dnd-discussion

[rough basalt]

There was like a battlefield shuffle spell that was a 3rd level reaction and I remember using it a crapload on my Sword Bard.

Let you reroll initiative and add a d6 to the result. And allies within 30ft added the d6 to theirs and enemies decreased it from theirs unless they had charm immunity.

Never really ran into a situation where I felt any of the spells from it were too broken but 1000 spells means I only saw a couple.

Valdas on the other hand.

One player at the table backed the original kickstarter

[umbral girder]

That's rough buddy

[rough basalt]

So he had the beta PDF and the dm allowed it and any time I saw something from it was just insane. They probably reigned it in the final product but it was crazy.

Like talking a level 8 Wizard with Time Stop.

[rough basalt]

It was. Mage Hand Press said "we're tired of this "all characters are the main characters" nonsense. It's time for the real main characters. Anyone who uses our stuff!"

[lavish flame]

there's no way what.

[umbral girder]

One of those books I am not touching

[rough basalt]

Take that with a grain of salt cause that mightve been a magic item the DM gave him for some dang reason.

[feral fulcrum]

Blackstaff was very samey I found, and alot of it felt like they didn't really grasp how 5E works.

[rough basalt]

Yeah like I said I didn't read through it all, mainly the bard spells where I found a lot to like.

[feral fulcrum]

There were a couple neat spells in it, but for the most part I was dissatisfied with it.

[rough basalt]

Third party I got on my potential list is Exploring Eberron and maybe Monster Manual Expanded.

I want more monsters of certain creature types

[umbral girder]

Monster Manual Expanded does get pretty samey ngl

[rough basalt]

Dammit

[umbral girder]

A lot of "They get a legendary action to move, attack, or do a spell"

[rough basalt]

Ah so the right kind of monster design /j

[fossil hollow]

Thats the one you showed me, right?

[umbral girder]

Yep

[feral fulcrum]

Legendary Action Suplex.

[rough basalt]

Admittedly a lot of my monster design is very simple

[fossil hollow]

yeah, lots of the LAs were screaming copy paste

[umbral girder]

It has some neat stuff like Aspects of Demon lords and Archdevils.

So if you want a Cr16 Zariel the book has it

[rough basalt]

Idk. I just want more monsters

Dungeon of the Mad Mage might be unintentionally a good choice for that

It's probably got a lot of adventure unique enemies

[fossil hollow]

most of the non-named individuals use MoTM and MM monsters

[umbral girder]

Yep

[knotty vine]

I killed my character to kill a guy who was threatening the party

[fossil hollow]

probably where most of the MoTM monsters came from actually

[umbral girder]

Some of the named ones are "Use this stat block and use these changes"

[rough basalt]

Well MotM monsters came from Volos and Tome of Foes

[fossil hollow]

and also several adventure modules like BG, OoTA

Witchlight too

[rough basalt]

Man. I'm just getting more depressed.

[umbral girder]

Princes of the Apocolypse too

Yeah Flee, Mortals is probably the main big ones I like

[rough basalt]

It's a rough life when you want more Oozes, and Plants.

Nothing Perkins and Craw hated more than allowing monsters other than Undead to be made.

[lavish flame]

Isn't this gonna be majority altered monsters?

[rough basalt]

Yeah probably.

But at the very least it'd give me something

I can't just make stuff off the top of my head I need something to stimulate it.

[umbral girder]

Tbh I just look at a statblock and think "How do I make an adventure out of this?"

[lavish flame]

It had Crystal Golems, which I stole

[lavish flame]

realllllll

[rough basalt]

I can only do that when I'm in my bi-monthly creative bursts

[lavish flame]

Often I find myself going "Damn, a Behir is really cool. I gotta find a way to put this in my game."

[fossil hollow]

thats how i came to love Empyreans

[umbral girder]

I just read the little tid bits of lore and go "Ok thats an encounter I'll use"

[rough basalt]

I mostly get my ideas from talking here cause I don't think about what I say so sometimes I come up with stuff I think are a good idea.

[umbral girder]

Like if I want to use a Gelatinous cube and it says "They hang out in city sewers to keep it clean" I'm gonna make an adventure in the sewers

[rough basalt]

Town Mayor is angry that his city is so sanitary

So he wants the party to kill what keeps cleaning the city so he can start taxing for clean water.

[umbral girder]

Or the bad guys are below the city and the players unfortunately walk into the "Cleaning Crew"

[rough basalt]

Why hurt poor Gelly

[umbral girder]

Like were rats or something

[rough basalt]

They're just keeping the city clean.

[lavish flame]

Otyugh v Gelatinous Cube adventure. The Otyughs want more sewage to eat, the Gelatinous Cubes keep dissolving it.

[rough basalt]

Pretty funny ngl

[fossil hollow]

idea: Eat each other

[umbral girder]

Otyugh are stronger I think

So you could have "Hey something is killing our cubes"

Now they gotta find the cube killer, the Otyugh.

[rough basalt]

I think my issue really stems from the fact that I'm trying to think of stuff.

Maybe I should just rob monsters from Pathfinder.

[fossil hollow]

I steal monsters from games i know

mostly Monster Hunter

[rough basalt]

Alot of my creations are just "give something movement, give it advantage, give it magic, give it defenses."

[umbral girder]

Its wild how Lost Mines of Phandelvar only has 27 stat blocks for a whole campaign.

and one of them is Commoner.

[rough basalt]

Phandelver is hilarious

The hardest enemy in the module is optional.

[umbral girder]

Shows off how you can do a game with only a little.

[rough basalt]

Phandelver has a cheat code embedded in it

It's too good of a starter adventure.

You really only have to make subtle changes to fix what little issues it does have.

[umbral girder]

Add a 2nd ||Young Dragon|| /jk

Name it Cryovain

[lavish flame]

Also like... that fights a lil too much

[rough basalt]

Ah yeah Lost Icespire of Mine Peakdelver.

[lavish flame]

My party is just about to finish this adventure!!!

They're actively hunting Cryovain rn

[umbral girder]

I was making a World of Io referenece but good to know

The fact they combined Lost Mines of Phandelvar, Dragons of Icespire Peak, and Tyranny of Dragons is fun

[fossil hollow]

Cryovain iirc is pretty commonly reused throughout early 5e adventures

[atomic kayak]

(DoIP is leagues better than Lost Mines don't @ me)

The only downside of DoIP is that it (less than cleanly) very obviously had its connections to its sequel trilogy severed

[unkempt grove]

I have a new question. Will the Unearthed Arcana subclasses "Pestilence Domain", "Circle of the Titan", "Hell Knight", and "Demonic Sorcery" become official or not?

[fossil hollow]

no idea until a book releases them

[umbral girder]

No one knows

That's why its UA

[rough basalt]

So far they've confirmed and released every subclass that's been in UA since the new team took over.

If that keeps up, probably

[umbral girder]

Uuuhhhh

[lavish flame]

We don't know, but its reasonable to conclude that it will become official. I think everything that has been through UA in the last 5 or so years made it to print

[rough basalt]

Subclasses that matter anyway

Not evil ones trying to fake being good

[atomic kayak]

I dont believe thats the case

[rough basalt]

Cause duh Baldur say it does

[lavish flame]

They made it in some incarnation, sometimes stuff became a different class' subclass, sometimes stuff became Feats.

[rough basalt]

What wasn't printed in 5.5e so far?

[umbral girder]

Hexblade

[fossil hollow]

that was in a UA? Hexblade

[umbral girder]

The dark sun stuff

[rough basalt]

Didn't they say it's gonna be in the Magic Book

[odd valley]

mystic…

[fossil hollow]

Dark Sun stuff is most likely later this year though

[umbral girder]

When?

[atomic kayak]

It also heavily depends on how you are quantifying "when the new team took over"

[onyx haven]

Hexblade is getting printed though? It's in the Arcana book, I thought?

[lavish flame]

Mystic became the 4 Psychic subclasses in Tasha's

[atomic kayak]

Hexblade isn't in the ravenloft book (which is where people expected it)

[onyx haven]

They just moved it off the horror subclasses

[feral fulcrum]

Soon.TM

[rough basalt]

After the corebooks.

[fossil hollow]

They rereleased it in the Arcane UA

[umbral girder]

No as in when did they announce it was for the Arcane book?

[atomic kayak]

I dont think it has been

[rough basalt]

Cause all the FR subs were printed. The new Arty sub was printed. The Horror UA subs as they are currently are being printed in Ravenloft. (Hexblade moved)

[lavish flame]

Yeah I figure itll be in the Arcana book and we might see another UA pass of it. If not that, then some 2027 book. We are absolutely getting a 5.5 Hexblade tho, there's no way they wouldn't reprint it

[rough basalt]

Then Dark Sun book will be announced at gencon if Ravenloft is received well probably

They need the good PR

To survive all the DnDtubers who quit coming back for the "WotC likes Slavery?! Omg not click bait!" Video spam

Since some quit due to the lack of drama and farmable problems in dnd space from WotC decisions cause the only other videos they make are the same videos people have seen for a decade.

[fossil hollow]

yeah, seeing hwo the biggest news recently was the Sellsword stuff

[rough basalt]

Like the one dude nuked his channel cause he switched to "DnD is dying!" Content after 2024 dropped and since the books have been doing well and received well since compared to a few products before the corebooks he hasn't had any ability to clickbait well enough.

[fossil hollow]

which one was that?

[feral fulcrum]

Short-form content is a plague

[rough basalt]

Some old dude. I don't remember his channel name.

[onyx haven]

I'd say that the Evil UA has a good shot at getting published. Though, I'd like them to take another pass at it before then.

[rough basalt]

Apparently he used to make dnd history content before moving into WotC drama vids.

[fossil hollow]

Oh i think i know who you speak of

[onyx haven]

Arcane's the only one they've released updates to.

[umbral girder]

Ah I know too

[rough basalt]

Idk personally I think the Evil UA will happen.

[fossil hollow]

I do think most of the mystic subs has little chance to see print

[rough basalt]

I'm expecting Book of Vile Darkness 5e.

It and Dark Sun are old fan wishes and would get a lot of good will if done right on both.

