhh brass dragon

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So there’s a third dragon somewhere

paper dawn
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Yup

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Called it

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What the heck happens if the party wipes

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Aeor does crash

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The weapon doesn’t fire

polar falcon
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paladin aura, as always, doing work here

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also ayden making a true tank damage absorption build work

knotty hill
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I am proud of this lawyer

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It does specify that creatures don't double up on damage hahaha

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Oh yea, this is meteor swarm. 40d6 damage

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OH YOU BEAUTIFUL GOD

polar falcon
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there are still 2 hours left

knotty hill
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Truly, the Archheart beats

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That is truly divine

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And um, Aiden became immortal.

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THE EMISSARY HAS NOW BECOME A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION

paper dawn
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OH MY G O D

knotty hill
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And yea, 4/7 divine wards are now gone.. Mortality is quickly becoming a suggestion

paper dawn
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I’m fully stealing these divinity rules for my campaign

knotty hill
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Reai... just HEAL

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Fair point.... Emissary be a construct

paper dawn
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Wait… they can do 9th level spells every turn

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They can just do meteor swarm again

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Casual 60 persuasion

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You could persuade a father to eat his son with numbers like that good lord

knotty hill
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Doesn't the 9th level have to be within a domain they grant?

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And 5/7 now

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The Emissary is the single most protected being in existence right now lol

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NAH, Just give the dragon its breath weapon back

polar falcon
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emissary feels like their failsafe, just not divine enough to avoid godkiller tricks and traps

knotty hill
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They're the only one not getting all this

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Please... please archmages of Aeor... I wish you'd make 38 DC

polar falcon
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now thats a dawnfather line

knotty hill
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6/7

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And they are now gods once more

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7/7 wards gone. Divinity has arrived in Aeor once more

paper dawn
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Asmodeus you scamp

knotty hill
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This truce only existed till Aeor was no longer a problem after all...

paper dawn
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God fight!

polar falcon
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classic sudden but inevitable betrayal

broken sand
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I just clicked on the broadcast thinking it was the rebroadcast

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Ate a bunch of spoilers

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Went to the still-being-uploaded VOD

polar falcon
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6.5 hours yea

knotty hill
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Oh yea... if they want to erase the weapon from existence.. there is only one way to ensure it is destroyed.

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🥹 The Emissary just wants to go back home now.

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Yea, she messed up bad. By giving that knowledge to everyone in Aeor, she guaranteed all their deaths.

knotty hill
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Given that the Bells Hells are witnessing all this. I can't wait to see how exactly this affects their views of the gods

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And this was the straw that broke them. Aeor would be the last time, and so the Divine Gate would be crafted.

paper dawn
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I really didn’t think I’d be able to stick around for the whole thing but it was just too gripping

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What a mini arc

quartz ibex
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Hello.

untold haven
pure ginkgo
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What's our theories on the classes the betrayer's mortals were? I think Zaharzst is order of the profane soul blood hunter, Umleta is a gloomstalker ranger, Gruummsh is path of the zealot barbarian and Asmodeus is trickery domain cleric

dire pewter
sage furnace
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Im thinking maybe one of them is a warlock

worn violet
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They took their divine forms before they could really utilize their mortal forms' subclass features.

knotty hill
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Oh gods damn, Blade of Disaster from Delilah.

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Spiritual weapon's older sibling

untold rampart
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Luckily there's enough healing in the party that they should be able to out-action economy her

paper dawn
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It’d be kinda hilarious if ludanis was like “join me” but then immediately after Delila kills them all

untold rampart
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Yeah, rough encounter to have after all the previous encounters. I thought it was just gonna be a character moment but its a full on boss battle

knotty hill
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.... I kinda want that armor for my monk

paper dawn
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Did they die I tapped out like an hour ago

knotty hill
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Nah

tulip cedar
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how should i first get in to CR

dreamy lily
knotty hill
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Bell's Hells lvl 14 roundup.

