chat-lounge

[odd talon]

Seems dooe

Lemme try

[bleak vine]

Thoughts?

[odd talon]

Yooo this is busting

Ima try it with math later

[rancid leaf]

I have it on rn while doing CS

[rancid leaf]

Hiii

[odd talon]

Heyyyyy

I missed uuu

Hruuu

[bleak vine]

Told u!! It’s crazy

[odd talon]

Ikrr

[rancid leaf]

Well well and you?

[odd talon]

I just woke up and my hair’s kinda messy and n

[rancid leaf]

😅

[fiery junco]

TONIGHT

SHUBH

DROPS

[odd talon]

Ima take a shower and fix my hair a bit 💔

[fiery junco]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[rancid leaf]

Yeah sure

[rancid leaf]

😅

[odd talon]

Hbu

[rancid leaf]

Studying cs

[fiery junco]

sdlff

esd

sf

[near smelt]

hm

[rancid leaf]

Hiii

[frank wyvern]

haii bam how was ur birthday

[fiery junco]

did cmod color get richer

[night pumice]

Oh no way

[night pumice]

Happy belated birthdayy

https://tenor.com/view/im-free-gif-21880769

[near smelt]

tyyy

[near smelt]

hiii hydd
it was good
gonna see hail mary this weekend

[frank wyvern]

im ok!! tyfa wbu

love to hear it fr hope you have fun !! lmk how it is

[near smelt]

lovely
yaaaa okii!

[fiery junco]

WAIT IM NOT TWEAKING RIGHT?!

[trim narwhal]

so like

[night pumice]

I meant to reply to the bday thing

[trim narwhal]

i wanna talk about partnerships and contracts

who should i talk to

[azure summit]

yourself

[night pumice]

I think the colors the same

[trim narwhal]

do you know kind sir?

[night pumice]

Yea wait

[night pumice]

Message the znotes bot and open modmail

[fiery junco]

oh 💔

i swear im not a tweaker like that

[fiery junco]

8 HOURS

[sonic dome]

hello there

[fallow zenith]

great

[sonic dome]

dm me IF your concerned Partnership is related to a school

[frank wyvern]

theyve already contacted us

[sonic dome]

oh alr then

was it related to a school

idts tho

[frank wyvern]

nope

[sonic dome]

[sour pivot]

YESS

[vague thorn]

hi

does anyone have feb march 2026 paper

[fiery junco]

bro im actly excited

shubh has like

never missed icl

[proper sorrel]

I saw a video of some dude solving paper 4 of feb march 2026 maths but ABSOLUTELY nothing else i can find

[fiery junco]

yo guys do yk that feeling when ur js goated

[vague thorn]

oh yea some grandpa

bro hes gatekeeping

🥀

[proper sorrel]

Yeah him lol

[vague thorn]

graps not tuff

[proper sorrel]

Dunno how he got it..

Only p4 too

[vague thorn]

same

[proper sorrel]

And i dont wanna watch it

Cause i need to solve it first

Meh maths is easy and since i only want a B i can completely ignore it

[vague thorn]

check dms @proper sorrel

[vague thorn]

same

[proper sorrel]

Ok

[willow arrow]

Why aim for B when you can get A

[fallow zenith]

only you can relate

[opaque lance]

People want to enjoy their lives

Life is short

Enjoy it fulfill your dopamine lines

[willow arrow]

Plus the graves of a distinction student and a c grade student will also be the same
Sooo yeah it's pointless

[proper sorrel]

sciences (bio chem physics) would be at big risk

[willow arrow]

Why

[proper sorrel]

Although i get As in those including mocks i don’t wanna risk losing A on 2 subjects instead of 1

[vocal sundial]

igcses is 2 months long

[proper sorrel]

Like

[willow arrow]

You can get into any university in Pakistan

[proper sorrel]

like i mean in sciences i get A in p4 and borderline on p6 but i struggle with p2

[opaque lance]

🤣🤣 you know that meme?