There's a lot of damage from the past 20 years or so I think theyre trying to fix for good will for the future of the IP.

[onyx haven]

I would just prefer them to not go straight to published. A UA update would be nice, to see how exactly they've recieved feedback on them. Maybe taking another pass at Hellknight that's not just "Apply DOT and go gambling."

[fossil hollow]

it has only been like, several days since the feedback period started, so

[errant whale]

our party of 3 level 1s almost got TPK'ed by 4 goblins that wouldnt roll lower than 15 😭

[fossil hollow]

thats level 1

[errant whale]

thankfully I had 1 hp left and cure wounds while the rest of the party was unconscious

[rough basalt]

Cordell nuking relations with partners when 4e dropped. The 5e three nuking 4e and throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The third party screw-ups, the rushed DMG with monster math they didn't use. Taking 5 years to find a real foundation then screw up badly a few more times including the forbidden event over the last 5 years.

They had a lot of long time damages to start repairing.

[onyx haven]

Sure. It was almost 2 months between the Arcane Subclass UA and its updates. But it was good to see where WOTC was heading. And if the schedule holds, it'll look to be maybe a 2027 halloween release for this Book of Vile Darkness.

[rose wedge]

So next week my party is going against a Knucklavee. How screwed are we.

[onyx haven]

So maybe by end of july, we can get a "Villainous options update!"

[feral fulcrum]

Wheres my Book of Exalted Deeds

[rough basalt]

Idk at this point at the very least I would be very very surprised if Dark Sun isn't the last book this year.

There's just too much blatant arrows pointing towards it without an official confirmation.

Releasing an explicitly Dark Sun UA not long after Crawford was gone. It got received well. 2 months later, renew the Dark Sun IP after it expired a year and a half prior. Then be quiet about it till Gencon, which I would be if I was a company trying to tip toe if I was about to drop a setting where people are enslaved and various species were driven extinct in "cleansing wars" even if the lore is gonna be you fighting against the Sorcerer-Kings and Athas's doomed fate if they treat 4e like it exists which they have so far. (In the corebooks, and Forgotten Realms Guides at least)

[knotty vine]

I just took 60 damage to my max 59 hp

[rough basalt]

Not to mention the Psion UA. And Psionics being to Dark Sun like Syrup is to Pancakes.

[knotty vine]

I love fire ball 5th level

[limber trail]

How on earth did they roll max damage

On 10d6

[rough basalt]

Because they're based.

[feral fulcrum]

Witchcraft

[fossil hollow]

luckj

[feral fulcrum]

Roll those death saving throws

[onyx haven]

Getting to advertise a new class would make any book sell well.

[knotty vine]

Oh 3p

[rough basalt]

Yep. December. Dark Sun, Psion class.
All aboard the hopium express.

And if it crashes I'm going to Pathfinder for the holidays

[meager fractal]

December. When we need the fires the most.

[lavish flame]

yeah, a new class is kinda guranteed to boost book sales

[onyx haven]

If Psion does go in that book. Woohoo, I can play Wolverine 😄

[crisp wave]

Y'all, would this be the correct channel to ask about how to approach my DM regarding some stuff that has been... un-fun lately? This is my first campaign, and I'm not sure if asking about this stuff goes here or in the newcomers channel

[severe rampart]

No, no, there is no channel for that so this is actually the perfect place

Go on, what's on your mind

[crisp wave]

Okay so basically my character is a Bronze Dragonborn Barbarian who devoutly follows Bahamut. One of our party read a cursed book while I was in the room with them, and our DM had us both make Wisdom saves. I failed (obviously, because Barb stats) and it ended up with me basically getting an evil pseudo-god stuck in my head. That's fine, it's a fun conflict. But my problem comes from the fact that the DM is having this pseudo-god control me sometimes. Like in combat, my character just goes lights-out and the god takes over (albeit not all the time, I get to smash heads most of the time). Or the god thinks my character is being stupid (obviously, because Barb stats) and just puts me to sleep for a few hours to shut me up.

I really really don't like having my character's agency taken away like that, but I don't know how to articulate that to my DM

[severe rampart]

okay, first off, clear communication is always the best start

"DM, can I please keep control of my character during combat, and just roleplay him getting possessed by this evil entity?"

[woven flint]

Bird 🫵

[rose wedge]

Oh this is something my DM covered even before our campaign begun. A couple of us are very much against full blown mind control (fine with the odd status effect here and there) but loss of agency was a hard no for us. I'd communicate tha.t

[crisp wave]

Combat is also kinda iffy sometimes, because my DM likes to do a lot of "house rules", like for example my weapon is a magical weapon that does 1d12 bludgeoning and 2d10 radiant damage, but she says that only the radiant damage counts as "magical" so my 1d12 is usually halved because of resistances

But yes, I like the idea of just asking her to let me keep control during combat. I mean, I'm fine with the idea of a devout Good-aligned character having an Evil-aligned minor deity in their head. It's fun. But I don't like not being able to actually play the game sometimes

[flint ledge]

(I still think it's good riddance dnd 5.5 got rid of non magical resistance)

[crisp wave]

Yeah we're in 5e

[severe rampart]

did they?

[knotty vine]

Thats a stupid take

[severe rampart]

I still see it frequently

[knotty vine]

Yes and no the that sort of lanaguage is no longer used in 2024

aka magical and non magical BPS

[rough basalt]

Ye 5.5e monsters just have BPS resistance if they have it.

Which is very rare

[flint ledge]

Figured. I recommend you simply have a talk with your DM about wanting to still control your character even when possessed. For the mechanical thing, is it like her not knowing that's how it works or a conscious choice?

[knotty vine]

Mhm

[rough basalt]

It's mostly swarms of Insects and animals

[cobalt owl]

And even if it still existed, magic weapon is magic weapon

[knotty vine]

I know ghost do

[severe rampart]

that one incredibles meme

[cobalt owl]

Either all of it is magical or none of it is

[rough basalt]

There's a single devil with BPS as well

Chain devil

[knotty vine]

Chain devil right?

ehhh I know my fiends qutie well

Mainly cause I study them a lot

[stoic haven]

even a common magical sword still bypasses nonmagical BPS (which isn't a thing anymore)

[crisp wave]

It's a conscious choice. She does a few things to "handicap" the players with house rules. For example: today we had to deal with a trap that I definitely saw coming, but wasn't allowed to roll my Dex save with advantage (Danger Sense) because this trap was "really fast".

[rough basalt]

There's only 21 to 24 monsters out of 500 in the 5.5 MM that have BPS resistance iirc

[knotty vine]

yup

[woven flint]

The players shouldn't be handicapped imo
They should be allowed to be strong

[knotty vine]

Im so glad they removed Non magical resistnce/immune because it was so boring

[flint ledge]

Probably cause they just directly use monsters from like MMotM

[stoic haven]

That's the point of Danger sense -_-

[rough basalt]

And its like Demilich, Tarrasque, Chain Devil, Ghosts, and swarms of Insects, animals.

[knotty vine]

It just made madsters strong or weak

Demi liches were very strange in 2014 as they were the only monster that were resistant to magical weapon damage

[severe rampart]

What kind of bull is that

[stoic haven]

Danger Sense is like a 6th sense working with your sight, before your actual sight registers it, it feels it

[rough basalt]

Yeah, Demiliches had just pure BPS resistance to make up for their very low health

[severe rampart]

"The trap is fast" "but danger sense" "but the trap is fast"

[rough basalt]

And they kept that

[flint ledge]

That's certainly... a choice.... Did she like announce this sort of thing at the beginning of the campaign?

[knotty vine]

not entirely pure cause spell damage still did full

like cloud of daggers

[stoic haven]

'fireball is fast" "but danger sense" "fireball fast" moment?

[rough basalt]

Yeah 2014 weird

[eager marsh]

handicapping and invalidating player features on a whim is bad DMing and a red flag. Removing player agency is never good

[knotty vine]

Your danger sense doesnt work because the trap is "too fast" sounds like a whole lotta BS

[severe rampart]

Also it's very good roleplay material just going to waste 😔

[stoic haven]

Also, Danger sense is for barbarians, of all things

[crisp wave]

I think she's doing some of this stuff just because she's not... quite... an antagonistic DM but doesn't really want us to succeed "too easily"

[woven flint]

Handcapping your players doesn't make something challenging, it just makes it a slog.

[knotty vine]

I was saw barbarians danger sense as a like.. it works like spider mans thing

[severe rampart]

Then communicate to her

"I like that you're not giving us everything on a silver platter, but sometimes your methods are a bit... unfair"

[eager marsh]

Spidey Sense doesnt make sense either to be fair

[knotty vine]

danger sense is legit the point....

[stoic haven]

only 1 class gets danger sense, so likely only 1 in party is doing it, and tthen only dex saves

[past blaze]

yeah danger sense is
ADV on Dex saves, only ever blocked if you are Incapacitated

[knotty vine]

Its suppose to make it easier for you to pass a dex save

[past blaze]

So the only time you ever don't have danger sense benefitting you as a level 2+ barbarian, is if you have the incapacitated condition
in which case you ask "why am I briefly incapacitated whenever a trap triggers"

[crisp wave]

I will. So it's totally okay for me to just tell her "hey I don't like that I don't get to use Danger Sense because I feel that it's a sixth sense sort of thing and saying a trap is too quick isn't fair"?

[stoic haven]

I've seen this with a DM who religiously hates acrobatic rolls

[severe rampart]

Yeah, but start with the player agency stuff

[feral fulcrum]

Why would anyone hate acrobatic rolls?

[stoic haven]

I have yet to see him ever call for one instead of athletics

[rough basalt]

I've had a DM who would never use Athlethics checks

[crisp wave]

Yeah, that's the big stuff first off. Because I don't like having basically an NPC control me in combat.

[rough basalt]

acrobatics was always the check chosen for anything physical

[severe rampart]

for climbing?

[stoic haven]

because almost entire party has 0 or -1 str

[eager marsh]

you tell her that the rules say you always benefit from Danger Sense unless you are incapacitated and that taking away your agency or your features as written is bad

[cobalt owl]

Some people just dont like em ig

[rough basalt]

or raw strength

[onyx plank]

Twas the night before midwinter and not a player in sight, what goes on in the chat today?

