dnd-discussion

[rough basalt]

I should read or something

[tall forge]

I did all my reading in school, any more and ill turn into a book /j

[stoic haven]

Read Magicians by Lev Grossman, or some dnd esque fantasy

[rough basalt]

I have several drizzt novels to go through

Also the Dragonlance trilogy.

[normal canyon]

You should read some picture books.

[tall forge]

Never really liked picture books, liked imagining it all myself

[normal canyon]

It passes like 1 minute irl by the time u finish it

[tall forge]

Depends on the book

[normal canyon]

The 2 year old picture books

[tall forge]

I know plenty of 3rd party aids that take at least 30 minutes :)

[normal canyon]

I like reading them.

Am I allowed to loot a dead PCs body?

[halcyon forum]

ask the player

[undone rain]

I would play an aarakockra but them fellas cant fly with heavy or medium armor so im just goin kenku

[normal canyon]

Get sum unarmored defense

Become one with the monk

[undone rain]

Im a war domain cleric i dont think so

[normal canyon]

Get an item that increases your AC by 4

[tall forge]

Up to the player, but without any talking? Id say no

[normal canyon]

I am the player

[tall forge]

The dead one?

[normal canyon]

No

[stuck shuttle]

That’s usually up to the DM, especially for a magical armor or shield that gives an effective +4

[tall forge]

Because looting your own dead body is pretty tough

[buoyant oar]

Huh it's now officially 5.5e

[stuck shuttle]

I feel it was pretty clear we were talking about asking the person playing the dead PC 😭

[buoyant oar]

https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/46714579089428-Did-Wizards-previously-say-the-2024-rules-wouldn-t-be-called-5-5e

[halcyon forum]

talk with the player of the dead PC. They should decide what should happen with their PCs stuff and body

[normal canyon]

What if the guy left the group forever and I can’t talk to him

[tall forge]

Talk to the group then

[halcyon forum]

then talk to the rest of the group how to handle the situation

[tall forge]

Personally I’d drop it

But if you’re adamant, that’s the best option

[normal canyon]

Ok

[lavish flame]

woah this is crazy

[jovial shadow]

So D&D 5.5e is now official

[stoic haven]

What is?

Oh is it officially 5.5e

[undone rain]

Well glad to see some updates ig

[buoyant oar]

At least for Beyond. For now.

But I doubt they will admit to confusing name schemes and yet still commit to it outside of their own personal digital space.

[stoic haven]

Oh god, this is going to cause newfound frustrations at one of my tables

[buoyant oar]

Once roll20, foundry, and more start calling it 5.5e print will soon follow.

[stoic haven]

Who were adamant on not playing 5.5e until I told them it wasn't 5.5e, so half reluctantly agreed, and now one of them, who's been a problem player the whole time, will get back to arguing about this again

[tall forge]

Wild hill to die on

[glass granite]

Oh wizards is calling it 5.5e now?

[stoic haven]

I know TvT

[tall forge]

Id just…. Not mention it lmao

[stoic haven]

Like, let me play a better monk that doesnt need so much Ki

[lavish flame]

DDB is

[buoyant oar]

I have found the least headaches by simply not allow rules mixing.

If it's a 5.5 game. It's 5.5 only.

[stoic haven]

No, I won't, but he is always on about D&D research, so its a matter of days now

[tall forge]

I mean, i dont really see a problem with using 5e in 5.5e

[buoyant oar]

And while it's just DDB it would be a wild move for WotC to commit to the 2024 bit

[tall forge]

Most 5e stuffs generally weaker so… its whatever

[stoic haven]

I was playing a Kensei 2024 monk

[buoyant oar]

It's not that there is issues on my end. But stuff can be hella confusing for players.

But I have just found it easier to treat it as a full new edition. Even though it is not. Mainly because it's also an excuse to slash the number of allowed sources without bellyaching.

[lavish flame]

yeah, given its 2026 now. 2024 was a name that was not long for the world

[tall forge]

It was also released at like, the tail dnd of 2024

[buoyant oar]

The 2024 Monster Manual that came out...

Checks notes

Not 2024

[lavish flame]

yeah the MM was Feb 2025

[rough basalt]

I spent too much money on stuff so I just use the "intended" mixing.

Which is, if it's not reprinted you use the old.

[buoyant oar]

I am sad my name for the new rules wasn't chosen.

[rough basalt]

I think it should've been called 5e: Definitive Edition

[buoyant oar]

Super Ultra Dungeon and Dragons 5th Edition Remix Hyper EX Plus Alpha

[rough basalt]

Damn, that does sound like the right name for this system

[tall forge]

Dragons and dungeons

Final mix

(2)

[buoyant oar]

I remember when they first announced it and they said that they were moving beyond editions.

And I was like. Why does every company try this.

Microsoft tried it with Windows 10, Xbox tried it with the Xbox One,
Apple tried it with Mac OS. X

[tall forge]

According to quack psychology, makes it seem “new and fresh”

[rough basalt]

My theory is the new team felt like 5.5e was more apt but the oldheads before they got removed were adamant about it not being such.

[glacial gust]

Do any of y'all play magic the gathering?

[blissful ibex]

yes

[glacial gust]

Great game

[inner silo]

i feel like the ancestrial weapon rules work especially well with a hexblade warlock

[buoyant oar]

My theory is marketing. D&D 5e had probably the largest new player base in existence and considering that it really only got popular in its big state after 2020.

There was a lot of fear of people just abandoning the system, that they had spent a lot of money on suddenly being updated for them only 4 years later.

[rough basalt]

And the update probably was already being drawn up

Considering Tashas started the 2024 design foundation

[buoyant oar]

Well they announced the update back in late 21. Early 22

[rough basalt]

The foundation of "players wanna be equally powerful and don't want garbage options? Splendid."

[buoyant oar]

But if you're a new D&D player who started during covid. You spent $300 on books and then you learned that the system's getting changed. If I was the developer of that system, I would stress to every Heaven that it's not different

Because the vast majority of people who now play the game who started with 5e went through an edotiy change before.

[rough basalt]

Tho on another hand, it doesn't really feel like a new enough system to be called 6e

It feels like what 5e was meant to be.

[buoyant oar]

Lathander help us when they actually make 6e. Lot of people are going to be real upset

[rough basalt]

I kinda see the 2014 era as like an early access period

[inner silo]

is this like what happened with 3e and 3.5e?

[buoyant oar]

A 10-year Early Access. Is a bit much. I only hope this section doesn't last 10 years. 20 years are the same game designs too much imo

[rough basalt]

Up until Tashas at least

XGE was when they started gearing towards the current design philosophy and Tashas when they made the foundation

Then the new corebooks were putting them on the new foundation after they tested a lot of things

[buoyant oar]

The change in design from 3e to v3.5 is much wider than the change in 5e to 5.5e.

[inner silo]

oki

[rough basalt]

If it were a video game, you could've called up to Tashas Early Access
Tashas to 2024 1.x
Then 2024 2.x

[buoyant oar]

The 5.5e refresh is much more akin to the 1995 Revision to AD&D 2e

They even had a page in the front from TSR stressing it was not 3e in those books.

[inner silo]

dam

[rough basalt]

Reason I believe 2024 to be what 5e was meant to be was the embracing of some of 4th edition

2014 wanted to be so far away from 4e

[buoyant oar]

Early 5e was a bit of an over-reaction to 4e. Which is sad because most of this things wrong with 4e was its storytelling sucked so bad. The game was fun.

[swift wren]

4e was so ahead of its time; now with other games embracing all of its mechanics to the fullest and going CRAZY popular, while 5e went into a simpler, broader approach

[harsh hollow]

Speaking of which, it looks like they actually updated the buttons in the Known Spell area to say 5.5e/5e instead of 2012/2024.

[inner silo]

i hope they give ranger some more exploration features when another tashas comes out

[buoyant oar]

The learned the wrong lesson in their sprint. And that led to the most stagnant non-committal decade to the forgotten realms ever.

[rough basalt]

Yeah, lot of current new popular systems with core combat mechanics are either based off 4e or 1e/2e

[crimson gulch]

the new core books have been a great additon to 5e

[buoyant oar]

3e was the successor to AD&D

5e is the successor to Basic.

[night fern]

finally WOTC changed it to 5.5e !!!! Its SO MUCH easier to say 5.5 then "2024 rules "

[crimson gulch]

oh they did?

[harsh hollow]

Yeah, when filtering spells it says 5.5e/5e now.

[crimson gulch]

maby thats why they hadent announced any new books yet, they were working on new trade dress?

[night fern]

yes, i was homebrewing a monster and previously it had you select "2014 or 2024 stat block" now its "5e or 5.5e"

[buoyant oar]

So far this is only for DnDBeyond. No new Trade Dress is announced

[night fern]

thank god i hated saying "2014 / 2024 "

[harsh hollow]

Spell page is still an unstable mess though.

[crimson gulch]

oh more just dnd beyond stuff

[buoyant oar]

Specifically cover trade dress changes not happening.

[crimson gulch]

boooo, give me books WOTC
im nearly done my Calimport and Moonshae islands campaigns

[rough basalt]

"They don't wanna" - Hasbro guy disguised as WotC

[crimson gulch]

they dont get money from me without printing new books, and i make about 2k a month running dnd. lol

[halcyon forum]

I mean its pretty obvious that this change wont remain a DDB thing only, as it cements the community terms

[hollow stone]

see i only know Hasbro for one kind of toy so i'm imagining Optimus Prime in a wizard outfit lol

[harsh hollow]

It does feel like by now something should at least be announced.

