homebrew

[void jewel]

Super mega concentration breaker gun

[molten wigeon]

to be fair

[frosty lance]

Against the same target it's 1 instance of dmg

[molten wigeon]

it would be quite distracting to be machinegunned but yeah

[frosty lance]

It's not a concentration machine gun XD

[molten wigeon]

you could not target different targets here

[void jewel]

Single target is best.

[molten wigeon]

yeah

otherwise dnd rules kinda croak

homebrew should always try to fit into dnd rules

[void jewel]

Splitting things is fine. Sometimes.

[frosty lance]

So modded gun
BA to prep to fan
A to fan dealing 1d6 +Xd4, 1 attack roll, 1 target

[void jewel]

Eh. It's fine to break em. If you're very confident.

[molten wigeon]

absolutely but its a good goal anyway

[void jewel]

Gotta add new mechanics somehow.

[molten wigeon]

only break them if you have to

it helps ease up the players understanding

[void jewel]

See: if bard magical secrets didn't exist, people would think it's game breaking.

[frosty lance]

I mean my steam mechanic is basically just a reload prop on more than guns and crossbows

[molten wigeon]

bullets better be rare though or this gun is still quite strong

fan the hammer should be a serious consideration

[frosty lance]

It's gonna drain a lot of steam and steam is (for being needed for a lot of steam gear ) expensive

Ammo isn't hard it's the other more necessary resource

Also cause a psion exists in the pc party and wants to use bullets for their version of Eldritch blast

Dex Weapon, Piercing, 50/80 Range, 5(Steam)/Shot, light property, reload ammo/steam can on a bonus action, if dual wielding reload as an action (Both weapons), Active Steam ability as a bonus action prep to fan the hammer for the rest of the shots left dealing 1d6 + xd4 where X is the number of shots fired after the first then action to fan the hammer using 40 steam + total shots fired, Normal dmg 1d6+dex mod

@molten wigeon what do we think?

[molten wigeon]

i still think fan the hammer should add dex

imagine hitting someone with 5 bullets and it deals less damage than a single bullet under the right circumstances

[frosty lance]

I think the DMG is already pretty good

Well the main shot is like lined up and stable fanning is much more "JUST EMPTY THE CHAMBER"

[molten wigeon]

its top damage currently is 5-26

[frosty lance]

For fan?

[molten wigeon]

for the single shot, its 2-11

that just doesnt seem right to me

now of course fan provides more stable damage through multiple dice rolls but in the end, without the dex static, it loses a lot of that stability as well

[frosty lance]

Because fanning isn't stable and consistent

[molten wigeon]

the first shot is

which is still in there

d6+5+5d4 makes more sense to me, considering d6+5 is the default (assuming max dex)

if the dex mod is not applied, i might actually vote that you can split the bullets up after all

[frosty lance]

That's what I was thinking

[molten wigeon]

that way they can at least crit

[frosty lance]

Declaring how many shots and at who then doing dmg

[molten wigeon]

and if you are aiming at multiple people, it really starts making sense to neglect the dex bonus for accuracy

at that point its just a spell, basically

which works for balancing

the only problem is that spell slots are limited. bullets are technically not (in the moment)

its kind of like carrying scorching ray scrolls around with you

[frosty lance]

I think a max of 3 targets 1 instance of dmg each so it doesn't machine gun concentration, no dex mod bonus to DMG, and declaring how many and of which DMG dice are hitting who like 3 targets id go like d6+2d4 on #1 2d4 #2 and the last one with just 1d4 or something like that

[molten wigeon]

that sounds serviceable

[frosty lance]

Okay any other body mods with big up and downsides?

[hollow siren]

reddit

[dull rock]

Hey. I tried making magic items for the first time

Can you give me your toughts

Both of them were inspired by Ambessa's magic resistance stones in Arcane.

1. Runes of counterspelling

A leather rope holding 10 runes. Whenever a magical attack you can use your reaction to use one of the runes and cast a lower version of counterspell. You make an ability check against the spell regardless what level the spell is or if it a cantrip, following the rules in counterspell. Once used the rune breaks into ash and can never be restored again.

2. Runes of shield

A leather rope holding 10 runes. Whenever someone makes a physical attack against you you can use your reaction to use one of the runes and cast a lower verion of the shield spell. Only for the turn of the attacker you gain +5 AC against all of the enemy's attacks on it's turn. Once used the rune crumbles into dust and can never be restored.

Both need attunment. Both can be worn in a way that does not prevent them from using both hands (weather wrapped around your arm, weapon, waist or somewhere else). Bith lose their charges permanently so that they are not too broken.

What do you think?

[spring tusk]

hello evernyan

[dull rock]

How are you. Fine thank you

[spring tusk]

i'm currently working on a statblock for an adult amethyst dragon with a few monk like abilities- namely four elements monk

I intend to offer a deflect attacks/absorb elements style ability, an extra attack or two, and a specialized breath weapon, but what I need to figure out is what CR feels about fair for this statblock, considering its meant to be used by one of my players in an upcoming one shot thats being ran for their birthday

the party in particular is CR 14, and its set in my homebrew world which means I can also make any CR of creature or specific encounter to challenge them if need be,

base adult amethyst dragon is CR 16, base young amethyst dragon is CR 9, so my first thought is somewhere in the middle

i'm just not sure,

[spring tusk]

depends on the rarity of these, but I think mixing the two might be best, and perhaps reducing the power but creating a charges based system

since its meant to be a "lesser version" of shield i'd instead say you can use a rune to impose disadvantage since mathematically adv/disadv is a +5/-5 to a roll anyway, this makes it so you're not stepping on any toes but you're still helping to protect yourself

I do like the "lesser counterspell" forcing a saving throw to counter it no matter the level of the spell, but phrasing wise I think you should include the specific wording of counterspell in the magic item and how the effect is lessened,

and then fit both those abilities into one magic item, give like 8 charges collectively between the two, and have it recharge 1d6 + 2 runes over the course of a long rest

[dull rock]

I honestly don't look at cr. I use it as a guideline and look at the damage it can deal or what resistances it has. I made a homebrew monster, the people here told me i should give it a CR of at least 8 or 10. I did that and my party melted that thing like butter. Some of them almost didn't take damage. I wouldn't look at the CR. Adjust it to your players' abilities. Maybe try testing their abilities against your monster and vice versa to see how it will turn out

[spring tusk]

CR is absolutely still important to look at, I know how to make statblocks,

I'm just not sure what CR I should make the creature, because- again, one of my players is going to be playing it

and I dont want it to be too much stronger than the other players in the party

[spring tusk]

When you tossed that creature against your players, what level were they, and what other creatures were there

[dull rock]

In counterspell all lv 3 or lower spells immediately fail. The rest need an ability check with DC 10+ spell lv to fail the spell. I made it for every spell so that it's not that broken and even lower lv spells can pass trough

[spring tusk]

I get that, it looks cool,

though I will note the stones never let her just cancel a spell, it specifically dissipated magic attacks

[dull rock]

I am planning to throw it against them with 2 separate enemies both having one of those to make them play a little bit smarter.

[spring tusk]

so maybe its just flat out- if a spell attack would hit, you can spend a charge to impose disadvantage on the roll, recharges 1dX charges per dawn

[spring tusk]

gotcha, sounds fun

[dull rock]

Lv5, one other young variant of the same creature but i didn't use it too well. I needed to boost the damage with at least 1 more die

[spring tusk]

are you planning on including any other monsters in that encounter?

boosting damage by a whole die is hefty

what was the CR of the second creature,

and how many players were there

action economy is the most important thing in this game

[dull rock]

I am not trying to make an exact replica. I saw her eating catelyn's rifle shot and tought that i wanted this in dnd to throw against the bard and paladin. To waken them and make them do something else than spam smite or hideous laughter

[spring tusk]

let them spam smite and hideous laughter

what

its what pallys and bards do

big damage and buff/debuff, thats what those two are centered around

challenge your players sure but don't create stuff just to tell your players "nuh uh you can't" that's not cool

[dull rock]

I didn't put one. I just made the adult one's attacks and hp lower and removed the resistances. There were 4 players and one npc. My monsters barely managed to hurt the paladin that's why i wanted to add one more die

[spring tusk]

yeah you need more creatures

you want like 3-5 creatures in an encounter minimum for a party of four

and at level 5?? no wonder they shredded through two CR 8's

[dull rock]

It will beiteraly for one fight. One is great against melle attacks. The other one against magical attacks. Their task is to notoce this and change targets. Or find a way to deplete the runes these guys are wearing. Or use some other methodes like the bard buffing allies or the paladin using his spells. I will definetly not make it a permanent thing. Just this once to change things up and make them strategise. The paladin loves strategies and i want to make it interesting for him

[spring tusk]

even if it's not a permanent thing telling your players "nuh uh no you can't" is never fun

but I get what you're saying, yer just tryna shake things up a bit, I understand ya

[dull rock]

O think they will love it. As i said the paladin loves such strategies. He literaly plays alful on purpose in other table tops to nerf himself because it's too easy.

[dull rock]

Btw the fight was really long. The boss just wasn't hitting hard enough to hurt anyone

[spring tusk]

if you say so

[peak inlet]

Alright, I’m feeling a bit better about this, not sure if others agree.

Seconds

Weapon (rapier), Legendary (requires attunement)

-# The long lost third piece of the time weapon set. While the other two components spread throughout the land, most copies of this weapon, including the original, were lost in time in a prison of their own making.

While you are holding the weapon, you gain the following benefits:

Magic Weapon. The damage die of this weapon is 1d12. Your attacks with this weapon have a +2 bonus to hit and damage. You always go first within your initiative bracket, no matter what you or the other creature’s Dexterity modifier is.

Quickened. As a Bonus Action, you can make a single weapon attack using this weapon, you don’t add your ability modifier to this attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative. The weapon can hold up to 4 charges. When rolling Initiative, you can spend 1 charge to move your initiative up before the creature right ahead of you in the initial count.

Clockwork. This weapon gains 1 Tick after every attack you land against an enemy (up to 4 Ticks); you go back to 0 ticks whenever you exit combat. When an attack gets you to 4 Ticks, you consume them all, gaining 1 charge and turning the triggering attack into a True Strike (using the weapon’s ability modifier as the spell modifier).

Moment. If you are holding this weapon and it has 4 charges, you can sheathe it right before your turn, consuming your charges and casting Time Stop (no action required) lasting 1 round, if you still have 4 charges, you can consume them and extend the effect by 1 more round. Unsheathing the weapon immediately ends the effect. Once this feature is used, it can’t be used again until the next dawn and you can’t gain any charges until the next dawn.

Final Chance. At any point in time, you can get 4 charges, when you do so, you can activate Moment immediately using a Reaction. Until the end of the ongoing combat, you can use Moment without incurring the once per dawn restriction and without stopping you from gaining charges. Once you exit Initiative, this weapon gets sucked into a rift, getting lost in or out of time. Once this feature is used, it can’t be used again until the weapon experiences a new dawn.

[rapid latch]

I'm doing a Ranger Redux with a Beast Companion as part of the base class, should I make this a bullet point under Spellcasting?

Companion Immunity. Your Beast Companion cannot be damaged by by any spell cast by you or by effects created by spells you cast. If your companion becomes Charmed by a hostile creature or otherwise becomes hostile to you, it loses this immunity.

[true forge]

you could prob throw it under spellcasting or the feature were you get the beast

[rapid latch]

That's what I'll do.

[rapid latch]

Do you think there's anything I should change? Is the wording alright?

[true forge]

well, besides the spelling mistake of ypu, looks fine

[rapid latch]

Gotcha, thank you.

[lapis notch]

Any thoughts on this Ancient Time Dragon/Chronurgist Wizard/Artificer BBEG? Is he too cosmically powerful to face, even for a party with literal dragons in it?

Statblock: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ctt8y8xw1t2zwyyi9dryf/Serrithraal.2025-11-07.1.png?rlkey=3etf81uuwf6t897oewyg01ki1&st=572ncc0h&raw=1

P.S. I tried to gate his most broken abilities (those not granted by his subclass or species) behind thematic Artifacts and lair abilities. I used a specific emoji to flag each of those, for easier removal or transfer during play.

The damage types for his elemental breath weapon were taken from the 2e "Avatar of Io" stat block, while some of the features granted by his hourglass Artifact were adapted from the 3.5e "Great Wyrm Time Dragon".

[burnt cipher]

I'm tempted to allow Swarmkeeper to increase their Flying Speed to 20 ft at Level 11 and 30 ft at Level 15. Is this too much?

[peak inlet]

my question for most of this is “why?”

it’s not a player character

crank down the amount of choices there are

2 casts of Wish per day?

7 different Reactions without limited uses but 1 Bonus Action with 1 use

[stuck raptor]

Are some of these supposed to be Legendary Actions/Legendary Reactions?

[stuck raptor]

yeah, an issue with thi statblock is just. Bloat. A lot of these can be turned into Legendary Actions/Reactions, and a lot of these just might need to be cut or somehow incorporated into other actions

[lapis notch]

To be fair, the worst of the bloat is merging a bunch of homebrew items directly into the statblock itself.

Without those, the statblock looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ufe1oxapm6d2so41mu6s8/Serrithraal.2025-11-07.base.png?rlkey=n8rqyfy643dr22nyim7sq05xm&st=gbzvwuh8&raw=1

Most of his base capabilities come from either the Chronurgy Wizard subclass (which I copied faithfully), or the Ancient Time Dragon species (which I adapted to use the 2024 syntax). Though I did also give him Truesight, Telepathy, and the ability to Hover.

Conceptually, this guy is trying to rewrite the entire multiverse to support his insane vision of Chromatic and Metallic dragons being merged into one race. He forged the pair of artifacts used in his statblock—which allow him to bypass both the laws of time and the laws of magic—as components of a larger cosmos-altering machine

As far as gameplay goes, he is supposed to be encountered by the players (in disguise) several times throughout the campaign. I wanted to take into account the possibility that he might help the players through a tough spot at some point.

[peak inlet]

you don’t need to place all the random spells on the statblock, why is Knock a single use but Wish 2 uses?

it doesn’t really make sense

the stars you place in the stat block are the basic ones, the rest is up to you when it comes up whether he has them or not, the players can’t see the stat block

again, he’s not a player character

[lapis notch]

I find it convenient for verisimilitude to treat monsters and players interchangibly, when it comes to class features.

It probably does not help that all my previous experience with D&D is from the 3.5 era. In fact, this character was originally envisioned back then.

[peak inlet]

I have never played 3.5, but that tends to make very difficult to run monsters and very convoluted stat blocks

[stuck raptor]

3.5 did tend to have a lot of bloat i hear...

[lapis notch]

Even 2e and 4e had a lot of bloat. It was not until 5e that WoTC started agressively streamlining both the lore and mechanics of the game.

[lapis notch]

In this case, it is mostly for this one BBEG. The other enemies will typically have one or two features from their supposed class (such as Fighters getting Action Surge and Second Wind).

But for someone who might act as a companion NPC at some point, a bit more detail is warranted.

P.S. Regarding Wish, I also envision him as carrying a bag full of Rings of Three Wishes somewhere on his person. He uses those (which he crafts himself in the distant past every so often) as currency for major magical favors.