  • Ashton Barb 14: New Path feature
  • Orym Fighter 14: ASI
  • Imogen Sorc 14: Revelation in Flesh (We bout to see some body horror from her)
  • Fearne rogue 4: ASI
  • Dorian Bard 14: Magical Secrets and Master's Flourish (Unlimited flourish options but only with a D6)
  • Laudna waiting till after current ritual. Either Sorc 11 (6th level spellslot) or Warlock 4 (New cantrip/spell)
  • Chetney Blood Hunter 13: Brand of Tether (You leave when I say you can) and more Blood maledict uses
knotty hill
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And Delilah is in a jar now

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Oh gods.....

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NOTT!
JESTER!
YOU JERKS HAAHAHA

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Please let Jester appear this episode

knotty hill
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Yep, Revelation in Flesh be so fun

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GROG

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I think that Scanlan's now the only one who hasn't shown up yet

polar falcon
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only in a poster at that random theater in jrusar

keen sable
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Is the first echo knight in the 3rd critical role campaign?

pure ginkgo
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I believe the mighty nein have fought an echo knight in sewers of Zadash in episode 9? but if you're talking about a major character being an echo knight then technincally no otohan is a psi warrior

quartz solstice
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They fought one after following the worm tunnel to Xorhas no?

silver pawn
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is CR going live tn?

candid epoch
low socket
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I believe otohan was a weird mix of psi and echo she had echos when they fought her the first time

knotty hill
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She basically had a backpack that gave her all the Echo knight abilities ontop of her own

paper dawn
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I wonder if the memory of the infinite hungry emptiness of Praedathos is enough of a fragment to satisfy Orym’s pact with Nanna Mori

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Wait, was that Chetney’s pact or Orym’s

knotty hill
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Chet's. Orym is bound for service to Nanna. Which he agreed to because he doesn't feel like he's surviving this

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Oh gods.... they're still on the whole "Oh, maybe we should just let Ludinus unleash the God eater."

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Yea, learning about how pre-gods, everything just cycles around.. idk how to feel about just instantly getting deleted and repurposed into several rocks or so.

With the Gods, there is that continuance.

knotty hill
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Hahaha, yea Ashton is absolutely gonna get yoinked by Xhorhas in the future lol

olive orchid
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Blast from the past but i just finished the Pit Fiend fight in Campaign 1 Episode 76 in the Plane of Fire. I didn't count the HP on the Pit Fiend but did Matt make it easier on them given how the fight was going ? Or was i just thrown off because He didn't give us any of the usual "X is starting to look rough" for the Pit Fiend ? It was just dead all of a sudden.

queen sun
olive orchid
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Yeah it was not easy going as it progressed but the very end felt like it came out of the blue so i wondered whether Matt reduced the remaining HP behind the scenes to spare them.

paper dawn
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What titles!

paper dawn
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This is wonderful

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WE FOUND THE LIMIT

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“This is getting too weird” -Talisen Jaffe

torpid quiver
ruby quiver
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Campaign 1 doesn't start when the party first meets

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Before it was a stream it was a home game, so they had done stuff before that they reference

dark sentinel
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if you need a quick summary of the pre-game stuff i can do so for you

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just ping me

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actually, this one paragraph summary from the wiki probably gives you all you need:

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The team met in the swamp town of Stilben as a ragtag group of mercenaries in search of work. After doing a few odd jobs they traveled to the city of Emon, where they managed to halt a demonic insurrection within the throne, and gained a reputation as heroes and had a keep built in their honor.

torpid quiver
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Thank you both so much! I was wondering if that was the case, especially since the audio quality is not the best 😂 Seems like just a group a friends recording for fun so far

dark sentinel
copper minnow
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yeah you will notice huge improvements on quality in the first 30 or so episodes

pure ginkgo
red epoch
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I put every curse on wennan wee wulligan for making me feel so bad during the last episode of EXU:Calamity

worn violet
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Gosh, Calamity is so good

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Downfall was pretty great too

knotty hill
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Watching the apocalypse take place really was a sight

low pawn
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I want to watch critical role but it's too long, any condensed versions?

dreamy lily
low pawn
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alright I'll check them out

worldly stag
# low pawn alright I'll check them out

As above Legend of Vox Machina is great and shows a bit of pre stream and it’s a good introduction into Exandria. But if you want on stream stuff then I can recommend Exandria Unlimited, EXU:Calamity and EXU:Kymal is really good!