[feral fulcrum]

Acorbatics and Athletics, while they do have some overlap, are definitely for very different things

[severe rampart]

I choose athletics, and only ever do acrobatics if my players ask for it instead
"Roll Athletics" "Can I roll Acrobatics instead?" "Sure go ahead"

[stoic haven]

not just climbing, jumping, hopping, tightrope walking, and more

[rough basalt]

DM would say roll acrobatics for pulling on a rope

[crisp wave]

Thank you guys. It's nice to know that I'm not just being a whiny little baby about this. This is my first experience playing D&D so I'm not 100% familiar with how to draw boundaries with a DM.

[severe rampart]

The dice tell the story

[past blaze]

yeah
"You signed up to govern these features, I signed up to play with these features, why are these features being nullified?"

[cobalt owl]

This does strike me more athletics

[flint ledge]

It definitely would be

[severe rampart]

Everyone at the table should be having fun, including you

[crisp wave]

Someday I want to DM a campaign, but I want some experience as a player first

[severe rampart]

I am moving into just pure DMing

[onyx plank]

Fair, but the best way to start is to get your feet wet

[cobalt owl]

DMs forcibly culling/nerfing/breaking player class features just cuz of "power" or whatever are always cringe

[feral fulcrum]

Acrobatics is for things like Balance, and well...acrobatic acts, though you could also argue Performance for the latter.

[severe rampart]

a campaign of mine cancelled, the DM unfriended and blocked everyone, and the other one is on hiatus right now

[stoic haven]

also, I have repeatedly asked for acrobatics for things that could be either

[woven flint]

If you don't certain want things to be too easy for your players..
Just up the DC of that thing?

[feral fulcrum]

I'll never understand people who do that.

[flint ledge]

Yeah, that's definitely better, I started dnd with DMing and it was a rough beginning

[feral fulcrum]

Both Players and DM's.

[woven flint]

It like.. still gives them a chance AND doesn't make you look like an ass by nerfing them

[stoic haven]

funniest thing is, he keeps calling for acrobatics instead of dex saves then realizes his mistake

[rough basalt]

It's hard to accept that you don't wanna run a game then tell said players it

Easier to ghost

[stoic haven]

so maybe he really only sees acrobatics as a reactionary thing?

[feral fulcrum]

Last minute Ghostings is like, the second biggest "Absolutely Don't, you jerk." Behavior in TTRPG's

[crisp wave]

We did lose one player in this campaign but it had nothing to do with the DM and everything to do with the only place we could all gather for the game was at a friend's house, and she recently bought a pet snake and the player who left has a phobia of snakes

[severe rampart]

They can't muster the strength to just say "I'm sorry, I can't run/I can't play this campaign"

Honestly I don't know why he did that, we (the players) have been so patient and supportive of him

I'm just gonna DM a second game now

[onyx plank]

Give grace, most don't mean to be a burden. It's understandable the frustrations though

[severe rampart]

I'm not too mad about it, honestly

[west timber]

QQ did Dragon Lance come out for ADND/2E or 1E? I bought the Dragonlance Chronicles first saga, book thing. Reading it two chapters a night to pace myself until a big plane ride in two weeks! Anyways I am loving the story so far I'm just wondering what each of the classes seem to be to me

[cobalt owl]

Breaking up over text but it's TTRPGs

[rough basalt]

1e

[west timber]

Tanis is a Ranger it seems, Tassle is more Rouge or Burglar? Flint seems like a fighter, Strumm a Paladin, Camaron could be a fighter or Barbarian? I think that Raistlin is a Wizard?

[onyx plank]

Honestly i wish i discovered dnd way earlier- but i guess a eight years experience isn't that bad.

[feral fulcrum]

Raistlin is very definitely a Wizard

[cobalt owl]

What? It's an accurate analogy

[rough basalt]

yeah I wish i knew of dnd when i was a kid

[west timber]

Yeah I was thinking Wizard or Maybe Warlock...But I'm not aware all the classes that were in 1e lol

[rough basalt]

So i wouldnt be brainrotted and cant think of ideas for my games

[severe rampart]

Oof, just looked at my two active campaigns, looks like I'm only a DM now

[onyx plank]

I was a bit stubborn when i was younger, systems wise i mostly just did whatever was fun for players, but that sort of got iffy when the numbers got really big

[cobalt owl]

I didn't have enough people to ever play with others when I was younger so I didn't play lmao

[flint ledge]

Cursed to forever be a DM

[west timber]

But man the idea of like having one of the first true Clerics in Goldmoon in an age actually being able to hear oooh that's great to think of

[rough basalt]

I couldve gotten the players i think

[cobalt owl]

Also most people don't wanna play with minors so I just didn't.

[rough basalt]

my small little school had kids playing Yugioh and other stuff

[west timber]

So I heard of DND waay back when

[rough basalt]

So it probably wouldnt have been hard to get them to try a different "boardgame"

[west timber]

My first experience was the origonal Aquisitions incorperated stuff

[crisp wave]

Raistlin was very much a Wizard. All his magic came from studying and componnets, no patrons.

[severe rampart]

Here's the two campaigns that are active for me right now
Curse of Strahd (the one I DM), and Infinite Staircase (Three players, theatre of the mind), and one of the players just left Infinite Staircase, so I think the DM might cancel the campaign

[rough basalt]

Rn my minds split

[cobalt owl]

Try not to stop campaign challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[rough basalt]

I got two current campaigns I need to get better at running, and I wanna run a third, but I also wanna play other systems

[severe rampart]

I'm unbelievably frustrated, but I just don't care enough to show it anymore, I'm just gonna be a forever DM and start running a second game!

[west timber]

I wanted to get into a good fantasy novel and I liked the setting of Kirn from the Setting book a while back and so decided to give the actual Dragonlance books a try

[rough basalt]

Hey, that's hell you're walking into.

[onyx plank]

For a time being i had a streak of running a campaign almost everyday, the dnd went on for years but i think it stopped around last year

[west timber]

and hot damn I'm sucked in, only on chapter 5 right now

[onyx plank]

A hefty run

[rough basalt]

My physical and mental health gets in the way

[severe rampart]

then it shall be hell for me

[flint ledge]

I'm hoping I can run my campaigns to the very end, reminds me I should probably message my players about a choice so we don't waste the whole next session doing nothing

[severe rampart]

Would ya look at that, Infinite Staircase is now also on hiatus, but for a good reason at least, oh well

[onyx plank]

Ah yes, I understand. I've ran many homebrew campaigns and worked on systems sometimes it's hard to get players to try something new, though in my case i'm guilty with having many things i wanna try

[rough basalt]

Rn my two campaigns are in my homebrew setting

[onyx plank]

tell me more

[rough basalt]

and its getting to me now that I'm out of a creative hyperfocused state

Both were to try out two of the major countries

[west timber]

I will keep talkin about Dragonlance as I read it more here, cause I feel like its DND related enough

[severe rampart]

No spoilers, though, keep in mind

[west timber]

Oh I also am loving the chapter arts

[west timber]

I will try not to lol

[severe rampart]

that's the setting of one of the campaigns I'm in (that's on hiatus as well)

[west timber]

Yes?

[rough basalt]

One is a Japanese mixed with French culture place thats currently in a cold civil war. The other is in a middle eastern cultured magic country thats suffering from several magic and non-magical issues due to them basically destroying the world 200 years ago, and not having the means to deal with issues as they started so now its piling up. The country's leader destroyed most of the world, his country were mainly victims as well.

[west timber]

Yeah they're great give a real old school fantasy vibe

not looking to do a commision don't dm me

[severe rampart]

if you want to advertise go to #dnd-advertisements .

[west timber]

I am amazed the friend request didnt already come in

[severe rampart]

there's a time and place for everything, and currently it's not here, and not now

[vestal drum]

How exactly does clerics work? I know they are given divine power by their deity. But would there be a lot of fanfare? Or is it just "hey I woke up this morning and God gave me powers" .... or something in between?

[rough basalt]

Depends

[onyx plank]

That's pretty cool setting, I had a session i made. About a abandon gov site, with a silent hill lovecraft twist to it. It was a fun mix. Are you feeling stressed with your setting right now or just feel the desire to start anew?

[severe rampart]

what Sora said

[rough basalt]

First part.

Both games are sandbox hexcrawls largely improv'd and HB of mine is being used

It was fine when i was in a creative state but rn im out of fuel

[flint ledge]

Depends on the setting and DM but typically clerics become those who dedicate their lives to the deity

[west timber]

It all depends on how you wanna roll it, some fun stuff for a Cleric is being a god's chosen champion to grow and have a cool destiny. Thats a plot hook for your DM right there I tell ya what

[onyx plank]

Mm, i see does it feel more like a drag now hosting it? or is it more that you feel more spent than annoyed?

[west timber]

Or like it could be just your faith in your god is so strong you can summon real powers from it

[flint ledge]

(I would avoid this sort of thing at least without asking the DM first.)

[west timber]

I mean yeah but thats a backstory thing you discuss with your DM

[rough basalt]

Spent and annoyed that I'm spent

[feral fulcrum]

Well it's not really a backstory thing so much as a Plot thing, there's a big difference

[west timber]

I for one would be happy to include that as it proivides some good opportunities and stuff

[flint ledge]

Hey if you wanna advertise commissions we have an #dnd-advertisements channel

[rough basalt]

I started making a setting book for my setting and got around 56 pages or so then crash

[west timber]

I disagree, because its how you got your class powers/magic

[vivid pelican]

Imagine spending 1000 gold coins on a random weapon from a vendor just to get a common axe

Could never be me

[flint ledge]

No typically being the chosen of a god is a plot thing inevitably

[vivid pelican]

#highrollergang

[west timber]

I mean its both, a good backstory will play into the plot eventually

[severe rampart]

You what

[feral fulcrum]

Actively being a God's Chosen champion isn't just something that's happened in the past, something like that inherently is an active plot.

