#dnd-discussion

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undone rain
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I wanted to simply use the sword as we were in combat but well then that happened

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Yeahhh dnds great

idle oar
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Read #find-a-game carefully to learn how to use our LFG channels to find a group to play D&D with.

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Also don't try and work around the word filters please.

jagged igloo
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My parents won't let me

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Oh ok! Sorry

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I just wanted to say that sword was really cool :p

idle oar
jagged igloo
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I asked my mom if I could ever do anything with dnd and she said no but in a meaner way :/

idle oar
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Sorry to hear that. Well sometimes finding time to play D&D is a matter of stage of life...

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I hope that someday you'll have the wonderful fun of playing D&D with a great group

jagged igloo
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I plan to! I'll probably do it soon as well... They can't really do anything if I play

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They'll be upset but when are they not :^

idle oar
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Well I mean I'd at least be reasonable about it and not try and purposefully annoy your guardians over it.
D&D is a game and it's not worth ruining relationships over it.

rugged hawk
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If they didn't wanna ruin their relationship, they'd support D&D feels_sad

jagged igloo
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I understand that- yeah- But I can't do drama or anything "nerdy." I actually can do this

idle oar
jagged igloo
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Plus Ive had 3 DIFFERENT groups ask me to play and Ive had to say no. Its kinda ruinin my friendship if ya think about it /hj

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I understand tho, I get whatcha mean. Ill continue watching my podcast and survive (:^

rugged hawk
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I'm of the opinion that if guardians are perpetually disappointed / irritated to begin with, it's better to just do what makes you happy since they won't be regardless. Shrug

jagged igloo
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Thas very truee... Idk dude ;-;

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I'll figure smt out! Thanks yall

woven flint
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Hello, friends

glass granite
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I greet the Lord of Goofy!

rugged hawk
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thinkingshogshake Who are you again? ||/j||

severe rampart
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With time, you start to see the same three people in this server, and Nugget is always one of them

blissful ibex
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just part of the furnature nod_purble

severe rampart
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Back to topic, I'm creating my first homebrew item which is "The Deck of Heroes" themed around Greek Gods and Goddess (the good cards) and then Greek Heroes (the bad cards)

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not gonna talk about it extensively so I don't get a wrist slap from a mod though 🙏

hidden spindle
severe rampart
hidden spindle
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Nice. It sounds pretty cool ngl

severe rampart
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-and then at the end of the campaign, they'll meet the fortune teller again, and the deck is actually gonna be the deck of many things-

devout plume
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man after 6 months of searching i still aint found a campaign

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i just wanna play some dnd ;-;

severe rampart
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I've found several campaigns, which... weren't the best so I had to leave them

devout plume
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6 months of posts being ignored or interviews without any follow up

severe rampart
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when in doubt, become the DM

rough basalt
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You think that until you get the really wrong one

devout plume
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honestly at this rate i might just sell my books and call it quits

severe rampart
rough basalt
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DM hitting on you with npcs creepily

hidden spindle
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DM ghosting the table

severe rampart
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the DM not preparing anything, not reading character sheets, or the module, and not setting a direct objective for the group

rough basalt
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Pushover dm that let's his friends do whatever they want

hidden spindle
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Backseat DM's

rough basalt
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The "I just need time to prep" guy who spends all week playing a video game and "didn't have time to prep we'll play next week" every week

devout plume
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look i get it bad dms are bad dms but at least you get to play

rough basalt
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It's not worth it tbh

devout plume
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im not even getting that

rough basalt
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It's miserable playing in bad games

severe rampart
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But I get what you mean Jammer, are you only looking for in-person games?

hidden spindle
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Its like ruining your favorite dish bad

rough basalt
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Yeah I nearly quit dnd due to bad games

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Lost a lot of irl time and took a lot of unnecessary mental health damage playing in bad games.

burnt valley
devout plume
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vtt is optional

rough basalt
severe rampart
devout plume
rough basalt
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Interviews are a good way to route out bad apples

burnt valley
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This ain't a job interview dawg, it aint that serious 😭

devout plume
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i had one up and leave mid interview bc apparently i wasnt a good fit

rough basalt
devout plume
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apparently making mistakes and asking questions on a character sheet wasnt a good look

fair summit
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Someone refusing an interview is definitely one good sign to avoid 😏
Another easy way to weed out players

severe rampart
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I've never been the DM online, but I'm starting to try out VTT options since my friends keep flaking on me in person, so you gotta do what you gotta do

spring glen
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I've never done any interviews for my players I started with 5 and picked up 2 friends from one player

marble lion
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Literally just dont call it interview

rough basalt
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You're asking to be apart of another group of humans partaking in an activity they love and do for fun, to de-stress.

marble lion
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Thats gonna make people nervous

fair summit
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I don't do interviews, but I do have like, a 10 question questionnaire to answer, designed to get some useful info and vibes out of my players though 😏

rough basalt
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And some people do join up for games just to ruin them.

fair summit
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Lot less pressure to answer for the players

devout plume
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literally the first interview i did i was a shaking mess

knotty pasture
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Imagine if you need an interview to join a video game match though

marble lion
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Interviews are associated mostly with 3 things
Job applications
Celebrities
Politicians
All very professional and intimidating for many

rough basalt
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Video game match isn't a long term affair

devout plume
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now i know what im getting into lol

marble lion
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Saying ill talk to you a little and see if we vibe is way better than calling it interview

devout plume
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man i just wanna game some dnd

rough basalt
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A DnD game can be on average a year to conclude.
That's a year you're spending with a group of humans and they have a responsibility to themselves and each other to make sure you aren't gonna make that year hellish for them.

devout plume
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i have hundreds of dollars put into the hobby and 0 campaigns under my belt

marble lion
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Id call it interview maybe but with a giggle

rough basalt
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I usually ask what they like about tabletop

devout plume
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ive dmed oneshots and played 2 westmarches but no campaign

marble lion
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Have you kept in contact with ppl from those?

devout plume
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one westmarch i left

marble lion
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Youve played with more groups than i have lol

rough basalt
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What they like about tabletop can be very telling

spring glen
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Maybe you should DM if your struggling that hard

rough basalt
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Yeah easiest way to play is to dm.

devout plume
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the oneshots were an old friend group

marble lion
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If you dm you might meet ppl into dnd and find a game to join

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Networking!

devout plume
marble lion
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Thats what i plan on doing when i start playing online

rough basalt
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Then gotta wait awhile

spring glen
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Yeah since I don't have full PC access I'm playing a game with my one player

knotty pasture
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The most appealing part of tabletops for me ended up being character creation and number crunching

devout plume
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i wound up having a really rouch panic attack a few months back when i tried dming again

rough basalt
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Only way to get into a game when you want as a player is to pay for paid games.

fair summit
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Half my players have decided to try DMing after running games for them. Starting out as a DM can definitely be a great way to get new players interested in the role, and then get to play yourself, with people you already know 😎

rough basalt
marble lion
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Mine is helping others succeed cheesy as it sounds
Be it helping a player char
Or really play into the DMs plan

rough basalt
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Now I'm pretty fine with dming.
I get nervous starting games but soon as they're going.

marble lion
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I think there is nothing more wonderful than buying into the DMs plan and seeing all the creative depth spring forth

rough basalt
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But yeah after my 1st game as a dm I would have panic attacks and nuke games a few times.

devout plume
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i have 41 dnd books and no one to play with

rough basalt
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Cause of how toxic and screwed up the players were, was a lot worse that they were the group that got me into dnd.

