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My parents won't let me
Oh ok! Sorry
I just wanted to say that sword was really cool :p
You can't play a game with friends? Have you actually talked to them about it?
Maybe even watch https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPjdPog_vKX3zZa6R_R9nE7m2V-0WrAaY&themeRefresh=1 with them (family friendly D&D game/campaign - it's actually pretty fun!)
I asked my mom if I could ever do anything with dnd and she said no but in a meaner way :/
Sorry to hear that. Well sometimes finding time to play D&D is a matter of stage of life...
I hope that someday you'll have the wonderful fun of playing D&D with a great group
I plan to! I'll probably do it soon as well... They can't really do anything if I play
They'll be upset but when are they not :^
Well I mean I'd at least be reasonable about it and not try and purposefully annoy your guardians over it.
D&D is a game and it's not worth ruining relationships over it.
If they didn't wanna ruin their relationship, they'd support D&D 
I understand that- yeah- But I can't do drama or anything "nerdy." I actually can do this
Sometimes you have to give folks time and gentle nudges of information...
Plus Ive had 3 DIFFERENT groups ask me to play and Ive had to say no. Its kinda ruinin my friendship if ya think about it /hj
I understand tho, I get whatcha mean. Ill continue watching my podcast and survive (:^
I'm of the opinion that if guardians are perpetually disappointed / irritated to begin with, it's better to just do what makes you happy since they won't be regardless. 
Hello, friends
I greet the Lord of Goofy!
Who are you again? ||/j||
With time, you start to see the same three people in this server, and Nugget is always one of them
just part of the furnature 
Back to topic, I'm creating my first homebrew item which is "The Deck of Heroes" themed around Greek Gods and Goddess (the good cards) and then Greek Heroes (the bad cards)
not gonna talk about it extensively so I don't get a wrist slap from a mod though 🙏
talked about it there^
Nice. It sounds pretty cool ngl
-and then at the end of the campaign, they'll meet the fortune teller again, and the deck is actually gonna be the deck of many things-
man after 6 months of searching i still aint found a campaign
i just wanna play some dnd ;-;
it will be all worth it when you find the right one for you
I've found several campaigns, which... weren't the best so I had to leave them
i dont care about "right one" atp i just wanna play
6 months of posts being ignored or interviews without any follow up
when in doubt, become the DM
You think that until you get the really wrong one
honestly at this rate i might just sell my books and call it quits
The DMPC main character fantasy
DM hitting on you with npcs creepily
DM ghosting the table
the DM not preparing anything, not reading character sheets, or the module, and not setting a direct objective for the group
Pushover dm that let's his friends do whatever they want
Backseat DM's
The "I just need time to prep" guy who spends all week playing a video game and "didn't have time to prep we'll play next week" every week
look i get it bad dms are bad dms but at least you get to play
It's not worth it tbh
im not even getting that
It's miserable playing in bad games
But I get what you mean Jammer, are you only looking for in-person games?
Its like ruining your favorite dish bad
Yeah I nearly quit dnd due to bad games
Lost a lot of irl time and took a lot of unnecessary mental health damage playing in bad games.
nope over discord
Wait what, you needed an interview just to join a campaign?
vtt is optional
This is pretty normal
a lot of posts do that here in the LFG channels
every one that the person actually responded on
Interviews are a good way to route out bad apples
This ain't a job interview dawg, it aint that serious 😭
i had one up and leave mid interview bc apparently i wasnt a good fit
It is that serious
apparently making mistakes and asking questions on a character sheet wasnt a good look
Someone refusing an interview is definitely one good sign to avoid 😏
Another easy way to weed out players
I've never been the DM online, but I'm starting to try out VTT options since my friends keep flaking on me in person, so you gotta do what you gotta do
I've never done any interviews for my players I started with 5 and picked up 2 friends from one player
Literally just dont call it interview
You're asking to be apart of another group of humans partaking in an activity they love and do for fun, to de-stress.
Thats gonna make people nervous
I don't do interviews, but I do have like, a 10 question questionnaire to answer, designed to get some useful info and vibes out of my players though 😏
And some people do join up for games just to ruin them.
Lot less pressure to answer for the players
literally the first interview i did i was a shaking mess
Imagine if you need an interview to join a video game match though
Interviews are associated mostly with 3 things
Job applications
Celebrities
Politicians
All very professional and intimidating for many
Video game match isn't a long term affair
now i know what im getting into lol
Saying ill talk to you a little and see if we vibe is way better than calling it interview
man i just wanna game some dnd
A DnD game can be on average a year to conclude.
That's a year you're spending with a group of humans and they have a responsibility to themselves and each other to make sure you aren't gonna make that year hellish for them.
i have hundreds of dollars put into the hobby and 0 campaigns under my belt
Id call it interview maybe but with a giggle
I usually ask what they like about tabletop
Don't give up
ive dmed oneshots and played 2 westmarches but no campaign
Have you kept in contact with ppl from those?
one westmarch i left
Youve played with more groups than i have lol
What they like about tabletop can be very telling
Maybe you should DM if your struggling that hard
Yeah easiest way to play is to dm.
the oneshots were an old friend group
not happening again too much stress
Thats what i plan on doing when i start playing online
Then gotta wait awhile
Yeah since I don't have full PC access I'm playing a game with my one player
The most appealing part of tabletops for me ended up being character creation and number crunching
i wound up having a really rouch panic attack a few months back when i tried dming again
Only way to get into a game when you want as a player is to pay for paid games.
Half my players have decided to try DMing after running games for them. Starting out as a DM can definitely be a great way to get new players interested in the role, and then get to play yourself, with people you already know 😎
I went through this.
It's rough.
Mine is helping others succeed cheesy as it sounds
Be it helping a player char
Or really play into the DMs plan
Now I'm pretty fine with dming.
I get nervous starting games but soon as they're going.
I think there is nothing more wonderful than buying into the DMs plan and seeing all the creative depth spring forth
But yeah after my 1st game as a dm I would have panic attacks and nuke games a few times.
i have 41 dnd books and no one to play with
Cause of how toxic and screwed up the players were, was a lot worse that they were the group that got me into dnd.
I have uh 2 as xmas presents that i never use for my games
I'm only Missing a few DND books myself
I like having them though. Ill buy more eventually
I don't use my dnd books that often tbh
over 2k in books
You spent enough money on books to become a DM
Most of what I'm missing for 5e is just adventure modules
I have so many character ideas but not enough campaigns to play them in :<
Exceptions being new Eberron book and Ravnica
same
May I introduce you to bee gee three 
I need the new MM the new PHB dragon delves and the 2 adventures in faerun books
I have everything else from 5e
The new MM and new DMG see the most use from me
This is when everyone talking about not finding games starts a game together
no space on my sd card gigasadge
I'm already dming 2 games I don't wanna dm another tbh
Sadge indeed
I only buy physical books
i like that idea
@wary acorn please check out #find-a-game to learn how our looking for channels work
who would be the dm tho?
2k in books but no ssd? Ooof
my storage on my steam deck played out
i run the os and games off of the sd card now
I need a new bookcase for them they are all currently in a box cause of moving
I got CoS and the Tarrokka deck for it and have not touched it yet
you could dm frfr
Be the book case you dont have
Eat them
That's too much fiber
I thought about it but now is a bad time
Don't have room for Daggerheart and Shadowdark
bruh...
Guys... I sense a mod approaching...
we aint even got a dm let alone players XD
theyre right behind us arent they
You'll have to find someone willing to make the ultimate sacrifice
that'd be the dream, unfortunately I am a broke student
I've always been here.
