dnd-discussion

[hot marlin]

Tenser's Transformation comes to mind, but it's garbage, don't use it

It may be one of the worst spells in the game.

[halcyon bison]

True strike, booming blade, green-flame blade, magic weapon, holy weapon, steel wind strike, divine smite...

just to name a few

[hot marlin]

There are lots of smite spells however

[lavish flame]

Magic Weapon, Elemental Weapon, Flame Arrows, Holy Weapon... idk after that

[lone whale]

I love being a rouge carrying a glaive

[halcyon bison]

(Secret fun fact: you can get Wrathful Smite without being a paladin: with the shadow touched feat)

[undone rain]

A smite you say

[woven flint]

its not really secret tbh

[proper forum]

Hello dungeoners and dragoners

[halcyon bison]

shhh don't tell anyone 🤫

[woven flint]

Its a first level enchantment just like other first level enchantments

[halcyon bison]

no its necromancy

[proper forum]

Obvious fun fact: you can get wrathful Smite without being a paladin by being a hexblade warlock

[undone rain]

Damn thats good.

[woven flint]

ah, well, still, its probably the worst of the smites to get lmao

Frighten and Necrotic Damage? ehhh...
for a class made to combat undead and fiends

[hot marlin]

Booming Blade is excellent for focusing on a single opponent, especially a highly mobile one. Green Flame Blade is excellent for clearing out hordes of weaker opponents.

Know when to use them.

[lavish flame]

went from Evocation to Necromancy

[woven flint]

Not all undead are immune to Necrotic and Frighten of course,
I just think making it necrotic was a choice

[halcyon bison]

Sometimes paladins needs to smite other things too!

[jolly agate]

Ma DM just told us that we goin to have another session today. Yipieee

[lone whale]

Nice!

[woven flint]

Yes, obviously, I just think its a strange choice to make it necrotic regardless,
I would've gone with Psychic or something of the sort personally

[fossil siren]

Doesn't gift of the protectors seem kind of underwhelming?
like compared to lifedrinker - an invocation of the same level

Gift of the protectors gives you a once per long rest relentless endurance (drop 1 hitpoint instead of 0 if not killed outright) while lifedrinker grants you extra damage (psychic, raidant or necrotic) on the first attack and an optional hit-dice heal every round. Doesnt seem that they are on par seeing as both are level 9 invocations.

[woven flint]

My favorite paladin spell personally is Destructive Wave 🧐

[woven flint]

I still think both are completely valid choices.

[halcyon bison]

huh apparently lots of fiends aren't immune to being frightened!

[proper forum]

Forget about paladin spells what is ur favorite warlock spell?

[woven flint]

Both are good, keeping someone from going down one per long rest can be insanely useful

[woven flint]

Hunger of Hadar

[halcyon bison]

Probably armor of Agathys or Danse Macabre

[proper forum]

Can u a cantrip and a spell in the same turn or no?

[undone rain]

Hellish rebuke

[fossil siren]

But they dont seem to be really on the same level of utility when someone can just heal someone when they get downed (usually)

[woven flint]

Yes, if ones an action and the other is a bonus action

[halcyon bison]

you always can in 2024

[proper forum]

Isn't there something that says only one spell per turn?

[woven flint]

People can also be killed pretty quickly when they're downed, some dms are nice enough not to attack downed players but all it takes is a 3 hits or a Crit and a hit
Which, since you're prone when you're downed, Melee creatures have advantage on attack roll against you

[stray sage]

there is a trend i discovered in D&D, or atleast in the servers i run

making marine characters (aka characters that live under the sea) is much harder than making terrestrial or flying characters

[halcyon bison]

In 2014 it's only the bonus action can be a levelled spell and in 2024 its only one spell slot per turn (which cantrips don't consume)

[woven flint]

There are also the rare Instakill effects against downed players as well

(Intellect Devourer for one)

[cobalt schooner]

Is it specifically only the level spelled could be a BA. I though one centrip and one leveled spell as long as one was a BA and one was an A

[stray sage]

why do you think this is the case?

[woven flint]

Its a free deathward, so I can get why its once per long rest

[fossil siren]

with the revive it only takes one more. Like if you are getting hounded already, it won't help much since you are 1 hp. It seems to be very niche in it's use compared to lifedrinker which even at it's most passive grants extra changable damage every round.

[fossil siren]

deathward prevents instant death - gift of the protectors doesnt

[woven flint]

You're not always going to have someone that can revive you in your parties

[fossil siren]

yes then taking life drinker and not going down in the first place seems better no?

[woven flint]

It can keep you dying for just a bit longer, like Relentless Endurance

[jolly agate]

I think i like 2014 more than 2024

it's like, cooler

[woven flint]

You can take both now in 2024 anyway if you want to go Tome and Blade, thats what I did lmao
So I don't get the complaint

[fossil siren]

OR take like lessons of the first ones and just take a heal

which is available at a lower level

[woven flint]

Thats true, but sometimes people just want to play their characters how they want

[fossil siren]

because it's a wasted cool invocation

[woven flint]

I don't think its wasted, but everyone is entilted to their own opinions

Mind you, you could just write all your party members names down and just wait for something bad to happen, sure its only one person, but it protects the ENTIRE party once per long rest

[fossil siren]

Like i would like to take it - But it literally will see no play with my character - or if it will ever activate it would be in a situation where the extra health from lifedrinker would've been better

[fossil siren]

True i guess

[oak ledge]

I need a dm and players

[halcyon bison]

mmm... life.... delicious.....

[woven flint]

If you have a Cleric or Paladin, gift of protectors them so if they could possibly get downed, they don't or they have a bit more time to be helped before they get killed

[jolly agate]

I am a player

[oak ledge]

Okay

[cosmic roost]

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[fossil siren]

that's why i have spare the dying from the tome

[jolly agate]

Wait, pbp session or vc session?

[woven flint]

I, personally, would rather choose any other cantrip over spare the dying anyway
Its also a case of
"IF you can heal someone, why do you take it?"
Which was kinda your argument against Gift of the Protectors

[fossil siren]

it's basically the same thinking of so the healer or a teammate with a health potion can make it in time

[woven flint]

Gift of the Protectors is REACTIONARY, you have to wait for your turn for Spare the dying

[fossil siren]

difference is i have cantrips enough

to spare one on spare the dying as opposed invocations to use on gift of the protectors

[halcyon bison]

not dying is good in my opinion

[stiff rock]

is it vegan to eat a dryad?

[oak ledge]

Any one want to play

[woven flint]

Sure, I guess, but I'd rather have something that

1. doesn't bite into my action economy
2. doesn't have to wait for my turn to be used
3. has potential to stop someone from dying right away

You can't always plan to spare the dying someone, especially when there could be MULTIPLE enemies between them and your turn

[halcyon bison]

No, dryads are fey not plants

It's vegan to eat a treant :3

[stiff rock]

aren't they spirits of trees though? or am I thinking of something else

I may be mixing them up with treants yeah

Thank you

[woven flint]

I think eating another sentient living creature would go against veganism

[halcyon bison]

No they are the spirits of trees, they're just not plants 🤷‍♀️

[halcyon bison]

Some elves would disagree with you

[woven flint]

Eating a creature with thoughts and like feelings is exactly what vegans DO NOT want to do?

[fast latch]

No

It feels pain

[fossil siren]

Hmm i guess, it's very team centric innit

As a more so self-use invocation it isn't good enough

[woven flint]

Elves aren't explicitly Herbivorous or Vegan though
They're Omnivorous

[drifting zodiac]

Can you play as a kobold?

[woven flint]

Yes, they're in Monsters of the Multiverse

[fast latch]

Stereotypically they’re vegetarian/vegan

[undone rain]

I wonder what its like being a plant

[halcyon bison]

In some media they refuse to eat animals but do eat people (just don't tell them humans are animals)

[woven flint]

Thats why its a sterotype, because its incorrect, especially in D&D.

[reef tundra]

You can

[drifting zodiac]

Reminds me of that scene in the Hobbit with the Dwarves going to the Elves place I forgot the name

[woven flint]

Elves AREN'T explicitly Herbivores in D&D.
They WILL/Can eat meat.

[tall forge]

Remember, every elf is different

[proper forum]

That only applies to wood elves. High elves don't care. Dark elves can't be vegan because there's no plants in the underdark.

[halcyon bison]

They could eat mushrooms if they wanted to!

[proper forum]

You can't live only eating mushrooms

[halcyon bison]

but its magical fantasy mushrooms

Also anyone can go vegan if they have druids who can cast goodberry

[woven flint]

That's also incorrect:

"While wood elves felt it better to have a minimal impact on their surroundings, the race had no particular aversion to meat-eating and were passionate hunters."

[tall forge]

Elves in my world dont eat animal meat, and only consume monster meat

[proper forum]

Thank you for correcting me

[woven flint]

I'm telling you folks, no Elf is specifically Herbivorous.

[tall forge]

Besides, end of the day its a culture thing

[proper forum]

So yeah in conclusion elves can and will eat meat if they want to

[tall forge]

Like how elves are considered adults at 100 is purely a culture thing

[woven flint]

It is indeed a cultural thing, but thinking an entire species follows one culture is a bit odd lol

[jolly agate]

I mean sometimes you die and get revived by some eldrich demon lord giving you cool powers and shi

[reef tundra]

Yeah! They physically look like human adults at the same age, 18, right?

[halcyon bison]

yeah but you can't guarantee that

[proper forum]

They age normally?