[willow arrow]

They all want entrance tests

[opaque lance]

I sent it to my mom and she got mad

[proper sorrel]

Im going to uae

[willow arrow]

Oh no

Oh nononono

[proper sorrel]

it’s not that deep

that’s why i studied so now im getting As

[opaque lance]

It's all fake anyway AI generated

[proper sorrel]

i studied the whole year so i will study the least this month

[willow arrow]

Shit country ngl

[proper sorrel]

Whats fake?

[proper sorrel]

Doesn’t remove the requirement of needing As and i was born there

I only live in pak because it is cheap

[opaque lance]

Like people who say don't go uae because of missiles it's fake

[proper sorrel]

Once my brother finishes medical uni i will return

[proper sorrel]

Yes

[cinder acorn]

dopamine

[proper sorrel]

Missiles do happen and i was above one that exploded above us, but it’s not that deep

[cinder acorn]

wanting to be better than other people

wanting to be better than yourself

prove a point to the world

[willow arrow]

It's interceptor

[proper sorrel]

3 actually got intercepted above us because it was like 9pm

[cinder acorn]

get into a better university that you think is a better fit for you intellectually

[proper sorrel]

but im back to pak for CIEs

[vocal sundial]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mashable-l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS

[cinder acorn]

my point is

[proper sorrel]

self-satisfaction u mean

[cinder acorn]

it GREATLY varies from individual to individual

[willow arrow]

Yet you'll be forgotten the moment we are buried

[cinder acorn]

i will ALWAYS respect anyone that goes the extra mile

to get something that they really want

[opaque lance]

What point though? If everyone is rich no one is rich

Same for studying why get A star to please others? It's not even an achievement and never will be

A lot of people get a stars so what's the point? You must please yourself not others

[cinder acorn]

my point is - don't question why people work to get As

[proper sorrel]

I want As ofc but A in math, uhhh it would put my sciences at risk so yeah

[cinder acorn]

if you don't want As, that's perfectly fine! I respect that take!

but if someone's working for it? good for them yo

i respect them for it

[willow arrow]

Why ?
They are increasing the threshold

[vocal sundial]

Are u talking abt 0580 math?

[cinder acorn]

it undermines the work people are putting in if you dismiss their wins with "yea ur gonna die anyways fuck off"

i think that's incredibly disrespectful and demeaning and lowkey kinda a cope take

[proper sorrel]

Btw i always get A in one math paper and get B in the other so i could get A if i focus on p4 by predicting the topics that didn’t come for p2

[proper sorrel]

Yes

[cinder acorn]

it also comes off as just downright jealous

[opaque lance]

Good for them, but tell them to not talk about me not studying even though I want to become a scientist. Everyone has different ways everyone has different positions

[cinder acorn]

oh yeah fs

everyone has their own path

just because someone studies more than someone else doesn't give them the right to criticize them

[proper sorrel]

nah but if you think about it education isn’t hard

if u just focus and invest ur time it’s piece of cake

[cinder acorn]

just like how if someone's able to get by by studying less, it doesn't give them the right to hate on someone that has to study more to do well

[opaque lance]

Everyone has his own mind bro we are all different genes

You think education isn't hard, I think it's useless

[proper sorrel]

Define the term Gene

[2]

[vocal sundial]

another fact is everyone deals with struggles they dont talk about, studying is just a part of life, it's not life.

[proper sorrel]

5 seconds i give you

[cinder acorn]

do you think that conventional education is useless, or just the process of learning?