[crimson gulch]

i wonder what the odds are that we will have a new dnd campaign book from Wotc by july? becase thats when im going to need like 3

[harsh hollow]

It feels like they just tossed out a few UAs and called it a month.

[atomic kayak]

Bad decision ngl (calling it 5.5)

[harsh hollow]

Like it's nice to get the other halves of Heliana and Griffon's Saddlebag, don't get me wrong, but what are you up to Wizards?

[solar nebula]

good night 😊

[crimson gulch]

i bet the servers crash on may 5 for dnd beyond with it officaly being 5.5 XD

[molten pumice]

I've still gotta get the heroes of faerun book at some point, but I'm oddly frustrated that they're adding third party stuff instead of showing new WotC stuff. I would have thought I'd be super interested to see more third party added to the site, but I'm not all that interested in it and would personally much rather see stuff with the "expanded rules" tag coming out rather than the "partnered content" tag

[harsh hollow]

Feels like by the time we get another first party book they'll just be able to put out the next Humblewood and Obojima books.

[crimson gulch]

the new faerun books have been fantasitic, i have used so many of the adventures allready and they are fantastic

[serene jolt]

I don't even get 2k a month with my 9-5 full time job 🤣

[buoyant oar]

HOF and AIF are the best FR guides since the 3e FRCS

[serene jolt]

I might need to look into professional dming rofl

[harsh hollow]

Even just a "I know it's quiet but we're working, don't worry" would be nice at this point.

[crimson gulch]

its been a gamechanger for me, im a full time stay at home dad and there are not a lot of jobs i can squeeze into a few hours every evening aftyer the kids are in bed

[serene jolt]

Totally valid. And it's not a terrible job I bet

[harsh hollow]

I think they announced an AMA at some point soon, if they don't announce something themselves soon I feel like they're gonna have to know that's gonna be a lot of the questions.

[crimson gulch]

honestly the very best i ever had, in terms of personal satisfaction and $/hour

[molten pumice]

Scanning over the recent UAs it seems like they have plenty slated, but they're probably gonna work a way to split it into a ton of small releases into the end of this year or the start of next rather than just handing it all over

[serene jolt]

Where would I start, doing pro dming? I've done lots of casual dming in both 5e and 5.5e rules. How did you start getting into it?

[rough basalt]

ye im not a fan tbh

[crimson gulch]

i got started a few years ago by going and buying a ticket to go play a game at a local game shop, i introduced my self as a DM who was running 3 games.

i played and they also booked me for an interview to run games for the shop. Nailed it and have been doing that at the shop 2 to 3 nights a week ever since.

then last year i also started running even more paid games on Start playing and now im fully bookd on there and at the shop so its been grand.

[rough basalt]

cause i think theres gonna be a lot of "haha i told yall its 5.5 but you said "nuuu its still 5e"" posts

[crimson gulch]

i was running games for less than a year when i started as a professioal dm at the shop

[molten pumice]

People were gonna call it 5.5 anyway. With them not wanting it called that people were just getting pushback for calling it the most natural thing to call it

Don't think it's gloat worthy but I feel like it was bound to happen at some point

[rough basalt]

Oh the gloating will happen at some point, some people are just that way, id be surprised if i never see it at least once

[glossy otter]

Wait, what happened now? did it officially get called 5.5?

[serene jolt]

We do have a local game shop but we're kinda in a smaller area so I'll give that a shot, but I doubt I'll get anywhere with it until I move to a more populated area.

[rough basalt]

ddb updated to call it such

[molten pumice]

It's more convenient than saying 2014 or 2024 and people like to go with what is most convenient

[serene jolt]

Thank you for the tips! I'll see what I can do with that.

[glossy otter]

tbh I'm not too surprised because everyone kept calling it 5.5 though it kept getting corrected to 2024

[crimson gulch]

its for sure area dependent on weather or not you can do it professionally in person, and so many shops don't actually value a pro game and just will give you store credit tops or just begrudgingly give you a table, my shop knows the value of great events and has a private room for my games.

[inner silo]

is the bloodhunter a decent choice for an int skills class?

[jovial shadow]

Well now it doesn't matter. 5.5 is official, regardless of the differences in terms made previously. 🙂

[crimson gulch]

its not offical till its printed in a book, its just a lable on dnd beyond imo

funny that they had to mess about with it, between One dnd and now this theres been some bungles

[jovial shadow]

It's printed in their FAQ's, so that's official

[glossy otter]

I'd laugh if it was just due to someone hacking it and setting that up to cause a mass conversation XD

[still plover]

Iffy. Rogue might be better.

[inner silo]

which one of them would be better at ranged combat?

[glossy otter]

I wonder though if this means we'll see a 6e in another 10 years

[jovial shadow]

I hope not. I like the Monk just how it is. Who knows what 6e might look like or even if the Monk will be printed with it?

[inner silo]

maybe artificer will finally become a core class

[glossy otter]

That one I doubt as it 'technically' was made by someone other than dnd but officially established as Eberron was brought into the dnd fold

[inner silo]

i see

[still plover]

Well, blood hunter gets a smidge from their rite and later extra attack, but rogues get sneak attack early and it's pretty reliable.

[glossy otter]

As much as I'd love that, I doubt it (In response to Cracker)

[jolly agate]

Finished another session, now i can tallk (yipieee)

[glossy otter]

woo, how did it go?

[inner silo]

alrighty, thanks for explaining

[jolly agate]

bad

everything went to hell

But we all survived. Kinda

(some nightbringers kidnapped our Cleric)

[molten pumice]

I can get behind a 6e eventually but it'd have to be way down the line. I was cool with the 2024/5.5 thing but the idea of going through it again doesn't sit right with me. Maybe if it's something drastically different that somehow keeps the good and adds the things that people feel make the game more narratively fulfilling, but I think I'd be more likely to get my hands on a genie lamp than a 6e that would interest me enough to be worth the trouble

[jolly agate]

Gawd i hate Thultanthar

[harsh hollow]

Honestly they should have just had the commitment to do 6e instead of 5.5e. I'm pretty sure the hesitation was purely because their modern brand identity is wrapped up in a lot of podcasts and other shows that use 5e.

[rough basalt]

I probably wont make the switch to 6e when it happens unless they cook up something I can't ignore

thats how much i like how 5e currently is

[feral fulcrum]

A 6E would have been financially stupid.

[worn lagoon]

thief rogue can potentially be the strongest martial with the right dm

[feral fulcrum]

5E is still Incredibly Popular and making bank.

[inner silo]

depending on magic items given?

[worn lagoon]

basically that and accessibility of cantrip and lv1 spell scrolls

and well, scrolls in general

[inner silo]

alrighty, will keep in mind for the future

[harsh hollow]

Making a half-edition instead of just iterating on 5e feels like such a half-measure though, like they enjoyed the idea of making a big change but lacked the follow-through to actually do it.

[worn lagoon]

but those two tiers are supposed to be commonly accessible and relatively cheap

[molten pumice]

I don't think a 6e would have worked. I already don't go back to 2014 content when they made an effort to make the two compatible, if they called it a fully new edition and tried to claim backwards compatibility so that people didn't feel forced into a whole new game, it would have been hopeless

[rough basalt]

I just want the new book announcements

I only use 2014 content that isnt reprinted personally

[inner silo]

idk we barely get scrolls in the campaign im currently in but we dont have a wizard either

[worn lagoon]

i emphasize the dm part

[harsh hollow]

In my campaign we basically only get scrolls if we ask for them. (During shopping intermissions.)

[worn lagoon]

also, anyone with arcana proficiency can write down a scroll iirc

[inner silo]

ill probably try that

[harsh hollow]

We still have to buy them during that time of course, I just don't think we've ever gotten them as standard loot.

[worn lagoon]

you could ask your DM if there's any possibility of the thief getting their hands on a wand of magic missile as well

[inner silo]

were all charisma casters with no arcana proficiency atm

[harsh hollow]

Something I see less often but is still a thing is that wizards can also copy spells from the spellbooks of other wizards, if you find one.

[worn lagoon]

damn, arcana is an auto-take on my sorcerers and warlocks for this reason

[feral fulcrum]

Provided you know the spell you're scribing. And provided you have the time and money to devote to it.

[woven herald]

Is there a dice expert?

[feral fulcrum]

Why do you need a Dice Expert?

[harsh hollow]

Elaborate.

[inner silo]

i dont think any of us remembered scrolls exist when we made our characters. we dont get much time to write scrolls down either though

[worn lagoon]

wand of fireballs would go incredibly hard if your dm hands you the oppurtunity to get one

[harsh hollow]

There's also a necklace with fireball beads.

[small heath]

Question: does a druid's diet change based on the beast/creature they are?

[worn lagoon]

iirc scroll writing isn't a strenous activity so it can be done during the 2 awake hours of a long rest and during short rests

[spice stump]

One of my players wants to play a character similar to kirby in that they can gain stats temporarily from eating the soul of a creature after killing them, does anyone know how i can balance it

[woven herald]

I want to buy some nice dices for pen and paper (as I never played it yet but soon I will) and I need to know if there are some rules e.g. (don't buy yellow dices) or these dices are sht
Or tips like buy metal dices bc they are nice

[inner silo]

i didnt know long rest got awake hours

[feral fulcrum]

That's a fluff question more then a mechanical question. But yes, since they're Physically turning into something, if it can't eat X, then they can't eat X.

