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until it stopped and later at some point just made life worse for me
and its a fellow stranger who helped me get over it
my best friend now lol
anyways strangers are sometimes useful too.....
i hope thinggs work out for you
oh and its ok to feel sad dont supress any feelings
just makes recovery harder
No
Makes sense
Thats rough buddy
hi
Thank you, I appreciate it alot
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Just putting my thought out there and coming to read what you guys said later makes me feel better especially after I've calmed down
@willow rover
see u do what u feed ur brain
feed it positivity
it will help you do good
keep urself to a timer
for every small task you acomplish
treat urself
slowly increase the margin
you'll improve
I belive in you
It makes me acknowledge the fact that despite how much people don't understand you and your feelings fully, but they still care and sometimes would take some time from their day just to talk to you. You guys have no idea how much I needed this, and how appreciative I am of your existence. I don't know how to thank you guys, I really don't. Thank you so much@placid folio @boreal leaf @quiet wave @mild compass
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Thank you
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your existence makes someones day <3 keep pushing through the bad days you will make it
I'll do what I can to aid myself throughout it all
I thought that I was alone and that probably added a huge burden to my soul. I feel better now that I realise that people care and would do what it takes to make you feel less alone. You have honestly have no idea how much you guys mean to me. That time specifically was especially a time where I could of done something I would regret
I'm glad I got something out of it all, may God bless you guys <3
may God bless you immensely and give you strength to cope π
Ameen and all of us together yarab
Np 
see told ya strangers sometimes helpful
i think this is well said
thankyou
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hope u feel better soon
feeling sorry for u with 69 others
W
i feel so burnt out π§π»ββοΈ
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
oh thats great mashAllah
yeahh, spelled like that too, u got that from the spotify thing i have or?
π
Hi guys, is there anyway I can feel less stressed? I feel I'm constantly feeling anxious, insecure and stressed out since the past few days and it's also taking a toll on my health. It's primarily because I won't get into a good college but also due to just my insecurities and I absofuckinglutely hate it. I don't even know why my insecurities are acting up when there's nothing to trigger it as such.
if anyone can suggest something it'll be of great help thanks
:(
the universities that you applied to is a greater indicator of future success than the university you went to π―
Insecurities are normal dw u are not alone and as for feeling anxious try being around ppl you love and ppl who actually cherish you or best do stuff u enjoy doing give urself space take time off and relax.eat something good and binge watch your favorite movies or shows.. might helpp
I'm sorry but how does that make any sense π
the thing is I also have to study rn, and I can't focus properly on it because of the insecurities popping up so frequently. And see the insecurities have always been there okay but they've not acted up so bad and all at once so I'm just overwhelmed. Anything I do, they keep running on the back of my head and I can't focus or enjoy anything
Alright try crying it always helpps
And if u like have time and don't have some important exam coming up maybe give urself a day off and as for insecurities try reassuring yourself
U will do great dw!!
thank you, ill try distracting myself
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Garhhhhh
Nws, and itt will all be okay!! Dw u got thiss
guys my one cat is being distant from me, what do i do apart from eating it
Eat it bro
alright
Iβm sad
why dear
i feel useless π
Nah I could care less about studying
its ok u deserve a day off break π₯°
Ok
very sweet mort dear but Iβve taken way too many days off π
real
Youβre a hypocrite I thought u were male
hi mush
Hi
I am
No youβre not
how ru
biggest lies of 2024
- mush being male
Shocked
no male acts all bestie bestie with another female thats just cring
Alhamdulilah, wby
π
Youβre my bestie
good
Cmere
nah
hi khaled
hi mort
Howβs prep mortiibbbii
how u doin
its going up and down
for people to gaze at my achievements
ππ
what does it all mean
my prep
ππππππππππππππ
Real
ive been there lmao
Damn
just say it is what it is and move on fr
It all makes sense now wow
wait i have something that might help
Alright imma say it is what it is and move on
I actually donβt know lmao I just feel very unwanted
its not wrong tho
that is the easiest way to be happy
just dont care
π€·ββοΈ
Genuinely no clue
Iβve never been this active on discord tbh
Maybe the immense use of devices?
