#critical-role-spoilers

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knotty hill
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Vecna empowers Delilah who empowers Laudna.

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Nah Imogen. Vecna’s no less a god than Pelor or Ioun. And the problem with wanting to rely on the gods in that way… the divine gate.

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Delilah is on your side of the wall. The gods are on the other.

robust zealot
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Imogen is... "a child of the god eater"? How does delilah know all this?

paper dawn
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She knows everything Laudna knows

knotty hill
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The Ruidusborn are not a new thing to the world.

robust zealot
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Oh. I didn't connect the two phrases

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Got it

knotty hill
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And yea, as Head said, she’s been behind Laudna’s eyes forever

robust zealot
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"We can fix this"... yea...about that.... it's hard to know whether or not delilah was telling the truth, or even some extent of the truth.

knotty hill
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Let’s do terrible and beautiful things

knotty hill
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I'd be surprised if Matt doesn't find a way to work in Spelljammers here

knotty hill
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Melting down the Ashton tonight!

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CONTINUE THE SMELTING PROCESS

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Taking it off mid-spell probably is going to kill them outright. The process is trying to do something to them, and being halfway between what they were and what they will be probably is fatal.

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Taliesin just isn't allowed to keep his first character in a campaign lol

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Ashton ain't gonna be a rock person anymore after this in any way hahaha

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The wrath of a titan is being infused into Ashton. The might of beings whose deaths formed entire planes of reality.

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And now Ashton needs new artwork again!

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"Hey, don't put two titan hearts in 1 person!"
But what if we did?

paper dawn
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Oh shoot I tapped out at the break, is everyone still alive?

hexed patio
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Yes they are.

knotty hill
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Ashton has a lava arm now

paper dawn
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Oooooo

daring needle
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does liam ever stop promoting Wormwood Gaming's boxes

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i am loving it so far but it's been 50 episodes and they're still going

knotty hill
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They are a sponsor and all

daring needle
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yeah but are they still a sponsor to this day?

knotty hill
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Yes, not for every episode, but still.

daring needle
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Stonejaw Strongjaw being Grog’s father is some funny business for sure man

knotty hill
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Jawjaw

robust zealot
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Just got caught up with the latest episode... What the actual heck was that last hour....

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Summary of that episode: "LET'S PLAY ROLLIES FOR LIFE OR DEATH CONSEQUENCES"

knotty hill
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And now Ashton's rocking the force of the last two titans of exandria. And just after they got the artwork done, we need new Ashton art

steel siren
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One more hour and we get to listen to the party lose their minds on Ash

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I'm not looking forward to the beat down he's going to get but I'm dying to find out how the mechanics of this work. For all we know, he could still die, right? I mean...what if his lifespan was just seriously shortened because of this? Aghhhh

paper dawn
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Aw, no Liam tonight

knotty hill
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Now, do we have emergency new artwork for Ash? lol

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They just got their coat!

steel siren
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Oh no, we need Liam for all this juicy drama grabs popcorn from microwave

knotty hill
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Yea, this potentially warrants a light dragging of Fearne here, because Ashton exploded. Now, let's see if they live

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Ashton ain't got much health lol

steel siren
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Is this outburst from Fearne Ashley's way of avoiding the dragging from the group? Lol

robust zealot
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Oh Fearne's a bit irked. Lol.

steel siren
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She agreed to this lol

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That low int coming through

daring needle
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ahahaha you modern watchers
being me, i am still on campaign 1, so i can watch every night and i only have to miss out on ashley cause she is filming Blindspot at the time

steel siren
robust zealot
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Lol

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Spoilers: there are many many many amazing moments to come. 😁😁😁

steel siren
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^ and a lil cringe, a lil frustration lol

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All worth it

robust zealot
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Yea. What episode are you on season 1?

knotty hill
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And it was
all
for

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NOTHING

paper dawn
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I don’t like that

steel siren
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Wait what was the perk? The arm?!

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Get out...

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Of course Laudna is gonna make this about her lol

paper dawn
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Their reactions all seem extremely over reactive, and also the absence of Orym is clearly making the party fracture

knotty hill
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Everyone's definitely on edge because Ashton nearly killed themselves, for basically no reason at all.

robust zealot
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I mean, they also held this little ceremony on the freaking ziggurat, so that's error #1

steel siren
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Why would this warrant his death? They can be mad at him but to want him to die? Wtf lol

knotty hill
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It's Delilah's influence. As of last episode, we're a bit more closer to her

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This was a "betrayal". And she does not take that well.

steel siren
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Idk if I'd call it a betrayal.

robust zealot
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I mean, it's someone trying to take the shard out of nowhere, so.... kinda is

knotty hill
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I hope that when they try to ignite the shard in Ashton again, that they get back their 2 con.

steel siren
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I think it was perfectly in character. Fearne was scared. Ashton wants to be a hero. He thought he could handle it so no one else would have to.

robust zealot
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"Hey guys, what if we try again? Just to make sure!"

Matt: "I need everyone to roll for initiative" as the party tries to kill Ashton

steel siren
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Young, brave, stupid. Makes sense to me lol

robust zealot
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Fcg seems to be a bit irked as well.

paper dawn
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They’re all too in their own heads. It’s been an issue this whole campaign but it’s showing itself much more the later we get. Ashton did the right thing, trying to become more powerful in order to kill Ludinus. That is the only thing that matters right now. Become more powerful without harming people (aka not allying with Delilah).

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They’re too focused on the whys and not enough on the “get this done”

steel siren
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Agreed

paper dawn
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Ashton holding two primordials in his chest would be an amazing benefit

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It failed. Boo-womp. Now try Fearne after everyone has rested

steel siren
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Damnit Ashton, do a better job defending yourself!

knotty hill
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The problem is that now they have to get rested. They have to get Ashton recovered. All their plans just got hit with a big pause.

paper dawn
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FCG constantly asking why everyone is doing this misses the point. It doesn’t matter why. All that matters is that it gets done

steel siren
steel siren
knotty hill
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That Ashton and Fearne went off to do something that everyone told them was going to result in someone dying without anyone else's input? Those two unilaterally just made this call.

steel siren
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Yeah, roast Fearne! Now that she all mad, no one is going to tho. She's just as responsible as far as I'm concerned

daring needle
robust zealot
knotty hill
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Honestly, this is the part where I'd say we should get Pike to cast HEAL on Ashton. Limited timeframe and all.

steel siren
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All them spell slots tho

daring needle
knotty hill
steel siren
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Not her slots. The ones bells hells used

knotty hill
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😅 This'll just enforce that the moon expedition is purely for sight-seeing. Just get info and staff TP out.

daring needle
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wait hold on

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pike is in campaign 3???

knotty hill
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She operates the Slayer's Cake bakery here in Whitestone 😄

daring needle
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oh i love that

knotty hill
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Honestly, the only VM folks we haven't seen in this campaign are Grog and Scanlan.

daring needle
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that’s so cool

paper dawn
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Spoilers

daring needle
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ah no worries, i’m not getting to there for like forever anyways

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i’ve got 100 more episodes of campaign one alone

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plus campaign 2

steel siren
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I mean, it's a spoiler channel :p

daring needle
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yeah exactly lol

robust zealot
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Where is Fearne at?

paper dawn
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Raven Queen temple

robust zealot
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Ah.

crude sonnet
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Where’s Liam?

steel siren
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Absent unfortunately. Would have loved to have him here to diffuse the earlier tension.

knotty hill
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There is going to be a very angry bear sleeping on Chetney's chest when he awakens tomorrow.

paper dawn
steel siren
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Him and Chet, weirdly. They've mentioned this on a 4 sided dive and I never really noticed before. Orym is the heart but Chet is the person they confide in.

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He's got that sage old people advice lol

knotty hill
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Aw. We're making a little dolly 😄

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OK MAYBE NOT THAT THIRD OPTION

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No give the shard of a titan to Delilah.

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Yea. Can we get some buddies to come round the corner soon 😰

robust zealot
pure ginkgo
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I'm a little late for this but 🤞 manifesting Imogen becoming this campaign's paladin multiclass with perhaps a homebrew subclass themed around love ❤️ 🤞

steel siren
robust zealot
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I've forgotten her actual name right now, lol

knotty hill
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Morrigan.

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Or Nana Morri as Fearne calls her 😄

robust zealot
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Yea, I'd love it if Fearne got her as a patron of some kind.

