dnd-discussion

[lucid reef]

Oh interesting because I don't see it on my character sheet

[umbral girder]

Level 3 I believe they get a temporary flight

[severe rampart]

Are you a Variant Aasimar (2014)?

[feral fulcrum]

Only a certain kind of Aasimar can in 2014.

[lucid reef]

No my character is a 2024 fallen aasimar

[tribal night]

Baldur's gate without save files is so terrifying

[halcyon forum]

fallen cant fly

[tribal night]

wait lemme reword that

[severe rampart]

Perhaps they could fly, but then fell

[tribal night]

Baldur's gate 3 permadeath is so terrifying

because the game is like what, 100 hours or so?

[feral fulcrum]

That's not really how Aasimar work in 2024.

[stiff rock]

it's pretty manageable if you know what you're doing and are suuuper careful about what you do/say

[lucid reef]

See i take it actully could do it in her past life, but then her wings got clipped

[severe rampart]

then implement that into your character, they don't need to have a flight speed

[feral fulcrum]

2014 Aasimar is the one with the Subraces, 2024 can just pick any of the three options every single time they use their bonus action to activate their Aasimar feature.

Which I'm not a fan of because it's goofy.

[tribal night]

True, but I can't imagine losing 50 hours of progress just because I failed a deception check.

[lucid reef]

I don't think anybody wants to see a barbarian fly 😆

[stiff rock]

that's pretty much how my first run ended haha, but if you know most of the ways to cheese/flee encounters the permadeath becomes a joke

[severe rampart]

No one is choosing Inner Radiance

[crimson gulch]

failing a key deception check has percipitated a TPK in my games before

[severe rampart]

"Radiant Damage equal to your proficiency bonus" 😭

[stiff rock]

tbh yeah lol, not like you can reload a save in actual d&d

[feral fulcrum]

I still don't know why they went that route for Aasimar in 2024, it's dumb and bad flavor.

[severe rampart]

You can if you TPK, for some groups

[lucid reef]

Why not i've been playing my character quite well I was just asking a question

[tribal night]

I do love the single save file tho

Because it just means I can't rewind my consequences

[severe rampart]

I've been enlightened today with amazing D&D

[feral fulcrum]

Not you ya goof, WOTC.

[stiff rock]

i think part of the reason they merged them is i'm pretty sure that wotc wanted to go back on races having innate flight, and "you can fly as a bonus action" isn't enough of a racial feature so i assume they just merged the three to compensate

[lucid reef]

Well didn't think I would be called that today

[severe rampart]

Voicemod, the intimate descriptions of things, the simple guidance upon the party, plus I managed to "win" against the dragon

[lucid reef]

@severe rampart thank you for helping me you were the first to answer

[vast saddle]

Not good. Some games don't mention any timezone

[tribal night]

Yeah it just becomes an inconveinence, but I'm not good enough for permadeath

I'll just stick with single save file

[stiff rock]

if you want to cheat,|| closing the game via task manager if you know you're about to tpk will relaunch the game back to the last save, even in single-save/honour||

[severe rampart]

that's called Save Scumming, now a lot of games have features that punish that

[tribal night]

Save scumming 🥀

[stiff rock]

baldur's gate is happens to not really punish it whatsoever

[tribal night]

Sorry I won't do that, I want to beat honor mode legitamitely when I do get good enough.

[stiff rock]

yeah i'm not telling you to, just mentioned it exists

[crystal star]

Permadeath is just an annoying mechanic, very artificial form of difficulty imo. definitely not for me and no shame in not participating in kt

[lucid reef]

I believe in you

[severe rampart]

in DnD?

[tribal night]

For now I only prefer single save file

[crystal star]

In video games lol dnd is a different kettle of fish

[tribal night]

No in baldur's gate, because the game is like over 100 hours

[vast saddle]

Why combat is inevitable in every campaign?

Idk how to recover from bleeding if I have to fight

[severe rampart]

... because it's an important pillar of the game?

[short brook]

to be fair, permadeath is a very specific mode for the highest form of challenge.

[lucid reef]

Well, each round should last six seconds depend on how big of your group

[stiff rock]

?

[severe rampart]

Exploration, Combat, and Roleplaying

[vast saddle]

Idk, man. Right now, I'm too afraid to get involved in combat

[severe rampart]

... Why?

[tribal night]

In dnd I'm fine with permadeath, campaigns don't last that long

[vast saddle]

The source of my trauma beside my own character

[short brook]

Is it you the player, or the character

[vast saddle]

Me as player

[lucid reef]

That's a good question

[tribal night]

If it does last long then there shouldn't be a permadeath, nobody would want to waste hundreds of hours just to die to a failed perception check

[lavish flame]

D&D is basically a combat game with exploration and interaction added to it

[severe rampart]

Okay, D&D probably isn't the right system for you, there are many TTRPGs out there that don't involve a lot of combat and might be better suited

[vast saddle]

Just play that until I'm fully recovered?

[short brook]

gotcha, yeah combat is a good chunk of the game. There are tables that more RP focused, but combat makes up a huge chunk of class features

[stiff rock]

i can't think of a lot of things in dnd specifically that result in you outright TPKing unless you make a very obviously stupid decision or go into a fight completely unprepared

[severe rampart]

No, just, don't play D&D if it's making you that upset

[stiff rock]

unless your dm sucks, that is

[severe rampart]

I think, for your own health, you should stop playing D&D

[vast saddle]

Sadly, we cannot mention competitors here

[severe rampart]

We can? I don't think there's a rule against that, let me check

[limber trail]

I do think there can and should be situations that could if played poorly, lead to a TPK over the course of a full adventure. Those should also be heavily telegraphed and boiled down to either “run” or “talk this out” situations

[lavish flame]

Check out something like Kids on Bikes/Brooms or Vampire the Masquerade for a system with less combat than D&D.

[limber trail]

Don’t make your players fight when a TPK is likely

[lavish flame]

we absolutely can talk about them here

[severe rampart]

There's no rule against talking about competitors.

[lucid reef]

I agree for Kids On Bikes good call

[vast saddle]

Then...what is the best system for....bleeding recovery?

[lavish flame]

you can't like... commandeer conversation to talk about LANCER, but you can talk about other TTRPGs here

[severe rampart]

What do you mean by bleeding recovery?

[lucid reef]

@vast saddle what are you playing what is your character

[agile hemlock]

I have realized something

[tribal night]

I still don't wanna risk it without playing baldur's gate enough

[agile hemlock]

I hate being a player

[vast saddle]

D&D 5.5e, Fighter Orc

[severe rampart]

Forever DM?

[lucid reef]

We got a Orc Fighter

[agile hemlock]

I thought I was one, and I generally get grumpy about it, but now?

[short brook]

I can't be a dm it's too daunting

[vast saddle]

Wait....once I'm bleeding in D&D, I'm bleeding for good?

[agile hemlock]

No, I think that's a fine designation.

[severe rampart]

If you... don't like combat... why are you playing a fighter?

[severe rampart]

... No

Magical Healing will fix that up

[vast saddle]

I'm not talking about the game

[agile hemlock]

There isn't bleed in the game; there are a few examples of persistent damage in a lot of spells, but things like bleeding is found in older games or PF2e.

[crimson gulch]

Professional therapy, that's outside the scope of a game

[vast saddle]

Screw it

[proven mountain]

Now I'm picturing a fighter with thousands of bleeding cuts. It's kind of badass.

[agile hemlock]

Or do you mean emotional bleed?

[severe rampart]

Ohh emotional bleed

My bad

[vast saddle]

This. Why are these people too dumb to realize it?

[lavish flame]

I don't know, but a TTRPG that has less combat than D&D is something like Kids on Bikes/Kids on Brooms, which is an E.T./Stranger Things-style fantasy game. Monster of the Week (another game) had surprisingly little combat in my experience, it was mostly investigating.

[agile hemlock]

Bleed is used more often in WoD spaces, specifically V5

But don't insult their intelligence please

[severe rampart]

Calm down, it's not a very popular term iirc

[lucid reef]

We're not dumb we all come from different learning experiences

[vast saddle]

Sorry, I get upset from being misunderstood

[proven mountain]

It's okay, just gotta be understanding 🙂 But I get it

[short brook]

I don't even know what this is

[proven mountain]

Could someone explain emotional bleed? I've never heard of it either.

[crimson gulch]

Niche terms are going to be your enemy then, describe things in detail

[feral fulcrum]

TLDR You're getting wrapped up in your charecter and getting upsetti spaghetti at fictional things like it's personally happened to you.

[vast saddle]

I still want to play. I do, but stupid decision I made and everyone's reaction made me traumatized

[short brook]

based MotW

[agile hemlock]

But yeah, I hate being a player. It feels like you're always on a tight leash formed by the party wherein you don't get to express yourself due to the arguably democratic nature of the game, wherein all things basically have to be agreed upon, so even if you establish a kind of character idea or personality that is meant to bring tension or exacerbate problems, it just ends up frustrating the actual players.

[lavish flame]

Yknow how markers "bleed" through paper? In this context, "bleed" is when a Player's thoughts/feelings bleed into their Character's thoughts/feelings.

[short brook]

Ah!