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But if you want the OG cast then Search for Grog or Search for Bob are kind of stand alone one shots.

polar falcon
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I wish they had continued the animated recaps in C3 but I think they only did one before probably deciding to switch to the abridged episodes format 😔

knotty hill
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Nana Morri is always so unnerving

paper dawn
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Love it when the horrifying monster is a party ally

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Such fun as a DM

paper dawn
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They totally have no plan whatsoever smh

knotty hill
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Winging it always works out well lol

knotty hill
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Best of luck to the Hells here lol

paper dawn
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Oh no they think they’re fighting them

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The goal isn’t to kill them here, just make them hate each other! (Without blowing momogen’s cover)

paper dawn
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Well they just failed their whole mission because they wanted to make it a fight

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I said it last time, if they enter initiative they’ve failed

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If the message gets out, then that’s that

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The point wasn’t to kill the simulacrum or sorrow lord today

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It was to sour the relationship between vanguard and Unseelie

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Which they almost managed 🤦‍♂️

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Oh

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Well that’s helpful

paper dawn
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Mixed success

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Unseelie help kill luddy, then kill the Unseelie after

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…and they threw away their advantage

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🤦‍♂️

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Just bloody go with it until the time comes to double cross after luddy is dead you imbeciles

knotty hill
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Yea, they just cannot leave well enough alone

paper dawn
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I’ve actively tried to get invested into this campaign like, three or four times and they keep irritating me

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Critical Role peaked with C2, I’ll just say it

knotty hill
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They’ve got the backbone of an eclair with any decision they make lol

knotty hill
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These people would argue the morality of Vecna’s ascension back in c1

paper dawn
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There are times when I wish I was a guest player in C3, so that I could after they pull Zathuda out of danger to slit his throat and the emissary’s throat then when the rest of them are like “omg why’d you do that” to just confront them with in character aggression and be like “No more half measures! I choose the Gods, because the only other choice is Praedathos!”

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Then they’d make noncommittal noises about the eidolons and whatever and my character would be like “It doesn’t matter! There is no middle ground here that you can stand on! The Gods being imperfect doesn’t mean that they deserve to be killed, and any action that isn’t directed towards preventing that is abetting it.”

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“If you do not support saving the Gods with your whole chest, you are my enemy.”

knotty hill
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Don’t even have a Jester here to force them onto a path there

knotty hill
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Please dice. Kill him!

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GOD HAS ENTERED THE ROOM

knotty hill
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Yea, I'm not sure I trust Archheart here, because even presuming that Predathos could be tamed, that wouldn't make the gods run. Because it's been tamed.

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Why would the Gods have to leave if they're entirely safe. If their predator now lives on leash.

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Not to mention, how could they leave? Their ship was destroyed.

buoyant meadow
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Without any spoilers, I’m not even reading a single message before me, is Critical Role worth it to get into at this point? Ive listened to Dimension20 and am honestly in love with Brennan Lee Mulligan, but I never jumped on the Critical Role train. Is it too late?

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Ping me if you don’t mind!

odd crescent
buoyant meadow
odd crescent
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you don't have to start with campaign 1 or 2 even! just pick one and start watching it! There's callbacks sometimes, but you don't need to watch the previous series to enjoy the later ones.

buoyant meadow
odd crescent
odd crescent
buoyant meadow
odd crescent
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if you start with campaign 1, you may not enjoy it as much because the quality that most people expect from CP is much, much lower than the later ones

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so a fair warning there

buoyant meadow
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Eh, I listen to Stumpt, their production quality isn’t much better than a group of friends on a couch with mics, it won’t bother me.

odd crescent
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If you really just want to know the story of the 1st campaign, I recommend watching "The Legend of Vox Machina" animated series on amazon as it goes over their most important arcs

odd crescent
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just never read the comments section

buoyant meadow
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Alright, well, I think you’ve convinced me!

odd crescent
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usually a lot of spoilers down there

odd crescent
buoyant meadow
odd crescent
paper dawn
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The lack of chatter about the show tonight tells me that I’m probably not missing anything important by skipping this week lol

knotty hill
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Send help... they're puppydogging Predathos

knotty hill
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Pet fey dragon time, woohoo!

paper dawn
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Uhhhh, the vod is already on YouTube

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That’s probably not supposed to be there lol

knotty hill
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Oops

queen sun
# buoyant meadow Without any spoilers, I’m not even reading a single message before me, is Critic...