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Maybe had Nana Morri incorporate Mister into the imp familiar and have some kind of combination of the two in one loveable familiar. Maybe it's the regular familiar that when Fearne channels her power into him, he gets access to the fire spirit powers and bonuses

knotty hill
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That’d be a weird multiclass, because she’s a Wisdom caster already.

robust zealot
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Bah, forget if we should, embrace if we could! Lol

static isle
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So...I just saw this comment on Tiktok 🤣. "Next one-shot : Jester and Fjord's wedding, interrupted by... The Hag"

polar falcon
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better be a strong hag TashaLOL

static isle
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I think she's plenty strong... and mad that she got outsmarted cuz that modify memory spell has to have disappeared by now

polar falcon
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just sayin if they remain lvl 20... probably gonna need to bring the whole coven

static isle
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Ok so that's true. We shall see.

daring needle
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VAX IS A PALADIN NOW???

knotty hill
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😄 Yep

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Rogue/Paladin time

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Wait till you see him crit/SMITE/sneak attack a poor unfortunate victim....

daring needle
robust zealot
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Tide and bone time 🙂 🙂 🙂

polar falcon
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watching the charity one-shot now...

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dndLove bobby socks

thorny fjord
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hello guys i would like to get into critical role, any suggestions on what season i should start with first? dndLove

low socket
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Campaign 2

paper dawn
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Oh letters

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Still obsessed with “why’s”

paper dawn
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This is why the bells hells NEED orym

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He’s the glue and the direction

knotty hill
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Don't let the Archfey consume the fragment of a Titan.

robust zealot
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Oh god... that's... that's terrifying

knotty hill
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Oh, this episode gonna be good

knotty hill
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OUCH FCG

robust zealot
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Oh no... FCG murder bot confirmed...

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lol

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Oh. My. God... Orym is Batman in this Justice League of insanity...

polar falcon
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these 'activities' are actually pretty cool

paper dawn
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Sam is right this round is very ASMRy

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Uh oh

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Gambling time

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AN HOURGLASS?!?!?!

polar falcon
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yesss

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there maybe should have been one in every round after the first :p

paper dawn
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Critical Amogus

knotty hill
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So much fun

robust zealot
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One night ultimate Chet

knotty hill
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The truth bomb challenge was just brutal for them all

static isle
static isle
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Why didn't Fearne tell Ashton that she liked him?!

pure ginkgo
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I find it hilarious that bells hells entrusted their mental wellbeing and improvement and the hands of ~2 beings that are different kinds of disconnected from the human(oid) experience

steel siren
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WHY! Nooo! I'm so mad, arghh! I'm just now catching up and when Ashton failed his dex save and had to make the athletics at disadvantage due to being blind...

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HE WAS RAGING

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IT SHOULDA BEEN A STRAIGHT ROLL

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Two people at the table that played barbs and no one thought of this super straight forward rule? This is what barbarians doooo T_T

deft cloak
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CritRole makes a ton of mechanical mistakes, which is fine because it's about the story, not perfect play

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having said that, I think disadvantage makes sense, because it's not about the strength aspect of it, it's about the aiming in the right direction

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it arguably should have been an acrobatics, not athletics

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either way, thematically it makes sense for him to fail it

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and it made for a very entertaining followup with Orym

steel siren
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grumbles It was a mistake I didn't want to accept >_>

deft cloak
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There are a TON of mistakes that are annoying

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But I live with them because it's fun and about the story not the mechanics for me

crude sonnet
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The mistakes being there is also a good reminder that critical role is just a group of random, imperfect people, who, even though they are technically professionals, are still capable of remembering a rule wrong in a game they’ve consistently been playing for over 8 years

deft cloak
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very true, gotta remember they are professional voice actors, not professional dnd players

cedar lichen
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campaign 1

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was my favorite

feral jackal
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Ye

paper dawn
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Amogus

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They’re definitely failing this one. The players are all hella suspicious

knotty hill
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Alrighty, let's take bets. Who are the imposters?

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I'm going with Imogen and Ashton.

knotty hill
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Oh send help, we're asking Ashley a question from EXU lol

robust zealot
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Ok, here's my theory. None of them are imposters

paper dawn
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That’s my theory as well. Matt did some slight of hand when he showed them the cards

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He hid his hands behind the dm screen when “shuffling” them

robust zealot
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Why have a team building exercise when you exclude 2 people from it? I think the cards maybe told them to act with a slight tweak to their personality, but that's it

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Right now, fcgs more suspicious, orym's more outspoken, and fearne is... ok, fearne is fearne, no change needes

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Needed*

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But at the end of the day, I think they are all themselves.

knotty hill
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I'm betting on Imogen being a double atleast, because she could instantly find the doubles out just by checking everyone's minds.

robust zealot
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Nana mori.

knotty hill
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So, she needs to be out of the picture.

robust zealot
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I dont think its beyond the power of nana mori to block certain abilities in an area of her creation.

knotty hill
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Nuts.....

paper dawn
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YOU MESSED WITH SQUIRRELS MORTY!

robust zealot
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Oh gees Chet!

static isle
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I missed so much 😫

knotty hill
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Time-wise, yes.
But as far as content, no.

We picked 2 fakes, and were dropped into this area to retrieve some branches.

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We have obtained a branch, and that's about it

paper dawn
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“OH GOD THEYRE BURNING” 😂

static isle
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A game of among us lol

robust zealot
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Lol, Ashton's been on damage control the entire time

static isle
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Nana is probably watching and eating popcorn 🤣

robust zealot
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Lol, I didn't have chetney randomly absorbing the shard on my radar 😉 hahaha

paper dawn
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I really don’t think there are any doppelgängers

knotty hill
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Come on Imogen and Ashton! 😄

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lol, if Mori just smites Orym right now, that'd be hilarious.

robust zealot
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Man... beard sorcery is getting their monies worth.

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So many whisper ads today

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Lol

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Lol! "I put away my bees" she says reluctantly. Haha

paper dawn
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I KNEW IT

knotty hill
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Laura want stick

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Give stick

robust zealot
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Gib! Gib stick!

static isle
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NANA HOODWINKED THEM!

robust zealot
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That was really neat.

knotty hill
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I wanna know what stick is

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Pls read off stick description.

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Healy stick

paper dawn
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It heals good

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Oh boy, no death ward safety net

knotty hill
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Charging up now.

polar falcon
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fearne takin on the fear and the fire!

paper dawn
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Infearneo

knotty hill
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Spicy Fearne now

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Flesh lungs to go with the flesh tongue

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I wanna know what MISTER looks like

paper dawn
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Guys I have an idea faceplants

polar falcon
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of course Matt had this "others around you make you complete" thing for the shards, and of course taliesin took 3 sessions to work that through the very-character-appropriate, but also self-destructive trauma mill before hitting it 😭
thus META proving the point!
anyway, praising the new emperor and empress

knotty hill
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Now we just need to make sure Aabria never guests on this campaign ever again lol

polar falcon
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she'd throw lit fireworks into the thing dndLol

knotty hill
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The spirit of Laerryn Coramar-Seelie would rise up to destroy Fearne and Ashton, by dragging them across all of space

pure ginkgo
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Calling it now that the episode title is going to be:"trust and transformation"

static isle
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Ok so who was going to tell me that Delilah was a (former) Cerberus Assembly member?

knotty hill
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Archmage of Antiquity, yep.

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Out there collecting the shinies

static isle
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She still trying to collect shinies from the grave too

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Tried to get that shard

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Speaking of, I wonder if Fearne is going to take it

knotty hill
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She has.

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Fearne and Ashton have become demi-Titans seemingly.

static isle
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Ok. Just finished. What an episode!!

deft cloak
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I honestly thought they were overpreparing before Fearne took the shard

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thinking that it was so horrible for Ashton because he already had a shard, so it would be more or less fine for Fearne

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but boy oh boy did that get close

fringe mesa
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Ok, I enjoy getting lore correct when I can and I am looking to fold Critical Role lore into how I conceptualize the forgotten realms. Is there a good place to start that isn't 30000 hours of watching the gameplay? I'm working on it, but just don't have that time.

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I know Taldorei and Faerune got conencted by Wildemount, but that's about it.

ruby quiver
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Not sure what you mean by that last sentence. Taldorei and wildemount are two continents in Exandria, which is the setting

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There is a wiki however

static isle
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Oh Sam

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Smh

robust zealot
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So many innuendos this episode...

robust zealot
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Oh god...this is absolutely terrifying with nana mori and chetney...

knotty hill
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Oh that's a choice

robust zealot
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Who the actual heck, or should I say.. what the actual heck is nana mori... this power to alter reality... I love how Fearne was just casually living with this being of incredible cosmic power...

knotty hill
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Archfey

paper dawn
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Wait, won’t this go away once they long rest?