Idfk man
Desplr
Tf is that
maybw go sit with family
Maybe idk
I was just sitting with them π
I guess it kinda helped idk?
Recently yes
Also majority of my friends including my bsf been on a social media break cuz cies so maybe thatβs the case too
Idfk bro itβs happening rn thatβs all ik but maybe π
Maybe
I just downloaded valo
Re downloaded
Maybe that helps idk
Lmao why π
It used to help me
Wow
Inter
I get it
Thank you
May you be the source of my
Morphine
?
LMAO
ONG
Yeah yeah uk
of course, best dealer in the country fr
dopamine receptors
Wait lemme dm u smth
in the world*
shit your tone of texting changed
somethings really wrong huh
dang
hope she feels better
Thanks
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Thanks
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Lmao itβs alright Dw thanks
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yes
Lmao want some therapy?
Atp way too many ppl be truama dumping in my DMs
And I feel the need to help each and everyone
I feel drained
its okk u also need to let it out somewhere
Holy W
Yeah ig so
Gets draining ong
Also I miss my cat
it does
my advice still stands tho
Yessirrr
it might sound a bit insensitive but that actually is a pretty effective method
wtvr it is u got this fr
Nah I know it does
Yet I be trying to find peace in music
Shit donβt work like that
Need to let go of it π
Thanks a lot
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i feel you dude i been through it too
i mean its probably annoying to hear 'it'll get better' smh because thats what everyone says
but it does
π€« nows not the time
music is fire
π₯ top tier advice
ARIA MATH π£οΈπ₯
C418 RAHHHHHH
Is it mean or did the voice message button disappear
WHAT
I just noticed
How to send vm π
Guys how do you not loose motivation
We only have one life
right
regret is painful
I diddnt think of it that wayπ
Parle beta
Oh my god i think ive found the one
And i dont know what to do
Well ofc ik what to do
Focus on studies and what not
But like
I think shes the one guys
How dyk
Cuz shes funny, shes intelligent and a whole lot more
average delusion
Brother i dont think she'd accept
Tru but yk this time it feels different
thats what they all say buddy
But just to make sure ima spend more time on this and see if its fr or not
k anyway bye
Well, for one she wants to stop talking to me
Ofc.
Im not dumb
Yk what if it goes to that, sure why not try?
Go big or go home right
The gym session is gonna go craaaaazy dw
She said so
π
Then why do u think she the one
Good point
Lmao if she don't wanna talk to u do u think it will work out
Yeah but don't let ur grades downn
Back to the grind damn it
Please do, godamn I hate it when guys are speeding up. Learn about her and just basically befriend her
Why do you think she's doing that though?
She said studies but i dont buy it
She probably doesn't like you
Yeah think so too
Look
Even if she did, shes too shy to admit it
Do you think its just because of studies?
Nope
What did you even tell her that it reached to that point
I'm assuming you confessed to her before you got to know her better
Nah i didnt
When i asked her if she liked me she didnt deny it
I respect your privacy, I'd only like to understand the situation to see if it's okay to approach her again or not
Yeah i get it but theres some things u just cant say yk
Its more of a im not really sure
Ofcourse yeah, there's no problem
What are u not sure about
Her reasoning
Ohh
As an older dude, my advice is if you like someone make it known
Where is the pary, naambu oorlu party
The regret of never telling her is stronger than the pain of rejection trust me
It's okay to doubt it, and dw she might as well not be sure if she wants to be around you. If you weren't friends with her before, then it's your chance to prove your existence around to her
Maybe in this time you'll know her better and you're able to decide whether she's the one or not
One thing is
Theres a few stages to getting to know someone for the sake of love
3 to be exact
What are they I'm curious now lol
oh hey karthik
- The talking stage (people get to know each other through conversations, texts, and spending time together. It's characterized by casual interactions and discovering common interests.)
