ug-biology-and-medicine

[elder island]

hey, how many hours a day do med students study?

[urban chasm]

Hi guys

[wise crest]

hi

[urban chasm]

I'm starting bio ug in a month so just joined this channel

[tawdry niche]

well depends on how seriously you take your studies lol

as a pretty average performing 1st year its like 6 hours a week or something on light weeks, it drastically increases on tests/exams

[urban ibex]

heyy

who is doing or going to do med in UK

and u r an international student

maybe that international student maybe optional

but still meds in UK

ur opinion??

[wanton magnet]

Help needed <@&597108273669341218>

[light reef]

Are u international?

[urban ibex]

si

[light reef]

As in going to UK as international

[urban ibex]

YEP

[light reef]

Do you know the fees and are you sure you can pay them

[urban ibex]

I AM SURE

i am currently doing alevels

and complete it the next year feb march

so when should i actually apply

[light reef]

If so,
Here is the deal about the UK:

1. Salaries for docs are really low so most docs try to escape
2. Med school in the UK is very strong but keep in mind that as an international competition is very tough so you need high A level grades, IELTS grades, Int performance, high UCAT/BMAT score as well as solid knowledge of the NHS and how it works, its history and principles so on
3. You must know that the UK is outside of the EU so if you wanted to work in the EU later on, you might face difficulty considering your degree is not EU
4. UK has a lot of junior doctors but not many specialists so unless they fix this soon you may find it hard to specialise especially as an international student

This is all what I heard from people in med servers and UK servers

[light reef]

Apply for 2023 entry if you finish A levels in 2023 and ask a referee to upload your reference and predicted grades

[urban ibex]

ahh kk

yeye i also know UK uni are pretty strict on their requirements

so specializing is hard u say??

[light reef]

What I heard is that it's hard to specialise in UK these days because the government isn't actually allowing many people to specialise

Whether that's true or not I'm not sure

Do your research and check

[urban ibex]

ok thankss mann

[molten abyss]

I'm starting med this year but I'm a UK student not international

It's extremely competitive and also very expensive especially as an international student

Some universities offer lots of financial support for UK students but some (eg Oxford) won't offer anything so worth checking before you apply

Also just a fun fact you can apply to Oxford or Cambridge but not both

[urban ibex]

yeye ik

however

I was actually thinking of doing meds in my country and for masters or to specialize i would go abroad

this was my actual plan until i heard that a senior of mine is doing meds in the UK

[molten abyss]

not really sure about doing a masters in the UK sorry!

but you don't need a masters to become a doctor tho

unless you want to go into research and academia?

[urban ibex]

uhh i actually wanna do research

i want to go into R & D

and in terms of specialization

[molten abyss]

nice ok

[urban ibex]

i wanna specialize in psychology

like psychiatrist or a psychologist

[molten abyss]

wow that's cool and very in demand rn

[urban ibex]

ikr

[molten abyss]

i haven't heard anything about the UK government not letting people specialise

there is a lot of encouragement to become a GP or an emergency doctor but people are still pursuing specialities

if you want to do a masters in the UK it's worth contacting the unis you want to apply to just to check they're ok with an undergraduate degree from another country

instead of finding out 3 years later that they don't accept it and you have to do your undergrad again

[urban ibex]

ok then

thankss man

appreciate it

[molten abyss]

no prbs, glad to help

[honest steppe]

hate ECG

all my homies hate ECG

[quartz hollow]

hello, is anyone applying to medical university of plovdiv for 2023 september intake? (bulgaria)

[urban ibex]

heyyy

is anyone going for medicine in India

[wanton magnet]

Help needed <@&597108273669341218>

[blazing ice]

Question for the med students this is A2 bio question edexcel boaed

isn’t this an afib?

not a healthy ecg?

[neon copper]

hii, anyone doing bds here?

[remote pivot]

Nah

[blazing ice]

what how

what is it then

[remote pivot]

A normal ecg?

Of a healthy person

It’s literally written in the q

[blazing ice]

normal healthy ecgs dont look like that tho?

look at the st segments

this is a afib

they both look the same

with screwed up segments

[remote pivot]

This doesn’t look like what’s in the question

[remote pivot]

Yea it’s a bit wierd but ig it’s considered as normal only

[blazing ice]

eh im asking regardless of the question that why i said undergrad

because we didnt take afib

and afib is considered a non critical condition

so they may have said "healthy"

[blazing ice]

normal ecg up afib down

[manic jay]

heyyy im looking for advise from a once IB student whos now studying medicine if you are fine with it pls message me TYY

[light reef]

who here is giving the MCAT

[manic jay]

What’s that? I’ve heard abt UCAT but not that

[urban ibex]

mcat is test u write in the US

after premed

[honest steppe]

anyone have a drive or account for dr najeeb lectures

[neon copper]

do lmk if u find it plz🙏

[light reef]

Anyone of u here who wrote a personal statement for UG medicine? Can I read it to get some ideas

[light reef]

Did u?

[quartz hollow]

nope, they want results and everything before july for us non eu students

[light reef]

Bruh so they don't accept predicted grades?