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How long does heroes feast last?

robust zealot
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Heroes feast benefits last for 24 hours

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"A creature that partakes of the feast gains several benefits. The creature is cured of all diseases and poison, becomes immune to poison and being frightened, and makes all Wisdom saving throws with advantage. Its hit point maximum also increases by 2d10, and it gains the same number of hit points. These benefits last for 24 hours."

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Oh no... Orym... dont do it...

paper dawn
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It’s done

robust zealot
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I wonder if after this massive battle, they are going to wrap this season up. With a deal like that, it doesnt bode well for longevity.

polar falcon
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they are within spitting distance of when the other campaigns ended, maybe 30-40 episodes left. My guess is they will do this scouting for 5 or so session, learn some stuff to return and tell the world and do power ups, fetch quests, and bow-tying for 15-ish sessions, then start end game march till the conclusion

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but they could pull one over and try final confrontation right then and there on ruidus

knotty hill
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I’m hoping we get them to lvl 20 this time round.

patent kite
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Just watched the Kiri farewell scene

knotty hill
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Kiri is very sweet

paper dawn
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I can’t believe they didn’t make a plan in all this time

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I mean I can believe that

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But it’s so stupid of them

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WHY DO ALL YOUR PLANS INVOLVE BEING SEEN

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🤦‍♂️

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Why would you not just

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Sneak past them

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why are you interacting with the people you’re trying to sneak past

knotty hill
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Dammit, I missed the first hour.

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Anyone got me some bullet points?

deft cloak
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they used an emp on the warden outside the pit to distract a guard, there was a ryloran on the lip of the pit next to a big arcane device, tried to distract the one on the lip with patee, juggernaut ryloran came over and killed patee, then chetney revealed himself and attacked the juggernaut. imogen revealed herself and pretended to be on their side, fake killing chetney with telekinesis, then they tried to fake their way past the ryloran, laudna failed, then imogen pushed the ryloran off the edge, and toppled the arcane device on top of him and killed him, then started going down the pit pathway

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you are now caught up

deft cloak
paper dawn
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Do not help this man he isn’t important to your task

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Momentum is the name of the game

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Get to the bridge and cross before anyone can question you

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WHY ARE THEY HELPING THIS RANDOM PRISONER

knotty hill
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I'm getting big Mind Flayer moment vibes here

deft cloak
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I feel bad for Marisha, rolling so bad over and over and over sucks

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oof

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clutch

upper reef
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This is the Van Guard!

deft cloak
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unlucky that fearne's charm person went to waste

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I guess it doesn't matter because they made quick work of them anyway

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that was an awesome turn by ashton

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I've always been annoyed that they messed up the portable hole

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it's supposed to be only a 6ft hole and 10ft deep

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you are also able to escape it with a low strength check

deft cloak
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that was a long first half, I hope the 2nd half is going to be long too

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oh it will be, lets gooo

upper reef
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Long ep tonight wahoo!

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I hope we see dorian or someone from EXU they said there would be a special guest on 4 sided dive i wonder if someone’s coming back

deft cloak
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I have a funny feeling it is going to be someone new that they meet on the moon

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perhaps a friendly ryloran

upper reef
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The one who opened the door

deft cloak
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major buzzkill lol

upper reef
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1000 yard stare

deft cloak
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hoooolllyyy

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what a map

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that's awesome

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oh geez

deft cloak
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we love high initiative

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uh oh

upper reef
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R u watching on twitch do u know when this ends im tryna stay awake

deft cloak
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it should end in a little over an hour

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at approx. 2:40am est

upper reef
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Oh word okay im goin to sleep enjoy the rest of the ep!! Hope they make it outta this okay :’)

deft cloak
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sleep well!

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I hope they do aswell haha

deft cloak
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whew

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that could've gone much worse

paper dawn
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I tapped out near the break because eepy. Did anyone die, is anyone captured, did anyone betray the party

deft cloak
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no no no

paper dawn
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Excellent!

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Are they on the moon

deft cloak
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yes

paper dawn
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Rad

deft cloak
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episode ended right as they all got there

paper dawn
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Monday should be interesting

deft cloak
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it was dicey getting into the bloody bridge

paper dawn
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Well yeah it’s a dice game

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🥁

deft cloak
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booooo

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get this guy off the stage

knotty hill
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No CR tonight. They sick. Instead, BG3 with Travis, Taliesin, Sam, and Robbie

robust zealot
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Tempting fate by not having the "workplace safe" setting on. (I have to phrase it like that as the first time didn't make it through the auto filter, lol)

robust zealot
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Sam posted an... interesting... photo on his twitter. It's not workplace safe as an fyi, lol

polar falcon
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boy they really had fun, didnt they?

hushed needle
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what campaign was everyones fav? mine was 2 for sure

fading wharf
low socket
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Fan theory - nana mori has a glass jar in her collection inside it is a rotting onion and if you look really closely at it you can see the world of calorium from dimension 20

polar falcon
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c1 is still my fave, though now i think c3 is second

pure ginkgo
low socket
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1 is ok if you skip the first 30sh episodes, 2 is great and 3 is starting to get good again after a bit of a lul

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3 has some of the best characters though but I love 2s story

tranquil sparrow
hushed needle
hushed needle
low socket
celest quiver
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Cool stuff!

crimson quiver
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hey all -- relatively new critter but have been diving DEEP into it ... wondering if they're doing any events this year does anyone know?

paper dawn
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I hope they remember that Keyleth gave them Windwalk

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It’s been so long irl they’ve probably forgotten

knotty hill
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Yep

knotty hill
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The hell? Mid-episode level up lol

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I'm not ready.

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Chet: Can go wolf mode twice per rest now and has a passive regeneration feature if he's ever below half-health
Laudna: 5th level spells
FCG: ASI
Imogen: ASI
Orym: ASI
Ashton: ASI +1 Rages
Fearne: Become's arcane trickster

knotty hill
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So, once you tap into Ruidus, it consumes you.

paper dawn
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Why do they keep trying to rationalize the people trying to wake up Praedathos as not being the bad guys

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They’re thinking too hard about this istg

knotty hill
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Pls don't wake up the thing that will consume everything

paper dawn
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I love the CR crew, but good lord do they like to monologue too much. They’ve had this exact conversation like eighteen times in small variations

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“Why are we doing this?” “If the gods all die is that a bad thing?” “I don’t even like the gods very much and these ruidus powers are pretty cool”

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IF YOU WANT TO BE THE BAD GUYS THEN JUST DO IT

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Campaign 4 prediction: they’re gonna do an evil campaign if Exandria survives

knotty hill
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My kingdom for another dust of deliciousness moment, where one of them just forces a choice right then and there

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lol, I've done this in a game, but the opposite direction. Cut myself up to be tossed into a BoH, for infultration.

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.... has my wish been granted?

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ALL MINDS BURN

paper dawn
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Yeah planting it in the surface stormy desert is just inviting the sprout to die

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It’s definitionally an invasive species

paper dawn
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It feels like 3 campaigns has made them trepidatious to make decisions or have strong opinions

paper dawn
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Moon people!

solar crescent
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Not complaining just observing

stark mauve
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I watched the first couple of episodes of the animated series

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Good stuff

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Had moments where I laughed out loud

knotty hill
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Vox Machina remains my favorite party.

fringe moss
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Just started watching Critical Role. Am at C1E20. So much fun!

low socket
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Gets better after about episode 42 ish

rose zephyr
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Dude that is 208 hours

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I ain’t watching 8 days worth of a show for it to get good 💀

fringe moss
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I think its already good

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🤷‍♂️

low socket
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It’s good but gets a lot better after a certain point

knotty hill
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Underdark fun times were good and simple 😄

knotty hill
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I think they're missing some quality game time there

knotty hill
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Bah, missed almost an hour!

paper dawn
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You think they’re even going to acknowledge the threat to the Gods?

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Or the Gods at all?

knotty hill
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I certainly wouldn't.