I am absolutely a Campaign 1 stan.

People rag on it in hindsight, but in its moment, it was revolutionary. I got shown Ep. 69 after it went on YouTube in November (yes, that's why I remember it) and wanted to know what happened to get them to that point so bad, I binge listened during my overnight job and was caught up before Christmas.

As long as you're aware that obviously problematic player does find their way off the show, they become merely a tolerable wart of the first 26 episodes. It's sad because, when he's together, he's an asset. The unglued points makes everyone a little off, but the vibes come back.

And you can fast forward past the points that are obvious old-school Twitch stream vibes.

Enjoy your watch (I hope)!

honest osprey
#

The entirety of Vox Machina is OFFICIALLY FREE to watch on YouTube, up to the end of Season 2.
Official on the Amazon Prime YouTube channel.

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EVERYTHING. FREE. OFFICIAL.
You now have no excuse* not to watch the animated series.
-# *Other than time, of course.

honest osprey
pure ginkgo
honest osprey
hard palm
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Because I haven't seen it yet xD

honest osprey
slim carbon
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So like, is critical role ran by WoTC or something? I’ve never watched it but it seems like it’s an “official” dnd campaign ran by the dnd people themselves or something

copper minnow
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nah

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its just bunch of voice actors streaming their dnd campaigns

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their success lead to some colaborations, like DDB sponsorships and I think a D&D designer had a guest spot once or twice. And of course they got one of their books published by wotc, but their game and company remain independant

ruby quiver
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Speaking of their company. Season 3 of LoVM airs Thursday

copper minnow
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cant wait

hard palm
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Don't forget! Till tomorrow you can watch the first 2 seasons of Vox Machina for free on Youtube

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I might binge them again today just because

slim carbon
copper minnow
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yeah

hard palm
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huh didn't think they run the season 3 premiere on youtube

low socket
ruby quiver
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Lovm s3 ep2 spoiler ||xerxes namedrop!||

wise lily
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The season 3 premier episode is awesome.

ruby quiver
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||the homage character to Tiberius was... interesting. Can't convince me Dohla wasn't meant to be that in at least some capacity||

worn violet
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LoVM S3E2 ||Holy J’mon sa Ord!!||

copper minnow
ruby quiver
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||if her backstory wasn't literally a plot point pulled directly from Tiberius I would agree||

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||that was a whole thing with him. That he was kind of obsessed with Allura. So much so that Orion commissioned fanart of the two of them... together||

copper minnow
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||but wasnt this version obsessed with Kima?||

ruby quiver
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||no. That's why Kima was afraid of seeing her again. Dohla had a massive crush on Allura, so Kima figured she would be mad now that she (Kima) and Allura were together||

copper minnow
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i need to rewatch that, because I remember it the other way around

ruby quiver
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there was a short lil convo about it

copper minnow
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yeah I know, just heard it the other way around apparently

ruby quiver
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You might be right, would have to go back and check

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I might have thought I heard what I was saying because of the vibe I was getting before she even showed up

copper minnow
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||okay i just rewatched it and Kima askes Dohla about the time she had a crush on her.||

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the campfire scene

ruby quiver
ruby quiver
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Idk, the vibes just felt like that's where she came from to me

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Even if it's not meant to be a direct 1:1

copper minnow
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its possible but I dont think they would be petty like that on purpose

ruby quiver
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I don't think it would've been them being petty tbh

More like an homage in an attempt to not write off the existence entirely? Kinda like how they played it in the actual campaign

copper minnow
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but in the campaign, he died a hero, no?

ruby quiver
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Yea

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Moreso just meant in the vein of homage

copper minnow
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making ||the only draconian we interact with a tiberius stand in, and then have them betray the party because of spurned love|| would qualify as petty to me

knotty hill
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Yea, idk if they all still keep in touch. Would definitely be very crass, especially with how that story got handled in the actual campaign.

knotty hill
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Hey! Betrand's fling is here 😄

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Blood swimming time 🙂

knotty hill
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Neat. Sam's using new core stuff

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Spider Opal

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Oh wow, Drider Opal even

willow ferry
knotty hill
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How should I know?

trim copper
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Lmao the objection in ep 2 of LoVM

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Gotta love easter eggs

knotty hill
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Ok then, so it looks like the Divine Gate cannot be undone by anything less than the full cooperation of all the gods who created it.