[jolly agate]

Dying can be good sometimes if you are lucky and YEARN for a buff

[fast latch]

That should be reversed
The Wood Elves should eat meat eaters since eating meat is natural

The High Elves shouldn’t because they have higher moral standards (Sometimes)

[woven flint]

Wood Elves ARE Omnivores.
I just pointed that out lol

"While wood elves felt it better to have a minimal impact on their surroundings, the race had no particular aversion to meat-eating and were passionate hunters."

[drifting zodiac]

Wait why would elves be herbivores if they are at least most of them rangers

[fossil siren]

shoutout to my reborn brothas and sistas

[proper forum]

High elves don't have higher moral standards. They think they do. But in reality they're just racist. Not as racist as the dark elves though.

[reef tundra]

I think the only time I can see an entire race being carnivorous or vegetarian is if their biology literally makes them one way or the other

[tall forge]

Elves age physically the exact same as humans, but in dnd elven cultures are not considered adults until 100

[fast latch]

They’re usually Wizards, Druids, or Rangers, yeah

[woven flint]

Truth.

But, yes, Majority of Elves are omnivorous in Nature in the forgotten realms, as a good majority of humanoid species are as well

[drifting zodiac]

Even Lotr elves weren't herbivores

[jovial shadow]

Did they change the way Elves age somewhere? In AD&D 1e they aged far slower than humans. Being infants at 50 years old.

[jolly agate]

Pray to ya fav demon lord, then fight to Death against some Paladins and Thou might reborn brotha

[proper forum]

So when my drow character watched her parents die, she wasn't 5 in elven years. She was ACTUALLY 5. Like literally 5 years old. Woa...

[drifting zodiac]

Being a baby for 50 years seems torture

[tall forge]

Yea

[jolly agate]

confirmed by ma cow

[jolly agate]

Ye

[woven flint]

I see there are... a lot of misconceptions about Elves in the realms
But thats okay because they are a bit confusing, aren't they?

[proper forum]

I was meaning to ask you this last time but how is your character a cow?

[tall forge]

Ive never heard of this being a thing for the last solid 2 decades

[fast latch]

In 5e, I think they age at the same rate as humans until age 20

[drifting zodiac]

Only one nanny per use (get it cus they die of old age assuming the nanny is human)

[fossil wigeon]

Hey

[jovial shadow]

Yeah in AD&D 1e DMG it gives the specific age time lines for all PC species: Elves, Humans, Dwarves etc.

[jolly agate]

Sooooooo. My boy, He's the son of a cow-headed Minotaur and a centaur. And since cow genetics are strong, he turned out to be a whole Highland cow. (He also has a sister that's a whole human)

[fossil wigeon]

I was thinking. Is multiclassing a rouge with warlock good?

[halcyon bison]

in one campaign I was there was a tavern run by "vegan" mind flayers
not as in they eat plants but that they eat the emotions of the people who go to their tavern instead of brains

[drifting zodiac]

"looking for a part time nanny, work lasting to at least 90 years

[proper forum]

And don't even get me started on the weird ones that live outside of the material plane

[tall forge]

Thats probably bc it directly just is tolkien elves

[jovial shadow]

Great employment opportunities.

[woven flint]

I will say, Elvish culture in D&D is actually more subversive of expectations than you'd really think

[tall forge]

But at least since 4e, elves physically mature the same as humans

[proper forum]

Sigh... why is it always the highland cows? Just because they're "fluffy" and "cute" doesn't mean that other cows deserve any less attention.

[jolly agate]

But since my boy got slayed and then eaten by Paladins of Tyr and a High Priest, Only the bones remained. AND then they were found by cultists of Baphomet (one of his patrons). Then they performed a ritual of Baphomet (they killed a deva and a lot of stuff) revived him, but there were only bones. So my boy was revived as a Fiend

[jovial shadow]

Well 5.5 doesn't specify it either way, so I guess it's open to DM interpretation.

[tall forge]

5.5 is an extension of 5e, all rules and lore still apply

[jolly agate]

Becuse ma boy was the silly one in the party, Comic relief. Someone has to carry the burden of being silly and cute.

[jovial shadow]

Not necessarily

[tall forge]

Unless directly countered by 5.5e

[drifting zodiac]

" I joined a while back as young as I was full of hope and opportunities"- puts out the cigarette in a wooden chair " now I am 76 and still a part timer!."

[fossil wigeon]

Because I was thinking to multiclass my rouge with a monk or a warlock

[woven flint]

Elves for example have a pretty respectful relationship with Dwarves even if they are pretty culturally distinct
They've never really had a reason within lore to hate eachother

Which... is pretty based imo

[fast latch]

How high is your Wis versus your Cha?

[round estuary]

Hellloo

[fast latch]

Hi

[jolly agate]

Helloooooo

[tall forge]

I think that dnds move toward less species based issues is pretty cool

[round estuary]

Can you be a fairy in dnd?

[tall forge]

The drow/tiefling speciesm was never really fun

[jolly agate]

Yes

[fossil wigeon]

My Wis is 9. But my Cha is 15. So Warlock?

[fast latch]

Yeah

[round estuary]

I wanna be tinks lol

[fast latch]

Definitely Warlock then

[tall forge]

You can be whatever your DM allows

[fossil wigeon]

Alright then

[drifting zodiac]

Idk if you cannot be anything in dnd

[round estuary]

Imma be a toaster haha

[fast latch]

You can’t be a Mind Flayer without homebrew

[jovial shadow]

I was against Tieflings being player classes, and then they became one of the most popular classes somehow

[drifting zodiac]

A giant ground sloth?

[jolly agate]

If one of ya party is an artificer that might be possible

[tall forge]

Being a tieflings awesome tbf

[fast latch]

Why would anyone be against playing a part-devil?

Part-devils are SICK

[jolly agate]

I think it's written "Theetfling"

[woven flint]

Honestly, Dwarves in the realms are pretty cool
They like Halflings, respect human architecture because its similar to their own, view Goliaths as kindred spirits and the Relationship between them and Elves is more akin to squabbling siblings than any violent virtiol hatred

[small sand]

I mean tiefling prejudice at least does sort of make sense in-world. The hells are objectively real and you can go there

[jolly agate]

Dwarves are ALWAYS cool

[fossil wigeon]

By the way. I always wondered. The patrons of warlocks. When you do a pact with them. You have to do give something in exchange. Like your soul. But what if they don't ask for your soul. What else would they want? Depending on the patron?

[jolly agate]

In any world

[woven flint]

Dwarves are just the lowkey chill fellas

[tall forge]

With how common they can be, i disagree

[fast latch]

Orcs are cooler than Dwarves

Stronger, better at surviving, faster

[normal junco]

a patron might want a task to be done. or a continuous amount of something over time as payment.

[drifting zodiac]

Are Goliaths like half giants or their own species or both

[echo meteor]

I was sleeping/thinking about on stealth and my interpretation is you MUST beat DC15 to hide, it doesn't matter WHO you are hiding from, DC15 is the minimum....
If a player is about to be attacked, but they happen to roll unusually high even with disadvantage and beat the initiaitve of the attackers. They will be notified that they hear a "bow being drawn" or "whipserings of a spell being cast"... but they dont know where it is coming from.

THEN they take their turn not knowing wtf is attacking them

[jolly agate]

Nuh uh

[tall forge]

Technically you don’t have to give anything

But basically whatever the contract says

[fossil wigeon]

Ok. I see

[jolly agate]

Half gigants

[woven flint]

Tieflings probably typically have more prejudice against them when born amongst humans

otherwise, I don't think many species are that judgemental

[jolly agate]

*Theetflings

[tall forge]

Like humans should be the ones people are scared of

They just appeared outta no where

[halcyon bison]

I like dwarves, I just wish they would dig deeper still… don’t listen to all that talk of hubris!

[woven flint]

Apparently, most species are unsure of them, but remain coordial

[drifting zodiac]

So you can play Giants and Goliaths so similar to Orcs and half orcs or elves and half elves?

[small sand]

I don't think completely sidestepping bigotry or culture clashes is really the way to go either is my thing. I mean to each their own obviously. But stories need conflict

[halcyon bison]

Nothing bad could possibly come from delving deeper still

[jolly agate]

I think?

[drifting zodiac]

Eldritch horrors?

[bleak wave]

hi guys!!

[tall forge]

I deal enough with that type of conflict irl, let me punch god instead of tim from walmart

[jolly agate]

Hiiiii

[humble cairn]

I feel like species monocultures is lazy writing.

[small sand]

Humans are clearly just really tall halflings smh

[fossil wigeon]

I was thinking between genie (djinni) or fathomless

[jolly agate]

Fathomless is pretty cool ngl

[jovial shadow]

Minus the hairy feet

[halcyon bison]

Nahhh don’t be silly
There’s treasure down there! Keep digging! Dig deeper! Don’t stop!!

[tall forge]

Thats tolkein again

[drifting zodiac]

Planet of the hats tropes

[fast latch]

Depends
In my game, an NPC’s employee contract for the restaurant he works at includes a Warlock pact
The owner is an Archfey

[bleak wave]

how would i find campaigns?

[jolly agate]

#find-a-game

[drifting zodiac]

Guys I hear cats crying like humans in my widow

[woven flint]

Agreed, and I'm glad D&D has tried to branch out from it a bit

[humble cairn]

In a world where many many species of people exist, there would obviously be some cultures that include multiple species.