long time no see
Hey man sup was touching grass for a bit
same lmao
i left
for a bity
bit*
Yeah fairs
- The dating stage? (once you are sure that that person is for you you're able to decide whether you want to let it escalate and start being all romantic, this is normally identifiedwhen both parties are alreadycomfortablewith eachother ans are able to dive into deep conversations and not afraid of doing that)
- Once you are sure you guys are meant to be you're able to decide on whether or not you want to remain friends or start a relationship
That's it
I know many people who jump straight into number 3 WHICH IS WRONG NEVER DO THIS OMG
That's a lot of work lol
Well then :T
Most girls get turned off when you skip through stages quickly, don't be surprised if she leaves u ._.
I'm not saying to go directly to "let's date" that's a bit ridiculous
But don't spend forever talking to her
If you skip we will immediately assume that you don't want us for us, but only for our looks because you don't know us on a hardcore level
The number of times I've gotten friend zoned cos I was trying to get to know the girk
Yeah its slow
Very
Very slow
Its about comfort
If you make her feel comfortable you're good to go
She won't be comfortable with you if you just suddenly wanna befriend her lol
We are confusing as shit
EXAM KAAM AYEN GE, LARKIYA NHI
Look just know this, and you'll be fine
We never cared about the looks
We care about what's inside more
Sure looks help, but if you prove to her that your personality is made out of gold, she's going to love you
Or bro zone u maybe
Yeah love isnt always intertwined
Sometimes someone may love the other more than that person, it's common. Move on
It would only give you experience
So it's an advantage rather than a disadvantage
See, life isn't all about being a relationship. Sure its wonderful to be in one, but its thrice as wonderful to create a promising future for yourself
So throughout it all, learn about people, learn about the opposite gender. And theres no shame because you're only gaining knowledge and experience
Don't shy away and just get out of your comfort zone, you're only doing your future self a favour. There's no reason to be afraid of rejection, expose yourself to it. This is life
FOR REAL
RO7Y ZAKRY
KOL DA MATGEEB LEK A* YA BNTY
English pls
"GO STUDY" "ALL OF THAT COULD'VE GOTTEN YOU AN A*" (if you applied that same knowledge in studying she means)
Ahh fairs
Also wait a minute wtf you where here since 2018 π
Yeah lol
Bro how old are you π
I'm 22, what to do I kept failing my A levels :(
Not a problem
Dw
You're not alone, are you in uni currently?
people here are that old?
Not most people
damnn but still
I used to be on the team a long time ago
That's why I keep coming back here, I did a bunch of work building out this server in the early days
So nostagia
but its so amazing that you still stuck to this server bro
Right bros a real one
that must have been so long ago
I don't have the heart to leave tbh
ZNotes gave me a lot
So I like to come back here let some steam off maybe give some kid a bit of life advice
BRO ARE YOU ONE OF THE WRITERS
No I was tech lead
give advice for ig plz :(
Wot
I ran the team that built ZNotes.org in the early days
SO YOU DEVELOPED THE WEBSITE
Ofc it's changed hands a lot since but about 40-50pc of it is probs work I either did myself or got someone to do
Bros talking like he's old when he's 22 π°
A lot has happened since I left uni I feel older lol
22 isn't old sir are you good-
I had to support myself last two years of uni
24 hour grind sessions and going hungry at the end of the month changes ya ig
I once ate pasta for 10 days straight every meal cos I couldn't afford anything else
Omg that sucks dude, I'm so proud that you're out of it now
Students are literally survivors
Like the fucking stress is real and yet our parents expect us to brush things off because they simply had it "worse"??
Idk bruh they be acting like the climbed mountains for a living to get their phd
i think its not cs of the age
but how much happened during it
sm ppl go thru a lot at a young age
I've gone from begging dad for grocery money to sending him money every month
You're right
and mature like that
Massive W imo
WWWWWW
You sir are a living W ππβ¨
My little sister is in IG now
I want her to have access to the same opportunities I did
For uni and shit
So if my Β£ can help with that a bit all good
How did you get through uni? Did you join a server that helped you throughout your major?