[worn lagoon]

you sleep for at least 6, or trance for 4 if elf

[harsh hollow]

You're generally not in a wildshape long enough for that to matter.

[jovial shadow]

Just think about it: 6e, if it indeed happens, it will be without Crawford and that makes you wonder what changes would happen. Both written and in art? Hm

[woven herald]

I would be happy if sb would be able to vc and help me decide (the first 5 dices arrived today :)

[harsh hollow]

You can only wildshape for a number of hours equal to half your Druid level rounded down.

[crimson gulch]

6e is 10 years away at least

[small heath]

I really wasn't asking about how long the druid shape last, it's just a question about if it's a yes or no

[rough basalt]

Gonna get my new eberron book ordered today hopefully

[jovial shadow]

Yep. Long rest is 8 hours or 6 if doing completely menial tasks

[small heath]

That doesn't really matter to me.

[worn lagoon]

i would assume yes

[woven herald]

Or does sb. know a dc server where I could get help? Lol

[feral fulcrum]

There are no rules beyond "Get the correct Dice that are actually used in the game." And Metal Dice are fine provided you're A: using your own table and don't care about scratched B: The table you're rolling on has a covering.

[harsh hollow]

If you absolutely must eat while in wildshape you'd probably have that creature's limitations but you're usually wildshaped for a reason.

[inner silo]

i see. Getting 6 hours of sleep is lowkey more realistic

[small heath]

Yeah, and the situation can involve food.

So if the answer is 'yes' then that's all I wanted clarification on.

[worn lagoon]

arcana always felt like the most common int skill so i always took it even before we started scribing stuff

[woven herald]

Oh well that's more relaxed than i thought

[inner silo]

i like taking history

[worn lagoon]

sage background is cool

[tough sandal]

Sage background do be a strong one.

Simple is better. :)

[worn lagoon]

acolyte tends to be my pick but sage is 2nd fave

[jovial shadow]

You are only basing that on 5e to 5.5e, and that's not a standard. Corporate managers tend to want to shake things up when they are hired in. It's possible the new guys could notify us of changes this fall.

[worn lagoon]

thaumaturgy is cool in rp and guidance is guidance

n command for the spellà

sometimes bless it depends

[tough sandal]

I've honestly been a little more mindful of Guidance usage as a GM, specifically regarding the Verbal and Somatic components. 🤣

[harsh hollow]

I always see that short in my head where the person doing guidance Default Dances while glowing.

[tough sandal]

I'm never gonna say "no", but in an especially prominent scene where all characters are on high alert, I'm gonna be reigning in on that 1d4 bonus duck.

[twin panther]

5.5e huh

[iron aspen]

Is there any way to (legally) get the "lucky" feat in a roll20 custom background without buying the player's handbook on that platform? I purchased SO much content on dndbeyond (including the player's handbook) and don't want to have to buy it again unless its the only way

[worn lagoon]

get subtle spell'd

[tough sandal]

Subtle spell my beloved.

[worn lagoon]

generally i just refresh concentration on it if i have nothing better to concentrate on and dms don't tend to argue with that since it's a whopping 10 minutes

but if i concentrated on something else during combat and i'm yelling death threats at the end of it i'll subtle spell for the intim check

[stoic haven]

Just add it manually once you make the character sheet

[somber mesa]

https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/categories/6712832818196-General-Information

So D&D Beyond is swapping to calling it 5.5e since the community preferred that over 2024 or 5.24

[fair summit]

In fairness it was previously causing a lot of confusion, so hopefully it'll be a good change

[still plover]

Pingu: "Well now I am not doing it."

[latent hare]

Man I can't decide if I should get an Elden Ring dice set or a liquid core starry dice set

[fair summit]

Dice goblin: Both is good

[torpid hound]

"When you have this condition, your speed is reduced to 0, attack rolls against you have disadvantage and your attack rolls have disadvantage"
Buzz Lightyear clones meme

[latent hare]

I would love to but I gotta save for other things so I can only get one

[shadow vapor]

Yo fells soooooooooooooooo, this.

One with Shadows
Prerequisite: Level 5+ Warlock

While you’re in an area of Dim Light or Darkness, you can cast Invisibility on yourself without expending a spell slot.

does this mean I will stay invisible even if I do leave the dim light or darkness, you know because I'm casting a spell? could I just hide under my huge ruin knight goliaths legs and go completely invisible for?

[fair summit]

You just get to cast invisibility free in these conditions, afterwards the spell works exactly the same otherwise

[shadow vapor]

DAMN

[feral fulcrum]

It does what it say it do. If you're in Dim Light or Darkness, you can cast the Invisibility spell on yourself. The Invisibility spell does not care waht lighting conditions you're in.

[shadow vapor]

that's crazy, the greatest Buff sense agonizing blast (these buffs came out on the same update but whatever lol)

[stray atlas]

so bit of a dumb question, how evil is shar compared to bhaal?

[crimson gulch]

More philosophical evil less murder evil. But still some murder

[tough sandal]

Yeah, Shar is more like "Ego Death" rather than "Literal Death".

[rough basalt]

Shar wants true Nihilism, where you're nothing

[stray atlas]

I'm still surprised shar hasn't at least been knocked down a peg or three

[rough basalt]

However she can't achieve that cause she can't stop coping and seething over her more attractive sibling

[stray atlas]

ik she is stupid powerful but still

[rough basalt]

its cause shes very old and kinda core to existence

[stray atlas]

I didn't say killed

[rough basalt]

For a beautiful gold standard of goddesses to exist there needs to be the absolute worst ugly standard as her twin

[stray atlas]

I'm genuinely surprised another deity or group of deities haven't just had enough of her

[rough basalt]

Oh they have, its just they cant do anything about it

Best they can do is keep mortals hopeful, ambitious, and other things that make people feel alive to keep her seething

There's a reason why her only peer and ally is Lolth and even thats only cause they're both petty goddesses seething over another deity

[stray atlas]

also I'm surprised that there aren't any groups outside of selunites (to my knowledge) that destroy her places of worship

[rough basalt]

It wouldnt surprise me if Mystra's worshippers do too

[stray atlas]

mystra worship always has seemed a bit weird to me

[rough basalt]

Since she hates Mystra for the same reason she hates Selune

[stray atlas]

like where's the line between a wizard and a cleric of mystra?

[rough basalt]

Superior physical appearance, and encourages the opposite of nihilism.

[rough basalt]

Wizard has a talent that they studied and honed, probably says a prayer or has a statue at home, a cleric is gifted, says a lot of prayers, frequents places of worship.

Tho not all wizards worship mystra

Some wanna be like Karsus

[feral fulcrum]

Plenty of Knowledge deities out there to worship.

[rough basalt]

Oghma for example iirc

[hushed mason]

Athena!

[stray atlas]

that reminds me actually

[tough sandal]

Knowledge is good.

Books are good for the brain.

[stray atlas]

ik 10th and 11th spells were a thing, did they have any specific relation to mystra outside of the usual?

[fast latch]

When making a character or stat block, do you put the number first (Ex. 15 Str) or the stat first (Ex. Str 15)?

[south prawn]

There’s no right or wrong here

[stray atlas]

hell were they even a thing when mystra existed?

[jolly agate]

The fact that there's a city controlled by the Church of Shar in the sky, above a badass magic desert is pretty cool ngl

[fast latch]

Damn those are great stats

[umbral girder]

Is that the one Elminster crashed?

[fast latch]

Why 19 Cha instead of Wis?

Aren't Cook's Utensils a Wis skill?

[umbral girder]

Yes they are

[stray atlas]

who even is elminster?

[fast latch]

Ohhh Sorcerer

[stray atlas]

they appeared in bg3 and seemed to be important

[umbral girder]

The Forgotten Realms was originally a novel series about a Wizard named Elminster

Basically the entire setting started because Ed Greenwood made a series called "Elminster"

[jolly agate]

Idk im talkin abt Thultanthar

[stray atlas]

so he's the closest thing to a main protagonist?

[jolly agate]

THE ELMINSTER. The coolest wizard of all time

[jolly agate]

No no no, He IS the main protagonist

[umbral girder]

More like the original. There are a lot of characters like that in FR.

[jolly agate]

😔🙏

[spare nacelle]

Oh snap I didn't know this

[craggy summit]

even more than mordenkainen or Tasha or alustriel silverhand? 👀

[umbral girder]

The other most notable is the Ranger Drizzt Do'Urdon.

[jolly agate]

Alr u got me there

[umbral girder]

Drizzt and Elminster's series are the biggest ones for the Forgotten Realms.

[fast latch]

Tasha is cooler than Elminster

[rough basalt]

Alustriel, the woman who once employed herself as "beautiful woman to come look at" between multiversal jumps

[jolly agate]

so peak

[stray atlas]

btw I read something saying that the first sorcerer was mystra's child, is that true?

[umbral girder]

Fun fact Tasha was made because of fan mail sent to Gary Gygax that was written in crayon.

[jolly agate]

Anyway, Thultanthar still exists right??