[agile hemlock]

So why bother being anything that isn't completely compliant with a group?

[short brook]

I didn't know that was a term

[agile hemlock]

Thus, I like being a DM

I am antagonism

[proven mountain]

Thank you!

[lucid reef]

The more you know

[short brook]

I get that sometimes, i'm a bit of an amateur

[severe rampart]

Yeah, basically when a highly emotional thing happens in game to a character, it could sometimes affect the person playing said character

[agile hemlock]

I'm not saying I hate working as a group, I just hate the fact that the existence of a group colors what you ought to do

[severe rampart]

I think that's what Celeron means, at least

[vast saddle]

They spike up the price. $50 for an hour session. What a joke

[severe rampart]

What do you mean?

[lucid reef]

You should play in non paying groups

[vast saddle]

This

[lavish flame]

this is a pretty good price for a licensed therapist

[vast saddle]

He talked about professional therapy

[lucid reef]

Sorry there's so many conversations going on. I'm a little overwhelmed

[agile hemlock]

I have noticed time and time again that even if you have a Session 0, even if you establish this that or the other, there's always a tight leash around what you get to do or be; no one ever feels like they can or even should act a little selfishly, even if that would be interesting or lead into conflicts that give the DM some more ammo, some more stuff to work with.

[severe rampart]

Definitely talk to a professional, we're just people on the internet, we're not licensed or anything

[vast saddle]

It costs half of my current monthly earn

[short brook]

Theres like 3 different convos lol

[stiff rock]

i think it's a general expectation to play a character suited to whatever group your DM has put together. that way you're not being forced into making decisions, it's just what your character would do

[agile hemlock]

No one ever wants to FA to FO

[lucid reef]

Shout out to the person that has a license therapist that is a good price

[crimson gulch]

Oh that's a deal, therapy for my kids has been 140 an hour

[short brook]

I mean I don't think that's the case for every table, but that does seem be a thing that happens

[agile hemlock]

Well I like complicating things, I like creating peril, and so I feel more suited to the big boy seat

[lucid reef]

Thank you I feel seen

[severe rampart]

That's... a bit weird, acting selfishly, in character, is generally considered to be good roleplay

[vast saddle]

In my place, they would pay a lot more for surgery than pay for therapy

Because surgeons get tons of money

[agile hemlock]

Well the problem is that the dynamic feels like there's always one person sort of pulling the strings, and then everyone else kinda follows, but if you have one person who wants to be more agent and do their own thing just sometimes, that creates a lot of problems.

[vast saddle]

Therapy is so expensive

[lavish flame]

if its not in the budget, it isn't in the budget

[severe rampart]

Everyone should share the spotlight in the party

[agile hemlock]

I dunno, I'm just generally annoyed when it's all groupthink and group-act all the time

Like it's one hive mind

[severe rampart]

Probably just encountered similar groups

[agile hemlock]

So as a DM, I cannot be compelled to do that

[vast saddle]

Better keep the charisma-based player in check for that

[severe rampart]

Not this again.

[agile hemlock]

I just like making worlds and making trouble

[vast saddle]

I still cannot let my grudge toward charisma go, unfortunately

[short brook]

Look I think every group needs somebody like that

[crimson gulch]

What?

[severe rampart]

I will not have the same conversation, I'm sorry. That is an irrational belief and I don't think I can do or say anything to convince you otherwise

[short brook]

Someone that causes problems is really fun

[severe rampart]

Just because a player's stat is high in charisma, doesn't mean they act a specific way.

[agile hemlock]

People don't tend to agree when I play. I am the instigator because the groups I'm in, there's a lot of table talk and consideration towards literally everything

Like a general apprehension to do anything that hasn't been played like a game of chess

[short brook]

Have that at my current table and it's fun to have the resident trouble maker.

[vast saddle]

My past tables' spotlight highlighted charisma-based players dominantly due to being roleplay heavy

[stiff rock]

if you don't like to work as a team in a game about working as a team then yeah you may be better suited to other roles than being a player

[severe rampart]

This is, not only harmful to those who would like to play charisma-based casters, but also shows charisma casters in a bad light.

[agile hemlock]

Again, I don't hate working as a team, I just don't think everything has to be agreeable with the team all of the time 24/7; sometimes a good segue demands thrashing the dynamic at least a little

But if I can't even do that, I may as well run the operation

[short brook]

I don't think that's true, having some autonomy even to do trouble should always be a thing

Just autonomy in general at least

[stiff rock]

we've had disagreements about things at our table and it's never ruined the party dynamic. you could always find a table that's more receptive to your playstyle?

[vast saddle]

I would rather be the arson victim of Count Olaf rather than get dominated by a Charisma player. Ironically, both rely on charisma

[fast venture]

I swear I'm going to implode if another political campaign is posted

[lavish flame]

The type of player I like most is "Instigator" which is mostly used to describe the kind of player that messes with things they don't understand. I like players that flick unknown levers and push unknown buttons and speak unknown magic words.

[fast venture]

Why does no one enjoy the simple joys of raiding ancient dungeons anymore ;-;

[severe rampart]

Tomb of Annihilation

You gotta be patient

[agile hemlock]

Politics would create the conditions for ruins and ancient dungeons to exist technically

[short brook]

I have yet to play in a dungeon

[vast saddle]

Wait....you have this problem too? I was emotionally bleeding in a political campaign

[severe rampart]

I like the way you think

[short brook]

I found one dragon though

too scary at level 5

[fast venture]

I'm fine with political elements but I just wanna be a silly little fae girl going on wild adventures

[agile hemlock]

I like lightning bolt

[severe rampart]

Oh hey, I just beat a dragon at level 5

[agile hemlock]

Screw fireball; everyone is resistant to fire damage

My grandma is resistant to fire damage

[severe rampart]

Cloudkill then Fireball

[short brook]

It was an ancient white dragon, we'd be icicles by the time we finished rolling initiative

[agile hemlock]

Alternatively

I could be a Sorcerer and transmute the Fireball to be whatever I want it to be

[stiff rock]

finally, a use for poison damage

[agile hemlock]

You ever had a 40-foot-diameter snowball?

[severe rampart]

I fought an Adult Gem Dragon

[fast venture]

Also one....modules bleh, two....tomb is like ONLY dungeon crawls

[agile hemlock]

I call it the "little avalanche"

[short brook]

was dungeon of the mad mage any fun, my friend used to hype it up

[severe rampart]

Curse of Strahd: Amber Temple, Argonvasthold, Death House, etc.

[agile hemlock]

Sorcerer is goated, don't even @ me

I like Wizard too, but Sorcerer is up there

[fast venture]

I like warlock :3

[short brook]

I mean they're aight

[severe rampart]

I didn't die, but the gem dragon did show me the secrets and beauty of the universe (and gave me the "gift of the gem dragon" feat)

[short brook]

Ah that's really cool

[severe rampart]

also my character needs therapy

mind broke

[short brook]

✨️trauma✨️

[severe rampart]

woke up, bleeding brain, eyes and nose and mouth all bleeding, but still alive

[agile hemlock]

I am trying to run a steampunk-swashbuckler-Western-chanbara game, so

There will be a lot of guns

And fancy broadswords, backswords, rapiers, smallswords...

And katana

And the most important element:

trains

[lavish flame]

I started looking through Undermountain in Dungeon of the Mad Mage for some inspiration for my game, and it (alongside playing NetHack) made me realize something about modern dungeons relative to older dungeons. Older dungeons were just wackier than modern dungeons. Polymorph traps are so common in Undermountain that they get their own icon on the map key. Modern dungeons kinda... don't feature wacky shit like that, they take themselves very seriously. I think this might be something to consider for why people are less inclined to do dungeon crawls.

[short brook]

I want to play in a closer to modern fantasy game someday, I love blending the mundane and the fantastical

[severe rampart]

heehee, sounds like a classic "Whodunit" oneshot on a train

[stiff rock]

polymorph traps? i need to look into this dungeon

[agile hemlock]

Oh, that won't be it

So, in one of the many cosmogenic stories, the first train spans from Heaven to the mundane cosmos to Hell

And these hidden tracks are called ley lines

So you could, in theory, take a trip into the depths of demon land

And Hell looks like Las Vegas at night

Great if you don't have a gambling problem

[fast venture]

Same for uh.... totally cis reasons

[agile hemlock]

Oh dammit

I have a new idea but I can't run that because I'm already running the first thing

Space western

AAAAAAAUGH

[stiff rock]

i'm pretty sure the original tomb of horrors has a magic trap that magically swaps your gender lol

[agile hemlock]

I love space westerns

[lavish flame]

if "Wyvern" is the desired gender, Undermountain is your place!

[fast venture]

I mean hell that doesn't sound so bad

[fast venture]

NEED

Why can't magic be real

[lavish flame]

yup!