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OH

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So, Raven Queen fell in love with the former god of death, and together they crafted the rite of ascension so that the god of death could finally end.

willow ferry
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Huh?

polar falcon
#

RQ lore was pretty cool last ep

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she was the most clear and real with BH than any of the gods, which makes sense given she was once a mortal herself

quick jackal
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im on s2e23 rn, but im wondering about something from episodes 1-4, why did Kylre kidnap Toya? i never understood what her singing had to do with it

plush frost
#

Hello!

pure ginkgo
quasi wagon
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hey guys do we know anything about the next episodes of s3?

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like do they have a release schedule or smth?

knotty hill
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It's a weekly drop. So next back of three should be on thursday

trim copper
worn violet
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Yeah, I was under the impression that it was a 3 episode season premiere, then weekly from that point on. That’s how Amazon does pretty much all their other shows’ seasons.

polar falcon
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s2 was 3 episodes a week iirc

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I know s1 was to fulfil the kickstarter promise of it being free to watch, so folks could get the free month trial and still watch the whole season

soft locust
#

omg the references on episode 4 of season 3

ruby quiver
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Good batch of episodes

soft locust
#

indeed 🍷

paper dawn
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The calamity series references had my jaw on the floor

paper dawn
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Also, Scanlan leaving to go see Kayle wasn’t Bards Lament was it?

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Cuz it wasn’t nearly sad enough

robust zealot
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I just saw episodes 4 and 5 before this. This season has been amazing already

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I'm loving the tie ins and references to the other series's

knotty hill
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FINALLY.

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Bells Hells and the Mighty Nein meet. And the players have control over them all

spice pilot
#

how did i forget to watch the new 3 episodes?! gonna do that now

late pollen
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They were really good

copper minnow
#

soo does anyone think they gonna adapt ||Arkhan the cruel and his role in the finale|| of the campaign for the show?

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my guess they might wanna steer clear of tiamat

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and multiverse connections in general

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i mean this is all season 5 stuff so who knows

trim copper
ruby quiver
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It doesn't really affect the story much either to do so

soft locust
knotty hill
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Oh gods… we were not prepared for this batch of Vox Machina episodes.

hexed tartan
soft locust
copper minnow
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yeah I had to take a break after episode 8

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rough stuff

copper minnow
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though I can see cutting him if they dont figure out a good way to adapt him

soft locust
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sensational its the only word I can express r8 now

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Also ty Troy Baker for being the best voice actor for an serious old elf with many MANY family issues twice

paper dawn
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I’m on ep.8 right now, surely ||percy doesn’t stay dead right? I thought that in the main game they did a revival pretty immediately||

copper minnow
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i doubt it, maybe vox machina find out that ||orthox has his soul or something and that leads to rescue and an opportunity of revival||

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but thats speculation

last flicker
paper dawn
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||oh shit Kashaw||

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That’s definitely a divergence

raw schooner
#

I'm watching C2E2 and I'm kinda lost I don't understand what's happening lol can anyone tell me where they are rn at 1:55:00

ruby quiver
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Oof the LovM episodes

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||Kash seems like he may still come back in some capacity.||

raw schooner
#

what

polar falcon
#

(tlovm 7-9 spoilers) ||I got the feeling Percy's revival might hinge on Pike figuring out her god stuff? Like receiving a revelation or miracle that would allow her to bring him back cause nobody seems to think that's possible right now. Also with her blood having healing properties, I had the thought she might be a blood descendant of the Everlight herself a la downfall||

ruby quiver
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Honestly that last bit was always sort of hinted at even in the actual stuff surrounding the campaign

worn violet
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Just finished Ep 7 but ||tbh the blood she smeared on the rest of the party's foreheads reminded me of the glow from when she stamped her blood on Zerxus's contract. Considering they had to fill so much of Pike's story with original stuff due to Ashley's absence from the stream, it makes me wonder if they're toying with the idea of Pike considering a pact with Zerxus before restoring her faith in the Everlight.||

worn violet
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Also ep 8 ||Thordak already sounds kinda different in this episode. Makes me wonder if this is around the time someone else had to take over for Lance Reddick...||

robust zealot
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Oh god... Two groups into one... What a mess, and it's only like 5 minutes in...

