neorodivergence

[hollow lake]

As someone with adhd, I agree

[maiden phoenix]

Same

[hollow lake]

It all boils down to the "education" system

We spend much of our time in school so its logical for it to be presumed to be our second home. Therefore it must be improved and renewed and altered to a better education system

It's sad that most people aren't aware of such problems in our reality

But I'd assume it would be an act of malice rather than love if education isn't based off of equity

Throughout the majority of my life I grew up not understanding why I was so different than my peers and it only hit once I decided on doing my own research

[maiden phoenix]

I agree with them, it's really terrible how neurodivergence is portrayed on social media. It really stigmatizes it and reinforces a lot of stereotypes. It's so important to have an equitable educational system that supports everyone instead of a system that only caters to a select few. Like that's insane tbh

[maiden phoenix]

Real we should spread the word

[hollow lake]

We are the next generation and the future. So how will we improve the system? How will we govern our world and reshape it to support everyone so that we are all comfortable

[hollow lake]

Fr, I thought adhd was all about hyperactivity and "..oo is that a squirrel?" Media failed us on this part.

[maiden phoenix]

Same I felt like I was different from others and at first I thought it was them being weird I thought I was normal but as I grew I realized I was the one who was diff and then when I did research I ended up knowing about it

[maiden phoenix]

Adhd is much more than that I hate being like this it really affect my daily life tbh

[hollow lake]

Exactly 🔥

[hollow lake]

Nah I was always labelled as annoying, but I couldn't help but ask myself why everyone thought this way 🤣

[maiden phoenix]

People didn't even talk to me 💀 and some said it on face yeah that I was annoying

[maiden phoenix]

They often oversimplify them and stereotype them to a point where they dont reflect the reality of the condition at all

[hollow lake]

The world is a strange place, we are alienated to a planet that is supposedly our home

We need to strive for change

[hollow lake]

Exactly

[maiden phoenix]

It's definitely important to strive for change, we need to improve our society and make it more welcoming for everyone no matter what

[hollow lake]

It's a spectrum and therefore it has to come in different states, shapes and sizes for everyone. It truly differs from person to person

[hollow lake]

Yes🔥🔥🔥🔥

My only motivation, since I only rely on it at this point

How did you figure out it was adhd?

[maiden phoenix]

It truly is a unique experience for everyone like everyone having diff shi and it shouldnt be simplified into a single stereotype

[maiden phoenix]

I googled it first and then visited a doc

Wbu

[hollow lake]

Are you prescribed now?

[hollow lake]

I was desperate to find out why I struggled so much with school, sorta bumped into a video that talked about adhd from a youtuber called "how to adhd" and realized that the shit she says resembled me completely, I researched and continued reading about it until I was sure that I had it

[maiden phoenix]

Not really

[maiden phoenix]

damnn

[maiden phoenix]

Something similar happened to me my friend idk she sent me a ss of it and said “You match all of this” and then I did research myself and then I visited a doc

[hollow lake]

Ohh, have you noticed any improvement ever since your visit?

[maiden phoenix]

not really it's getting worse 😭

[hollow lake]

SIR WHAT 😭

[maiden phoenix]

ikr 😭

I don't even know what to do atp

😔

[hollow lake]

HOWS IT GETTING WORSE ;-;

[maiden phoenix]

IDKK

I will visit a doc again soon

[hollow lake]

You should definitely let them know what's happening

[maiden phoenix]

Yes true or I'm doomed 😭

[sterile heath]

Spotting ADHD in girls is hard for that very reason

Majority of girls with ADHD(or ADD) tend to be quite timid and don't adopt the hyperactive stigma people have placed upon adhd

Girls in genreal are much better at masking their symptoms then men which makes it reallllyyyy hard to spot it

It's unfortunate that most people go throughout their life thinking that they are simply worse because of a different way of thinking

[sterile heath]

ADHD can't really get worse unless your lifestyle is getting worse as it's a neurological issue

I'd reccomend taking the behavioral therapy your psychotherapist/psychiatrist has told you to do more seriously

It helps alot

[hollow lake]

I sort of ditched that part because I was so hasty in becoming academically validated so I rushed it through with the meds thinking it would atleast provide me an additional benefit as I study. But really, I'm as messy as I were before it. I should consider behavioural therapy after my igcse

I only thought it would waste my time, but the sheer essence of it's making makes me understand that it was made for a reason and that I should give it a shot and that that reason in particular had worked for many people before and continue to work for people, otherwise why would it be made in the first place and continue to coexist today

Yeah I should

I should talk it through with my doctor after m/j

[hollow lake]

Absolutely, I remember studying people as a kid and act like they did to be perceived normal.