Mods are always here
Ehhhh, I'm not a great fit for DMing. Too lazy to make or keep detailed maps, particularly. I use some pre-existing maps of various regions that have relevant locales, but I treat travel much less as marking a trail on a map, but instead more of 'I want to go from here to this other spot' and figure out what's in between as I go.
See I told you so
Gazooks! ruh roh! everyone scatter
always watching
Yeah I got somewhere around 20 to 30 5e books, and other systems books and extra books, then actual storybooks like Legend of Drizzt novels and stuff
@loud tendon when they make campaigns do they all play online?
The DnD books here go for around 2-3k+ unfortunately
since you decided to join us im pulling you into the chat get yoinked
Speaking of, for my next cart I need to put in Ravnica
So I can have the last splatbook I'm missing
many that would be advertised here I would expect to be played online. Places like Local Game Stores, reddit, local facebook pages, libraries and universities would be more in person.
Then get to start getting the rest of the adventure books
K
please don't do that. I am here, you don't need to ping me.. I get a lot of pings I need to focus on
mannnnn im bored are you busy?
ig ive got no choice
if i wanna dungeon some dragons then baby its time for me to make a random oneshot to dm
That's the spirit! I also am doing that
Go for it you got this!
One shots are a good way to try and ease back in.
@devout plume bet
Beautiful, now, if anyone wants to help me with a homebrew item I'll be lurking in #homebrew
Also let's you build a group pretty nicely
sounds like maybe youre interested?
@devout plume do you allow homebrew? I swear its not broken
Says every broken build ever 😄
Not too much. I'm content with complaining that I wanna play.
- the very very small white text on white background thing saying they gain +10 in all Ability Checks
Also I somehow rolled all 6s
bro wants to make sinkholes in dnd
Mood
Somehow,
returned!
i had to talk em down to the fourth level spell pitfall
It's why I don't roll stats until the DM is present
Yeah I prefer it that way
Rolling stats in the first session if we're building charicters togeather is fun
Yeah everyone gets to see all the bad rolls together 😭
I like PB the most
But rolled stats can be fun sometimes, and for certain games is part of the fun.
I'm a nice DM and give my players roll 5 drop lowest 2
If I did rolled I'd just go all in
3d6 in order
3d6 is wild
No no, what you wanna do is something like Consuming Chasm, and drop them into a pitfall lined with hungry teeth that goes straight into the Abyss 
I mean most people say that the point of rolling is so you can have low rolls "for roleplaying"
*despite having so many people with custom rolling schema that almost ensure significantly better than point buy ability scores
But for that I'd probably just play a different system
Unless I wanna do a hardcore module
So far, my only concerns are these
"What happens if a Paladin does things very un-paladinlike? Do they lose their powers or become an Oathbreaker Paladin?"
I would never say there is a point to low rolls, under any reason
Depends on their oath and how they break it
"Is it normal to come across very few magic weapons in a CoS campaign?"
A broken oath due to an accident or circumstances won't make you an oathbreaker mechanically. Willingly breaking your oath in pursuit of evil will.
Oath of Devotion. She apparently got 2 "warnings" from choking and threatening to harm my character (in game, she was adamant about me not wanting this or this not being the real me) and killing off a dying character directly after being unconscious
No. Neither Paladins nor Clerics lose their powers for disobedience to any god, oath or otherwise. That's in the PHB and DMG. It does however, imply that the character is being a nuisance and they and the DM should consider a different class or subclass.
As for this, kinda
There's enough magic items in barovia, but there isn't an abundance under every rock
I knew my hunch was right from yesterday about this Paladin being weird
is anyone else getting weird friend requests from people who say they where in this server?
I think these questions being asked by the character(s) (internally or not) is a great tension to resolve in game.
Like there’s a lot of context to unpack in just “unpaladinlike”. Great stuff to unpack as part of play.
It's bots or scammers just ignore them
I ignore all friend requests
It was entirely in character, though. She did relent after some time and made the understandable remark that It would probably not end well if I willingly attacked any innocents
In character sure but it doesn't abide by dnd social etiquette
Wait, what? Clerics have to literally pray to their deity for spells to be handed out.
i been getting ones for like the last 2 months all asking me the same thing not sure if it is a scam or a really weird stalking thing
Like how a Selunite Cleric will not fantasize about stabbing a Shar Cleric in their sleep during a campaign
I mean they might
Reminds me of a funny remark I heard about Clerics vs Warlocks
It makes sense sure but that's also a one way ticket to get kicked if they went through with it
religious hypocricy is both common and not a way to get kicked out of a religion
fantasizing about stabbing someone is different from stabbing them
Paladin in question was obviously paranoid that this could be another trap by Strahd and was quickly assured that either wasn't the case or it was unlikely either way
Ye people have thoughts they wouldn't act on every day
Which they did go through with it in the end by choking your PC lol
one can believe in their god whole heartedly and still have thoughts that run counter to dogma. that's what makes a religious character interesting
Warlocks can, in some instances, receive powers from beings who literally can't perceive them or even notice they're granting power.
Like Great Old Ones, for instance.
I'm more concerned about what happens if they keep breaking their oath. Is the only outcome being turned into an Oathbreaker Paladin?
no
Or be forced to switch classes
it's "talk to the DM"
Not saying they can't. But the remark in question is a joke probably not best for here
DM is aware about this. It's not that Paladin is causing massive problems, just that they're doing a few things a Paladin wouldn't. For example, an NPC who indirectly resulted in the death of my character easily being subdued by the full party, but instead goes out of her way to attack said NPC to make the death saves fail
And other party members keep insisting this results in becoming an Oathbreaker
Which, I can't blame them for saying it would be cool (they look awesome visually too), but I'd rather not go down this route, even if the Paladin herself doesn't bother too much about it
welp, can make punishments to it. Like no recharge spellslots, deny some feature or smt like that.
Still is understandable that some DM dont want to either follow the line all the time
they're doing things a paladin would. because they are a paladin and they are doing it
I think you mean could
It's so hard to voice a female character, my voice is dying from one practice
Their paladin is not your preconception of the class. Their table, their game.
Would or should implies some obligation or duty. And last I checked, going out of your way to make sure someone stays dead or trying to purge all undead is... yeah
at the end of the day, the fiction is what you and the table make. the mechanics are simply mechanics.
Those are both frankly, very common paladin things
like, generic paladin things. These quite literally a whole subclass about the first one (multiple, depending on how you look at it)
oh boy
telling someone that their holy warrior isn't supposed to kill the bad guy / purge undead is poor table manners
The Oath of Devotion is mostly focused on needing to fight the good fight and protecting the innocent. Nothing about basically purging all undead under the assumption that they're all evil (especially when one of our party members is a dhampir)
Both of those can easily fit into a devotion oath
Presume they're playing their character as they want and the DM is on board with it.
what if one of the personal applications of the tenet to fighting the good fight is to ensure that the enemy does not recover to do more harm?
That's the problem. It's not us telling them to avoid killing the BBEG or obvious monsters
It's trying to also assume I am inherently evil because I'm a vampire spawn now
Also very very very important thing in regards to oaths
The specifics are just as customizable as for any other class or subclass.
You know how you can be a Draconic Sorcerer by having an ancestor who is a dragon? Or by being exposed to a dragon's horde? or being infected with the blood of a dragon?
That customization is what Paladins do for their oaths
Sounds more like an Oath of Vengeance
So trying to say someone is "playing their character wrong" (which is poor behavior on a number of levels already) about something you are incorrect about (what a specific oath means) is worse
I mean you're already homebrewing stuff if you aren't an evil NPC and are a vampire spawn, why is it okay for you to act against preconcieved type and this person isn't?