"Hi, we're here because your god might just wipe us all out if it wakes up." is quite the hurdle.

knotty hill
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CHETNEY, THEY HAVE ALIEN WOOD!!!

paper dawn
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They are really not acting like people whose actions the fate of the world may very well rest upon

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They’re acting like they’re on vacation

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The questions have been good, but priority alpha should be interfacing with this rebel group

deft cloak
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ORYM

ruby shell
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Im new but the way that the elder sounded like Jim carrey so much. Made me crack up

halcyon belfry
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quick qn

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what lvl was the party when they fought those vampires in Camp 1

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briarwoods

low socket
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Which time? What episode?

halcyon belfry
low socket
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According to crt role stats grog got craven edge at lvl12

halcyon belfry
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that like wht session

low socket
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End of season 1 iirc

ruby quiver
halcyon belfry
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wow

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ama have to rewatch it in the camp form then

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i was thinking what lvl would they be bc they were fighting vampires 😭

ruby quiver
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Campaign 1 began streaming at level 9

halcyon belfry
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oh

halcyon belfry
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btw when the next season 👀

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if anyone knows

ruby quiver
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While the show does cover broad plot points, many of the small moments are changed/removed

daring needle
paper dawn
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I can’t watch tonight for reasons

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If anyone dies or something crazy happens someone please @ me

deft cloak
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This might be the best rolling from one person I've ever seen, Laura hasn't rolled lower than a 24 in like 10 rolls

knotty hill
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@paper dawn Otohan rematch time

deft cloak
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maybe, maybe not

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could very well be a It's bad, we're running moment

paper dawn
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Uh oh

deft cloak
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this could go real bad real fast

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22 wasn't high enough???

paper dawn
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So they’re fighting instead of running

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Wonderful

deft cloak
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FCG only has a single spell slot

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and I'm not sure how tapped Fearne is

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fighting = dying

paper dawn
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I hope fearne lives at least

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She’s my favorite

deft cloak
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she'll live because she's Ruidus born

paper dawn
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And Laudna

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I don’t expect this to go well

deft cloak
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FCG is dead

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soon to be

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no chance he survives this

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wait a second, what about Orym's deal with Morrigan

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NO WAY

knotty hill
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Umm..... Fearne's not native to Exandria however lol

deft cloak
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oh true

knotty hill
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She's heading home to Nana lol

deft cloak
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that thinking from Sam is wild, I love him

knotty hill
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Yep

deft cloak
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WHY

knotty hill
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👿

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Otohan understands that you need to remove folks from the turn order if possible

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Why do they have that movement speed again? Cause

While in this form, the target's only method of movement is a flying speed of 10 feet.
is what gaseous form gives

deft cloak
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it's Wind Walk, not Gaseous Form

paper dawn
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Who all died so far

deft cloak
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no one, FCG clutched up and banished himself and Fearne away from Otohan

paper dawn
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Oh cool

deft cloak
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then they turned into clouds and flew away

paper dawn
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The whole group or just them

deft cloak
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he also communicated to the whole group with the lasting telepathy

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and they all turned on their own

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it was only FCG and Fearne who had the encounter

paper dawn
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OH JEEZ

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I thought it was all of them

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That’s

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Yikes

deft cloak
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yeah no lol

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it was very close

zinc finch
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Quick question: as i haven’t kept up with C3 (was waiting to binge listen when most is released ),
Have they announced any new campaign settings, 5e books or the like?

azure isle
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I have never watched critical role

polar falcon
zinc finch
knotty hill
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Gods these people are too extra for their own good...

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Just write a damn letter

"Warning, there is a Siren effect here in the water. It will draw in people. We've gone back through the portal."

mental steeple
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CR is a good exampleof why 7 is too big a table

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Literally every decision become 20 minutes of not deciding

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Also a terrific example of why new player shouldnt touch spellcasters

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especially druids

knotty hill
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Laudna's om nom nom nom arc

knotty hill
mental steeple
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Often times in C3 it feels like they’re mechanically worse than they were at any time

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I suspect they are playing less dnd outside of the stream than ever, due to voice actor projects and doing CR business stuff

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For instance, i believe ashley talked about a home game but given her circumstances, that no longer is the case

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Matt used to do games at cons or collab with other groups, i bet his time is taken up planning CR, the show, and voice work

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Conversely, Sam runs a home game for his kids and unsurprisingly he is generally the sharpest at the table

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it is also pretty clear that as a whole they dont spend much time thinking about their characters from a mechanical standpoint, both pre-campaign and especially in between sessions

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They have DDB, an experienced DM, and spend weeks prepping their backstories but put little effort into studying their characters actual sheet

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Seeing them unaware of how their own characters work, or unable to track basic things like concentration or spells is pretty jarring. There are children at AL tables who are better mechanically

paper dawn
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They were at their sharpest imo in C2, which again imo remains goated

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This campaign they seem almost more interested in running lengthy emotional one on one scenes that all cyclically revolve around essentially the same core element; that being “I am cripplingly uncertain about everything we do all the time”

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Instead of

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Ya know

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Pursuing the plot

mental steeple
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They are so easily distracted by anything and also crippled by fear and paranoia anytime combat arises

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The campaign’s “main” thread is focused on the least interesting character, a knockoff jean grey

paper dawn
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It’s why Travis is so important. He makes decisions, instead of just running 30 minute introspectional RP scenes that circle around the same two or three points over and over again stuck in analysis paralysis

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He’s not immune to it but is definitely the resident big red button pusher

mental steeple
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Where we havent been given any reason for caring about her journey. And despite being a charisma class, there is very little entertaining about her. The opposite of jester

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But this whole ruidus business is ostensibly the main story

paper dawn
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To be fair, nobody can top jester

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C2 was something special

mental steeple
#

Matt literally dropped a world ending scenario on them but hey lets visit the fey realm?

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Let’s hang glide at the arshari?

paper dawn
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Exactly

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As charming as those parts are, it’s all based in the terminal introspection problem I mentioned

mental steeple
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The group seems utterly unmotivated to get their stuff together and tackle problems so why should the audience care about the end of the world

paper dawn
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Precisely

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And it’s turning me off from the story as a result I’m sad to report

mental steeple
#

Matt also set up an interesting moral dilemma about the role of gods but once Abria left that was abandoned. There was only one divinity based character (FCG) so that was a whiff

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the other 6 had no connection for or against the divine so that never had any investment either way

paper dawn
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I’ve come to believe that Exandria as it is will not survive, either because Bells Hells is too incompetent/uncertain of themselves to make a meaningful impact, or because every single one of them is so wildly unstable that the likelihood of them switching sides or otherwise sabotaging themselves seems to increase every freaking episode lmao

mental steeple
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We got a massive lore moment with VAX of all people and saving him was supposed to be a plot hook but…other than a random queen vision or two the group doesnt seem motivated to u know…hurry and save him?

paper dawn
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The party seems… shockingly apathetic about it all things considered

mental steeple
#

There’s also alot of dead end threads

paper dawn
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There is a GLARING absence of strong moral convictions about really anything in this party

mental steeple
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Fearne has randomly made pacts with…lets see:
A hag
Asmodeus
Some undead pirate

And yet, zero consequence or advancement in any of them

paper dawn
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Which isn’t a bad thing, grey characters are interesting, but is anachronistic against the plot of saving the gods and the world as a result

mental steeple
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And i know CR is “anti-optimization” but even their roleplaying -based character building choices make no sense

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Fearne has THREE patrons, so lets take two levels in…rogue? What?

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That is a situation where the DM should be stepping in - the character freely made a choice and it has to mean something. She already doesnt play her druid like a druid, so we are just doing random things in and out of game. A character and player that actively turns me off

paper dawn
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I have the strong feeling that the only reason FCG is a cleric is because the party needed a healer

mental steeple
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Launda should be super interesting as i think Marishas table presence and RP have reached elite levels but the Delilah thing has been soooo drawn out its getting tiresome. Pull the trigger, its ep 86

paper dawn
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The question of his faith often seems to boil down to “I’m a cleric, so I guess I’m supposed to be religious”

mental steeple
deft cloak
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FCG is a cleric because Sam was inspired to make a therapy-based class and cleric makes by far the most sense with that idea

paper dawn
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Exactly

mental steeple
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His murderbot thing was revealed early and the Aeorean backstory has been shelved and forgotten as we do the moon thing

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So another potentially interesting path abandoned

paper dawn
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He wanted to play as an atheist cleric. Which is fine, but not in a plot that centers around WORLD SHAKINGKY IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS CONCERNS

deft cloak
#

abandoned and sidelined are two very different things

mental steeple
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Basically its Sam being ungodly charismatic in various bits but with no real impact on the story

deft cloak
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like you said, it's episode 86. If we go based on the length of the previous two campaigns, there are easily 50-60 episodes left

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that's a LOT of time

mental steeple
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Now we’re going back and forth aimlessly from the moon with no plan

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Chetney sadly seems to be past his expiration date as well

deft cloak
#

campaign one started streaming when they were level 9

mental steeple
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I mean fun joke, and im glad Travis got to scratch his werewolf itch but whats left for this character

deft cloak
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of course they are going to tackle more significant problems faster when they are significantly higher level

mental steeple
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He’s even actively trying to kill himself with his “daily” roll to see if he dies

mental steeple
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i find myself rooting for TPKs or a couple permadeaths

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And if the endgame it Marisha playing Delilah lets just do it

deft cloak
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you are allowed to think that, you just have to realize that saying "by ep 85 we beat Delilah and the Conclave and were hitting Bard’s lament" isn't a valid criticism at all because of the difference in levels at start

mental steeple
paper dawn
# paper dawn He wanted to play as an atheist cleric. Which is fine, but not in a plot that ce...