I haven't been the best brother to her cos of my own issues, at one point I wanna do the right thing
Nah I made friends irl lol
How do yall make friends in uni
I was told it's hard asf
In person lectures just start talking to the person next to you
Or go to events
The thing with uni is you have to work for your own social life
You won't make friends by just existing like in school
karthik give advice for IG π
I'm so nervous π
idk im left with 7 days or what and gettinf Ds litr
IG isn't that hard in the grand scheme of things
I wanna make frens jus by existing :(
Just put in consistent effort and grind past papers and you'll be okay
You're a girl it might be a bit easier for yo
To be fair I am in the UK cultural differences could play a role
Do you think I should start off pastpapers? (Me who didn't even start ict theory)
Yeah it creates a feedback loop
I think it's the opposite, GUYS HAVE IT EASIER WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL LIFE
No I mean do I study notes first or pastpapers immediately?
Okk
Do one round of the notes then pastpapers to set a base line
I think girls have more friends and guys have better friends from what I've seen
the issue is i didnt do consistent topicals after every chp in maths, i did do sm topics in detail after seeing that i was doing bad in vectors and differentiation, but im legit messing up at least one q from every single topic
i took ict igcse
if you ace the two practical papers
I might only have a few peeps I consider true friends, but they'll sort me out with damn near anything
and i dont have time to just do topicals now
you are set for an A/ A*
GIRL I HATE THEORY IM GONNA BREAK SOMETHING
do relatively well in theory
ive done 2 papers of maths only ig
i entered the exam not knowing half of the theory syllabus
If you pull topical questions you can eventually find like 10 questions of the same type
but im still scared
Do all of them
IG maths is just endless practice
Thank u jurii
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I finished it alr
getting full marks in them is easy
I'm now faced with m/j
so do u think i should just do topicals and grind them in these remaining 7 days or sth or should i keep on doing past papers and i will improve?
Ah
interesting
do 3-5 qs of each chap topical, then do yearlys
and yea i got ds literally
Hmmm alternate b/w topicals and full papers
The idea is to find your weaknesses as fast as possible and patch them up
Let me say one thing. bro. Just do more pastpapers and that's it. dont look back at your notes PASTPAPERS IN MATH TRUST MEEEEEE
yeah
Aim to get at least partial marks in every question
Man I miss IG
The exams I mean
It was shit scary at the time
cant imagine myself missing any of this icl
But at least there was a clear path to solve every problem
Now that I'm older all my problems need me to figure shit out from scratch
yeah ive been told uni and further are way more hectic and that this is the easy part
There are no textbooks anymore :/
Ikr, bro ong I'm traumatised
I'm legit fucking traumatised
ur only getting started
No, I can't take this anymore
My uni assignments are like "do this it's worth 50 marks and you have 2 weeks good luck"
And you just have to work it out yourself
go to cl juwi
focus mode but oke
You rewatch the lecture recording and the dudes just yapping so you have to research yourself
oh
guys this channel is lying
uni is such a waste of time ngl
specially in like tech fields
You still need the piece of paper for a lot of jobs bro
Is this CS degree
not necessary
Yes
and companies are dropping their requirements
Thank God
most pentesters i know dont even have degrees
neither do i
if you have the time and money for it
its a viable option
otherwise its not necessary
im talking from a purely career based standpoint
Wdym?
That I agree my job never asked me for my degree lol
I did a live coding test and they're just like "you've got the job your getting paid this much show up in 2 weeks"
i mean, it does give you an edge over other applicants
my interview was a bit more complicated sadly
Tbf I'm just doing webdev
I can imagine security stuff is more rigorous
its nothing complicated
most of the time i just follow a fixed methodology
and built my own tools
so i can do it my way
there are definitely complications and its a tedious process
2-3 weeks for one full test
So wait was it some CTF style challenge?
and then writing reports and giving briefings
pretty similar to that
still nothing rocket science tho
In uni, do you have time to balance out your studying+gym+work?