marble lion
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I have uh 2 as xmas presents that i never use for my games

spring glen
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I'm only Missing a few DND books myself

marble lion
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I like having them though. Ill buy more eventually

rough basalt
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I don't use my dnd books that often tbh

devout plume
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over 2k in books

spring glen
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You spent enough money on books to become a DM

rough basalt
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Most of what I'm missing for 5e is just adventure modules

halcyon bison
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I have so many character ideas but not enough campaigns to play them in :<

rough basalt
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Exceptions being new Eberron book and Ravnica

knotty pasture
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May I introduce you to bee gee three dndApprove

spring glen
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I need the new MM the new PHB dragon delves and the 2 adventures in faerun books

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I have everything else from 5e

rough basalt
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The new MM and new DMG see the most use from me

marble lion
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This is when everyone talking about not finding games starts a game together

devout plume
rough basalt
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I'm already dming 2 games I don't wanna dm another tbh

knotty pasture
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Sadge indeed

spring glen
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I only buy physical books

loud tendon
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@wary acorn please check out #find-a-game to learn how our looking for channels work

devout plume
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who would be the dm tho?

marble lion
devout plume
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i run the os and games off of the sd card now

spring glen
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I need a new bookcase for them they are all currently in a box cause of moving

rough basalt
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I got CoS and the Tarrokka deck for it and have not touched it yet

marble lion
rough basalt
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I need a new bookcase as well

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My current one is filled

spring glen
marble lion
rough basalt
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Don't have room for Daggerheart and Shadowdark

devout plume
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bruh...

severe rampart
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Guys... I sense a mod approaching...

devout plume
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we aint even got a dm let alone players XD

devout plume
rough basalt
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You'll have to find someone willing to make the ultimate sacrifice

severe rampart
loud tendon
spring glen
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Mods are always here

rugged hawk
spring glen
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See I told you so

severe rampart
devout plume
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always watching

rough basalt
wary acorn
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@loud tendon when they make campaigns do they all play online?

severe rampart
devout plume
rough basalt
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Speaking of, for my next cart I need to put in Ravnica

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So I can have the last splatbook I'm missing

loud tendon
rough basalt
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Then get to start getting the rest of the adventure books

wary acorn
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K

loud tendon
devout plume
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ig ive got no choice

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if i wanna dungeon some dragons then baby its time for me to make a random oneshot to dm

severe rampart
spring glen
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Go for it you got this!

devout plume
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no take backsies

rough basalt
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One shots are a good way to try and ease back in.

wary acorn
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@devout plume bet

severe rampart
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Beautiful, now, if anyone wants to help me with a homebrew item I'll be lurking in #homebrew

rough basalt
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Also let's you build a group pretty nicely

devout plume
wary acorn
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@devout plume do you allow homebrew? I swear its not broken

spring glen
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Says every broken build ever 😄

rough basalt
severe rampart
devout plume
rugged hawk
devout plume
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i had to talk em down to the fourth level spell pitfall

severe rampart
spring glen
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Yeah I prefer it that way

crimson gulch
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Rolling stats in the first session if we're building charicters togeather is fun

spring glen
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Yeah everyone gets to see all the bad rolls together 😭

rough basalt
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I like PB the most

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But rolled stats can be fun sometimes, and for certain games is part of the fun.

remote wadi
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So

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It was a rocky start with the campaign, but it's starting to come back together

spring glen
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I'm a nice DM and give my players roll 5 drop lowest 2

rough basalt
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If I did rolled I'd just go all in
3d6 in order

spring glen
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3d6 is wild

rugged hawk
timid current
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I mean most people say that the point of rolling is so you can have low rolls "for roleplaying"

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*despite having so many people with custom rolling schema that almost ensure significantly better than point buy ability scores

rough basalt
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But for that I'd probably just play a different system

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Unless I wanna do a hardcore module

remote wadi
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So far, my only concerns are these

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"What happens if a Paladin does things very un-paladinlike? Do they lose their powers or become an Oathbreaker Paladin?"

jovial shadow
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I would never say there is a point to low rolls, under any reason

rough basalt
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Depends on their oath and how they break it

remote wadi
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"Is it normal to come across very few magic weapons in a CoS campaign?"

rough basalt
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A broken oath due to an accident or circumstances won't make you an oathbreaker mechanically. Willingly breaking your oath in pursuit of evil will.

remote wadi
# rough basalt Depends on their oath and how they break it

Oath of Devotion. She apparently got 2 "warnings" from choking and threatening to harm my character (in game, she was adamant about me not wanting this or this not being the real me) and killing off a dying character directly after being unconscious

jovial shadow
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No. Neither Paladins nor Clerics lose their powers for disobedience to any god, oath or otherwise. That's in the PHB and DMG. It does however, imply that the character is being a nuisance and they and the DM should consider a different class or subclass.

rough basalt
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There's enough magic items in barovia, but there isn't an abundance under every rock

knotty pasture
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I knew my hunch was right from yesterday about this Paladin being weird

void crown
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is anyone else getting weird friend requests from people who say they where in this server?

minor cargo
rough basalt
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It's bots or scammers just ignore them

spring glen
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I ignore all friend requests

remote wadi
knotty pasture
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In character sure but it doesn't abide by dnd social etiquette

rugged hawk
void crown
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i been getting ones for like the last 2 months all asking me the same thing not sure if it is a scam or a really weird stalking thing

knotty pasture
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Like how a Selunite Cleric will not fantasize about stabbing a Shar Cleric in their sleep during a campaign

timid current
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I mean they might

remote wadi
knotty pasture
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It makes sense sure but that's also a one way ticket to get kicked if they went through with it

timid current
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religious hypocricy is both common and not a way to get kicked out of a religion

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fantasizing about stabbing someone is different from stabbing them

remote wadi
rough basalt
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Ye people have thoughts they wouldn't act on every day

knotty pasture
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Which they did go through with it in the end by choking your PC lol

timid current
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one can believe in their god whole heartedly and still have thoughts that run counter to dogma. that's what makes a religious character interesting

rugged hawk
remote wadi
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I'm more concerned about what happens if they keep breaking their oath. Is the only outcome being turned into an Oathbreaker Paladin?

timid current
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no

knotty pasture
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Or be forced to switch classes

timid current
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it's "talk to the DM"

remote wadi
remote wadi
# timid current it's "talk to the DM"

DM is aware about this. It's not that Paladin is causing massive problems, just that they're doing a few things a Paladin wouldn't. For example, an NPC who indirectly resulted in the death of my character easily being subdued by the full party, but instead goes out of her way to attack said NPC to make the death saves fail

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And other party members keep insisting this results in becoming an Oathbreaker

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Which, I can't blame them for saying it would be cool (they look awesome visually too), but I'd rather not go down this route, even if the Paladin herself doesn't bother too much about it

empty thicket
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welp, can make punishments to it. Like no recharge spellslots, deny some feature or smt like that.
Still is understandable that some DM dont want to either follow the line all the time

timid current
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they're doing things a paladin would. because they are a paladin and they are doing it

remote wadi
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I think you mean could

timid current
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nope. I mean would. this paladin would.