[spare nacelle]

Oh wow

[jolly agate]

I mean. Me and ma party got there (Some Netherese sorcerers teleported us there after beating the hell out of us)

[craggy summit]

Do y'all know how mordenkainen was made? On the topic

[rough basalt]

it was dropped

[stray atlas]

that must've left quite the crater

[rough basalt]

An old man had an old moment and didnt know where he was so he dropped it on another city

[umbral girder]

Yeah it was Gygax's PC he played a lot

[jolly agate]

ma DM is playin whit time travel and shi, this is gettin cooler by the minut

[craggy summit]

Correct 🙂‍↕️

[rough basalt]

yeah Elminster dropped it on Myth Drannor and the reconstruction of Myth Drannor is still in progress iirc

He was bored and needed a distraction /j

[umbral girder]

Well also because that Netherese city was gonna end the world and he didn't have many options where to drop it.

So he went to the one with the least people, an old ruin.

[rough basalt]

A convenient excuse, Mystra made up a good one

[stray atlas]

also I've been playing fnv lately and was wondering, does dnd have any annoying giant bugs of note?

[rough basalt]

Carrion Crawlers?

[umbral girder]

Rust Monsters

[rough basalt]

Rust Monsters yeah

[umbral girder]

Rust Monsters are bugs that are in fact very annoying

[rough basalt]

They're the number 1 monster to throw at martial parties

[umbral girder]

The "deletes your gear" monster

[stray atlas]

sounds like they're just as annoying as cazadors

[rough basalt]

They are pretty annoying

but they only care about metal, so if you dont have any metal theyre harmless

[stray atlas]

how do they work with metals that don't rust?

[rough basalt]

They eat the metal

[umbral girder]

They eat it

[stray atlas]

fair enough

[rough basalt]

They're a good monster to learn from

[stray atlas]

I'd imagine they're resistant to a few things thanks to their metal based diet?

[rough basalt]

they stay in their lane, on their grind, not looking for trouble.

I dont think they have any resistances

[stray atlas]

that is genuinely surprising

[stoic haven]

Just started playing 3 days ago

[rough basalt]

Nah they dont

[stray atlas]

I would've expected acid or fire

[rough basalt]

Nah they're flesh

[naive cedar]

cazadors…..violent shiver

[rough basalt]

their bodies are just units that turn rusted metal into sustenance

[stray atlas]

do kinda wonder if they could be used to locate metal veins in a way akin to how pigs are used to find truffles

[rough basalt]

Ye they could

[stoic haven]

laughs in Ironwood

[rough basalt]

They're not hostile if you dont have metal on you or attack them

[stray atlas]

might be a decent idea for a settlement

[rough basalt]

But problem is, theyre gonna rust it and eat it unless you kill them

[stoic haven]

Xorns at least are tamable to an extent

[stray atlas]

like pigs with truffles lmao

good at locating them, pain to deal with because they'll eat the thing you wanted them to find

[umbral girder]

Aren't Xorns like people level sapient?

[stray atlas]

what's their int?

rust monsters I mean

[umbral girder]

"Taming Xorns" is what mainly caught the eye but I'll check rust monsters

[stray atlas]

I wasn't talking about taming xorns, idk what those are

[umbral girder]

2 Int, rust monsters are bugs

[stray atlas]

eh they could probably be tamed given enough time, don't dogs also have 2 int?

[umbral girder]

3

[lavish flame]

Int of 3 for a Mastiff, but I think you're right

I think Rust Monsters are intelligent enough that you could tame them by consistently feeding them

[feral fulcrum]

I'm rather amused that my group subverted our DM's expectations last session in not fighting the Wild Hunt, and instead succesfully running away, and then getting into a Drinking Contest with Oberon instead.

[reef tundra]

Like crows?

[stray atlas]

also depending on their wisdom I feel like they might develop a relationship like bees have with beekeepers

where the giant animal takes some food but leaves you with a lot while also being kept safe

[lost ice]

what tip would you give to still be a cool kind of edgy character like batman but not "that guy" type of edgy?
I love metal themes and some features' names, especially warlock's, paint the picture themselves

[stray atlas]

ngl these things remind me of an idea I had for a creature a few years back

basically tiny dragons that lived in the astral plane who blasted asteroids with breath that transmutes them into stuff they can eat (this was before I learned that beings in the astral plane didn't need to eat)

[umbral girder]

Just don't make them a jerk to other people and show friendliness to the other PCs.

[stray atlas]

generally make them willing to work with others most of the time

and if they ever want to work alone at least make sure you have a reason for why they might want to do so

[stray atlas]

might use them for something else some day

[ionic urchin]

so i have a friend thats been been trying to teach me and one other dnd using somewhat modified homebrew mechanics. and the other person trying to learn keeps trying to ask out of game what would happen if i did this. what are consequences of that. wanting to try and buy or loot powdered kegs to make bombs.. he has the soldier background by the way. sometimes i feel like he just wants to play it like its call of duty and dosent really want to learn. he just wants to mess around making makeshift things

[stoic haven]

I was incorrect in my Xorn taming idea

I thought I read somewhere that a group used to tame Xorns to hunt treasure

[lavish flame]

definitely, although with crows I think you can accidently imprint upon them by feeding them. I think with Rust Monsters, it would need to be deliberate

[reef tundra]

You can deliberately do it with crows too

[lavish flame]

In NetHack (a dungeon crawler based on AD&D2e), a common strategy for navigating the dungeon involves Polymorphing into a Xorn and eating the walls. I imagine people have done similar things throughout the years in actual D&D

[reef tundra]

I deliberately feed crows to try imprint on them

[lavish flame]

yeah, im saying you couldn't accidently tame a Rust Monster like how you could a Crow.

[reef tundra]

Focus on try. Because I am bad at handling animals

[reef tundra]

I suppose if it was by accident they’d just perceive it as them successfully stealing. So yeah youre right

[fickle heart]

5.5e indeed.

[jolly agate]

Autognomes are cool as hell

even more when u can steal stuff and hide it inside them

[rough basalt]

An hour and a half till I reach t2 as a dm again.

[harsh hollow]

I remember people thinking that Autognomes were broken for being able to heal with Mending even though it costs hit dice to do and you're unlikely to get it off in battle.

[tulip lava]

So, is 5e 2024 now officialy 5.5?

[harsh hollow]

Looks that way.

The tools are calling it that. :3

[tulip lava]

As per the options on the homebrew monsters stat block style selector

yeah, that's what I just saw

[harsh hollow]

The menu for picking spells calls it that now too. (The filters that used to say Core and Expanded rules now say 5.5e and 5e rules.)

[knotty pasture]

Oh good now we can finally call 5.5e as it is

[normal canyon]

when will it be 6e

[spring light]

they stopped calling it editions, i do believe

wait.. wait... was there a change?

[harsh hollow]

Mhmm! Seems to have gone into effect today.

[spring light]

where

[tulip lava]

yes, in the character creator you also now can choose 5e rules and/or 5.5e rules

[harsh hollow]

If you look at tools (like the known spells menu) it changed to this terminology.

[tulip lava]

"Sources

You will only see character options from content you own and have enabled here in both the builder and your character sheet. Removing all sources will prevent you from being able to create a complete character.

Homebrew
Character options designed by other players and uploaded to D&D BEYOND. Talk to your DM before including Homebrew content.

5.5e Core Rules
Character options from the 5.5e Player’s Handbook, Dungeon Master’s Guide, Monster Manual, and D&D Beyond Basic Rules.

5.5e Expanded Rules
Character options from supplementary sourcebooks beyond the 5.5e Core Rules."

[valid geyser]

huh

neat

[knotty pasture]

https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/46714579089428-Did-Wizards-previously-say-the-2024-rules-wouldn-t-be-called-5-5e

There's even FAQs on it now I believe

[idle oar]

Please make sure to provide context when sharing links

[knotty pasture]

Sorry I was three seconds late in explaining, seems like an official article about the name change

[idle oar]

Gotcha - thanks!

[jolly agate]

Idk the auto gnome in ma party started to dance outa knowhere and deceived some priests of shar into gettin us inside the Church, 10/10 race

Nothin to say

[harsh hollow]

Oh yeah, they're a fun idea for sure.

It's just that being able to heal from a cantrip isn't as broken as people think. It's not free and requires a full uninterrupted minute to cast.

[valid geyser]

re: 5.5 change this does seem to be a ddb specific change and not a wotc change yet

[spring light]

ddb is strictly wotc though, is it not?

[valid geyser]

d&dbeyond is owned by wotc but ddb has a seperate team so its possible this is a ddb team descision and not a wotc one

[harsh hollow]

For it to be a WoTC change they'd have to release a new book.

[jolly agate]

Would u trust in a cow whit a robe?

[idle oar]

Yes D&DBeyond is owned and operated by D&D, a part of WoTC which is part of Hasbro.

[knotty pasture]

But it also gives the name more validity if a branch of WOTC is calling it 5.5e

[spring light]

it would have to be approved by wotc to get changed in such a major way on ddb

erego have to be approved by hasbro

[idle oar]

I think this is D&D deciding to move on with naming the 2024 updates aligned with what apparently the majority of the community are calling it.

[knotty pasture]

Ddb isn't niche enough to be disregarded too

[reef tundra]

No

[harsh hollow]

To be fair it is more in line with how older editions did it.

[reef tundra]

Gives me bad vibes

[harsh hollow]

I'd wonder when I stepped into an old Chik Fil A ad.