They even did a whole parallels arc with the split. Half the party went to a place where religion and divinity was portrayed in a positive light through Aabria’s character, and the other half went to a place that did the opposite through the Dawnfather missionary antagonist. This would have been a perfect moment to have the party actually choose a hardline position that would drive the campaign narrative forward, or even prompt some interesting debate between those who believe the Gods are good and those who believe they’re tyrannical.

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But no

mental steeple
#

The moon plot apexed in e51 and it took 34 eps for them to get there and the main thing they did was get lost again

paper dawn
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Only endless ambivalence

mental steeple
deft cloak
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I don't feel like it has. I still enjoy the plot and the progression, and I feel it all makes sense for their characters. My only issue is the lack of mechanical skill from the players in regards to their sheets, but that's has always been a CR issue for me, and I get over it because everything else is great.

mental steeple
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she showd up with a Shadar-kai scribes wizard that knew her class abilities and spells and outshine absolutely everyone through…competence

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and thats a character made as a guest, it really shines a spotlight in the mechanical failure of the main cast

deft cloak
#

they were trying to prevent the moon plot before that

mental steeple
paper dawn
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Also, to the point of character debate and having strong beliefs that one sticks to, I am increasingly convinced that the members of Bells Hells do not have a healthy party relationship. Hell it was even brought up in game by Ashton’s bisharding attempt.

deft cloak
paper dawn
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It feels like they’re keeping the party together for the sake of “we’re running a show with people’s expectations on us” instead of because it makes sense for them to do so

mental steeple
#

Nada

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They dont even talk about it anymore

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there is one divinity based character whos main reference to its god is comic relief flipping a coin

deft cloak
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So you just didn't pay attention to that resolution? It was literally "we don't care about the gods at all, but if predathos escapes, the world dies too, so we are doing this mission to save the world, and as a byproduct, the gods"

paper dawn
#

Imogen and Laudna clearly want to run away together, Orym clearly wants to go home, Ashton, FCG and Chet seem worryingly blasé on the concept of living, and Fearne…

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…I have a hard time getting a read on her

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She seems to just blow through life

mental steeple
#

The resolution wasnt much of a resolution

deft cloak
#

It was a good idea, they needed to fix the internal issues of the group, and going to an archfey who can control time is a great way to do that

paper dawn
mental steeple
#

They basically agreed to stop discussing the god thing and sorta-kinda move toward fighting

deft cloak
#

they agreed they didn't care about the gods as a group, but the mission was still worth doing despite that

paper dawn
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It’s the “I don’t want to actually pick a side, but the plot and circumstances demands that I act” answer

mental steeple
#

But they move at a glacial pace and spend way too much of every episode wondeing “oh wait what spells do i have again” “guidance?!”

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

the plot is them not wanting the world and everyone on it to die?

mental steeple
#

It feels very contrived and hollow

paper dawn
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The plot is, as I’ve understood it, gods yes or gods no. The world being saved is a byproduct of that question

mental steeple
#

The relationships dont grab me at all

deft cloak
paper dawn
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They have a desired outcome in mind, preserve the status quo because it’s safer than what the bad guys want, but the question remains unanswered. The closest most of them have come is a resounding “meh”

mental steeple
#

Launda and imogen feel forced obligation to appease the shippers

When Laudna and Ashton pretty clearly had a much more interesting connection

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Ironically the best character moment imo was OUT of game on a 4SD

paper dawn
#

Laudna and Imogen I think works. It literally happened naturally to the surprise of them both

mental steeple
#

Marisha and Talieson had an actual great exchange about their characters:
A dead girl who wants to live and so sees the world positively

A living rock who feels like the world is all negative and wants to die

Diametrically opposed views and they grow by appreciating each others perspective

deft cloak
mental steeple
#

THAT is a dynamic worth exploring that should be a driving theme

paper dawn
#

Or danced around

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

Yeah, because their characters aren't religious

mental steeple
#

The lack of any leadership in the group is telling

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

Would you expect someone who doesn't care about books to care about libraries being burned?

mental steeple
#

🤷‍♂️

deft cloak
#

If you aren't entertained, don't watch.

paper dawn
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Idk

mental steeple
#

I have missed alot more streams than before

deft cloak
#

They aren't professional DnD players, they are voice actors and friends who play dnd. That's very different.

paper dawn
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Seems like a cop out to me 🤷‍♂️

mental steeple
#

They literally pull in millions

deft cloak
#

How is it a cop out at all though?

mental steeple
#

“Its a simple home game” was left far behind in c1

paper dawn
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Much less frequent than CR and much shorter, but at least compared to C3 significantly richer

mental steeple
#

12m kickstarter, multiple show deal with Amazon, comic deals, toy deals, merch everywhere, twitch and YT subs, multiple side companies for production

You cannot say they arent professional Dnd players when they might be the most famous ones

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this is a business

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sorry if that is hard to hear

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i dont begrudge them at all

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They have earned it

low socket
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Does it matter

deft cloak
#

Sure, call them professional dnd players if you want. I'll concede that because I don't care to argue it. Either way, you can't say they aren't entertaining because that's entirely subjective.

#

I'm still very entertained by all their goings on.

mental steeple
# low socket Does it matter

Depends?

when someone tells me to handwaive their decisions at the table bc its “just friends playing dnd” i have to laugh

deft cloak
#

And have enjoyed (for the most part) this entire campaign.

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The only time I started to feel meh about it was the Issylra group when they split, but that was mainly because I didn't like the extras very much as characters.

mental steeple
#

I think it is entirely reasonable to say that its disappponting (politely) that Ashley doesnt know what shes doing most of the time

Or that i wish Marisha understood the BA spell rule

paper dawn
# deft cloak How is it a cop out at all though?

I feel that the core of the issue is going unaddressed. They did come to an answer, more or less (FCG, bless him, keeps trying to get the others to think harder about this, but is too uncertain of himself to hold them to a position), but their answer doesn’t address the main theme that Aabria’s character so succinctly expresses to the Dawnfather; “are you worth saving?” And to me at least that absence of a hard stance makes everything around it ring hollow

mental steeple
#

Nobody can tell me “they arent professional” as an excuse

paper dawn
#

But that’s just my opinion

deft cloak
#

Yup! And I would agree, it's frustrating at times to watch them completely forget the basics of dnd, but I get over it because that's not why I watch CR. I would be a fool to do that, they've never been very good or efficient with their abilities and rules.

mental steeple
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Sorry if you are making money racking up a million views i think its fair to expect you to know what “concentration” is

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and not ask if thats a con save

deft cloak
#

Do you think it's fair to have 9 years of experience with a certain group of entertainers and continually expect them to be different?

mental steeple
#

Or take four bonus actions in a round or something. They regularly forget they used it and just…do more things. Marisha may have cast 3 spells in a turn once (hex, fireball, EB i think)

paper dawn
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For instance: they definitely all agree that Ludanis has to die, and they’re right about that. But the most they’ve ever discussed about Ludanis’s underlying arguments and philosophies regarding the gods and Praedathos are “hey guys, do you think he’s right?” and everyone mumbling indecisively

mental steeple
#

Doesnt seem like asking for much when they’re sponsored by DDB

paper dawn
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I think that’s what’s really bugging me. The indecision. The fear to commit hard to one choice when presented with an assortment

paper dawn
#

I can relate to them forgetting rules in the heat of the moment

deft cloak
# paper dawn I feel that the core of the issue is going unaddressed. They did come to an answ...