[fast venture]

I wish to turn myself into a amorphous slime girl

[severe rampart]

... tell me more

[lavish flame]

if you trigger it a second time, itll swap ur gender AND strip you naked

[severe rampart]

Eh pass, clothes are expensive nowadays

[stiff rock]

i promise you, there are easier ways of swapping genders than braving the tomb of horrors

[severe rampart]

and totally only for those reasons

[fast venture]

I would do it if I had to though

[lavish flame]

where's that Pathfinder potion when you need it

[stiff rock]

lest we forget the skull that just kills you

[agile hemlock]

I plan on making an abandoned saloon with a piano mimic

[fast venture]

But every campaign I would join all uses foundry vtt

It's annoying

[agile hemlock]

And the spirit spirit: a powerful, malevolent entity trapped in a whiskey bottle

[fast venture]

Curse of poverty strikes again

[knotty vine]

I have turned into a decapod

[stiff rock]

a lot of people are starting to use owlbear, so i assume the preference in lfg will change soon too

[lavish flame]

you could go room-by-room to list the reasons its a bad idea

[fast venture]

Cause being phone only is already limiting

[knotty vine]

fondery just cost money is all

[lavish flame]

i've been heavily considering including the Tomb of Horrors in my Wildemount sandbox

[stiff rock]

i feel like the skull that just kills you is probably one of the worst contenders for why the dungeon just suckssss lol

i remember it being written somewhere that gygax made it just to spite his players because they pissed him off

[fast venture]

In a setting I was working on, there was a seemingly endless labyrinth deep in the world filled with incredible artifacts and fantastical technology but also unfathomable horrors

[buoyant oar]

There is one guy who was making Foundry Mobile compatible. Its already supports full Characters sheets

[fast venture]

Nobody knows where it came from

[lavish flame]

my personal favorite is: room that floods with wine so that water breathing spells don't work

[feral fulcrum]

Not much more then the average D&D book, and as a one time purchase, Foundry is definitely worth the money.

[fast venture]

It more or less serves as a late game high risk high reward loot crawl

[knotty vine]

Indeed is why I plan on buying it soon

[stiff rock]

or the doorway(s) that is practically invisible and if you fail one perception check you're barred from half the tomb

[stiff rock]

reminds me of dungeon meshi

[lavish flame]

no, he made it cuz he was getting mail from DMs that were saying "my players have killed Thor and taken Mjolnir and they killed Mordenkainen and took his stuff. they cannot be dealt with, nothing can stop nor kill them!" and so he made a dungeon that could stop and kill those characters

[buoyant oar]

Yea it is called Swipe.

Swipe - Mobile VTT | Foundry Virtual Tabletop https://share.google/Qcl4dvV7ehotiYEKU

[stiff rock]

that's arguably better than what i thought lol

[fast venture]

There's also a dragon that has existed as long as written history that sleeps deep within the largest mountain and when it wakes is a living apocalypse until it goes back to sleep

[severe rampart]

Played with Foundry for the first time, holy crap, the quality jump from Owlbear to Foundry? insane

[fast venture]

It's called the Lord of the Mountain.....the players have a chance to beat it but it's like raid boss makes terraaque look like a joke tier

So they really shouldn't mess with it

[severe rampart]

Foundry is definitely flashier, Owlbear works fine but it has a storage issue

[rough basalt]

Yeah Foundry is a great VTT if you're like me and enjoy a lot of tools and fun buttons.

[lavish flame]

I was writing a setting and was particularly intrigued by the idea of a plane that was just an infinitely big dungeon, so one of the planes "Oubliette" was just an infinite dungeon

[severe rampart]

I enjoy flicking as much buttons as I can, yes

[junior jasper]

Hello everyone!

[severe rampart]

leave me in a room full of buttons and I'll be happy

[fast venture]

Hell yeah

[rough basalt]

It keeps me engaged while I do prep work.

[fast venture]

Stanley

[agile hemlock]

I have an idea

[buoyant oar]

I use a Stream deck for my foundry soooooooo nice.

[agile hemlock]

Dynamite puzzles

[buoyant oar]

Physical buttons ❤️

[severe rampart]

Unfortunately, I still don't have FoundryVTT, since USD is 60x my currency, so that's 3000 for Foundry and I'm still thinking it through

[rough basalt]

I think they have sales twice a year.

[severe rampart]

When

[rough basalt]

Around June/July then Christmas iirc

[severe rampart]

Hehehehehehe

[fast venture]

So not that far away

[severe rampart]

What's the sale usually?

[buoyant oar]

Yep there is a summer sale, and a Black Friday sale usually 20-30%

[limber trail]

I’ve honestly just had enough pretty meh experiences with foundry that, while I’m not burned on it, I’m not racing to spend the license. (Which don’t necessarily entirely stem from foundry but I haven’t found it to be great)

[rough basalt]

It's definitely not for everyone.

[junior jasper]

Woah! @buoyant oar I love your display name!

[severe rampart]

I've heard it's got a pretty steep learning curve, and it's not for everyone because it makes DnD feel a bit too "video game-y"

[rough basalt]

It's learning curve is steep compared to other ones yeah

[severe rampart]

but I heard once it's all set up, it's so fun to play

[buoyant oar]

Not as steep as Fantasy Grounds though. Shudder

[rough basalt]

Yeah Fantasy Grounds is a nightmare

[severe rampart]

Plus I like the initiative in Foundry, you can see the sheer amount of enemies which is fun

[limber trail]

That’s one of my big criticisms is it felt very video gamey. Also stemmed from a DM who got way into automation.

[junior jasper]

Right, there’s something I’m not getting here. What’s “Foundry”?

[rough basalt]

A VTT

[severe rampart]

it's a VTT

[severe rampart]

Yeahh, but most just use Beyond20 Extension with Foundry, no?

[rough basalt]

That focuses on providing massive amounts of tools and modding while being approachable from a player/dm perspective

[lavish flame]

FoundeyVTT is an app(?) and website that allows you to play D&D online. VTT means "Virtual Tabletop"

[buoyant oar]

I use the Ripper's module set, so It brings in a BG3 inspired Hot bar, which helps new players a lot.

As well as a combat carousel at the top of the screen.

[limber trail]

Can’t say that’s been my experience

[rough basalt]

Foundry's automation is one of its biggest draws for me.

[severe rampart]

that's what I used

[rough basalt]

It means more time spent playing then "uh what's my this. What's my that?"

[lavish flame]

I exclusively use Roll20 (cuz I know it)

[buoyant oar]

10K hours in Roll20. Bought Foundry and never looked back.

[rough basalt]

I've grown on roll20. I'd still never use it as a DM tho.

[severe rampart]

Roll20 is alright, I don't like it as much as I like Owlbear

Owlbear would be better than Foundry in my book IF it wasn't for the storage limit

[rough basalt]

I was looking into Roll20 and Owlbear but then I played an Icewind Dale game in foundry and was blessed with its glorious light.

[severe rampart]

Foundry paired with an amazing DM is just chefs kiss

[lavish flame]

The 2024 player sheet on Roll20 has me wanting to switch

[junior jasper]

I know what it means. Personally, I like Roll20. It’s good for small groups, and it is better than other things that I’ve tried.

[lavish flame]

They just freestyled for the 2024 sheet, and its really not as good as the actual 2024 sheet in the PHB

[buoyant oar]

When you get a leveled map in foundry just right

[rough basalt]

The nice thing about VTTs is that there's a VTT for anyone.

Owlbear/DDB Maps/Roll20 if you just wanna slap something down, use ddb seamlessly, or free options

[lavish flame]

Owlbear is prob the best for a low-prep game

[buoyant oar]

Foundry does require more prep that is for certain. You can't really be a lazy DM with Foundry.

[severe rampart]

That's what I dislike about Owlbear, not too much prep work for me 😔

[rough basalt]

Foundry if you're someone like me who likes to always have something to do, and wants to cut out as much of the troublesome aspects of dnd.

[south prawn]

Maybe I’m biased because I started with it, but I’m a huge fan of Owlbear

[rough basalt]

Like I physically can't handle theater of the mind for extended periods of time.

So foundry letting me keep theater of the mind strictly in social situations really gives my mind the room it needs.

[severe rampart]

plus animated scenes

so immersed

[buoyant oar]

I recently set up some dynamic audio modules so when my PCs move their token it will play a little sound for each step and muffled if they are stealthing

[rough basalt]

I have a few patreons, one of them is the PSFX one.

To go with JB2As animations.

Has made using spells and abilities in games so much more fun.

[severe rampart]

is that the uh the weapon appears and animates you hitting your target?

[rough basalt]

Yep

[severe rampart]

Amazing

[fossil shuttle]

Actively watching the party's paladin not know what Lay on Hands is

[rough basalt]

As well as Dragon breath, spells

[severe rampart]

Tell him then

[severe rampart]

Yeah!

[rough basalt]

And active animations for spells that have persistent effects

[severe rampart]

It's quite immersive and quite fun

[fossil shuttle]

I just did, she used it cure a man's disease

[buoyant oar]

I also got PCs to actively take notes in foundry using the Journal System by installing Simple Quest.

[rough basalt]

Like the Dust Devil spell has an actual dust devil that moves around with the aoe.

[severe rampart]

One more thing I dislike about Owlbear is the attachments

[severe rampart]

WHAT do you mean I can only apply one condition to a creature

It makes keeping track of combat so much harder than it has to be

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah you can put all the conditions on someone in foundry and it gets hilarious

[severe rampart]

honestly that's my biggest criticism of owlbear

[rough basalt]

The funniest stuff to me is now that I'm getting to higher dice amounts just seeing all the dice fly on the screen

[tribal night]

Barbarians and fighters becoming a mindflayer: "NO! MY GAINS!"