Or will it be more conplex
You'll lose some sleep but yes
Damn
basically they give you a few simulated environments and assess your methodology
Biggest thing in uni is make friends and connections
theory questions from networking and assesments are there
I can't function without it
Older you get more who you know matters
they check your reporting skills and synthesizing register of communications to make it more simple
because thats something you will be doing a lot on the job
Ahh fairs
We did sth similar
familiarity with tools and maybe even asked to build one
Had to make a small webapp live in front of them and walk thru my methodology
they give you a 'test' pentest usually
theres a lot of difference between
that methodology
and this
Yes ofc mate
and very rarely they ask about compliance standards
Was just saying the idea of giving someone something they'd be working on if they joined
And seeing how they do it is good
yep
Khalid do you want to get into CS?
ok then i will just grind past papers on 2x speed now
?? cs is such a broad t erm
ty all for the advice
What
Cut her some slack lol she's an IG kid not in the field
Security stuff
Information tech?
π€¦ββοΈ have you heard of cybersecurity
Yeah
i know
I thought you didn't see the first one since you did nws
Yep, time to study
That's the beauty of tech people are less weird about age
i love this job because you can do whatver you want whenever you want smh
unless urgent call
Frfr I'm just chilling at home rn with my work laptop opeb
beauty of remote work
I do have shit to do but I'll deal with it later
WHY TF
WHY TF DO I HAVE SO MUCH PENDING WORK
AND SO MUCH HOLIDAY HW
LIKE
WHY DID WE EVEN GET HOLIDAYS
WE HAVE TO READ THREE BOOKS
AND SUMMARISE THEM
IN A VIDEO
AND WE HAVE TO WRITE 6 PUNCHUATIONS
AND THEIR USES?
TF
TFFFFFFF
THEN IDK WHAT COMPUTER SCINCE IS LIKE
I CANT EVEN SPELL THAT DANM SUBJECT
TEACH WROTE SO MUCH
BUT I CANT DECIPHER A SINGLE WORD
HELP
HELPPP
OMFG
HELPPPPPP
ABOVE THAT
HINDI
I CANT EVEN READ IT
LIKE
LEAVE UNDERSATING THE HW
I CANT EVEN READ IT (im lazy af)
LIKE
AND OUR MATHS TEACH TOLD US TO DO ATLEAST 90% OF THE SYLLABUS
CUZ
WE HAVE CHECKPINTS
IN OCT
BRUUU
TEACH US
YOU HAVE AN HOUR
6 HOURS EVERY WEEK
DANMIT
BISH I WAS ABSENT FOR 1 DAY
All i can say is delete discord
thats not a prob
i only use it after 8pm
im not free before that
Then what
THEN DO IT
IUFVGYNGUGIN
DON'T STRESS URSELF
AAAAAAAAAAAA
HOW TF DO I DO THAT
Have self confidence 
OMG
MEIN NAMAZ PADHKE AAYI
thats gon help
Only Allah can help now 
a wha-
frfrfrfrfr
uh dont worry about it im geeking on about nerdy references again
,av
who
what not mine
movie?
i meant not my av
Oh no its a character from a game series
NO THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE
Metal Gear
kk
its either venom or solid i mix them up everytime it cant be anyone else surely
Hell yeah
Yup but yeah got the char name wrong-
kk
OH LOL
THAT ONE
TIMING WAS SO MESSED UP I THOUGHT YOU WERE COMPLAINING IT ISNT-
Should I change my pfp to reiden then?
sure
anything spiderverse or black or cooler than some celebrities face would be amazing
Misspelled mb
He valid?
he good
Saucy jack
What
Ik
Have u played it?