[opaque lance]

Bases of DNA that codes for protein

[vocal sundial]

Length of DNA that codes for a protein

[proper sorrel]

oh nice

yez

[cinder acorn]

because I'd agree with you that school education can often have absolutely no bearing or impact on what you want to do in your life

[vocal sundial]

hes in A2 biology good sir

[proper sorrel]

I hate how high bio thresholds are though

how are alevel bio thresholds

[cinder acorn]

and you can pursue a field independently without putting the time in to study for an arbitrary examination

[proper sorrel]

yeah but ppl fail to say it codes for a specific protein

[cinder acorn]

i do however think that the process of LEARNING is an invaluable part of the human experience, and that intentional ignorance is genuinely just cope

[proper sorrel]

I asked my a level cousin who doesn’t study to define acceleration A LEVELS btw he didn’t know

He got straight Bs

[vocal sundial]

Question for you, what is the terminal electron acceptor in aerobic respiration

[proper sorrel]

the what

[cinder acorn]

yea because grades on A Levels don't test how good you are at something

[proper sorrel]

Is that ig

[opaque lance]

Wake up > school > sleep is useless
Same as syllabus for sample in chemistry 80% of the things we take we will not use them in 30% or more of fields for example transition metals etc

But I also disagree with
Wake up > always game > sleep

So I believe there should be something like school but not taking 8 hours

[cinder acorn]

it tests how good you are at taking tests

[cinder acorn]

so you disagree with how modern education systems are structured

that's valid

[opaque lance]

Yes

And they need to change syllabuses

Teach more useless stuff

For example moree genetic engineering

[cinder acorn]

that's incredibly valid stay on that path and you'll realize just how flawed some of the stuff that we engage in every day is

[opaque lance]

Topic 19 should be extended

[proper sorrel]

i guess because my brother is in medical which is almost finished i have deluded myself to think that everything and every little atom is about academics in life but the fault is mine not my family or my brother

[opaque lance]

Even though it's very hard it's extremely useful since it's basically modern technology

[cinder acorn]

but there's undoubtledly individuals who find genetic engineering absolutely useless in their chosen path

the fact of the matter is - you need to teach people a little of everything because studying the specifics is exactly what university is for

[proper sorrel]

can i get into good Uni without extracurriculars?

i want honest answer

Good not top1 or top3

[cinder acorn]

i don't like the way IGCSEs/A Levels are fundamentally structured because they de-incentivise learning and prioritize memorization

to an absolutely generational extent

[cinder acorn]

depends on what country you want to study in

[proper sorrel]

Doesn’t this only apply to some subjects?

[proper sorrel]

uhhhuhhhhh UAE

i have no other option basically

[vocal sundial]

IGCSE math and add math i find so fun because of 0 memorization, i struggle with sciences because they force you to memorize sooo much

[cinder acorn]

well, it's most of them because of the inherent problem with standardized test-based systems

[proper sorrel]

opposite for me mann

[cinder acorn]

you cannot have a SINGULAR test at the end of two years

with no other tests of any weightage throughout the two years

[opaque lance]

I don't talk about their paths i look at what's useful in today's world

For example genetic engineering is literally a modern technology so ofcourse it's useful

But in math for example why do I need to learn most topics when we have advanced so much AI could do things for us?

[cinder acorn]

determine a student's entire fate

[proper sorrel]

what could be the other method though

how else can they determine a students idk thinking or something

[cinder acorn]

the US's education system is a shitshow

but one thing they do well

[opaque lance]

Bro who is going to do plants 🙏😭🙏

[proper sorrel]

They can’t do standard form

60% to pass or sum

[cinder acorn]

btw that's

not

how it works

the US's education system is do-as-much-as-you-want

[proper sorrel]

I hate plants

Worst topic in bio

[cinder acorn]

if you don't wanna learn more, you js don't

[proper sorrel]

Then wat do u do

[cinder acorn]

if you wanna learn more, you have kids in high school studying college-level courses

[vocal sundial]

I disagree with the last point, someone had to learn those maths from the ground up to make the AI to begin with

[cinder acorn]

we need people doing everything lowkey

[opaque lance]

Valid

[cinder acorn]

is continuous testing and priortizing incremental learning

[opaque lance]

I also don't like the fact I need 10+ years just to become neurosurgeon

And 4 of these years will be me studying stuff which isn't about neurosurgeon in itself

[proper sorrel]

Bro

[cinder acorn]

i will forever recommend that anyone interested in understanding education and the problems behind it and some of the potential solutions

[proper sorrel]

You are opening up a brain

[cinder acorn]

look into the concept of mastery learning

[proper sorrel]

Shouldn’t it be more then 10

[cinder acorn]

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3491140.3528289

[opaque lance]

It's 12 actually in my country

[vocal sundial]

I used to get 100/100 when there was 5-7 chapters, but as they stack up more and more and more chapters, it get soo difficult to retain all that infromation.