[severe rampart]

When you roll initiative and there's like 30 enemies

[buoyant oar]

I am about to run a spelljammer game, and I found a module from the Augr that can create procedurally generated star systems that are animated you can then zoom into the planet, and then Place locations on them which can take players to a battle map.

And none of the art, or code is AI ❤️

[rough basalt]

I like that Foundry finally made their stance clear on AI

[severe rampart]

This too! I like that Foundry is anti ai

[rough basalt]

"Only if it's for coding, and if it uses AI to run client side code, it needs to be with user consent."

Or persistent code like generating star systems

[severe rampart]

problem is Foundry is definitely more load bearing, if that's the correct term

[buoyant oar]

Like Skyrim, foundry can run on a potato.

All of the mods require more beef.

[severe rampart]

The urge to buy Foundry grows larger

[buoyant oar]

But Foundry also has User side settings to disable effects, and animations, as well as a frame rate cap.

[rough basalt]

It's a lot like Skyrim and Project Zomboid yeah

[tribal night]

I wonder... why does learning spells cost gold?

[severe rampart]

Stop, I can't handle any more, I'm reaching for my wallet now 😭

[rough basalt]

You can run them on potatoes but if you want all the mods and the real potential you need a good PC

[tribal night]

Which god are we paying to learn spells as a wizard?

[buoyant oar]

I use Potato or Not. First time a user logs in it gives them with a prompt to choose their PC quality. Between Poop Potato, Potato, and Shiny Potato. It will auto adjust settings for the user. I had a player who was able to play with my 150 mods on a chromebook

[rough basalt]

Is that a paid module or free?

[halcyon forum]

you are paying for ink and other magical materials etc

[buoyant oar]

I believe it is free. But I don't know if its on V13 or 14 yet.

[tribal night]

Ah that makes sense, then again it gets learned instantly after paying a few coins

[buoyant oar]

I am still rocking V11

[rough basalt]

Cause that sounds like a very helpful module

[halcyon forum]

it takes a few hours to scribe a spell

[rough basalt]

I'm on v13

[buoyant oar]

I know the settings still exist, Its in the Configure Settings Menu Players have access to it.

[severe rampart]

taking note of that, if I buy it in the future

[fathom gate]

Counterspell

[rough basalt]

I wonder if it works if put in a game later

Like if it automatically adjusts once a user logs in after its uploaded.

[tribal night]

Oh ok

[buoyant oar]

It should pop up the first time the user enters the world after its installation. You can also toggle it to appear at every opening. Like if a player is on a laptop on week but mains on a desktop

[tribal night]

So called free thinkers when scorching ray + elemental adept fire

[rough basalt]

Nice I should see if it works for me.

Gonna start running some of these one shots from the adventures in faerun book soon I think.

[fathom gate]

What about fireball

[tribal night]

Fireball is great but I love the feeling of firing a barrage of fire beams at the enemy

and watch it all miss

[short brook]

But what if crit

[patent ember]

Hello how is everyone?

[tribal night]

Biggest dopamine hit

[rough basalt]

Scorching Ray on new Sorc is pretty fun.

Super Saiyan mode for advantage on all the beams.

[knotty vine]

i still think its weird that magical darkness doesnt block dark vision unless stated otherwise

[timid zinc]

Hey

Dex is the best stat

Imo

[reef tundra]

Agreed!

[timid zinc]

Who wouldnt wanna be able to out run a dragon

[reef tundra]

Dexterity doesn't actually influence your movement speed

[fleet ingot]

Hear me out
Have a gnome as a bard
Put player in bag
Now you have a portable mp3 player

[patent ember]

the bard

[reef tundra]

But it is certainly useful for evading their breath attacks

[reef tundra]

Unless it's a dragon with poison or cold breath

[timid zinc]

Yeah

[fleet ingot]

As a rouge main i agree

[timid zinc]

Ur a rouge main?

Im a monk and rouge main

[severe rampart]

They meant Rogue probably

[knotty vine]

Fiends vs level 15 warriors

[reef tundra]

Rogue, people

[fleet ingot]

Arcane trickster to be exact

[stiff rock]

was about to say the same thing

[patent ember]

from my little time with dnd, i always pick magic casters and im unsure why.

[timid zinc]

Oh

[reef tundra]

Arcane Trickster is very cool

[limber trail]

Unless it’s moulin

[severe rampart]

that explains the earlier comment about bards

[reef tundra]

Different people prefer different playstyles

[stiff rock]

swashbuckler remains my favourite rogue subclass flavour-wise

[timid zinc]

Hey do u know a class good for summoning but could run daggers with? (Im new)

[lavish flame]

goated

[patent ember]

bards seduce dragons sometimes.

[limber trail]

I honestly am frequently surprised to hear that people have a main class. I like constantly switching things up

[reef tundra]

Because pirates are just the coolest

[fleet ingot]

Well my original character was a theifling succubus bard but she is asexual unfortunate my whole party was already bards basically😭😭

[reef tundra]

It's the stereotype at least. I myself haven't seen it happen once in game

[severe rampart]

Sometimes?, no, not really, it's very rare that could happen in actual campaigns.

[stiff rock]

conjuration wizard comes to mind, alternatively a druid with some conjuration spells or a subclass that allows summoning instead of WS

[severe rampart]

It almost always never happens.

[patent ember]

i tried a monk one and a tank, its nice having a descent amount of hp but also magic is cool.

[fleet ingot]

Unless you have that ONE player

[stiff rock]

daggers are simple weapons and can be used by anybody, however a spellcaster is always going to want a hand free for spellcasting

[severe rampart]

It's a stereotype that influencers/dnd content creators who have never played D&D before in their life joke about because it's the only thing that can feed the algorithm, the same regurgitated joke over and over

[timid zinc]

Oh im broke can i get that in a free book?

Oe does someone have it

[fleet ingot]

Pdfs my friend pdfs

[limber trail]

Nothing comes to mind that both does summoning AND uses knives. It’s pretty rare. And honestly, summoning in DnD isn’t always the best. It’s strong but it’s not amazing table practice, it can lead to some really long initiatives when allowed to run rampant

[patent ember]

i believe dnd beyond has a base ruleset for free with limited materials.

[timid zinc]

Huh?

[severe rampart]

If I ever get a player like that, I'll talk to them, probably say that it wouldn't be allowed at my table

[reef tundra]

Sounds like to me that you'd need the Shadowblade spell, summons a magic psychic sword that you can throw and summon back into your hand

I own the books in person. I'm old fashioned

[severe rampart]

Because 1. Persuasion is not mind control, 2. You can't see every NPC or enemy as a potential love interest, that's a bad mindset

[reef tundra]

And for some reason I find it easier to find something in a book rather than online

[timid zinc]

Well i remember making a rouge with some charisma i seduced a water spirit we were fighting that I ended up using to out a fire

[patent ember]

are you rich by chance?

[warm basin]

Dagger vs Darts

For a dex fighter

Grung

[severe rampart]

In game problems don't need in game solutions.

[stiff rock]

without stating the obvious, the only way to get free d&d content is dndbeyond's free basic rules, which has limited subclasses. while you could make a summoning character with it, it's not gonna be amazing

[severe rampart]

Talk to that player above board

[reef tundra]

Nope, just a broke college student with a part time job and an addiction to dnd books

[limber trail]

How did the idea that rogue is spelt rouge even start? Neither are particularly obvious spellings

[stiff rock]

same here! i love physical media

[reef tundra]

I always thought it was just mispellings

[limber trail]

See it’s so common though

[severe rampart]

If you make D&D not fun for them, you're also potentially making it not fun for the other players.

[reef tundra]

Wait, do some people actually think it's rouge?!

[limber trail]

Oh yeah no it’s a real issue

[patent ember]

i do too but im broke, my only income is from ssi income but that goes towards parents/bills mostly.

[timid zinc]

Yeah um me

[severe rampart]

I take 1d4 psychic damage when someone spells it like that

[reef tundra]

-# Oh... i see

[fleet ingot]

For me, I guess it's just a thing of I know my players and no one is gonna do anything to make anyone feel uncomfortable so if per se they wanted to romance the dragon they can. I'm not gonna stop them because I know they're not gonna do anything to make any of the actual players at the table feel uncomfortable because most things are talked about
Hell, my current DM gave us a campaign consent sheet to figure out what everyone was OK with for the campaign

But I get what you mean though

[reef tundra]

I grew up around dyslexic people I'm used to people mispelling stuff I didn't think people thought it was actually spelt that way 😭

[stiff rock]

i don't really think rogue is a widely used word outside of TTRPG space so it's easy to confuse it with rouge

[reef tundra]

What would rouge even mean?! The sonic character?

[stiff rock]

it's a colour and yeah the sonic character lol

[patent ember]

im dyslexic.. and autistic.

[timid zinc]

Tbh I like seducing crwaturws then killing them its an addiction my dms hate me

[reef tundra]

I'm on the spectrum but not dyslexic

[severe rampart]

Sounds really bad and unhealthy.