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we know this, because they have.

severe rampart
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It's so hard to voice a female character, my voice is dying from one practice

still plover
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Their paladin is not your preconception of the class. Their table, their game.

remote wadi
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Would or should implies some obligation or duty. And last I checked, going out of your way to make sure someone stays dead or trying to purge all undead is... yeah

timid current
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at the end of the day, the fiction is what you and the table make. the mechanics are simply mechanics.

atomic kayak
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Those are both frankly, very common paladin things

atomic kayak
jovial shadow
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oh boy

timid current
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telling someone that their holy warrior isn't supposed to kill the bad guy / purge undead is poor table manners

remote wadi
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The Oath of Devotion is mostly focused on needing to fight the good fight and protecting the innocent. Nothing about basically purging all undead under the assumption that they're all evil (especially when one of our party members is a dhampir)

atomic kayak
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Both of those can easily fit into a devotion oath

still plover
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Presume they're playing their character as they want and the DM is on board with it.

timid current
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what if one of the personal applications of the tenet to fighting the good fight is to ensure that the enemy does not recover to do more harm?

remote wadi
atomic kayak
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Also very very very important thing in regards to oaths

The specifics are just as customizable as for any other class or subclass.

You know how you can be a Draconic Sorcerer by having an ancestor who is a dragon? Or by being exposed to a dragon's horde? or being infected with the blood of a dragon?

That customization is what Paladins do for their oaths

jovial shadow
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Sounds more like an Oath of Vengeance

atomic kayak
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So trying to say someone is "playing their character wrong" (which is poor behavior on a number of levels already) about something you are incorrect about (what a specific oath means) is worse

timid current
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I mean you're already homebrewing stuff if you aren't an evil NPC and are a vampire spawn, why is it okay for you to act against preconcieved type and this person isn't?

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Vampire Spawns are neutral evil, he's not wrong unless you're using a homebrew variation

still plover
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Your role in the game is to play your character and engage with the shared fiction.

remote wadi
timid current
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why are you playing a vampire spawn incorrectly by not being evil?

summer tartan
timid current
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yes

fossil hollow
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Theres been many vampire spawn/dhamphir who werent

naive cedar
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they usually are but they dont necessarily have to be

timid current
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yes, you are free to play something outside of what is printed

fossil hollow
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Jander Sunstar's kid comes to mind as well as Astarion

halcyon bison
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Notably, neither paladins nor their oaths are morally perfect, even if they claim to be

remote wadi
timid current
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hold up

naive cedar
timid current
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the argument here is that a paladin who isn't playing the way you expect them to is playing wrong, yet, you playing a vampire spawn the way it is not expected to is right

fossil hollow
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ive always thought that was him being grumpy

naive cedar
atomic kayak
timid current
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it's okay to play a vampire spawn as good.

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what isn't okay is denigrating how someone else plays a character because they aren't playing according to your expectations, while you are indeed playing something against expectations yourself

atomic kayak
tawdry valve
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Anyone have recommendations for a fighter Manikin using Eldritch hunt ruleset?

naive cedar
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alright, i think the issue here is less that the paladin is playing wrong and more that how they're playing the character is causing conflict in the group

remote wadi
# timid current the argument here is that a paladin who isn't playing the way you expect them to...

I don't really care if they murder a problematic NPC or 2 so they don't come back and cause problems

But it's the fact that "all undead are evil" is resulting in the paladin thinking that I am either not myself or did not want to be brought back alive and trying to kill me

Which, Paladin was talked out of, and DM apparently gave a figurative warning about that and then killing Izak
Latter, not a huge deal. But it's a little bit of both former and concern that the party thinks the only outcome of this is Oathbreaker time

atomic kayak
timid current
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well good news, the outcome of a paladin wanting to defeat undead and not automatically trusting that a vampire is not evil is NOT oathbreaking

atomic kayak
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Yea, an Oathbreaker is a very specific thing anyway

timid current
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it can be if that's what the DM and player decide but it's not written into the rules

atomic kayak
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An Oathbreaker is specifically a paladin who specifically breaks their oath for the purpose of following an evil power

fossil hollow
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Not breaking every neat little tenet they have

atomic kayak
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Doing something that might go against a tenet (which again are customizable) does not an oathbreaker make

remote wadi
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Well, whatever the case may be, I'm just glad we managed to talk her out of it

knotty pasture
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Also I like how you're a vampire spawn now, did your dm decide that being a boss class monster is too much

remote wadi
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It is a little bit funny, though. Because Paladin did assume that because they are better equipped to take out undead means that they must kill all undead

By that logic, you can imagine the debacles that could happen from Favored Enemy

timid current
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and truly, vampire spawn are by default neutral evil. it is okay to play against what is written or perceived to be written, but you have to understand that it's oaky for everyone not just you.

atomic kayak
remote wadi
fossil hollow
knotty pasture
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It would have been funny to see you fly around with 10 hp regen at level 5

naive cedar
# atomic kayak As much as I want to say these are separate issues (which on paper, they are) (s...

i wasnt here for the whole convo either admittedly. ive seen plenty of cases of roleplayers (not just in dnd) causing conflict in roleplays due to making their character hate or constantly have conflict with another character and argue that "thats just how the character is". im not saying thats whats happening here however, and the idea that the paladin's dislike of undead is somehow oathbreaking is a bit odd (especially since oathbreakers arent just "paladin who breaks oath", but thats a common misconception)

timid current
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also nothing in devotion says they wouldn't be dedicated to taking down undead. in fact, for a lot of undead killing them is the only way to stop them from doing evil.

naive cedar
fossil hollow
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yeah

timid current
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and again - you being "the only good vampire" surely you are doing that for roleplaying purposes, right? the conflict that comes with being misunderstood and apart from society because you are a blood eating monster

remote wadi
timid current
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a paladin not immediately trusting a vampire is not out of line

knotty pasture
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Oh yeah vampire spawns do have that ability, I kept thinking of Astarion's perks that were relatively bare bones

remote wadi
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Huge difference between "not trusting" and "trying to kill when arriving back to the party"

fossil hollow
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2024 vamps in general seem to have lost Regen

naive cedar
knotty pasture
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Yeah they can spooder climb

fossil hollow
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all vamps can aye

remote wadi
naive cedar
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vampires are just cats

timid current
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honestly if a party member were killed by a vampire and then cam rushing back at the party I'm not about to just trust the party member

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I mean why on earth would you play a vampire character if you want everyone to just assume you're a good guy

fossil hollow
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sweats in my dhamphir character

uncut zenith
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Dhampir =/= vampire

empty thicket
remote wadi
halcyon bison
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Speaking of vampires, I really want to play a dhampir again I really enjoyed it last time

empty thicket
uncut zenith
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In my mind, Dhampir are to vampires as tieflings are to fiends

naive cedar
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dhampir is just the toned down playable version of vampires

uncut zenith
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They have similar features, and one might be related to/descended from the other, but they’re an entirely different thing

fossil hollow
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I do wanna clarify though that my Dhamph is specifically created by a vamp. Has Vampire's Plaything and everything.

naive cedar
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like dragonborn and dragons

fossil hollow
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Based her off a Mananangal

halcyon bison
empty thicket
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Yep, still temu vampire

naive cedar
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hugs all my vampire favs

empty thicket
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My paladin is one, its interesting

fossil hollow
naive cedar
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all vampires born after the second sundering cant regen all they know is spiderclimb, ascend, eat hot chip, and lie

fossil hollow
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2014 vamps at base have regen, and thats after second sundering in general

naive cedar
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you're right and thats my bad

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pretend i said the descent into avernus or something

fossil hollow
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-# || Jander still has Regen||

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I cant wait for my players to reach Avernus, and we havent even started the campaign yet

naive cedar
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once i finally get back into playing dnd im going to play avernus probably

empty thicket
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I just hope dont having to kill any vampire or Goblin in one campaign. It would be soooo uncomfortable

fossil hollow
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why? just curious

empty thicket
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i doubt i will someday have to fight an hippopotamus and same a werewolf

naive cedar
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baldurs gate brainrot

empty thicket
naive cedar
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oh mb

remote wadi
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So TLDR: Those were the problems, most have been sorted out, and I'll talk to the DM later about the specifics for Paladin

fossil hollow
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Ive played characters who had to kill their own members of species

empty thicket
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Cant say something like i do like "take this you lil green cheap version of dwarf with klepto

fossil hollow
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oh.