[light reef]

Where did u apply in Europe? I'm also planning to study medicine in Europe so it'd be nice if u could suggest me some good ones

[quartz hollow]

no 😭😭 they want official results for us

but they made an exception for only uk students

😍😍😍😍

even tho we’re doing the same thing

i’m applying to med uni of sofia in bulgaria

[quartz hollow]

depends on your budget really

my budget is VERY low so i went for schools around 30-35k dhs per year

[sullen trench]

Hahahah same

[light reef]

Dhs? Dude 6 years is no joke that's why my budget is low too lmfao

[light reef]

Ohh ye I am planning to apply there too but they don't accept direct applications ya? U gotta go through some agent or some shit plus the legalization of documents it's hella confusing and exasperating

[quartz hollow]

yeppp

30k is the cheapest you can get

[quartz hollow]

yessir

i applied through an agent

bulgarian uni are all at 35k dirhams rn

[light reef]

Ight appreciate u for letting me know

[light reef]

When's the deadline for Sofia

[quartz hollow]

last date is 29th sept

i’m sorry for replying so late

sofia changed up a few rules

only 70 places for non EU students like us

[light reef]

Wdym?

[light reef]

Do u suggest me to apply rn or after I get my results? When does the fall semester start

[quartz hollow]

you gotta apply rn

uni starts on 23rd oct i think

entrance is on 6th oct

ranking 10th

[quartz hollow]

this year they reduced the seats to only 70 for us Non EU people

crazy competition

you need to submit ur docs to uni to even be registered for entrance

[light reef]

wtf bruh

this is kinda of a legal way to be racist in every country 😭

wish i had a saudi passport sed loif

[quartz hollow]

even saudi is non EU lol

EU is all european people 🥲

[light reef]

ik but saudi grants scholarships to saudi students to study outside

[quartz hollow]

damn

pakistan just doesn’t do shit

[light reef]

ye india too

u in uae or pak?

[quartz hollow]

i’m in uae

[manic jay]

heyyy so im kinda lost rn theres a lot of pple going for medicine and i honestly have no idea how to stand out. so basically im in IBDP yr1 right now and i wanna start with extra curriculars and UCAT prep right now so if anyone knows and websites or has any PDFS for UCAT can yall send me pls and also if yall got into undergrad medicine then can u tell me what kind of extra curriculars yall did and how did yall prepair for UCAT thanks

[hybrid marlin]

Yes thank u

[plain cypress]

yass

ty

[light reef]

Why is this channel so empty?

[odd wigeon]

because we just created it yesterday

most people probably don't know about it yet

[plain cypress]

Anyone starting med in Sept 2019?

[eternal grail]

Yup. Not medicine, though

[strong mulch]

Ah

Home sweet home

Gonna be in Sept

[runic lance]

@plain cypress @echo needle is probablyyy

@strong mulch are you tho?

Why medicine? How would you overcome the challenges? Are you committed to going through it all despite the negatives? Is it worth it?

[strong mulch]

I'm not going for med

I think both This channel and the #ug-engineering

Channels

Are my future houses lol

[spice willow]

i am thinking about doing med

any tips where can i join

cause in my country there is a very complex and difficult entrance examination

and i am cureently preping for that entrance test

meanwhile, does anyone know a good med school where i can do the undergrad and grad in medicine and and is not that expensive

[plain cypress]

Malaysia’s med schools are relatively cheap

If you go to institutes like Monash or Malaya they are relatively good for med.

@spice willow

[spice willow]

and what processes do they have? like do they need our results ar they are fine with the mid term report of our school

[plain cypress]

Bmat/ukcat for some of the institutes,and a pre university course similar to A levels.

Some have interviews,some just choose you based on your grades and app.

[runic lance]

Anyone doing the UKAT/BMAT this summer?

[drifting salmon]

I need some info about MDCAT

[plain cypress]

Excited and scared to death for the month ahead

[runic lance]

why's that @plain cypress you starting uni?

[plain cypress]

Yes

Orientation on the 12th

At kings

@runic lance

[keen wren]

@plain cypress kings as in KCL?

[plain cypress]

Yes

[keen wren]

Congrats man!

I've heard it's pretty fucking good for med

[plain cypress]

Thanks

Yeah its good

Probably since i have a brother there

Helped a bit

[keen wren]

Yeah

[runic lance]

@plain cypress yass good luck omg!! How'd you get the funding?

[plain cypress]

d a d

@runic lance

[runic lance]

@plain cypress aren't you an international student?

That's a heck load of money

What was your UCAT score?

How long did you prepare for it?

How was your interview?

[plain cypress]

I averaged around 640s ,took me a month and a half to prepare

yes international

my interview went fine

they asked me about my brother,since he was doing a computer science,they did ask me how technology would be beneficial for medicine but in more confusing way

lmao

in a more*

@runic lance

I think i barely scraped by my ucat score compared to other applicants

680s rip

[runic lance]

@plain cypress 680s in each is actually good man

Proud of ya

Did you mention bro in your ps?

Lmao my bro is also doing cs

What year?

[plain cypress]

He finished

[plain cypress]

talked a kcl med applicant they got 705

lol rip

talked to

[runic lance]

Aah it's fine

[mossy thistle]

Is it necessary requirement to take ucat exam... If one is planning to do medicine in UK?

[twilit mantle]

Yup it is! @mossy thistle

[mossy thistle]

Hmmm i see thank you! @twilit mantle

[ancient sapphire]

What the actual fuck New Zealand

You can't even enter medicine using A levels

You need their "foundation" thing

smh im disappointed

[runic lance]

Rip

Is their BMBS course normally shorter than others? 4 or 5 years by chance? Normally elsewhere it's 5 or 6

[strong mulch]

Thank God I finally made it here

[junior galleon]

Anyone know how medicine programs work in the US?