[onyx plank]

Well creativity flows naturally my friend, If you can't push it or force it maybe try to find inspiration in media or archetypes. It's fine to take breaks or even ask to do something else if that's more your route. Afterall dming is all about communication and fun

[west timber]

It is, but you could say the same thing about Any given Warlock as they have made their pact

but how they made their pact IS part of their backstory

[vivid pelican]

There was this vendor that was selling mystery chests with the chance to get a legendary weapon and one of my players just said "let's go gambling!" And wasted his entire earnings through this 2 week campaign to buy a chest only to get a common axe

[rough basalt]

Well unfortunately not for me. For me creativity comes in monthly to bimonthly sprints.

[west timber]

you got Gotchad

[feral fulcrum]

The point I'm trying to make here, is "I'm god's special little boy." Is something that's Inherently very Main Charecter Syndrome'y, and one should be very careful with that.

[severe rampart]

That was a scam, there was no legendary weapon

[rough basalt]

And as soon as anything happens that knocks me out of it, I gotta wait another month to month and a half.

[severe rampart]

they got... Gacha'd

[onyx plank]

Don't worry friend i don't mean to make it sound like it's easy or swift, I just mean make sure you're still having fun, you don't wanna burn out on something you care about or enjoy.

[rough basalt]

Usually drastic weather that triggers my allergies or I get sick another way

[vivid pelican]

Then, another payer bought the same chest and got an epic weapon

If anyone wants to use my sub-ironic plot, I have some ideas

[feral fulcrum]

I don't think anyone particularly wants to roleplay Lootbox scams in D&D

[severe rampart]

I mean, if you have like thousands of gold, I suppose that's something you can spend it on

[feral fulcrum]

I think we got another bot

[west timber]

I think its funny

[leaden galleon]

Has there been a comparison or a contrast of the domains in the old Ravenloft book to the new one? Are the genre explanations and lore going to be largely the same?

[onyx plank]

Dnd lootboxes is a new one i can't lie.

[west timber]

I'd laugh when my DM brought it up in alighter campaign

[rough basalt]

There's gonna be more lore for each dreadlord as well as a one shot for each of them besides Strahd obviously

[vivid pelican]

It wasn't though. It's just the rarity to get one is the same as Micheal Jackson doing the macarena at the foot of your bed while Santa claus makes the sun explode all while the rapture is happening

[severe rampart]

I wanna run another campaign now... hm... Lost Mines or Homebrew?

[rough basalt]

The dreadlords are getting their own statblocks too I believe instead of "use this statblock"

[west timber]

TBH I could see a Church of Dinonysus or other sort of Gambling Adjacent gods running a divine lootbox kinda thing

[feral fulcrum]

The lost mines are not very lost when people keep finding them

[severe rampart]

Indeed

[rough basalt]

Fun fact, its just the one Mine actually

Lost Mines just sounds better

[severe rampart]

The Lost Mine of Phandelver

[rough basalt]

I think it is just called that

[west timber]

This is what Martin Luther wanted to stop btw

[feral fulcrum]

How did Phandelver lose a whole mine

[severe rampart]

Do I run Lost Mines or dive head first into homebrew

[feral fulcrum]

It's a hole in the ground, how do you lose that?

[leaden galleon]

Man, I already feel like a sucker buying this book again!

[rough basalt]

Cause theyre called Phandalin, not Phandelver, not their mine

[severe rampart]

Because of my Wave Cave

[west timber]

I mean you could designate each mine shaft as its own mine

[feral fulcrum]

That's like telling a Dwarf that each of their beard hairs is it's own beard.

[rough basalt]

I'm a happy sucker, 150 dollars to wizards of the coast

[feral fulcrum]

As long as the products actually worth it, and not a blatant low effort scam with no heart in it

[flint ledge]

"If you get nothing for 100 loot boxes, I'll give you a pity magic item"

[feral fulcrum]

Looking at you Spelljammer, you flaming dumpster fire

[vivid pelican]

Imagine a chapel, a symbol of pure holy power, housing the core of all of the evil that is plaguing the land. Pretty ironic right? How a place supposed to be holy and supposed to be a symbol of peace being the patient zero ground of all the evil your party goes through.

[severe rampart]

Okay how did you steal my session notes, hand it over

[west timber]

I mean it depends on the god

[onyx plank]

I can see it now a cleric named Chance Windfall

[vivid pelican]

No! Don't steal my ironic sub plots!

Nooooo!

[severe rampart]

Yours? I've been planning this for weeks!

[vivid pelican]

At least give me recognition

[severe rampart]

I've built the boss in it and the music, the lair actions, legendary actions, etc.

[severe rampart]

No

[vivid pelican]

Like every dungeon they go through, have a mysterious melon on a table that no one can move

[west timber]

Brilliant

[vivid pelican]

GO AHEAD! TAKE MY SUBPLOTS! I HAVE THE INSTRUMENT TO MAKE MORE! 🧠

[west timber]

Anyways

[severe rampart]

the urge to buy Foundry is stronger than ever

[leaden galleon]

The one shots better be more than, get attacked by 4 Kuo-toa, then 4 sahuagin, then Cuthulu appears.

The Faerun adventures were a bit thin.

[west timber]

when the forward in my big dragonlance book collection talked about how it would be perfect for a movie I thought it was exaggerating, but no like 5 chapters in and I can alerady see it in my mind

[flint ledge]

Sometimes I wonder if spelljammer is part of the reason that wotc has hardly been producing adventure books

[rough basalt]

Well its probably gonna be simple stuff like that

Since they are one shots

[west timber]

they provided enough inpsiration for me to think of more stuff at least and it was like 4 adventures per reigon, plus the reigons themselves

[rough basalt]

But part of that is you can take the ideas and use them elsewhere with deeper use

Like the FR adventures are meant to be either one shots or slotted into FR games

[rough basalt]

Vecna is probably a bigger reason

[west timber]

I loved the FR books personally

[feral fulcrum]

I don't think Spelljammer had anything to do with that, I think it's entirely due to their focus having shifted to 5.5E

[rough basalt]

Last full written adventure was a complete mess that got ripped apart online pretty rightfully

[feral fulcrum]

And managing the entire...mess that it was.

5.5 was absolutely not really ready to meet the deadline they wanted. Which is why they had the whole publishing mess.

[leaden galleon]

I like them, I just don’t want that adventure template to be what WOTC uses moving forward

[rough basalt]

I like it for the setting guides

[feral fulcrum]

With release delays and them ditching their printer for another company. If I'm rembering it right

[west timber]

fair, but I also think its fair that the FR books were setting guides, not adventures themselves

[severe rampart]

Should I just run lost mines of phandelver or run homebrew? I just want to run a second campaign right now, more than anything

[west timber]

They exist to provide inpsiration and basic stuff for the others

I mean the book itself made me start a Daleands campaign and I am loving it

[onyx plank]

I mean i'm not quite sure of what the lost mines is, buuut I mean if you run a campaign already made that's less work on the homebrew side less that's what you enjoy doing in which case homebrew.

[rough basalt]

Ye it is the best FR guide in over 20 years

Which isnt saying much, but its good that it is

[west timber]

I really enjoyed the gods section of the player book

[rough basalt]

Cause its competition was SCAG and the 4e Forgotten Re gag guide

[vivid pelican]

The full plot of the campaign isn't the fact that the chapel is the place of most evil, its that you need to defeat the final boss to get the key to unlock a ritual room in the forgotten mines where they you need to kill the tormented gladiator to get access to the door to then reach the altar to break the crystal of destruction to free the land

[umbral girder]

They are just one shots for DM sourcebooks. They clearly still make regular style adventures.

Adventure’s in Faerun even has its own example. And of course Dragon Delves.

[west timber]

Like almost every PC in my Daleands campaign is actively following an worshiping a god of their own, and only ONEs a cleric

and like thats cool I am not used to that happening

[rough basalt]

Its just good

cause DnD i feel like should be settings and stuff

not "theres a multiverse, heres the bare minimum make your own shit up"

[west timber]

I also have Myth Dranor as a looming like, goal for the party to work towards

Still have made up my own BBEG and plots and stuff to fill in the setting but the setting book provided me a lot to work with

[onyx plank]

I do think settings are quite important, most stories begin in one, i suppose the benefit of having a pre-established one is more world history.

[rough basalt]

Like if players wanna run games in FR they shouldnt have been forced to use third party or old edition books

[vivid pelican]

T H E C R Y S T A L D E M A N D S A S A C R I F I C E.

[rough basalt]

I think that was why the WotC of 08 to 24 hated settings

cause they were old and the history was deep and engrained.

[umbral girder]

looks at SCAG and Spelljammer

[west timber]

I also dont want to spend a ton of work homebrewing my own setting and world if I am being completely honest, wanna focus my energy on teh stuff my players are likely to encounter

[rough basalt]

4e FR Guide being the Original Sin

[west timber]

so having a bunch of stuff I can structure thigns around helps a lot

[onyx plank]

I think that's sort of the fun in dnd, crafting tales of your own even in pre established stories, (assuming they don't give multi-choice reactions) It can branch off just from the players taking part in it.

[rough basalt]

Like the only setting in 5es duration that had the only good setting guide was Eberron

Until Sigil which was better than Spelljammer but not quite it

[west timber]

I enjoyed Theros but thats my bias and love of greek myth speaking

[rough basalt]

It did what Spelljammer officially "tried to do"

Brought new fans while appeasing old fans "enough"

[rough basalt]

Well i shouldve clarified i mean DnD settings not MTG ones added to dnd

[west timber]

Yeah, and a good setting book helps me put in what I wanna put in while still having fun with my players

[west timber]

Fair enough....I really enjoy theros though ugh its a fun setting

[rough basalt]

Like all Dragonlance got was a 1 to 10 adventure

All FR got was SCAG and modules for sword coast areas primarily

All Greyhawk got was Ghosts of Saltmarsh and other anthologies with Greyhawk adventures in them

[west timber]

And some new subclasses, and feat trees and some other stuff

but I would like a deeper Kirn setting now that I am reading dragonlance lol

[rough basalt]

They got a sub a lot of people probably dont know exists

[feral fulcrum]

I yearn for something like Pathfinder's Tian xia guide, but that's not happening with DND 🙁

[rough basalt]

Ye

[west timber]

Lunar Sorcery is cool

[rough basalt]

I mean current wotc might do it at some point

[umbral girder]

Maybe we get Radiant Citadel 2

[rough basalt]

But I wouldn't hold out hope for a culturally respectful Kara-Tur guide

Some of the old guys might sneak in for another Oriental Adventures 3 Electric Boogathree to create some new drama

[feral fulcrum]

I was thinking more the Depth and Breadth of expasion locations and fluff, more then Eastern-themed, to clarify.