I mean, that's an interesting idea, but these aren't the characters to explore that nor is it fundamental to the continuation of the plot. Deanna worked perfectly to explore that type of idea because her complicated relationship with the Dawnfather in the past, but none of these characters are religiously enclined, not even FCG despite being a cleric. So instead of expecting them to wrestle with a moral quandary they shouldn't care about in character, they sidestep it and focus on something they should care about.

mental steeple
#

i would prefer to see a seasoned group of players to know what their characters can do, act decisively as a group to solve problems using their abilities to the fullest and also be creative while roleplaying in an entertaining manner; I would like less screaming in panic and …passing a turn

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Which we got tonight

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Pass bc i cant find what i can do

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i can only shake my head

paper dawn
knotty hill
#

😄 is why I keep it simple as a warlock. What do I do this turn? Eldritch Blast+instruct summons

paper dawn
mental steeple
#

Are you joking

paper dawn
#

Personally that’s why when I play I take a slower pace and confer with my players to figure out what they want

knotty hill
#

In the stress of the moment, choice paralysis is a thing.

mental steeple
#

They custom made their characters, they have DDB, they had session zeros, and this player PLAYED IT IN A PRIOR MINISERIES

paper dawn
deft cloak
knotty hill
#

And for better and worse, they all have very broad ability sets that give them tons of options in the game.

mental steeple
#

Like, fiery teleportation is one of the main features of WILDFIRE DRUID, why are you this subclass if you dont know what it does

paper dawn
#

Also what level are they now? Anything over 10 quickly becomes ungainly

knotty hill
#

So, they become unsure of what exactly it is they should do that turn.

deft cloak
#

they are 12 now I believe

knotty hill
paper dawn
mental steeple
#

Some people dont have these luxuries and are able to…know to play?

paper dawn
deft cloak
#

Yeah, especially on a small tablet with DDB

mental steeple
#

These arent random generate sheets

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They made these characters

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With a professional Dm

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Over many weeks

deft cloak
#

great resource if you have a full screen, but a small screen absolutely sucks when you have so much to find

mental steeple
#

Are we seriously saying small screen is an excuse?

knotty hill
mental steeple
#

They have 17 laptops at least

paper dawn
#

Eh. My frustrations are all on the narrative side. DND is a dense game, even 5e, and I’ll never fault someone for forgetting what they can do in the heat of a stressful moment

mental steeple
#

purchased for cutrate prices

deft cloak
#

Are you seriously saying you expect them to memorize the exact wording and saves of every one of their abilities and spells?

mental steeple
#

On matts twitter

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

Alright, then we just fundamentally disagree about what we are watching. Agree to disagree. No need for further discussion.

paper dawn
#

That’s a bit much. Matt is more of a dnd nerd than any of the others and I don’t think he’s done that

knotty hill
#

They know them, just suck under pressure.

mental steeple
#

I expect them to know their abilities and how they work. If i were asking people to pay to watch me play dnd, then i would put in the effort to KNOW MY CHARACTERS SHEET

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If you are at a random home game, no

deft cloak
#

If it bothers you this much though, I would suggest just not watching. Why submit yourself to so much frustration?

mental steeple
#

Them, yes

paper dawn
#

These aren’t paragons of unearthly skill, they’re adult people with other concerns

knotty hill
#

Sometimes I do feel like perhaps DDB use just doesn’t fit for a few of em.

mental steeple
knotty hill
mental steeple
deft cloak
#

If you think there is no pressure in making a weekly 4 hour show that millions will watch, live or not, then idk what to tell you.

knotty hill
#

All dropping live did was negate Sam’s ability to read twitch chat when it wasn’t his turn lol

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

Especially with thousands of people like you that loudly complain at every mistake.

mental steeple
#

I mean that is their actual job

deft cloak
#

Do you know how voice acting is done as a profession?

#

Do you think it's all one take?

mental steeple
mental steeple
#

They perform in front of live mics and cameras, some of them for decades

But their dnd game causes them to utterly fall apart? Please

knotty hill
#

Because they’re invested in it.

mental steeple
#

its poor preparation- thats my point

knotty hill
#

That it’s broadcasted to us is besides the point. It’s their game that they’re having fun playing. We just get to watch

deft cloak
#

^

knotty hill
#

And sometimes in games, the tension goes up, and you mess up.

#

There are no scripts for them to follow here

mental steeple
deft cloak
#

Or you panic because a wrong decision could immediately backfire and result in a TPK

mental steeple
#

i mean i guess if you’re applying that as the standard but that isnt what they are

mental steeple
knotty hill
#

That is what they are. This is their game we just happen to get to watch. That’s why they keep doing it, because it’s fun.

mental steeple
#

They act like they will get TPK’d but Matt bends over backwards for them and they still fumble

#

This isnt Brennan who actually TPK’d

#

Otahan was a TPK

deft cloak
#

it would have been

mental steeple
#

It should have been and they would have deserved it based on their decisions , but that was DM intervention to not, which is why i find their panic so offputting

#

Matt has yet to truly punish them

deft cloak
#

if Imogen hadn't relinquished control and gone down the exact path Otohan wanted

knotty hill
#

Travis, Laura, and Marisha TPK’d back in their C2 test session lol

deft cloak
#

and 3 people still died

mental steeple
deft cloak
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????????

mental steeple
deft cloak
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Is there any aspect of critical role that you like?

mental steeple
knotty hill
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And I’d point to Taliesin just as a major example of the consequences that happen when you mess up

mental steeple
knotty hill
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C3 is the first time he’s ever gotten to keep a character going lol

mental steeple
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Is he dead?

deft cloak
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is death the only consequence you care about?

mental steeple
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Molly’s death was earned so that was good. They made a bad plan and it was punished

knotty hill
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Percy was his 2nd character in C1. We watched Mollymauk get killed in C2

Took him playing a Barbarian to finally get to keep a character lol

mental steeple
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As a result, their party had to deal with it and there was something to play off

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Unfortunately since then they also have acted extremely cowardly in combat ever since

deft cloak
mental steeple
deft cloak
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none of which have to do with the campaign

mental steeple
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But you’re making alot of excuses to handwaive legitimate criticisms bc you think I’m some sort of negative nancy

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sorry but i hold them to a higher standard personally

deft cloak
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I truly don't believe you have anything positive to say about it at all. It's fine, to each their own, I dont' expect everyone to like everything. I'm just profoundly confused why you watch it in the first place?

mental steeple
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Again, I’ve skipped alot more live streams than before

deft cloak
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"I hold them to a higher standard" that they have never reached?

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do you watch the playbacks or do you just skip episodes entirely

mental steeple
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Buddy i have watched Bard’s Lament approximately 10000 times

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I have watched Flashcards almost as much

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I know about cat ninja tower

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I own the minis

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Please

deft cloak
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Cool! I'm glad you are a fan of their past work.

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They have make a lot of incredible content.

mental steeple
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Im waiting for LOVM s3 announcement

deft cloak
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understandable! I am too, super looking forward to that and M9

mental steeple
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why do you think car crashes attract attention?

deft cloak
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My question is, there has been 86 episodes in campaign 3. Is that not long enough for you to recognize that you should just stop watching this campaign based on your complaints?

mental steeple
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Brenna needs to guest DM, have Asmodeous take Fearne away

mental steeple
knotty hill
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Definitely do agree that Bell’s hells need to have their dust of deliciousness moment, where they’re just locked out of other options.

deft cloak
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I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just questioning the purpose behind why you do it?

mental steeple
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and if hearing criticism of c3 bothers you please use the block function

knotty hill
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Like, honestly I think Predathos should wake up now, and they have to fight back.

deft cloak
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If there is nothing positive to be gained by watching, why watch?

mental steeple
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How bout that, itll be a gift to keep you wondering

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Call it a puzzle or a life lesson

deft cloak
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So you are just being overtly rude now?

mental steeple
knotty hill
mental steeple
mental steeple
knotty hill
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Even Tharizdun might be concerned about this.

mental steeple
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They didnt really explain wht Tharizdon was different

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Dude wounded Iuon permanently

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We needed to add another BBEG on top?

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Answering some of these questions seems like a priority

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But…alas

knotty hill
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Yes, because Tharizdun can be stopped again if needed. The other gods can do it again if it came to that. Predathos though, they lost the ability to handle it again.

mental steeple
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Seems to me like Marvel needed a new bad guy for phase 4

knotty hill
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This thing took the combined efforts of all the gods and the primordials together, and still managed to fully consume several of em.