And if you could do a MBBS abroad and then transfer to a med school in the US?

[runic lance]

You can do MBBS aboard and then do residency in the US, yes

But you need to give the USMLE first iirc

If you wanna get into med school in US, You gotta give MCAT

[twilit mantle]

http://physics-ref.blogspot.com/search/label/MCAT for those taking the MCAT

[odd wigeon]

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/21-yr-old-student-from-pune-and-the-curious-case-of-her-changing-hands-6301734/

Interesting case

[twilit mantle]

Very interesting whoa

[echo wing]

Anyone studying in uWinnipeg

?

[faint geode]

Hey guys, I'm currently in my final year, doing my A-levels. Could anyone give me advice on where to study medicine at a low price, as I don't want to give a huge burden to my family :p Thanks!
I cannot do UK, USA, or any high tuition fee universities as I'm an international student from Pakistan

[light reef]

@faint geode you can look at undergrad options in Europe (someone correct me if i'm wrong) but i'm pretty sure tuition there is not too high.

[faint geode]

@light reef thanks a lot

[plain cypress]

try Malaysia @faint geode

[faint geode]

@plain cypress how much is in malysia

[plain cypress]

$120K for private uni's

for the entire

degree

[faint geode]

😮

what about public

$120K for private uni's
@plain cypress

tbh thats expensive

as its 88,000 AED per year, and I cannot afford it

sorry and thanks!

[plain cypress]

public one is 60k usd

tho

or less

sorry not 60k usd

RM60k

so like 15-20k usd

[faint geode]

WOAH

thats good

per year or for full time?

[plain cypress]

The entire tuition fee

for full time students

[faint geode]

thanks

[plain cypress]

np gl with ur search

[faint geode]

Thanks dude, i'm literally in intense pressure due to searching and studying

[light reef]

Does anyone have any info about BS/MD programs in the US and their availability to international students?

Also, in my country you can't really volunteer or shadow a doctor is like a clinic or hospital (cause its not allowed), so I don't have any experience. A lot of people who apply to the BS/MD programs have a lot of experience in that area, and so will that dramatically lower my chances?

I have a a decent GPA and other extra-curriculars, but will my lack of experience really prevent be from even being considered?

[boreal lion]

Does anyone have any info about BS/MD programs in the US and their availability to international students?
whats ur degree

[boreal lion]

the clavicle is part of the rib cage?

why does it say rib 3 when it should be rib 2

and shouldnt the midclavicular line be on the left lung

<@&597108273669341218>

[light reef]

@boreal lion

There is always one that arcs below the clavicle

[boreal lion]

Ohh

So you can't feel it in percussion right

@light reef

And the line?

Isnt it supposed to go through the apex of the heart

Or is it on both sides

[light reef]

So you can't feel it in percussion right
@boreal lion
No

Or is it on both sides
@boreal lion
On both sides

[boreal lion]

Does it have a use on the right?@light reef

@boreal lion
No
@light reef wb palpation

[light reef]

Does it have a use on the right?@light reef
@boreal lion
Yep
It is necessary for movement

@light reef wb palpation
@boreal lion
Palpitation yes
But quite difficult

[boreal lion]

I meant the midclavicular line

Isnt it an imaginary line used to locate the apex

How does it help for movement

[boreal lion]

Man do i have to tag eveytime

@light reef

[light reef]

Isnt it an imaginary line used to locate the apex
@boreal lion
Yepp
Cause the apex of the heart is located close to the midclavicular line of the right clacicle, in the 5th intercostal space

How does it help for movement
@boreal lion
Ohhh
Sry
I thought u were asking bout the right clavicle

Man do i have to tag eveytime
@boreal lion
Yes😅
Or i wont see the message

[boreal lion]

@boreal lion
Yepp
Cause the apex of the heart is located close to the midclavicular line of the right clacicle, in the 5th intercostal space
@light reef yeah but on the right?

[light reef]

Thats right

[boreal lion]

whats on the right

the heart is one the left

and the midclavicular's only clinical significance is to locate the apex

which is on the left

@light reef

[light reef]

Oh sorry sorry
I mean left
My bad

@boreal lion

[boreal lion]

ah ok

[weak osprey]

Howz medicine?

Isit hard?

[light reef]

Protein Synthesis is basically Coding and Programming without a Computer🤔🤔

[boreal lion]

L

[dry vine]

Hey

[remote pivot]

hi

[onyx knot]

good lucks (:

[boreal lion]

who lied to u

[dry vine]

Organic chem II has beeeen YIKEEEES so glad it’s over

[light reef]

[light reef]

can someone pls helpp

<@&597108273669341218>

[solemn crane]

the answer is A

@light reef

[light reef]

how come?

can you pls explain @solemn crane

[solemn crane]

WAITTTT NOOO

its E

sorry for that

i was just typing and realised something wasn’t adding up

it’s E

@light reef

[light reef]

yeah i thought so too

just wanted to confirm

thank

[solemn crane]

it’s cool

sorry it took me a second

[light reef]

chill its fine

[solemn crane]

i’m not an expert, i’m in 10th grade

[light reef]

lol

alright

👍

if someone else who's serious could pls help, thanks

[solemn crane]

i’m serious :'>

and i’m correct

[light reef]

k

[solemn crane]

bro no kidding

[light reef]

yeah ik even I thought it was E

but then u said you were in 10th grade

and this is university stuff

[solemn crane]

i read bio

i have an unnervingly interest in biology

[light reef]

lol okay

[solemn crane]

i can perform an amputation😳
like ofc i havent, but i know how to

even a thoracotomy

[light reef]

👍

[solemn crane]

bro i’m not joking😂

100% serious

[remote pivot]

we get it u love bio

[remote pivot]

can u explain why?