robust zealot
polar falcon
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matt is enjoying not having to do anything so much, everyone talk amongst yourselves 2x 😆

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(watching beacon so only like an hour in)

polar falcon
wise lily
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||Wish for Percy and Scanlan’s return. None of them are supposed to die after killing Thordak. Unless the animation storyline is different from the original version. ||

mortal hedge
worn violet
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Gotcha

robust zealot
robust zealot
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Also, in case people didn't realize, BH is now level 15:
Fearne: +1 Rogue Level: +3 HP, +uncanny Dodge
Braius: +1 Paladin Level: +2 HP, Unknown ASI/Feat Choice
Imogen: +1 Sorcerer Level: +3 HP, Level 8 Spells and spell slot
Dorien: +1 Bard Level: +7 HP, D12 Bardic Inspiration, 8th level spell slot and spells
Orim: +1 Fighter Level: +2 HP, Relentless Feature
Laudna: +1 Sorcerer Level: +2 HP, Unknown ASI/Feat Choice
Ashton: +1 ~~Wizard ~~Barbarian Level: +8 HP, Persistent Rage Feature
Chetney: +1 Blood Hunter Level: +6 HP, Brand of the Voracious feature.

late pollen
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I was not ready for that episode.

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My feels.

robust zealot
# late pollen My feels.

Absolutely devestated. I knew it was coming just by the episode title, and from the story of the first campaign, but at the same time... No way was I ready for that. My roommate saw it for the first time and was having to hold back tears. 😦

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Unless you were talking about last night's BH episode, in which case, best filler episode ever. LOL

late pollen
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It was 7

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Haven't seen 8 and 9 yet. Tbh I don't remember the campaign that well. My memory sucks

willow ferry
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The cast is playing as both their Campaign 2 and 3 characters? That's going to be a pain to keep track of.

polar falcon
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not in combat it looks like, but they did surprisingly well in just RP

copper minnow
#

the fan was a pretty smart idea from Marisha

slim tapir
#

The last three episodes of Vox Machina / Critical Role is absolutely insane😯

late pollen
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Earthbreaker Groon is officially my favorite character now.

trim copper
reef granite
trim copper
wise lily
worn violet
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I notice that a lot of the ||deaths are revolving around the idea that the party cleric is currently in a position where she can’t revive people. Now that she’s learning to have faith in herself and not the Everlight, I wouldn’t doubt it if she’s now able to bring Percy back.||

soft locust
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Yeah but the only problem is ||Only Sam had a backup character with Darrington while Talie didn't have one, well he had but it was the paladin that came before Percy so I doubt||

worn violet
honest osprey
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The Legends of Vox Machina was renewed for Season 4! YIPPEEEEEEE

copper minnow
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well they made some interesting choices at the end, wonder if Season 4 will be a **major **departure overall from C1

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like, it seems like ||bards lament and the time skip are going to be combined? are they gonna skip over tary||? do they even have enough story for 2 seasons without him? or are they gonna aim for only a single season and if they get picked up for S5, they gonna do something like the search for grog, wedding etc?

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also apparently they arent giving ||Percy Cabal's Ruin||?

knotty hill
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||Might be part of a time skip power up||

copper minnow
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could be, true

ruby quiver
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||really fun depiction for scrying||

soft locust
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OMG THAT POST CREDIT

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the foreshadowing!!!! AAAAAAHHHH!!!

honest osprey
copper minnow
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not literally post credit, right?

honest osprey
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One year later.

reef granite
honest osprey
willow ferry
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There was a time skip in-universe.

ruby quiver
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must've missed that screen, didn't see it

reef granite
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anyways have i said how good this show is

polar falcon
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aww i love that they did a rewind for the VM portion so we got more time with them

wise lily
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I totally love the way they did with Percy storyline.

robust zealot
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Just got done with s3 for tlovm. Wow. Just.. wow. This season was amazing, the highs, the lows, all of it. See y'all in 2027 for s4!!!

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(or whenever it comes out, haha)

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Also, I only saw some artwork from last night, but one question remains... ||Why is scanlan a freaking horse?!?!?!||

last flicker