[proper sorrel]

i seen 15+

not seen but i mean

[opaque lance]

It depends on a lot of factors

[cinder acorn]

yeah the system's honestly cooked

like believe me

i was VERY good at the system

i was probably one of the best in the world at this IGCSE/A level shit back in my years

but like

that also meant i inherently saw how flawed the system it was and how easy it was to win at it

[cinder acorn]

(and this is statistically true i'm not pulling ts out of my ass)

[proper sorrel]

my brother told me their SATs is the same difficulty as igcse/alevel in between

[cinder acorn]

no

[vocal sundial]

I studied for the SATs a while back

Its soo easy omg

[cinder acorn]

the SAT is a basic english and math comprehension test

it's a benchmark

[opaque lance]

But honestly speaking

If you are someone who is studying just to get the degree for income and not because you want that degree just drop out of college what's the point of living your whole life miserably waking up doing same stuff

[cinder acorn]

it's not an education system

take AP Physics C (either of em) though and you'll realize how hard the american education system can get

[opaque lance]

My cousin told me SAT is same level as IGSCE

even though he didn't take IGSCES

[cinder acorn]

when you see a high school freshman taking discrete math at community college you realize how hard the american education system can get

the US lowk lets each person pick their own path

which also doesnt work cuz

given no guidance

most people pick the path of least resistance

[vocal sundial]

forcing them to pick more rigorous things wont help though

if they dont wnat

[cinder acorn]

i agree

[opaque lance]

"dropshipping" "escaping matrix" "stocks"

[vocal sundial]

there are very few who want rigor in their coursework

[opaque lance]

They pick trends

[cinder acorn]

the thing is

you don't need to want rigor

you need to be curious

we live in systems that actively discourage curiosity

[vocal sundial]

i love learning, i dont love studying

[cinder acorn]

by teaching you to think in terms of

years and systems

and exams and syllabi

[vocal sundial]

i loved finishing the entire A level biology syllabus just to learn, but im prolly gonna hate when im studying it and have a test to worry about

[cinder acorn]

i was REALLY good at A Level further math cuz i lowkey js got REALLY good at just that amount of math and nothing more and nothing less

[opaque lance]

Did you get A in it?

[cinder acorn]

A*

easy

LMAO

[cinder acorn]

but when i actually had a teacher for once for add maths instead of self-studying and she actually taught us math that went beyond the syllabus of that course

and who actually incentivized us doing our own research and learning new things about the stuff we were studying in school

i enjoyed that class more than any other class i took throughout my 4 years of high school

it made me want to be a math major

changed my life icl

[uneven comet]

interesting

[cinder acorn]

ofc i didnt

end up a math major

cuz i lowk started looking into pure math and realized i hated it

but it changed my life nonetheless

it's what made me passionate about education! which influenced me into joining the znotes team back in 2023!

and joining the znotes team directly contributed to the entire direction that my high school journey took

good teachers change lives chat

[vocal sundial]

yet to find one 😔

[cinder acorn]

yeah i know it lowkey sucks

[vocal sundial]

everything i know is self studied, yet to find a single teacher who taught me smth new

[cinder acorn]

^

i had one singular good teacher throughout my 4 years of high school

that add maths class is the only class where my teacher taught me anything

i self-studied my way through my other 9 IGCSEs and my 6 A Levels

and yeah i did good at em but like

i also didn't rly enjoy it

[fiery junco]

youtube teachers r goated af icl, at least some of em r rly good like org chem tutor

[cinder acorn]

!!

real

[vocal sundial]