[jolly agate]

It is rather hard tho ngl

[humble cairn]

I'm not 100% sure what this means.

[tall forge]

General trope of “you found this civilization, and they ALL do THIS thing”

[proper forum]

Is his name "ma boy"?

[drifting zodiac]

It's a writing tropes most commonly seen in star wars where everyone in a planet is the same

[humble cairn]

And even in the real world where we only acknowledge one species of people we can see that one species can have multiples cultures.

[small sand]

I think it's cool how Pathfinder has the Khorevar (i think that's what they're called iirc?) Who are like a culture of half-elves, like sort of like Métis or Mestize ppl irl

[jolly agate]

Don't be silly, His name Is Thistlemane Trickhorn (Aka Ma boy cuz he's ma char)

[drifting zodiac]

Same culture same language same everything

[fast latch]

No, that’s Eberron

[bleak wave]

okay ty!!

[humble cairn]

You mean the Khoravar from Eberron?

[proper forum]

Also he's technically a bull, not a cow

[jolly agate]

Ye but ma party keeps calling him cow so

I guess it got stuck in my head.

[small sand]

Yeagh

[fossil wigeon]

Well,I know that Djinni is useful for mobility and high damage dealer (because I was thinking for an speed build for my character) or Fathomless because my character is an ex pirate and has the background as sailor (fits the sea vibes)

[humble cairn]

And yes, the Khoravar are cool, they are their own people not half anything. But I also would like to see not only multiple cultures in a species, but multispecies cultures as well.

[jolly agate]

Also he was "The Cow" most of the game cuz. bulls can't talk (Until we went to Thulantar and bad things happened. And I was able to speak)

[drifting zodiac]

Like Odi from Backyard Farm or whatever the title

[woven flint]

You know?
I don't think I have a favorite species

[proper forum]

Also also: how did you even play him. Like did you use the stablock of a regular bull?

[jolly agate]

Nah, Minotaur statblock

[woven flint]

Firbolgs would probably be up there, I'm playing my first soon

[proper forum]

Backyard farm 😭😭😭

[woven flint]

Otis from Back at the Barnyard? lol

[jolly agate]

But he's a bull. No hands and stuff. I can only do the things a bull can do.

[proper forum]

But he's just a regular bull isn't he?

[drifting zodiac]

What class is the Bull sorcerer?

[small sand]

Iirc there are half-elves who don't identify with the term in world, like it's a specific culture of "half elves" not a general term

[tall forge]

A trans icon

[jolly agate]

A Magic Warlock bull (Untill he died and got revived into somethin more)

[woven flint]

A monk, clearly /silly

[woven flint]

FR, you're not even lyin'

[drifting zodiac]

Like half elves can even be 1/16 elf right? Not just 1/2

[fast latch]

I have a society where Kuo-Toa, Drow, Duergar, Svirfhoweveryouspellit, and a Human subrace with Darkvision and Sunlight Sensitivity live together in harmony

[proper forum]

Did they turn you into a patty

[humble cairn]

Yes, but still the Khoravar are their own people.

[tall forge]

Technically in dnd, no

It’s half elf or full human or full elf

[jolly agate]

cmon i just said it to you 😭

[woven flint]

Svirfneblin (Deep Gnomes) are dope, I love them

[tall forge]

With human being a dominant trait apparently

[humble cairn]

This is why I'm glad half elf is no longer a specific species mechanically, going forward.

[drifting zodiac]

So if a half elf has a baby with a human that baby is a human?

[small sand]

I don't actually know? Iirc at least in the Forgotten realms a half elf and an elf just make an elf, a half elf and a human just make a human

[jovial shadow]

Well there are no half anything anymore in 5.5e

[tall forge]

Yep

[drifting zodiac]

What

[proper forum]

Patty steak or meatloaf?

[drifting zodiac]

Wait so no more half Orcs?

[jolly agate]

Check ur dms

[tall forge]

There… is?

[drifting zodiac]

Goliaths count?

[normal junco]

they did completely do away with the full Lings, though.

[tall forge]

Again you can still use 5e content in 5.5e

[drifting zodiac]

You guys got me confused now

[small sand]

I mean this is absolutely going to be rolled back tbh

[humble cairn]

I hope not.

[fast latch]

They worship Eilistraee, Callarduran, and a homebrew Kuo-Toa god named GrLek-CkraL-GraAK

[woven flint]

I agree with Mix-Species being a flavored thing over a mechanical thing now
I always thought that was a tad bit weird...

[jovial shadow]

There is not

[humble cairn]

💯

[proper forum]

Thx I guess

[drifting zodiac]

There is no Half Elf update 2024 species ...

And half orc

[tall forge]

But you can still use 5e content

[jolly agate]

anyway that's kinda it

[small sand]

Getting rid of racial traits just sounds like making the game less fantastical. Getting rid of the term race I understand tho

[normal junco]

depends on the DM. when you start intermixing 5e and 5.5e content you sometimes end up with weird or less than functional results

[fossil wigeon]

So which one sounds better? Djinni or Fathomless? Both are good for me. But don't know which one to choose. Someone to help with my speed build

[jovial shadow]

backwards compatible, as long as you use the rules for Origin speicies and background

[drifting zodiac]

That was something (everytime I think I learnt something... it changes )

[tall forge]

Thars like saying the there isnt any Aarokokra just bc it hasnt been updated yet

[drifting zodiac]

Are Planetars or those big winged guys a thing

[drifting zodiac]

Jarnathan NOO

[humble cairn]

Are you talking about the stat bonuses? Because pure number bonuses is like the most boring way to try and add flavor.

[undone rain]

Hmm should i play a rogue swashbuckler. I like being a frontliner but perhaps i want smth new

[fast latch]

Djini is stronger for land campaigns, Fathomless is stronger for sea campaigns

[woven flint]

I hope when Aarakocra are updated they're finally considered Elementals character species wise as PCs

[fossil wigeon]

Yeah. I recommend. Because my rogue is a swashbuckler

[small sand]

I mean there are other racial traits iirc but yeah. I mean, it mattering like class is kind of a staple of the genre

[halcyon bison]

I’m glad they’re becoming less shy about non-humanoid adventurers

[woven flint]

For those wondering WHY Aarakocra are elementals, its because they originate from the Elemental Plane of Air

[proper forum]

If we are still talking about this in my world one of the cities is a massive trade hub where many different species can be found living together, which is unusual especially to that degree.

[fast latch]

I played a Swashbuckler in a West Marches campaign

His name was Vi’hyathracn “Vi” Blightfang and he was really cool

[woven flint]

Not every elemental needs to be MADE of their element, which is fun
They just need an innate connection

[humble cairn]

It's not that important of one, considering how the game still plays just fine, and it has always made me uncomfortable personally, so I think it's better off gone and I'm glad.

[halcyon bison]

Also the fact that most healing spells work on undead and constructs now probably means we’re going to get to play those creature types :D

[undone rain]

Well alr they seem pretty good. Ill give em a shot

[woven flint]

Ophid!
Are you ready for us to all kick Oroboros' ass today?

[jovial shadow]

I never wondered. I never heard of the Aarakora other than seeing it as the first monster in the MM

[fast latch]

Just make sure to have a high Cha

Half the fun of being a Swashbuckler is persuasion and deception

[undone rain]

Gotcha

[fast latch]

Question, GoF

How long have you been playing DnD?

[lavish flame]

part of me wishes they did something cool with the Species and their relationship with Ability Score adjustments. I still want it to affect you somehow statwise, just not all of ur stat increases. I prolly would've preferred if both Species and Background gave Ability Score adjustments

[small sand]

I mean it's also sort of performative on account of Wizards tbh. And I say that as monarch of woke. "Getting rid of racial traits but were still greedy as the hells"

[fossil wigeon]

In that case. I will go with Djinni because 85% of the time I am on the land. And 15% on the water with my skiff (but this session my skiff broke and sank)

[humble cairn]

Looking forward to it, but also I woke up after only 3 hours of sleep.

[drifting zodiac]

I hope they don't eliminate races entirely and just make both class and races the same thing

[fast latch]

That’s too much stats

[halcyon bison]

That seems unlikely

[humble cairn]

Performative or not, it was good and makes me and a lot of other players I've talked to feel more comfortable.

[woven flint]

NOOO, Get better sleep, damn you!

[humble cairn]

I'm supposed to be sleeping now, it's 1:30am for me.

[small sand]

If we're getting rid of racial traits can humans have dark vision. As a treat

[jovial shadow]

Well the word "races" is no longer a thing, it's replaced with Species. I would gander that Crawford wanted to get rid monsters as PC's altogether, but his team warned him of a rebellion from players if he did.

[woven flint]

No, humans don't deserve to see in the dark

[jolly agate]

I have never played human ngl, it's just boring

[woven flint]

Also, nice pfp

[lavish flame]

You can't imagine some way they might balance it?

[woven flint]

Humans are interesting in the Realms, but I can agree it'd be boring to play humans when I could play mythical creatures

[lavish flame]

Its already a +2, +1 system. Just make both origin components take one of those

[fast latch]

Playing monsters is freaking awesome

I want to play MORE monsters

I want to play Kuo-Toa

I’m playing a homebrewed Kuo-Toa race in my library campaign

[jolly agate]

Yeah like Cow

[small sand]

Tyyy

[normal junco]

5e has playable Kuo-Toa.

[jolly agate]

Would you play human when you can be a mystical creature like a cow?

[fast latch]

Since when?!