Vampire Spawns are neutral evil, he's not wrong unless you're using a homebrew variation
Your role in the game is to play your character and engage with the shared fiction.
Because said enemy was more after another NPC than us specifically. We just happened to be in the way
Although it does make a little sense to do that, given that leaving him alive meant all of the guards being after me, Paladin, and Wizard
But at the same time, I wasn't the one who gave that figurative warning for that
why are you playing a vampire spawn incorrectly by not being evil?
Are they inherently evil?
yes
Theres been many vampire spawn/dhamphir who werent
they usually are but they dont necessarily have to be
yes, you are free to play something outside of what is printed
Jander Sunstar's kid comes to mind as well as Astarion
Notably, neither paladins nor their oaths are morally perfect, even if they claim to be
Because being a vampire spawn isn't immediately being evil. It just means my character was resurrected by that and now has to deal with a massive blood craving while helping out the party
hold up
tbf astarion is def evil at the beginning of the game and depending on certain choices
the argument here is that a paladin who isn't playing the way you expect them to is playing wrong, yet, you playing a vampire spawn the way it is not expected to is right
ive always thought that was him being grumpy
its both
This is somewhat definitional of being hypocritical
it's okay to play a vampire spawn as good.
what isn't okay is denigrating how someone else plays a character because they aren't playing according to your expectations, while you are indeed playing something against expectations yourself
"I am allowed to play something differently than an assumed default but somebody else is not allowed to do the same"
Anyone have recommendations for a fighter Manikin using Eldritch hunt ruleset?
alright, i think the issue here is less that the paladin is playing wrong and more that how they're playing the character is causing conflict in the group
Reach and range weapons
I don't really care if they murder a problematic NPC or 2 so they don't come back and cause problems
But it's the fact that "all undead are evil" is resulting in the paladin thinking that I am either not myself or did not want to be brought back alive and trying to kill me
Which, Paladin was talked out of, and DM apparently gave a figurative warning about that and then killing Izak
Latter, not a huge deal. But it's a little bit of both former and concern that the party thinks the only outcome of this is Oathbreaker time
As much as I want to say these are separate issues (which on paper, they are) (since while I wasn't here for the entire conversation, from what I've seen), I don't think they are. The latter seems to very heavily be coming from people saying the former.
well good news, the outcome of a paladin wanting to defeat undead and not automatically trusting that a vampire is not evil is NOT oathbreaking
Yea, an Oathbreaker is a very specific thing anyway
it can be if that's what the DM and player decide but it's not written into the rules
An Oathbreaker is specifically a paladin who specifically breaks their oath for the purpose of following an evil power
Not breaking every neat little tenet they have
Doing something that might go against a tenet (which again are customizable) does not an oathbreaker make
Well, whatever the case may be, I'm just glad we managed to talk her out of it
Also I like how you're a vampire spawn now, did your dm decide that being a boss class monster is too much
It is a little bit funny, though. Because Paladin did assume that because they are better equipped to take out undead means that they must kill all undead
By that logic, you can imagine the debacles that could happen from Favored Enemy
and truly, vampire spawn are by default neutral evil. it is okay to play against what is written or perceived to be written, but you have to understand that it's oaky for everyone not just you.
i'm not really sure what this statement means, especially not in context
Being a vampire was just me once again unknowingly choosing my words poorly because something else exists for that synonym
i assume it has something to do with the joke that favored enemy is racism powering you or something
It would have been funny to see you fly around with 10 hp regen at level 5
i wasnt here for the whole convo either admittedly. ive seen plenty of cases of roleplayers (not just in dnd) causing conflict in roleplays due to making their character hate or constantly have conflict with another character and argue that "thats just how the character is". im not saying thats whats happening here however, and the idea that the paladin's dislike of undead is somehow oathbreaking is a bit odd (especially since oathbreakers arent just "paladin who breaks oath", but thats a common misconception)
also nothing in devotion says they wouldn't be dedicated to taking down undead. in fact, for a lot of undead killing them is the only way to stop them from doing evil.
is this another one of those old reddit dnd jokes
yeah
and again - you being "the only good vampire" surely you are doing that for roleplaying purposes, right? the conflict that comes with being misunderstood and apart from society because you are a blood eating monster
I still have that HP regen, but it is mostly what I thought it was before
Start of turn, healing amount is player level, maximum healed per turn and healing stops when I am at 10 HP
a paladin not immediately trusting a vampire is not out of line
Oh yeah vampire spawns do have that ability, I kept thinking of Astarion's perks that were relatively bare bones
Huge difference between "not trusting" and "trying to kill when arriving back to the party"
2024 vamps in general seem to have lost Regen
they can also spider climb right?
Yeah they can spooder climb
all vamps can aye
Mostly that light regen, Spider Crawl, and the 4 resistances are the upsides
vampires are just cats
honestly if a party member were killed by a vampire and then cam rushing back at the party I'm not about to just trust the party member
I mean why on earth would you play a vampire character if you want everyone to just assume you're a good guy
sweats in my dhamphir character
Dhampir =/= vampire
True, but there is some beauty in a dark creature wanting to be good, denying his dark nature.
They weren't killed by a vampire. I was killed by a fireball and surviving guard. When I got back to the party, I only had the 2 puncture wounds as any outside injury
Speaking of vampires, I really want to play a dhampir again I really enjoyed it last time
Temu vampire 
In my mind, Dhampir are to vampires as tieflings are to fiends
dhampir is just the toned down playable version of vampires
They have similar features, and one might be related to/descended from the other, but they’re an entirely different thing
I do wanna clarify though that my Dhamph is specifically created by a vamp. Has Vampire's Plaything and everything.
like dragonborn and dragons
Based her off a Mananangal
Yeah cause vampires are cool
Yep, still temu vampire
My paladin is one, its interesting
eh, more spawn. Unless you just mean anything that isnt a full on vampire progen is a temu vamp
all vampires born after the second sundering cant regen all they know is spiderclimb, ascend, eat hot chip, and lie
2014 vamps at base have regen, and thats after second sundering in general
-# || Jander still has Regen||
I cant wait for my players to reach Avernus, and we havent even started the campaign yet
once i finally get back into playing dnd im going to play avernus probably
I just hope dont having to kill any vampire or Goblin in one campaign. It would be soooo uncomfortable
why? just curious
i doubt i will someday have to fight an hippopotamus and same a werewolf
baldurs gate brainrot
my paladin is a dhampir, my artificer is a goblin
oh mb
So TLDR: Those were the problems, most have been sorted out, and I'll talk to the DM later about the specifics for Paladin
Ive played characters who had to kill their own members of species
Cant say something like i do like "take this you lil green cheap version of dwarf with klepto
oh.
my human character killing a human: darn
I mean honestly it's better if you don't talk to the DM about the speicifcs for paladin. it's not your character

Na, they wont mind, it will be all good
As for the other thing: we're close to level 6, and we still haven't come across much magical items. Only a cloak of evasion for the most part during the death house
ah, death house
Barovia can be a little light on the magic items.. there are lots of places to go and lots of misery.
also lots of secrets
Its a Domain of Dread for a reason
Yeah, Ravenloft is designed to be grueling for the party
You could say it's... dreadful
I would rather say its. Ravenful
iirc even standard equipment is more expensive in Barovia just by virtue of it being a place where you’re supposed to struggle
Yep, the secret ingredient in barovia is ||suffering||
I want to tell you and others details so far. Should I go to another channel for it or just use spoiler tags?
cos is another one i want to play tbh
Curse of strahd is super fun, I'm going to launch a campaign of it soon at the shoppe
Any safe way to check if a cloak is something? i was thinking of wear it in the night, hood on and lay down and see if my ally react to it in any way.