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And since then, the Primordials got wiped out and the gods went to war

mental steeple
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Guess we’re back to square one:
We have a bigger threat than ever
But a party less coherent or motivated than ever

Which as fan leaves me at 🤷‍♂️

knotty hill
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They’re as coherent as ever. Motivations however are a bit off.

mental steeple
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Eh

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I already went thru it above

knotty hill
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We can’t exactly sit here and pretend that Vox Machina and the Mighty Nein didn’t do their own bit of screwing around.

ivory sky
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Everyone can and should do their bits of screwing around.

dreamy lion
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does any 1 know when season 3 of The Legend of Vox Machina comes out?

tranquil sparrow
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Check his insta

spice flax
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Sadface, Candella tonight instead of Critical role

viral root
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Not sad in the slightest :3 Liam GMing horror with Taliesin as a player; it's gonna be sweet. I can't wait.

spice flax
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i tried watching but have only ever got about 20 minuts into an episode of candella before stopping

polar falcon
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im excited for alex ward to play, he was great in the elden ring one shot

viral socket
dreamy lion
tranquil sparrow
hushed needle
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On my second play through of c2

paper dawn
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Busy tonight, someone please @ me if anyone’s life in Bells Hells is in serious danger

knotty hill
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Hahaha, guns have made it to the moon!

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Well done Percival

knotty hill
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Time for violence

polar falcon
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oh my 2x nat 20

knotty hill
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That's messed up

polar falcon
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2x again! and some kindness from matt to honor the crits i suppose

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dndNat20 s all the way lol

knotty hill
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Can it be.... the snitch returned!?

paper dawn
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Who?

knotty hill
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The golden snitch, Taliesin’s most terrible weapon. Matthew confiscated it at the end of Campaign 1, but it was stolen from his car to never be seen again.

polar falcon
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wow orym really battle master'd that turn

knotty hill
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Fighters can do terrifying things

polar falcon
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eyy BH finally getting some motivation to help others in the riloran resistance?

knotty hill
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Give em a minute to find 1 person on Ludi's side who makes em sad lol

tranquil sparrow
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Anyone know where I can find people who wanna test daggerheart?

untold haven
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Check Demiplane as that's where the materials are being provided digitally

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(also for future reference, other game system discussions should happen in #non-dnd-topics )

tranquil sparrow
tranquil sparrow
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Hey, ive been trying to find this dungeon, i dont remember a lot about it and i feel like im being gaslit that it didnt exist, but it was like a huge stacked tower of modular sets matt made, i cant remember if it was one of their oneshots but i think it was just mighty nein and they kept getting electrocuted on the way down a set of stairs, anyone have any ideas where i can find it or what episode?

pallid whale
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anyone have any info on "the legend of vox machina"?

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like when the next season drops?

quick musk
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@tranquil sparrow: Beyond the Eyes of Angels, C2 E67. Timestamp: 1:42:46 I think is the one you’re thinking of

tranquil sparrow
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yup i think thats it, thanks!

daring laurel
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Not 100% sure, though.

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Anyone have any idea how to catch up to current content faster? I am watching campaign 3 now and in 2 months I got to episode 21. And I am watching at 1.5x speed 😅

mental steeple
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Laura didnt take subtle spell metamagic

Travis jokes that she didnt make a busted build

Sigh

stark mauve
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Hey guys I’m still pretty new to CR, Ive been listening to it in podcast form but want to watch the VODs also. Is there anyway I can easily skip the intros for each episode

random bolt
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YouTube if you're willing to wait a few days for the episode to be uploaded

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The intros are there but easy to skip with the video preview

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Although, Sam Reigels ads are some of the best TV out there.

honest osprey
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I'm catching up with Critical Role Campaign 3 thanks to having online classes.

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Up to Episode 39. Only... 48 more to go.

low socket
stark mauve
river bolt
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Is CR on Spotify? May be a dumb question

daring laurel
stark mauve
low socket
river bolt
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Thank you so much!! :D

knotty hill
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After so long....

knotty hill
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Aw, it's time for Imogen to kill Mama 😄

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The heck you mean Mama's grey here. She's out here looking to genocide a world here. Oh boo hoo, she's responsible for other little children here on the moon. Cry me a river.

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Um, Ashton... in every history we know of, Exandria was literally a molten rock until the gods arrived. There was nothing before them.

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Ashton, you advocate for the devil enough, and eventually they're gonna show up.

polar falcon
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yeah lilianna has been being fed lines for way too long

knotty hill
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She refused to even entertain the option of just stop poking the god eater

polar falcon
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imo has to realize the only way she possibly lives at this point is if they destroy the organization around her

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and thats... kinda a long shot

knotty hill
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Yea, at this point.... just let the assassination attempt happen, because she's too far gone now

static moon
# knotty hill Um, Ashton... in every history we know of, Exandria was literally a molten rock ...

From the humans' perspective. But we know the titans were there before the gods arrived, and we also know that titans literally spontaneously create life around them (like when the party found Rau'shan's shard). If that's what a tiny shard can do then surely a living, whole titan's powers would do much more.

Based on just that we know 100% Exandria was full of primordial/elemental creatures living their lives until the gods invaded, ruined it, and replaced the native species with humanoids and beasts and such 🙂

knotty hill
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Sure, but the point was more that Ashton’s just being contrarian for the sake of it. This is their apocalypse event, which will see them all wiped out.

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Ashton themselves is one of those little people that the Gods made.

lament quiver
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What is "critical role" like a natural 20 lol 😆

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And who is ashton?

untold haven
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You can learn a lot by reading a channel's description - in this case Critical Role is a D&D stream. Ashton is a character that one of the players is playing.

sterile root
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so what would happen if a Reilora was infected with a mind flayer parasite?

pure ginkgo
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Presumably the same thing that happens with any humanoid infected with a mind flayer parasite?

daring needle
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ok so i'm just looking through my DMG... and the Sword of Kas looks familiar...
not looking for spoilers specifically, i guess... but if someone confirms it i will not be mad...
is Grog's big black sword the Sword of Kas?

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i'm only on C1 E63 or something like that, so we haven't really dove into Vecna or anything yet, though he has been hinted at a couple times, name-dropped, really. but this sword seems really similar to what Grog wields, and it would, dramatically, make so much sense if Grog, of all people, had possession of it.

pure ginkgo
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I believe he's wielding the the blood ax at that point? the sword of Kas definitely... involves itself with Grog at some point but not that one (best I could to not spoil)

daring needle
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actually now that i'm thinking about it, they tossed the sword he had into a different plane... but i'm pretty sure the Sword of Kas can only be destroyed by the hand/eye of Vecna, so i'll have to see if another appearance is made by that weapon

pure ginkgo
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Oh THAT

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No that's not the sword of Kas that's Kraven edge

daring needle
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Ahh, ok. I guess, cursed swords are gonna be similar in some ways.

pure ginkgo
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Ay a man's got a type I respect it

daring needle
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cause just thinking about it, Grog makes the most sense to disguise the sword... Being a barb, he can't cast spells while raging, and so that would give Travis something to roleplay somewhere down the line (i know that's something he doesnt have to do super often, so he takes what he can get), and it would be a huge reveal to see him casting whatever spells that sword would give him. Plus, i mean, Vox Machina are really good at finding cursed weapons and bonding them immediately

static cargo
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So quick question, New to basically everything, where to start in Critical role?

random bolt
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I'm sure others can give you a better idea... But campaign 2 is really good place to start. And of course, start on episode 1.

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They are currently filming campaign 3 if you just want to start with their current content.

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Forget about things like 4 sided dive until you're ready for more bts content.

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I haven't watched any Candela Obscura stuff, but that's new and current as well.

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Daggerfall stuff fits in there somewhere but I wouldn't start there... Unless you have a reason to dig into their new ttrpg system.

ruby quiver
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"where to start" is really up to you, but starting from the beginning is always an option

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with campaign 1 there are generally 2 suggestions: episode 1 if you want, but you can also start at episode 27/28, which is suggested for a number of reasons, but most importantly you also won't truly miss out on that much as it almost all gets recapped or comes up later (the feeling of "should i know about this already" is present even when starting at episode 1, due to the campaign being a home game before being streamed)

raven stag
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before you do, watch this so you understand the story more

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This video is the pre-stream adventures, retold in a video

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I enjoyed the under dark arc a lot, and even despite all the issues the cast and the DM still are killing it

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its not even about knowing how the story progresses, but being there in the moment and seeing everything the chars are doing and how players are having so much fun

static cargo
patent lava
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Honestly their interactions are so real and raw it's beautiful. Even watching them it ends up feeling like hanging with friends at times

fringe jacinth
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there doing session today right?

knotty hill
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That's a big bug

knotty hill
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Momma Timult ain't happy hahaha

polar falcon
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what a cliffhanger though i love it

cunning shadow
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Catching up on season 2 and I'm having a really hard time of it. Without getting into specifics, I feel like I would ragequit if my fellow players engaged in some of the outright group sabotage that has occurred in the past several episodes.