[jovial shadow]

I never wanted to play anything other than a human. Aasimar was my next thought because they originally could only be human bred, but 5.5 changed this to any species

[normal junco]

Elemental Evil: Locatha Rising has playable Kuo-Toa.

[small sand]

I mean if the goal is not having innately evil "races" or encoding racial biases, wouldn't getting rid of "monsters" as pcs literally do the opposite lol

[woven flint]

Oh, our Waterdeep party has adopted some Kuo-Toa
We spared them and my Cleric revived one that the party killed out of self-defense and now they see us as gods lmao..
They live at our Tavern with us

[lavish flame]

Locathah Rising has playable Locathah. These are not Kuo-Toa though.

[jolly agate]

Fish sons

[normal junco]

doh, its been a while

[jolly agate]

I like it

[woven flint]

I wouldn't say adopted, but we felt pity for them because they calimed Xanathar was an abusive boss, so we allowed them to work in our tavern with us

[humble cairn]

All species count as monsters, including humans. NPCs that are antagonists are monsters.

[jovial shadow]

I personally don't have a problem with people wanting to play monsters. It's just not my taste, because I feel fantasy is all about heroes. And those heroes in TV shows and movies in the 80's were mostly Humans, elves and dwarves, but mostly humans

[woven flint]

They're named after fish from the Philipeans since our Dm is FIlipino

[fast latch]

My Kuo-Toa did the opposite

He adopted three Kobolds (Dobold, Jobold, and Hobold) who worship him as a god

[jolly agate]

Alr now that's a peak choice of names

[lavish flame]

I would honestly love unique "Dwarf" monster statblocks and unique "Aasimar" monster statblocks. I like the Firbolg, Goliath, and Drow statblocks we have, I'd love them for all species.

[woven flint]

We've got three Kuo-Toa now, but the only name I can think of right away is Tilapia

[humble cairn]

Any playable species is already assumed to include members of any morality, so that's already done?

[normal junco]

its funny, so much of this is in Tales of the Valiant

[lavish flame]

dude I'm not playing that lmfao

[fast latch]

What’s that?

[woven flint]

Ah, I found the names of our Kuo-Toa friends:
Bangus, Tilapia, Galungong

[normal junco]

you can just grab monster stat blocks and pull them in

[jovial shadow]

That would be homebrew, and not the rules

[serene jolt]

If I can be a Gnoll, I will be a Gnoll. Don't need to ask me twice.

[normal junco]

Tales of the Valiant is an offshoot of 5e, by Kobold Press. it has different updates than 5.5e. neither is better. they are all just different flavours of the same thing.

[humble cairn]

Mmm, bangus is delicious.

[woven flint]

I, within my heart, cannot believe Kuo-Toa are truly evil,
They're too damn cute

[serene jolt]

Most of my characters are various types of monsters. Even my "elf" is a flavored Kitsune (she's a druid so I can pull it off mechanically).

[humble cairn]

That's the human pack bonding instinct.

[woven flint]

Protect small friends and show them that theres light beyond the darkness

[serene jolt]

I am happy dnd decided to make PC versions of monsters like kobolds, orcs, goblins, and even more recently, gnolls.

[halcyon bison]

I don’t think Kuo-Tao are evil either! Does their stat block say they are cus that wouldn’t make sense

[woven flint]

Bangus, Tilapia and Galungong (our dear Kuo-Toa) see us as gods because of how we preformed in combat against their group, but we're trying to lead them away from that perspective because we want them to treat us as equals and friends and not as gods

[proper forum]

In my world centaurs have some interesting lore. In ancient times (2000 years or so before the current setting) centaurs lived like wild horses, in nomadic herds each led by a single stallion. They did not build permanent houses and did not have a writing system. After 1000 years or so, they slowly started adapting to the human lifestyle since they often worked with them. Now all centaurs live in cities. Some consider this an improvement since their lives are now easier, others feel like the human lifestyle has been forced on them and that they were forced to abandon their culture.

[serene jolt]

(Granted, Gnoll PCs are "third party" but accepted by DnDBeyond)

[halcyon bison]

Poor gnolls, they’re just so hungry :(

[woven flint]

But also because its dangerous for Kuo-Toa to actually BELIEVE someone is a god

[normal junco]

i am now inspired to swap Gnoll and Giff just to have hungry hungry hippos.

[woven flint]

There are plenty of Deities that have came into existence purely due to Kuo-Toa belief

[small sand]

Maybe you could have like, Centaur Dalish, who still live in herds on the plains or whatever. Maybe they could be inspired by real life Mongolians or another horse-centered culture

[fast latch]

Very cool

[grave harbor]

Helloooo

[proper forum]

Lowkey I think the centaurs of this world may be more developed than the humans

[fast latch]

Hi

[undone rain]

Hey rq which races have a high movement.

[drifting zodiac]

why did i think that gnolls looked like halflings but smaller

[fast latch]

Tabaxi, Centaur, old Aarakocra

[normal junco]

you were thinking of gnomes?

[undone rain]

Thanks homie

[drifting zodiac]

yessss

[small sand]

Gnomes are like halflings but their ears are pointy like elves

[drifting zodiac]

but why is human just in diffrent sizes gnomes, halfings , dwarves, human,

[woven flint]

Dwarves are Medium like humans

[drifting zodiac]

dwarves ok i understand

[woven flint]

Gnomes are a HUGE step away from Human

[normal junco]

a dwarf of mine refused to believe that gnomes were their own thing and were instead just the halfling version of elves.

[drifting zodiac]

gnomes and halfings?

[serene jolt]

How I see the difference between them is this:
Halflings: "Hobbits", small humans
Gnomes: Mystical small people
Dwarves: Bulky, strong, short people, usually with a beard

[north lake]

Gnomes are honestly closer to fey in my opinion

[drifting zodiac]

that sounds racist ngl

[normal junco]

it was racist.

[small sand]

I mean aren't they canonically from the Feywild in most settings. So they are just halfling elves essentially

[proper forum]

Hm... No I don't think it fits the setting. Why? Because the world I created is based on medieval Europe and only that. No it's not because I think that other cultures are not as interesting. It's because that's the only thing I was taught, my area of expertise, and I honestly don't know enough about the history of other regions to do them justice. There are other regions in this world that are 1 to 1 parallels of other places, but thus setting focuses on the one that is a 1 to 1 parallel of Europe.

[north lake]

More or less, they are technically humanoid but far more similar to elves and fey then humans and halflings

[drifting zodiac]

gnomes look like they are closer to fey than elves

[serene jolt]

I think it would confuse people more if they made gnomes count as a humanoid and an elf.

But it wouldn't be a terrible idea having them be a Fey.

[woven flint]

Gnomes specifically AREN'T elves though

[drifting zodiac]

are trolls a thing too

[jolly agate]

Aint they like, half elves?

[drifting zodiac]

what about ogres

[woven flint]

Just because something is SIMILAR to something doesn't mean they are the same, no

[eager marsh]

no? half elves are half elves

[drifting zodiac]

again like that dwarf said

[jovial shadow]

Halflings are hobbits. Complete with hairyfeet

[eager marsh]

none of us are dwarves

[jolly agate]

i am but a cow

[north lake]

Copyright-free hobbits

[drifting zodiac]

i might be one well too bad i removed my beard

[eager marsh]

proof you are no dwarf

[jolly agate]

dwarfs NEVER shave their beards

Like wizards, the longer the beard, the cooler you are

[drifting zodiac]

i never removed it completely i looked 10 years older

[serene jolt]

Including if you are a woman. Actually bonus points if you are a woman.

[jolly agate]

Yeah

Wait what

[jovial shadow]

Yeah haters got jealous of D&D's popularity and threatened lawsuits, including Chaosium for listing Cthulhu etc. in their Deities and Demigods edition.

[serene jolt]

I need to see someone play a female dwarf with a huge beard.

[eager marsh]

that's not hating. That's protecting copyrights that were used strictly without permission. Balor's were just a rip off Balrog before

[jolly agate]

Dwarven ladys have beards?

[eager marsh]

Yes they do

[drifting zodiac]

isnt
copyright free

[jolly agate]

Since bloody when?

Well dwarven beards are pretty cool anyway

[north lake]

I know, it’s pretty clear how dnd wanted to utilise hobbits as a classic fantasy creature, but had to change the name to make it legally different

[serene jolt]

In most media, yeah. I'm pretty sure dnd dwarves do too but I don't have an example for that.

[eager marsh]

since tolkien. Gimmli explains this fact. And D&D just ripped of LotR to start

[drifting zodiac]

remember that time when Legolas saw that pic of Gimli and his mother

both had beards

[serene jolt]

And most other games/shows/movies/otherwise also have that fact.

[drifting zodiac]

YES yo remember i was trying to type in this laptop

[drifting zodiac]

cough cough rings of power

[eager marsh]

rings of power is unfortunately legally just lotr media

[jovial shadow]

Fantasy movies didn't take off under Tolkien, they took off due to the popularity of D&D

[eager marsh]

irrelevant. D&D was made after the hobbit books. They quite literally were taking content from Tolkien

[woven flint]

I might one day in the future

[jovial shadow]

Does't matter who was first, just who is best

[eager marsh]

That's not how copyright works

[jovial shadow]

It's how popularity works

[eager marsh]

which has no relevance on the legal use of their content

[jovial shadow]

But is relevant to popularty of the game and in movies...