[solemn crane]

okay

so the hypertrophic zone is where the chondrites generate at terminals of the proliferation zone, which HAS to mean that proliferation zone is farthest

[remote pivot]

oh i see

interesting

[light reef]

why is not zone of calcified cartilage

I mean why is the ans not C

[solemn crane]

that comes under the metaphysics process where the primary spongiosa slowly remodels

metaphysis**

also this is a university text channel?

i thought it was an interest one lol

[remote pivot]

no lol

[light reef]

oh is that what happens in this zone?

the zone of calcified cartilage i mean

[solemn crane]

kinda

the zone of calcification is where all the minerals are deposited

[light reef]

uh

[light reef]

isnt it where chondrocytes are about to undergo apoptosis and release matrix vesicles to osteocalcin and begin matrix calcification by the formation of hydroxy- apatite crystals.

[solemn crane]

which is why it’s not very far from the center

yeah the minerals are deposited in the matrix, what i said was basic language

[light reef]

they aren't minerals

but ok

[solemn crane]

yee i knoww

also what year you in?

and what university do you go to?

[light reef]

first year

mcgill

gonna go this fall

[solemn crane]

ah nicee

my sister’s a second year in biomedical science

i read her reference books

annnddddd i watch grey’s anatomy

[light reef]

[solemn crane]

lmaooo
that’s where my interest for bio rooted from

[light reef]

lul

just know grey's anatomy is not an accurate representation of the med field

its dramatised for tv

[solemn crane]

yeah of course

my interest rooted from there

and then i researched and read and researched

like recently i researched about 50 hormones of the human body

and now i’m reading about the mystery of the brain behind phantom limbs

[light reef]

nice

well ig if I need more help ill ping you then

[solemn crane]

lmaoo okay
i’ll try my best

[steep granite]

so this is where ill be stuck after a2 bio ...

[unique gull]

here we all are

now we're undergrads

and hopefully didn't fail at chem

[light reef]

same

tbh i think i did

but ig we'll find out in 3 days

[steep granite]

such a time has passed, since we all were solving bio doubts…

[light reef]

HELLO

pls help

I thought its d

[steep granite]

[remote pivot]

b

[light reef]

[light reef]

its cause keratinization provides protection from minor abrasions right

thanks

[remote pivot]

no cause google says so

[light reef]

oh

[remote pivot]

lol

[unique gull]

so hahahah- if anyone saw the updated mdcat syllabus

i'm scared

[steep granite]

im scared to even look at the syllabus lol

[unique gull]

: thumbsup :

i think i'll need to join an academy but like...damn

[steep granite]

do u live in pak?

ofc if u dont mind answering

[unique gull]

yep

[steep granite]

thats nice, u can easily find an academy to join

[potent copper]

Bruh I need to figure out what I want to do

Before I choose medicine which is the hardest

[light reef]

wdym?

[potent copper]

Idk I'll have to do medicine if I don't decide what I wanna do in uni

And then I'll be stuck with mdcat and all this stuff

[boreal lion]

@light reef brah brah

wouldnt his

z line get dilated

and vomit n shit how do u not fk that up

[remote pivot]

what is this

[boreal lion]

stomach

lmfao

[remote pivot]

bruh lol

[boreal lion]

tf???

[remote pivot]

why did u delete it tho

[boreal lion]

not me

[remote pivot]

oh

one of the mods then

[boreal lion]

they prolly thought its an undercover dic pic

[remote pivot]

[stable crow]

No but it was still nsfw-

[boreal lion]

how?

[stable crow]

Oh how is the inside of a stomach NSFW?

[boreal lion]

yes?

in a med channel ? XD

u take endoscopy in high school bio buddy

but nvm idc anyway

[light reef]

pliz help

[boreal lion]

@light reef not A cuz tfs bind to dna and rna polymerase not c cuz idfk doesnt make sense not d cuz hydrophobic so its prolly b

but ionno what c is tbh

[steep granite]

e is a very terrifyin option O-O

[light reef]

aight thanks

[boreal lion]

its e if c is true but that shit gives me anxiety

[light reef]

yea im not sure abt C either

[boreal lion]

do they mean same class of regulators? or just transcriptional protiens in general

if its the first then its a v hard q but if its the second then its a 7th grade q

my brain is melting

[light reef]

i think just transcriptional protiens in general

[boreal lion]

yeah then its wrong lol

[light reef]

i dont get it lel

is C correct?

so then is E the ans?

tbh yeah I think C is correct

so then e ig

anyways thx

btw way @boreal lion which uni you in?

[boreal lion]

no wrong

cuz

there are many classes of trans protien

ionno them individualalllaly but i knw thehr emore than one

[light reef]

yes

[boreal lion]

one of the examples is

apoptotic/anti apoptotic

protiens so that auto makes c wrong

[light reef]

ahh

okay

which uni you in?