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Yelling when the group is trying to be stealthy, deliberately giving yourself disadvantage effects, going rogue and placing your character in mortal danger that the rest of the party has to risk themselves for just for the lulz. It's funny, because it's a show, but from a gaming perspective it sucks, because I know Matt has to bail them out, again.

low socket
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Ah veth being veth good times

swift dune
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Last night was one of the best episodes of C3 in a while IMO. But I felt like FCG/Ashton (Really just FCG) should've been punished far more for the short timer setting.

polar falcon
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it ended up what like 100 damage or so?

swift dune
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100ish for the tunnel impact then like 20ish for their fall impact I think?

knotty hill
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Blessed be our goddess Jester for ending that whole mess.

low socket
knotty hill
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So wonderful, because everyone was just trying to figure out who could fall on their swords the hardest, and I was honestly thinking Veth derserved to be a goblin permanently for offering to restart the war they were ending.

hearty trail
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HOLY CRAP

polar falcon
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my fav villain just murdered one of my fav PCs o_o

knotty hill
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SMASH THE DANG BACKPACK AND END HER

knotty hill
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Ok, Otohan just is not a fun fight...

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Like, the amount of nonsense going on is just insane.

knotty hill
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Hey @paper dawn you normally wanna be informed of dead characters, yea?

paper dawn
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…yes

knotty hill
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Time for Sam's back up

paper dawn
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Oof

knotty hill
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Self destruction to try and end Otohan.

paper dawn
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Did it at least work?

knotty hill
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We're about to find out

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And it did

paper dawn
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Eyyyy

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Silver linings

knotty hill
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5 hours of combat with Otohan has been brutal.

paper dawn
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I was about to ask if there was enough body to resurrect but he’s the cleric 💀

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Unless fearne knows it

knotty hill
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They're point blank on a nuke detonation.

paper dawn
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Oh

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One of Ira’s toys

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Oof

tame holly
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Wow what an episode

robust zealot
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Sheesh... over three hours of combat...

knotty hill
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Can’t wait to see what Sam has loaded up after FCG, and Ashley just became the full time healer of the group again.

polar falcon
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wow what an episode

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somewhere on exandria, frieda feels a chill

pure ginkgo
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any1 knows something similar to critrole stats livecasts? had multiple power shortages during the episode

swift dune
swift dune
robust zealot
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I love how the chats in both YouTube and twitch were freaking out over last night. One, they picked a fight with a level 20 enhanced echo knight / whatever. Two, Matt has said multiple times across multiple seasons that if a player dies, if they want to, there is usually a path back for that character. And three, rng can sometimes be super cruel, and it's nothing against anyone, just like with Laudna's final death save fail roll.

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Did they play fully optimally? No. Were mistakes made from multiple people both in character actions and specific roll numbers? Yes. It's fine. Failing and struggling in battle is a part of DND as well.

knotty hill
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Eh, at times it really felt like Otohan was a bit overtuned for the party. Especially with that backpack that let her run two different subclasses to level 20.

spice flax
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Omg I just caught last night's episode and am in tears

polar falcon
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tough fight but winable, the high number of nat 20s swung it IMO

crude sonnet
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This not being live anymore makes me so annoyed for the sole purpose that we can’t remind them when they forget a very important rule/part of their abilities

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Like there have been at least 5 different moments in just this combat where they forgot something that would’ve been very pertinent

low socket
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They don’t read the live chat so it wouldn’t matter

ruby quiver
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Even when it was live they generally tried to annoy chat for that reason

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Because they also disliked people doing that. They brought it up a number of times in the early days

spice flax
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The nat 20 death save should have given her a turn, and I yelled at the screen at that moment too. But it's Matt's game and Matt's call

lunar sparrow
lunar sparrow
polar falcon
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I am curious who the top damage dealer for that fight was. I wanna say laudna but it could be orym

patent lava
robust zealot
mental steeple
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I watched CR ep 91
I watched Fantasy High ep15

There isnt a high profile better example of how good Bless is

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The difference in parties is…stark

polar falcon
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looking at the omenarchive stats for last episode looks like orym did beat laudna by 40 pts for damage to otohan (177 to 137). hard to tell if ashton was in the running since they dont separate his combat damage from what he did to the walls earlier in the session, though 381 dmg altogether is still impressive.

and FCG doing almost 300 pts of healing all told during the ep, every spell was a healing spell till the guiding bolt at the end, they tried their best 😭

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also otohan got 5 crits, 3 of them on attacks and 2 on saves

mental steeple
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And yet FCG would have been better off casting bless turn 1

knotty hill
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Now let's see what we do from here. I'm hoping FCG being gone finally gives the party enough of a push to try and actually stop predathos from waking

robust zealot
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Fcg can't be true resurrected right? Didn't Matt say that due to fcg's actions, his soul isn't available anymore or something like that?

knotty hill
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I didn't hear anything like that. They got pieces of them, but idk

robust zealot
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Maybe I misheard or misunderstood, but I thought Matt had talked about if he does this there's no going back, and Sam made the choice knowing that.

polar falcon
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i think he meant there was no surviving his own self-destruct, like he wouldnt just go unconscious or be able to save out of it

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but who knows how aeormaton souls work r.e. resurrection, could be they cant be brought back or at least brought back in the same way

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something to ask D perhaps

robust zealot
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Ah. Yes, I'm not sure how that race works exactly either overall.

viscid harbor
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What Matt said specifically was "You know what this means, right?" when Sam said he was going to cast the guiding bolt into his chest with only 5 hit points left.

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He cast it at level 4 which means by default, unless you roll all ones and have a bad wisdom modifier, he was going to do more damage than he could take.

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There have been other instances where it was HEAVILY implied that Aeormatons don't have souls in the traditional sense.

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If it could even be done in time, I think the only thing that will bring FCG back is a reincarnation.

robust zealot
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I mean, true resurrection has a 200 year time limit, so I think they got a few days.lol. But that does rely on the targets soul being freely able and willing to return.

viscid harbor
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Exactly.

robust zealot
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And that's where I'm not sure about with the race.

viscid harbor
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And honestly, I think Sam is the kind of player who makes a choice like that and stands by it, you know?

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Sam has, historically, made very difficult decisions with his characters. It's a miracle that this hasn't happened to him before.

robust zealot
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Yea. I think we will probably see a new character more than a resurrected fcg.

viscid harbor
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I think character death is a hard thing to do, but Matt is the kind of DM who makes it clear that it is always an option that the players have to make concious effort to avoid.

robust zealot
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The big question is .. what will his new character be...

viscid harbor
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Especially with this being the third campaign with WAY higher stakes than the previous ones.

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World ending stakes.

sage furnace
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is this the newest episode?

viscid harbor
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I also think that this character death is different than Molly's and Vax's because in the end, the player chose it.

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Yeah

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You are in a channel marked spoilers so you're aware.

sage furnace
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I wanna make sure were talking about the same episode

robust zealot
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So sam's played a bard, rogue, artificer, and a cleric... Wonder what's next...

sage furnace
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same here

robust zealot
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I can't see him playing a barbarian or a fighter right now, probably not another cleric, probably something versatile and flexible. Maybe a ranger or a stars druid.

viscid harbor
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Someone mentioned it would be funny if he started playing Tary.

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Which I doubt will happen

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Because...IDK he's better in one shots.

robust zealot
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Someone asked if he was bringing luc in. Lol

viscid harbor
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👀 Oh no.

polar falcon
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poor, aging Tary must be protected from moon danger

viscid harbor
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Moon danger effects everyone lol

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He can be protected from it, but will he be spared?

sage furnace
viscid harbor
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Sam would be a menace as a Swarmkeeper lol

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He'd just have bees everywhere at all times,

polar falcon
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I thought it might be cool if Sam brought in a repentant ex-vanguard, like a foil to Bordor, someone who actually wishes to reject the kool aide

robust zealot
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Because it's my favorite ranger subclass, I would love to see him play a drake warden.

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Just sam coming to help everyone riding the back of a dragon.

sage furnace
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I love both swarmkeeper ranger and stars druid

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I'm actually playing both.

polar falcon
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man id love a drake warden, but I think Sam dislikes pets? maybe if the drake was more like Doty

robust zealot
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Hmmm... Maybe a fey wanderer.