[eager marsh]

Which isnt what we were arguing

So again, irrelevant

[drifting zodiac]

if there was no egg there would be no chicken

[jovial shadow]

It's evolved

[eager marsh]

you're going off on a meaningless tangent is all

[drifting zodiac]

you cant say that in court though

[jolly agate]

Do Halfling ladys also have beards or smth?

Perhaps I've been imagining my friends' characters wrong.

[drifting zodiac]

no just hariy feet

[vagrant pagoda]

You sure about that? lmfao

[tall forge]

Tolkeins like, the originator of most dnd and general fantady ideas

[jovial shadow]

They probably didn't get the memo that D&D has officially called it 5.5.

[vagrant pagoda]

This was from a long time ago lol. I just found out today that they decided to call it 5.5e

[drifting zodiac]

i see it on the dnd beyond website

[vestal crow]

can you use 2 hand crossbows to attack twice without having the crossbow expert feat ?

[tall forge]

As people my age ish say,
Tolkein did to fantasy what hunger games/divergent did to YA books

[vagrant pagoda]

I'm only here to gloat a bit on someone who was being pedantic a while ago

[drifting zodiac]

i think reloading would be the problem

[jovial shadow]

Never saw a Hunger Games movie

[drifting zodiac]

maze runner

[tall forge]

Neither did i, i read the books

[vestal crow]

do i need to reload them both seperately

[eager marsh]

considering Tolkien was literally the medeival fantasy progenitor. that's a fairly ignorant thing they are saying

[drifting zodiac]

i never did watch anything

[halcyon bison]

Yes, because hand crossbows have the light trait. Just don’t think too hard about you reload them

[tall forge]

Clearly you did not read YA books in the 2010s

[eager marsh]

did you forget Tolkien predates World War 2?

[tall forge]

Ok… and how is that relevant to my point?

I never claimed seniority, only similarity

[eager marsh]

are you trying to call hunger games the progenitor of YA novels? that's also pretyty ignorant

[drifting zodiac]

except reloading both separately its fairly easy to shoot them both at the same time

[eager marsh]

they arent the same category at all

[drifting zodiac]

that is why crossbows are a thing

[halcyon bison]

I don't know anything about the history of fantasy and how tolkien contributed to it I just read LoTR and think "oh its like that in D&D! Cool!"

[tall forge]

Im claiming they both defined a genre of copycats

And did a large impact in the way people viewed specific genres

[drifting zodiac]

i was more of a teen wolf guy 💀

[woven flint]

As much as I love D&D
I'm actually not much of a fantasy guy lol

[drifting zodiac]

from all the recent YA novels we can clearly see the influence of Hunger Games

[tall forge]

My point exactly

[halcyon bison]

I don't like high fantasy I like low fantasy

[tall forge]

Both are major influences upon their genres

[jovial shadow]

I'm too lazy to check, but there is a Feat that appears to do something close to what you are asking.

[tall forge]

Defining specific tropes that youll see across them

[drifting zodiac]

Harry Potter and kids fantasy books, or urban fantasy hidden worls trope

AGOT and political low gritty fantasy

these arent the first to do it but you can clearly see their influence

[tall forge]

Mhm, i would simply say that hunger games and tolkein specifically had a surge of low effort copycats

Harry potter might come into that category tho

[drifting zodiac]

of course

[drifting zodiac]

it was funny as you could see the Trio in the books of the same genre

[tall forge]

My school gave quizzes to get prizes based off of how many books you read

Got to a point where i could guess the answers

Bc they all were doing the exact same thing in the genre lmao

[woven flint]

I liked the mazerunner series..
To an extent lol

[tall forge]

It had cool concepts for sure

[woven flint]

It fell off, admittedly

[tall forge]

I got real bored eventually tho

[drifting zodiac]

i read Guardians of Ga'hoole

i never finished any book series

[woven flint]

The first book was REALLY good

[tall forge]

Isnt that the bird one

They made a real weird movie about that i remember

[woven flint]

Divergent was something I liked when I was younger too, but then I kinda realized it's Hunger Game-esque slop

[drifting zodiac]

owls , owls everywhere also high fantasy bird owl purists

[tall forge]

As i grew older the more i learned to dislike it lmao

[drifting zodiac]

it gets dark adn it got a Zack Snyder movie slow montion and all

[tall forge]

I was about to say

I remember the movie

[drifting zodiac]

very sypnosis type movie

also The Expanse very good tv show (also ttrpg never played) fairly new scifi series

[tall forge]

Im trying to do a sci fi high fantasy setting for my next campaign

[drifting zodiac]

back to dnd huh idk what to say did you guys watch the movie

[tall forge]

But man. Tough to bring together i feel

[tall forge]

Havent had the chance 😔

[drifting zodiac]

i will recomend you the Foundation tv show in apple tv

[tall forge]

My current plan is to have all the sci fi stuff be hoarded by the main capital

With an evil king literally rewriting history to send the rest of the world back to medieval fantasy

[drifting zodiac]

one more reason to watch that tv show

[tall forge]

Using a beholder-nightmare fueled machine called the “Nightmare Engine”

Plot twist in the campaign being that this isnt an ancient civilization the players are finding out about

It was here 200 years ago

[drifting zodiac]

very nice

[tall forge]

Ill look into it

[fossil hollow]

I wanna kill whoever made daylight savings to confuse the ever living shit out of me when i run games

[stray atlas]

so bit of a random question

are there any spells that effectively turn someone into a living meteor?

[fossil hollow]

Turn a player? Ashardalon's Stride if you can fly

[hot gate]

True polymorphing someone into a murder comet is probably as close as you'll get

[halcyon bison]

Combine ashardalon's stride and wind walk :3

[tall forge]

When did daylight savings happen

Pls tell me it already happened

[halcyon bison]

yeah i was confused too

it started today

[tall forge]

Perfect

[fast latch]

It already happened

I got confused because it was very light out for 11:00 AM, which is when I run WD:DH

[fossil hollow]

My players are calling me crazy for not understanding the eldritch copndition that is dealing with Daylight savings, im losing my WIS saves

I swear its just Ouroboros messing with time, him and Chronos dont want me to have fun, thats what i get for sending them to Carceri

[hidden trellis]

Is there any way to get a custom background to where I can get a feat like Magic Initiate (Cleric) but also be able to get a +2 Int and +1 Dex?

[fossil hollow]

Ask your DM

Custom Backgrounds are something you talk to your DM about, per 2024 DMG

[hidden trellis]

Ah didn’t know if there way a way in base DnD

[fossil hollow]

there is, its just not player facing anymore

[woven flint]

Wel, Folks
We're fighting a God in 20 minutes in one of the games I'm in
Wish me luck

[halcyon bison]

Don't die!
Or do if it means you'll be ressurected as a demon cow

[woven flint]

If my Wizard survives
He's retiring and raising his daughter

[fossil hollow]

nah, even worse if he dies

[drifting zodiac]

What god

[woven flint]

Oroboros, a homebrew Deity

[drifting zodiac]

oh a giant murderous infinity snake

[halcyon bison]

sounds like a wholesome ending -w-

[fast latch]

The BBEG? Good luck! Roll some 20s!

[woven flint]

Giant murderous infinity dragon, actually

[woven flint]

Not the BBEG, We have more fights ahead of us
But I'm gonna retire my Wizard if he survives

[fossil hollow]

funny how Ouroboros isnt the BBEG

[worn lagoon]

hi gang

[woven flint]

He's got much more to lose currently than most of the party it seems, so he has a more valid reason to retire

[worn lagoon]

today i dealt a bit of necrotic and acid damage to echo
next week?
the same

[fast latch]

Hi

[halcyon bison]

i belive in him
surely nothing terrible will happen

[drifting zodiac]

Maybe the BBEG is Jörmungandr

[woven flint]

No, the BBEG isn't that, we know for certain

[halcyon bison]

what if its just a little snake :3

[woven flint]

There's no man behind the slaughter, sadly

[fossil hollow]

Boros

[woven flint]

Bors

[halcyon bison]

Boris the Oroboros

[drifting zodiac]

Boris Oro

[fast latch]

Snakes are awesome

Yuan-Ti even more so

[halcyon bison]

hiss :>

[drifting zodiac]

Yamata no Orochi

[fast latch]

I have a Yuan-Ti NPC named Vassinal Essn’kn that’s one of my favorites, he’s a snake headed Malison who took the Pointy Hat homebrew Circle of The City Druid subclass

[thick lotus]

Would I be executed if I use a modified version of faerun if I can’t exactly think of a custom map and or can’t draw it out

[fossil hollow]

why would you

[fast latch]

No that’s fine

[thick lotus]

Idk if players had a standard to where they don’t play faerun because I’m trying to start up a campaign as a forever player

As a dm who previously was a forever player

[fossil hollow]

i play several homebrew campaigns, and two in FR. (last one is in Dragonlance)

[thick lotus]

Would it fall under home brew if it was a modified version of faerun

[severe rampart]

I took the most damage and I have the second least HP

[fossil hollow]

FR + Homebrew

[green hollow]

I’m running my first horror based campaign and I was wondering there’s really tips for that style of game play

[fossil hollow]

Check out Ravenloft

[harsh hinge]

Player buy-in is key. For a more extensive breakdown, check Pointy Hat's video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7JObWTDGXc

[still plover]

What you do is you say Faerun is our starting point, but this story is our own and some details of the world may vary.