naive cedar
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my human character killing a human: darn

timid current
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I mean honestly it's better if you don't talk to the DM about the speicifcs for paladin. it's not your character

empty thicket
remote wadi
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As for the other thing: we're close to level 6, and we still haven't come across much magical items. Only a cloak of evasion for the most part during the death house

fossil hollow
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ah, death house

loud tendon
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also lots of secrets

fossil hollow
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Its a Domain of Dread for a reason

uncut zenith
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Yeah, Ravenloft is designed to be grueling for the party

halcyon bison
#

You could say it's... dreadful

atomic kayak
#

I would rather say its. Ravenful

uncut zenith
#

iirc even standard equipment is more expensive in Barovia just by virtue of it being a place where you’re supposed to struggle

crimson gulch
#

Yep, the secret ingredient in barovia is ||suffering||

remote wadi
naive cedar
#

cos is another one i want to play tbh

crimson gulch
#

Curse of strahd is super fun, I'm going to launch a campaign of it soon at the shoppe

empty thicket
#

Any safe way to check if a cloak is something? i was thinking of wear it in the night, hood on and lay down and see if my ally react to it in any way.
The dm might gave me an invisibility cloack and i am thinking some funny way to maybe discover what it does

uncut zenith
#

I personally have a love/hate relationship with CoS

naive cedar
#

i love vampires and suffering

loud tendon
remote wadi
#

The idea is that we are traveling to quite a few areas, but seem so be skimming over quite a few of them, quite unfortunately

As for the secrets mentioned... part of me wants to ask what they are because we could use a little boost to our power
But I also like it being keot a secret

knotty pasture
#

I mean you could just read up the sourcebook yourself lol

#

But that's no different from reading the plot summary of a movie before watching it

halcyon bison
#

Don't do that it's no fun

loud tendon
crimson gulch
#

Going forward without spoilers is a real joy, don't ruin it for yourself

remote wadi
naive cedar
#

tbh if the dm gets a hint that you read the campaign book they'll probably change stuff to throw you off anyways

#

not that you should spoil yourself

uncut zenith
crimson gulch
remote wadi
empty thicket
knotty pasture
#

Honestly this does feel like your only way left to hypercarry if you wanna go down that route

#

If minmaxing doens't work, metagame by reading the sourcebook and plan everything prematurely

uncut zenith
#

Reading ahead also puts you in the awkward position of acting in accordance with the book without taking into consideration how your DM may have changed the campaign.

knotty pasture
#

But at that point what the hell are you doing in the campaign lol

uncut zenith
#

Cuz now your DM may have a suspicion that you read ahead, so you’ve lost a degree of trust

remote wadi
#

Because all we got so far was a cloak of evasion and a potion of thunder resistance instantly drank by the Druid

empty thicket
#

Remember guys, if there is statues in the place but there isnt any Medusa. Dont blink.

uncut zenith
#

I ran Storm King’s Thunder once and I could tell one of my players went out of their way to read ahead in the novel cuz they were hitting very specific targets in the plot like 100% of the time. So now how can I as the DM trust this player to trust me to run a campaign without them feeling the need to read the module ahead of time?

knotty pasture
#

Overreliance on magical items is bad anyways

#

But at the same time I feel like this could have been a great Soulknife campaign

uncut zenith
atomic kayak
knotty pasture
#

The subclass that gets better the more resource-strapped the campaign is

uncut zenith
tawdry valve
#

Anyone here played osteomancer using Eldritch hunt rules? Starting at level 1, wondering what spells I should choose

uncut zenith
#

CoS was a bit of a mess too imo, but not as much as ToD

remote wadi
#

So part of me feels a little concerned for why

knotty pasture
#

LMoP came out before CoS right?

atomic kayak
tawdry valve
empty thicket
#

Just being able to interact with many things at distance without risking yourself its good

#

Knock a door, trigger a trap, etc. etc.
Your limit is the dm and your creativity.

crimson gulch
knotty pasture
#

I dunno if I asked before but its fine to reflavor races into aberrations/monstrosities right

fossil hollow
#

i feel like i need more context

crimson gulch
#

but reflavoring is just changing the presentation without the underlying mechanics

remote wadi
#

Hmmm...

#

So, I do want to ask chat about a plan for the next session

#

Basically, options between killing werewolves or tackling an unrelated quest first for a chance to get loot before taking care of the werewolves

#

My main thing for the plan is thinking if the following plan for taking down werewolves is good enough to take care of now more than later

empty thicket
hidden spindle
#

I vote for loot!

remote wadi
#

Well, specifically

#

There is both a werewolf problem and a wine shortage (supply is long overdue, we must go out to find why) to solve

#

And I think that we could take them out at night

#

The idea is that we can have Paladin cast Light on herself or the Fighter
Meaning that I, the Wizard, and our Druid can stay in the backlines but still have advantage on attack rolls

#

Without needing to stay close to the frontline

severe rampart
#

I vote for loot

remote wadi
#

I'm just trying to see if our party is capable enough to take out werewolves

#

Wizard and Druid don't care about the resistance, i can easily bypass that with silvered stuff

#

Paladin has Divine Smite

And as for Magic Weapon, does the spell also make the weapon magical for overcoming?

empty thicket
#

a bag filled of silver coins.

remote wadi
#

Hmmm

empty thicket
#

or take a silver coin and break it for an arrow tip

remote wadi
#

Probably not possible, but if our Wizard had Heat Metal, would be fun to try to melt silver coins into the weapons

#

Hmm...

#

Actually, that could work very well-

hidden spindle
#

I thought Druid or Bard gets Heat Metal

timid current
#

yeah, you'd need DM approval, heat metal doesn't heat it enough to melt or even affect it structurally

remote wadi
crimson gulch
remote wadi
#

Well, so much for that

remote wadi
#

Does Magic Weapon also make said weapon magical for overcoming?

fossil hollow
#

Yes

#

it literally turns it into one (magical weapon)

remote wadi
#

Good to know

wicked sigil
#

i have an idea for a druid subclass

#

im thinking circle of spores but more into the undead side

#

like necromancy not undead specifically

crimson gulch
#

Necromancy but not undead. That's like sugar but not sweet

remote wadi
#

Okay, next question

#

How does one cure werewolf lycanthropy?

fossil hollow
#

Remove Curse or killing them

crimson gulch
#

Dont take our word for anything on that matter

#

Nothing gets handled more differently from table to table than lycantrhopy in my experience

remote wadi
#

Well, I can at least get basic expectations

wicked sigil
#

Not specifically undead i meant necromancy which includes undead

remote wadi
#

I just want to prepare for our Fighter or a backline getting bit and failing con save

wicked sigil
crimson gulch
remote wadi
#

I could tell, but that is the problem. Having a chance of an extra level would not help us out much defensively

#

Frontline classes will still be at the frontline and closest to the werewolves

devout plume
wary acorn
#

Anyone down to do a campaign?