Something with waaaaaay more meat on it's bones

[rough basalt]

Yeah since Tian Xia is a whole continent

[onyx plank]

Honestly, getting into dnd really opened up the flood gates of crpg for me

[lavish flame]

everybody likes art

[west timber]

I hope that WOTC isn't scared of doing non European Settings out of fear od doing them wrong

[rough basalt]

I respect Pathfinder for making the most american analogue of america in Golarion with no blatant bias

[feral fulcrum]

I'm like 90% sure that's a scam bot you're replying to, but I could be wrong.

[umbral girder]

Gwyn feeding the trolls today

[lavish flame]

prolly

[west timber]

Might not be a bot? I'm surpsied they are heading to DMs though thats where I get most of those messages

[plain zenith]

Cant eat a fish but you can fish a tuna

[lavish flame]

this is one message chill on me

[rough basalt]

its a new account that's constantly badgering people about art and if they want it

[feral fulcrum]

Hey friend do you desire to CONSUME PRODUCT? Like 9 out of 10 times it's a blatant red flag.

[flint ledge]

Well unless someone installed a chatbot into the account I doubt it

[west timber]

Right, I usually get those in my DMs from these DND servers lol

[flint ledge]

I would advise you not advertise here to not be smited by a mod

[lavish flame]

Admittedly in this age, thats not terribly difficult to do

[rough basalt]

This ones probably got someone directly in charge of it

[feral fulcrum]

Bots are getting ever more common as the years go on.

[glass granite]

Am I real I wonder?

[feral fulcrum]

Do you dream of electric, polymorphed sheep?

[west timber]

So wait

in 1e

[umbral girder]

No they clearly dream of lightning Shapechanged sheep /jk

[glass granite]

My autognome does, not me

[west timber]

Werent elf and dwarf their own classes or was I misinformed?

[rough basalt]

yeah elf was a class at least

[umbral girder]

In BECMI I think they were

[rough basalt]

but i think that was basic

[umbral girder]

But in AD&D (aka 1e) they weren’t

[feral fulcrum]

"Father I want to be an elf." "You can't just grow pointy ears and suddenly have instinctive knowledge of swords!"

[lavish flame]

Elf, Dwarf, and Halfling were all classes originally, but not in 1e. By 1e we had Race+Class as two seperate choices to make.

[umbral girder]

It was amusing to see an Elf cannot become a wizard in AD&D

[west timber]

Ah...Is that why Tanis being a Half Elf is a kinda big deal? Treated as its own thing like Fighter and Mage?

[feral fulcrum]

No, that was more just typical Mixed-race drama.

[west timber]

currently reading the origonal dragonlance chronicles book, figuring out how to translate my own 5e brain into 1e vibes lol

[lavish flame]

No, being a Half Elf was a big deal. D&D fantasy at the time basically had Elves and Humans live far away from each other and were fairly mustrusting of one another. It would have been a shock to have someone come from parents of both species.

[rough basalt]

Ye cause at the time they were very LotR influenced

[west timber]

Wasn't Areowin's Dad a Half Elf?

[rough basalt]

Tho Greyhawk and FR got wacky

[west timber]

Ok so would...Ranger as a class have existed then cause I do get those vibes from Tanis though...Maybe they are more of a Fighter cause I'm not getting any magic from them

[rough basalt]

Ranger was a subclass

[umbral girder]

Last I checked Half Elf was a PHB race in AD&D

[rough basalt]

At the time Ranger was a subclass of Fighter

[umbral girder]

Half orc too

[west timber]

Gotcha

[rough basalt]

I think Paladin was too.

[west timber]

Well in 1e there were less main classes overall right?

[umbral girder]

Druid being a cleric sub too

[west timber]

Fighter Thief Wizard and Cleric right?

[lavish flame]

according to the Dragonlance wiki, Tanis was a Half-Elf Fighter

[umbral girder]

Yeah it was Fighterman, Magic User, Priest

Years later the Thief was added

[west timber]

I think Tassle gives me Thief vibes for sure

Rass gives Wizard of course

everyone else seems to be various flavors of fighter lol

[rough basalt]

At the time the game was pretty much just fighting as the main draw with roleplay being a supplement to it.

[umbral girder]

Yeah Dragonlance was after the og D&D time

[west timber]

I do love that Strum has beautiful armor and a curly moustache, it is a wondeful visage

[umbral girder]

Dragonlance was AD&D time

When it became a commercial game

[west timber]

And I really can see the persuasion check in chapter 3

||when Tanis has to convince Strum to run with them by saying the Lady/An innocent needs to be protected. Superseeding his code not to run from such weak enemies with his code to protect|| its so ugh perfect and in character

[rough basalt]

One thing about 1e I believe it was I liked was needing certain prerequisites met to go beyond certain levels.

Like Fighters needed to be a Lord of a country or something

[umbral girder]

Bard in AD&D’s PHB was amusing

It was a triple Multiclass

[rough basalt]

Bard in an AD&D like situation reminds me of a TSR era dnd style extraction game where you could play a bard

[umbral girder]

Gotta be a Fighter, Thief, Druid to become a Bard

[rough basalt]

I went around bashing goblins and other players over the head with my lute

[limber trail]

Druid is surprising

[lavish flame]

Idk if I'd agree with this assessment. I don't think the game was really about fighting until as late as AD&D2e. 1e characters mostly just turn into blood and guts when they try fighting things. I figure thats the game telling you to avoid that outcome and instead sneak around or speak with the monsters.

[limber trail]

would've more expected wizard

[rough basalt]

Yeah true.

[umbral girder]

Getting those healing and buff spells

[rough basalt]

2e you started fighting after a certain level

[limber trail]

guess that makes some sense

[rough basalt]

Once your Wizard could cast stoneskin you could sit back and watch them kill everything

[umbral girder]

With their d4 hit dice

[west timber]

I am going to enjoy dragonlance as a fantasy novel

and as a dnd player seeing some of the origin tropes and like, feel of dnd for playing it for so long

[rough basalt]

AD&D 2e Stoneskin made you invulnerable to anything but spells

[west timber]

After this I might try some of the Drizztd novels

[rough basalt]

For a certain amount of attacks equal to your 1d4 + two times your level in casting class.

[feral fulcrum]

It's kind of silly to think that D&D at any point, wasn't really focused on fighting. Given it's roots lay in Wargaming.

[rough basalt]

2e spells are really ridiculous

[west timber]

I mean you could say the focus turend from fighting for fightings sake to fighting for a purpose

if that makes sense at all lol

[rough basalt]

When someone says "dnd 2e was protect your wizard till they got to higher levels" they weren't kidding.

[umbral girder]

Amusing since old war gaming wasn’t too much on fighting either as it was mainly about communication and how it can go horribly wrong.

TTRPGs gots neat history

[lavish flame]

I definitely don't think 1e featured much "fighting for fighting's sake" as you'd simply perish if you did that

[west timber]

Fair

I do wonder if books like Dragonlance influenced DND going into the more narative heavy games we see today

[rough basalt]

Oilskin is a very funny spell

Basically makes rain not touch you

So you can see better in the rain

Also affects fog, hail

[west timber]

I was imagianing the Greased up deaf guy from Family guy

[flint ledge]

Sorry what

What'd I miss all of a sudden

[rough basalt]

Huh Circle of Preservation Druid has some roots in Dark Sun 2e as well

[west timber]

I was talking about reading dragonlance, then the conversation turned to dnd1e from there and then from there old spells

[rough basalt]

There was a Wizard class from Dark Sun 2e called Preserver

Who preserved what was left of nature while also drawing from it.

Rather than just Defiling it like the Defiler

There was a spell called Hair which was basically a Barber spell

[onyx haven]

The sorceror king patron was a neat one, that I'll be happy to have published. 😄 I love me my warlocks. Gimme all the warlocks!

[flint ledge]

500 warlocks

[onyx haven]

Out of the 6 sheets I've got on DDB. 4 are warlocks lol

[flint ledge]

I think someone prefers warlocks... Just a theory...

[onyx haven]

[knotty cipher]

I finaly did it!!!!
I beat murkal in honor mode!!!!

[onyx haven]

Nice. 😄

[ripe crystal]

Hey, I’ve got a bit of a situation. A new player just joined one of my groups today—we literally just wrapped the session.

He’s playing a very sci-fi, futuristic character in what is otherwise a fantasy setting. The idea is that he comes from an extremely distant future—like quadrillions of years ahead—and somehow ended up back in the past, where the world is still ruled by gods and monsters.

I allowed it because I thought it could be a really cool way to show what the far future of the world might look like. But the rest of the players are pretty skeptical about it (which I get).

Now I’m wondering how to handle this before it turns into a bigger issue. Should I have him rework or replace the character, or just let it play out and see where it goes?

What would you do in this situation?

[past blaze]

Rework the character idea into an Artificer perhaps, with glimpses of the future inspiring their engineering

[fair summit]

Yeah it can definitely be distracting for the players looking to play a fantasy game to have a futuristic character just hanging around, so I also understand your other players

I'd talk to the player and suggest them changing their character either to a new one, or change the current one to fit the game better

[limber trail]

Sometimes you as a DM might want to step in and say “hey, that character is awesome but it doesn’t fit this setting and campaign”.

Now, I wouldn’t do this often, but sometimes where it’s irreconcilable, you’re justified to say “hey, this isn’t the right game for this type of character”

[ripe crystal]

yeah ill do that i just feel bad cause its on me sense i aloud them to do it in the first place. thanks for the opinion it helped.