[empty thicket]

Make understand the players that fighting is most likely dangerous and they need to be smart to overcome the monsters

and take decisions fast and smartly

can even give some of them guns and make them attack the monsters showing that not even bullets work towards them

[swift wren]

DnD is mostly a power-fantasy, and horror translates best when the characters feel relatable. The threat should be, in general, so inherently strong and brutal that they instantly know they will die in a fight - or make it a rule. Fight the monster, die.

Horror as a setting is smth different, and mostly relies on over-describing and the general monstrous-ness of opponents imho

[green hollow]

Thanks guys

[proper forum]

I love yuan tis

Very powerful race abd very underrated too

[green hollow]

I’m trying to do it because I’m really big horror fan and I want to run something like silent hill

[proper forum]

Remember when they resisted literally every type of magic? Of course they had to fix that cause that was broken.

[severe rampart]

Oh my god I could've used a Yuan Ti for my Snake Patron Warlock

[inner silo]

Are those evil snake people?

[proper forum]

Yes

[inner silo]

Sound pretty cool

Though them being evil isn't idea ig

[proper forum]

I once made a glam metal themed yuan ti bard and never used him only because I don't think I can do him justice in roleplay.

[proper forum]

You don't have to be evil. Most yuan ti's are evil, but not all. No race can force you to be good or evil.

Your character can be whatever you want personality wise

[swift wren]

Okay, then maybe 5e isn't the solution here :,D There are much more fitting games, but there are some things I used for a Silent Hill game a bit prior - lean into the regret, guilt and fears of characters. Core and center of the game.

[green hollow]

Oh okay I’ll look into other games

[empty thicket]

Pro tip, dont show the monster to the party or if you do it, do it to 1 alone

[swift wren]

The need to connect a monster with the psychological self is really efficient is done by the player itself. Let them describe what kind of horror they are meeting and how its connected with their regret, fear or guilt.

[empty thicket]

set paranoia in that person and the rest of the party, let their minds do the work of imagine the monster

[worn lagoon]

today was the first session of the reset of my campaign, the gang's hiding indoors from a locust swarm outside

[proper forum]

How does one reset a campaign

[swift wren]

turn it off and on again

[halcyon bison]

I would guess just start with new characters in the same world as the old campaign

[empty thicket]

time skips, reincarnate the whole party, do like one piece and send each to a location for their own arcs and improvments, etc. etc.

TPK them and reset with them doing a Reverse divine comedy and getting out of hell

[drifting zodiac]

I can officially confirm, the most annoying feeling is having something stuck on a tooth

Sambody Archipelago Campaign

[drifting zodiac]

I think you can be just like retire everyone and start another group who might or not come across the old characters

Like cameos

I think CR did that

[sly crest]

I have heard that something absolutely bonkers awful has happened that has been the last straw for many. What is it?

[empty thicket]

indeed, a new group, the offspring of the old group, etc. etc.

[drifting zodiac]

Idk you tell us

[empty thicket]

Fortunately options are many and creativity is big too

[sly crest]

something about not actually owning your own DnD stuff and subscriptions

[fossil hollow]

thats far too vague

[fossil hollow]

thats.... thats been a thing in DDB for a while, thats nothing new

[drifting zodiac]

Yea offsprings idea caught up to me but also if you want to restrict to the same race as your previously characters

[severe rampart]

Honestly, is it just me that hates when someone says that if you own the physical book you can import it into DnD beyond? It'd be nice if you could do that but the homebrew system in DnD beyond is very unintuitive and overly complicated, you're much better off using a PDF instead

[empty thicket]

a looooong offspring tree can be possible too

like, the principal party is generation 1, the next party could be generation 6 and then you canbe more open to let them be other races or more

and reincarnate exist too so, there is many options

[empty thicket]

The books could have a QR code or some special code that would let you get them in DnD beyond, idk if they did that or smt

[drifting zodiac]

Oh true but at that point just make another character is more fun than just having a character with a drop of their blood

[severe rampart]

Not the case for most

[sly crest]

It looks like they're not printing paper books anymore

[severe rampart]

That's why paper and PDFs are better to use, imo

[drifting zodiac]

But what would be fun imo now that I think about it , so imagine the entire party is descendants of the last party , some 5-6 generations ago except this one guy who is actually the kid of the past character 😭

[empty thicket]

can make it easier for scenarios like "you are the offspring of a past hero, the world need a hero back and you are the closest we could get", the call of adventure being an inherited destiny.
something like happened to one of the protagonist of Castlevania Nocturna, the belmonts

[drifting zodiac]

BELMONTS

[empty thicket]

yeah, the habit . Thanks tho

[drifting zodiac]

wait what I was just excited 😆

[empty thicket]

if there is one of those races that age slowly like elfs it could be used like a character for the story//npc

[worn lagoon]

different party except for one member

the previous players were... something...

[drifting zodiac]

Yea

[sly crest]

But they should at least be putting out books! Physical media is important!

[jolly agate]

Beans

[severe rampart]

Two members

[worn lagoon]

tarkus got promoted from co-dm to fulltime player tbf

[severe rampart]

If they could make it accessible, sure, here it's so hard to come by that it's being resold at like 5x the price

[sly crest]

...they could just print more books

[severe rampart]

Would that make profit is the thing

[drifting zodiac]

Nope not much profit company to fast popping out digital pdfs

[severe rampart]

After three months!

[sly crest]

So it goes.

[fossil hollow]

what?

[empty thicket]

I would like to do in concept a party that thier past ancestors were from a group that hunt evil creatures and the world need them back.

[sly crest]

or at least that is a future direction they're going in. Something about AI too.

[severe rampart]

God damn it

[fossil hollow]

i need some proof about never printing books, because thats literally their main source of income

[sly crest]

isn't it the prescriptions?

[fossil hollow]

... what?

[sly crest]

subscriptions

[fossil hollow]

... did you read what the subscriptions give you

[sly crest]

the idea is apparently that buying is no longer having

[knotty vine]

Someone gave me an idea and now I wanna do it

[still plover]

Welcome to the 21st century! Terms and conditions may apply.

[knotty vine]

That’s wild

Should I make a barbarian rouge..

[drifting zodiac]

YES

[sharp belfry]

VERY soid build

Like, going any amount of levels in both honestly works to the benifit of both

Nobody builds STR rouges, kinda like how nobody really builds DEX barbs/paladins

[empty thicket]

If stealth fail, try Stealtimidation

[fossil hollow]

nobody on Dexadins is a wild claim

I must be Odysseus then

[empty thicket]

Flex your muscles so hard that the guards understand, if they say something no one will arrive home alive or be any body for the grave.

[woven flint]

I've built a Dexadin before lol

[sly crest]

Doesn't mean I have to like it or that it's an objective good.

[halcyon bison]

Did you defeat the big snake

[woven flint]

We're literally still in session atm

[empty thicket]

Nintendo?

[sharp belfry]

Na. Im not saying nobody plays them, just the people who play them are Nobodys

[drifting zodiac]

So kinda like the bloodlines of the them

[halcyon bison]

oh
go back to killing god 3:<

[sly crest]

Don't get me wrong, I want to play DnD, but I think getting 5e used might be the better option

[woven flint]

Thats indeed a take lol

[fossil hollow]

Once again, I must be Odysseus then

[sly crest]

even if the new dragon designs look awesome

[fossil hollow]

Dude, you might want to actually research what youre saying

Thats only if you get it off DnDBeyond. Theyre very much still printing books

-# in fact, they announced a new Ravenloft book soon

[sharp belfry]

Shit, really?

Damn. I gatta find a DM to torment me

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[sharp belfry]

My last dungeon master said they dont like dnd

[lavish flame]

New Ravenloft book, and a Big Book of Magic were just announced

[fossil hollow]

potential Dark Sun down the line

[sharp belfry]

Dark sun?!

[lavish flame]

yeah they did an Apocalypse subclass UA that had stuff like "Sorcerer-King Warlock" and "Gladiator Fighter"

[drifting zodiac]

Broke my tooth 😭
Wait your DM said he didn't like DnD ... What does that mean?

[swift wren]

lots of games outside of dnd

[lavish flame]

he'd likely prefer to play some other game

[drifting zodiac]

I mean I know

[lavish flame]

sorta like saying "I don't like Call of Duty" there's a million games one might love that aren't Call of Duty

[swift wren]

like super mario 64, its like cod but if its pve, more about movement, without gacha and 10% more italian plumbers

[drifting zodiac]

WoD is the next ttrpg I want play and learn after DnD

[crimson gulch]

dnd are the only ttrpp books that actualy stale valuable and in demand, could be a wait

[swift wren]

Absolutely not, as a collector I can tell you that is wrong :,D

[drifting zodiac]

I want to buy the 2024 player's handbook starter set but idk if I should buy it before even playing once

[swift wren]

Play then buy if youa re able to tbh

[sly crest]

from the looks of it, I haven't been able to corroborate one Dungeons and Discourse's claim.

[crimson gulch]

oh, shes got no truth

[sly crest]

All I found was a picture of Ganon battling Quan Chi and his twin

[lavish flame]

The game is free, the Basic Rules are free, you don't have to fork over cash yet

[lavish flame]

yeah thats just a clickbaiter masquerading as news. She's a sensationalist

[sly crest]

IIRC you only get one subclass in the basic rules

[halcyon bison]

Yeah, you don’t get many character options but it is possible to play for free!

