Composer's Tournament event

[jovial hatch]

Idk man, im bored. Need some entertainment.

[elder ruin]

im all for it

[delicate nova]

Mmm

How would that work?

I would like to be the jury

[jovial hatch]

maybe the jury gotta give requirements of what the song gotta sound like

And the contestants gotta do it within a given time

[delicate nova]

Yes

Melody, harmony/counterpoint, form, orchestration/instrumental-writing and creativity would be the perfect parameters, each can be valued on a scale from 1 to 10

[delicate nova]

Well if it’s a 5-10 minute piece then maximum 2 months

[elder ruin]

There shouldn't be a minimum duration for the piece

And I suggest that a competition works with prompts rather than definite structure

For example, it could be "a piece for string ensemble evocating water"

[delicate nova]

well, 10 seconds pieces...

[elder ruin]

well that could play out in the score

[delicate nova]

it's better to have both, especially since the parameters I listed are the ones that every great composition has and therefore that every composition should have

[elder ruin]

There could be a part of the score based on theory and other, and the other part would be based on the prompt

[delicate nova]

yeah but what kind of musical ability can you showcase in just 10 seconds?

[elder ruin]

You can't, which is why no one would do that

You would simply not manage to get a good score

[delicate nova]

why not both? theory is never the end but the tool whereby the prompt would be achieved

[elder ruin]

Yeah by theory i meant like harmonisation, counterpoint, conventions, etc

[delicate nova]

oh no one cares about all of that

all of the theory concepts have to be there to serve a purpose in a composition, not to say "hey I can do a 8 part fugue"

[elder ruin]

well yeah

man i cant find the right words

[delicate nova]

xd

anyway I think we're dreaming too much

the admin's probably gonna say no

[elder ruin]

the best i could think of is "quality of the writing"

[delicate nova]

yes

the prompt has to be composed with a certain quality behind it, which is measured through the theory parameters

[elder ruin]

like if someone comes up with a piece in 4/4 that should've been in 3/4, they didnt cook

[elder ruin]

which is why one parameter should be more objective and the other more creative

[delicate nova]

yes

[delicate nova]

yes yes

[elder ruin]

and for this reason we'd need more than one judge

mostly for the creative part

[delicate nova]

^ as you can see here creativity is a parameter

[delicate nova]

yeah but who

[elder ruin]

idk

you clearly

lol

[delicate nova]

I can't duplicate myself xdddd

[elder ruin]

ah so you would like to participate?

[delicate nova]

no like

I can't split myself in two judges

[elder ruin]

no ofc

[delicate nova]

I can't participate xd

[elder ruin]

is there any composer of your level here?

i think we can allow more freedom for judges when it comes to creative writing

but for theory you definitely are the best 😂

[delicate nova]

I doubt it, there are only three composers on discord that are on my level and they're not here

[elder ruin]

Ah

[delicate nova]

unless someone I don't know exists ofc

[delicate nova]

of course

[elder ruin]

who are they

[delicate nova]

Zordornak, Seraphim, Alla Polacca

Actually, Zordornak and Alla Polacca are better than me

[elder ruin]

Well I know an even better composer lol

His name is George

George Chaplain

his job is writing music lol

But he's on CMH

[delicate nova]

no dude you don't understand

Zordornak is the greatest classical composer of the century

okay maybe I'm slightly exagerrating

[elder ruin]

he wrote music for films

Like

[delicate nova]

but yeah I don't think anyone exists that is better than him aside from idk, John Williams?

[elder ruin]

his JOB is making music

[delicate nova]

our job is make music too xd

[elder ruin]

you said you were self taught

he went to uni

[delicate nova]

I said I'm a self taught, yes, but I never said I wasn't a professional

[elder ruin]

Well that I believe

But I had never seen someone write a Mahler-style symphony before

[delicate nova]

and anyway it's hard to compare classical musicians and film-scoring musicians, the parameters of evaluation are just different

[elder ruin]

True

Well

John Williams was great at both 😂

And many classical composers made great film music

[delicate nova]

of course

because learning from a classical background gives you the chance to be able to be good at pretty much anything

[elder ruin]

How do you make a living out of composition though

[delicate nova]

you can't if it's just from composition, unless you're very famous and get a lot of money

mostly you get commissions from other people, possibly professional maestros

[jovial hatch]

Holy hell what a debate

[jovial hatch]

By selling your music to other people

Or publish ur own music urself

[elder ruin]

yes indeed

[delicate nova]

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[atomic sonnet]

how can we help? Also don't ping all of us, don't one of us

[delicate nova]

Prithee, forgive my idiosyncratic ignorance!

Anyway

As the thread suggests, we’re in #1059181256325206046 and this specific channel suggests a Composer’s Tournament event

So I was wondering what the staff team thought about such a suggestion and if it was possible to do in the server

[atomic sonnet]

I can bring it up to everones attention, it'll take some time until a decision will be made though

[delicate nova]

It’s okay

I doubt someone would have any qualms with that

[modern magnet]

Trey would I win this

[elder ruin]

dunno

[delicate nova]

dunno

[jovial hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-3759542891851895014

[modern magnet]

I made 9 concertos btw

[jovial hatch]

Alr bro, u r quite good ig

[delicate nova]

quantity doesn't matter

quality does

and if a competition does happen I will be the one to decide who wins, since I'll be the judge

[modern magnet]

I have both

[delicate nova]

share something you've written

I'm curious now

[modern magnet]

Like a picture or me playing it

[delicate nova]

I meant

don't you have a pdf and mp3 xd

[modern magnet]

No

I write irl

[delicate nova]

okay, do you have any pictures?

and audios

if you don't have audio is fine

[delicate nova]

I have perfect pitch so I can "hear" pictures

[delicate nova]

thank you

[modern magnet]

I don’t think it’s in the right order

I don’t even think it’s the write pictures

I resend

[delicate nova]

yes resend

[delicate nova]

thank you

can I ask you a question

actually, two

how long have you been composing

and

[delicate nova]

were you serious when you typed this

or is this some sort of elaborate ragebait

[modern magnet]

I was just joking

[delicate nova]

that's a shame, I would have rigged the competition just for you

xd

[modern magnet]

I wish it were duels

I’m better a duels

[delicate nova]

xddd

[modern magnet]

Concertos you have to worry about everyone

Piano just play some notes and write down

[delicate nova]

if only it worked like that

[modern magnet]

That’s how I make music

[jovial hatch]

R ur parents impressed by it? Cuz if i were them, i wld. Especially for those who composed it handwritten