[glad ferry]

Anyone here use fizbans treasury of dragons

[feral fulcrum]

Just keep in touch with the rest of the group, and listent to their suggestions and feelings on the matter. If it turns out to be an actual issue with then, then the new player is simply just going to have to try a different charecter. Because everyone should be having fun, not just one person.

[cinder timber]

I would rework rather than replace. He can have visions of what he was doing in the future, but have it where is character is sent back in time but not in futuristic. He is a fantasy version of him.

[lavish flame]

always

[glad ferry]

Been tempted to get it

[ripe crystal]

@cinder timber yeah i think thats what were gonna go for when i speak to them. is just reworking it

[glad ferry]

Plus it will help me with making the amethyst dragon for my lawless town. As for futuristic stuff it doesnt always fit the esthetic of fantasy

[cinder timber]

I had a similar issue tbh. I think the middle ground is let them be from the future, but the character is not futuristic in a fantasy setting if that makes sense.

[glad ferry]

Meaning materials available, and having to adjust to whats available in that time?

[lavish flame]

I'd rework stuff tbh. Maybe the future is like Caveman/Post-Apoc because the villain of your campaign was never stopped, so through some X-Men Days of Future Past magic nonsense, he's sent his mind backward in time to try and help stop your villain's scheme. Maybe he's not from the future, but recieves visions from the future that offer him knowledge and guidance.

If its taking the other players out of the experience, stuff should prolly get reworked or removed.

[cinder timber]

That's a great idea, way better than what I was gonna suggest

[ripe crystal]

yeah the player wants to basically be reze from chainsaw man ( havent watched it) but like the bomb devil version and is really stuck on the head piece and visuals of that.

i can very easyily make that a fantasy vibe but its the visuals hes stuck on

[lavish flame]

Thats just a bulbous helmet

[cinder timber]

Another suggestion is he can be in the past and have these vivid memories and dreams about the future that he doesnt know what they mean. Maybe, he discovers who he is and that he doesn't belong to this time as the campaign progresses!

[lavish flame]

blimp shaped helmet shouldnt be too crazy, given the goofy ass helmet shapes that existed all throughout everywhere irl and in D&D

[ripe crystal]

its not just the helmet but that was a big thing for him. its this mechanical dort of vibe but i will work with him thank you both

[wicked mortar]

Did anyone else get a message FR from "Joy"?

[cinder timber]

Of course bro. Also, when you rework it, try to avoid making it too main-characteresque

[ripe crystal]

how do you mean? like main character syndrom stuff

[lavish flame]

nah, prolly a scam tho

[past blaze]

Getting too deadset on emulating something from a franchise as a D&D character can be an issue

[odd valley]

no i got one from an evelyn

[lavish flame]

this is a concern of mine tbh

[wicked mortar]

Huh. Just me then.

[reef tundra]

Ah, do not do business with this Evelyn, they were soliciting on another dnd server, they are very likely an art scammer

[odd valley]

yeah no i declined it

[reef tundra]

Good

Actually I should give the mods here a heads up

[lavish flame]

agreed, its easy to get wrapped up in the idea of being anything in D&D, but D&D does aim for a specific kind of "anything". If you try to be Luffy from One Piece or Real-Life Christiano Ronaldo in D&D, you'll probably feel friction with the game, the other players, or the DM.

[past blaze]

Yeah, it's better at "making anything to be" rather than "emulating anything"

[onyx lion]

Hey I'm just getting into Dungeons and dragons after a long break of I guess you could say more important stuff and I was wondering if anyone has a campaign I can play in

[past blaze]

You'd want to use #find-a-game as that and its subsidiary channels are where game finding is done

[lavish flame]

people probably do in #looking-for-players but those channels are like uber weird to use, so reading thru #find-a-game first might be needed

[onyx lion]

I tried but nones responding I think they reached their player limit

[past blaze]

D&D isn't a very instant thing

[lavish flame]

It might be that (in which case, I'd try r/lfg on Reddit), it might also just be late and people went to bed

[onyx lion]

For me it's 4:00 pm

[lavish flame]

ah, in the US its anywhere from 12am-3am, so a lot of the posters there are fast asleep

[past blaze]

And for others it may not be

And either way, expecting to find a game within a day is incredibly unlikely to pay off

[onyx lion]

Oh that's kinda sad lol I just finished making an entire character sheet cause I got random motive to play DnD lol but thanks for trying to help at least

[lavish flame]

itll take some time to get into a game. also, people usually want to make characters for the first time together. i guess its a social ritual of play

[reef tundra]

A good metaphor is that finding a group in dnd is like dating

[fair summit]

Also so that the characters fit the game itself

So even if you've already got a sheet, it night need to be chabged if the DM disallows something

[lavish flame]

Usually you dedicate a whole session (colloquially called Session 0) to character creation, campaign pitches, content you're comfortable with, what the world you'll be playing in is like, what game rules you'll be running with. All the pre-game logistics and stuff happens then.

[paper portal]

oh that was a metaphor? whoops /silly

[reef tundra]

Well, if you’re happy with them then I suppose it was a happy accident 😭

[cloud bison]

Whats an effect that blinds?

[past blaze]

Oh, there are a lot
Easiest example is the Blindness/Deafness spell, choosing Blindness.

[limber trail]

blinding smite comes to mind

[cloud bison]

are there any 5.5 species with once per day features?

[limber trail]

Orc's Relentless Endurance comes to mind

Human's free inspiration is technically once per day

many innate spells are once per day too

Celestial revelation and draconic flight, healing hands too

there's a bunch

[sweet osprey]

I have inspirations and ideas for another Tiefling. But if i make noise the kittens wake up

I want a Tiefling only campaign. But only one party member is that One human that they keep

[grave sleet]

lol good idea

[sweet osprey]

Ye, be cool to see Tieflings in other classes

[grave sleet]

I usually always play the least human characters. My favorite is rat folk bc I love them so much

[flint ledge]

500 Tiefling warlocks

[sweet osprey]

Or multi class lets say
Bard artificer

Their outfits be the coolest

[grave sleet]

I forget which version lets you play as an insect but I want to be a weevil lady so bad 😭

They are the beetles with long nose looking things.

[sweet osprey]

Rhino beetle?

I could design a race when i get more paper

[grave sleet]

no not those but they are also so cute

[sweet osprey]

Hmmm

[grave sleet]

I’ll send a picture

oof I can’t

[sweet osprey]

Rhinotia hemisticta

[surreal rivet]

Hows everyones day?

[sweet osprey]

Tired

I havent slept yet

[surreal rivet]

Hmm have you tried sleep?

[sweet osprey]

Kittens bout 2 weeks old. I just fed them and put them to bed. Again

[grave sleet]

Those are a type of weevil! Acorn weevil are my favorite

[sweet osprey]

I have to give them to foster. Cause i cant handke the stress

[surreal rivet]

Dang, good luck then

[grave sleet]

People adopt kittens more than older cats. I’m sorry you’re having a hard time though.

[remote wadi]

Depends on the players and tieflings. But I could be the human

[grave sleet]

That’s the cutest name ever

Marmalade

[sweet osprey]

Gn

[surreal rivet]

Thank you alot! I like your name too!

[surreal rivet]

Good night

[remote wadi]

Gn

[grave sleet]

Good night 🩷

It’s currently 4AM for me 🥲

[surreal rivet]

Go to bed

[flint ledge]

Might be too late at 4 AM

[grave sleet]

Whaaaat and stop drawing yaoi on my ipad???

[surreal rivet]

Shhhh i fell asleep today at 6 and woke up at 9

[surreal rivet]

No keep going i said nothing

[grave sleet]

It’s Good Omens and Hitchhikers guide

[remote wadi]

Is my discord app possessed? It always jumps to messages like these

[grave sleet]

Hahaha!

[flint ledge]

It might be a sign...

[remote wadi]

Don't even. Not interested.

[surreal rivet]

Anyyways i had this campign planned out last winter but i lost all the paper work and map i worked on

Im sad bout it

[grave sleet]

NOO! That sucks

But when I lost my last story and rewrote it from scratch it actually came out much better

[surreal rivet]

Danggg the thing there wasent one story, it was a world map with 8 smth interconecting stories, and it was dynamic so that things changed depending on how the players played.

[grave sleet]

DMing is doing god’s work. Like that’s extremely impressive.

[surreal rivet]

Yeahh it was ment to be reusable and include others players, theire deaths and more, insted of a premade story they kinda make theire own yk?

[grave sleet]

Yeah I gotcha. I only did a one shot with some people to teach them about everything so I’m probably not equipped to help. But I still think you’re cool and creative as heck.

[surreal rivet]

Its all good man il just start agine.

[grave sleet]

I’m gonna go try and sleep

[surreal rivet]

Good luck and sweet dreams

[flint ledge]

A joke.

[remote wadi]

Had better be

[surreal rivet]

Are you sombody i used to know?

Yk thr song? Il see myself out now

[flint ledge]

I did the name before I knew the song actually

[surreal rivet]

Oh dang, well done ngl its like being called rick roll before knowing what a rick roll is

[restive blade]

Is it fine if I flavor my character to appear he’s not wearing heavy armor, while still having the mechanics of it? Ac, disadvantage on stealth, weak to heat metal etc etc

[flint ledge]

Ask your DM I'd say

[surreal rivet]

If i was your dm sure but ask your dm

[restive blade]

Yeah that’s fair

[surreal rivet]

[restive blade]

Im going for a samurai wanderer kind of character so a whole suit of heavy armor clashes with the aesthetic lmao

[surreal rivet]

Yk some samurai did pretty heavy armor so it dosent crasg that much but i get it

[fair summit]

Samurai? The ones very much famous for their unique armor? (:

[restive blade]

He’s too kewl for clunky armor /j

But yeah, samurai do have amazing looking armor

[remote wadi]

I have a suggestion

You could reflavor a tiefling with a maul as an Oni using a kanabo

[restive blade]

New character idea for sure

[flint ledge]

Aren't Onis actual creatures?

[restive blade]

I think ogres would be the closest thing to an Oni actually, but yeah I think they are

And idk if you can play as Oni unless you’re using homebrew rules

[remote wadi]

I mean, we are already talking about reflavoring

Half Orc, maybe?