[lavish flame]

She's selling you an angry worldview and pessimism

[halcyon bison]

I just hope you like the subclass you get

[sly crest]

the "discourse" shoulda cued me in

[drifting zodiac]

All I see from her thumbnails is just It's Over, it's all Over , Over and over idk 😐

[woven flint]

FRIENDS..

My Spirit Dragon daughter showed up to help us fight Oroboros...
But she's grown now?
I guess spending time with Diancastra made her grow up fast

I dunno if it's temporary or permanent yet though

[halcyon bison]

Hopefully this is a good thing?

[jolly agate]

Your what?

[knotty vine]

Sneak attack with a rapier

[woven flint]

Daughter.
My Wizards daughter is a Dragon (not biological, deck of many things stuff)

[drifting zodiac]

Sneak attack with a great axe

[knotty vine]

Sneak attack has to be with either a ranged weapon or a weapon with the finesse prop I think

[wispy salmon]

Sounds like maybe time travel shenanigans with future 'daughter' coming back to help (Oroboros being an organisation in my fav MMO City of Heroes which is all timey wimey)

[jolly agate]

Ooooooooooohhhhh

[cursive ledge]

do followers of gods in dnd typically try to recruit others to follow?

[fast latch]

Yeah probably

[jolly agate]

I did

Recruiting people to follow Baphomet in Waterdeep

[cursive ledge]

what’d happen if you met someone who didn’t want to be a devotee or were already devoted to someone else?

[jolly agate]

Who wouldn't listen to a magic cow?

You kill them in the name of your god

[cursive ledge]

what the heck

is there a lore guide for followers of specific gods in dnd anywhere?

[jolly agate]

That's what a Priest does right?, or are the Priests of Baphomet different?

[loud tendon]

is what what a priest does?

[jolly agate]

You just check the wiki of the god and you see what they would usually do

[cursive ledge]

I feel like it’d depend on the god

[jolly agate]

ye, mostly

[cursive ledge]

wait do the wikis tell what the followers do too?

[jolly agate]

Sometimes

[jolly agate]

what?

[severe rampart]

What do you think a priest does?

[severe rampart]

I believe those are cultists.

[jolly agate]

same thing

[severe rampart]

not really

[fossil hollow]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Baphomet#Worshipers

[jolly agate]

Recruit people, kill people, pray to their god. Those things, right?

[severe rampart]

a priest is like, a higher level of devotion, anyone can be a cultist, but not everyone can be a priest

[fossil hollow]

Priest is a specific title

[oak grotto]

Hey uhhh what the heck is this age verification nonsense that I am seeing on DnD Beyond? Are y'all doing the same nonsense Discord is doing? The website isn't forcing me to do this but they're making it sound like it is mandatory?

[jolly agate]

Ye I'm still pretty new at dis alr?

[severe rampart]

Priests dont recruit people, they preach, yes, but they aren't actively seeking new members, and cultists are more forceful in their recruitment methods

[fossil hollow]

K-ID thing?

[oak grotto]

Yeah.

[fossil hollow]

thats been there for a while, but its somewhat needed

[severe rampart]

If I remember, the American term is missionaries? They are typically the ones recruiting

[jolly agate]

and what's the british term?

[oak grotto]

Am I gonna have to upload a picture of my face or something? I'm gonna be pretty damn upset if that's the case.

[fossil hollow]

no

Just birthday and place of birth iirc

[severe rampart]

I do not know

[loud tendon]

LT made a post about it a while back.. you can see it in the link to the FAQ #dnd-announcements message

[severe rampart]

And for cults it's usually more personal for their recruitment, often being very manipulative.

[oak grotto]

Good to know I can at least play DnD with a semi relaxed conscious.

[fast latch]

Oh that’s siiiiick

[jolly agate]

And what if it wasn't a stranger but a cow?

[fossil hollow]

ask your DM

[jolly agate]

No but i mean. Would you listen to a cow?

[halcyon bison]

I would listen to a cow. They have very wise things to say
Like “moo” and “mooo”

[drifting zodiac]

Otis

[halcyon bison]

Holy cow that’s a bovine pun

[drifting zodiac]

join the Cattle Cult

[idle oar]

Udderly rediculous

[drifting zodiac]

moothing that mudders

[still plover]

I dunno, sounds like something to ruminate on.

[fossil hollow]

Yooooouuuuth

[drifting zodiac]

this gives me an idea

[fossil hollow]

... that was a bad one

[drifting zodiac]

a sheep character

Baa-aamick Wooltuff

[halcyon bison]

I like this idea a mutTON

[jolly agate]

approved

Oh wait it might work

We have this sheep dudes, Caoraa

Idk where to get the other half of the sheep tho

[drifting zodiac]

are you guys just playing Backyard Farm campaign?

[drifting zodiac]

idk enough english to think of udder puns

[jolly agate]

oh nah, I'm just saying what happens to my character. a LOT has happened with the others.

And i mean A LOT

[drifting zodiac]

Animal Farm DnD edition

[jolly agate]

Oh wait i can't send all the stuff that happend here

[drifting zodiac]

how many sessions have you played with this amazing character

[jolly agate]

Would be flood and stuff

[jolly agate]

I think that makes 8 with this last one?

I'm pretty happy ngl, Best char ever

but now i have to learn how to preach the word of our glorious horned king Baphomet

[undone rain]

Gonna be playin a swashbuckler rogue next campaign. Cant wait

[tall forge]

Ever think about how intimidating monks are

Just how much aura they got

The amount of pure presence

Of a guy with no armor, no weapons

Just hands

[hot marlin]

... The monk I played the most was loaded with weapons.

[tall forge]

Well your guy isnt as cool as my guy :(

[hot marlin]

I had poison darts everywhere, a sword, a staff, a whip, a bow...

[fossil hollow]

im guessing not even a kensei

[drifting zodiac]

Character idea a Tortle monk with two katana

[echo meteor]

for all the rizz people have about flight… if you get shot out of the sky, isn’t it immediate death when you fall and take fall damage?

[fossil hollow]

nope

depends on your height at fall and your hp. Max damage is 20d6 at 120 ft

[jolly agate]

Alr check ur dms

[echo meteor]

you go unconscious, start rolling death saves then take damage when u hit the floor

does the damage for instant death get reset for each instance

[fossil hollow]

nope

again, its 1d6 for each 10 feet you fall

[echo meteor]

?

[halcyon bison]

You have to take enough damage to go unconscious for that
Which is rare, especially at a decent level

You can usually land if your hp is going low

[fossil hollow]

you dont instantly go unsoncious when you fall...

[echo meteor]

when u get to 0hp … while in flight, you fall while unconscious

[drifting zodiac]

Flying pickle is afraid of flying

[tulip widget]

I’m a warlock human with every Eldritch invocation as an origin feat and chose tough on everything, my only meaning is tanking

[fossil hollow]

ok, thats a different scenario from your intitial one, but its only instant death if you take more than you max hp. Otherwise, 1 failed death save

[echo meteor]

that WAS my initial scenario

[halcyon bison]

Yes, if you go to 0 hp while flying you will fail a death save due to fall damage
You won’t immediately die though

[drifting zodiac]

It doesn't seem the same

[echo meteor]

we have different words for “shot out of the sky” i guess

[halcyon bison]

But flying is still good because hitting 0 hp is rare and healing options are common

[drifting zodiac]

Shot in the sky
Not
Shot out of the sky

Or shot while in the sky

[echo meteor]

but does the damage needed to instant kill reset with each instance?

[fossil hollow]

yes

[echo meteor]

if your life is 100, then you take 50 damage twice

[uncut zenith]

You will only instantly die if the fall damage you take is more than your HP max

[fossil hollow]

has to be 100 or more

[echo meteor]

sounds a bit difficult to do at high level

[obtuse stratus]

Hey do any adventures let you get golem manuals or the amulets for shield guardians?

[final turtle]

Shot out of the sky usually refers to something getting blown up and out of the sky

[fossil hollow]

thats what power word kill is for

[drifting zodiac]

Idk English isn't my first language i read shot out of the sky I was like so it means
Someone was in the sky and then shot from this particular sky to not sky the ground maybe?

[halcyon bison]

Why are you flying high enough to take that much fall damage??

[uncut zenith]

If you have 100HP max and you’re falling, you need to take more than 100 fall damage to die instantly. If you take less than 100, you fail a death save instead for taking damage while unconscious.

[echo meteor]

ppl tend to fly high above all the time 🤣

[lavish flame]

You got 100 health, and get knocked to 0 while way up in the air, you might die on impact but its not guranteed. The damage done from falling at terminal velocity is only 20d6. This sounds like a lot, but you're basically just gonna roll 60 hp of damage cuz of math.

[drifting zodiac]

Confused tbh

[lavish flame]

You need to take [Current HP + HP Maximum] damage to die outright from getting hurt, so falling isn't likely to kill higher level PCs

[halcyon bison]

Feels like an Icarus moment in that case
Just fly lower! You usually don’t need to be more than 20 feet high

[lavish flame]

Early levels make falling scary though. I had a PC die from falling 30 feet intentionally

[woven flint]

You'd be surprised

[drifting zodiac]

We truly went from cow talk to Icarus 😂

[uncut zenith]

One of the many reasons flight isn’t as broken as people pretend it is

[echo meteor]

yaa, a wizard taking fly also preparing featherfall is crazy

[uncut zenith]

If you fly too high and go unconscious, you’re gonna get hurt

[fossil hollow]

Fly, when it ends, sends you down gently iirc

[vale seal]

Does anyone know hor reliable dungeons and discourse is? I've seen two videos from them and it seems like they're just causing a stir and I feel like they're untrustworthy

[echo meteor]

it doesn’t

[cobalt fjord]

does anyone know what would be a good drop from a giant crab?