I could easily have listed Wish as "At Will" with that lore, but I felt that would be way too broken.

[midnight elk]

I added more to the repurposer cannon:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-96WbW-qx6RVStFXidAy6yG7Wwqn8ToMf4ghICBGzg/edit?usp=sharing

[glad veldt]

I'm thinking about implementing slot based multiclassing.

You can gain up to 20 levels in any class and subclass (need to work on how HP works but so far averaging the HP of all the classes on any given level seems appealing)

And you can switch any class or subclass feature you have unlocked with any you'd normally have of that level or higher (for example if you have a class feature you get at 3rd level you can switch it for a class feature you've already got on that same level or higher)

Thoughts?

[mild cove]

Sounds cool

[midnight zinc]

recently in one of the campaigns im in my fighter character got experimented on and he got vicious mockery through a second mouth that is on the middle of his tongue

i talked with my dm and he lets me use constitution as the DC for it

thing is, the experiment also reduced my constitution from 16 to 14, so my spell save dc is now 8+2+2 (12)

yall think im gonna have any use of vicious mockery? i wanna do something fun with it but im just not sure if its gonna be of much use

[void jewel]

Oof. That's a very unfortunate tradeoff.

Big player nerf.

No, unfortunately viscous mockery is a bait cantrip and is almost never worth the action relative to other things, especially for a martial.

Got your con mod perma-reduced by 1 in exchange for a gold star sticker.

1d6 with cantrip scaling for your whole action and a rider effect that weapon mastery had anyways? I'd strike it off my character sheet, at least that way I won't waste time reading it.

Maybe you'll use it to kill a goblin at 1hp in a social scenario by saying "your mom" which at least has funny value

[scenic urchin]

question for the #homebrew regulars, do you think it could be interesting if we organized an open panel of people here, have folks submit brews to be looked at in the future, and then like the panel would spend an hour together hanging out and giving commentary out on pre-submitted brews in a structured format?

[faint sonnet]

I think this type of thing would work very well, specifically when there's a set criteria to use, which is why I internally have a very precise set I use myself. Without set criteria, feedback can kinda miss the forest for the trees at times, and even end up hostile sometimes.

[loud pasture]

Hey everyone would you guys mind if I throw some ideas around for a monster for my next session

I've done a few homebrew that my players adored but this one needs to be stellar and I wanted to get opinions and input

[rapid latch]

Case by case basis. What does the curse do?

[scenic urchin]

i'm assuming that getting people to supply homebrew to look at will be the easy part and writing up some simple guidelines the panel can agree on will also be easy--- and the hard part will be getting a panel and finding a time slot that works for everyone

[mild cove]

Honestly sound like a really cool idea, most messages just go ignored, so having a ton be replied to would be great

[scenic urchin]

then the real question becomes, who would have the time and energy to join the panel?

[mild cove]

✋

[astral thorn]

So, I'm currently playing a lvl 16 wizard, subclass war magic. My DM gave me an item that I'm trying to find a way to use. It's a staff that in order to attune to it, it takes 1d20 years of being frozen in a time bubble before you fully attune to it. Is there potentially a spell I can use to skip time. Idk if this should go here, but unsure where else.

[amber hollow]

That... sounds neat

[mild cove]

It needs to be frozen? Or just takes 1d20 years

[amber hollow]

to skip forwards in time, as in forwards time travel? Not to my knowledge, so that'd be homebrew. As for waiting it out, Sequester.

[astral thorn]

So, from what my dm told me. Myself and whoever is around me will be frozen in a time bubble, and will be frozen for 1d20 years

[mild cove]

That’s what I was thinking

[astral thorn]

Damn, thanks!

[rapid latch]

Do y'all think all Ranger subclasses should get spells like the Paladin subclasses?

[mild cove]

Do they not in 2024?

[true forge]

sounds like a good idea

[void jewel]

I'm down - besides, I wouldn't mind a panel of people tearing my class apart.

I keep doing that myself every day anyways. I've scrapped the entire thing twice now and restarted.

[faint sonnet]

It's something I've had in mind for a while and even have a set of ideas for how it would work, I just have so many projects going that I could only jumpstart it with the foundations.

[void jewel]

I think it'd be valuable.

Especially because this channel has issues: more problematic content gets more attention. The closer content is to "good", or looks at a glance, the less it gets discussed. Even if there's glaring rules issues or exploits.

[faint sonnet]

The other set of ideas I had was for rules, with the same vein of thought. If there's interest, and it seems there is, I may do some prepwork.

[woven ledge]

When making a cursed item in DnD Beyond, do I include the effects of the curse for my players to see?

The curse calls for the player to roll a d20 after using the item and if they roll a 1, they experience a negative effect in the form of a vision of the dragon the item was crafted from, and the number they have to roll increases each time they use it.

[tepid violet]

what does the vision do?

[void jewel]

Depends. Are they identifying the item? If so, then almost always, unless it's the extremely rare curse that is immune to identify, which is possible.

[woven ledge]

It changes every time. At first it distracts them, causing disadvantage on their next attack. Then the next time, it’s this plus disadvantage on saving throws, then it’s all of that plus some lightning damage. So it gets worse over time.

[tepid violet]

oh cool

[woven ledge]

They identify most things before attuning to them, so I was planning on the curse being revealed after it’s attuned. So only the positive effects would appear on Identify

[void jewel]

Be careful. That can feel scammy. But the vision seems harmless, so no big deal.

[tepid violet]

i feel like the purpose of the identity spell is to see if the item is cursed before attuning so unless the curse is extremely powerful i wouldnt do that

just my thoughts/input though do whatever you want

[void jewel]

Oh. Item quickly becomes worthless.

It's gonna get used a time or two when the consequences are minimal, then thrown in the nearest ditch, unless the benefits are truly amazing.

[woven ledge]

It can only be unattuned with a spell like Remove Curse

I just feel like if I tell them it’s cursed with Identify, they won’t use it at all

[void jewel]

As a player with this, I'd intentionally stall the campaign and just seek out someone who can cast remove curse, doing nothing else.

[tepid violet]

do you want them to use it?

[void jewel]

Or simply never use the item. It's functionally just -1 attunement slot until you find remove curse.

[woven ledge]

I’d like them to. I think it’s a powerful item (essentially it’s a twice a day free smite), but with a fun catch

[void jewel]

You don't HAVE to use it. So just minus a slot. Annoying, but not game changing. Then when you get remove curse, straight in the nearest ditch.

[void jewel]

Smite's a really bad spell.

There's worse, but smites are generally not even worth spell slots, let alone all these downsides.

There's a beyond specific channel here somewhere that can help you

[tidal gazelle]

Ah ok thank you

[void jewel]

Also, this is my reaction as a player to "hey there's this curse, you know nothing about it and can't learn about it with identify, but it gets worse every time. But it can deal some extra damage!"

"Whoa, I'm never using this, and getting rid of it as soon as possible"

If it requires experimenting, sure. But you can't afford to experiment, since it gets worse every time it's far too big of a risk to take

You have no idea where the line stops.

[tepid violet]

try and add some story necessity to it like for example the vision gives you a quest and you need to keep getting visions to continue the quest

[woven ledge]

I was also planning on the extra damage increasing over time as well, as the PC adapts to the visions of the dragon in its head. Plus I felt like it opened up some interesting role play opportunities

[void jewel]

True, but it shouldn't be plot relevant, since the PCs could just go "nah" and never use it

[tepid violet]

ah true

[woven ledge]

It’s not. I’m going to add the item in, I’m just debating how far to take the curse and when to reveal that to them. Like they find out it’s cursed and it’s limits/effects through experimentation

[void jewel]

Disadvantage on all saves is pretty bad. It'd need a massive amount of extra damage, even at step 2.

[void jewel]

Depends who your players are. I have a very unique DMing style. Enemy health numbers are visible, their AC is known at all times, and I open roll every single roll. I think this builds a foundation of trust.

Hiding mechanics from my players isn't something I, personally, do. I hide narrative. But I don't hide mechanics.

And my players have expressed they like this. Maybe some other players wouldn't. Depends.

I also read the exact text of enemy abilities when they become relevant.

[latent island]

Im planning on having one of my players magical weapons undergo a “evolution” where it wraps around him and becomes a suit of armor for him. This is the weapon for reference:

Entcrusher (Greataxe, Rare, requires attunement by an Aura user): "A mighty axe, made from a branch of the Tree of Life. Once wielded by a guardian of the grove, it calls out to you ready to be wielded once more."

• You have a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls made with this magical weapon.
• Entcrusher has 3 charges. All expended charges are regained at dawn.
  • When you hit a target with an attack, you can expend one charges to conjure roots and vines to hold them down. The target must make a DC 15 STR save or be restrained by the entangling plants. The target can use an action to remake it's STR save to escape.
  • When you hit a target with an attack, you can use a bonus action to expend two charges to curse them. The target must make a DC 15 CON save or have thorns begin to fester in their wounds. At the beginning of the targets turn, they take 1d6 piercing damage as the thorns grow into their wounds. This curse lasts for 1 minute and can be ended by a "Remove Curse" spell.
  • As an action you can spend 3 charges to slam the earth with all your might, causing vines to grow around you in a 10 foot circle centered on you. Creatures of your choice in that radius must make a DC 15 DEX save or take 1d12 + STR bludgeoning damage on a fail or half as much on a success as the vines lash out.

Does anyone have any ideas for ways I could implement this? For reference the players are level 5

[true forge]

well

did a poll on what Pact Boon should i make

and well, one is winning by one

Pact of the Staff, Pact of the Whip and Pact of the Idol

you can kinda guess what each to lol (more magic, whip and support)

[scenic urchin]

yay--- so best way I know of to keep momentum on a thing is to give it a snappy name (my weakness), and then start writing down folks who are interested, and write down some basics as well so that its easier to share the idea

[true forge]

honesty same

Wordsmith is abit, weird with some stuff so :P

[hasty onyx]

2dn ability, add a way to end the curse at the start or end of each turn. either another con save, or a str save to rip out the thorns (and maybe take two or three rounds of minor bleed damage.)

[faint sonnet]

I mentioned to Whisper that I basically already had an idea akin to this and this gives me an impetus to work on it, especially because the other aspect of my idea was focused around game rules, so it would be dual purpose.

[scenic urchin]

if you've got the time to work on it, sure, it'd be better for sure to not recreate what already exists

[sacred current]

Can I have some help reviewing a spell I made?

Power Word Actually
1st level Enchantment
Casting Time: 1 reaction, when a creature within 60 feet of you makes an ability check or attack roll
Range: 60 feet
Components: V
Duration: Instantaneous
_ _
You speak a word of power that frustratingly enlightens the creature on how to do better. The creature is forced to make a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, the creature automatically fails the ability check or attack roll it was making.

If the creature is an ally and fails the saving throw, you can choose to make the ability check with advantage, allowing the creature to use your roll.
If the creature was making an attack roll and succeeds on the saving throw, it makes the attack roll with disadvantage.
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Classes: Bard, Wizard

[hasty onyx]

to strong

[sacred current]

Which part of it is too strong?

[void jewel]

Eh it's not bad. Initially I misread but this is actually underpowered if anything

A spell slot and a reaction to possibly prevent one attack roll is pretty meh. And the ability check thing is niche.

You say "saving throw" but the reaction tag isn't for saving throws

So I'm going to assume saving throw is in error

If it DOES let you roll allies saves, then it's far too powerful

[sacred current]

The saving throw mentioned is from this spell

[scenic urchin]

it has a wisdom save attached to it

if you use it on an ally, they auto fail their ability check, but you can use your ability check to substitute

its like differently shaped silvery barbs

[sacred current]

Would it be overpowered if instead of attack rolls it triggered on attacks?

[scenic urchin]

i don really like 1st level reaction spells, too scarred by shield and absorb elements and silvery barbs

[sacred current]

This would give it a niche where it could potentially cause guaranteed hits from Paralyzed and Unconscious to miss instead

[rapid hamlet]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/species/2033921-burning-undead

Made this for a monster girl dnd campaign a player wanted to play a flaming undead creature

[acoustic apex]

does anyone have any advice for creating there own system?

[void jewel]

@faint sonnet this one wants to speak with you

See above

[lethal cedar]

Sick pfp

[acoustic apex]

thnks

[acoustic apex]

huh?

[stuck raptor]

Like their own entire system? Probably not a topic for this channel ngl

[faint sonnet]

1. Plan everything, lest you get sidetracked and end up unsure of where to go next.
2. Take meticulous notes, lest you get confused about what you meant to do when you originally wrote something.
3. Challenge your own assumptions, as you will get stuff wrong on the first, second, third, fourth, times you do it.
4. Set fair but achievable goals so that you can actually get stuff done and feel accomplishment.

[acoustic apex]

ok, so far im just kinda taking parts of other systems and merging them or using them as a base for the parts im not excited to make. i guess saving my energy for the part i wanna do. ive also been taking detours to lore and worldbuilding if i start to feel burnt out

its a super heros system

[peak inlet]

you could usually just use the Help Action for that second effect

Shield and Silvery Barbs already cover the attack roll parts but better

1st level Reactions are plenty

you could do an unconventional thing and make this a Cantrip giving an ability check advantage or disadvantage as a Reaction

but you’re still usually using the Help Action

[wet yarrow]

Usually you want to work backwards from your biggest bridges when you're making a system. 5e is a good example.

First you pick a dice. 20 resolutions on one dice, 5% increments, that sets the nuance you can have to your resolution. Set up 3 D20 tests. Your Dice VS Their Number. Your Dice VS Their Dice. Your number VS their Dice. Now you have a kind of engine.

Most of the calculations from things like AC, HP, and by extension damage dealt, are based also on how high or low a d20 can go. Tear apart 5e, look at what each part does and what its connected to, then ask yourself if that system exists and how it exists in your own.

[lofty basin]

Planning on running a 2024 campaign for some friends, but the new Ranger is really bad, so does anyone know any interesting Revised version of the class for 2024?

[peak inlet]

I don’t have a full Ranger revision, but I do have this

it’s a Ranger Optional Feature that tries to make Hunter’s Mark a usable spell even after you hit higher levels

it doesn’t make it OP, so you can still use other spells, but it makes it less bad to use (at least that’s the hope)

(there are some feats and magic items in the same document after all the Ranger things, you can ignore those)

[peak inlet]

Does this work well? (Offensive Duelist is a HB feat for the Dueling Fighting Style)

Master Duelist

General Feat (Prerequisite: Level 8+, Offensive Duelist or Defensive Duelist feat)

Ability Score Increase. Increase your Dexterity or Strength score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
En Garde. If you aren’t holding a shield, you gain a +1 bonus to your AC and +1 to your damage using melee weapons that are held in one hand.
Riposte. If you used a Reaction against a creature that made a melee attack against you and missed this turn, you may make a melee weapon attack against the attacker (no action required). This feature can be used a number of times equal to your Proficiency Bonus, regaining all your expended uses when you finish a Long Rest.