severe rampart
devout plume
wary acorn
#

Lol fr

remote wadi
#

So then the question becomes
What spells should we prepare for defensive play? As an example, Paladin preparing Shield of Faith

wary acorn
#

I thought it was funny

devout plume
#

it is like watching a car crash and being unable to stop it in time

severe rampart
#

even oneshots need time to simmer until you can serve it up to the players

devout plume
#

the goals did not goal and they started a bar fight

#

in the middle of the royal capital

hoary totem
remote wadi
hoary totem
#

mage armour and shield too

devout plume
#

i was deffo not prepared for that

#

i had this cool underground society planned and stuff

hidden spindle
dark basin
remote wadi
devout plume
bronze wave
#

You direct and redirect until you get whaf is needed your a story yeller

#

Story tell (yell to lol go crazy)

severe rampart
devout plume
bronze wave
hidden spindle
bronze wave
#

I also don’t know follow context whadufuh

devout plume
severe rampart
#

you're excited to play DnD and that's alright, but you should never sacrifice the quality for quantity

devout plume
#

i could barely get a word in myself lol

severe rampart
#

yeah, I've also had a group like that and it wasn't fun at all

inland ridge
#

anyone know of a random d100 table with mundane flowers?

devout plume
#

imma take my time and learn the campaign and everything

stoic haven
#

Is it normal for people to be against having a sorcerer go to Wizarding school? I have seen this trope/taboo a lot, when in all honesty, it doesnt always make sense

crimson gulch
#

nothing about that is normal, thats magical

wicked sigil
#

sorcerers going to wizarding school is like a blind kid going to film school

stoic haven
wicked sigil
stoic haven
#

Innate vs learned seems kind of pointless, as being innately good only gets you so far before you need help

#

Every sorcerer I've made has at least gone to some kind of school, whether it be for bards, wizards, or even a temple service

wicked sigil
#

okok

stoic haven
#

Maybe its just me, but I think people having a taboo against sorcerers going to school is kind of pointless

wicked sigil
#

so do you want a lore dump?

stoic haven
#

Lore dump of what?

wicked sigil
#

basically, sorcerers don't need to go to school, the way magic works is the weave, a theoretical thing that the god of magic upkeeps
wizards deepen their connection to the weave by studying it etc etc
sorcerers are automatically made to be connected to it at birth or major milestone moment
kinda like being a rich kid
someone who is already connected to the weave with other people already trying to connect to it seems kinda redundant

stoic haven
#

Specific D&D lore isnt really what I'm looking for, as I see this trope through different settings, and counterpoint, yiu can be rich, but you won't stay rich if you dont know how to use that money

wicked sigil
#

you can't lose connection to the weave

#

ig if you don't wanna go by the lore then theres no reason to not do what you want

#

im js saying why other people don't do the school thing with sorcerers

lavish flame
#

I've never actually had someone discriminate against Sorcerers in a magic campus setting.

wicked sigil
#

theyre usually really stuck up

#

again, like a rich kid

lavish flame
#

Like idk, I don't think Wizards behave some type of way towards Sorcerers.

wicked sigil
#

depends on the personality

lavish flame
#

I've also never played with someone that did feel that Wizards behaved some type of way towards Sorcerers

uncut zenith
#

I’ve heard of tables who lean into the bit of wizards and sorcerers disliking each other’s ways of learning magic, but I’ve never experienced it in practice at my tables

#

I think it’s one of those tropes that’s more common online than it is at the table

remote wadi
#

So, good news and bad news

#

Good news is, I think there's a way we can take out the werewolves next session without needing a level up or more loot

wanton sorrel
#

the good news... I tpk on most of my characters T_T

empty thicket
remote wadi
#

The bad news is, I'm starting to get a little upset at the Fighter and Wizard

#

They keep trying to say that any significant suggestion I make to the party is "forcing optimization on the party"

#

Like, seriously? We're about to go up against werewolves, and you're telling me I am the problem for suggestion we take Shield of Faith, Remove Curse, and Silvery Barbs?

timid current
#

I mean from what we've seen you seem to be more concerned with how other people play than how you play

hidden spindle
#

I would just worry about yourself

timid current
#

take your foot off the gas fella, just play

fickle heart
#

If you approach D&D such that failure becomes a blame-game, definitely gotta reevaluate your approach.

remote wadi
#

Although, in hindsight

#

...I may have made a bit of a wall of text explaining how things like Druid carrying the bullseye lantern would be for the best

fickle heart
#

So yes, I would say that (repeatedly) making unwarranted suggestions are problematic, and are even more problematic the further you push.

remote wadi
#

So, it might be a bit understandable that they would get upset by that

timid current
#

homie you keep coming onto this public discord complaining that people don't play the way you want. you gotta just let go and let people play

#

I am not privy to your discussions with the table but the way you tell it, and I presume you're telling it to highlight that you feel you're right, it sounds pretty insufferable

timber junco
#

For the 2024 durable feat. Is the speedy recovery "Hit Dice" referring to the dice we use to regen health on short rests?

remote wadi
timid current
#

we had a player who tried to micromanage our table years ago and they are no longer welcome at the table.

fickle heart
hidden spindle
#

The only Spells you control are your own

remote wadi
fickle heart
#

Put another way, if you draw the line where a failure could be avoided, it's entirely fair that someone else draws the line at you not making suggestions to try to control what they do.

#

It's also possible you are just not a good fit for the table.

#

The same could be said about the others, but that more relies on the majority opinion.

remote wadi
#

Talking a bit more to the 2, I can see the problem a bit more, and it's most what I say and how

#

It needs to be a lot shorter in the future

And Fighter assumes that not mentioning him much during planning = sidelining Fighter

fickle heart
#

I think it's also the fact that you are seemingly trying to push people to do stuff, as opposed to trying to actually work with them.

timid current
#

the problem isn't that you put too much cake on the plate, it's that the players don't like your baking.

remote wadi
#

Explained to him that I don't mention him much because it's really hard to make specific preparations when you're character's combat is rushing in and smacking anything we don't like with a hammer

fossil hollow
#

Are there any monsters who have some effect that shows or spreads hunger to those around them? Like some kinda Regional Effect?

timid current
#

let people play

remote wadi
#

Okay, then I guess I should ask this

timid current
#

you don't have to ask anything from us, ask your table

#

"hey do you like it when I try to control how you guys play your characters?"

remote wadi
timid current
#

our opinions don't matter.

remote wadi
#

If some of the party members think we can't take a fight, is it bad that I'm making small suggestions to make said fight easier for us?

timid current
#

we've already told you that trying to control other peoples' play is irritating, annoying, and antisocial. whether we like it or not isn't really relevant to your table.

woeful crystal
#

it is

severe rampart
fickle heart
#

Important context: You are new to D&D, therefore you lack a lot of long-term context that people in the server have who have played the game significantly longer. A lot of people who have a lot more experience in the game are saying that your conduct is considered bad-form, and multiple of them probably have experience with people exhibiting your behavior and later being removed from a group. I would be wary based on that knowledge.

loud tendon
#

We have a player at our table who occasionally tries to tell the rest of what what spells we should take or use in the moment or other things to do and it is super annoying.

They used to do it * a lot*,but the table had a talk with them and asked them to let us run our own characters.
They have gotten better but it still irks me every time

ornate hearth
#

wassup everyone

acoustic goblet
#

Evening everyone

hidden spindle
#

I had a player try to tell another player what to do and pick. Completely taking away that player's choices or character's agency

loud tendon
#

Reading up on another classes spell list or abilities and then trying to queue their actions like they are your team in bg3 is pretty uncool

ornate hearth
#

wait @loud tendon are you a mod

loud tendon
ornate hearth
fossil hollow
#

as Undying said before, Orange are mods, Red are Staff

ornate hearth
loud tendon
# ornate hearth are you chill?

Please dont ping me, I am right here.