[spring light]

this cow that shows up in places where there are no cows is already a red flag

[jolly agate]

Ye ma party was right

[harsh hollow]

See what you were missing is you didn't give the cow in a robe one of those Groucho glasses things.

[jolly agate]

I think there's cows in Thultanthar

[harsh hollow]

It'd be foolproof then.

[jolly agate]

nah ma cow only has a stolen wizard hat. Used to have boots but they got disintegrated

[jolly agate]

Wait a second u got somethin there

[woven flint]

A Bovine Cleric is a Holy Cow

[jolly agate]

What abt a warlock cow?

[undone rain]

I wonder if you can make kratos in dnd

[woven flint]

Helly Cow or Unholy Cow

[jolly agate]

Goliath race

and kinda that's it, ye

[undone rain]

Goliath barbarian

[jolly agate]

just give ur boy dual swords and boom, kratos

[harsh hollow]

You can even get a returning axe for later on.

[spring light]

wow. i had never considered this

[woven flint]

You're welcome
Come to me anytime you need wisdom

[reef tundra]

You truly are a scholar of the highest wisdom

[harsh hollow]

A bunch of what used to be artificer infusions are now just items in their own right that you can just find because of how they changed it.

[woven flint]

I'm clearly the intellectual beyond intellectuals 🧐 /silly

Friends
Am i; Lawful Goofy, Neutral Goofy or Chaotic Goofy?

Or dare I say...
Silly?

[jolly agate]

Chaotic goofy

[undone rain]

Your a goofy goober

[jolly agate]

Perhaps a little silly

[woven flint]

So, you're telling me

I could also claim the title of...
Silly?

[lament sapphire]

Idk, anyone who puts themselves into a lordly position above others certainly has the capacity for evil

[spring light]

having the capacity and actively choosing not to = good

[tame estuary]

I'm evil at certain days of the month

[woven flint]

Dear friend
Goofy is my Karmatic Alignment
I'm just wondering if I'm Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic

[jolly agate]

Yes

[lament sapphire]

Yes

Wonder no more!

[spring light]

most average people are neutral, tending good. erego you are neutral goofy

[woven flint]

It seems my friends have spoken
I am... silly

[tame estuary]

alignment is really hard to play when "you're not feeling that alignment today"

[spring light]

alignment is descriptive, over a span of time, not presecptive for every action all the time

[tame estuary]

tokii I've heard the things you say at hangout VC, you are malicious goofy

dupicitous goofy, conniving goofy, nasty goofy

[woven flint]

Hush, nobody else here knows how Goofy I really am!

[jolly agate]

I am NOT thy friend

Yet (the request still pending)

[woven flint]

I am Tokii, friend of all.

[jolly agate]

Alr now yes

[tame estuary]

he says this and then he touches you

[rough basalt]

Don't worry.
Tokii will perish tonight.

[naive cedar]

I’m a tressym

[woven flint]

Anyway, silliness aside
I'm gonna be introducing a new character of mine in a high level campaign I've been in, because my other fellow is retiring ... perhaps after he potentially survives fighting a diety because he's got fatherly duties to attend to 🧐

[jolly agate]

4 sessions and ma cow is level 5, i think dis is goin a little slow

is it?

[woven flint]

I'm thinking of doing
An Air Genasi Forge Adept Artificer named
Gustav Volta
I've already thought of some.. quirks of his
He's going to...
Introduce himself in primordial, be surprised when nobody speaks it, have a Peregine Mask so he can constantly fly (he's not going to touch the ground unless he's forced to or if it's his airship) and he will call folks that aren't; Dragons, Giants or Elementals "Unnaturals".

Because in this world, Giants, Dragons and Elementals were the first beings to walk the realms

[rough basalt]

Getting the new Eberron book ordered

Getting the alt cover for it.

Soon my games will be shed of 2014 even more.

[jolly agate]

I kinda like it

ye. Perhaps a little cool, but not too cool

The right level of coolness

[woven flint]

He also has the Mark of Storm because of his Noble Blood among the Djinni (Air Genies)

I now need to learn the Primordial Language

[jolly agate]

Too cool

[woven flint]

Too cool? 😔

[dense nacelle]

Man I really wanna do like a level 20 one shot

[spring light]

then run one!

[jolly agate]

Too cool

[spring light]

chill

[torpid hound]

Everyone viciously mock me

[spring light]

you're lovely and everyone likes you!

[jolly agate]

Nah i like it

Pretty solid

[jolly agate]

Warlock of the Genie multiclass🤨

[torpid hound]

I said use Vicious Mockery not roll for Charisma

[spring light]

let me fix that

[woven flint]

No, he's just an Air Genasi
His father was A genie

[spring light]

you're lovely and everyone likes you! /s

[pseudo oriole]

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

[jolly agate]

gasp

[torpid hound]

Do you also fart in my general direction?

[torpid hound]

I'm gonna steal that if I ever play as a Bard

[sly crest]

I've heard that actually refers to how quickly rodents multiply and elderberry wine, i.e. your father was a drunk and your mother was very...popular

[jolly agate]

Ye, I grew up with that movie

Bloody love Monty python

[sly crest]

it's a classic

[spring light]

what about the flying circuis

[torpid hound]

You're overthinking this the joke is that the French guy isn't good at English literature

[sly crest]

oh

[torpid hound]

So he said gibberish

[jolly agate]

Pretty good ngl

[spring light]

no he's absoltuely right

[jolly agate]

But
The Knight who says Ni>>>>

[fossil hollow]

It

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[boreal escarp]

Im looking for a game

[idle oar]

Check #find-a-game to learn how to use the Looking For Game channels to find a group/game

[compact ferry]

anybody seen the new osq video?

[fossil hollow]

the what

[compact ferry]

one shot questers

its a criticism of min maxed and their use of funds

[fossil hollow]

use of what

[compact ferry]

money (crowdfunding)

[fossil hollow]

oh, Id rather not get into DnD tuber drama

[compact ferry]

lwk min maxed wasnt worth it for me

[tame estuary]

you know what I miss from my early dnd games

waking up and roleplaying how you wake up and what kind of eggs you're having in the morning

[still plover]

I think a minute around the campfire each day really helps reinforce travel time.

[tame estuary]

it's kinda something I wanna lean more towards in DMing, how to make people excited over the mundane things, a different kind of excitement than combat but they like them as well

I think part of it is making it something relatable to the players, something they can see themselves do and then think about how silly they can make it because they're not playing as themselves

cuz when you show me some magical trinket or lore specific thing happening outside, I either have to already in the mood to know what that thing is or already bought into the lore and know what I can play with

[crimson gulch]

If you don't watch the rain fall in peace time, the violence means nothing

[tame estuary]

so yeah new lesson learned today, engage with the players who don't really engage, with something they're comfortable with

[shrewd pebble]

I always found the idea of a rougelike dnd campaign to be genius

Its tuff

[umbral girder]

Well yeah it likely originated from D&D.

Probably tournament play.

[tame estuary]

hi nealen

[empty thicket]

Finn of Adventure time, is a fighter? Like, he use tons of weapons and most of time he doesnt have magic except that episode of wizards.

[woven flint]

The Nealenator :3

[empty thicket]

But hear me out, finn for being able to turn into that powerfull wizard was for the robes.

[tame estuary]

he also did ice ninjutsu for an episode lol

[eager marsh]

downtime activity features

[empty thicket]

Yeah, like, he in theory even got elecritity immunity thanks to a forest deity, Finn is just too op. Lets be thankful he is in the good side.

[tame estuary]

finn is fighter
jake is complicated
flame princess is sorcerer
bubblegum is artificer
marceline is bard
ice king is wizard
huntress is ranger

[empty thicket]

Marceline is druid

[tame estuary]

hmm

jake is druid, he even talks like one

[empty thicket]

jake cant turn into other animals. He can only stretch and change himself

[tame estuary]

plenty flavor for that mechanic

[empty thicket]

HE isnt even a dog, just half

Fair, the big baby is paladin

[tame estuary]

marceline is a bit weird because her powerset is just vampire, so maybe warlock?

[eager marsh]

she's just a vampire with bard levels

[empty thicket]

na, not just vampire, she is... a lot of stuff
Part human and demon (Father) but transformed in the princess of the vampires

[tame estuary]

she doesn't really do bard things, though this is mostly because she barely fights monsters... so bard yes

[fossil hollow]

Valor Bard

[eager marsh]

the demon stuff almost never comes up though. also she was straight up a vampire hunter at first. she has combat it's just backstory stuff

[tame estuary]

yeah

none in the show, lots it backstory

[eager marsh]

also ice king is sorcerer not wizard. he doesn't actually have intelligence or a book to use his magic. but the charisma is force f personality (the crown) and Simon's remnant performer talent

[empty thicket]

its how she was capable of suck the souls of the vampires and get their powers, part of her backstory mostly

[eager marsh]

there's a soul snatcher bard subclass that works to be fair

[empty thicket]

the gf of simon would be wizard, betty

[tame estuary]

ice king is a wizard due to how AT magic works, sadness and madness

[eager marsh]

But we're giving them 5e terminology

it's like how Dr Strange is called a Sorcerer in their world, but in D&D terms is a wizard

[tame estuary]

compared that to flame princess who's just born that way tho

[eager marsh]

She's just a high level fire elemental

[tame estuary]

high charisma because "Do the SPLITS!"