I only grew and became better at it

But it was always something I did, but never acknowledged doing.

[sterile heath]

Start now, the quality of your studies will improve alot

Plus, you and I both know that there is a high chance you may forget🥲

The adhd brain works much better when you have a structured day

[hollow lake]

THIS IS SO TRUE 😭

[sterile heath]

Exercise and sleep is probably the best thing before medication

Then it is just a matter of how many habits you can accumulate over the day

Since they build up really quick

Getting the necessary vitamins and omega-3 acid is very important aswell

I used to have a major issue with brain fog in the past since I didn't get the proper nutrition

Additionally, since we are still in puberty we have the huge advantage of supplementing our body with nutrients that we need in order to grow with more quality

Adults on the other hand, would have a much harder time at changing as their body is already done growing

So I'd highly advice you take care of your body as much as you can and nurture it so you can reap the benifets

Also, adhd can "dissipate" when entering adult hood

Behavioral therapy helps with that

As your brain is able to prioritize growth in what it needs, and organizes your neurological structure to adapt

[hollow lake]

I was abit shocked before you added the quotation marks 😭

[sterile heath]

It's a neurological issue, meaning it is the way your brain is structured

[hollow lake]

Does that mean that medication wouldn't be needed by then?

[sterile heath]

But besides the structure, you can be entirely ridden from ADHD

[sterile heath]

Yes

I can go off medication for around 4 days without any problem if I maintain a proper routine

Infact, my ability to focus degrades exponentially regardless if I took my medication or not

If I don't maintain a healthy lifestyle

[hollow lake]

Ohh, so it's only dependant on your life style and habits

[sterile heath]

(I say this as I'm procrastinating mathematics)

[sterile heath]

It's reliant on your lifestyle

[hollow lake]

I assumed that because our dopamine level is screwed, we'd have to depend on medications for the rest of our life

[sterile heath]

Nothing can entirely depend on something besides your heart beating

[sterile heath]

Isn't screwed, just lower baseline

[hollow lake]

(Me who's also procrastinating and has an exam in 3 days)

[sterile heath]

Our brain would actually be ideal if we were living in the stone age

We just have a different way of thinking

Not a entirely bad thing

The world is structured for people who arnt neurodivergent

Therefore it's harder for neurodivergent people to adapt

[hollow lake]

Exactly

[sterile heath]

Not entirely a bad thing, you should use it to your advantage

[hollow lake]

Advantage?

[sterile heath]

I have been called "smart" countless times just because I use my different way of thinking to my advantage

Just breakdown what adhd does to you and compare it to a more orthodox way of thinking

You'll find that you usually view stuff from different view points

More thoughts

Desire to find a solution at the end

Asking more questions

More impulsive

Etc

You also may take stuff more literally

Which I found out while speaking to my doc

There are many aspects the neurodivergent people have that other dont

And vice versa

We all lack something

[hollow lake]

Asides from procrastinating and the constant mission on searching for motivation, nothings quite advantageous about adhd because it doesn't directly help me reach my goals

[sterile heath]

And it's our job to fill them

[sterile heath]

If I'm not mistaken, Albert einstien, Bill gates, and leonardo da vinci all had adhd

One thing they had in common is that they were always outside the box

[hollow lake]

I don't think they did, people like to label that off just to make themselves feel better

[sterile heath]

And has an insatiable curiosity towards something greater

[sterile heath]

Bill gates takes meds

[hollow lake]

They were so focused, which to me, is never a trait I had before meds

[sterile heath]

Albert einstiens impulsivity and hyper focus led historians to believe so

[sterile heath]

You have a misconception with adhd

You just have the tendency to get distracted

Not the lack of focus

People with adhd can focus much more than the average person

That's a fact

[hollow lake]

That is IF they had a reason to

[sterile heath]