Im chill as a mod as long as people are following the rules.

As a community member for d&d I think generally pretty chill.

naive cedar
#

I’m chill rn (it’s minus 15 degrees)

severe rampart
#

Calamity is chill, yeah

ornate hearth
severe rampart
#

as long as you're not an idiot

naive cedar
#

I should clarify that I mean in Celsius

fossil hollow
#

yeah, sucks to work outside in Canada rn. Wish i can just stay inside and play DND all day

wanton sorrel
hidden spindle
fossil hollow
#

thought as much. Guess I only really have stuff like the Scion of Grolantor to work off

#

The idea was that the area around a certain god's avatar just made people near it very greedy and gluttonous

remote wadi
ornate hearth
naive cedar
severe rampart
fickle heart
naive cedar
#

We’re supposed to get a ton of snow around now but it hasn’t stated yet

ornate hearth
severe rampart
#

Also you'd def hate my characters lol, most of them are flavor intensive on the weaker side of actual combat, except my Paladin

hidden spindle
#

I choose feats like Chef. I certainly would like people not to mess with my Spell List other than myself, or "Choose War Caster"

ornate hearth
#

yo whats the most common race for druid usually?

severe rampart
remote wadi
naive cedar
remote wadi
#

Whether Wizard and other will take said advice is unknown for now. They haven't replied

severe rampart
hidden spindle
severe rampart
ornate hearth
naive cedar
#

Fun fact: druid used to be human and half elf exclusive

hidden spindle
fickle heart
#

I will also say that "can we make these preparations...?" is itself a bit ehhh. I think phrasing it like "have we considered...?" would end up being taken better.

fossil hollow
#

what?

hidden spindle
#

I like games like anime but not based off of anything (or expecting heavy homebrew). Fantasy game instead

loud tendon
remote wadi
# severe rampart Yeah it kind of gave off the vibe that you're really really insistent on it

I didn't keep pushing for them to take the advice. It was just a pretty long explanation when it could have been a lot shorter

TLDR: Protection helps with Undead, Remove Curse/Silvery Barbs helps us take less attacks from werewolves and makes curses less likely

Druid is a backline, but doesn't benefit from stealth at a range that much, so she would benefit the most from carrying the Bullseye Bantern

fossil hollow
#

You may have not, but it seemed like it is the point

#

wether or not you intended it to be is kinda moot

hidden spindle
#

"Have we considered Holy Water?"

-# Does Holy Water do anything?

fickle heart
#

The important thing is that, unless the game itself had expectations set very early on that the goal was to heavily strategize, trying to force that strategy on the group can be seen as breaking the social contract.

fossil hollow
#

Against Undead and Fiends, 2d6 Radiant damage

loud tendon
severe rampart
hidden spindle
fossil hollow
remote wadi
severe rampart
#

No we will not make sorbet(not yet)

hidden spindle
#

This I can get behind~

loud tendon
hidden spindle
#

Loot side quest~

remote wadi
#

Basically, I and I believe the Wizard for now

Paladin for later

Fighter and Druid are either undecided or flat out don't care

hidden spindle
#

What happens to a Vampire who's struck with Lycanthropy?

fossil hollow
#

Lycanthropy only works on Humanoids

#

and Vampirism requires the vamp to drain a Humanoid

hidden spindle
#

Ahh... hmm, there's a tiny spot in the MM that's Lycanthropy for nonhumans

fossil hollow
#

Nonhumans. Not Nonhumanoids.

hidden spindle
#

You're right.

It's really too bad the new MM don't have these options

misty vault
#

no autognome werewolves?

fossil hollow
#

Because the new MM turns them into 10 HP statblocks under the DM's control, which i much rather prefer. What I dislike about the 2024 Lycantrhopes is the lack of their Resistances. They didnt even get the Regeneration trait of hte Loup Garou or Wereraven

fossil hollow
misty vault
#

you could add them back in using DM toolskit. Just give them resistance with piercing/slashing/bludgeoning unless it is magic weapon.

remote wadi
#

Okay, so i went back and make a brief TLDR about the situation

fossil hollow
#

I just prefer the Regeneration of the newer, pre-2024 Lycanthropes

#

Regeneration. The loup garou regains 10 hit points at the start of each of its turns. If the loup garou takes damage from a silver weapon, this trait doesn't function at the start of the loup garou's next turn. The loup garou dies only if it starts its turn with 0 hit points and doesn't regenerate.

misty vault
#

that works even better

remote wadi
#

This is paraphrasing, but the general idea is there
Basically, party was a bit divided on our capability of taking out werewolves. I made small suggestions to help our party feel more united about the decision and outlook on us being able to take them out

hidden spindle
#

Wait, they had regen?

You could just give it to them

fossil hollow
#

I dont think anyone's tracking at this point

fossil hollow
hidden spindle
#

I find modified creatures quite fun.

#

Curbs metagaming

fossil hollow
#

i homebrew monsters a lot, gets pretty hard to metagame

#

But when I use a monster as is, its usually either just strong enough as is, or is a mook

hidden spindle
#

Whenever it's a boss, I give'm Legendary Actions. Oh so good.

remote wadi
#

As for the advice, Paladin taking Shield of Faith (turns out, already has it)
Wizard preparing remove curse should we get bitten and cursed
And Fighter being prepared to invoke Fire Runes and asking Paladin for Shield of Faith

cobalt owl
#

Bless is a great spell, I love bless

empty thicket
cobalt owl
#

I don't even modify creatures in the thoughts of metagaming, I just do it because its more fun

empty thicket
#

"An owlbear"
DM: No, A Wereowlbear!!

empty thicket
# spring glen Humans

na, cultist, they lost teh right to be called humans (if they surrender and change their ways i would give my life for them)

knotty pasture
#

Whatever happened to the Cleric woahkitter

hidden spindle
empty thicket
knotty pasture
#

I knew those Clerics of Asmodeus were up to no good

spring glen
empty thicket
severe rampart
remote wadi
hidden spindle
#

Iirc, Were- means "man". So Werewolf means Man Wolf.

empty thicket
#

30% owl 30% wolf and 40% bear for the size

hidden spindle
#

So wereowlbear, man owlbear

empty thicket
#

ooookeeey, a human werewolf//owl//bear

#

Bro need only get bitten by a fish and he will be all terrain

spring glen
#

That's like 4 half's now

empty thicket
#

The magnus opus predator, the human werewolf/owl/bear/shark

misty vault
#

at least it isn't a human man/bear/pig

knotty pasture
#

That just sounds like an Orc Druid

spring glen
#

We need to add in half spider

empty thicket
#

It can fly, its fast like a wolf, thick like a bear, lethal like a shark

empty thicket
hidden spindle
#

I'll believe it when Pigs fly

spring glen
#

More legs

empty thicket
#

Oh yeah, 2 more arms to the giant creature all terrain that can smell you from the atmosphere, hit you like a bullet train flying and finally maul you with his jaws that might be capable of process adamantine at this point

spring glen
#

It will also be able to crawl on walls

empty thicket
#

Considerating the size i doubt there willl be any walls.

spring glen
#

Or maybe it spews web from its butt

misty vault
#

but the important question for some PCs, can we eat it?

severe rampart
knotty pasture
#

Yes

spring glen
#

Eating random creatures since the dawn of time

empty thicket
misty vault
#

awww jeezes

empty thicket
#

For each -5 of that, you are getting a disease.

knotty pasture
#

What if I roll a nat 1

cobalt owl
#

Thats 24 less

empty thicket
spring glen
#

Eating things and rolling a nat 1 is just biting your tongue

misty vault
#

you roll a nat 1, you explode.