Its a short game
Nop after igs I will
Ah okay cool cool cool
people at school are saying its too late to lock in for oct nov 2024 , im pretty bright and i think i can do it but i dont know how
i feel a bit helpless
is it better to try and revise full papers or to do topic by topic
what do i do?
im clueless to be be very frank
i know stuff
but i dont know know it
but i can revise a whole subejct in one day , so why is it everyon is saying its too late
its never too late
they haters
what subjects
im in A2
42 52 ?
yes
what should i do
just practice
I was almost failing in my classes (60%)
not knowing how difficult the situation
yeah its alr dw
!!!!
imp for me, its hard to balance sports uk
hmm
hmm
hmm
hmm
hmm
damn we only live once
the seconds spent typing this message wont be returned
damn
ok
yeah
The aftermath of studying in cambridge curriculum
jao kam par lag ig kid
omg oct nov is alot of time. start keeping the effort in right now
i hate my physics teacher so so so so so much
me too
it's already exam season and bro keeps giving vocab tests
and the tests are really poorly made
fill in the gap definitions without words to fill in and you have to remember a stiff definition
no wonder 100% of the class hates him
and bro can't even speak english
4.5 IELTS
teaching IGCSE physics
forcing students to remember stupidly written definitions
that don't even follow the conventions of english
and he doesn't even explain any concept
just read slides aloud and give work sheets
how is bro being paid π
y dont u complain?
can't complain, i need that letter of recommendation for college π
- you always want to be on the good side of teachers
they may even be biased when marking
happend to me once or twice
oh
creatures who
creatures
what creatures
ohh
interesting
deleting everything
very interesting
khair go to a library vel like me
all good now i was being dramatic ;3
ive been here since ages
bhai i live in a remote area
literally a desert surrounding
waise hv u tried white noise
and i donβt have my driving license
bhai where u at
no i like straight up silence
idk atp
qatar
itβs just where my house is located at
thar**
normally thereβs always buildings surrounding
ah mansion hoga na

saath wale plots bhi khreeden honge mashAllah se
poora shehr hi khreed lia
thore dirham idhr bhi yes krwao behna
my brain is too tired to translate this english speak karo
give me dirham sister
iβm miskeen
sell a plot
dude
kya plot
π€¨
i thought u knew urdu
some people dont have to put any effort
their presence at its least makes ur day
amkes u smile
thanks momma
its her bday and im frickin sad shes getting oldeR
im not sure if this is even a vent but i want her to live long inshallah
lmao
i was like, ima halalify things
so i shot the idea of marriage
dont have my hopes up because it 100% makes sense if she said no to my crazy plan and thats okay w me
just laughing like a manic cuz i actually said it
not entirely fluent 
waiting for her reply
ooof that type of burger ?
can u read urdu ?
may your friendship be everlasting InShaAllah
transliteration? yes
....
otherwise no
fym burger
do yk not know what burger is ?
no
i need some pakistani to read the last 9 msgs bec im in shock
??
a burger is a pakistani who cant speak urdu properly
and speaks it w an english accent
uh
iβm not even pakistani
theres alot of memes about it on insta
you can be from india and im sure smt like burger exists
we do have a saying
ah makes sense
hi
I was sexually assaulted when I was 7/8, and now the trauma is kicking in 
Go talk to a professional, they can help you more then anyone here could
No way I'm spending 1000s to just talk with another person
I'm sorry that happened to you dude
If you have someone you trust, please talk to them
Talking to someone will help, even if it's not a therapist
And now youβre a complete legend helping out tons of people who you donβt even know, with different subjects
Fuck the trauma man youβve grown so much as a person and Iβm proud of you
My homie knows about it...but he also got a same story like this
Soo...idk what to say π
Trust me it's real and it's fucking disturbing
Nuh uh
Nah
.
Oh
I don't know what to say man
If you ever really feel like shit, please call a helpline or something
Hi
Hi
Hello
SAMEE
TRUMA BINDINGG
Hiiii
I think mine happened at 6 though
Hii
Omgg I hope you are alright noww
Heyyo
I am
If you've moved on then best not to think abt it
Yeah
Ur school should have guidance counsellors, talk to em
I am soo sorry that happend to u omg idk much but I hope u realize that you are a perfectly fine person and deserve so much better try talking to people and if you don't wanna talk bout it write it somewhere
π¨
Yo epic dude, whats ur thoughts on people saying sorry to you for what happened.