They just struggle to do so as it tends to only apply to stuff they enjoy

[hollow lake]

Deadlines don't work on me anymore

[sterile heath]

The people I mentioned above, all loved what they did

They were motivated by something great

They found that reason

[sterile heath]

Deadlines are horrible

[hollow lake]

But you'll eventually get bored of it because of our constant dopamine craving

Probably a spectrum

[sterile heath]

It's been proven that the brain struggles to comprehend deadlines

[sterile heath]

Not when you constantly ask questions

Prior to my mocks in igcse, I hated chemistry

It never appealed to me

I think I mentioned it once, but I got a 4/40 in my mcq

I ended up watching a small short on how 1 second can be universally determined by how fast a ceasium atom could spin

I decided to look for that reason in my book and started realizing how cool everything was once you actually read and reason

I ended up with a 34-36/40 on my real exams

Same thing with a level mathematics, I got a low A on my mocks since I didn't grasp the concepts hence they were boring, but now that I found ways to apply them in real life, I'm getting around 70/75 per past paper

Never complain about your deficiencies, find a way to turn them around

Ammend your flaws

That's what it means to live

[hollow lake]

Weirdly enough, I can't seriously picture einstein ever struggling with the symptoms of adhd. I mean although he might've been impulsive, and had other symptoms along the way. But his approach to learning doesn't accumulate my personal experience not even an ounce of it. I'm not sure if its because of the spectrum itself or that I don't know enough about his personal life.

[sterile heath]

He was also autistic so he had the urge to constantly seek his interests

It was mild high functioning

Though as long as you are not genuinely interested in what you're learning

[hollow lake]

That's incredible

[sterile heath]

I believe there is no reason to try, regardless of your mental status

There is a reason you can scroll on social media for hours

And barely complete a past paper

It's because of your lack of interest

If you can atleast trick your brain to enjoy what you're doing

Then you'll succeed

It's how the human brain is wired afterall

[hollow lake]

Now I have many questions

[hollow lake]

How can I trick it?

If it were never a struggle in the first place why would there be research about it? I mean for all there is to be I can just work with my symptoms instead of against, but what if I tried? What if everyone else did but also failed? Why shouldn't it be an excuse?

[sterile heath]

Gamify your studies, add relevance to real-life, add rewards, study with friends, visualize your success, add breaks, specific times of day tailored to studying so you constantly feel the urge to study( just like how you'd wait the whole day to go out with your friends and not do anything else), create an enviroment solely for studying to make it seem special, and use different study methods to make it more engaging,

[sterile heath]

Taking medication and doing behavioral therapy is a good thing

But it will never 100% eliminate adhd

For example, I took my medication 1 hour and 23 minutes ago and now it has taken effect while messaging you so I'm hyper focused on this conversation

There will always be flaws

You should try to use those flaws to your advantage

For example, I should've been studying 1 hour after taking my medication so I could hyper focus on my studies instead

[hollow lake]

I heard it many times from people "your mental status shouldn't be the one to blame regardless" but I think it's a quite perplexing approach. I still don't get why people say this despite all the struggle that come along the line with neurodivergence

[sterile heath]

You have the power to change

Drowning in the despair of your neurological difference will only do you injustice

Find ways to turn it around and strive for your goals

If anything, consolidating this predetermined notion that you can't do anything because of the difference you have relative to other peoples brain structure

Will only harm your way of thinking

The first thought that comes to mind when you struggle will be that difference

Making you think less and less

Leading you to spiral into complacency

[hollow lake]

But it is true

It is true that I'll never behave in a particular manner or think in a particular way because of it

[sterile heath]

And does that difference make you inferior? Or simply different?

[hollow lake]

Different maybe, inferior, not so much I guess

Academically speaking

Yes

Quite

Inferior ig

But socially, I'm like everybody else but also am not

Its complex

I have to go, nice talking to you though

[sterile heath]

I would highly suggest you watch this video in your free time as it is quite informative https://youtu.be/hFL6qRIJZ_Y?si=DpRxMKuOTzuqlNcx .

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to discuss this topic.

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[maiden phoenix]

I will see if i got time by worse i meant to say that i dont treat it well i last visited doc a really long time ago and idk if there have been any improvement ever since then but by far i think it got worse anyway do you also have adhd?