#

"Hmm.. this has a slight peppery... flavor to.." Cue spontaneous explosion

spring glen
#

I could go for some spontaneous explosion I need to shovel snow

#

It would really speed up the process of shoveling

empty thicket
#

Allergic to a food? Ate it for accident and rolled a nat1 in the const save for just half damage?
Welp buddy, there will be a departure present.
Pieces of you there, pieces of you over here, pieces of you everywhere.

remote wadi
#

Evolution claims another soul

knotty pasture
#

Tsk'va, did the filthy Ghaik claim another soul, chk

hushed mason
#

Hey @remote wadi have things been better lately?

remote wadi
hushed mason
#

Both? Either?

remote wadi
#

Sessions are going a bit okay-ish. Hoping we find some magic items soon. Pretty scarce for being level 5, even in a CoS campaign

#

Where we left off, we had the choice to take out werewolves for a quest

Or travel more to take care of another quest first

Trying to convince party we have plenty of spells and defensive countermeasures to take out the den

hushed mason
#

Ahh. Magic item finding is a big deal in 5th. I have my party complaining about not being "up to level" with their loot, but (in fact), they just need to sell stuff. They're well equipped.

hoary totem
#

Why is circle of the moon, called circle of the moon? What does better wildshaping have to do with the moon?

knotty pasture
#

The moon helps them attune with wild shaping better ig

naive cedar
#

i figured it was because the moon changes

hushed mason
fossil hollow
hidden spindle
#

The easiest way to out Lycanthropes is during the day~ And investigating

fossil hollow
#

A lot of shapeshifting creatures only come out at night too

hoary totem
hushed mason
#

That's my best guess.

fossil hollow
#

no, its in the flavor text

remote wadi
#

For example, dark vision to take out the den at night, Light Cantrip, great healing and offensive spells.

We just need to change a few spells on the upcoming Long Rest if one of us does get cursed

tall forge
#

I like just giving op magic items constantly

remote wadi
#

Not to mention we have Shield of Faith and Cloud Rune to deflect attacks

tall forge
#

But no bag of holding

remote wadi
#

I just hope we can reach that agreement and take them out next session

wraith sigil
#

Thoughts on having Ai as a game master? Genuinely just curious

misty vault
#

not worth it

timid current
#

boring, wasteful, and bad

fossil hollow
#

Sucks and is a waste of resources

hushed mason
misty vault
#

you want a AI as a game master, play BG3. At least it is more entertaining.

timid current
#

or even better, solasta

wraith sigil
#

Ehh human creativity still on top

timid current
#

well, those games were written by people

fossil hollow
#

sure, but if you want an AI to run a game, might as well let it be a video game (made by people)

misty vault
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what you're really looking forward to is a eldritch horror as a DM.

wraith sigil
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I want that DnD session that got fantasy environment but it got cryptids and eldritch horror as monsters

tall forge
timid current
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for roleplaying, it goes
human dm
video game
nothing
setting your house on fire
AI

misty vault
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was the house on fire because there was a spider?

timid current
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no, I love spiders

inner vapor
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so many channels why am I sweating already

timid current
#

turn on a fan!

tall forge
#

Dnds a social game anyways

timid current
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AI is intrinsically antisocial/anticreative

tall forge
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Mhm

timid current
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and AI is intrinsically social/creative

tall forge
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Basically anti dnd

wraith sigil
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What if its like 3 people and then an Ai dm cuz they cant find someone to DM?

timid current
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the only thing AI does is firehose "content" at you. it's like eating uranium simply because it's got a lot of calories

wraith sigil
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Could one person be a player and be a dm at the same time? I dont think so

timid current
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did you just ping me JUST to ping me

tall forge
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Not exactly immersive

cosmic roostBOT
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No pings, please :pray:

If you see someone with “No Pings” in their name, please don’t @ that user. If you Reply to them, please turn the alert @OFF, and if you forget, a simple apology is appreciated. Thank you!

timid current
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please stop that

wraith sigil
misty vault
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if they keep pinging it is harassment.

tall forge
#

That’s pretty awful

sturdy siren
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its not that hard to find a DM that plays a good game I guess

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You dont need AI for that

remote wadi
humble cairn
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Yay, campaign picked up again since the holidays and I got to break out my Blink Puppy!

tall forge
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Listen, i get the urge to do the complete opposite of what someone says

timid current
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I don't have to worry about it anymore.

tall forge
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But also…. Its not funny at all

timid current
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doesn't matter, let's just move on

remote wadi
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Turns out, we do have a Bullseye lantern, but idk who would be best to carry it

errant haven
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Hello hello

misty vault
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what if you program the AI to be your old Aunt?

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and it can be a Old Aunt AI as the DM.. who always refers to their players with pet nick names... and wants to pinch their cheeks..

wraith sigil
timid current
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you can do whatever you want, if that's using AI that's on you

humble cairn
timid current
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question was just asked if it would be a good DM, we said no. that's all

errant haven
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AI in a campaign?? Why???

remote wadi
tall forge
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Personally, even ignoring the base limitations of AI for dungeon mastering (digital hallucinations, not remembering, etc)

misty vault
#

haullcinations, just like my Aunt.

sturdy siren
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lol

remote wadi
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And while we don't need it, they were asking if we have it. Turns out, we did get it very early on, just no one has used it

tall forge
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It just cant fulfill the sole function of a DM thats most important, which is keeping a group together

timid current
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you can come up with all the "I'm just asking questions" hypotheticals you want, I don't think any of us is interested in entertaining that

wraith sigil
humble cairn
sturdy siren
errant haven
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Don’t ping him

misty vault
#

call a Mod

wraith sigil
remote wadi
sturdy siren
#

Did you try checking around the university and collage communities? They do have some good things going around

humble cairn
humble cairn
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But if the Wizard has Darkvision why do you need the lantern? for the 120ft range?

wraith sigil
remote wadi
errant haven
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My friend and I are writing a campaign atm and we’re trying to incorporate a lot of character backstories into the campaign. It’s hell but it’s gonna be so much fun

sturdy siren
wraith sigil
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Yeahh that makes sense.Thank youu

humble cairn
wraith sigil
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Could one be a DM and a player at the same time thoughhh?

misty vault
#

yes, DMPCs.

remote wadi
sturdy siren
humble cairn
errant haven
wraith sigil
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Ohhh alright then thankyouuu

humble cairn
#

You are a vampire with innate darkvision, yes? If you already have 60ft darkvision, then being a Gloomstalker increases that by 60. So you will have 120ft of darkvision in total.

remote wadi
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That is a good question, I'll brb

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Sent the question to the DM

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And I also remembered that I am invisible against others who rely on dark vision

remote wadi
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But I do need to ask

remote wadi
#

The lantern gives 60 ft bright and 60 dim

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If someone has dark vision, would they be able to see in bright light at 120 feet?

knotty pasture
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Vampire Spawn now apparently

remote wadi
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Or would it not apply due to dark vision being only 60 ft range?

humble cairn
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Where is the person with darkvision in relation to the lantern? How long is their darkvision range?

remote wadi
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Lantern, 60 ft cone of bright light
60 of dim. Would dim be bright if dark vision person is holding lantern? Or would it not apply due to being only 60 ft range for dark vision?

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I'm guessing latter

remote wadi
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Yeah, so it wouldn't

humble cairn
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Oh no, you're right.

remote wadi
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Only to a certain range

humble cairn
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Because the dim light is too far away.

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But that doesn't affect attacks at all.

remote wadi
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Well, yes and no

humble cairn
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It only affects Perception rolls.