[limber trail]

I can think of two major blockbusters in the last 10ish years which have it in the title, at minimum. It’s not a super uncommon word

[stiff rock]

that sounds slightly problematic

[severe rampart]

not slightly, that is very problematic

[timid zinc]

Im sorry

[reef tundra]

That's what I thought. I've seen the word rogue a lot

[jolly canyon]

You'd get kicked from my table for that for sure

[limber trail]

That doesn’t sound like great table etiquette if you’re intentionally trying to make your DMs upset

[timid zinc]

Im not reying to

I said that as a joke

[reef tundra]

Hey hey everyone let's not be too harsh. Sure it is uncool to do but let's not go too wild

[stiff rock]

ah fair enough, i've not really seen it used outside of ttrpg space and other similar works

[patent ember]

I tried being a dm once in middle school, online, it went really really bad. im scared to learn or try again for being a dm.

[timid zinc]

I actually love my dms

[severe rampart]

also what do you mean "seducing" creatures? If you're fighting with them at first, then you tried to seduce them that wouldn't work because persuasion isn't mind control.

[limber trail]

Hey, everyone started out as a bad DM. What matters is practice, trying again, and the goal of generally improving

[timid zinc]

No i didnt try fighting

[severe rampart]

So you, for no reason at all, seduced and killed innocent creatures?

[reef tundra]

I wasn't an amazing DM when I started. I made loads of mistakes, and it really burnt me out

[timid zinc]

Um yes im sorry

[patent ember]

how exactly does one improve or practice?

[severe rampart]

Just by playing

[reef tundra]

But it just takes time and practice

[patent ember]

murder hobo?...

[stiff rock]

pretty much just practice, but there are some videos you could find to help

[timid zinc]

Play

[limber trail]

Run more games. Keep running games, trying new things. Experiment. Have fun!

[timid zinc]

It was only qith my first games

[severe rampart]

I'm sorry. I will no longer entertain this conversation as I'd like to move on from that topic. It is something that you should take to professionals and we're just random people on the internet

[timid zinc]

I was pretty edgy and killed before i tried anything

[patent ember]

anyways hows your day?

[reef tundra]

It's like cooking. You can follow recipes and stuff, but you get a better feel on balancing ingredients and what ingredients work well the more you cook and have experience with cooking

[timid zinc]

Ok i sm trying to get better anyway i like ur pfp

[severe rampart]

Been fine, most likely going to sleep soon as it is 1:30 AM for me

[timid zinc]

I like being a dm

World building is my favourite thing to do

[limber trail]

You just reminded me I really should get to sleep soon… it’s even worse, it’s 3:30 am

[reef tundra]

-# Why do I always come back to food metaphors to explain stuff?!

[severe rampart]

Gotta get ready as when I wake up, it's an hour before game time

[severe rampart]

Hah! you and I both!

[limber trail]

Food metaphors are the best metaphors

[timid zinc]

I spend like 8 hours coming up with storylines

[stiff rock]

how many people here use art of their characters for their profile pictures?

[reef tundra]

Agreed. They're like food. Universal and amazing

[timid zinc]

Tho my players always end yp going off track

[reef tundra]

Me. My pfp is my latest character Abbey

[severe rampart]

It's like recipes, you know? I don't actually know how to cook, but it's like recipes

[timid zinc]

Yeah like qho doesnt like food

[reef tundra]

Art not mine

[severe rampart]

I do

[patent ember]

i do not as it woudent Match my username nor do i have art to share.

[stiff rock]

i like it! what race/class is she?

[limber trail]

Maybe I should try a game as my pfp character….

[viral kraken]

me!

[severe rampart]

I love commissioning artists

[stiff rock]

the tin man is far too iconic, i fear i wouldn't recognise you

[reef tundra]

For species, Kalashtar. For class, my homebrew class named the Battleblood

[severe rampart]

... Hot dog man?

[reef tundra]

I am now terrified

[patent ember]

are you rich too? where do you hire from anyways?

[viral kraken]

i'm just playing, but now i must make one

[woven flint]

It's an older character, but me :p

[severe rampart]

Oh my, I should really get glasses, from afar I thought that Chestnut's pfp was charmander

[reef tundra]

Omg your pfp was a character of yours?!

[severe rampart]

Social Media Platforms

[timid zinc]

I normally draw them myself but tbh most times we have an artist better than me in our party so i normally make them draw them with my art as a reference

[stiff rock]

i do too but i often end up just drawing it myself lol. i like to practice my own skills from time to time

nothing i'd ever deem pfp-worthy though

[severe rampart]

I am not an artist, so I pay people to make art

[reef tundra]

I am not an artist, but my friends often draw for me or I use other characters as reference for what my characters look like

[stiff rock]

despite being my party's artist, i am my worst critic

[limber trail]

I would love to one day have quality art of a character of mine to use as a pfp but alas budgetary constraints

[severe rampart]

Warmed my heart when 2 of my players drew their characters

[timid zinc]

Better than ai

[severe rampart]

I also commissioned art of my players, also commissioned a piece when the first two of them died

[timid zinc]

Ai doesnt belong in art

Or music

[patent ember]

for real how much money do you have...

[woven flint]

I'm playing a Firbolg College of the Moon bard soon and I wish I had art of him lol
Very handsome fey giant man that Is incredibly shy talking to people but loves talking to animals

[stiff rock]

oh my goodness yeah there's no higher compliment than drawing someone's d&d character lol

[timid zinc]

Or story telling

[grim kraken]

Does it violate your alignment to polymorph yourself into an evil creature?

[severe rampart]

Not a lot, I come from a third world country so usually a piece is only $5 or so.

[woven flint]

He also plays a fiddle that is like.. a size too small for him but he's still incredibly good with it lol

[reef tundra]

Okay now I'm concerned with how much money you have if me being able to afford a $30 book is being rich 😭 /lhj

[limber trail]

You retain your alignment with polymorph so no

[timid zinc]

I drew my freinds d&d character and she drew mine we made matching pfps from them tho i lost them

[patent ember]

as i said ssi income, living with parents, most of it goes towards basic living.

[grim kraken]

Yes but I mean does changing into an evil creature count as an evil act?

[reef tundra]

Ohhh I see. My b I didn't see the earlier message

[valid geyser]

probably not

[timid zinc]

Depends on the cause

[patent ember]

dont worry its ok.

[reef tundra]

Wait does alignment have rules surrounding it?!

[grim kraken]

The celestial is friendly to you and your companions for the duration. Roll initiative for the celestial, which has its own turns. It obeys any verbal commands that you issue to it (no action required by you), as long as they don't violate its alignment. If you don't issue any commands to the celestial, it defends itself from hostile creatures but otherwise takes no actions.

[woven flint]

No, as you retain your alignment and ability to make decisions.

[limber trail]

Almost certainly not

[severe rampart]

Yup, mechanically, such as spells like Conjure Minor Elementals

[grim kraken]

This is the spell ^. I wish for the Eko to turn into a Reaper of Bhaal

[limber trail]

I can’t imagine a situation where that would be the case

[reef tundra]

The only gameplay things I know regarding alignment is some magic items only being able to be attuned by creatures of certain alignments

[timid zinc]

Or reason it like saying are u a murderer for using a knife a murderer used it depends on the reason if ur gonna murder with it yeah but if u use it for godd no

[reef tundra]

REALLY?!

[valid geyser]

not particularly. at most a handful of spells have their damage changed

[grim kraken]

Which would allow me to give an enemy creature vulnerability to piercing

[limber trail]

Anyways I’m falling asleep so that’s me out gang

[reef tundra]

Oh I see. Not that much

[grim kraken]

It obeys any verbal commands that you issue to it (no action required by you), as long as they don't violate its alignment.

[woven flint]

See you next time, Knemesis

[grim kraken]

But idk if polymorph in that way is considered a violation of alignment

It's for a D&D competition so idk

[woven flint]

It's most definitely not as you retain your alignment.

[valid geyser]

normal polymorph wouldnt let you turn into humanoids

[severe rampart]

Yeah it either deals Radiant (Good and Neutral) or Necrotic (Evil)

[stiff rock]

what low-cr creatures would pair well with orcs?

[woven flint]

Ogres, Goblins, Trolls etc

[grim kraken]

Yeah this creature called Eko has a special polymorph which allows for humanoids

[timid zinc]

I hate pepole who do dumb annoying shit that doesnt help the party or make sense and aay "its what my character would do"

AHHH

[reef tundra]

Ohh I see

[patent ember]

pretty much my schools dnd afterschool club was.

[timid zinc]

How did u deal with them

[woven flint]

I've revived a few enemies with my Cleric
They're typically thankful enough not to stab us in the back because we already killed them once lol
He only does it for certain situations though

[reef tundra]

I've only had a player say it once and so far they are the only player I've kicked from a table

I was genuinely horrified when they said it and almost jumped out of my seat

[patent ember]

covid happened which cancelled alot of groups including dnd, but i hated it.

[reef tundra]

"You said the cursed words!!!"