[light reef]

[fresh oracle]

Anyone please i need some advice regarding medicine??

[boreal lion]

what

[light reef]

Pls be more specific do you mean getting into university, or do you need help with something else?

[fresh oracle]

It's regarding which course would be best, like an accelerated BS/MD program or the regular route of pre-med and then medical school?

[light reef]

accelerated BS/MD is if you are 100% sure you wanna do med

you can't really back out

and it would be a lot more intensive

like ALOT more

cause your doing 8 yrs worth of knowledge in 5-6 years

which for medicine is very difficult

higher chances of burn out

but

if you do the accelerated path, you dont have to do the hassle that is applying for med school

which imo is better but i know 100% i wanna do med

do you feel 100% about it?

then go for the accelerated path

[steep granite]

There are unis which go upto 8 yrs?
Cuz in my home country all med unis are upto 6 yrs.

[light reef]

In the states and canada it's 4+4 yeah 8 years typically

4 undergrad and 4 med

Plus 3-7 residency

For extremely specialised fields

[steep granite]

why is undergrad and med different? does 4 yrs of med include specialization in specific areas?

[light reef]

No

[steep granite]

so a general doctor?

[light reef]

Undergrad is premed it's a requirement in western countries for medical school admission

[light reef]

Yeah MD

[steep granite]

and this is after high school completion?

[light reef]

Yea

Undergrad is after high school

And medical school is after undergrad

[steep granite]

im already freaking out studying 6 yrs, and here ppl go for 8..

[light reef]

It's quite a bit of time

But being a doctor is one of the most respected professions

[steep granite]

true

btw is housejob included in these 8 yrs?

[light reef]

Housejob?

Not familiar with that term

Is that just residency?

If it is then no the houejob is seperate

[steep granite]

like 1 yr internship thingy after completing med school before getting a job

[light reef]

Ah

In western countries it's more than 1 year

Generally 3-7 yrs

But you start earning a bit during those years

Some are also 2 years

[steep granite]

hmm, thats 4+4+3 = 11 years before becoming a general doctor

[light reef]

Yep

11-12 Years for a general physician

[steep granite]

thats very shocking, ppl here complete their specialization too in all these years

[light reef]

Hm yeah

Well ig that's a part of the reason western countries have good healthcare

The healthcare system may be flawed but

Quality of treatment is higher than the rest of the world

European and Western countries

[steep granite]

thats true actually

anyways, thnx for the info

[light reef]

Ye np

[fresh oracle]

and also how bout MD/DO program which would be better to study??

[boreal lion]

its the opposite

4 years undergrad is not med

u could choose health sciences or neurology

and then 4 years of med

instead of extended 6 years of med

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[light reef]

What?

Are you taking about the accelerated pathway?

[light reef]

I said 8 years worth of knowledge not 8 years worth of medical knowledge

[boreal lion]

u said itll be intensive

[light reef]

Yes

It will be no?

Your doing a 4+4 course in 2 or 3+4 years

It will be intensive

[boreal lion]

nooo

in the 4+4 med is 4 years only instead of 6

so 4+4 is more intensive

[light reef]

Huh

[boreal lion]

yes

[light reef]

Are you talking about western countries?

[boreal lion]

im talking about the programs

[light reef]

Cause med school is 4 yrs there

[boreal lion]

yes

[light reef]

Not 6

[boreal lion]

so its more intensive

cuz u take 6 years worth of shit in 4 years

[light reef]

Ok so you are comparing the 6 yrs in @steep granite 's country with the accelerated pathway

Im comparing the normal pre-med then med and accelerated med pathways

[boreal lion]

yes

[light reef]

Aight so we are comparing two different things

Ok then yes

What you said is true for what you were comparing

[fresh oracle]

But accelerated program doesn't offer scholarships so that's a big problem.

[light reef]

they don't?

I didn't know that

[boreal lion]

they do

depends on the uni

[light reef]

Yes

Depends

[fresh oracle]

Most accelerated program offers upto maximum of only 20%

[light reef]

It might be very hard to get tho

Probably is

Oof

[boreal lion]

mine gives 70%

[light reef]

Well something is better than nothing 😂

[boreal lion]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[light reef]

Which is that?

Which uni

Nice

That's cool

[fresh oracle]

Which uni are u from??

[light reef]

Ye so most do it's just harder to get

[boreal lion]

which country are u applying to @fresh oracle

[fresh oracle]

Any country which can give me a good scholarship with a internships opportunity..😂

[light reef]

Haha

Western med schools tend to give local students more scholarships

[boreal lion]

try turkey

or qatar

[boreal lion]

gives a no interest loan based on ur papi's income

[fresh oracle]

To international students really??

[boreal lion]

yeye

google qatar foundation universities

[fresh oracle]

Do they have like accelerated program or normal 8 years??

[boreal lion]

6 years

even amurican universities are 6

[fresh oracle]

amurican??

[boreal lion]

yeye

[fresh oracle]

I can't find amurican on google??

[boreal lion]

first few are amouraycan

[fresh oracle]

Yeah i got this list, I am trying to find the academics and admissions process..

[boreal lion]

for which one

[fresh oracle]

I mean like for all of then..

[boreal lion]

https://qatar-weill.cornell.edu/admissions/medical-program/six-year-medical-program/requirements

[fresh oracle]

Is it like we have a common application we need to submit to Qatar foundation or seperate applications to uni??