The dm might gave me an invisibility cloack and i am thinking some funny way to maybe discover what it does
I personally have a love/hate relationship with CoS
i love vampires and suffering
I really don't have any other input on the matter..
if you feel like on magic items, talk to the DM.. I wouldn't concern yourself with how other players play their character, let the DM handle that if they don't like it. If it negatively affects the party or players out of character, then you could talk to that player and see whats up.
The idea is that we are traveling to quite a few areas, but seem so be skimming over quite a few of them, quite unfortunately
As for the secrets mentioned... part of me wants to ask what they are because we could use a little boost to our power
But I also like it being keot a secret
safest way is Identify
I mean you could just read up the sourcebook yourself lol
But that's no different from reading the plot summary of a movie before watching it
Don't do that it's no fun
I wouldn't tell you any of the secrets even if you asked. that would be meta gaming and I don't do that.
Going forward without spoilers is a real joy, don't ruin it for yourself
For the most part, I'm chill when it comes to that. This latest session was just one that would have affected me a good chunk
tbh if the dm gets a hint that you read the campaign book they'll probably change stuff to throw you off anyways
not that you should spoil yourself
Or for everybody else in the group
Agreed, don't read the campaign book is actually one of my table rules
Well, of course. That's mostly why I would avoid spoilers
The only smidge of resistance is that for a level 5 party, we have good character synergy, but still not the best equipment
damn, will see if my arti have it or no. Still i can ask her to get it, for me she jumped from lvl 3 to 7 
she ca at least help me in that
Honestly this does feel like your only way left to hypercarry if you wanna go down that route
If minmaxing doens't work, metagame by reading the sourcebook and plan everything prematurely
Reading ahead also puts you in the awkward position of acting in accordance with the book without taking into consideration how your DM may have changed the campaign.
But at that point what the hell are you doing in the campaign lol
Cuz now your DM may have a suspicion that you read ahead, so you’ve lost a degree of trust
I thought we talked about me not wanting to hypercarry several times before
I don't want to be the constant MVP. Just a ljttle concerned over the previous scarcity of magic weapons
Because all we got so far was a cloak of evasion and a potion of thunder resistance instantly drank by the Druid
that is the best part of playing with new players, they have almost no clue of most things so you can add a lot more fantasy, mystery and adventure
Remember guys, if there is statues in the place but there isnt any Medusa. Dont blink.
I ran Storm King’s Thunder once and I could tell one of my players went out of their way to read ahead in the novel cuz they were hitting very specific targets in the plot like 100% of the time. So now how can I as the DM trust this player to trust me to run a campaign without them feeling the need to read the module ahead of time?
Overreliance on magical items is bad anyways
But at the same time I feel like this could have been a great Soulknife campaign
Depends on what you mean by “overreliance”, because the game does assume that the DM is handing out plenty of magic items for the party
Being entirely honest I don't think CoS, on paper, is really anything special (or even necessarily good).
Its just one of the first 5e adventures so its one of the main ones that people will have seen.
The subclass that gets better the more resource-strapped the campaign is
If anything, it’s the first good 5E campaign. Cuz prior to that it was ToD, which was a mess
Anyone here played osteomancer using Eldritch hunt rules? Starting at level 1, wondering what spells I should choose
CoS was a bit of a mess too imo, but not as much as ToD
2 things can be true at the same time though. We're not relying on magical items to perform well, but it's been close to 2 months, and we only got 2-3 small magic items so far
So part of me feels a little concerned for why
LMoP came out before CoS right?
can barely call ToD a 5e campaign. It was released before the DMG
Mage hand always
For what?
utility in general, read it.
Its a giga good spell
Just being able to interact with many things at distance without risking yourself its good
Knock a door, trigger a trap, etc. etc.
Your limit is the dm and your creativity.
its been working out for me great, session 12 is tonight
I dunno if I asked before but its fine to reflavor races into aberrations/monstrosities right
i feel like i need more context
maching a mechanical change like changing the creature type like that is fine
but reflavoring is just changing the presentation without the underlying mechanics
Hmmm...
So, I do want to ask chat about a plan for the next session
Basically, options between killing werewolves or tackling an unrelated quest first for a chance to get loot before taking care of the werewolves
My main thing for the plan is thinking if the following plan for taking down werewolves is good enough to take care of now more than later
werewolves first, or whichever mean more consequences if leave for later.
I vote for loot!
Well, specifically
There is both a werewolf problem and a wine shortage (supply is long overdue, we must go out to find why) to solve
And I think that we could take them out at night
The idea is that we can have Paladin cast Light on herself or the Fighter
Meaning that I, the Wizard, and our Druid can stay in the backlines but still have advantage on attack rolls
Without needing to stay close to the frontline
I vote for loot
I'm just trying to see if our party is capable enough to take out werewolves
Wizard and Druid don't care about the resistance, i can easily bypass that with silvered stuff
Paladin has Divine Smite
And as for Magic Weapon, does the spell also make the weapon magical for overcoming?
Silver coins in a sock, it always work
a bag filled of silver coins.
Hmmm
or take a silver coin and break it for an arrow tip
Probably not possible, but if our Wizard had Heat Metal, would be fun to try to melt silver coins into the weapons
Hmm...
Actually, that could work very well-
I thought Druid or Bard gets Heat Metal
yeah, you'd need DM approval, heat metal doesn't heat it enough to melt or even affect it structurally
...I could have sworn Wizards got heat metal
And artificers
Well, so much for that
I am still curious about this
Does Magic Weapon also make said weapon magical for overcoming?
Good to know
i have an idea for a druid subclass
im thinking circle of spores but more into the undead side
like necromancy not undead specifically
Necromancy but not undead. That's like sugar but not sweet
Remove Curse or killing them
Dont take our word for anything on that matter
Nothing gets handled more differently from table to table than lycantrhopy in my experience
Well, I can at least get basic expectations
No like
Not specifically undead i meant necromancy which includes undead
I just want to prepare for our Fighter or a backline getting bit and failing con save
The magic item
Getting bit by a werewolf is bad, avoid at all costs
I could tell, but that is the problem. Having a chance of an extra level would not help us out much defensively
Frontline classes will still be at the frontline and closest to the werewolves
remind me to never listen to your advice
Anyone down to do a campaign?
Whoa! calm down, what happened?
that... was a trainwreck
Lol fr
So then the question becomes
What spells should we prepare for defensive play? As an example, Paladin preparing Shield of Faith
I thought it was funny
it is like watching a car crash and being unable to stop it in time
well what'd you think would happen without preparation? did you guys just jump into a DnD adventure without making character sheets or making an actual goal?
even oneshots need time to simmer until you can serve it up to the players
i had a goal and they had sheets
the goals did not goal and they started a bar fight
in the middle of the royal capital
silvery barbs heheh ehehehehwudqwnixeknwf
Oh, yeaaaaaah. I almost forgot about that one
mage armour and shield too
i was deffo not prepared for that
i had this cool underground society planned and stuff
Lesser Restoration. Purify Food & Drink.
Shield, bless, protection from good and evil (more niche, but needed in those circumstances)
...why PFD?
what should i have done do you think?