[flint ledge]

Yeah Onis are just actual creatures. They're in the 2014 basic rules

[remote wadi]

Ah

[humble cairn]

Correct, but if you wanted to play one you'd have to reflavor as it isn't a playable species.

[remote wadi]

Anyways, someone tried sending me in dms one of those videos about dnd with the same "best ranger build is not playing ranger" gag

[humble cairn]

And actually, Tieflings in the 2024 PHB are described as taking after fiends of any sort. If Oni are fiends, a Tiefling could certainly have Oni features.

[remote wadi]

It always makes me laugh a little seeing those because people keep thinking all there is to ranger is just smacking anything that moves with SS hand crossbows

[humble cairn]

"I'm going to make a very narrow definition of what I think 'Ranger' means and when the class doesn't meet my definition I'm going to say it fails." bla bla, I've heard it many times.

[remote wadi]

It was basically someone trying to use Samurai Fighter and load up on as many SS hand crossbow attacks as possible

[humble cairn]

Ah, so their definition of Ranger is "The bow is my entire personality."

Boring

[remote wadi]

I mean, you basically have to burn an Action Surge and BA to get 7 attacks when Ranger with an Assassin dip already gets 4 of those and also crits with them all

They don't realize that their initiative will also be considerably worse unless they burn an extra feat

And since this build is at level 15 minimum, they also have 2 other pretty important things Ranger has

[cinder timber]

could be interesting

[remote wadi]

Those being 3rd/4th level spellcasting

And a much better Dex save

[humble cairn]

But it's not the entirety of what a Ranger encompasses.

[remote wadi]

By the way, I did also want to ask

Why is one of the Rogue's saves Int?

[humble cairn]

Game balance

Every class got one common and one uncommon saving throw.

[cinder timber]

oh i thought u was talking about his story and such

[remote wadi]

Sure, but why Int? Why not Chr?

[humble cairn]

Arbitrary

I mean ok so maybe there was some other reasoning behind it, but as far as I know it has never really been revealed.

[remote wadi]

Nah, just some video online about some guy doing the "best ranger build is not playing ranger" junk again

[cinder timber]

oh, i see. i abandoned the idea of trying to do the best build

[remote wadi]

No, there's a difference between trying to go for a hyper optimal build and trying to do the same algorithm stuff of "Ranger so bad, Fighter make Ranger build better"

[limber trail]

Part of it is that there’s a lot of charisma saving throw proficiencies among classes, int saves are a little less common

[humble cairn]

Do you want there to be an explanation? Would that make it more satisfying for you?

[flint ledge]

I feel like a lot of people just don't even play ranger and say ranger bad

[hot marlin]

Consider the stereotypical rogue. Ignore the rules for a second, think narrative and character. Do you think it makes more sense for the rogue to see through an illusion or for the rogue to have enough willpower to avoid being teleported?

[humble cairn]

Same. So many people just echo the internet anti-hype.

[humble cairn]

To me the difference between the two is highly arbitrary.

[hot marlin]

It is highly abitrary, yes.

[remote wadi]

I mean, sure. But Int saves are also quite uncommon. If memory serves, least common of the 6 by a good margin

[remote wadi]

Doesn't need to be. I'm just trying to unwind, possibly clear my mind a bit

[lyric roost]

Witch channel would i go to for advice with homebrew?

[remote wadi]

#homebrew

[limber trail]

Well yeah - which is why they give it to classes like rogue

[remote wadi]

Too many. It's a very fun class that is a lot more of a Swiss army knife than people give them credit for

My only complaint is that Gunslinger is also ultra fun to play

Perhaps a small problem is that they make a lot of spells Wisdom save when some maybe shouldn't

A good example possibly being Dominate Person

[humble cairn]

Yeah, every class basically got one common save and one uncommon save. Rogue just ended up with Int.

Also, which effects are resisted by which saving throws is ... also arbitrary.

[remote wadi]

Agreed

[flint ledge]

Dominate person is probably a wisdom save cause it's typically a charm?

[remote wadi]

I mean, you are establishing a telepathic connection to someone and giving them orders. Basically just mind control

Wisdom saving throw

[humble cairn]

The new direction that WOTC is going with third party content feels to me like they are having their cake and eating it, too. Third party stuff gets to take the risks and innovate, while official content gets to stay safe.

[remote wadi]

I mean, sure. But there's so many opportunities for some third party classes like Artificer, Pugilist, and Gunslinger

[humble cairn]

Opportunities for what, exactly?

[remote wadi]

Just wish they weren't only third parties

[humble cairn]

Wait, Artificer is official not third party.

[flint ledge]

Artificer isn't third party

You can't even make third party paid artificer content unless you're the eberron creators

[humble cairn]

See the thing is, there is value in them being third party. Third party companies can experiment and do fun stuff that doesn't have to be as rigorously balanced, while official stuff can be less experimental, giving DM's excuses to stick to the official stuff while only allowing third party material on a case-by-case basis.

It's pretty win-win.

[remote wadi]

Well, sure. But then it becomes a toss of the dice for whether it will actually be allowed

[humble cairn]

No, it becomes a consideration of the DM and group to have a discussion about.

[cloud bison]

The more they try to shove that bg3 vampire down my throat, the more I want to scream

[silk hare]

wym

[remote wadi]

Asterion?

[cloud bison]

I’m tired of seeing him EVERYWHERE

[remote wadi]

Fair enough, fair enough

[flint ledge]

You mean astarion's book of Hungers?

[silk hare]

I mean he IS one of the most popular characters that came outta that game soooo

[remote wadi]

I will have to admit, though. It can be a little bit annoying sometimes, but the VA deserves all the praise they get

[flint ledge]

True the VA nailed it

[cloud bison]

He was in that live play earlier, they put him in a book, now they’re digging him up for another live play (supposedly they’re gonna do a Netflix show he’s gonna be in also but will never actually get made)

I didn’t like him in the game, I didn’t like him in the book (that was weird) and him being in the live play just means I’m not gonna watch it

[humble cairn]

It's very handy for a DM to be able to say something like "official stuff only" or even "PHB only" when they are just starting out so they don't have to know every single book out there.

[silk hare]

yeah exactly

also people are also already confused by what "official" stuff is apperantly so like

muddying the waters even more wouldnt exactly help

[remote wadi]

Oh, yeah. You should have seen the campaign i dipped out of session 1

DM was under 18, friend convinced me to still give it a shot. He improvd everything on the spot

[silk hare]

wym everything? encounters too?

[humble cairn]

Just .. made up rules as the game went on?

[silk hare]

or that yeah?

[remote wadi]

Really became a problem early when giant spider could shoot webs at the dex based cleric, but chose not to because he claimed to be too lazy to understand what 5/6 recharge meant

Didn't make up rules, but like a sandbox setting that had no plans. Only added things as time went on

Fuel to the fire was that everything would be streamed on Twitch

[silk hare]

I mean thats completely fine imo

[silk hare]

okay yeah thats a no from me

[silk hare]

tbh you dont need an elaborate world setting
you dont have to be playing in a planned out fantasy novel for the game to be good

[remote wadi]

It was something we all consented to, but the last thing I need is to think about that sort of incompetence streamed

[remote wadi]

And while this is true, it was a symptom to a larger problem

[silk hare]

and that larger problem is what now exactly?

I mean yeah the "wont learn mechanics cos lazy" is a problem, but the rest seems fine?

[remote wadi]

There weren't any goals, no practicing what/how to say things, not even understanding pretty easy things about monsters

[silk hare]

just maybe not your type of game

[inner silo]

Is the advice in the phb useful?

[silk hare]

in general? yeah

or do u want to know about sth specific ?

[inner silo]

Ah mb, i meant to say dmg

[remote wadi]

Going 100% improv. And while being under 18 isn't inherently bad, it's a hit or miss for quality

[silk hare]

tbh my first session started with me introducing like 4 possible plothooks (fully off off improv bc I didnt plan anything yet)

and then thinking about where I wanna take things post session

also fyi, the plothooks were nothing the players knew could be potential plothooks, just things for me to explain things retroactively

[inner silo]

I'm conteplating buying it as i already have phb and mm but feel more material to help with dming could be useful

[silk hare]

I mean the main problem with 100% improv in my eyes only arises if they are unfamiliar with DND in general

mainly bc u need to balance/ plan combat encounters to some extent

[silk hare]

I see I see, I mean theres plenty of nice books that add different things

so it also depends on what you want out of the book

the things that will "help you with dming" the most are probably modules

as they give u access to "prebalanced" encounters, stories and sometimes also spells/races or certain items

[remote wadi]

Either way, I just dipped. No luck finding games for Sunday, but did find 1/2 for Saturday

[silk hare]

also if you want I could dm you about some stuff I like @inner silo

[inner silo]

I currently run lmop which already has most of the stuff prebuilt, but my next campaign i want to make my own instead of using a premade, but i think i will likely struggle with it

[inner silo]

I would appreciate that!

[silk hare]

I mean its gonna be fine, dont worry too much

[plucky sentinel]

fun fact, there are more air dragons in the sea
then there are sea dragons in the air

[sweet osprey]

I feel my adhd hittinm pause

[remote wadi]

That's because air dragons can't breathe underwater (and orcas probably can't shove huge creatures)

[sweet osprey]

Wind drakes

Sea serpants
Leviathan, tiamat, cetus, hydra, echidna, scylla.

And im too tired to go further

Dragons is a term. But theres more technical names. Even from mythology

Okay i go sleep again

[remote wadi]

It is funny seeing an orcas make something go from Navy Seal to Air Force in 3 seconds

[sweet osprey]

Wait the murder whales do that??

[inner silo]

Kobolds are dragons too now

[sweet osprey]

Depends which type you make

Ancestry and such

But i love broader ideas and shoving stars and libraries into a drink mixer with a kobold that could have blue with white vitiligo

Oh, fig. I forgot to go back to bed after feeding the kittens. Gn part 2

[half breach]

Does anyone else kinda just want to play an adventure and then get this sad feeling when someone says that it's for beginners?