[woven flint]

Cavalier Fighter is incredibly fun when you're able to use unwavering mark efficiently

I used it against a hydra and only two of the attacks hit my Monk 😎
And only 2 hit me out of the Overall 8

[empty thicket]

yep, literally that

[eager marsh]

Unwavering Mark is nice and I really wish 5e wasn't so afraid of proper taunt type abilities

[tame estuary]

"so is flame princess evil, or maybe chaotic neutral"
"she's evil"
....
"there'd be penalties to her experience if she acted out of alignment"

best joke in the show

[empty thicket]

Hat of wizardy seems like a cool item, pretty funny

[woven flint]

I know 😭
It's so very fun when you can at least prevent allies from being Crit

[eager marsh]

Which is just...easier to do with Silvery Barbs

[empty thicket]

Or just Mantle of Spell resistance is an item i would like

[eager marsh]

Anything that gives enemies disadvantage has to be used pre emptively and may be wasted. Barbs you can literally wait until a crit is confirmed then reroll it

[empty thicket]

Because 1, could be used like a cape and would look cool
and 2, im a fighter, any anty caster tool is more than welcome

[empty thicket]

yeah,no surprise is banned in some campaigns posts i saw

[woven flint]

Sadly

[eager marsh]

people ban it because of abusing it to force enemies to fail saving throws too often

[vale sage]

Hiii, where can I find DND servers

Is there a channel where ads are posted?

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[tame estuary]

#looking-for-community

[eager marsh]

considering most relevant enemies end up wth huge save bonuses or just plain magic resistance its not even as op as people thing it's probability placebo

[tame estuary]

aren't you DMing right now?

[fossil hollow]

i can multitask, Nano got a kill

[eager marsh]

the DM addicted to DMing

[woven flint]

Kill Nano now

[fossil hollow]

nah

[jolly agate]

I kinda like text sessions

[empty thicket]

Still leaving it open and using the rule "if the players can do it the enemies too" so they understand how painful it is.

[woven flint]

I got another saddle of the Cavalier now
I sacrificed my old one to a Horse Riding Bandit captain way back so my party could leave alive, he deemed it a valuable trade

[jolly agate]

Quite cozy, like. just typing and shi

[woven flint]

I just need another Horse 😔

[limber trail]

Return the favour

[fossil hollow]

i got an ||Adult black dragon|| coming up remember?

[limber trail]

And an adult gold too

[eager marsh]

players are usually, statistically disadvantaged in that regard already

[fossil hollow]

different game though :3

[jolly agate]

i wanna find a dragon egg on a session so bad

[tame estuary]

abuse is abuse, if they ban a spell, it's banned for reasons

[limber trail]

Oh is that dragon today?

[fossil hollow]

yeap yeap!

[tame estuary]

even if you don't abuse it, it's still a must pick spell anyhow

[empty thicket]

In theory, Yes.
But from time to time giving them a spoon of their own medicine isnt bad. Will do it ONE only time to settle on them the fear

[eager marsh]

not a single spell in the game is a must pick

[fossil hollow]

Shield?

[tame estuary]

would be nice to have counterspell

[eager marsh]

still arent must picks. that implies the game is designed around teh assumption that you always take those spells when you can. which it isnt

[empty thicket]

Kinda... There are some spells that we cant deny, fit in more situations than others.

[eager marsh]

that means they are good. not that the game is designed to assume you take them

[tame estuary]

to reroll your opponents' roll will always be applicable

[empty thicket]

Indeed, if you have them good.
If you dont then things might be a bit more troublesome
Aka, remove curse.

[eager marsh]

and you can always just not take the spell. You aren't penalized by the game or system for that

[empty thicket]

Yep, you can not take it and tank the curses, poisons, etc. etc. etc.

[eager marsh]

correct. because the game also doesnt assume you even play a caster with access to such spells.

[tame estuary]

well there goes my discussion

[empty thicket]

Or find other ways, there must be church's, wizards, etc. that can take off the curses

Obviously, for either side missions or money

[limber trail]

There are contexts where it doesn’t always make sense. I don’t think it’s great for an eldritch knight for example

[tame estuary]

I'm saying that it's the best spell there is since it will always be applicable and relevant but I can't really say anything when the argument is that you can just take no spells if you want

[limber trail]

I also think Bladesingers can get by without it

[fossil hollow]

i mean, when monster bonuses can get to +19 at higher levels

[limber trail]

When they get to +19s is when they’re the least useful, because it just goes over the extra 5ac anyways

[eager marsh]

Ther argument is that it's not a 'must pick spell' and that the system doesnt penalize you for not using it. Also it's absolutely not 'the best spell' because if all you have is silvery barbs it's definitely not solving all your problems. It's also only usable once per turn and can still just do nothing. Enemies can still succeed the roll anyways

[limber trail]

It maybe negates a couple hits if the DM rolls really low

[tame estuary]

and spell slot economics right?

could use that spell slot for something even better in the situation

[eager marsh]

Correct

[empty thicket]

Yep, its a thing that everybody that protect bladesinger evade

You end up using too much spells in a defensive way

[eager marsh]

My divination wizard barely even uses silvery barbs unless I’m blocking a crit against my meat shield- I mean the barbarian.

[limber trail]

That too. Plus your reaction is so valuable. Counterspell, absorb elements, silvery barbs, shield all compete

As well as potentially subclasses and other reactions

It can be worth having but it’s not a must have

[eager marsh]

Also as an EK I disagree about the shield spell it has more value there when you are intentionally tanking and actually have good base AC as a fighter to supplement it against high To Hit bonuses

+19 is the terrasque

[empty thicket]

Yeah, rarely you get hit by a high roll and low damage....

It could be something that some enemy must have, idk.
Or something that someone can use for a kind of enemy

[tame estuary]

does sigh.. 5.5 wizards always have their subclass spells prepeared?

[fossil hollow]

no

they dont get subclass lists either

[tame estuary]

oh wait what, how have I never realized this

it just feels so natural to me that subclasses gives you additional spells

[empty thicket]

yeah but wizard already have a ton of them
Most subclasses of wizard upgrade your spells instead of give you extras

Or give you ways to upgrade them or do other things

[wooden mauve]

i has a very important question. can i make one of my players hallucinate (the paladin) and while they are hallucinating they break their oath and become an oathbreaker or does that not work

[empty thicket]

doesnt work like that, but you can make them loose either damage in ther divine smite, healing hands heal or other ways to punish not following an oath

[tame estuary]

do you want to change your player's subclass? not up to you though right?

[wooden mauve]

ok so its a very ig, homebrew thing where they are oath of crown but have some of the oathbreaker abilities bcs they arent fully following their oath/made a deal with an entity to gain necromancy in pursuit of their oath. and so uhm i jus wanted to make them hallucinate and kill their leader

but if that idea doesnt work im down to just, lower their divine damage stuff

i just wanted to know bcs they are playing a very happy character and its a little hard to come up with some nice uh character arc stuff for them.... so im traumatizing them

[tame estuary]

make a coinflip everytime they do radiant damage and replace it with necrotic, not following the oath too much every radiant becomes necrotic

it sounds cool and it doesn't really change the gameplay drastically

[empty thicket]

Lower their divine smite
Dont healing hands
Disadvantage in some rolls, etc. etc.

[tame estuary]

please don't nerf their character just so you can make the story interesting

[karmic pendant]

i think to become an oathbreaker a paladin has to willingly break their oath for things like power

[tame estuary]

their character and the class they picked is their thing, don't touch them

[wooden mauve]

oh no, they wanted to be an oathbreaker originally but didnt actually break their oath in their backstory. ive talked over this possibility with them already

i has their consent for this!

[tame estuary]

but they're so happy tho

you could just make it so that it doesn't happen or truly make a storyline where they have to twist their oath for the crown

[wooden mauve]

kinda what im trying to do. sorry not explaining it really well. but yeah the hallucinations arent really hallucinations

[tame estuary]

why is the first thing people think is to traumatize the characters? can't they just do the horrible things by their own volition?

[wooden mauve]

oh no their actions will be completely voluntary :3

[tame estuary]

won't be voluntary if you hallucinated them to do it

[bronze canopy]

Suffering builds character, I guess

[tame estuary]

and not how oaths work because you can repent after, making your oath stronger

[wooden mauve]

thats what i meant by hallucinations not rlly being hallucinations..... its more like puppets???

[wooden mauve]

will keep that in mind

[tame estuary]

it's still coercion

[wooden mauve]

wait no im not puppettering them.... im doing a horrible job of explaining.

the enemy is a puppet.... im just saying halluncination bcs the character doesnt understand how the enemy works

but thanks for the info! i will keep this in mind

[tame estuary]

ngl, oathbreaker's not even all that good, and if they're playing a happy character it might not fit with how they want to play the character

[wooden mauve]

tbh, they wanted to play a happy character as an oathbreaker

[tame estuary]

that's a pirate

[wooden mauve]

they have pistol proficincy too, may as well be a pirate atp

[tame estuary]

maybe talk to them about the pirate idea lol

[wooden mauve]

ill give them an eyepatch for free

[tame estuary]

legally you should not be in this position and the crown wants you dead, but you still follow your oath but twist it so that the ends justify the means

[wooden mauve]

oh yes that sounds great. will bring that up to them. tysm!!