[boreal lion]

to unis

every one has its own requiremnts

u apply for shit on their website after ur admitted

[fresh oracle]

This system sounds pretty interesting..

Thanks @boreal lion for help!!

[boreal lion]

yeye np

[fresh oracle]

hey @boreal lion or any other member, I want another help and i.e. can you please tell me which more countries i can apply for fully funded scholarship for Medical program other than Qatar and turkey?? Thanks in Advance.

[light reef]

im sorry but if you are an international student at least in USA/canada you most likely will not get a full scholarship for med

like close to a 0% chance imo

[fresh oracle]

Yes i know that sadly but i am looking for other countries which would as a back up plan for me..

[light reef]

ah okay

[boreal lion]

its not about the country its about each uni

theres a uni in saudi that costs like 30k but if u get more than 4.5 gpa it becomes $7k

its a good uni in a shit city

or get a sugar mommy

[fresh oracle]

Bro that's crazy!!

[fresh oracle]

But actually it's true...

[steep granite]

for medicine?

[boreal lion]

ye

[steep granite]

can u tell me the name of it

[boreal lion]

but its too shitty

conservative muslim type shitty

the uni is contracted with maastricht in holand so ull get ur degree from there

[steep granite]

i see, i just wanna research bout it

whats its name?

[boreal lion]

SRU

[boreal lion]

@steep granite med is 5 years in this uni

u skip first year if u have A2 or whatever

[steep granite]

I see but it’s excluding housejob/internship yes?

[boreal lion]

housejob?

yes excluding

[steep granite]

i see

[fresh oracle]

Bro my answer please, I am making a list of unis and your help will be really appreciated..

[boreal lion]

countries dont matter

turkey is cheap and qatar has good scholarships but no uni just gives full scholarships

[fresh oracle]

Cool bro!! Leave it i will try to research..

[weak spear]

Yo guys can someone plzzzzzzz help me and send me any UCAT and BMAT materials

I don’t know why I did that to myself but I applied for both without actually knowing from where to study

Primarily cause I thought you don’t study then lolz

But now I am panicking and I cry so plz help

[fresh oracle]

https://www.med-soc.co.uk/

Try this

[weak spear]

Oh noice thanks so much

[weak spear]

Wait so I checked it out and it just says you have to book an event and at the end of the day they’ll give you UCAT access

I would’ve done that but all events are in the uk and I don’t think any of them are online

[fresh oracle]

I think i gave u the wrong link

https://www.medentry.co.uk/what-is-ucat-and-how-to-prepare-for-it

Use this link..

[weak spear]

Ye that’s very helpful 👌 thank you so much

[fresh oracle]

Anyone with good topic ideas for research paper writing for high school student related to medicine?? please, help me..

Thanks in Advance BTW..

[boreal lion]

Usually stem cells and whatnot

Cancer vaccine

Uhhhh ummm

Diabetes prevention

In ur country

Shit like that

or u can just do random epidiomology shit for any disease common in ur country

@fresh oracle if u want stuff or whatever go to pubmed and search for waht u want

[weak spear]

If you want to be like everyone else go with anything corona virus related

Also you’ll find plenty of resources

Or you could go with mental health and such but hmm ye you decide

You could do tuberculosis cause why not really

But ye the suggestions by prince are really good ^

[fresh oracle]

Those are really good solution..

I will surely try to work on some, if i ever find a doctor as mentor..

[boreal lion]

Idt there's any good research on that we already have treatment and all that stuff eh

[weak spear]

[steep granite]

Can anyone tell the difference between ganglia and glial cells?

<@&597108273669341218>

[remote pivot]

neuroglial cells provide 'supporting' functions to the actual nerves in CNS

like astrocytes provide blood barrier between the nerve and the blood vessel so that no toxic substance can pass thru

but ganglia consists of actual nerves which transmit electric singles

kinda likea relay station

e.g. dorsal root ganglion in the spinal cord

[steep granite]

isnt is a collection of cell bodies of sensory neurons?

in PNS

[remote pivot]

yes

@steep granite yes it is

[steep granite]

So its never made up of cell bodies of motor neurons, as they are present inside CNS? Am I gettin it right?

[remote pivot]

motor neurone isnt in the CNS

its usually found attached to sensory organs

the ganglia contains sensory neurons

wait im confused now

[steep granite]

cell bodies of motor neurons are in CNS

but cell bodies of sensory neurons are in PNS - forming ganglion

[remote pivot]

yes yes

i just got confused between CNS and PNS sorry

[steep granite]

issokkay

so dorsal root ganglion consists of sensory neuron's cell bodies

what about sympathetic / parasympathetic ganglion?

[remote pivot]

uh

i havent learnt that yet

[steep granite]

they have post ganglionic neuron's cell bodies only right?

[steep granite]

oh

its alright

ty for the previous help

[remote pivot]

np

[steep granite]

If anyone knows, pls confirm this

[steep granite]

Wait, glia is always in CNS, not in PNS?

It’s supporting cells so they are present in both ig

Schwann cells are type of glial cells

[remote pivot]

noo

not in both

only in CNS

oiligodendrocytes form the mylien sheath in brain

[remote pivot]

they are?