To think any group will follow goals is asinine
You direct and redirect until you get whaf is needed your a story yeller
Story tell (yell to lol go crazy)
For starters, don't jump to a game right away with random people, a day, sure, why not, but not immediately
i wasnt expecting them to massacre city guards and bring the royal army down on em
ig that makes sense
That is odd did they seem thise type of players in a S0? And 2nd always try redirecting
It is defensive in nature. So you don't eat poisons andother bad stuff
I also don’t know follow context 
one wasnt the type to kill first and never ask questions and they were the one with homebrew
now you see why it's also important to have a group that cooperates
you're excited to play DnD and that's alright, but you should never sacrifice the quality for quantity
ive never had a group quite that dysfunctional tbh
i could barely get a word in myself lol
yeah, I've also had a group like that and it wasn't fun at all
anyone know of a random d100 table with mundane flowers?
im looking into maybe starting wild beyond the witchlight any tips?
imma take my time and learn the campaign and everything
Is it normal for people to be against having a sorcerer go to Wizarding school? I have seen this trope/taboo a lot, when in all honesty, it doesnt always make sense
nothing about that is normal, thats magical
sorcerers get their power from dark entities or other benefactors, wizards use their brains and learn the art manually, piece by piece, scroll by scroll, there's a difference
sorcerers going to wizarding school is like a blind kid going to film school
That sounds more like warlocks and patrons, sorcerers are origins
oh i js got it mixed up, im new
still tho its like rich kids going to the hood
Innate vs learned seems kind of pointless, as being innately good only gets you so far before you need help
Every sorcerer I've made has at least gone to some kind of school, whether it be for bards, wizards, or even a temple service
okok
Maybe its just me, but I think people having a taboo against sorcerers going to school is kind of pointless
so do you want a lore dump?
Lore dump of what?
basically, sorcerers don't need to go to school, the way magic works is the weave, a theoretical thing that the god of magic upkeeps
wizards deepen their connection to the weave by studying it etc etc
sorcerers are automatically made to be connected to it at birth or major milestone moment
kinda like being a rich kid
someone who is already connected to the weave with other people already trying to connect to it seems kinda redundant
Specific D&D lore isnt really what I'm looking for, as I see this trope through different settings, and counterpoint, yiu can be rich, but you won't stay rich if you dont know how to use that money
you can't lose connection to the weave
ig if you don't wanna go by the lore then theres no reason to not do what you want
im js saying why other people don't do the school thing with sorcerers
I've never actually had someone discriminate against Sorcerers in a magic campus setting.
Like idk, I don't think Wizards behave some type of way towards Sorcerers.
depends on the personality
I've also never played with someone that did feel that Wizards behaved some type of way towards Sorcerers
I’ve heard of tables who lean into the bit of wizards and sorcerers disliking each other’s ways of learning magic, but I’ve never experienced it in practice at my tables
I think it’s one of those tropes that’s more common online than it is at the table
So, good news and bad news
Good news is, I think there's a way we can take out the werewolves next session without needing a level up or more loot
the good news... I tpk on most of my characters T_T
i would just be like "hey my sorcy brosky, give me that dab" and do some epic dab with him making some magic
The bad news is, I'm starting to get a little upset at the Fighter and Wizard
They keep trying to say that any significant suggestion I make to the party is "forcing optimization on the party"
Like, seriously? We're about to go up against werewolves, and you're telling me I am the problem for suggestion we take Shield of Faith, Remove Curse, and Silvery Barbs?
I mean from what we've seen you seem to be more concerned with how other people play than how you play
I would just worry about yourself
take your foot off the gas fella, just play
If you approach D&D such that failure becomes a blame-game, definitely gotta reevaluate your approach.
Although, in hindsight
...I may have made a bit of a wall of text explaining how things like Druid carrying the bullseye lantern would be for the best
So yes, I would say that (repeatedly) making unwarranted suggestions are problematic, and are even more problematic the further you push.
So, it might be a bit understandable that they would get upset by that
homie you keep coming onto this public discord complaining that people don't play the way you want. you gotta just let go and let people play
I am not privy to your discussions with the table but the way you tell it, and I presume you're telling it to highlight that you feel you're right, it sounds pretty insufferable
For the 2024 durable feat. Is the speedy recovery "Hit Dice" referring to the dice we use to regen health on short rests?
Yes and no, imho
Sometimes, things just happen and you eat dirt for it
But if it's a blunder that could have easily been avoided with a prepared spell or something, that's where I draw the line
we had a player who tried to micromanage our table years ago and they are no longer welcome at the table.
Yeah, that's something that would be problematic behavior.
The only Spells you control are your own
Let's just say that icould have said what I could have while cutting to the chase. And I owned up to that
Put another way, if you draw the line where a failure could be avoided, it's entirely fair that someone else draws the line at you not making suggestions to try to control what they do.
It's also possible you are just not a good fit for the table.
The same could be said about the others, but that more relies on the majority opinion.
Talking a bit more to the 2, I can see the problem a bit more, and it's most what I say and how
It needs to be a lot shorter in the future
And Fighter assumes that not mentioning him much during planning = sidelining Fighter
I think it's also the fact that you are seemingly trying to push people to do stuff, as opposed to trying to actually work with them.
the problem isn't that you put too much cake on the plate, it's that the players don't like your baking.
Explained to him that I don't mention him much because it's really hard to make specific preparations when you're character's combat is rushing in and smacking anything we don't like with a hammer
Are there any monsters who have some effect that shows or spreads hunger to those around them? Like some kinda Regional Effect?
let people play
Okay, then I guess I should ask this
you don't have to ask anything from us, ask your table
"hey do you like it when I try to control how you guys play your characters?"
I am as we speak. I just want other opinions on this too
our opinions don't matter.
If some of the party members think we can't take a fight, is it bad that I'm making small suggestions to make said fight easier for us?
we've already told you that trying to control other peoples' play is irritating, annoying, and antisocial. whether we like it or not isn't really relevant to your table.
it is
It's not ""bad"" Inherently, you shouldn't try to make them do something that they don't want to do
It could be like "Hey we're gonna fight werewolves, would you mind getting silvery barbs since it's useful against them?", then don't push further when they decline
Important context: You are new to D&D, therefore you lack a lot of long-term context that people in the server have who have played the game significantly longer. A lot of people who have a lot more experience in the game are saying that your conduct is considered bad-form, and multiple of them probably have experience with people exhibiting your behavior and later being removed from a group. I would be wary based on that knowledge.
We have a player at our table who occasionally tries to tell the rest of what what spells we should take or use in the moment or other things to do and it is super annoying.
They used to do it * a lot*,but the table had a talk with them and asked them to let us run our own characters.
They have gotten better but it still irks me every time
wassup everyone
Evening everyone
I had a player try to tell another player what to do and pick. Completely taking away that player's choices or character's agency
Reading up on another classes spell list or abilities and then trying to queue their actions like they are your team in bg3 is pretty uncool
wait @loud tendon are you a mod
Yes. I am a community member and a moderator.
are you chill?
as Undying said before, Orange are mods, Red are Staff
i know heeheehee im bored
Please dont ping me, I am right here.
Im chill as a mod as long as people are following the rules.
As a community member for d&d I think generally pretty chill.
I’m chill rn (it’s minus 15 degrees)
Calamity is chill, yeah
aight cool
as long as you're not an idiot
I should clarify that I mean in Celsius
yeah, sucks to work outside in Canada rn. Wish i can just stay inside and play DND all day
you might wear your self out if you do it all day.
Not directly. But use the weather and other regional effects that would affect food and water and you're golden.
thought as much. Guess I only really have stuff like the Scion of Grolantor to work off
The idea was that the area around a certain god's avatar just made people near it very greedy and gluttonous
I did try to make the suggestion like that
But I may have went overboard on the text length and explanation
bro im in illinois and its -40C
Bruhhhh stay safe
If you apologized after that it'd be fine, but you somewhat kept pushing
It's best to know when the discussion is over, and to try and get better
So do you drop it after the first suggestion?