[timid zinc]

I mean that could backfire but atleast there is a chance they help you in gratitude and plus you could just kill them again but some pepole blow up an orphanage and use that as an excuse

[severe rampart]

Working with my player who is not only a Warlock but also has The Haunted One background, this will be fun

[timid zinc]

Is it me but I use dnd more than d&d when typing?

[woven flint]

Let's see
I've revived, enemy-wise
A Kuo-Toa (it views us as God's now lol)
A Bandit disguised as a vampire because we were only really intent in killing it because it looked like a vampire

And a Doppelganger at the request of one of my party members who I'm theorizing is a Changeling themselves

[ancient dew]

May you have many schemes 🙏🏻

[timid zinc]

Nice that makes sense

[patent ember]

i once played a "crazy" haunted one, war solider who was haunted by his past.

pretty fun.

[woven flint]

Most of my Clerics enemy revives were out of pity lol

[timid zinc]

I've only played like 7 games and i mainly use dragon born and theifling

[timid zinc]

Haha

[woven flint]

Quite a few of our former enemies live in our tavern/manor with us because of my Clerics kindness, wanting to give them second chances

They're also employees lol

[timid zinc]

Capitalizing off of revives

And kindness

[woven flint]

Not everyone gets a second chance, but we've made a lot of friends and people who are in our debt, no thet we care about debt
I just don't feel good about needless murder

And he's only revived 3 enemies, most of our employees were spared by us when yhey were former foes lol

We treat them with kindness, they all get a pay as well

[timid zinc]

Yeah

My old self would just kill everything

[stiff rock]

our cleric is incredibly stingy with how he uses his revivify diamonds lol

[timid zinc]

I was one of those pepole who kill everythinh

I even blew up and orphanage (on accident)

[severe rampart]

Alright, custom god time, I can do a really funny thing here

[timid zinc]

All because of my bloodlust

[woven flint]

I was lucky because one of our party members had connections and were able to get three diamonds and a scroll for cheap with some renoun

Of which I've used 2 Diamonds and the Scroll
(To revive said foes)

[timid zinc]

Custom god huh i like making them

[timid zinc]

Cool

[stiff rock]

i think the most bloodlusted character i've ever played was pretty much the 2018 version of kratos lol. bloodiest he got was in his backstory

i like playing generally good people

[timid zinc]

I like playing flawed but prettybgood characters

[stiff rock]

my party was so short on diamonds that they literally went mining for them lol

[timid zinc]

Pepole that would kill if needed or if the other ways are almost impossible or hard to do

[timid zinc]

Ah

Reminds me of the time i forced some goblins to mine for me

Why because they killed a hungry child then robbed him

[stiff rock]

your games seem exceptionally dark

[timid zinc]

My dms are seriously edgy

Some stuff that hsppend cant even be mentioned here

[remote wadi]

So, we got TPK'd in record time

[left condor]

Is there any logical way to map the ocean floor? One of my players wants to try it, and I’m not sure how it would work in a medieval fantasy setting.

I know he could measure depth using a rope or chain, but beyond that I’m a bit lost. It feels like you’d need something like a submarine. Are there any spells that could help? Maybe water breathing, darkvision, and some way to write underwater?

[severe rampart]

Not a good thing to say

[severe rampart]

probably not possible within the realm of DnD

[left condor]

its a very specific thing I know XD

[stiff rock]

a boat and a really, really long ruler

[timid zinc]

I hate when pepole lie about their rolls

[left condor]

but thats for the height not the "cartography"

[timid zinc]

Rocks d zebec

[reef tundra]

Spill!

[timid zinc]

I think thats his name

[valid geyser]

like, there probably are spell ways with like, polymorph but its probably kinda innefficient. it is just a long and time consuming process

[woven flint]

My party just has renoun with various factions in Waterdeep lol

[timid zinc]

What how long fid it take

Um

Have u guys ever played with a dm that lives killing u guys off

[stiff rock]

dm vs players is never a very good psychology to have but thankfully i've not ran into it before

[remote wadi]

Cleric got crit on OA
I got killed from max damage, became stable, but not able to attack

Everyone else got largely killed off from an Arms of Hadar failed save

Although it was semi scripted(?)

[fast venture]

I had a interesting character idea earlier

Cleric/artificer multiclass that worships some supposed machine God that created the universe, kind of a 'the world is a simulation' thing but in less of a nihalisitic way. A bit mad but well meaning.

[reef tundra]

A scripted player defeat? Not always a good sign

[fast venture]

Probably knowledge domain for the cleric side

[reef tundra]

Never

[quaint hound]

hello so like i got a question for fun
if yall's dnd character were pokemon typings what would they be

[timid zinc]

I had one that only likd killing me off i told him i was new so he always made my death even ones that made no sense seem like a skill issue or a bad roll

[stiff rock]

tiefling warlock, so psychic/dark/fire?

[remote wadi]

I wouldn't quite call it scripted, per se. But it's one of those events that were going to happen eventually, but might as well happen in a near death scenario

[woven flint]

We've got renoun with
The Zhentarim, Bregan D'aerthe., the Black Staff Wizards, Lady Silverhand, The Tigerclaw Detective Company, The Emerald Enclave...
Pretty much everyone except for the Xanathars Guild..
We've been putting in work lol

[flint ledge]

There are hardcore sort of games that do pride themselves in killing a lot of PCs although from my understanding that's more of a difficulty thing than actively playing against players

[reef tundra]

Well, that’s upsetting. Well, I hope whatever campaign you’re playing now is much better

[reef tundra]

Still a little confused but yay?

[valid geyser]

final game for a campaign tonight. feel kinda bad basically everyone iwho had one including me asked "can i bring X NPC with comparable player levels?" so now whatever final bosses are gonna be balanced around like, 6 level 9s/10s, and a handful that are 2 levels lower. Also last session because one guy had like a 15 minute turn controlling 2 characters we did have to install a 5 minute turn timer

[timid zinc]

Yeah

[remote wadi]

Not a huge fan of these sorts of things, but I'll humor you and say steel ghost

[remote wadi]

Hard to explain. But I got super unlucky from a max damage attack

[timid zinc]

Im not currently in one

[reef tundra]

Oof 😭

[fast venture]

Rikka would be steel/lightning
Ignia would be fire/fighting
Alyssa is water/lightning
Silvana is fairy/normal
Katya is fighting/dark

[timid zinc]

But ill see

[reef tundra]

Aww, well in that case I pray you join a good campaign soon <3

[stiff rock]

what is it with clerics and unlucky crits?

[remote wadi]

I don't know. But I'm not a cleric

[quaint hound]

what a long list 😭

[timid zinc]

I love ur pfp

[reef tundra]

Ty. It’s my character named Abbey

[ancient dew]

DMs goal should be providing a fun experience for the players, so it depends on the type of game 🤷🏻‍♀️

That being said tho from experience those types of DMs have huge egos and just wanna play out their power fantasies

[fast venture]

It's not that long at all

[tribal night]

So called free thinkers when mobile and alert feat

[quaint hound]

longer than anyone else ive asked

[fast venture]

They must not make and use many characters then

[timid zinc]

She looks like a witcher character

[reef tundra]

Ty

[timid zinc]

Hey i heard of a class the other day but i havent gotten to reasearch it but whats a gloom stalker

[quaint hound]

I LOOOVEEE GLOOMSTALKERS

sorry

[timid zinc]

What are they

[stiff rock]

ranger subclass, i'm pretty sure the general idea is you attack from fog/shadows

[quaint hound]

basically a ranger subclass

[fast venture]

I like hunter ranger

[timid zinc]

Wait

[quaint hound]

and if youre in darkness, and the opponent is using darkvision they cant see you

[fast venture]

It's simple but very very effective

[tribal night]

What is your favorite feat aside from mobile and alert?

[quaint hound]

oh actually the character in my pfp in a gloomstalker

[timid zinc]

@quaint hound i look at ur bio u like SAKAMOTO DAYS!?

[woven flint]

Uh, okay, I'll humor this

Orizontas (Dragonborn Fighter) Electric/Fighting

Sovis (Drow Celestial Warlock) Dark/Fairy

Sentry (Warforged Pugilist) Fighting/Steel

Artanza (Tortle Knowledge Cleric) Psychic/Fairy and if triple typing existed.. Psychic/Fairy/Water

Pistachio (Firbolg Moon Bard) Normal/Fairy

Gustav Volta (Air Genasi Artificer)
Flying/Steel

[fast venture]

Gift of the metallic dragon

[quaint hound]

I lOVE SAKAMOTO DAYS

[stiff rock]

ASI my beloved ❤️

[fast venture]

Wing shielding a ally is peak as hell

[quaint hound]

Blind fighting

[flint ledge]

Wrong person tokii

[tribal night]

Mine would be war caster, having additional saving throws for concentration is amazing

[woven flint]

Ah shit 😭

[timid zinc]

Ur mu freind now were having soft tacos later

[quaint hound]

man 😭

[woven flint]

Chat must've moved when I pinged

[stiff rock]

if fighting styles count, i love interception

[quaint hound]

i would kill for some soft tacos rn

[timid zinc]

I cant really

I mean im in jamaica rn

Well i live here

[woven flint]

But yeah, my answers are up there lol @quaint hound

[quaint hound]

i see i see

[timid zinc]

I like the tabxi

I donr have them in dnd beyond

[woven flint]

I consider Fairy to be the Holy and Fae type because no other types really represent Divinity lol

[stiff rock]

i often view celestials as divine/holy

[fast venture]

Gift of the metallic does that :3

[woven flint]

I was talking about Pokémon types
And referring to why I made my Cleric and Warlock Fairy type to humor the "what's your characters Pokémon type" question

[stiff rock]

i've not heard great things about the heroes of faerun feats, as they're not really balanced apparently

[stiff rock]

ohh my bad lol. yeah i agree with you then

[quaint hound]

uh lets see

Vax Nym (Gloomstalker Drow) Steel/Dark

Crownrend (Conquest Warforged) Steel/Ghost (that one was easy to figure out cause hes based on Aegislash)

Silas Vire (Kensei Human) Normal/Steel

Vance Flint (Arcane Archer Human) Fighting/Fairy

[timid zinc]

Hey

Um is their any spider like race?