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It doesn't impose any detriment to attack rolls.

remote wadi
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Let's just say when we do go to the next bandit camp, I basically want to attack from another zip code

misty vault
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Gloomstalker, casting darkvision on their companions who can't see in the dark and always disrupting the Gloomstalker's sneaky with their light spells or torches.

remote wadi
#

Someone else would need to carry the lantern so I can see them

knotty pasture
#

The Wizard

remote wadi
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Which will be the plan

humble cairn
#

Barring weird angles.

remote wadi
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Especially because they can they can land attacks from very far away thanks to spell sniper

humble cairn
#

If the Wizard is holding the lantern, they will be able to attack all the way out to the end of the dim light with no problem.

remote wadi
#

So let's just say if he wanted to
Upcasted Chromatic Orb would hit from 120 feet away for very good elemental damage

At advantage

humble cairn
#

Because the only thing Dim Light does is impose Disadv on Perception rolls.

remote wadi
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Which that would be pretty scary if you think about it

humble cairn
#

I have just seen how much damage an upcasted Chromatic Orb can do, it's very nice.

misty vault
#

pinball wizard

remote wadi
#

Or if said bandits were by lights of their own like a campfire

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Now we're looking at 240 feet with Fire Bolts

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2d10 Fire Damage for free with advantage

humble cairn
humble cairn
remote wadi
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I know that, yeah

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I just want to know if being able to see where they currently are would negate any darkness between us

spring glen
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I'm going to give my players a large egg to hold onto

misty vault
#

how large is large?

humble cairn
spring glen
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A tarrasque egg

tall forge
humble cairn
misty vault
#

watch the clip on Youtube, a movie called Caveman with Ringo Star where they carry a giant dinosaur egg while being chased by a dinosaur.

remote wadi
humble cairn
spring glen
tall forge
misty vault
#

they're cute AND ugly

spring glen
#

They won't know what it is and that's the point

terse wraith
#

My cleric casted destroy water on a bodyguard and insta killed him

humble cairn
remote wadi
spring glen
remote wadi
tall forge
spring glen
remote wadi
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Ergo, I would be able to see dim light 180 feet away

tall forge
#

Those things are pretty ugly

humble cairn
tall forge
spring glen
#

I think spiders are cute your not going to get me

remote wadi
tall forge
spring glen
humble cairn
tall forge
#

But baby pelicans are colloquially known as something i cant even say in this server

knotty pasture
#

As always it comes back down to "Ask your DM"

remote wadi
humble cairn
remote wadi
tall forge
#

Well no one is 110% raw

humble cairn
tall forge
#

Hopefully….

humble cairn
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Right, because the rules making it against the rules to see the stars or moon at night are a bit silly, if fully RAW.

tall forge
#

Or the vast amount of cheese you can pull off, even in 2024

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Ie. Warcaster + opportunity attack + haste/cure wounds/any support spell

jovial shadow
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If something isn't fully RAW and you need answers to a hypothetical, it's best to ask your DM than strangers on Discourse

tall forge
#

Doing both tho is kinda pointless if its a homeruling thing

humble cairn
# remote wadi I try to do both. Which i am

I would count on 180ft if the conditions are just right, most fights don't give you that much more need for range anyway. But also, don't count on your Wizard friend always having the lantern pointed in the direction that is 100% optimal for you.

tall forge
#

End of the day, up to the dm

remote wadi
spring glen
#

I'm a fairly laid back DM I keep things mostly raw till my players want something changed then it's group vote

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At the end of the day I like my players to have fun

humble cairn
gilded wyvern
#

Testing the words

evil campaign

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well @supple nexus it wasn't "evil" so I don't know blob_shrug

supple nexus
#

lol

remote wadi
humble cairn
remote wadi
tall forge
#

I do RAI, with rule of cool

humble cairn
#

Ahh Charm tanking, I missed it.

dense gulch
#

Can you voluntarily lose a saving throw

hot gate
#

In the 2014 rules: no. In the 2024 rules: yes

dense gulch
#

Yes good as I am thinking about playing a scaredy cat reluctant adventurer fighter

I was going to dump charisma since that make the most sense for a scaredy cat but then I look
Fear spell Is a wisdom save
And succeeding that make no sense

frosty lion
#

Hello everyone~! I'm hoping to run a 5e campaign involving historical real world elements (Gnostic religions and naturalistic sciences mixed with the classic fantasy elements).
If anyone is interested, feel free to reach out; I would love to start with a solo session in order to give your character a bit of a background when we meet for the group sessions; plus the solo dungeon may have epic loots ;3

livid echo
#

This may be crazy but I asked Alexa yes that Alexa from Amazon if she could facilitate as game master one shots for me or me and a group using 2024 rulebook and she said yes very easily

I will try this tomorrow and update y’all on how well this works

If this works well it will be a game changer for those wanting to play but are either too nervous for group play or physically can’t make it to a group

Fingers crossed this works

dense gulch
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What did you ask

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I just ask and it said idk what you mean by that

misty vault
#

Alexa, be a dungeon master but with a eastern European accent and try to include at the end of each sentence, "I am the land. Blah blah blah."

hot gate
warm cloud
#

that’s not surprising

dense gulch
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It says I not quite sure how to help you with that

livid echo
#

I am using the new in beta Alex’s + it is a lot smarter than the old Alexa

I doubt it will work well but it’s worth a try

bronze wave
livid echo
#

Have to buy a brand new Alexa like Alexa show I bought the fire cube which is part fire tv stick part Alexa dot

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It won’t work on dots or regular Alexa devices

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But it’s so awesome

rocky glacier
#

yoo

dense gulch
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Aww I swear she getting dumber and dumber

rocky glacier
#

so is everyone here like cracked at dnd

hot gate
#

That's one way to phrase it, sure

livid echo
#

Anyways this is a dnd discord I won’t get into weeds on Alexa I will just let y’all know how well it works it’s very possible it may work well

Anyways I’m off to bed goodnight and I’ll update y’all tomorrow if it works

misty vault
#

we're jive turkeys berk, at playing math rocks and imaginary chummers in dank dark dungeons.

misty vault
#

I'm trying to talk slang. Did it work?

sturdy siren
#

we're jive turkeys berk, no idea what u mean here

woven flint
echo shoal
#

Hi!

dense gulch
rocky glacier
#

ngl what do u even do at lvl 20

sturdy siren
#

fight against Hadar

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try to go against Mechanus and be attorneys at law

reef tundra
#

But then the DM will finally realise they don’t need to balance the combat anymore

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Then all hell breaks loose

rocky glacier
final merlin
#

Hihii

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FEAR ANS HUNGER FAN

sturdy siren
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its all good and fun until dm comes to session with an extra bag of minies

reef tundra
final merlin
#

Hail sulphur god

reef tundra
#

But damn it was fun

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Our characters were grand, hailed heroes

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I played a fallen warlord

final merlin
#

I lwk never played dnd

reef tundra
#

There was just one problem - the DM.

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We didn’t once have combat

reef tundra
final merlin
rocky glacier
reef tundra
final merlin
glass granite
reef tundra
rocky glacier
final merlin
woven flint
#

Did I tell you folks about my Wonderous Three Crit Steel Wind Strike today? I can't remember lol

reef tundra
final merlin
woven flint
#

I'm never getting three crits in a row ever again in my life 😔

reef tundra
final merlin
#

But I think I'm more of a ranger

reef tundra
final merlin
#

Ahh what's that is it subclass of monk or barbarian? Idrk subclasses other than rangers

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😭 pardon my stupidity