Me and one of my groups were trying to find out what campaign we'd want our Dungeon master to run. Now for some context I hadn't really played alot of Official Wizards of the coast campaigns aside from stuff like Tyranny of Dragons(currently in) and witchlight carnival (the other campaigns I've played were either homebrewed or systems like the pokemon tabletop or the monster hunter books). So being someone where I wanted to play more official adventures I recommend "lost mines of phandelver" because I thought it'd be fun ya know?

Then one of the other players said (and this is the exact words, copy and pasted):
"kindergarted campaign suggesting ahh"
So obviously this did make me feel a bit hurt so I kinda just wanna know, if anyone else has been in this situation? I just wanna be a player in more official adventures even if they are for beginners, I just don't want people judging me for it or saying stuff like that.

(Sorry of this was a sort of rant/small vent)

[past blaze]

The line about "The unmatched power of the sun!" is the funniest thing

[hot gate]

Don't let other people get you down. Official Campaigns or homebrew campaigns are on equal footing when it comes to fun. It just needs the right players and the right DM for both.

Trolls be trolls

I find prewritten campaigns (official or no) are better to help new DMs learn how to DM and can provide a support stucture, but it's false to say that they are somehow "lesser". An experienced DM is only empowered by a preritten campaign, since they can add their own spin on it.

[noble cave]

Is switching weapons a free action ?

[humble cairn]

You can draw or stow a weapon once per turn for free. You can also draw or stow a weapon once per attack when taking the Attack Action.

[hot gate]

Reference to what Ophid said here:
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#AttackAction

[noble cave]

Oh alright tysm

[half breach]

Yeah exactly. I'm happy someone understands, I have only been playing since like 2022 but I still am considered a beginner by alot so that's why i just wanna play more straight forward objective style campaigns (the group with that player, our dm has a Homebrew problem and the campaigns always last like forever with no Goal so it just gets boring fast)

[hot gate]

Having an overarching campaign goal is very important

The exception (sandbox and westmarches style games) need very proactive and decently experienced players. And they're not "better". They're just a different style of play.

[indigo sleet]

So my warlock's character sheet may be getting out of hand... she made a dropdown (this is a google Sheet) to indicate whether her familiar is summoned, shouldered, or dismissed

[hot gate]

haha, neat

[crystal hatch]

there is nothing more agonizing than clinging to a character concept you like and not having anywhere to use it 🥀 i will live however

[flint ledge]

There is, getting new cool campaign ideas but already being busy with long term campaigns

[crystal hatch]

I imagine...

PbP campaigns are harder to reliably find than I would think

Oh how I despise unpredictable work schedules

[severe rampart]

Or having really interesting and fun characters, and then the campaign being on hiatus

[crystal hatch]

I almost did join a campaign recently but got dropped before session 0 because DM ended up biting off more than they could chew LOL

glad it happened then as opposed to like right before session 1

[severe rampart]

Waited for like two months, right before session 0 the DM blocked and ghosted everyone

[crystal hatch]

bruh

[severe rampart]

Right? Lol

I had 5 campaigns, three on hiatus, one cancelled, and the other is the one I DM

[crystal hatch]

the curse that ails anyone who dares become DM......

Last time I was in a campaign was when I was like 12

Did a one shot a few years ago though

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah

[crystal hatch]

The group was a bit too big for my liking though so the entire thing kinda blended together

[split garden]

Hii

[severe rampart]

I'm actually planning to run a second game now instead with all of my free time

I just gotta get my head in the proper headspace

[lavish carbon]

I also got alot of free time, pls lemme know if you actually start one.

[vast saddle]

Is it normal for a person who gets so used to playing short/long campaign to have difficulties in adjusting to West Marches system?

[crystal hatch]

I'm not gonna lie I have no idea what that is

[severe rampart]

The games I run are a bit tougher than others, but if I get around to it I'd post an LFG

[lavish carbon]

Same lol

[vast saddle]

Maybe West Marches are well known more for DMs instead of players

[lavish carbon]

I play seriously so I actually like tough games

[paper portal]

teehee :3c

the nefarious optimizer

[severe rampart]

I don't like min-maxers, though, I host tough games but not that tough

[crystal hatch]

I don't really care much about the mechanics of DnD I just really like making characters and having them interact with other characters

[flint ledge]

West march is I believe is a be there or be square kind of game

[severe rampart]

Yup

[lavish carbon]

Btw can i become a dm with free resources? I really don't think so tbh

[crystal hatch]

depends what you want to run i think

[glass granite]

You can

[paper portal]

you can but i wouldnt recommend it

[vast saddle]

To be honest...I trust this mindset to the players I know well irl

[severe rampart]

I like making custom additions to creatures, like giving guards one level in fighter so they have masteries in their weapon, etc.

[jovial talon]

Youtube is right there.

[glass granite]

It’s easier with the PHB or DMG, but you can

[crystal hatch]

Wdym?

[lavish carbon]

Like I can put the time and efforts, I have a good imagination, but currently unemployed so I can't buy resources

[vast saddle]

Sometimes....picking stuff for fun could be....no fun if you have no member with optimal build in your party. Having at least one optimally-built player could help

[crystal hatch]

I don't mean I neglect the mechanics

[lavish carbon]

I know but did anyone had success here with this?

[severe rampart]

Not being a min-maxer ≠ playing the worst character of all time

[crystal hatch]

I just focus on the character itself first and then make their build afterwards

makes them more flexible if the group needs a specific class or something

[vast saddle]

I still remember I died the earliest in a meme party

[crystal hatch]

The character concept that's been haunting me recently could be run as either a ranger or a rogue depending on what is needed (i would prefer rogue but yknow)

[vast saddle]

Being a pacifist Wizard with unlucky Rogue, glasscannon Paladin and "let me solo them" Monk. I still remember that campaign until now

[severe rampart]

How can you be "unlucky" on purpose

[vast saddle]

Zero modifier Dex

[crystal hatch]

i just realized she would sound terrifying to a group if i described her at a basic level. rogue that doesn't trust anyone completely specced into stealth sounds like a red flag LOL

[severe rampart]

That's... still not unlucky

[humble cairn]

It does. Mostly because as a DM I would be worried that this player would be disruptive of the game.

[severe rampart]

You can very well still roll high

[crystal hatch]

It's why it's important if I join a game with her that everyone is aware that she'll start out somewhat abrasive; I would plan on her warming up to the party over time

I have backup character ideas just in case it doesn't work out

[flint ledge]

I recently had this idea of playing a peace domain cleric monk multiclass... Seems kinda fun tbh

[severe rampart]

I have one character idea that I'd really like to play

[paper portal]

yeah peace is crazy good as a dip for like anything really

[severe rampart]

John Farmer, 13 in every stat, just an average guy

[crystal hatch]

Former lone wolf who is smart enough to know she can't sabotage the group without putting herself in danger

[paper portal]

what class would you be

[severe rampart]

Fighter, of course

[flint ledge]

It's actually above average given commoners get a 10

[severe rampart]

13 average for adventurers

If the DM would allow me, I'd play it with 10 in every stat, but I'm afraid I'd be a burden to the party.

[crystal hatch]

My 2nd choice for a character is a severely mentally ill jester that speaks in riddles and metaphors who used to be in a royal court

[flint ledge]

It is 2024 so wouldn't be 1 level dip

[crystal hatch]

Painfully nice but off-putting

[severe rampart]

Ahem. Real mental illnesses are not for flavoring D&D characters, had to say it

[paper portal]

but i want my characters to be relatable to me :3

[crystal hatch]

It's an amplification of projection

[flint ledge]

Tbh the subclasses being at level 3 universally was like the one thing I wasn't hugely excited about in 2024

[tough lynx]

Then Druid 1 is the go to exept for wizards in which case it’s wizard

[indigo sleet]

There's a time and a place for IRL disabilities in TTRPG's. it can be done well, but ya gotta be careful with it

[crystal hatch]

It isn't something I would do as a quirky joke thing

[severe rampart]

It's a fun idea, but being intentionally a burden is not what I plan on doing for ol' John Farmer

[crystal hatch]

Speccing in every stat sounds like a nightmare

[humble cairn]

Tricky to do. "Warming up to the party over time" to me reads as "I plan on not participating very much in roleplaying very much in the beginning of the game" which has a tendency to really slow down the progression of the game, and that can kill the momentum. With tricky personalities like this I like to suggest the character having one trusted friend in the group that they know and trust before game starts.

[flint ledge]

Honestly you could just play a utility spellcaster and probably do really well but yeah if you wanna be fighter that'd be a no go

[severe rampart]

That's why I'm playing a martial 🥁

All I need is decent strength and con and I'm good to go

[crystal hatch]

She isn't uninteractive, and sees most people as alien to her so would end up needing to interact in order to understand a lot of things normally seen as commonplace

[flint ledge]

You should level into every class as well

[severe rampart]

Hah! Never

[crystal hatch]

She's just a metaphorical and literal fish out of water

[severe rampart]

Might multiclass into Valor Bard though

[zinc hare]

What class should I play for my upcoming campaign yall

My last character was a swashbuckler rogue

Very enjoyable

[severe rampart]

Bard

[crystal hatch]

Only class I've really played is a shadow magic sorcerer in a one shot

It was pretty fun

[zinc hare]

Sword bard?

[severe rampart]

Might I ask, what else do you know about D&D? Do you watch like campaigns of it?

[severe rampart]

Is this 2014 or 2024?

[glass granite]

Monk!

[zinc hare]

Which ones more fun

[glass granite]

2024 monk!

[severe rampart]

Back off! I'm recruiting them to the Bard side!

[crystal hatch]

I played one third of a campaign, one oneshot, and have watched people play it yeah

[zinc hare]

Played a minotaur drunken fist recently 👍

[severe rampart]

2024 Valor Bard!

[glass granite]

Eloquence bard!

[zinc hare]

Hows that play

[humble cairn]

Sure. Still seems tricky. I'm not saying you couldn't pull it off, but I would have my reservations.

[crystal hatch]

I understand the general mechanics and how sheet mechanics work

[glass granite]

Eh second fav class, I can compromise

[severe rampart]

It's the martial of bards, use a shortsword with a scimitar

[crystal hatch]

Can only study so much without having games to play in though