We’re supposed to get a ton of snow around now but it hasn’t stated yet
its so cooked😭
Also you'd def hate my characters lol, most of them are flavor intensive on the weaker side of actual combat, except my Paladin
I choose feats like Chef. I certainly would like people not to mess with my Spell List other than myself, or "Choose War Caster"
yo whats the most common race for druid usually?
I run 2024 Hex for my Warlock💔
Quick summary was
"Hey, can we make these preparations for the upcoming session?"
Then it wasn't a refusal for said suggestion. More like me explaining the reasoning behind said suggestion too much
People seem to like wood elf and half elf Druids
Whether Wizard and other will take said advice is unknown for now. They haven't replied
Yeah it kind of gave off the vibe that you're really really insistent on it
It could really be anything... but I can see Human.
Well good, you can still clear up the misunderstanding clearly preferably in one sentence
oh well im a dragonborn druid, and i thought it was more common with elves
Fun fact: druid used to be human and half elf exclusive
-# Really? That is fun
I will also say that "can we make these preparations...?" is itself a bit ehhh. I think phrasing it like "have we considered...?" would end up being taken better.
what?
I like games like anime but not based off of anything (or expecting heavy homebrew). Fantasy game instead
Or maybe like "what do you guys think we should do if we are going to face the werewolves next session?"
I didn't keep pushing for them to take the advice. It was just a pretty long explanation when it could have been a lot shorter
TLDR: Protection helps with Undead, Remove Curse/Silvery Barbs helps us take less attacks from werewolves and makes curses less likely
Druid is a backline, but doesn't benefit from stealth at a range that much, so she would benefit the most from carrying the Bullseye Bantern
You may have not, but it seemed like it is the point
wether or not you intended it to be is kinda moot
"Have we considered Holy Water?"
-# Does Holy Water do anything?
The important thing is that, unless the game itself had expectations set very early on that the goal was to heavily strategize, trying to force that strategy on the group can be seen as breaking the social contract.
Against Undead and Fiends, 2d6 Radiant damage
Not against werewolves
Put it in a jar, tie rope around it, nifty little holy weapon
Make a sorbet~
time to make sor-
The current plan for that is that they insist on taking care of another quest farther away in hope that reward for doing so would help against the werewolves
But I think we could take care of them before that other quest with good preparation
No we will not make sorbet(not yet)
Chef feat: We making a sorbet with Holy Water, salt, and sugar~
This I can get behind~
Okay.. so if the majority of the group wants to try to do something else first and have already said they don't want to attack now, you should probably go with what the group wants.
Make the suggestion that you might be able to take them, but if they aren't into it.. move along.
Loot side quest~
Most of us are quite divided on the matter. Some of us want to take care of this now
Basically, I and I believe the Wizard for now
Paladin for later
Fighter and Druid are either undecided or flat out don't care
What happens to a Vampire who's struck with Lycanthropy?
Lycanthropy only works on Humanoids
and Vampirism requires the vamp to drain a Humanoid
Ahh... hmm, there's a tiny spot in the MM that's Lycanthropy for nonhumans
Nonhumans. Not Nonhumanoids.
You're right.
It's really too bad the new MM don't have these options
no autognome werewolves?
Because the new MM turns them into 10 HP statblocks under the DM's control, which i much rather prefer. What I dislike about the 2024 Lycantrhopes is the lack of their Resistances. They didnt even get the Regeneration trait of hte Loup Garou or Wereraven
nope. or Thrikreen, Plasmoid, Centaur, Satyr, Faerie, 2024 Warforged, Kalashtar, etc
you could add them back in using DM toolskit. Just give them resistance with piercing/slashing/bludgeoning unless it is magic weapon.
Okay, so i went back and make a brief TLDR about the situation
I just prefer the Regeneration of the newer, pre-2024 Lycanthropes
Regeneration. The loup garou regains 10 hit points at the start of each of its turns. If the loup garou takes damage from a silver weapon, this trait doesn't function at the start of the loup garou's next turn. The loup garou dies only if it starts its turn with 0 hit points and doesn't regenerate.
that works even better
This is paraphrasing, but the general idea is there
Basically, party was a bit divided on our capability of taking out werewolves. I made small suggestions to help our party feel more united about the decision and outlook on us being able to take them out
Wait, they had regen?
You could just give it to them
I dont think anyone's tracking at this point
Yeah, the Van Ritchen ones got Regen
i homebrew monsters a lot, gets pretty hard to metagame
But when I use a monster as is, its usually either just strong enough as is, or is a mook
Whenever it's a boss, I give'm Legendary Actions. Oh so good.
As for the advice, Paladin taking Shield of Faith (turns out, already has it)
Wizard preparing remove curse should we get bitten and cursed
And Fighter being prepared to invoke Fire Runes and asking Paladin for Shield of Faith
Bless is a great spell, I love bless
"Okey guys, its full moon and you are hearing an owl, there is bear marks in the ground. Amuse me and tell me what you all are hunting"
I don't even modify creatures in the thoughts of metagaming, I just do it because its more fun
"An owlbear"
DM: No, A Wereowlbear!!
It's a Harpybear ~
Humans
na, cultist, they lost teh right to be called humans (if they surrender and change their ways i would give my life for them)
Whatever happened to the Cleric 
Make me a Wereowlbear~ takes hit
he meet up with his ex....a high devil...
I knew those Clerics of Asmodeus were up to no good
Half wolf half owl half bear
he said it was for only talking, there was candles and his favorite meal.... i dont think there will be any talk
The math is... hm...
Ah. Yes. Three halves
Iirc, Were- means "man". So Werewolf means Man Wolf.
30% owl 30% wolf and 40% bear for the size
So wereowlbear, man owlbear
ooookeeey, a human werewolf//owl//bear
Bro need only get bitten by a fish and he will be all terrain
That's like 4 half's now
The magnus opus predator, the human werewolf/owl/bear/shark
at least it isn't a human man/bear/pig
That just sounds like an Orc Druid
We need to add in half spider
It can fly, its fast like a wolf, thick like a bear, lethal like a shark
Where!? im already have a hard time thinking of how to make it look
I'll believe it when Pigs fly
More legs
Oh yeah, 2 more arms to the giant creature all terrain that can smell you from the atmosphere, hit you like a bullet train flying and finally maul you with his jaws that might be capable of process adamantine at this point
It will also be able to crawl on walls
Considerating the size i doubt there willl be any walls.
Or maybe it spews web from its butt
but the important question for some PCs, can we eat it?
in a minute!
-Artificer
Yes
Eating random creatures since the dawn of time
25dc Const.
awww jeezes
For each -5 of that, you are getting a disease.
What if I roll a nat 1
Thats 24 less
Full curse to you, get trasnformed in the moment breaking any magical item you were wearing and can be only restored with Greater Restoration at max or wish.
Eating things and rolling a nat 1 is just biting your tongue
you roll a nat 1, you explode.
"Hmm.. this has a slight peppery... flavor to.." Cue spontaneous explosion
I could go for some spontaneous explosion I need to shovel snow
It would really speed up the process of shoveling
Allergic to a food? Ate it for accident and rolled a nat1 in the const save for just half damage?
Welp buddy, there will be a departure present.
Pieces of you there, pieces of you over here, pieces of you everywhere.
Evolution claims another soul
Tsk'va, did the filthy Ghaik claim another soul, chk
Hey @remote wadi have things been better lately?
In my sessions or me as a person?
Both? Either?
Sessions are going a bit okay-ish. Hoping we find some magic items soon. Pretty scarce for being level 5, even in a CoS campaign
Where we left off, we had the choice to take out werewolves for a quest
Or travel more to take care of another quest first
Trying to convince party we have plenty of spells and defensive countermeasures to take out the den
Ahh. Magic item finding is a big deal in 5th. I have my party complaining about not being "up to level" with their loot, but (in fact), they just need to sell stuff. They're well equipped.