[uncut zenith]

Nope

[echo meteor]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2618909-fly?srsltid=AfmBOorSHhwgw7dSNnIl3Pa1A0EFkJ5zyYIX-O8nQyGvMbcLe5usJsp9

[uncut zenith]

Per 2024 Fly at least:

When the spell ends, the target falls if it is still aloft unless it can stop the fall.

[drifting zodiac]

I have never watched them but the general feels are click baity and negative af also people seems to be making videos about them (in a bad way) so I wouldn't count on them much)

[fossil hollow]

oh huh, must be thinking of levitate or something

[drifting zodiac]

Pieces of shell to make armour

[uncut zenith]

Maybe Feather Fall, which is explicitly designed to prevent fall damage

[cobalt fjord]

that sounds cool ty

[halcyon bison]

Flying is still pretty nice
Just be careful and you’ll be fine

[lavish flame]

maybe one of their shell plates can be used like a shield

[drifting zodiac]

But what if you fall in the water?

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, it’s great, it’s just not broken like a lot of people say it is

[cobalt fjord]

tru

[jolly agate]

Damn it's SO HARD to find a pbp game to join

[halcyon bison]

That counts as being careful

[uncut zenith]

I’d say it still deals damage. Falling into water hurts if you’re not an expert diver

[drifting zodiac]

What kinda of Crab is it and can you just make up an item?

[woven flint]

You'd probably still take damage since hitting water from way high up is like hitting concrete

[cobalt fjord]

its for a level 1 party

[halcyon bison]

As we all know from Minecraft any amount of water is enough to entirely protect from a fall
This will definitely work

[woven flint]

Totally

[drifting zodiac]

Full or just half although if it is high enough it's the same as solid ground (I would say roll a d20 to see how good your diving stance is regardless of survival)

[uncut zenith]

Full

Fall damage doesn’t take into account the consistency of what you’re falling onto/into

[drifting zodiac]

Just a shell part nothing complicated

[fossil hollow]

Tasha has rules oin diving into water iirc

[cobalt fjord]

kk ty

[tiny grove]

BRENNAN LEE MULLIGAN IS ON TED SEASON 2?????
How much did Family Guy make Seth 😭

[uncut zenith]

XGTE has expanded rules for falling, but nothing to do with falling into water

[fossil hollow]

i remember something abouit falling into water explicitly, im confident it was tasha

[tiny grove]

I would rule it as falling into water up to a certain amount of feet deals no damage, but afterwards deals the same damage as regular falling

[drifting zodiac]

Archimedes himself

[pallid oracle]

so apparently in baldurs gate 3 after patch 8 the top 3 characters changed where

1. wyll -> hexblade warlock
2. astarian-> hexblade warlock
3. shadowheart -> equally life domain and death domain

[tiny grove]

You can seriously hurt yourself jumping 30 feet off a diving board, so I'd say the damage counting starts there. Where regular falling would deel 5d6 damage at 50 feet, water would deal 2d6 instead. Or maybe water deals 5d6 at 50 feet too, but none at 30? Something like that

[uncut zenith]

You’re right. It’s one of the natural hazards. You can roll a DC15 Athletics or Acrobatics check to take half damage when falling into water. That said, if you’re unconscious, you can’t roll a check so you’re taking full damage either way

[fossil hollow]

yaaay

[woven flint]

I love being a bladesinger wizard, having bladesong down, and nowhere near enough to the threat to where activating bladesong would be useful without losing action economy and still being able to do damage (finally got in cantrip range, at least, ig) 🫠

[fossil hollow]

you can still strike at his body

[woven flint]

Life's hard for a little fella like me

I've also been bloodied the entire combat 💀

[drifting zodiac]

I seem to understand now, when my math teacher said i would need to study well

[jolly agate]

Beans

[tiny grove]

Don't flame me but part of why I love dnd is because of math
I loved math at school, so now that I don't have it as a subject in uni I use dnd for my math juices

[tiny grove]

Puny wizard...
Whenever we meet with the wizard in my party I say his HP instead of his name

[uncut zenith]

I don’t think anybody’s gonna flame you for liking math in a math-based game

[shut vessel]

hello everyone i was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to a good dm im currently in campaigns with friends but am debating on dm a campaign in the future

[drifting zodiac]

I- I used to but then I went to ride bikes during the 9th grade (I didn't had one so I had to sit behind someone) after that from ace student to idk barely passed 4 years later in last year of high school 😂

[fossil hollow]

i will flame you if youre getting big numbers or too low numbers

[woven flint]

He's not puny
He's probably the strongest person in the party combat-wise lol

[tiny grove]

What a bike does to a person

[tiny grove]

You can be strong and puny

[drifting zodiac]

During the battle are you like hey 10 Hp sorry 6 Hp wait 4 Hp

[meager fractal]

should death saving throws be secretly made by the DM?

[uncut zenith]

Only if that’s what the table agrees to

[drifting zodiac]

I was young and reckless 😭

[woven flint]

He's average height
Actually probably taller than majority of Harengon :p

He's also typically the first person to charge into melee 😎

[tiny grove]

That depends. However you want, really. I make my players roll so I only us two can see. Imo, players should roll dice instead of dm whenever they can, it's fun that way
And you can blame their luck instead of yours!

[woven flint]

Nothing puny about a fella who isn't scared to die >:p

[drifting zodiac]

I think hiding rolls is a kinda a bad tactic maybe not at the start but later

[uncut zenith]

The game assumes players are rolling their own death saves, so if the DM wants to try something different, that’s a session 0 topic for everybody at the table to agree to.

[tiny grove]

Yep
I'd say if you can, make it so only you and the player rolling know the death saving throw result
Otherwise just let 'em roll

[woven flint]

We beat Oroboros!!!!
YEAAAHHH

[uncut zenith]

Either way, anything that’s different from what the written rules state should be discussed and agreed upon as a group

[woven flint]

We killed a God today 😎

[halcyon bison]

Good job :DDDD
I knew you could do it

[craggy summit]

that's gotta build up bad karma

[uncut zenith]

My current group for example has the player roll their own death saves and “whisper” it to the DM. That way the player and the DM know and everybody else is left in suspense to strategize re: what to do with things like healing. But that’s something we agreed upon as a group

[meager fractal]

Same, oddly. Our 4e party got tired of Vlaakith

[fast topaz]

Depends on which God you killed

[woven flint]

My Wizard almost died 4 times

But now it doesn't matter he can retire...
He also got a new dragon egg

[drifting zodiac]

New daughter??

[halcyon bison]

Two dragon children :D

[tiny grove]

Hey why'd you steal my name

[halcyon bison]

It’s going to be real awkward when you have to explain to them that they’re adopted

[drifting zodiac]

For every nick I would had a nickel

[craggy summit]

my full government name is actually Nicklaus so technically i didn't steal it dw fellow nick 🤙

[drifting zodiac]

Hohoho

[tiny grove]

Oh well then it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance nickfella

[drifting zodiac]

Santa

[craggy summit]

dap me up fellow nick

[tiny grove]

I'm sure after about the 5th elemental breath they'll figure it out, dragons are smart

[drifting zodiac]

It's cool and all till you find out your name means just the number in another language (the original language of your name to be precise)

[woven flint]

It's Oroboros Reincarnated..

However, when he's Reborn, he loses all of his memories
Perhaps my Wizard can raise him with love and maybe bring in a new Deity of light

[halcyon bison]

That would be nice

[woven flint]

We just need to get out of Caceri now

[meager fractal]

Apparently Vlaakith isn't even a god, just close.

[woven flint]

Nope, she pretends to be one to the Githyanki people, though

[atomic moat]

Her people hate her too much to worship her as a god

[fossil siren]

So when are they adding more eldritch invocations to 2024 edition?

[glad arch]

The 30 we have rn arent enough?

[rough basalt]

Never.

[marsh surge]

anyone else notice that in the "editions" section of the webpage they completely omit the holmes, moldvay/cook/marsh and mentzer basic sets? honestly kind of a big miss there.

[glad arch]

Even better, 50+ i was low balling here apparently

[rough basalt]

More invocations would just be a bunch of blubber too at a certain point

[atomic moat]

Xanathar's ones work fine despite being 2014 edition.

[hushed adder]

Hey, I'm thinking of getting the dndb hero tier and am wondering if it's worth it

[fossil siren]

not compared to the ones we had

[halcyon bison]

They’re fine yeah but I would still like them to be updated

[rough basalt]

Why do you want it?

[hushed adder]

Mainly for the unlimited characters

[lavish flame]

god no

[fossil siren]

also where? Im guessing extra books?

[glad arch]

Yes

[rough basalt]

I mean if you like making PCs sure.

[glad arch]

Tasha and xanathar should still be fine in a 2024 game

[rough basalt]

Tasha works pretty seamlessly. Xanathars has some stuff that have some issues

Mainly Shepard Druid.

[atomic moat]

I don't think they quite bridged the gulf that made using cantrips other than eldritch blast worth it, although its a nice thought that you can buff other cantrips now.

[rough basalt]

It was mainly due to fan demand I think

Not with the intention of other cantrips being on par with EB

[atomic moat]

what's the deal with Sheaprd druid? I haven't really look at that one.

[rough basalt]

It relies on how old summon spells worked for most of its features