[true forge]

Pact of the Whip

As a bonus action, you can summon an otherworldly whip to your hands. This whip is referred to as your Pact Whip, which uses your Charisma modifier for attack and damage rolls and can deal necrotic, radiant or thunder damage on a hit (your choice when you deal damage). You are proficient while you weld it and when you cast a warlock spell that requires an action to cast, you can make a weapon attack roll with this whip as a bonus action. Only one Pact Whip can be summoned at any given time.

If you have a magical whip, you can, over the course of a short rest, bind it to your soul, which makes it act as your Pact Whip. You can revert this by doing another ritual over the course of a short rest.

When you make a weapon attack roll with this whip, you can instead do one of the following effects instead.

Disarm. You can attempt to disarm a target of their weapon or item they are holding. The target must make a Dexterity saving throw against your spell save DC. On a fail, a weapon or item is separated from the targets and magically appears in your hands. This effect can happen once per round.

***Bind. ***You attempt to cause the whip to ensnare the target. The target must make a Strength saving throw against your spell save DC. on a fail, the creature is Grappled. The target can remake the saving throw at the end of their next turn/s.

Your Pact Whip disappears if it is more than 5 feet away from you for 1 minute or more. It also disappears if you use this feature again, if you dismiss the weapon (no action required), or if you die.

well, making this

[sacred current]

Maybe you could reword Riposte this way? (To make it less convoluted)

When you use a Reaction to target a creature that made a melee attack against you and missed this turn, you can make a melee weapon attack against the creature as part of the reaction.

Otherwise it is balanced well

[peak inlet]

yeh, the wording was annoying me

I think I like your wording

it does open up the ability to attack if the creature used a ranged attack that you used a Reaction against then comes over to melee attack you and misses

but honestly, I don’t think it matters that this is allowed

wait, it does say “as part of the same Reaction” so I guess it doesn’t

[peak inlet]

is this 2014 or 2024?

[true forge]

2014

[peak inlet]

I feel like it can just be an Invocation with Pact of the Blade requirement

[true forge]

PotB is so bad in 2014 its not funny

[peak inlet]

then make it so as Homebrew you use the 2024 PotB in general

[primal osprey]

Yeah it hurts

But not the enemy

It hurts the user

[peak inlet]

because what’s the point of it in the 2014 state?

also, it makes it so you can get the other invocations with PotB prereqs

add a designer note saying this is intended to be used while replacing Pact of the Blade’s effect with the 2024 version

[true forge]

im not making it to replace in game, this serves a general purpose other then attacking, control

[true forge]

nope, its getting options to help you control the enemy better, like an invocation this will get is push/pull and a save or be prone (the same invo)

[peak inlet]

that’s not what I was trying to say, I’m saying you can add a Designer’s Note which tells people who use it how you intended it to work, and then make it an Invocation instead of a Pact

it’s just too similar to PotB and PotB can also create a whip

[true forge]

uh, no?, tbh if this were a PotB thing it would be weaker

[peak inlet]

making a whole new pact, you can make it a non-weapon item that you attach to weapons or something

[peak inlet]

it’s 2024 PotB except for the last part and the whip limitation

[true forge]

yeah so?

2014 PotB can stay as it is, this is its own thing

[peak inlet]

so, just make it an invocation to be used with 2024 PotB replacement in 2014

you’re still making a weapon, it’s not a different pact

[true forge]

thats more for damage, this is more for other things like support via control

[peak inlet]

then don’t make it a weapon

give it more control options

have it be something completely different

[true forge]

it will, via invocations

[true forge]

like what?

[peak inlet]

Ruby of the War Mage attaches to weapons, Eldritch Tattoos give you 15 foot reach for specific actions

[true forge]

this isnt a magic item

[peak inlet]

technically, the pacts that exist are all magic items or creatures

you can make it so it’s a tentacle in your shadow

[true forge]

you give you options to disarm, push/pull, prone ect ect, basically, a control based pact boon

thats the thing i gave to somebody in a different server

[peak inlet]

or your hands turn into tendrils

[true forge]

tell me, can PotB to any of that? no, it cant

(it can prone but besides the point)

[peak inlet]

those can almost all be done using unarmed strikes

[sacred current]

Is PotW a specialised whip-related feature while PotB is a more general-ish thing in comparison?

[true forge]

basically

[true forge]

yeah, but no warlock is going to punch a thing

[sacred current]

If so, then maybe you could mention (in a footnote) that those who want more stuff with whips can use this instead of PotB

[peak inlet]

they will when their punches have 15 foot reach and can apply those effects

[true forge]

eldritch claw tattoo is horrid on warlocks

and anyway, whats seperating that from a whip?

5 more range?

more damage?

[peak inlet]

literally just the fact that it isn’t the full PotB with extra stuff

[true forge]

thats the point.....

[lofty basin]

Many thanks

[true forge]

why would i give PotB a option for control? it for 1, doesnt fit, 2, makes it worse

[peak inlet]

make it 20 feet, give it the extra damage, but this changes the interactions and build tree

[peak inlet]

because that is literally exactly what you did

[true forge]

just because it looks like PotB doesnt mean it is

if that were the case, this would be 10x more boring

[sacred current]

PotB and PotW don't need to be the same thing just because they have a lot of similarities

[true forge]

but its not, this is widely different to PotB in many ways, its just the base Pact Boon, if its similar to another, so what?

[true forge]

at base yes, i agree

but i havent even started on the invocations

thats were it splits off into its own, unqiue thing

[sacred current]

It is, yes, but that has changed its identity so being a bit more specific in control. It won't mesh well with PotB's theme of weapon-using

[true forge]

thats what i said

[true forge]

right here

[peak inlet]

I don’t agree with it being a full separate thing, it could be a subcategory of PotB if you have a bunch of similar stuff like that for example, but it’s not distinct enough from PotB to be completely separate

you’re still benefiting from extra attacks using this, it doesn’t use a full action for the control effects

it’ll still be a specialized PotB and not a separate Pact

[sacred current]

This is without looking at the specific Invocations, so maybe those might make it more unique

[peak inlet]

it doesn’t really matter what invocations it has, it’s still a specialized PotB because your Pact item is a weapon

if you make a special summon pact, it will still be PotC

[true forge]

what about Pact of the Trigger? that one very popular homebrewed pact boon

its a gun based one

"oh sorry, PotB has a ranged weapon invocation"

[peak inlet]

yeah, I think it should’ve been done differently

I still don’t agree with it being a separate Pact

idk which one you’re talking about, but the one I actually don’t mind as much is the one that doesn’t have the other effects of PotB and just has a full host of separate different effects

in the Pact itself

yes it makes a weapon, but the weapon doesn’t gain all the benefits of PotB but it’s a gun

[sacred current]

At the end of the day, it's still homebrew. It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to fit every criteria or rule

[peak inlet]

I mean yeh, I was just giving my opinion in the end

I disagree with it

but you’re not forced to do what I prefer

[sacred current]

Level 1 Inchoate Flesh feature
Destabilized Soma
The magic in your body has made your form unstable, but more enduring. At 1st level, your hit point maximum increases by 1 and increases by 1 again whenever you gain a level in this class.

Your body is also much more malleable under your will. While you are not wearing any armor, your Armor Class equals 10 + your Constitution modifier + your Charisma modifier.

Making a shapeshifting (body horror themed) sorc subclass. Would this feature be too strong if I were to add a natural weapon to it?

[peak inlet]

it’s already the full first Draconic Sorcery feature

adding Natural Weapons to it would count as just a ribbon feature though

[sacred current]

Yes, but this is a more melee oriented subclass (kinda like Bladesinger)

This is the 6th level feature btw

Starting at 6th level, you can attack twice, instead of once, when you take the Attack action on your turn. Moreover, you can cast one of your cantrips in place of one of those attacks.
Also, when you make a melee spell attack using a Sorcerer spell and deal damage to a creature, you can choose to gain temporary hit points equal to the spell's level + your Charisma modifier.

This is the 6th level feature btw

[peak inlet]

then I would say you should probably remove the HP increase for Natural Weapons

what I did for a similar situation is I just gave free uses concentration-free of Alter Self

you have Alter Self prepared, can cast it CHA times without expending a spell slot. When used in this way, the duration is reduced to 1min but it doesn’t require concentration.

you can also make it so it activates with Innate Sorcery and give it extra stuff from Innate Sorcery if you’re doing 2024

but if you just want the natural weapons, you can just swap the extra HP for the Natural weapons as well

[sacred current]

The 10th level feature allows you to fuse with other creatures to share hp (among other stuff) or absorb dead creatures for thp and is still in progress

14th level feature is probably going to be conc-free Alter Self at will

18th level feature will enhance the 10th level feature

[sacred current]

Yeah that sounds good

[stuck raptor]

Thoughts on this magic item a player of mine made?

Tactician's Robe
Wondrous Item, legendary (requires attunement by a spellcaster)

These silver and purple robes are bulky and supported by protective runes woven into it by powerful spellcasters.

These robes have 20 charges.

You gain these benefits while wearing the robe.

Protective Aura. Creatures of your choice within a 30ft emanation of you gain a bonus to their AC and saving throws equal to your half of your spellcasting modifier (rounded up). 

Reactionary Advantage. You gain an additional Reaction you can use. This additional Reaction can only be used to perform an option from the Rebuke feature on these robes.

Rebuke. When another allied creature within your Protective Aura takes damage, you can use your reaction to use one of the following options.

- Escape: You can expend a 1st level or higher spell slot, or 1 charge from the robes, to cause them to teleport to an unoccupied space you can see within 60ft of their current position. They gain your Protective Aura benefits even if they are not within range until the end of your next turn.

- Absorption: You can expend a 3rd level or higher spell slot, or 3 charges from the robes, to cause them to take half damage instead. Before the end of the creatures next turn, when they roll a damage die, they can add the damage prevented by this feature to that damage die, adding your spellcasting modifier to the total.

- Redirect: You can expend a 4th level or higher spell slot, or 4 charges from the robes, to instead cause the damage taken to be redirected at another creature of your choice within 30ft of the allied creature. The allied creature takes no damage, and the other creature you choose within range must make a Constitution saving throw, taking the full amount of prevented damage, plus your spellcasting modifier, as force damage on a failure, half on success. 

- Rescue: If the creature that was damaged would be reduced to 0 hit points you can expend a 5th level or higher spell slot, or 5 charges from the robes, to instead cause them to be dropped to 1 hit point and regain 5d8 hit points, adding your spellcasting modifier to the total. 

Regaining Charges. The Robes regain 2d8+4 expended charges daily at dawn. If you expend the last charge, roll 1d20. On a 1, the robes become mundane, losing all magical properties and become the Fine Clothes item. On a 20, the robes regain 1d8+2 charges.```

[coral merlin]

Ball lightning

5th-level Evocation
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: 60 feet
Components: V, S
Duration: Until the start of your next turn

You conjure a sphere of crackling lightning and hurl it toward a foe.
Choose one creature you can see within range. The target must make a Dexterity saving throw, taking 8d8 lightning damage on a failed save or half as much on a success.

Until the start of your next turn, the sphere remains in play, bouncing with divine energy.
At the end of each creature’s turn, you cause the sphere to bounce to another creature of your choice within 40 feet of its current target. The new target must make a Dexterity saving throw, taking 4d8 lightning damage on a failed save or half as much on a success.

A creature can’t be chosen as the sphere’s target on consecutive turns. The sphere vanishes at the start of your next turn or when no creatures are in range for a bounce.

At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 6th level or higher, the initial damage and each leap’s damage increase by 1d8 for each slot level above 5th.

Should maybe add a clause that if no other creatures are in range for a bounce the spell fizzles

Also should say choose not you can choose to make that more clear

[opal trail]

It can deal 4d8 for each turn before the start of your next turn, bouncing between two of your enemies. It's too powerful and just not a standard for D&D imo.

I would rather see it be something like flaming sphere where you can send a sphere, and then creatures of your choice, up to 3 or something, withing range where it stops need to make a dex save or take that 4d8 damage.

So something more like:

5th-level Conjuration
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: 60ft, (5ft radius)
Components: V, S
Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute.

You conjure a sphere of crackling lightning and hurl it towards an unoccupied space within range. You can choose a number of creatures within 20ft of the sphere, up to your spellcasting modifier, to zap with lightning. Each creature you choose must make a Dexterity saving throw or take 4d8 lightning damage, half on a success. 

As a Bonus Action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you move a sphere into a creatures space, that creature makes the save against the sphere as if it was zapped by it, and the sphere stops moving for the turn. When the sphere stops moving, you can cause the sphere to zap creatures of your choice with lightning. 

Using a Higher-Level Spell Slot. The damage increases by 1d8 for each spell slot level above 2.```

[coral merlin]

No I dislike that. It’s supposed to sit somewhere around chain lightning and reward tactical players in high enemy count situations. The more enemies the better the spell. The better at positioning the more likelihood it keeps bouncing. Making it the same cookie cutter thing that already existing isn’t what I’m going for

Target the wrong creature who runs out of range and boom the spell fizzles. Target the right creatures in the right order and situation and it gets more value. Unique mechanically and situational

[opal trail]

I mean now that I see they can't be a target again, it is fairer, but if you're fighting a ton of enemes, 40ft is a long distance and your allies turns, your allies summoned creatures turns, etc, all come into play here. You can essentially deal 12d8 to one creature and 4d8 to as many creatures as there are turns, quite easily. Long as you have half a brain that is.

*is a long distance, damn my brain this morning

[coral merlin]

Right that’s true but enemies with half a brain would spread out seeing a ball of lightning bouncing around also. It also only gets good value against large mobs early in combat rounds. So again there is a built in limiter. Not gonna help you against a solo boss very much unless he’s surrounded by minions. Effectively it would have to bounce to 8 targets as a level 6 spell to do the same damage as chain lightning. I would like to assume in 8 turns assuming initiative most DMs would spread their bad guys out

It requires a player to stay engaged the entire round and forecast their jumps planning for movement and such. I had it written as 30 originally but then that’s average movement assuming they were right on top of each other when the fight started your spell fizzles. Gives some more counter play. Still can be cancelled by dispel magic and smart enemies

It needs to be play tested but I did run the damage numbers and a 5th level fireball hitting 3 enemies does roughly the same amount as hitting 4-5 with ball lightning from what I estimated

I could probably shorten the distance if anything but I feel pretty good about the damage numbers and mechanics overall

[rotund dirge]

If you guys were to make a Demigod in D&D, would you make it a Species, a Class or a Subclass (or multiple subs for different classes)?

[stuck raptor]

Not a player option

[coral merlin]

I literally have a demigod class written

[rotund dirge]

Why

[stuck raptor]

bit too MC-ish for my taste

[rotund dirge]

I was thinking of the Examplar class from Pathfinder

[stuck raptor]

I dont play PF

[coral merlin]

I’m writing a whole Olympic themed book and basically have it finished

[rotund dirge]

I think players with Main Character Syndrome are gonna act like a MC regardless of the class lol

[stuck raptor]

have you checked out Theros perchance?

[rotund dirge]

Yeah

[rotund dirge]

That's cool as heck

[coral merlin]

Here I can post what I got so far. That’s where the ball lightning spell comes from

[rotund dirge]

There are a few Greek Mythology third party books but they are more like "what if D&D but similar to Greek Mythology?" instead of "what if D&D but in literal Ancient Greece?"