They dont or u dont wanna talk to em abt it ?
Like u guys or that mf
That mf
Lits it's sooo gross
I don't think I will ever be able to say this to my mum π
Not your mum bro, arent there school therapists?
Considered kicking that mf down some steep ass stairs
You guys should have them, and they arent allowed to share client details
||He|| never said sorry
Guys if ur school has guidance counsellors or therapists, please go to them
School is cheap af
Its stuff like this why i support the death penalty
I don't feel comfortable bro π
Dms
grind some WHAT
Past papers π

Brother π i didnt sent a text wall just to be left on seen
I don't want to think about it sooππ
Whatever happens....just happens
No worries
Ty for trying to help tho 
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Nah dw, go grind some papers
...?
Not that I don't understand where you're coming from
Everyone who sexually assaults kids deserves to die
And leave vents for people to discuss their issues
Instead of
Oh lmao
I thought u were gonna say the death penalty should be destroyed
But the reason people don't support death penalty is not that they dont believe that terrible criminals shouldn't die
It's because they don't trust the government to kill the right people
I don't trust any government with the legal right to kill any of its citizens
Large majority of the people who are against it are pacifists, the same ones who are against war. If people didnt trust their governments then they wouldn't stay in that government or pay taxes
Most people don't have a choice
Okay?
Revolution
Is not that easy
How else should Governments deal with criminals then?
Who should deal w child molestors?
Exactly.
Your silence speaks volumes
Because even you know, its something that only the government should have the power to do
Its an entirely different convo if we talk about corruption
Because i believe thats what your against
My point is, do you trust your government to kill the right person every time
No
My point is, if not them, then who?
You put them in prison for life like you usually do
And if evidence turns up to the contrary
You release them
Because if you kill the wrong guy
They will never get their life back
Again what your talking about is the issue of corruption
I was talking to someone else
Its highly likely it wontc
Take america for example
Not just that, the judicial system is never 100% right my guy
Its system for retrail is extremely difficult and long
I have actually been part of a jury, so I know how this shit works
And its also a strain on the governments money
Exactly, the judical system can be easily corrupted.
And the issue with prisons is how they work
It's not just about corrupt, it's that a lot of these cases are extremely difficult to prove, and always comes down to "he said, she said", which also goes down to, who has the better lawyer
I wanna reiterate, I don't think child molesters should live
Some prisons are given a set amount of money per number of inmates, that sounds all well and good until you realize if you have more inmates u get more money, thus if you can influence the laws enough, you can arrest people for things they didnt do in the first place. Because the laws become more strict
So why put them in prison?
Because we don't have the system or the technology yet to prove if a person is actually guilty or not
And if we can't prove it
Then prison is the next best option
Im trying to understand your point
Because your against the goverment having the right to kill, i get that.
Why ? Because 1. System is corrupt, 2. They suck at catching the right guy?
Basically
Okay, firstly do you agree that the death penalty is nesscary?
By that, if you mean murderers and rapists should die, then yes
Yes. Those whose crimes are heinous enough
If you can 100% prove a person is a murderer or a rapist, then yes, I'm ok with them dying
But if there's a single shred of doubt
Then there's the possibility of ruining a person's life
Theres awhole other issue of what laws do you even follow in the first place but lets leave that out
And their entire family's life
And that stays on everyone's conscience
Okay so, you think killing him would ruin his life but not putting him in jail?
No, id say after a year or so, people would move on
It would be more difficult if he was in prision
Thats one thing
Another thing is,how do you make sure someone is 100% guilty?
Very few people will ever admit it
Killing is very final, if you kill a person, it's done, and then if you find out they were innocent later, or if you find out you got the wrong guy, you can't bring the person back
And if people think there is no death penalty, why shouldnt they just do it again
Whereas if it was prison
The chances of it are very small
Your talking about a very rare exceptional case