[jolly agate]

aye

So, if i find a baby dragon, could i rise that thing to not kill ma arse?

[eager marsh]

Not too much. they're born sentient and usually more intelligent than adult humans

[quick flower]

Hi!

[empty thicket]

If you protect it from the other millions of dangers, aka, hunters, cultist, etc. etc.
You might gain a dragon favor and that isnt somethign small

[jolly agate]

And what abt adult cows?

[eager marsh]

steak

[jolly agate]

Alr

[fossil hollow]

now i want steak

[jolly agate]

thx mate. Cuz ma party ended up in high ice last session and that means, ice dragons

[fossil hollow]

yeah, dragons (aside from white) already know their languages within hours

[empty thicket]

Grilled, stew and smoked meat and a cool cow jacket

Surprisingly, even in medieval settings you can make a toooon of actual meals, croquettes, ice creams, etc. etc.

its food, or you think your "rations" only have dried fruits and nuts?

[jolly agate]

Ma cow eats grass thx very much

buuut we are in high ice now and i did not ate last session so i might die

[jolly agate]

Hiiiiiii!

[shy bramble]

Good day folks...I've completely forgotten but what's the command to place an ad for players again? It's been awhile and it's slipped my mind

[empty thicket]

you are the cow?

[jolly agate]

yes

[empty thicket]

you said that context in some moment?

[jolly agate]

I can't talk much abt my char cuz i fear another warn, if u have questions, dm

[empty thicket]

na ,i was just remarking that i didnt had context that you were a cow in that campaign.

[jolly agate]

Ye, im a Magic warlock cow

[empty thicket]

Warlcow

[jolly agate]

Hehehe

[quick flower]

C O W

My character is a bird but I feel like that is way more common

[cosmic roost]

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[woven flint]

Bird. 🫵

[quick flower]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[woven flint]

I enjoy birds.

[quick flower]

I have 2 birds

Kyrax is a Kenku and Alexander is an Owlin

[rough basalt]

Big session

Got to run my first Hydra, first wild magic zone, and started my first Wizard Tower dungeon with constructs, traps, and the place is being filled with extreme cold.

[umbral girder]

Sounds

Chill

[rough basalt]

Only 1 person with level 1 exhaustion so far

[umbral girder]

Doesn't sound all that ice for them

[rough basalt]

There is an upside tho

The tower has a town around it so if they get out they can take an extended rest off.

[umbral girder]

Sounds nice to have time to cooldown

[rough basalt]

Aight you're rolling double heat checks in Wednesday game /j

[umbral girder]

I'm sure I'll warm up to you

[rough basalt]

Let's see if the others can avoid the dark urge to get goodberry

[umbral girder]

Just make it a spicy berry

[rough basalt]

Con save to not throw it up

[umbral girder]

"Someone wished all the berries have really hot sauce on it"

[rough basalt]

I forgot how much XP t2 encounters start giving

[umbral girder]

Yeah but the xp goals in t2 are really big

[blissful ibex]

I play druid so I have it by default c:

[limber trail]

I wrapped up a game a few dats ago where we did nothing that I thought to be all too intensive or difficult altogether, and to my surprise we got about 5k xp each, which was most of our XP goal in one session.

[rough basalt]

True

[blissful ibex]

I don't think I've played a single game on Exp XD

everything is milestone all of the time

[rough basalt]

I like XP

[umbral girder]

Xp is sooooo good.

[rough basalt]

Tho I did give out more xp than I meant to on the last combat encounter cause I didn't put in the npcs so there will be an XP retcon.

[fossil hollow]

Adult Black Dragon has been dropped upon the level 6 (now 7 party)

[umbral girder]

They can take it

[rough basalt]

Not a bad retcon tho

Just a few hundred away

[blissful ibex]

ooo, how many players >:3

[fossil hollow]

5, and i just made them all expend their resources essentially

[blissful ibex]

and it's beyond deadly for 5 level 7s XD

[fossil hollow]

Druid, Sorceror and Wizard are out of, if not close to out of slots, Monk has to use Uncanny Metabolism

[rough basalt]

They're on Krynn.
Maybe it's time ot learn to Lance some dragons.

[blissful ibex]

tbf, if they just leveled they'll at least have any resources provided by the levelup

[fossil hollow]

indeed, cleric is thinking of immediately using Aura of Vitality lol

[fickle heart]

Oh noooo, the first time I'll have to use it.

[limpid zodiac]

hey guys

[vague sphinx]

Salutations comrade

[blissful ibex]

meanwhile my druid/lock is vastly behind on caster levels but still doing at least decent damage and has a really tough time actually running out of resources XD

[jolly agate]

How many worlds are there in Dnd? (Besides the coolest one Faerun)

[fossil hollow]

a lot

[limpid zodiac]

100

[fossil hollow]

Eberron, Krynn, Athas, Greyhawk, Radiant Citadel, and etc are just a few of the worlds in the entirety of DND

[jolly agate]

Really?

[timber turtle]

I thought an idea for a sorcerer or wizard to start ugly and old and then become more attractive and confident as they learn to enchant their looks and reverse their aging and that's their agenda to be on the adventure

[fossil hollow]

its way more than a 100

[jolly agate]

Are they in the same planet or like different universes or

[blissful ibex]

counting the inner and outter planes or just the various worlds within the prime material?

[vague sphinx]

What would u guys contribute to an adventuring party

[limpid zodiac]

the pees

[jolly agate]

Let's say in the main world of Faerun, how many planes are there?

[fossil hollow]

Its a multiverse

[timber turtle]

Jester errand runner

[jolly agate]

gawd

[umbral girder]

So material plane wise is the Forgotten Realms, Eberron, Dark Sun, Greyhawk, and a few more. There is also the inner planes with the 8 Elemental planes, also the Feywild with its Domains of Delight and the Shadowfell's Domains of Dread, then we got all the Outer Planes too, also Sigil. Also some planes have layers too. There is just a lot

[rough basalt]

The DnD multiverse is vast, but WotC mostly cares about Forgotten Realms with Eberron getting a little more love since Arti needed updated

[umbral girder]

We also got Critical role's world and the Magic the Gathering worlds too

[rough basalt]

Yeah Exandria is apart of the official multiverse cause of Wildemount book

[umbral girder]

Tbh I consider it more of an omniverse than multiverse

[blissful ibex]

well faerun is a single continent on a world within the prime material; it's connected to the elemental planes (possibly including the border elemental planes), also depending on wether you inlcude the positive and negitive planes, the astral, the etherial, and the 17 outer planes

also depending how you count the layers of the abyss, the inferal realm, and celestia that's a cool ~thousand or so

[umbral girder]

Since D&D's planes have their own multiverses too.

[rough basalt]

Faerun is a continent of a world.

[umbral girder]

Yeah Faerun is on the planet of Toril.

And Toril isnt the only planet in the Forgotten Realms

[timber turtle]

Fae run but the fae don't run it smh

[rough basalt]

There's other countries but for the most part they either weren't made by Ed and/or are forgotten due to racial insensitivity in the past.

[jolly agate]

oh god, my DM told us that we are going to travel to A LOT of hard places on Faerun and their planes so i don't know what to expect

[blissful ibex]

yep, a whole bunch of them within the prime material connected by the phlogiston

[umbral girder]

and Faerun has a LOT of stuff too

[rough basalt]

Like there was a mesoamerica country

But they tried so hard to not be problematic they ended up problematic

[umbral girder]

There is a Halfling country that is underwater

[hushed mason]

Maztica, I believe.

[rough basalt]

So it just exists

[umbral girder]

There is a Dragonborn country that keeps fading in and out of existance with another country

[rough basalt]

Abeir

[timber turtle]

Is it magic or tech?

[umbral girder]

Tymathor or something like that

[rough basalt]

Oh right Abeir was the planet or something right

[umbral girder]

As in it sank into the ocean.

There is a tech nation tho I don't remember the name of.

[umbral girder]

Yep!

[rough basalt]

Halruaa I think has magic tech

Since they're the ones with airships

[umbral girder]

It wasn't Halruaa I was thinking of, its like "Lantan" or something like that

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah Lantan

[umbral girder]

The one with firearms.

[jolly agate]

So far we were on Ashabenford. Tilverton, The desert of Anauroch, Thultanthar and now High ice

[rough basalt]

The place that made the first pieces

The first gats.

[umbral girder]

Faerun is a huge place

[fossil hollow]

cant forget its twin planet Abeir

[rough basalt]

Can't wait for next Monday

To see how the rest of the Wizard tower goes

[umbral girder]

Technically not a twin? More like the other half of the planet when it got chopped in half

[feral fulcrum]

Building, Exploring, or Stealing?

[rough basalt]

Exploring.

It's derelict, but somethings inside killing people who come in or something.

[umbral girder]

It’s the future versions of the PCs. They don’t know it yet because it’s in the future

[rough basalt]

It's a secret boss from Dark Souls 1.
It wears gilded heavy armor and has a mask resembling a father on.

[umbral girder]

Ah a Merragon

[rough basalt]

Uses a greatsword reflavored as a zweihander

[feral fulcrum]

Oh Nyo

It's Him!

[umbral girder]

Ah yes a Helmed Horror /jk

[rough basalt]

The legend never dies

[keen valve]

Are they actually calling it 5.5e now? I just saw on D&Dbeyond they had a category for 5.5e content for the monsters and such.