[coral merlin]

4 subclasses. Spawn of Zeus, Spawn of Poseidon, Spawn of Hades and (not a demigod technically) but spawn of titans

[rotund dirge]

I was thinking of making a subclass for each D&D class (including Artificer) for each of the 12 Olympian Gods + Hades

[stuck raptor]

i mean, literal ancient greece was just like any other nation at that time

[coral merlin]

Demigod core class

Primary Abilities - Strength or Dexterity and Intelligence.

Hit point dice - D10 per Demigod level

Saving throw proficiencies - Dex and Wis

Skill proficiencies - choose two skills from Acrobatics, Arcana, History, Insight, Investigation, Perception, Persuasion, or Religion.

Weapons proficiencies - Simple and Martial weapons

Armor training - light and medium armor and shields

(Level 1) Weapon Mastery - As a student of war you have come to find the beauty in studying a weapon to its fullest potential. Your training with weapons allows you to use the mastery properties of two kinds of Simple or Martial Melee weapons of your choice.

Whenever you finish a long rest you can practice weapon drills and change one of those weapon choices.

When you reach certain Demigod levels, you gain the ability to use the mastery properties of more kinds of weapons, as shown in the Weapon Mastery column of the Demigod Features table.

(Level 1) Spellcasting -

(Level 1) Divine Mark - You learn the Sight of Olympians spell and always have it prepared. It doesn’t count against the number of spells you can prepare. You can cast it a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus without expending a spell slot, and you regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.

When you use Sight of the Olympians against a creature, you mark them for 1 minute. While a creature is marked by your Sight of Olympians, your weapon attacks against that creature deal an extra 1d4 cold, fire, lightning, or necrotic damage (your choice when you gain this feature). You can only have 1 creature marked at a time. This damage increases as you gain levels as shown in the Demigod table.

(Level 2) Fighting Style - You gain a Fighting Style feat of your choice (see chapter 5). Instead of choosing one of those feats, you may also choose one of the options below.

Windcarver - When you move at least 10 feet before making a melee weapon attack, you gain a +1 bonus to the attack roll. After you make an attack in this way, the creature or creatures you attacked can’t make opportunity attacks against you for the rest of the turn.

Aegis Style - while holding a shield, when a weapon attack hits you, you can use your reaction to attempt to deflect the blow toward another creature of your choice within 5 feet of you (other than the attacker). Compare the original attack roll to the new target’s AC. If the roll would hit that creature, you and that creature each take half the attack’s damage (of the same type). If the roll would miss, you take half the attack’s damage, and the other creature takes none.

Relentless Wrath - When you reduce a hostile creature to 0 hit points with a weapon attack, you can immediately make one additional weapon attack as part of the same action. You can make only one additional attack per turn in this way.

Relentless Wrath - When you reduce a hostile creature to 0 hit points with a weapon attack, you can immediately make one additional weapon attack as part of the same action. You can make only one additional attack per turn in this way.

(Level 2) Clever Correction - Your sharp wit shines when you find yourself in an unfamiliar situation.

When you fail an ability check using a skill in which you are not proficient, you can draw upon your godly intellect to reassess your approach. You may reroll the check, adding your Intelligence modifier to the new roll. You must use the new result, even if it’s lower.

You can use this feature a number of times equal to your intelligence modifier, and you regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.

(Level 3) Olympic Lineage - Subclass

(Level 4) Ability Score Increase - You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat (see chapter 5) or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at Demigod levels 8, 12, and 16.

(Level 5) Extra Attack - You can attack twice instead of once whenever you take the Attack action on your turn.

(Level 5) Reposition - When you roll initiative you may immediately move up to your movement speed.

(Level 6) Critical Revelation - Your weapon attacks can critically strike on a 19-20 roll. Additionally when you critically strike a creature you may use your Divine Mark feature without expanding a charge against that creature. If the creature you critically struck is already marked you may instead use it against another creature in range. You can have up to two creatures marked at a time.

(Level 7) Subclass feature

(Level 8) Ability Score Increase - You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat (see chapter 5) or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at Demigod levels 12, and 16.

(Level 9) Clever Resolve - When you fail a saving throw for which you are not proficient, you can draw upon your godly intellect to resist. You may reroll the saving throw, adding your Intelligence modifier to the new roll. You must use the new result, even if it’s lower.

You can use this feature a number of times equal to your Intelligence modifier, and you regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.

(Level 10) - Echo of Ascendance Your mortal form can no longer contain the fullness of your godly spark. You learn to project a radiant echo of your ascendant self.

As an action, you manifest an ethereal echo of yourself in an unoccupied space you can see within 60 feet. The echo lasts for 10 minutes or until you dismiss it as a bonus action. It is intangible, invulnerable, and sheds bright light in a 10-foot radius and dim light for another 10 feet. You can manifest it twice per long rest.

While the echo exists:
Awe or Dread. When you create the echo, choose Awe or Dread. Creatures of your choice that start their turn within 30 feet of it must make a Wisdom saving throw (DC = 8 + PB + Int). On a failure, they are charmed (Awe) or frightened (Dread) until the end of their next turn.

All-Seeing Reflection. You can see and hear through the echo as if in its space. It has advantage on Perception, Insight, and Investigation checks, and you can use its results. Hidden or invisible creatures within 30 feet of it are faintly outlined to your sight.

One Will. You can move the echo up to 30 feet as a bonus action and speak through it in your own voice.

(Level 11) Subclass feature

(Level 12) Ability Score improvement

(Level 13) Greater Revelation - As a bonus action, you can call upon the insight granted by your Divine Mark, momentarily revealing your foe’s vitality. You instantly discern the creature’s current hit point standing, as with your Sight of Olympians spell, and until the end of your turn, you have advantage on all attack rolls you make against that creature.

You can use this feature a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus, regaining all expended uses when you finish a long rest.

[stuck raptor]

might be better to send a link

[coral merlin]

(Level 14) Unshakeable Resolve - Your uncanny endurance and intellect allow you to remain unbroken in battle. You gain advantage on Constitution saving throws.

In addition, when you make a Constitution saving throw to maintain concentration on a spell or ability, you can add your Intelligence modifier to the roll.

You can use this benefit a number of times equal to your Constitution modifier (minimum of once), and you regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.

(Level 15) Subclass feature -

(Level 16) Ability Score Improvement -

(Level 17)

[rotund dirge]

Indeed

[coral merlin]

Since I haven’t finished it I don’t have it on Google Docs yet but yes for future

I’m finishing the capstone features today most likely. Still needs playtesting

[stuck raptor]

i mean, it still better to send as a link even if its not finished.

[coral merlin]

I don’t have a link as I just said

[stuck raptor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coral merlin]

It’s literally typed in my notes app

[stuck raptor]

nothing is stopping you from CRTL + C

[coral merlin]

Nothing is stopping you from being kinder either

[rotund dirge]

I know, I just mean like, those books have a setting that is very similar to Greek Mythology (like Theros) instead of the actual thing

Sometimes I just want to play like a Barbarian who worships Ares, not Path of the Raging Ocean Barbarian based on the god Undyne who is married to Selune, goddess of Moon (made up)

[coral merlin]

I have a path of the war god subclass

[stuck raptor]

Oh ic what you mean

[coral merlin]

I’ll send in message as to not upset this one here if you wanna check it out

[stuck raptor]

you want the actual peeps

[rotund dirge]

Yeah, the actual stuff

[stuck raptor]

i typically just reflavored the theros piety

Like, Mogis works for Ares

[rotund dirge]

That seems fitting XD

[coral merlin]

I sent you a message with the subclass for you to check out !

[old mural]

I found a way to make an artificer on dnd beyond without paying for Tasha’s cauldron of everything

[stuck raptor]

that sounds a bit too close to piracy there mate

[old mural]

They have an artificer in the premade characters section of the character creator. All you have to do is rewrite the whole character sheet except for the class

[stuck raptor]

Oh

[old mural]

Im not gonna do piracy. But exploiting loopholes is fair game

[rotund dirge]

Doesn't that also lock you into the specific subclass from the sheet (that is, if it does have one)?

[stuck raptor]

ye, Vi is stuck as an artillerist

[old mural]

Yeah but you still get an artificer

[finite swan]

(The most fun subclass anyway)

I kid, I like the armor one

[stuck raptor]

sad battle smith lover noises

[burnt cipher]

I want to make a Necrotic-themed Ranger Subclass, and decided to make the Conclave of the Reaper:

Through your travels across the world, you’ve gained an appreciation towards the circle of life… and a distaste to those who would dare pervert it. Whether they be of undeath or immortality, creatures refusing to die must be slain before the world falls to them.

Level 3

Subclass Spells (Ranger Level - Spell):

3 - Cause Fear
5 - Gentle Repose
9 - Bestow Curse
13 - Death Ward
17 - Enervation

Bond with Death:

Your desire to preserve the circle of life give you a kinship with the Death itself, granting you a number of Benefits:
You gain the Toll the Dead, Spare the Dying, and Enfeebling Hand Cantrips
You gain Graveland as a Favoured Terrain and Undead as a Favoured Enemy
Spells you cast against and Status Effects you inflict on Favoured Enemies ignore Creature-specific Condition Immunities (Undead are now affected by Cause Fear).
Creatures that are brought to 0 Hit Point while targeted by Hunter’s Mark cannot be Resurrected or turned Undead by a Spell of a lower Level. Attempts to do so with the same or greater Spell Level must beat your Spell Save DC.

[coral merlin]

Spells you cast and status effect you inflict ignore creature specific immunities is strong. I would either make it so it takes them from immune to resistant or make that effect apply only to hunters mark targets

[burnt cipher]

How do you resist a Condition?

[coral merlin]

Advantage on save

Honestly would just be cleaner and more class specific to do against hunters mark and gives it more uses since it’s a useless as spell at higher levels anyways

[midnight elk]

I added more to the repurposer cannon. Can someone take a look?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-96WbW-qx6RVStFXidAy6yG7Wwqn8ToMf4ghICBGzg/edit?usp=sharing

[midnight elk]

Also, there's a hidden warning

[burnt cipher]

Already got that covered for base Ranger rework.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PRDOQP9joSpziabdLoYt4MKEbhRvvjWdP_dPQVP_pNo/edit?usp=sharing

[coral merlin]

Ok I didn’t know you were using an augmented version of the class even still I would say keeping it in line with class specific features helps or you could even say again favored enemies in this case

[topaz imp]

Alright new project for you all

Stat this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272601143968796763/1437149015379542036/RDT_20251109_1336155393611602997180500.jpg?ex=691230d2&is=6910df52&hm=195574e5bde712c06de5e81edea4256366bac2a80f66a5578d6406b10d6a0ea8&

Is this an elemental? A spell?

[arctic solar]

Probably an elemental im not sure though.

[rotund dirge]

That's definitely something I wouldn't want to see IRL

[arctic solar]

You look out from the rightmost window of the inn to see lightning crackling like never before. You dont know the source, but its getting closer.

[native grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DnDHomebrew/comments/1miakdn/sea_twister_conclave_ranger_subclass/

This is a link to a homebrew ranger subclass i made. I was wondering if the drain moisture ability is too weak

should i buff the drain moisture effect?

[stuck raptor]

Elder Tempest

[pliant pagoda]

Hows this as a concept for a feat?

Critical Line

+1 to Dex/Con/Str

When you achieve a critical success on a D20 roll, the closest ally to you can spend their reaction to automatically achieve a critical success on their next D20 roll within 1 minute. When an ally within 30 feet achieves a critical success, you may spend your reaction to automatically achieve a critical success on their next D20 roll within 1 minute. This effect cannot stack, and critical successes granted by this feat cannot be used to reactivate the feat.

I was thinking it might be a bit too powerful in some cases, so it would instead automatically grant a 19 on the next roll instead of a 20

[finite swan]

Well, this feat would allow the cleric to critically hit with, say, Guiding Bolt, for what it's worth

[pliant pagoda]

Is that an observation or a problem, im not familiar with clerics

[finite swan]

Just an observation. It's a first level spell that does 4d6 damage, so 8d6 on a crit

[burnt cipher]

Continuing from this

Level 7

Reaper's Mark

When you cast Hunter’s Mark on a Favoured Enemy, you can forgo the 1st Spell Level’s additional Damage and prevent the Creature from Healing. If cast at 2nd Level or higher, you still deal the additional Damage from that Level. The Healing Prevention can be removed if the Creature uses Remove Curse or similar Spell, but it will revert Hunter’s Mark to its normal state (additional Damage from Reaper's Mark remains).

I'm not Finished Yet

When you are about to make a Death Save, you can instead restore yourself to ¼ of your Hit Point Maximum. Also, your next Attack has Advantage as your enemies are Surprised at your rapid recovery. You can only do this once per Long Rest.
Notes: I had InFY bring you to a 1/4 of HP Max to coincide with changes I made to Polymorph and Wild Shape when defeated in another form.

[void jewel]

Adding features to HM generally doesn't work because hunters mark is a waste of your concentration and spell slots. Especially side grades like this

[burnt cipher]

I made Hunter's Mark a Feature that scales better with Spell Slots. Might remove Conc if needed.

[void jewel]

Even if the damage die scales a bit it's still a massive waste of concentration.

Like, you have spike growth. At higher levels, you have conjure animals. Why would you use hm.

So conc is a decent start

[hybrid pilot]

Anyone know of something similar to purity seals from Warhammer 40k for character adornments?

[hasty onyx]

yes, Purity Seals 😄

Signets, Sigils, Talismans, Amulets, Seals, Runes, etc...

[mint aurora]

₊˚ ✧ ━━━━⊱⋆⊰━━━━ ✧ ₊˚
Praseria's Secret Class:

Warlord

Class Role: Attacker / Tank / Fighter-type
Boosted Stats: Strength, Dexterity

Techniques, traditions, and teachings have been honed through the ages to create the ultimate fighting machine
Although they can wield very basic magic, it's typically not recommended.

Level 1 –

During combat, your tuned senses allow you to able to control the elements within you, and control elements directly around you
Choose two of the following:

Iron Clad - Manipulate elements from the ground upon which you stand to create a shield around you. Different materials create different shields, for example, standing on a concrete floor will create a stronger shield than loose sand in the desert.

Bloodlust– Upon defeating an enemy, choose to engage in bloodlust. Advantage on all rolls involving combat during your next two turns. However, if you don't defeat an enemy within the allotted two turns, take D4 mental damage

Pulse Strike – Channel all the kinetic energy from your current attack outwards. Melee enemies in a small radius (10 ft.) are pushed back and take minor damage.

Thoughts?

[hasty onyx]

needs a lot of formatting work done
and maybe a name other than Warlord

It looks more like a Barbarian subclass, than a new class

[mint aurora]

Idk 😭

It's kinda like a subclass, I guess

[hasty onyx]

also, the iron clad ability doent really seem to fit in with the rest of it mechanically?

[mint aurora]

Idk, it's like a last class tank ability

[void jewel]

Could be a barb sub yeah

Mechanically similar to barb as well - see reckless attack for advantage

[hasty onyx]

and Rage*

[faint sonnet]

Honestly closer to Artifact-tier power, tbh, and maybe even a bit more than that. The number of charges, number of charges regained, and ability to also use spells slots is huge.