[fast venture]

Gift of the metallic gives +1 to a mental stat
The ability to give a ally or yourself +2 ac as a reaction (once I think?)
And a free cure wounds

[tribal night]

Giant owlbear build is so scary 😭

[woven flint]

OH YEAH!
I forgot one

Bogey (Bugbear Gloomstalker) Dark/Fairy/Grass (Grass for Ranger, Fairy because Bugbears are fey adjacent and.. Dark is obvious lol)

[grim fjord]

Nononono get those things away from me

[stiff rock]

interception reduces damage by i think a d10 as a reaction, as many times as you have reactions. i really like it for tank/protector characters

[grim fjord]

I hate spiders

[tribal night]

Dawg that's not an owlbear anymore, it's a freakin dragon

[grim fjord]

Burn them all!!!!!

[fast venture]

I was just saying as a feat it's very similar to the fighting style

[timid zinc]

I only want one because i wanna make a terrifying character

[woven flint]

I love spiders.
But all the Spider related deities in D&D kinda suck lol

[timid zinc]

Oh

[woven flint]

Stares at Lolth in particular

[worn crow]

Thri-kreen could probably work, with multi-limbed buggy people

Or.. thri-keen. One of the two

[fast venture]

I HATE SPIDERS

[timid zinc]

Hey

[fast venture]

DEATH TO ALL SPIDERS

[tribal night]

I want a dark elf baddie

[austere root]

kar'niss is a friend

[woven flint]

I prefer Vhaeraun and Eilistraee (Lolths son and daughter)
Over Spider-Wench

[quaint hound]

me too

[timid zinc]

I wanna know if this is taboo before i dm

But can i make my own pantheon

[worn crow]

Yeah

[stiff rock]

yeah i get you, and i do agree, but i think i prefer the damage reduction rather than the flat increase to ac. i'd be more inclined to say the metallic thingy is closer to whatever fighting style gives you the parry reaction (but obviously better, because you can do it to others)

[woven flint]

Vhaeraun is truly an underrated Drow Deity
So is Ghaunadaur.

[tribal night]

Press the button to get a 11/10 drow baddie
Pros: her personality is however you want it, and she is loyal to you
Cons: she's lolth

[worn crow]

You can make pretty much whatever you want, homebrew is entirely DM's choice for their world

[quaint hound]

all i see are pros 😭

[timid zinc]

I mean when creating a character dont u pick wich god u worship

I could just tell my players

I never worship a god

[quaint hound]

GUYS WHAT SHOULD I NAME MY BOW

is made out of a Displacer beast

[timid zinc]

Star catcher

[woven flint]

Ghaunadaur is so funny
He's an Ancient slime Deity, supposedly even older than Ao and even though he's in Lolths Pantheon, the Dark Seladrine, she's like
"Hey, I can't demand anything from him, he just does as he wants"

[timid zinc]

Or heart stopper

[worn crow]

No, not really. Only clerics really need to bother, but even then, some people, DMs and players included, have reflavored it with clerics not needing a god

[timid zinc]

Or shadow taker

[south prawn]

There’s no inherent requirement to

[short brook]

I feel like every martial should have maneuvers tbh, there's so much you could do with that

[tribal night]

True!

[fast venture]

I used it to save someone from getting crushed by a god, my character was a human that had been sorta mutated into a dragon/human hybrid by being bound with her patron who was a dragon

Our cleric was about to get crushed so I jumped in the way and summoned wings of steel bearing the weight of this Eldritch malevolent goddess bearing down on me

[quaint hound]

you get it fr

[fast venture]

It was so cool

[timid zinc]

Oh

[woven flint]

Clerics don't even NEED a Deity anymore
They just needed to be devoted to a concept.

[tribal night]

I will make her dazed and silly like frieren

[fast venture]

They got paladinized

[woven flint]

All my Clerics have had deities though, personally

[fast venture]

Smh

[grim fjord]

What if they make their own god?

[woven flint]

Offers more freedom imo

[woven flint]

They can't.
At least. Not if a dm doesn't allow it

[grim fjord]

Darn

[quaint hound]

as a dm im gonna make a town and say theres a dead hydra underneath the town briefly, and when they forget im gonna make my party go on a quest to find a necromancer and im gonna see if they remember that the hydra is underneath the city... quick critical thinking test

[woven flint]

It's kinda weird to make your own God when you're playing in someone else's setting

[grim fjord]

If they remember then what?

[fast venture]

I was fine with paladins being more about their drive and oath but man I really think clerics should have to be linked to a greater power

[quaint hound]

send them underneath to stop the necromancer

[stiff rock]

then they'll be expecting the undead hydra, i guess

[grim fjord]

No I meant like in the setting they could as a party make their own god in the game

[woven flint]

That's still kinda strange lol

[grim fjord]

So is a lot of what many parties do

So eh

[timid zinc]

Hey Im kinda hombrewing a campaingh mainly around the underdark

[woven flint]

I'd ask dm permission, but personally as a dm, all the God's that existed within D&D's history would be in my world and I'd just say "Do your research"
There's more than enough choices officially
You'll always find SOMETHING cool.

[quaint hound]

interesting

[timid zinc]

Ahem undertale

Ahem

[quaint hound]

alr youre getting sent to the grinder

[timid zinc]

Nooo

It was a joke

[woven flint]

My favorite Deity right now is the evil Gnomish God Urdlen
They're a giant evil mole rat creature that's all about destruction and greed.

[timid zinc]

Wven tho its the sun

[quaint hound]

so basically jeff from marvel rivals if they were a mole

[timid zinc]

I like jojos

[woven flint]

No.

[quaint hound]

yeaa im pretty sure it is

[timid zinc]

He says as a hawkeye player

[woven flint]

I get the jokes, but no.

[quaint hound]

silence.

[timid zinc]

Aimbot

[quaint hound]

WHAT

NUH UH LOOK AT SQUIRREL GIRL

[timid zinc]

Hawkeye is some skill

[quaint hound]

i think we might be off track with the dnd discussion channel

[tribal night]

Speaking of drows, I made a character where a drow is amnesiac, she is the prophecy that will end the world; avatar of annihilation. She can either be guided to the path of worldbreak or give her beer.

[timid zinc]

But ubsee im a fine gentlemen i have imaculate taste im a moon knight main

[timid zinc]

Yeah lets end that there

[quaint hound]

yea no youre getting put in the grinder for sure

[lean wigeon]

i was thinking what if maneuvers weren't a thing and instead there were better procedures for letting martials use their skills for improvised actions

[timid zinc]

Atleast im not like ahem closk amd dagger and emma frost mains

[woven flint]

Lessee, my favorite deities are
Urdlen (Gnomish Pantheon)
Kelemvor (Faeraunian Pantheon)
Sekolah (Shark Deity, don't know Pantheon)
Hoar, The Doombringer (Faeraunian Pantheon)
Vhaeraun (Drow Pantheon)
Deneir (Faeraunian Pantheon)

[timid zinc]

They play with one hand

[quaint hound]

LMAO

[timid zinc]

Oh i like sekolah too

[quaint hound]

HOLY CRAP HES JEFF THE LAND SHARK

[woven flint]

Deneir is a funny one
I only like him because he's the God of Literature and Literacy lol

[timid zinc]

Ikr

[hot marlin]

My favorites are... The entire Seldarine and Dark Seldarine aaand... Yeah, that's it.

Screw non-elven gods.

[woven flint]

Basic ass...

[timid zinc]

Im reading a literature book rn

[quaint hound]

yall should read name of the wind

[woven flint]

... all books are literature, friend

[hot marlin]

Oh wait no, I like the draconic gods outside of Bahamut and Tiamat.

[timid zinc]

Like for school

[quaint hound]

i was gonna say 😭

[hot marlin]

Oh and giant gods! I forgot those

[timid zinc]

A book about literature

[hot marlin]

Mystryl was cool. Selune and Shar are cool.

[woven flint]

I don't have any favorite Pantheon in particular, but majority of the Deities I like are in the Faeraunian Pantheon

[hot marlin]

Every other god can go right to hell

[timid zinc]

Hey i wanna make a blood mage

[timid zinc]

Oh ok

[hot marlin]

Oh and I like the demon lords. Some of them are very cool

[quaint hound]

i like Solonor

[woven flint]

I'm fond of the Demon Lords as well

[hot marlin]

Oh wait, no, I also like the gods of fury.