[feral fulcrum]

Yurp

[fossil hollow]

Dnd 5.24 nooooo

[feral fulcrum]

That sword better be some mighty fancy loot.

[rough basalt]

They did get some fancy loot this session

[fossil hollow]

is it the doggo with the sword?

[rough basalt]

A replacement saddle of the cavalier for the one that a Bandit took from Tokii

[fossil hollow]

oh wait, no, its artorias

[rough basalt]

Staff of Insects for the Bard

A superior heal pot, and their npc cohort got Mithril Breastplate

Cause the only one with med armor prof has 8 dex

[feral fulcrum]

No. It's ||Giant Dad, aka the Guy who shows up in Stone Giant armor and Father's Mask, with a Chaos Flame Zweihander. The Legend, the Meme, the DREAM||

[fossil hollow]

Oh!

[rough basalt]

Gonna make Artorias at some point

[fossil hollow]

i still need to make a sorrow-phaganax statblock

[rough basalt]

Death Knight starts doing frontflips with his sword

[woven flint]

"I'm going to bed"
LIES! King of Falsehoods, Timothy!!!

[fossil hollow]

i am in bed

[umbral girder]

Lies

[woven flint]

Go to SLEEP

[fossil hollow]

no

[feral fulcrum]

Mmm, I now yearn for the Millwood Greatbow.

[fossil hollow]

its only 10:30

[umbral girder]

Sleep

[fossil hollow]

i know its almost 1 am your time mate, you go to sleep

[umbral girder]

Should be sleeping 30 minutes ago

[rough basalt]

Gonna put the DS1 dark Sorceries into dnd as a dm tool

[fossil hollow]

im gonna sit here talking about reflavoring a sorrowsworn to look like a depressed dinosaur so i can make a saurophaganax pun

[umbral girder]

It is very much not 1am for me.

[tame estuary]

?

[rough basalt]

1st level spell: Dark Bead
Does 2000d12 damage

[fossil hollow]

not you, tokii

[umbral girder]

Counterspell

[tame estuary]

daylight savings have gone full effect

[umbral girder]

Wall of text momment.

[tame estuary]

sorry, in my head DM tool means something completely different lol

[fringe mural]

YES THE WALL

[umbral girder]

Especially since this isn't even the right channel for it.

#homebrew is where that goes.

[fossil hollow]

6651 + 6677

[umbral girder]

an interesting 2nd number you chose

[rough basalt]

Sounds about right

[fossil hollow]

also, yeah, #homebrew is the proper place for this

[fossil hollow]

i rolled it on avrae

[umbral girder]

Uh huh

[fossil hollow]

sora can vouch for me

[umbral girder]

a double 6 and double 7. sure....

[tame estuary]

I wonder how you can run a "vr game" game

[fossil hollow]

DC Comics type shit

[tame estuary]

like persona 5

[umbral girder]

Table top sim

Oh you mean the characters are in the VR, not the players

[tame estuary]

no I mean where you play as people who goes to the fantasy world and back

ye

[feral fulcrum]

Persona isn't really a VR game.

[fossil hollow]

lorwyn/shadowmoor typa vibe, i dig it

[tame estuary]

like code lyoko

[fossil hollow]

I should run a feywild campaign based off fairy tales and lorwyn

[umbral girder]

Have some mysterious bad guys that can go back and forth between the worlds but their identities are secret

[junior helm]

Hello

[umbral girder]

So you need to go back and forth to learn and stop them

[feral fulcrum]

I think treating Fey as serious, dangerous business is prefferable then...whatever it was that WOTC Attempted with Witchlight.

[umbral girder]

Yeah Witchlight is a load of ehhh

[tame estuary]

oh

[fossil hollow]

witchlight imo is pretty good.

the fact you can do it all without combat potentially is neat

[tame estuary]

so just like persona 5 there's 2 different games here, on the different worlds
but they're connected

[umbral girder]

Could even make it a roguelite thing perhaps

[fossil hollow]

but yeah, witchlight isnt exactly the vibe i want

[umbral girder]

The players arrive into a new dungeon each time

[fossil hollow]

i want shadowmoor/lorwyn, with shifts in everyone

[tame estuary]

dude I want to run witchlight, I love the circus so much

[umbral girder]

Witchlight has consistently been something I've had groups just not like.

[fossil hollow]

iirc, theres also a circus domain of dread, right?

[umbral girder]

The circus part is fun, everything else was not so fun

[humble cairn]

Isekai or Portal Fantasy?

[tame estuary]

ah

[tame estuary]

more like SAO

[fossil hollow]

technically isekai

[umbral girder]

Shame the circus stuff is only 1 chapter.

[tame estuary]

more like SAO season 2 part1 Gun Gale Online

[fossil hollow]

the hell is GGO

[feral fulcrum]

I'm aware. But the word you're probably looking for is probably closer to Isekai/Portal Fantasy, as Ophid just mentioned. Virtual Reality implies the other world is a complete fake conjured by simulations via technology. If the other world/realm is an Actual, physical thing, that's a different beast alltogether.

[humble cairn]

That's a very specific reference that I do not get.

[feral fulcrum]

Better Sword Art Online.

[tame estuary]

I will teach you all in the peak that is SAO

[fossil hollow]

isnt that an extremely low bar

[feral fulcrum]

It really is.

[umbral girder]

Yeah the bar was pretty low

[fossil hollow]

this is why ive only watch SAOA

[rough basalt]

GGO was peak.

[umbral girder]

I know one thing I'd like to emulate in D&D is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon but got no clue how to handle it.

[last marlin]

I've tried a few isekai campaigns and they never really work for me tbh

[humble cairn]

-# I'm tempted to just throw a bunch of letters together to make up a series.

[fossil hollow]

knowing light novel naming conventions, its most liely already a series

[tame estuary]

there's probably an entire system for pokemon

[umbral girder]

Well the pokemon part isn't what I'm trying to emulate

[humble cairn]

Seriously, it's like they have no time to actually tell you the story so they put the whole plot in the title.

[tame estuary]

the... guild? the dungeoning??

[limber trail]

The challenge with Isekai Campaigns is it usually imo leads to players not bothering to make any proper buy-in for the world and instead they just mash their own personal OC into a non-fitting setting

[feral fulcrum]

Fey Curse into Animal shape, Archfey bullies you into a Quest.

[fossil hollow]

i thought it was more put the blurb on the spine bcus nobody is going to flip to the back

[umbral girder]

90% of your gold goes to the Archfey /jk

That is part of PMD

[humble cairn]

Which is fine if that's what everyone signed up for and not just one player not wanting to actually play D&D.

[umbral girder]

And of course if anyone robs a merchant you get swarmed by merchants with the Tarrasque stat block each

[fossil hollow]

i hit the chicken 3 times

[empty thicket]

It is ethical if i bring my own vials for the healing potions and ask to be charged 49 instead of 50?

Or if i bring a waterskin and i wanted filled with healt potion juice

[umbral girder]

PMD making the merchants being hundreds of super bosses is so funny

[humble cairn]

Actually ... a explicitly isekai campaign where everyone knows they are in Dungeons and Dragons might be an interesting way to teach the system, since then you can have people using actual mechanics terms in character.

[limber trail]

Healing potions come pre-sealed. That’s like asking to get a bottle of coke from a vending machine for 5% off by bringing your own water bottle

[fossil hollow]

anyway, need ideas for a drepressed dinosaur called sorrowphaganax

[empty thicket]

but i dont wnat to pay for the bottle man!!

[umbral girder]

That was a novel if I remembered correctly set in Greyhawk

[tame estuary]

most people don't want to play as regular people though, they want to play a goblin who has dead parents

[umbral girder]

They kinda forgot the Isekai part after a chapter

[empty thicket]

want to use a tie but his neck is too long so there is no tie that fit him

[fossil hollow]

isnt it also Literally a cartoon

[umbral girder]

Venger trying to influence WW2 was wild from the cartoon.

I still love that Tiamat has beef with Venger

[empty thicket]

Na, Human fighter that face gods using a high mastery in weapons in a group with magic creatures, guys that can bend reality and others that can literally being immortal in rage and still being the most LETHAL of them all.

[tame estuary]

do they go back to the human world at the end of the PMD games? I have never finished them

[umbral girder]

She just decided "I don't like that sorcerer" and made it her personality

[umbral girder]

Thats spoilers not for this chat

[humble cairn]

Hmm ... Swamps of Sorrow, Shadowfell, Artax = Dinosaur spirits who fell into the La Brea Tar Pits and now have a sinking, swallowing, fetid muck aura?

[tame estuary]

I don't know what kind of pacing would work tho in this half fantasy half real world game

[fossil hollow]

... i love this, danke

:)

[humble cairn]

Aww great, I'm going to have to fight these things, aren't I?

[umbral girder]

I should do a quest where a red dragon can't use his breath attack and hires the party to help fix it

[fossil hollow]

dunno, will you?

[umbral girder]

And naturally he uses it on them when it's fixed.

[humble cairn]

Why do I keep giving you ideas?

[tame estuary]

is that what happens in dragonlance?

[fossil hollow]

ive been fascinated by adamatine and orange dragons lately

[umbral girder]

Orange Dragon when they meet the Knife Dragon

[fossil hollow]

pure sodium breath weapon is awesome