Even the passive bonus to AC and saving throws by itself on an item is Legendary-level, if not greater, considering that this would always be active on the spellcaster.

[void jewel]

But the bigger reason it likely looks like a subclass is because it just isn't fleshed out. You can always start work and see what happens. I guarantee it'll morph and change

A full class takes a huge amount of work and changes

[tepid violet]

hmmm that’s pretty cool but i feel like it should only be able to be done once per long rest

[pliant pagoda]

I had an alternative version in mind that getting a 20 gives allies within 30 ft +1d10 to the next d20 roll

Or 1d6, d8, whichever seems less broken

[faint sentinel]

So I’m working on a Ghost Rider subclass for fighters and it’s not allowing me to publish it even though I have the subclass feats on the proper levels. What am I missing?

[hasty onyx]

does it say why it wont let you publish?

[faint sentinel]

Feats on proper levels

[stuck raptor]

fighters get subclass features at 3, 10, 15, and 18. Make sure theyre all set to... Granted? In the dndbeyond

[faint sentinel]

Correct. I just looked and one was on 7. I’m guessing that was old rules

[stuck raptor]

oh they also get one on 7

[faint sentinel]

I thought so

[stuck raptor]

wait, i might have it wrong, its 7 instead of 10

[faint sentinel]

Still same issue. I might try to figure it out by going through each level

[vague condor]

Final Gambit

Prerequisite: 20th level, proficiency with katanas

Description:

As a bonus action, you can expend all but 1 of your current hit points to unleash your ultimate technique. For 1 hour, your Strength and Dexterity scores each increase to 20 (or your normal maximum if higher), your speed is doubled, and you gain advantage on all attack rolls made with katanas during this time.

Effects:

•    Hit Points: You drop to 1 hit point.
•    Ability Score Increase: Your Strength and Dexterity scores increase to 20 for the duration.
•    Increased Speed: Your movement speed is doubled.
•    Enhanced Attacks: You have advantage on attack rolls with katanas.

Duration: The effects last for 1 hour. After the hour ends, your Strength and Dexterity scores return to normal, but your hit points remain at 1.

Aftermath:
Once you use this ability, you cannot use it again until you finish a long rest. Additionally, you suffer one level of exhaustion after the effect ends, as the immense strain takes a toll on your body.

[hasty onyx]

remove profieciency with katana and related katana-requirements

[void jewel]

The "use this ability to die and then suffer too" ability.

Upsides aren't NEARLY worth immediately dying the next time you stub your toe and an exhaustion level

Especially at level 20

I wouldn't use this at level 1 tbh

[vague condor]

Yhea pretty much it’s a “hope you get good damage” or “well after rolling a 1 you tripped on a rock stubbing your toe and died”

[void jewel]

The only time you'd ever pop this is if you're already at like 3hp

[vague condor]

Though there’s a spell the support can get (haven’t finished it yet) but in short if your at 1hp you get buffed all the way to full. Very specific but if they notice then their golden

[lethal cedar]

So I've been trying to find a way for my Pachycephalosaurus race to work and I've been really unsure what other racial traits to give it.
So far it's just got the Minotaur's Horns and Goring Rush ability.
Right now I've been really unsure what else they should get.

[mild cove]

Unarmored defense?

[burnt cipher]

Still need some feedback on this...

[void jewel]

Bad feature (hm sidegrade) and a slightly better death ward. The HM section may as well not exist. The death ward thing is mediocre. Disappointing if this is all the get at 7

[true forge]

Improved Pact Whip

Prerequisites: Pact of the Whip feature

Your Pact Whip gains +1 to its damage and attack rolls. In addition, when you deal damage with your Pact Whip, you can force the target to make a Dexterity saving throw against your spell save DC, on a fail, the target is pulled 10 feet towards you or is pushed 10 feet away from you in a straight line and fails prone. This saving throw can happen once per turn.

Eldritch Reach

Prerequisites: Pact of the Whip feature

Your Pact Whip’s reach becomes 20 feet instead of 5, for a 25 foot reach.

the first 2 invocations

[tacit berry]

I made a Custom Spell for this item im still Figuring stuff out, its called (Ectoplasm in a bottle)

It is exactly what is says it is ectoplasm in a bottle to even get this item you must use the ectoplasm ability, this is also a healing potion. (The creature/being must be dead in order to even use this), this kind Ectoplasm is used in small doses of medication because it's always pure, the reason is because huge doses like 50HP isn't easy to come by, Doctors would Foam over the mouth to get that much or more.

(Let's say for reference a creature your stealing from has 264Hp seems like alot, well you take hafe of that which comes to 132HP

to better understand how this works here's a small calculation of what you need to do

(Stolen HP ÷ 2 ÷ 1.5) or for better reference (132hp ÷ 2 ÷ 1.5 = 44hp)

if a calculation look like the following 57.666666666, just use the first number so 57HP.

now YOU yes you are in charge of how much HP you recover when you have this bottle

You can even poor this on a weopon of choice to do life steal damage (HP Stole ÷ 2 ÷ 1.5 = ??HP ÷ 2 = ??hp), the number at the end of this calculation is how much HP you Snag away from an opponent (this doesn't effect the weopons Damage output that stays the same)

After usage the E,I,A,B turns back into a jar)

[lethal cedar]

I mean I'm not sure if that would work as well since they kinda had average animal skin

https://youtu.be/wb5BsaHsPPA

Would advantage on concentration checks for spells be broken

[true forge]

for?

[lethal cedar]

A racial trait for the pachycephalosaurus race

I mean... I guess a thick head makes you good at staying hard headed

[true forge]

it would be alot, but warlocks can get it via a invocation so maybe not

[void jewel]

Minor side note' "this saving throw can ONLY happen once per turn" not "can happen once per turn"

If it can happen once per turn, that doesn't mean it can't happen twice, or three times.

I can throw a ball once. I can also throw it twice.

[true forge]

fair fair

added

[lethal cedar]

I guess maybe I could find a different racial thing that can be made put of their culture instead of their biology

[gloomy flower]

if you're already a hard martial your str/dex are gonna be 20+ already, why handicap yourself like that?

[ivory hearth]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/1555892-create-smoke-guardian
https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/1555900-engulfing-smoke

Who likes smoke? I made these smoke themed spells a long time ago. And i wonder if they still hold up. Think these are useable?

[midnight elk]

Anyone one have a monster I can use?

[amber hollow]

A frankly absurd amount. What are you in the "market" for?

[scenic urchin]

i assume an arch vile, which ... yep, help yourself #homebrew message

[vague condor]

Huh…Yhea you right I shall boost it to 30

[marble hull]

Idk if this is the right place but I homebrewed a boss monster and need help with names and abilities

[true forge]

it would be yes

[marble hull]

Ok so the monster in question is currently under the prototype name “the pile”. It’s a whole grave yard of corpses that combined into this mound of undead.

[true forge]

ok, so basically a living graveyard

[marble hull]

Yeah in a sorts

I was thinking something like “grave lord”

[gloomy flower]

also, instead of drop to one health, give vulnerability to all damage, and remove the requirement of a katana

[wanton cave]

Pugilist

Brutal beatdowns and bloody knuckles are your calling card, and by conditioning your flesh to combat, you gain the following benefits:

• Increase your Strength or Constitution score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
• When you hit with your Unarmed Strike and deal damage, you can deal Bludgeoning Damage equal to 1d10 + your Strength modifier, instead of the normal damage of an Unarmed Strike.
• Once on each of your turns, when you hit a creature with an unarmed strike, you can make another unarmed strike as a part of the same Attack action.
• When you hit a creature with an Unarmed Strike as part of the Attack Action on your turn, you can deal damage to the target and also push it 5 feet away from you or grapple it. You can use this benefit only once per turn.

Thoughts on this?

[summer ivy]

Ok I have an idea for a class feature but I feel like it's way too OP.
The idea is basically, the subclass uses "sigils", gained by taking or dealing damage. This feature makes it so you use 4 sigils, and a creature who dropped to 0 hp within 30 feet of you immediately takes an additional turn before actually falling to 0 hp. I was thinking of making it so when they take this additional turn, they gain an additional 2d10 damage to their attacks and when the turn ends, they gain one failed death save. The feature is 16th level, I should have mentioned that from the beginning

If it is too OP, is there any way I could make it less OP while still keeping the essence of the feature?

[hollow siren]

i like each of these but they also feel like a lot packed into one feat

[amber hollow]

right up my alley

[amber hollow]

Honestly, "The Pile" works still

You can look at the Zombie Clot and Graveyard Revenant monsters for inspiration

[marble hull]

Really now

[amber hollow]

I always imagine things like this almost like a fromsoft game.
You walk into a graveyard with a lot of empty holes. And then a mound rises out of the ground and a health bar labelled "The Pile" appears. Absolute awe.

[marble hull]

Oh I didn’t know monsters like these already existed, but mine are a bit different

For one, this creature is smart

[amber hollow]

hive mind?

or collective, even

[marble hull]

It also has an ability where it can cause arms to rise from the ground and grab onto a person, keeping them trapped with zero movement till they beat a strength save

[stuck raptor]

graveyard revenants had human level int iirc

yeah, they have 13 int and can speak common and two other languages

[lethal cedar]

Okay so it might be a bit odd but I did get an idea for something it can do

Basically it gets the battle master pushing or tripping attack

[marble hull]

Might be able to work with this

[stuck raptor]

theyre basically a group of revenants put together from the art

[marble hull]

I should add that the pile also incorporates parts of the graveyard itself

[void jewel]

1d10+mod unarmed strikes, an actual genuine extra attack feature, free grapples every turn with those, AND it's a half feat? Bonkers overpowered.

[peak inlet]

I mean the last part is fine

the full on extra attack is too OP, the d10 Unarmed Strike steps on other feats and is too strong

[stuck raptor]

this seems like grappler on coke

[peak inlet]

wait, that’s why it’s fine

it’s because it already is part of the Grappler feat

I was about to say you can have that part with some other effects and it would be a good feat

[rapid latch]

For Gnolls, as monsters or as a player race/species, do y'all think it would be a good idea to give them a bite attack and on hit they can choose to deal damage or attempt to Grapple the target? Considering how in the wild hyenas can actually crunch down on bones and kill smaller prey by shaking them back and forth in their mouths.

[peak inlet]

unarmed strikes can already grapple

[gloomy flower]

1. the feat is already pretty strong, you may want to consider removing the ASI
2. make the damage 1d8 to match unarmed fighting style
3. make the extra attack a bonus action
4. this is fine
   bonus: consider a level req for this

[peak inlet]

the Unarmed Fighting Style by itself takes a full feat slot

[rapid latch]

This is why I shouldn't post this late. My bad.

[gloomy flower]

oh right people play 2024

[native grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DnDHomebrew/s/TyxbNqFwWI

this is a link to a homebrew ranger subclass I made

any comments?

[void jewel]

As written, simply does not function properly for a large variety of reasons.

[native grove]

alright, elaborate

[void jewel]

If you standardize language and clean up logical inconsistencies, it'll be able to be judged.

Example:

"strength saving throw or be pulled within 5 feet of you"

Against your spell save DC? Who knows, this is a weapon.

Within 5 feet of you? Where within 5 feet of you? To a space of your choice? The closest space to them that's also within 5 feet of you?

And that's just one sentence

There's many of these, I'd have to spend 10+ minutes reading it and asking you for clarity in order to know what features did

If you clean up the language, people will be more able to help you (and more importantly, without cleaning it up, it's unplayable at a table)

[native grove]

fine ill try to fix it

[native grove]

there, did an update

[void jewel]

Aquatic adept is a fun ribbon.

Being wisdom SAD is helpful, but unfortunately aqua shuriken only does that if you are willing to commit to melee (20 feet is functionally melee). Reasonable tradeoff, but not really a power increase. From an optimization POV, this is a feature the ranger will never use: it will be almost always better to be holding a proper ranged weapon and be farther from the enemy. This lives or dies on the options. So let's look:

Water whip is fine.

Water jet is actually usable. Small AoE. The damage is low, which it should be for this effect.

Ice spike: 60ft ranged attack with slow mastery. Somewhat compensates for the earlier issue. However, objectively worse than a heavy crossbow with push (slow is worse than push)

Drain moisture is fine. Strong effect, but targets a bad save and nothing on a successful save. Balanced.

My main issue with all of these options is this: why am I not just holding a heavy crossbow? It's better than all of them.

Ice shield is fine. Somewhat like arcane deflection, without the save bonus but with damage. Bit disappointing that it's all you get at 7 though.

11th level feature makes the attacks hit harder than any weapon is capable of at base. Usable now. Few issues:
-auto grapple as a player is a balance nightmare. Reconsider. A save is needed.

Water jet is fine hhere

Ice spike is the only option that exists, outside of the insane autograpple. This outclasses all other options, mainly due to both doing the most damage, having the highest range, and packing an excellent debuff for focus fire that scales with multi attack.

Drain moisture: sure.

Aquatic supremacy: sure, amazing control once per LR. Works.

Really hard to commit to actually being wisdom SAD seeing as you want 14 dex for AC anyways, no feats will ever meaningfully nteract with these attacks, and the heavy crossbow is kind of just better.

[native grove]

i tried to make the utility of it more useful than just base damage

i do know that actual weapons will more often than not do more damage but with the water effects you can cause debuffs like slowness and weakness

also the auto grapple only happens if the target fails its strength save against being pulled

[void jewel]

Fair so there is a save on the grapple. The additional effects are nice, but simply not worth the range issues. When they scale at 11, they probably are, but before that using them is kind of silly. But all that ignores feats, which make other weapons way better than these.

Feats are the real issue here. CBE/SS notably make these throwing to use outside of situational times

Don't get me wrong. This is totally playable. It just happens to be worse than a normal ranger

[native grove]

what should i do to make the aqua combat actually viable then?

[quiet trellis]

What's the highest single target damage spell?

I want to homebrew a spell for my campaign's god of death, flavoured as him pointing a blasting a hole through people

Something really brutal, single target and devastating if it goes off

[true forge]

i mean its not the highest single target (might be with upcasting, idk), but Disintegrate could work

[quiet trellis]

max possible damage is 154, but I'm not really in the habit of rolling 19 6s

[void jewel]

You have a problem:

If you make it better than a weapon with multiple feats, it's vastly overpowered

If you make it worse than a specced weapon, players will take the weapon.

My advice: have it add riders TO weapon attacks, rather than being a new type of attack.

For reference, see 2024 weapon masteries. You could, for example, cause it to give attacks a 10 foot push or pull and flavor that as water doing it.

Tone down the power lots, but have them just apply in addition to existing attacks.