[steep granite]

Yea

[steep granite]

And motor and sensory neurons in PNS have myelin sheath too

Here

[remote pivot]

oh i see

[remote pivot]

<@&597106595373121536>

help

[remote pivot]

🥲

[twilit mantle]

Don't you need some initial volume / mass of the reactants?

[light reef]

Yeah lol whats the rest of the question

[remote pivot]

nope

this is all thats given

[remote pivot]

this is the entire questino

[twilit mantle]

Assume you use one mole of reactant then?

Then it's just one mole of CO 2

[remote pivot]

the equation is balanced btw

[remote pivot]

they are asking for volume

[twilit mantle]

Yeah, volume of one mole of gas under RTP is 24 dm^3 right😂

I mean it's also weird that they don't specify RTP and STP

[remote pivot]

the answer is 11.2 L lol

[twilit mantle]

Tf kind of numbers are they even using

[twilit mantle]

Find the number of moles of this tho, let's go backwards

[light reef]

O bruh

[remote pivot]

its assumed its STP

so 22.4 L

so if answer is 11.2L

[twilit mantle]

Okay we're getting somewhere

It's 0.5 moles

[remote pivot]

then no of mole is 1/2

yea

[twilit mantle]

But why... Use half

[remote pivot]

exactly

thats why im confused

[twilit mantle]

Can you ask your coaching centre or sth

[remote pivot]

ive posted my doubt

still no reply

rip

[twilit mantle]

Eee

Ask them specifically why you assume half

[remote pivot]

im guessing it has something do with equivalent

that word is sus

[remote pivot]

yuh i did

thanks anyway

[twilit mantle]

Nws

[remote pivot]

ill try to figure it out myself

[twilit mantle]

😂 😂

Is there the previous question that links with this or sth

Like yk in SAT how they use some information across 2 questions

[remote pivot]

uh yea this was an MCQ

idt previous questions matter

[remote pivot]

ohhh i got it

[twilit mantle]

What was it?

[remote pivot]

u have to find the equivalent weight of Na2CO3

and then the gram equivalent

and its a known fact that in balanced chemical equations the gram equivalent of each substance is equal

so gram equivalent of Na2CO3 = CO2

from there just find volume

[twilit mantle]

Oo

[elder island]

is as hard as other people really say it is.

they say med student dont get to enjoy and stuff like others students, is it true?

also do u need phy for med? found out in indua u do...but what about other countries?

pls message me privately 🙂

[boreal lion]

shouldnt this be C

the answer 🔑 says B with a shitty explanation

<@&597108273669341218>

[boreal lion]

Ohhh okay got it thanksss

[remote pivot]

bruh lol

[light reef]

welcome

[fresh oracle]

Anyone who is writing a Research paper??

here??

[boreal lion]

Ya

[light reef]

Ya

[boreal lion]

im not writing actually

im typing

[fresh oracle]

So are ya tying alone this paper??

[fresh oracle]

Just need to know, if i can write my paper alone..

[stable crow]

Anyone can

But publishing is the difficult part

[light reef]

how do you go about publishing?

is it through professors?

[stable crow]

You submit it to a journal for peer review

[light reef]

oh I see

[stable crow]

Yeah usually

issa lil more complicated

[light reef]

ye kk

ive got to start on that 😩

[boreal lion]

pugs how many citations do u have

millions obv but how many

@stable crow

[boreal lion]

@stable crow

are you sleeping

[manic plover]

@boreal lion can u use this channel properly bro

[boreal lion]

@manic plover no

[manic plover]

?warn @boreal lion for breaking rule 4

[pastel torrent]

! 0#6524 has been warned, this is their first warning.

[boreal lion]

🙀

[manic plover]

I cba with this

[boreal lion]

🙀

[light reef]

lol

[remote pivot]

<@&597106595373121536> help

[light reef]

d?

[remote pivot]

no C

[light reef]

Ok

[boreal lion]

nice bio

[remote pivot]

and medicin

[light reef]

That's not medicine either

[remote pivot]

well its chemistry

medicine has chemistry as a subject no?

well idk where else to ask

no one will be able to answer it in as or a2 chem

[light reef]

No

[twilit mantle]

biochem is a module that they do

at least one of my friends did

[boreal lion]

isnt biochem either

but its n because

wait my great grandfather is calling

[elder island]

is it possible to join medicine after writing A leveles in Edexel?
in universities anywhere in the world.....
pls message me privately....thx

[light reef]

UK maybe

pls anyone

what do I have to include here

250 words idk what to write

[boreal lion]

Wikipedia pubmed mashup

[light reef]

plagiarising is a big no no

[remote pivot]

just read what the process is and then write it in own words?

[light reef]

Bruh but I dont get the process

[remote pivot]

oh

[boreal lion]

When is it due

[queen turtle]

znask set "Biology Helper"

[stoic trail]

Znotes Community Bot

Set <@&597108273669341218> as the help role here!

Sep 15, 2021, 5:03 AM

[light reef]

pls help

[boreal lion]

Hmmm

Oh wait is that

A pancreas?

Those look like islets

@light reef

[light reef]

nah mate thats the hair follicle

but idk what exact structures they are

[boreal lion]

Ok so exocrine gland

[light reef]

but the cell layers?