Why is circle of the moon, called circle of the moon? What does better wildshaping have to do with the moon?
The moon helps them attune with wild shaping better ig
i figured it was because the moon changes
The mooon is associated with lycanthropy... which is associated with people changing shape....
The moon is closely associated with lycanthropy and shapeshifting in general
The easiest way to out Lycanthropes is during the day~ And investigating
A lot of shapeshifting creatures only come out at night too
Thought so. Just wanted to ensure I wasn't stretching it
That's my best guess.
no, its in the flavor text
For example, dark vision to take out the den at night, Light Cantrip, great healing and offensive spells.
We just need to change a few spells on the upcoming Long Rest if one of us does get cursed
I like just giving op magic items constantly
Not to mention we have Shield of Faith and Cloud Rune to deflect attacks
But no bag of holding
I just hope we can reach that agreement and take them out next session
Thoughts on having Ai as a game master? Genuinely just curious
not worth it
boring, wasteful, and bad
Sucks and is a waste of resources
AI is stupid. It cannot math. It cannot follow complex plots. It can't keep its story straight.
you want a AI as a game master, play BG3. At least it is more entertaining.
or even better, solasta
Ehh human creativity still on top
well, those games were written by people
sure, but if you want an AI to run a game, might as well let it be a video game (made by people)
what you're really looking forward to is a eldritch horror as a DM.
I want that DnD session that got fantasy environment but it got cryptids and eldritch horror as monsters
The doorman hypothetical
for roleplaying, it goes
human dm
video game
nothing
setting your house on fire
AI
was the house on fire because there was a spider?
no, I love spiders
so many channels why am I sweating already
turn on a fan!
Dnds a social game anyways
AI is intrinsically antisocial/anticreative
Mhm
and AI is intrinsically social/creative
Basically anti dnd
What if its like 3 people and then an Ai dm cuz they cant find someone to DM?
the only thing AI does is firehose "content" at you. it's like eating uranium simply because it's got a lot of calories
Could one person be a player and be a dm at the same time? I dont think so
did you just ping me JUST to ping me
What are you gonna do, stand around and wait for chatgpt to say its thing
Not exactly immersive
please stop that
Stuck on a campaign that does this.It feels like a text based game more like DnD
if they keep pinging it is harassment.
That’s pretty awful
its not that hard to find a DM that plays a good game I guess
You dont need AI for that
Man, people do not seem to respect that boundary, do they?
Yay, campaign picked up again since the holidays and I got to break out my Blink Puppy!
Listen, i get the urge to do the complete opposite of what someone says
By the way, quick question
I don't have to worry about it anymore.
But also…. Its not funny at all
doesn't matter, let's just move on
Turns out, we do have a Bullseye lantern, but idk who would be best to carry it
Hello hello
what if you program the AI to be your old Aunt?
and it can be a Old Aunt AI as the DM.. who always refers to their players with pet nick names... and wants to pinch their cheeks..
It would tell me to stand up and stop playing DnD loudly with friends
you can do whatever you want, if that's using AI that's on you
I wasn't the one really pushing for that, it was someone else. I think your party would be fine without it.
question was just asked if it would be a good DM, we said no. that's all
AI in a campaign?? Why???
So, would carrying a bullseye lantern make other people see you?
Personally, even ignoring the base limitations of AI for dungeon mastering (digital hallucinations, not remembering, etc)
haullcinations, just like my Aunt.
lol
And while we don't need it, they were asking if we have it. Turns out, we did get it very early on, just no one has used it
It just cant fulfill the sole function of a DM thats most important, which is keeping a group together
you can come up with all the "I'm just asking questions" hypotheticals you want, I don't think any of us is interested in entertaining that
No DM can found in real life.Im confident Id be a good DM but I cant play DM and a player at the same time
No, because the light only goes in one direction. Though they will probably guess that someone is holding it.
Where u living if its not personal?
Same happened with me. Didn’t stop me from being NPC’s have fun with the players
Don’t ping him
call a Mod
Somewhere in a 3rd world country
So if, say, a Wizard were to carry it, then cast an attack roll spell, they would have advantage in darkness? (Presuming that Wizard can see them, but not the reverse)
Did you try checking around the university and collage communities? They do have some good things going around
Ok theoretically you could choose to include yourself in the cone of light, but why would you?
Assuming the enemy is in the dark and doesn't have darkvision, yes.
But if the Wizard has Darkvision why do you need the lantern? for the 120ft range?
I dont think they got one here in the place Im at.If I moved into the cities id prolly find people there
Or only to a certain distance, but is outside of the range
So, is it possible for an Owlin Wizard to fly, use the lantern, and cast spells all at the same time?
My friend and I are writing a campaign atm and we’re trying to incorporate a lot of character backstories into the campaign. It’s hell but it’s gonna be so much fun
yeah then you have two options for that, either you teach DnD to your local friends or use Online games to have fun
Yeahh that makes sense.Thank youu
Good luck!
If they have the requisite other hand free to interact with components, yes. Flying doesn't take up a hand.
Could one be a DM and a player at the same time thoughhh?
yes, DMPCs.
We all have short range on the dark vision, all things considered. If we really wanted or needed to, Wizard and I would be able to attack someone from a long range thanks to spell sniper and Sharpshooter
not the traditiniol way but why not as long as you are having fun right?
Ehh .. kinda, but usually not recommended.
Technically there is nothing stopping you. My friend and I swapped being DM’s because we both came up with the campaign
Ohhh alright then thankyouuu
You are a vampire with innate darkvision, yes? If you already have 60ft darkvision, then being a Gloomstalker increases that by 60. So you will have 120ft of darkvision in total.
That is a good question, I'll brb
Sent the question to the DM
And I also remembered that I am invisible against others who rely on dark vision
Good!
But I do need to ask
Stay in the darkness!
The lantern gives 60 ft bright and 60 dim
If someone has dark vision, would they be able to see in bright light at 120 feet?
Vampire Spawn now apparently
Or would it not apply due to dark vision being only 60 ft range?
Can you clarify this question?
Where is the person with darkvision in relation to the lantern? How long is their darkvision range?
Lantern, 60 ft cone of bright light
60 of dim. Would dim be bright if dark vision person is holding lantern? Or would it not apply due to being only 60 ft range for dark vision?
I'm guessing latter
Here are the rules for vision: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#Darkvision
Yeah, so it wouldn't
Darkvision treats dim light like bright light, so yes it would?
Oh no, you're right.
Only to a certain range
Well, yes and no
Let's just say when we do go to the next bandit camp, I basically want to attack from another zip code
Gloomstalker, casting darkvision on their companions who can't see in the dark and always disrupting the Gloomstalker's sneaky with their light spells or torches.
Someone else would need to carry the lantern so I can see them
The Wizard
Which will be the plan
As long as your darkvision reaches the beginning of the lantern light, you can see all the way to the end of it.
Barring weird angles.
Especially because they can they can land attacks from very far away thanks to spell sniper
If the Wizard is holding the lantern, they will be able to attack all the way out to the end of the dim light with no problem.
So let's just say if he wanted to
Upcasted Chromatic Orb would hit from 120 feet away for very good elemental damage
At advantage
Because the only thing Dim Light does is impose Disadv on Perception rolls.
Which that would be pretty scary if you think about it
I have just seen how much damage an upcasted Chromatic Orb can do, it's very nice.
pinball wizard
Or if said bandits were by lights of their own like a campfire
Now we're looking at 240 feet with Fire Bolts
2d10 Fire Damage for free with advantage
As long as the darkvision range touches the edge of dim light, otherwise technically Darkness forms an opaque barrier, which is unrealistic, but RAW.