[native grove]

Problem is that sort of removes the water bending flavor. The entire point of the subclass is that water IS your weapon

[peak inlet]

make it a magic item instead

or a spell

as a feature, it would almost always have to be either a Monk subclass and count as Unarmed Strikes or be a rider onto weapon attacks

[native grove]

I very much doubt I could make it into a single spell

[peak inlet]

you’re not really condensing all the effects into a spell

choose 3-4 effects, make it either do orbs or change your form

the choice you make determines the level

[native grove]

This is the subclass we’re talking about BTW

[peak inlet]

yeh, I read that

[native grove]

But no I’m not making it a magic item either

[peak inlet]

I mean even for a subclass, you have too many different dice denominations and amounts

[native grove]

Because then the player would have to ask their DM for it, which means other players would also want magic items and it turns into a big mess

[peak inlet]

I’ve never had a magic item turn anything into a mess so idk

[native grove]

I’m fine with the subclass having below average DPS if it means it can be viable in other ways like support

[peak inlet]

you can also craft magic items RAW in 2024

[peak inlet]

idk, I honestly don’t think it’s more helpful than a Beast Master Ranger for example

[native grove]

I refuse to make it a magic item

[peak inlet]

it doesn’t have to be a magic item, but it definitely is off as of now

[native grove]

It is staying as a subclass because that is what the character fantasy is supposed to be

[native grove]

What about it is weak in your opinion?

[peak inlet]

it’s not really about being weak

it’s just not really good at what it’s doing for the class

it doesn’t fit the class or interact with it much

the feature choices undermine the other choices

and it’s way too much to memorize

[native grove]

I made the subclass the way it is because I wanted it to fit a character fantasy

[peak inlet]

try standardizing the main damage and range

make it something a Ranger can actually handle

you are losing Weapon Masteries and your Fighting Style when you use this

[native grove]

This is not made for 2024

It’s a 2014 subclass

[native grove]

Problem is I don’t think each effect SHOULD do the same damage or have the same range, because that’s boring just doesn’t really make sense.

I personally don’t find it to be too overwhelming

[peak inlet]

it doesn’t have to be the same damage

but the same damage dice at least

you can give it 2 range tiers if you really wanna lock some stuff

the way it’s set up right now is way too much

[native grove]

Honestly I genuinely don’t see a problem with how the damage system works currently

[peak inlet]

you still can’t use feats to upgrade it, you are very limited in Magic Items you can use, and a lot of your Ranger spells aren’t usable with it

[native grove]

The only way for me to fix that would ruin the character fantasy

[peak inlet]

that’s not true

[native grove]

I don’t want to have them just use weapons

[peak inlet]

they don’t have to use weapons

[native grove]

Okay what are you suggesting then?

[peak inlet]

Soulknife Rogues also have their own weapon

[native grove]

So you think they should have weapon properties?

[peak inlet]

I think it should be 1 weapon that they can conjure, and then you give it riders

[native grove]

No that breaks the character fantasy

If they just water bend to make a sword made out of water then it’s not really water bending, your just making weapons

[peak inlet]

that’s not what I said

[native grove]

Okay elaborate then

[peak inlet]

the water itself is your weapon

give it weapon properties

[native grove]

I could do that but only for the water whip and the ice spike

[peak inlet]

it can be a thrown weapon and then some riders require you to use a melee attack to activate them and others require a ranged attack

[native grove]

What does “riders” mean?

[peak inlet]

extra effects that activate when you land the attack

[native grove]

I personally don’t like making ALL of the water techniques count as weapons

I can do it with some of them but not all of them

[peak inlet]

then they shouldn’t count as part of the Attack action

you can make a separate feature that allows you to use your actions for specific effects

[native grove]

What about sun soul monk? They have a similar system don’t they?

[peak inlet]

the thing I’m telling you is the way Sun Soul does it

it creates a fake weapon that it then uses

[native grove]

Fine I’ll give weapon properties to the water whip and the ice spike

[peak inlet]

also, Water Jet can also be a rider

you’re just thinking too rigidly

[native grove]

I don’t think a high pressure jet of water should count as a weapon attack

[native grove]

It’s me having a character fantasy I want to fulfill

[peak inlet]

look at Ice Knife

[native grove]

I’m not making a water jet use an attack roll

[native grove]

I updated it to make water whip and ice spike have weapon properties

[peak inlet]

you completely missed what I was trying to say, I think someone else will have to go through it with you

[native grove]

Sorry I am incredibly stupid

[peak inlet]

I mean, I explain a certain way, I know I can’t get my point across to everyone

and I can’t think of another way to explain it

[native grove]

Anyone else willing to discuss this?

[mild cove]

Sure

[native grove]

how does this subclass look to you?

[true forge]

Scourge of the Forgotten

Prerequisites: 5th level, Pact of the Whip feature

When you make a weapon attack roll with your Pact Whip, you can forgo the attack roll to do one of the following effects instead. You can use this invocation once per short rest.

Lust’s Lash. The target must make a Wisdom saving throw against your spell save DC. On a fail, the target is Charmed for 1 minute. The target may repeat this saving throw at the end of their next turn/s. While charmed in this way, the creature must spend its movement to get within 5 feet of you. While the charmed creature is within 5 feet of you, all attack rolls made by the Pact Whip automatically hit and any saving throw caused by the Pact Whip automatically fails.

**Wraith’s Punishment: **The target instead makes a Charisma saving throw against your spell save DC. On a fail, the creature’s next turn must be spent attacking a creature of your choice within 30 feet.

Pride’s Benediction: The target gains Temporary Hit Points equal to damage the whip would have dealt. While a creature has these Temporary Hit Points, they become immune to the frightened condition and have advantage on the next attack roll they make.

so, made the only(?) leveled invocation for Pact of the Whip

[mild cove]

Getting every option at level 3 seems a bit OP, I’d make it like the battle master where you learn more at higher levels

I also agree with what the other people were saying with wording being off. For example, you don’t need to mention that you can dual wield ice knife as long as it has the light property

[native grove]

that is fair its mostly just to show that when you make the attack you can choose to summon two ice spikes

[void jewel]

I'm 100% confident you can still make it water bending flavor. Just get creative.

That ice spike one? You conjured a mass of water into your loaded crossbow and froze it with your mind.

[native grove]

i dont want them to use regular weapons, because in my opinion thats boring

[void jewel]

The whip? You used your crossbow to help accelerate a line of water, which you then used your fancy water bending to freeze around people and pull them in.

[void jewel]

Then replicate them.

[native grove]

i mean i sort of did with the water whip and the ice spike as they now have weapon properties

[void jewel]

Make a 1d8 ranged "weapon" with the exact stats of a crossbow and describe it as something else.

[void jewel]

They aren't tagged as specific types of weapons

You need to tag them as, literally, being the weapons, and then have them mechanically act exactly like the weapons (plus your additional effects)

[native grove]

again this is a 2014 subclass, its made WITHOUT weapon masteries in mind

[void jewel]

I wasn't mentioning masteries.

Said nothing about them

You COULD make your own types of weapons. However, you'll run into the feat problem again then.

[native grove]

i would rather have the subclass be underpowered but fit the character fantasy than be balanced but break the fantasy

[void jewel]

But if you either reskin a real weapon shot, or make your own thing that is flavor wise entirely different but mechanically just a weapon with a rider and tag it as the type if weapon, then you'll be good.

[void jewel]

You can have both, with sufficient imagination.

Flavor is entirely free. You can redskin anything into the game into literally anything else.

You can run an entire wizard who has no magical abilities whatsoever and never "casts" any spells

[native grove]

i dont want the subclass to just have the same effects as a crossbow, thats boring

[void jewel]

That's not what I said though

ADD effects to the attacks

Riders.

[native grove]

i already have that

[void jewel]

You have new attacks with riders, not riders to existing attacks. Make riders to the existing attacks and flavor them as new attacks.

Everything to gain with no loss of flavor

[native grove]

im not doing that

[void jewel]

Sure, that's fine

It's playable as is, just that the player will give up a bunch to use its features. If that's acceptable to them, and other players are at a similar power level, you won't have any issues at all.

[native grove]

also i made it so the ice spike and water whip count as weapons

[void jewel]

At the end of the day, an underpowered subclass is better than an overpowered one anyways, since an underpowered one can be safely ignored while an overpowered one can warp the game around it

[void jewel]

That's a good start for the sake of interactions with features (sharpshooter)

[native grove]

neither of them count as ranged weapons, they are melee weapons with the ice spike having the thrown property

[void jewel]

Iirc that requires a "ranged weapon attack" so if the ice spike is a ranged weapon, that'll work. But maybe I'm remembering wrong

Oh unfortunate

Martials are dependant on sharpshooter

Consider giving the spike a ranged weapon tag

Rather than thrown

If you want water bending flavor, consider flavoring it as if you create the spike and then fling it magically, rather than throwing it

[native grove]

problem is im not sure a weapon can have both ranged AND be a melee weapon

[void jewel]

You can tag the options separately

"When you use this option, it is a ranged weapon, and you make a ranged weapon attack roll"

[amber hollow]

Hoopak from Dragonlance

[void jewel]

I think they meant mechanically

Yeah just checked, feats like sharpshooter just require that it be a "ranged weapon"

And "ranged weapon attack"

[amber hollow]

"This weapon is both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon"

[void jewel]

Side note, hunter is an excellent baseline for a ranger subclass.

Compare to that in terms of power

[native grove]

okay i updated it so the ice spike is both a melee and ranged weapon

[void jewel]

Yeah in this case I do thing you want separate tags, so that certain ones suffer disadvantage (ice spike probably should have disadvantage in melee)

[native grove]

so now you can make a sharpshooter ice spike attack

[void jewel]

Tagging as both gets confusing - does it or does it not have disadvantage in melee range?

Individual tags for options solves this.

[amber hollow]

if you make a ranged attack, it'll be disadvantage
if you make a melee attack, it'd be fine

[void jewel]

Iirc that's not how it works mechanically, but you could spell it out.

[native grove]

"Ice spike:You create an ice spike and either attack with it in melee or fire it as a projectile. On hit it does 1D8+wisdom modifier as cold damage and the target has their speed lowered by 10 feet until the end of their next turn on hit. This is considered a simple weapon you are proficient with. If used as a melee attack it has the light and when you attack with ice spikes you can duel wield them (assuming you have both hands available). If used as a ranged attack it has the ranged property (50/100)."

This is how it is now

[void jewel]

I believe the mechanics are "attacks with ranged weapons have disadvantage when attacking a target within 5 feet" or similar. So if it's both melee and ranged, it still gets disadvantage in melee because it is also ranged and therefore qualifies for disadvantage - being melee as well has no bearing here.

[void jewel]

This wording is reasonable.

Good that you use 50/100. Benefits from sharpshooter

Few minor touchups, use wording like "this weapon has the light property" rather than "this weapon has light" and so on.

Someone could think that means the weapon is glowing.

[native grove]

oh fair

[amber hollow]

You create an ice spike, which is considered a simple weapon you are proficient with, and use it to make either a melee attack or a ranged attack. If used to make a melee attack, it has the Light property. If used to make a ranged attack, it has a normal range of 50 feet and a long range of 100 feet.
On a hit, the ice spike deals Cold damage equal to 1d8 + your Wisdom modifier, and the target's Speed is reduced by 10 feet until the end of their next turn.

[void jewel]

^^^this is better wording.

Including proper use of capital s Speed.

[native grove]

thank you for the help though, sorry for being stubborn

[void jewel]

A good place to start is studying how bad-faith readings can entirely break spells. Find some spells and find how people abuse wording. Then, you'll learn the importance of precise wording and you'll learn the 5e wording conventions and how to use them.

[amber hollow]

As far as I understand that's basically the intent of whatever this ice spike stuff is, but yeah I just polished up the formatting

[native grove]

you okay with me copying this?

[amber hollow]

This, basically. I colloquially call this line of thinking "Bag-of-Rats-ing" the work.

[amber hollow]

Why else would I do so for you?

[amber hollow]

Where you look at the thing, and just go, "How do I break it?"
Or ask someone else to find the weak points and see what's broken. Everyone has blindspots.

[void jewel]

That is also important. Everything needs revision and eyes.

And you'll probably scrap it and start over three or four times, that's ok

Take your time

[amber hollow]

Bag of Rats is one of the most famous examples of homebrew abuse. "When you kill a creature you regain HP" with no limit = carry a "bag of rats" and just use that for free HP regen. It doesn't have to be a literal bag of rats but it is the most succinct explanation of the trope.

[native grove]

now the ice spikes and water whip count as weapons it works with feats like sharp shooter so hopefully it should be able to keep up with weapon using rangers

[void jewel]

Also, to be honest, an easier way to be taken seriously is to use proper wording. The more bulletproof your wording is, the more other people will consider your work.

Halo effect and all that.

[void jewel]

That is helpful. That's the main issue I saw with the sub.

I also think the lv 15 feature may be slightly overbearing, but the wizard had wall of force 6 levels earlier so I can't complain about it too much.

I'm fine with martials getting powerful spell like abilities at high levels, personally.

[amber hollow]

Honestly, I will agree
between the two:

Ice spike:You create an ice spike and either attack with it in melee or fire it as a projectile. On hit it does 1D8+wisdom modifier as cold damage and the target has their speed lowered by 10 feet until the end of their next turn on hit. This is considered a simple weapon you are proficient with. If used as a melee attack it has the light and when you attack with ice spikes you can duel wield them (assuming you have both hands available). If used as a ranged attack it has the ranged property (50/100).
and
You create an ice spike, which is considered a simple weapon you are proficient with, and use it to make either a melee attack or a ranged attack. If used to make a melee attack, it has the Light property. If used to make a ranged attack, it has a normal range of 50 feet and a long range of 100 feet.
On a hit, the ice spike deals Cold damage equal to 1d8 + your Wisdom modifier, and the target's Speed is reduced by 10 feet until the end of their next turn.
One of these sticks out. When you format things in the familiar way, in a way that looks official (and thus 'high quality' on a first glance as it resembles official content), it garners and retains attention much better. And when the rules work correctly, the retention will be easier.

[native grove]

the idea is that you bring the water with you even in places that are normally dry

[amber hollow]

I will fully admit, I also had my heyday of jank and scuffed wording, it's a phase basically everyone goes through when trying to write new things. No shame in trying to figure out what goes wrong.

[native grove]

i will keep drain moisture and water jet as saving throws as i dont think they should be made into attack rolls

[void jewel]

Watch some youtubers that break the game. I can reccomend pack tactics and the_twig readily.

[amber hollow]

well that also relies on them being accurate to the rules

[void jewel]

Pack tactics is optimizer focused which helps you learn why good features are good and how things break, and twig has an excellent understanding of the rules (he can teach you how speed really works)

[void jewel]

Yeah that's why I chose those two. I've not seen them mess up, and if they do they correct it.

Admittedly, pack tactics takes RAW to an extreme to make a point, but he isn't usually wrong definitionally.

[amber hollow]

When considering community-wide public discussion, sticking to the rules provides the most cohesive context, as the basic rules are what we can all read and know for a fact is a mutual fundamental in the discussion

[native grove]

i think the subclass is in a decent state currently. It might lag behind a little in terms of damage but the debuffs it can cause make up for it

[void jewel]

The damage is great at 11 when they scale

Main issue is the inability to use magic items (weapons)

Being SAD also helps the subclass a lot

Can't recall if 11 or 13 was the scaling. Whenever that happens.

[amber hollow]

If a subclass doesn't decrease your generic damage output, then it's generally not actively bad, so ye
having neat debuffs and not 'penalizing' you in some other way should be the neat power bundle a subclass should be

[void jewel]

Weapon replacement features do always need to consider the fact that you remove (or at least discourage) players from using magic weapons.