Damn, I like more deities than I thought

[timid zinc]

Hey how do I make an illusion master? (Like what class and race)

[quaint hound]

like rimuru from that Time I Got Reincarnated As A Slime?

[woven flint]

Talos, Umberlee, Auril and Malar, right?

[quaint hound]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/604757656565055589

[timid zinc]

Omg i love that anime i like plasmoids just because of him

[woven flint]

No.
Because he's not in D&D

[timid zinc]

@quaint hound

[quaint hound]

mhm?

[severe rampart]

Question, you always seem to know a lot of DnD lore and deities? how?, is there somewhere you can read about them?

[timid zinc]

Thanks

[quaint hound]

you say no to me alot

[hot marlin]

Exactly!

[woven flint]

Juiblex is, he's the Demon Lord of slime, he's pretty cool, but I prefer Ghaunadaur, personally

[quaint hound]

buth es not blue

[hot marlin]

Mostly I like the gods that do stuff, I think.

[woven flint]

I don't exactly know what color slime Ghaunadaur is, but, as an Underdark Deity I'd assume a Shade of purple, grey or black..
I don't think he has official art?

[timid zinc]

Hey I like plasmoids but whats the diffrence between them and ozzekins

[quaint hound]

uh when i search him up he purple

[timid zinc]

U-U-Under dark u sat hes being added to the campaign

[woven flint]

The Forgotten Realms wiki is pretty good, really
It's pretty good for citing it's information too

I always go there when I need lore stuff lol

[quaint hound]

Plagirism?

[woven flint]

No? I don't really think so
I think WOTC bought it recently..?
Idk

I haven't been told off for mentioning it before or sending links to it, so..

[timid zinc]

I remember our rouge rolled a nat 1 in a very important situation and our dm killed him so he just crashed out and left honestly it was such a surreal experience

But atkeast our bard was chill

[hot marlin]

Actually, fun fact: The wiki has been plagiarized by official products!

[tribal night]

What was your first dnd character? Mine was ironically a Githyanki Bard

[hot marlin]

What's ironic about that?

[tribal night]

He's goku that's why

[tribal night]

Because the Githyanki I made was a pacifist LMAO

He got brain damage that's why

[hot marlin]

I don't get it

[woven flint]

I mean..
Any member of any species can be a pacifist without having brain damage...?

[undone rain]

I guess its because githyankis are often violent

[tribal night]

True, depends how they're raised

[hot marlin]

It's an extremely militarized society, sure. But that's culture, not genetics.

Githyanki are still more or less the same species as the Githzerai.

[tribal night]

Fair point, but my story is the Githyanki got seperated at 50 but hit his head really hard

It's literally goku

[woven flint]

As long as you're tasteful with it, that's chill

[hot marlin]

Goku is not a pacifist

He's just an idiot

[undone rain]

True even githzerai can often be violent for sure. Its just more common their more peaceful

[woven flint]

Yeah, Goku only stopped killing as much as an adult lol

Kid Goku was...

A menace

[tribal night]

No not that part, the part where he turned good from hitting his head

[hot marlin]

As a kid, he was goddamn bloodthirsty. The killing of Piccolo was one thing, and then there's the entire massacre of the Red Ribbon army

[woven flint]

Yeah, Goku literally doesn't kill people anymore because he wants to fight them when they're stronger lol
He only really kills now when absolutely necessary

But anyways, that's off-topic
Goku as an inspiration for a character that doesn't have to be an op God is nice to hear for once

Too many people want to emulate characters powers in this game now-a-days instead of doing similar personalities for the hell of it

[rough arch]

does someone here play 3.5? i asked in elder. but sadly barely any? i try my luck here👀

[knotty vine]

Do you think a death knight and lich are beatable by a level 20 party?

[woven flint]

.. yeah?

I'd give them a small army of undead to work with though (The lich and death knight)

[spiral narwhal]

bro an archdruid elf can live 7000 years

[dense tusk]

sorcerers, do you pref empowered spell or heightened alongside quickened and twinned?

[knotty vine]

where are you getting those numbers

[woven flint]

For reference, a level 20 party I was in fought a
Nightwalker, Lich, Ghost Dragon, Skeleton Lord and a Glaberzo with a few undead spread about
No homebrew anything
And we won.

[timid zinc]

Gunslinger on the dnd wiki is op

[spiral narwhal]

arch druid feature (level 20 druid) says for every 10 years you live you age 1 year and elves live around 700 years

[knotty vine]

oh

[tribal night]

I love women

[timid zinc]

I do

[woven flint]

So
A CR 20, CR 21, CR 17, CR 9 and another CR 9 as a 4 person level 20 party (and of course some undead around CR 1-5)

[patent ember]

Im sorta a loner but not by choice.

[woven flint]

We had a War Cleric (Me), A Draconic Sorcerer, an Abjurer Wizard and a Champion Fighter

[agile flint]

received email about play testing
PLAYTEST 4 VILLAINOUS
SUBCLASSES

and the link in the email says 403 forbidden . is there an updated link ?

[woven flint]

And barely anyone but me took damage because I tanked almost everything with my shitload of damage resistances

[woven flint]

So, I'd suggest slapping on some pretty powerful back-up if this is supposed to be a final battle lol

[rough basalt]

I feel bad for that Lich and Death Knight

[knotty vine]

Guess ill add 3 other death knights or something

[buoyant oar]

For a level 20 party you went and something Beyond just monsters to the field to make the combat engaging

[unkempt atlas]

So, I created a proper sheet for my fairy barbarian, and low-key grossly miscalculated her stats

[cedar bane]

give each their own personal death knight, for emotional support

[hot marlin]

Somewhat easily. But like all things, it depends on resources spent before the fight.

[buoyant oar]

Some environmental effect or something like that Something like a fail condition beyond the party dying

[woven flint]

4 Death Knights and their Death Knight Aspirant squires

[unkempt atlas]

Level 3, hp is 73, ac is 22

[hot marlin]

If I exhausted my level 20 party through harsh environment, a dozen fights, had an enemy steal some of their magic items, prevented them from resting for three days, a single lich might destroy them.

But a fully rested level 20 party? Normally, they can take just about anything

[knotty vine]

auagh

[cedar bane]

-- my emotional support death knight when i tell them about my feelings of lonliness

[hot marlin]

Remember: D&D 5e is a resource management game.

[timid zinc]

Whats critical roll?

Ive heard if it before

[cedar bane]

a liveplay run by popular voice actors

[timid zinc]

Oh

So like a streamed game?

[patent ember]

the most famous dnd series/"podcast" that most dnd players inspire to be like.

[cedar bane]

yeah pretty much, though much more high budget than your usual one

[dense tusk]

guys for a sorcerer how many damage spells should I have? Like I kinda want to forgo any level 2 damage spells and just stick to mirror image and misty step with level 1 magic missile and dissonant whispers as my damage

[cedar bane]

and yeah its extremely popular to the point theres official books with Wotc on their world

[timid zinc]

Oh

Is it family freindly

[cedar bane]

i like two go to ones, and then one for each level

[dense tusk]

no

[fiery nimbus]

my party members apparently have a problem with my idea to stage a fake demon invasion

[cedar bane]

its not explicitly not family friendly but its very much adults making adult jokes

and acting like adults

[timid zinc]

Is there any cursing?

[cedar bane]

i see no flaws

[dense tusk]

there is Laura Bailey

[timid zinc]

Who?

[cedar bane]

i havent watched it really but i know the actors and theres a 99% with them

[grim fjord]

They clearly do not recognize your wisdom

[patent ember]

I would just watch clip completions on youtube, if you dont care about spoilers.

[cedar bane]

in short: yes theres swearing

[dense tusk]

running joke where she has a dirty mind and says stuff out loud 😄

[patent ember]

dang i cant spell jack.

[timid zinc]

Wait

[hot marlin]

Not really. Plenty of sex jokes and toilet humour

[timid zinc]

They have kid trunks!

[fiery nimbus]

Well, we got caught summoning a demon, dispatched the witness but now we are kind of wanted for it
so i figured if we staged a demon invasion we could get a job in trying to put it down, and that will buy us enough time
to stage a real demon invasion

[timid zinc]

Sounds like family guy

[cedar bane]

is that a euphemism or merch

[dense tusk]

so like would you go scorching ray instead of mirror image

[cedar bane]

its just adults acting like adults basically

[grim fjord]

Insanely smart

[hot marlin]

Kind of. It's all rather lowbrow, especially with two of the actors

[timid zinc]

No the vpice actor laura Bailey voice acys kid trunks

[hot marlin]

So it's the sort of humour that appeals to teenagers, you know?

[cedar bane]

depends on your party, but theyre both very good. check what you have and see if you need defense or offense

[cedar bane]

oh got it, but yeah as said theyre popular voice actors

[dense tusk]

I don't know any party members yet

[cedar bane]

i once again see no flaws

[dense tusk]

its campaign start at 4 and I am putting it together