So but you get that Dim Light doesn't impact attack rolls, right?
I know that, yeah
I just want to know if being able to see where they currently are would negate any darkness between us
I'm going to give my players a large egg to hold onto
how large is large?
If there is Darkness between you, then technically no. But if you ignore that darkness and turn it to Dim Light it's fine.
A tarrasque egg
Can i break it
Light rules for 2014: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014/adventuring#VisionandLight
watch the clip on Youtube, a movie called Caveman with Ringo Star where they carry a giant dinosaur egg while being chased by a dinosaur.
So Wizard would need to be 60 feet away from me to make my total range 180 feet
A technical reading of the Darkness rules means that Darkness blocks vision like a wall. I don't know if most DM's actually run it that way because technically that means you couldn't see the stars or the moon at night.
Yeah
Now, are baby tarrasques cute or ugly
they're cute AND ugly
They won't know what it is and that's the point
My cleric casted destroy water on a bodyguard and insta killed him
You're leaving out a lot of things from the sentence for me to actually make sense of it. Do you mean that you are behind the Wizard and there is basically a straight between you, the Wizard, and an enemy on the other side with the lantern pointing at it? And this is assuming you only have 60ft darkvision?
So, I would imagine that worst case scenario, max range is 180 feet. Best case scenario, as long as someone is able to cast dim light on the target, I can attack from full range of 400 feet if I wanted to
All baby's of any species outside of our own is cute
If it is true that darkness blocks all vision, max range for me would be 60 + a bullseye lantern 60 feet away pointing away from me
Baby birds.
Cute
Ergo, I would be able to see dim light 180 feet away
Those things are pretty ugly
Fully Rules As Written yes the 180ft is the max range you can snipe something from the darkness with a bullseye lantern as your only light.
Look up a baby pelican and say it again
I think spiders are cute your not going to get me
But if it isn't fully RAW and there's some leniency to make Darkness not block vision attacks, I can attack from even farther as long as target is covered in dim light
Spiders can be cute
They so derp
I can't answer that without knowing exactly how your DM is houseruling darkness and vision rules.
But baby pelicans are colloquially known as something i cant even say in this server
As always it comes back down to "Ask your DM"
You don't have to. I'm just trying to verify these if/then statements would be true if they are true
Your proposed if is too vague "some leniency" doesn't tell me how much and once we get to houserules, everything about what I know could go out the window, and your DM is prone to very loosey goosey rules, it seems.
I didn't see any houserules involving darkness yet, but we haven't been 110% RAW either
Well no one is 110% raw
Like I said, loosey goosey. So I can answer for RAW, I cannot answer for non-RAW.
Hopefully….
Right, because the rules making it against the rules to see the stars or moon at night are a bit silly, if fully RAW.
Or the vast amount of cheese you can pull off, even in 2024
Ie. Warcaster + opportunity attack + haste/cure wounds/any support spell
If something isn't fully RAW and you need answers to a hypothetical, it's best to ask your DM than strangers on Discourse
I try to do both. Which i am
Doing both tho is kinda pointless if its a homeruling thing
I would count on 180ft if the conditions are just right, most fights don't give you that much more need for range anyway. But also, don't count on your Wizard friend always having the lantern pointed in the direction that is 100% optimal for you.
End of the day, up to the dm
Not planning on it. I do, however, want him to carry the lantern both for my and his own benefit
I'm a fairly laid back DM I keep things mostly raw till my players want something changed then it's group vote
At the end of the day I like my players to have fun
Just remember that the light will also turn off your invisibility.
Testing the words
evil campaign
well @supple nexus it wasn't "evil" so I don't know 
lol
If he shines it on me, that is
Yep, and 120ft cones are a large area. Though you could cross it and go back to being invisible on the other side, would be pretty creepy for the enemy.
It would be, yeah. Especially if it was me crawling on the walls or ceiling
I do RAI, with rule of cool
Ahh Charm tanking, I missed it.
Can you voluntarily lose a saving throw
In the 2014 rules: no. In the 2024 rules: yes
Yes good as I am thinking about playing a scaredy cat reluctant adventurer fighter
I was going to dump charisma since that make the most sense for a scaredy cat but then I look
Fear spell Is a wisdom save
And succeeding that make no sense
Hello everyone~! I'm hoping to run a 5e campaign involving historical real world elements (Gnostic religions and naturalistic sciences mixed with the classic fantasy elements).
If anyone is interested, feel free to reach out; I would love to start with a solo session in order to give your character a bit of a background when we meet for the group sessions; plus the solo dungeon may have epic loots ;3
This may be crazy but I asked Alexa yes that Alexa from Amazon if she could facilitate as game master one shots for me or me and a group using 2024 rulebook and she said yes very easily
I will try this tomorrow and update y’all on how well this works
If this works well it will be a game changer for those wanting to play but are either too nervous for group play or physically can’t make it to a group
Fingers crossed this works
Alexa, be a dungeon master but with a eastern European accent and try to include at the end of each sentence, "I am the land. Blah blah blah."
I can already tell you that it won't. AIs will make rules up and forget what happened whatever was longer than 5 minutes ago.
that’s not surprising
It says I not quite sure how to help you with that
I am using the new in beta Alex’s + it is a lot smarter than the old Alexa
I doubt it will work well but it’s worth a try
How do you unlock it
You can but I’d also ask your party about this. If a player did this in a big combat where it matters I’d be kinda annoyed lol
Have to buy a brand new Alexa like Alexa show I bought the fire cube which is part fire tv stick part Alexa dot
It won’t work on dots or regular Alexa devices
But it’s so awesome
yoo
Aww I swear she getting dumber and dumber
so is everyone here like cracked at dnd
That's one way to phrase it, sure
Anyways this is a dnd discord I won’t get into weeds on Alexa I will just let y’all know how well it works it’s very possible it may work well
Anyways I’m off to bed goodnight and I’ll update y’all tomorrow if it works
we're jive turkeys berk, at playing math rocks and imaginary chummers in dank dark dungeons.
what? o.o
I'm trying to talk slang. Did it work?
we're jive turkeys berk, no idea what u mean here
I admit
Made me die inside a little,
I think it worked
Hi!
I mean like as quirk I'll still play normal but I will be more clingy XD
ngl what do u even do at lvl 20
Make the DM cry
But then the DM will finally realise they don’t need to balance the combat anymore
Then all hell breaks loose
what did u do if u were at llv 20
its all good and fun until dm comes to session with an extra bag of minies
I’ve only been level 20 once for a political intrigue campaign
Hail sulphur god
But damn it was fun
Our characters were grand, hailed heroes
I played a fallen warlord
My condolences /j
Dang, poor the barbarians in yr team
yo is this a fear and hunger reference?
That was me 😭
I was a Monk/barbarian
YEAAA I love fnh played like 5 times I prefer termina tho
Bonk!
I was mega bonk, flurry bonk if you will
ive only played termina imma prolly get fear and hunger 1 but ngl playing it is so dreadful
Was yr charisma high? Or did you min max
Did I tell you folks about my Wonderous Three Crit Steel Wind Strike today? I can't remember lol
Yup
My charisma was high, just because my character was a warlord and would naturally have high charisma
Yeaa it's quite the experience, but there's a really op weapon you get super early it just makes everything easier
I'm never getting three crits in a row ever again in my life 😔
How MAD were they?
I LOVE WARLOCKS
is it a cheat item
No no, not a warlock, a warlord
But I think I'm more of a ranger
Surprisingly not too MAD. I was a strength build (yes, a strength Monk 😭)