This is one reason I try to do rider effects when working in that space - you can add the rider effects to any type of weapon.

Monks got a whole class of hand wraps added to solve this exact issue

[amber hollow]

Or, replace/enhance.

A qualm with Soul Knife rogue was the replacement being a useless feature in the face of a magic weapon, or a magic weapon being useless in the face of a feature.

A solution would have been to make soul knife able to make their psi blades, but also be able to enhance a weapon, like dealing psychic damage with that magic weapon, or use their other quirky abilities.

Similarly, i imagine using this to make a weapon deal cold damage, or be used as a second attack after a regular weapon

[neon inlet]

Here's an old time based monk I made a few years back lmk what ya think

Monk - Time Weaver
3rd level - time jump - when making an attack with a monk weapon, or unarmed strike, you may blink forward up to half your movement speed without expending any movement, if this attack lands it deals an additional 1d6 damage of the weapons type.
6th level - reset - once per long rest you may use a bonus action to select a willing target. At the start of your next turn all of the targets spell slots, changes to hit points, movement, and conditions that occurred or began since taking this action will be restored.
12th level- full force - when using your time jump feature you may spend 2 ki points to gain advantage on the attack, dealing 1d6 bonus damage for every 5ft blinked with this ability. Forcing the opponent to make a dex save (DC 8 + Wis Proficiency) or be knocked back 15ft.
18th level - time rift - once per long rest you can spend 3 ki points, make a wisdom saving throw equivalent to your save DC + 2 if the result is a failure you take 6d10 force damage as the rift slams shut, if it is a success then roll 1d4 select up to that many targets to gain the benefits of the time stop spell, you must be one of those targets.

[amber hollow]

My take just because I felt like "what if I tried to crunch a redesign within an hour"
A fun little experiment for me, but I don't expect this to be too balanced lol

Monk - Warrior of Temporal Ascendance
3rd - Time Jump - Once on each of your turns when you make an Unarmed Strike or an attack with a Monk weapon, you can teleport up to a distance equal to half your Speed into an unoccupied space you can see, before the attack. If that attack hits, it deals an additional 1d6 damage of the weapon's type.
3rd - Causal Fracture - When a creature you can see within 30 feet is hit by an attack roll or fails a saving throw, you can take a Reaction to warp cause and effect. When used against an attack, it turns into a miss and you take Force damage equal to half the attack's damage. When used against a saving throw, the target can reroll the saving throw with Advantage and must use the new roll.
You can use this feature an amount of times equal to your Wisdom modifier, and regain all expended uses when you finish a Long Rest. While you have no uses available, you can expend 2 Focus points to use this feature again.
6th - Temporal Charge - When you use Time Jump, you can expend 2 Focus points to augment the attack that follows. You gain Advantage on the attack, and on a hit, it deals an additional 1d6 damage of the attack's type for every 10 feet of distance you teleport.
11th - Time Saviour - When you use Causal Fracture, you can also choose to send the target forward in time in addition to the normal effect. When you do so, the target disappears until the start of their next turn or the start of your next turn (target's choice), upon which they reappear. You can use this feature an amount of times equal to your Wisdom modifier, and regain all expended uses when you finish a Long Rest.
17th - Temporal Erasure - When you use Deflect Attacks, you can expend 1 additional Focus point to reduce the damage you take to 0. When you use Stunning Strike and successfully apply the Stunned condition, you can expend 1 additional Focus point to cause it to be the Paralyzed condition instead. At the end of each of your turns, you expend 1 Focus point to use Self-Restoration to remove any condition from yourself, except Exhaustion.
You can use benefits from Temporal Erasure a total of 5 times in any combination, and regain all expended uses when you finish a Long Rest. While you have no uses remaining, you can expend 2 additional Focus points to use this feature again.

[hollow siren]

ok so i resolved my elemental psion subclass conundrum i think

psykinetic but a variant

basically, my proposed replace psykinetic variant would replace destructive trance with destructive psionics (which is really just potent thoughts from telepath anyway lol) and make an int mod bonus for psion cantrips, and the level 3 ability telekinetic techniques would allow the psion to gain 1 (or 2?) cantrips from the wizard or druid spel lists as psion cantrips

i feel like telepath should have had the destructive trance ability, and the psykinetic shouldve had potent thoughts too

[hollow siren]

alternatively, instead of granting a wizard cantrip as part of psykinetic, an optional feature at level 1 that allows multiple wild talent feats (this would be accomplished by simply raising the prereq. cap to 2 or 3, TBD on number) and that any spells/cantrips gained from WT feats count as psion spells/cantrips

idk. thoughts on these changes?

lately ive been toying with the psion conceptually because the psion may allow a sort of "wizard prodigy" character to mechanically work

[warped void]

I'm making some sea versions of Mindflayers for a sea campaign.

[flint marsh]

Pack tactics also intentionally misleads people with bad faith rules interpretations to drive engagement

He used to come onto this server and start fights about whatever his latest video is so people would search to argue with him and find the video

[hollow siren]

idk, i feel like his interpretations arent bad faith from what i have seen

[hollow siren]

but i didnt know he would do this tho, thats a bit clout chasey

[flint marsh]

I think the "you get infinite hp because I am pretending I don't knownwhat a semicolon does" is the big one but he has had a lot of stuff thats just straight up "you can get away with this if your dm isn't looking too closely"

[hollow siren]

i havent heard that one, yeeeesh

i think the latter, theres some degree of that to be expected

but generally its not to the point of bad faith

[flint marsh]

Anyway people can watch whatever they want, just giving a heads up to really look closely so you don't inadvertently create friction at the table

[hollow siren]

very valid

i appreciate the background i didnt know prior

[flint marsh]

Work with your dm instead of someone who makes money off of encouraging people to break games imo

[hollow siren]

agreed, DM cooperation is paramount to a healthy game

TBEF trying to make powerful builds or broken ones isnt bad per se in and of itself, but that should never come at the expense of working with your DM

(not saying it cant be a problem either tho, as it very much can be)

[burnt cipher]

Trying to make a Necrotic Ranger Subclass (Reaper) and want some more feedback on my Level 7 Feature:

###I'm not Finished Yet
When you are about to make a Death Save, you can instead restore yourself to ¼ of your Hit Point Maximum and get up from Prone without spending Movement. Your next Attack Action has Advantage as your enemies are Surprised at your rapid recovery. You can only do this once per Long Rest.

[lethal cedar]

Hey would the battle master's pushing attack or trip attack be a broken racial trait?

[flint marsh]

I'd word it like "you make attacks at advantage until the end of your next turn"

[lethal cedar]

Trying to decide the final racial thing for the Pachy race and the idea was them flank butting the target causing them to fall down

[flint marsh]

Take a look at the minotaur's hammering horns feature

Can swap it from a push to a prone

[lethal cedar]

Oh I guess it is effectively that.

Funny, they already basically have the horns and goring rush

[flint marsh]

I often find you can get a lot out of mechanics if you strip the flavor out and add your own

[lethal cedar]

I guess the hammering horns can work as reflavored as the player charging full speed into the opponent's side

[dry lintel]

Hey on my Venom Whisperer rouge subclass (Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tZxHXK7CYrulUlUzKQUFZh7DOB73wCv6fJavbJnUv90/edit?usp=sharing), I am thinking of making two changes:

1. I am thinking of adjusting when Venomous Strikes scales in the 3rd level feature, to make it consistent with the tiers of play.
2. I noticed on the 13 level feature the the first two of the rider effects are pretty much the same. I am thinking of removing one of them (probably the top one, though regardless of which one I am removing I am going to bump up the damage to make it more impactful, considering it is limited use) and replacing it with a different effect.
   What do you think?
   (Note, the other features have already been reviewed by Whisperdice, so I don't need any changes on them)

[coral delta]

¼ is a very difficult number to calculate on the fly. I'd restore them to a set number, like perhaps their Ranger level.

[lethal cedar]

Now I guess I need one last racial trait for a prof.

...what would a race that is culturally known for trash talking and saying their opinion be prof in

[coral delta]

P-performance?

[dry lintel]

orc sounds like a good choice for that

for intimidation

[lethal cedar]

Basically the idea with the race's culture is they are always straight to the point and give their opinion. They'd rather go "You smell bad." in as few words as possible than kindly tell someone that

[dry lintel]

initimidation, as I said earlier, would fit best

[coral delta]

I dunno, it's kind of hard to associate a skill with not trying to do something.

[lethal cedar]

Kinda funny how the race of pachycephalosaurs have a lot in common with the minotaur race stat wise.

Also this I put in their lore I find kinda funny
They consider it impolite to not mean what you really think. They would rather say they hate a loved one's cooking than tell them it tastes well to save face. Above all they hate name calling, many tavern drunkards have been rammed straight through a wall after calling one "Domeheads."

[midnight elk]

Anyone one have any ideas to make this less op?
Scattershot Barrage (Recharge 5–6)
Fire 3 rockets in a 30-foot cone. 3d10 elemental damage + 1d6 bludgeoning + 1d6 force to all creatures (Dex save DC 18 for half)
I had someone almost one-shot a mindflayer last night.

[coral delta]

Recharge? Why is this recharging on player side?

[midnight elk]

It was an effort to nerf it.

[coral delta]

Having it up at the beginning of every single combat, and possibly multiple times during the same combat is extremely, extremely strong.

[midnight elk]

Okay.

By the way, here's the full document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1OoIKPei7k6Xy8D0kYuUYShe-Mq6wWahjSgGYUkfKg/edit?usp=sharing

[lethal cedar]

So looks like I got:
Reinforced Cranium. Your thick skull is a natural weapon you can use for unarmed strikes. If you hit with them, you deal bludgeoning damage equal to 1d6 + your Strength modifier. instead of the bludgeoning damage normal for an unarmed strike.

Ramming Impact. Immediately after you use the dash action on your turn and move at least 20 feet, you can make one melee attack with your skull as a bonus action.

Flank Ram. Immediately after you hit a creature with a melee attack as part of the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to attempt to ram the target in their side. The target must be no more than one size larger than you and within 5 feet of you. Unless it succeeds on a Strength saving throw against a DC equal to 8 + your proficiency bonus + your Strength modifier, you push it up to 10 feet away from you.

Foul Mouth. You have proficiency in intimidation.

And a +1 to con, int, and str

...Does it seem... nice?

[flint marsh]

looks perfectly passable. I don't know that you need the wording about hitting people in the side since facing doesn't exist in 5e, and if this is for 2024, the ability score modifiers live in background instead of species

[lofty inlet]

So I started a new campaign and its very animal focussed/themed.

My barbarian wanted to be able to turn into a bear but he wanted it to be something thats not easily controllable and maybe comes with his rage. Druid would have been a waste bc he literally wants none of those powers besides "bear". So I thought hmm he could be a totem warrior and I could homebrew it in a way that there is no "spirit animal" but he actually turns into a bear. I would go with the 2024 way of handling HP for druids and have him use his own HP + Temporary ones for this.

Does anyone see any problems with this whole thing or has a worry I should keep in mind for the future? He is the first player at a table of mine to play a barbarian so I dont have much experience with DMing them

[lethal cedar]

The side thing is based off how Pachycephalosaurus may have engaged in flank ramming. So the flavor text is you are ramming the opponent in the sides to push them

[flint marsh]

that's fine, but maybe toss it in the species description instead - it might end up being confusing in a mechanics section

[midnight elk]

It's kinda like a rocket launcher based on breath weapon.

[lethal cedar]

Fair, the race does have a culture for a way they fight for a leader by basically MMA in a circle where the goal is to push the opponent out of the 10 foot field

[burnt cipher]

20 HP at Level 20 when you're likely to have 120-140 HP feels low. What if it added Prof Mod and WIS or CON Mod?

[burnt cipher]

Last redo of the night:

Level 7

I'm not Finished Yet

When you are about to make a Death Save, you can instead restore yourself to a number of Hit Points equal to your Ranger Level + Prof Mod + X Mod and get up from Prone without spending Movement. Your next Attack Action has Advantage as your enemies are Surprised at your rapid recovery. You can only do this once per Long Rest.
X: CON or WIS, I'm not sure.

[hollow wave]

so I'm looking for some feedback on the batfolk race im working on (im gonna come up with a better name for it later "batfolk" is a placeholder name) i plan on writing down the lore for them after i get the stats decided on
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jTevyqdyFwhM6xajcJtkYtqfZX-fxSSBMTJ7dHsqHgc/edit?usp=sharing

[outer raven]

I want the main villains of my campaign to be vampires

But the weakest form, vampire spawn, are way too strong for my party

Im thinking of maybe making failed vampires that are defeatable by my lvl 1 party

[hollow wave]

id recommend have them face vampire thralls which could be anything that is under the vampires influence

[outer raven]

Maybe the weak who couldn't survive the vampiric plague process?

They'd be like zombies

Except a lot faster

[heady stream]

there is the vampire familiar in the new MM

[outer raven]

Oh right, I still only have the 2014 MM

[hollow wave]

you could do that, but vampires have the capabilitys to charm and control others, you could have them face mind controlled goblins or reanimated corpses that the party must face

[heady stream]

and there is the Kobold vampire spawn from Icewind dale, another CR3

[outer raven]

Maybe impure vampires? Maybe vampire transformation is less effective the farther the race is from human or elven?

[heady stream]

oh and there is the Vampirate from spelljammer, a CR2

[outer raven]

Current inspiration are the Eules from Signalis

[hollow wave]

maybe is this a one shot or do you plan on having the players level up and grow stronger

[outer raven]

Get stronger over time

I like the idea of failed vampires the most

Oh maybe I could make a bunch of different vampire morphs as the campaign continues

[hollow wave]

ok, then what you could do is have the vampires they face at first be failed experiments, they where supposed to be made to infect other creatures that normally arent infected but it caused them to be weakened and frail

could add more hatred towards the villians as these could be subjects of dark and twisted magics

[outer raven]

Yeah, current plot idea is that vampires release their blood into the city's water supply

[hollow wave]

ooh!

maybe the giant rats

give them a small buff, and maybe some weaker vampire powers

[outer raven]

Oh that'd actually be character relevant lmao. One of my players is a plagueborn (rat-man). Maybe they could have some bad blood with him and attack the party

[hollow wave]

ooh yeah! or to make it more sad for that player, these where rats that he knew and where friends with, but the vampire blood infected them and make them evil and hateful towards him

could help give extra drive for that player to hate the vampires

[outer raven]

One of my party members is a shade. Maybe she could have been one of the first people to die of the plague

[hollow wave]

if thats what the player would want, but its good to keep in mind that giving each player their own reasons to hate the vampires is never a bad idea, as they are individuals, obviously you dont have to, but it never hurts

[outer raven]

Ill maybe have a mix so it dosem't get to repetitive. I dont want the campaign to be that combat oriented anyway, since that was always the longest and least favorite part of our first campaign

[hollow wave]

yeah, its your game do whatever you want, you can disregard everything I've said. tbh this is a really cool idea and i think you could do alot of ways for it

[outer raven]

I think having a single location be the main setting of the campaigns gonna be a big impovemennt. It'll let me go into a lot more depth with the world building

[hollow wave]

oh yeah definitly, you can even use it as a opportunity to show the players impacts in alot more detail

[summer ivy]

How does all this sound?
"At 16th level, from now on, you have advantage on death saving throws. Additionally, if a creature within 30 feet of you (not including yourself) falls to 0 HP, you can choose to spend 4 sigils to give them a heavy rush of energy. The chosen creature skips initiative and immediately takes a turn as normal. While they do this, they gain additional damage to any attacks made equal to a Sigil Roll. After they take this turn, they immediately fall to 0 HP with 1 failed death save."
idk if the wording is good, please tell me if not

[native gale]

I don't understand all of the context for this feature, but here is my best attempt at rewording it to better fit 5e terminology

Starting at level 16, you have advantage on death saving throws. Additionally, if another creature within 30ft of you is reduced to 0 HP and isn't killed outright, you can use your reaction to expend 4 sigils and give them a rush of energy. That creature regains 1 HP and immediately takes an extra turn, interrupting the current turn. During this extra turn, any attacks the creature makes do extra damage equal to a Sigil Roll. When the extra turn ends, the creature is reduced to 0 HP and they suffer a Death Saving Throw failure.