[boreal lion]

We have acini cells in the middle

And the then duct tubes

Lemme check histo rq

[light reef]

ohh k thx

[boreal lion]

The black part is

Papilla

Here

@light reef

[light reef]

ohh shitt

thanks

and ig the bottom arrow is Huxley's Layer right

has the dark purple granules

[boreal lion]

Yes

For us hairs is 4th year so

Didnt take it yet

[light reef]

oh kk

thanks i got it now

i was having a hard time differentiating those 3 layers, cuticle of inner sheath, huxley's and henle's

[boreal lion]

What book do u use?

[light reef]

junqueira's basic histology

[boreal lion]

Yes that

[light reef]

15th ed

[boreal lion]

They tell u how to differentiate no?

[light reef]

yes but i just started the course yesterday so was having a hard time

[boreal lion]

Ah

Histo is very gay

[light reef]

so I just wanted to confirm my thinking was correct

yeah lol

i dont like it

[boreal lion]

Theres a guy wait

[light reef]

at all

[boreal lion]

Ok nvm all histo guys are gay too

Watch random videos its way better than reading book first time

[light reef]

lol ill try that

[boreal lion]

Yea

[boreal lion]

what

[boreal lion]

dont u have Dr beside ur name

answer

[remote pivot]

idt anyone here can u help u xD

maybe @light reef

[gray hound]

just a question is that medprep or smthing or wtver the name of that question bank site is

[boreal lion]

No

[light reef]

No

I don't know

[boreal lion]

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[remote pivot]

still want help?

[boreal lion]

Nah got it

[remote pivot]

aite

[boreal lion]

what was ur answer tho

[light reef]

bruh

[remote pivot]

ive no idea how to do it

[boreal lion]

Do me instead

[remote pivot]

ok

[boreal lion]

Are you working?

[boreal lion]

Swuatwird

[pulsar valley]

hi what’s the best way to structure a medical personal statement?

[bleak lagoon]

i need help im trying to find a hospital that can do covid 19 test

which specialty is that

[bleak lagoon]

znask

[stoic trail]

<@&597108273669341218>

[topaz vine]

bruh

[twilit mantle]

You don't need a specialised hospital

[bleak lagoon]

It’s for research

[twilit mantle]

you'll want respiratory therapists then

[bleak lagoon]

The research is about finding the covid testing centre in turkey, like I try finding it its hard so I came across this website where they give me the list of hospital and they divide the hospital to many specialty

[bleak lagoon]

I have no knowledge about this channel I just need help with this part

[twilit mantle]

Why don't you just find testing centres instead of hospitals then? Any large-scale lab should work

[light reef]

^

doesn't have to be hospitals

[bleak lagoon]

i trieeddd for 3 days, (until now as we are speak)

i legit found nothin

😦

[bleak lagoon]

i know but this is all i have

[stone orchid]

hii don’t know where to ask this but.. would you say taking the three sciences for as levels with the intention of medicine are good options or should i also take maths?

[steep granite]

If ur sure to go in med then yes, 3 sciences in A levels

But maths can be really helpful in understanding some parts of sciences, and generally a useful thing in ur future ie like incase u decide not to do med, then maths along with chem and phy can give u a large variety of professions to chose

@stone orchid

I’d recommend to take maths if u can handle 4 subs, I did take 4 of them, it isn’t very un-manageable, but if u feel u can’t give enough time, or ur unable to do, then it’s up to u if u wanna drop it

It kinda also varies from person to person, ik ppl who got amazing grades in 5 subjects and also ppl who only took 2 subjects (depending on uni)

[gray hound]

Legit what seleno said
Maths is rly helpful for phys and chem
Also if ur taking maths dont take mechanics, take stats 1 and 2 (and pure math 1 and 3 ofc)

Also

Afaik they will teach u calculus anyways in 1st yr med its decently important

But take it with a grain of salt not 100% sure

I have seen it defo for biology, neuroscience, etc

[stone orchid]

thank you guys. it's just that i really hate maths tbh so i'd rather not take it. i'll think about it though, if i get good in my math gcse i'll consider adding maths since they let us change our options afterwards.

[light reef]

You should make sure you still fulfill all pre-reqs for your university cause maths is very important

[honest steppe]

what site do u guys use for mcqs etc?

[honest steppe]

Says the dex build enjoyer

[blazing ice]

hello

im here

to screw up

the concept of medicine

[tawdry niche]

.....

my brain...

[steep granite]

Honestly a good qn, could u get the answer?

[blazing ice]

well idk if its a good question

but

but the answer for the radiation part is basically

radiations

will screw u up

thats in short

lmfao

and the first part im not sure

[molten abyss]

Cell division is carefully monitored

It’s rare that a cancer causing mutation takes place

Also to get cancer several mutations in a row need to occur

And the body tends to spot and destroy cells that will likely become cancerous

In an embryo the cell division is very tightly controlled by regulatory genes etc but in a cancer there’s no regulation so uncontrolled cell division can take place

Tbh the real answer is probably more complex than that

[blazing ice]

true but gives a bright idea of the ans

[boreal lion]

google teratoma

[light reef]

uh guys

i took bio phys maths and business (ik odd combo)

for a levels

so

am i eligible for medicine ?

probably not acc to my research

but just making sure

[abstract elbow]

I feel like you might need chemistry

[remote pivot]

depends on the uni

but i think for med u would need chem

[fervent skiff]

guys if i don’t take bio and only take maths physics chem am i eligible for medicine?

[boreal lion]

depends on the uni some ask for math + any 2 sciences