[summer ivy]

Thank you

[primal osprey]

I am currently trying to make a homebrew magic item for someone. I've been making a series of Amulets around different themes, but I am stuck at the moment with an "Amulet of Fate"

I have no ideas other than sort of copying that ability Diviner Wizards have

[nova basin]

Divination wizards aren't faithful in that sense

[peak inlet]

copying Portent would kinda make Diviner Wizard obsolete

[nova basin]

That sounds like a cleric item

[primal osprey]

Wait I mean fate

[nova basin]

Ahh

[primal osprey]

Apologies

[nova basin]

Then yes div wiz

Or chronurgy if you play with it

[primal osprey]

Yeah that's what I thought

[nova basin]

Technically echo knight if you wanna be funny

[peak inlet]

Fate has a lot of different related effects in the game

[native gale]

What rarity tier of magic item were you aiming for?

[primal osprey]

I am not sure yet

I was thinking maybe very rare or legendary, simply based off the name

[peak inlet]

stuff like Commune, Augury, etc. Deck of Many Things, and stuff like roll manipulation (Foresight, etc.)

[primal osprey]

I'll check out Augury and other divination spells

Okay now I'm just confused about Augury

I might just make the Amulet be able to cast Foresight

I think I have found my weakness - everything divination

[next zephyr]

Amulet of fait-
Grants the wearer the ability to turn the tides of fortune to there favour granting them one Portent die that refreshes on the conclusion of a long rest.

Curse - A dyslexic wrote this so the text is horribly spelled 🤣

[primal osprey]

Ah no problem, I understood

[next zephyr]

The idea is along the line of the luxion beacon from cr campain 2, with the roll manipulation your after

[primal osprey]

Idk, I suppose making it stack with the Diviner's ability could be good and avoid making one obselete

Oooh I never got far enough in campaign 2

Maybe instead it could just be +10 bonuses or -10 penalties

[next zephyr]

The other option is a silvery Barbs adjacent when a creature within 30ft rolls a nat 20 you can store that nat 20 replacing it with a 19, allowing you to then change one roll of yours to a nat 20

[primal osprey]

Actually, I do have an idea of having it similar to divine portent but it's automatically a 1 or 20

[void jewel]

I know he uses bad faith rules interpretations. I don't consider this an issue at all. You can easily just not allow them at tables. Besides, he is usually technically correct.

In fact, I think the more we discuss the bad faith rules, the better an understanding of the real rules we have.

An example: he does correctly point out a lot of game breaking uses of nystuls magic aura. Like permanent no-save slaves. Those exist.

[flint marsh]

cool

he's still someone that picks fights to get people to go to his videos and therefore I avoid them anyways. I don't want that kind of shit in the hobby I love

like I said, people can watch what they want, I just choose not to give the guy my algorithm

[void jewel]

I mean, I just don't agree he's picking fights. I dont consuder what he does fighting, but discussion. But we can just agree to disagree here.

[sour panther]

You are better aware of those as a DM than being surprised with a peasant railgun at the table

[flint marsh]

oh I don't care if you agree, he literally would come into this server and start spouting things and trolling people

that was enough to get permanent blacklist from me

[void jewel]

That's fine. I was talking the videos, not the person's actions though.

I separate the two myself

I don't actually give him my algorithm either though (I watch on newpipe)

[flint marsh]

I used to seperate art from artist but I don't anymore.

I realise I have power of what I support and don't support and I don't support toxic garbage in my hobby

[primal osprey]

Yeah it’s difficult to do it

[void jewel]

No DM is surprised by anything that is tech at the table because players communicate with their DM when it comes to tech.

If they don't, you have a deeper issue and should talk to your players.

Can't say I've ever played with "surprise tech" sort of players.

[sour panther]

Well get a table of optimizers then lol

[void jewel]

I have a table of incredible optimizers

We're talking double artichron

They handle 20* deadly. Doesn't mean they're not communicative about how the do it.

Optimizer does not equal bad faith player. Those two are separate.

[flint marsh]

I Agree with that

when I mention bad faith rules interpretations I Was specifically speaking about pack tactics

optimizing a concept is a lot of fun

[sour panther]

Well didn’t say that. In general: “Oh, wow. Cool. Never would have thought of that. Inspiration. Also, absolutely no.”

[void jewel]

Just can't say I play with people who use bad faith interpretations. Never had that issue

They definitely push limits - such as a dhampir going prone on a ceiling - but that's not a bad faith interpretation. A bad faith interpretation is infinite goodberry healing from an artificer's tattoo

Command in 2024 forcing people to jump off cliffs isn't a bad faith interpretation either, for example, since it's objectively the fastest way away from you, that's what Flee does, and 2024 removed the line stating they care for their safety.

What is bad faith is something like using nystuls and suggestion to cause an infinite chain of endless slaves, or a god exit such as simulacrum + wish.

[sour panther]

There are a lot of things that are RAW or ROI but when used a certain way detract from play. DM has a seat for a reason

[void jewel]

Yes, I just find most people's definition of "retract from play" is actually pretty bad - such as when someone complains about sentinel + PAM, silvery barbs, ect.

Silvery barbs is a fun example, because it's a considerably worse spell than shield, yet people will nerf or remove it and not touch shield.

Stating power reasons.

"Exploits" such as infinite goodberry healing with artificer tattoo DO retract from play though.

[sour panther]

Sometimes you can come up with a counter, for example saying that a creature that is grappled can move itself to another facing within 5 ft for every 5 ft moved by the grappler. That instantly fixes most cheese grating abuse

But yeah

[void jewel]

Cheese grating is abuse in your mind?

[flint marsh]

as a DM I love silvery barbs - it's a huge resource sink

[void jewel]

Exactly. It's also a teamwork spell.

I encourage barbs a lot

[sour panther]

Depends. Are they winning every encounter with it? Is it becoming boring?

[void jewel]

Drains my casters and allows them to help allies

[flint marsh]

it's counterplay - the mechanical equivalent of "Yes, and"

it pushes the play forward while also not guaranteeing a failure

[void jewel]

There are far easier ways to win every encounter than cheese grating. It's good, but not something you regularly see in high OP.

Plus, it's a strategy that requires teamwork (or some cursed multiclass)

Spike growth is an extremely potent spell, don't get me wrong though.

[void jewel]

Especially if people are cheese grating with grappling, it's nothing to be worried about. That's highly suboptimal compared to using ranged push and pull effects.

[rapid latch]

Do any of y'all have rules for equipment for races/species with body plans other than the standard humanoid? Or other rules pertaining to such? I'm not working on anything that needs it I'm just curious.

[next zephyr]

I have a full rework of the armour system that's my baby i use

[rapid latch]

Got a link?

[next zephyr]

I can dm it to you if you wanna look it over, its in a word document

[rapid latch]

Yes please.

[versed wraith]

in anyone's opinion, how should you go about determining the total hp of a "horde" enemy? like using the skeletal minion, would it be a safe bet to do 13 times however many skeletons are in the horde?

[dull sphinx]

Hey y'all. So I created a race. I was hoping I could get your opinions/balancing on it.

Shadelyng
Some were evolved from a persons shadow, a magical or alchemical accident, or via in-species breeding by splitting themselves and imbuing their magics into each other as it grows.

Appearance: They are beings of pure shadow, with humanoid-esque appearance who are bipedal, with typically varied shades of purple, or silver colored eyes. Because of their form, it tends to change with the direction of light. Due to this they never look the same all the time.
FEATURES:

Ability Score Increase: +1 Dexterity or Charisma and +1 to Wisdom

Shadow's Wake - Beginning at first level they have the ability to go invisible an amount of times equal to their proficiency bonus while in dim-light. Entering light brighter than dim-light, will cause them to become visible.

Throwing Shade: Beginning at 3rd level they may say an insult to a creature that can understand them, causing them to make a Charisma Saving Throw or take 1d4 Psychic damage and unable to speak for 1d4 days, or no effect If they succeed. These die go up by one step every Ability Score Increase/Feat.

Twilight's Cloak: Beginning at 5th level, they may cast a special spell known as Twilight's Cloak making them invisible for an amount of minutes equal to their Wisdom or Charisma bonus (their choice), regardless of light level. Additionally their footsteps are completely silent making them imperceptible by normal senses (True sight can see them, but blindsight does not allow them to be perceived). They can do this an amount of times equal to half their proficiency bonus, or full at 8th level.

[stuck raptor]

whats the ability score to determine the save for throwing shade

[dull sphinx]

Ah! Thank you. It's Charisma most likely

[stuck raptor]

also, does that mean fighters and rogues get a bigger die, since they get more ASIs/feats?

[dull sphinx]

Good point. Probably not.

I have some sub races as well but it keeps being flagged as spam

[stuck raptor]

also, unable to speak for days seems a bit much for a species

[hollow siren]

constitution, because the best shade cripples your self esteem

jk lol

[dull sphinx]

Maybe hours or minutes?

[hollow siren]

its probably wisdom or cha

[stuck raptor]

id personally just make it 1 min

with saves at end of turn

[dull sphinx]

Got it. Thanks.

I appreciate y'all's help

[stuck raptor]

cuz that can just shut down any enemy spellcasters hard

[dull sphinx]

Fair

Y'all feel free to use the race how you guys see fit as long as I get some credit

[spring tusk]

hello everynyan

I have this deck of cards I made that's meant to work as a way to randomly generate dungeons on the fly- I've created a way to use the deck as just its own game outside of D&D, but with its original use I'm still not sure how to make it the most fun that it can be

[mild cove]

How do these Goliath and mind flayer races look:

Mind Flayer/Illithid
Whether a runaway from the Elder Brain, or off on a mission for it you are infused with the psionic power of the Underdark.
Mind Flayer Traits
Ability Score Increase: +2 Intelligence, +1 to Wisdom
Telepathy: You can speak telepathically to any creature within 60 ft. of you
Psionics: You can cast the detect thoughts spell once per long rest. Starting at 3rd level you can cast the levitate spell once per long rest. Intelligence is your spellcasting ability for these spells. You can also cast these spells with any spell slots that you have.
Languages: You can speak Common, Deep Speech, and one other language of your choice. You can also write in Qualith.

Goliath
You are a goliath, a person descended from the great giants of old.
Goliath Traits
Ability score increase: +2 Constitution, +1 Strength
Strong Build: Your carrying capacity is doubled
Giant Lore: You have proficiency with the History skill, and your proficiency bonus is doubled for any History check relating to giants, giant kin, or dwarves.
Giant Ancestry: Pick one of the following giant ancestors:
-Hill Giant: You have a bonus to all Charisma (Intimidation) checks equal to your Wisdom modifier (minimum of +1)
-Stone Giant: You have a +1 bonus to your armor class when not wearing armor.
-Frost Giant: You have resistance to cold damage
-Fire Giant: You can deal an extra 1d4 fire damage on one weapon attack per turn
-Cloud Giant: Your walking speed is increased by 5 ft.
-Storm Giant: You gain a +1 to Wisdom and can breath in air and water
Languages: You can speak Common and Giant

[spring tusk]

There's a total of 40 cards, but only 8 unique cards

15 x Corridor
6 x Crossroads
2 x Trapdoor
3 x Trap
5 x Encounter
7 x Dead End
1 x Key
1 x Exit

[stuck raptor]

The goliath seems a bit unbalanced when it comes to options

Also, +4 to stats total when you pick Storm seems a bit much

[flint marsh]

this is obviously for use in 2014, right?

[stuck raptor]

perhaps some respite/resting cards?
Like, places where the party can take a break and be safe

[mild cove]

Yes

[mild cove]

Yeah, I wanted to make storm more powerful than the others, but I wasn’t sure if that was too op

[stuck raptor]

its not OP, its just be best option, especially with Tasha's move your ASIs anywhere

[flint marsh]

presumeably tasha's would be off the table

tasha's of course replaces ability score increases

[mild cove]

Where is that? Custom lineage?

[void jewel]

Yeah if Tasha's rules are allowed it's a +3 and a +1

[void jewel]

No, optional rule in Tasha's to move racial ASIs around

[mild cove]

Ok

[void jewel]

Became a baseline rule indirectly in 2024

[mild cove]

Then yes, it is intended that that wouldn’t be allowed

[stuck raptor]

in 2024, its limited to background ASIs

[flint marsh]

that goliath kinda washes out the original goliath even more. it's fine, it's just not on par with the new goliath and lacks the stone's resilience of the old goliath

[void jewel]

Telepathy needs clarity. Do they auto understand you? Do they need to speak a language? Your language, any language?

[void jewel]

Which is why I said indirectly yeah. They just moved it from race to background, but little difference there.

Still a +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1

[spring tusk]

I think that the best way to run it is by having each player draw card at the beginning of their turn, and then just trailing off from there based on the results

the corridor draws you an extra card
the crossroads forces a check, on a fail you draw an extra card, on a success you draw two
the trap, encounter, dead end, trapdoor, and exit all immediately end your turn, the trap triggers an effect for everyone or else damage, the encounter triggers a combat, the dead end puts the card on the top of the discard pile on to the top of the deck, and the trapdoor and exit both shuffle the discard pile into the deck, but the trapdoor is removed from the game after its used
the goal is to get the key, and then the exit, if you get the exit before you get the key then you shuffle the discard pile back into the deck and keep playing, but if you do get the key then you set it aside and count it as part of your inventory

the thing I think I'm struggling with the most is how to make it fun for everybody, because its only one deck,

[mild cove]

Mind flayer look fine?

[spring tusk]

when a turn ends it moves to the next player, but I'm not sure how to give them a goal-

[sullen echo]

I was thinking about making a homebrew sub-class to help poison be incorporated into fighting more

I was pondering fighter but another good choice could be rogue too

Does anybody have any thoughts on this, anyways to help scale poison or make it more applicable to scenarios?

[sturdy knoll]

A poison die bonus damage based on the character's proficiency bonus? e.g. 2d6 poison at at +2 proficiency. Number of dice based off proficiency bonus.