YES

professor dave

org chem tutor

shaun hew

ginger math

[fiery junco]

orc chem tutor, eddie woo all goated

[vocal sundial]

absolute GOATa

[cinder acorn]

thing about teachers on YT is that they make videos out of passion

because on average that stuff does NOT pay

[fiery junco]

real

[cinder acorn]

so if you got into that field and started doing it

[fiery junco]

or some record their lessons

[cinder acorn]

you probably did it because you enjoyed it

[fiery junco]

like eddie woo records him teaching to his class

[cinder acorn]

real

[fiery junco]

wootube

[vocal sundial]

For 3 YEARS i didnt understand permutation combinations

how to acctually do it

[fiery junco]

i hate probabiliy

[vocal sundial]

shaun hew 2 videos

and ik how to do em perfectly now

he showed some methods ive never seen anywhere

not in books or anywhere

boooks are so fkn ass

[cinder acorn]

wait books lowk taught me

[vocal sundial]

huge info dump

[cinder acorn]

everything i learnt in high school

💀

i didnt watch YT videos cuz they took up too much time

i js read textbooks and figure it out from there

[vocal sundial]

books are good when u want to learn but lowk for tests books are ass

[cinder acorn]

for tests i js

did past papers

got em wrong

[vocal sundial]

cuz they have so much useless info

[cinder acorn]

read mark schemes

did more past papers

rinse and repeat

[vocal sundial]

in my school there are some "mark scheme warriors"

they memorize mark schemes

[cinder acorn]

it works

¯_(ツ)_/¯

that's what im saying dawg i did all of it

for classes where i was bad at them

[vocal sundial]

veteran walks into a beginner lobby

[cinder acorn]

(like A Level chem)

i grinded out

8 years of past papers

the weekend before the test

in 3 days

took the theory test

got a 95 on the subject

that's what sucks about A Levels cuz like

lowk you can just cheese them

ofc i also learnt a LOT in those 3 days

but the fact that i was able to go from a 30% to a 95% within 3 days

with no teachers and no external help

should tell you something about that class

[cinder acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[vocal sundial]

igcse in 15 days

any tips?

[cinder acorn]

how's it looking rn

[vocal sundial]

cuz like ik the syllabus, finished more times i can count

but

i sturggle with certain topics

like in physics its waves and electromagnetism part

chemistry its rememebring the 500 reactions and the effects colors and whatnot its rlly tiring

[cinder acorn]

chemistry pmo

bane of my existence

[vocal sundial]

biology its mainly remembering human reproduction

[cinder acorn]

im so glad i got credit from AP and A Level chem

and so i dont have to take it at college

[cinder acorn]

genuinely if it's

individual topics

js grind out the savemyexams notes for those topics and then do topicals

[vocal sundial]

i need at least 95%

[cinder acorn]

valid

[vocal sundial]

for add math and maths im rlly hoping top in world

i dont struggle

[cinder acorn]

im the

[vocal sundial]

its just silly mistakes

[cinder acorn]

right person

to

talk to

[vocal sundial]

plz help

what to do

its all silly mistakes

[cinder acorn]

^ for context

100 100

:P

[vocal sundial]

ENGLISH HOW

HELP

at english

[cinder acorn]

oop sorry

deleted ur message instead of mine

[vocal sundial]

nw

[cinder acorn]

ive genuinely js been

[vocal sundial]

im soooo bad

at english

[cinder acorn]

good at english lowkey

FLE i kinda fucked up

i got an 88

hella unexpected

FLE internal school topper didn't even get an A*

[vocal sundial]

did u write

narrative

[cinder acorn]

my friends memed on me for that shit

[vocal sundial]

or descriptive

[cinder acorn]

descriptive

always descriptive

i love descriptive

[vocal sundial]

bro how did u do it

i try but i never can

its just

[cinder acorn]

wait dude sometimes it's like

[vocal sundial]

spamming 20 adjectives

per word

[cinder acorn]

im honestly

not happy w my

FLE score

which is why i never like

give people advice

for FLE

cuz i could have done better but i didnt which means there was sumn wrong w how i did things

[cinder acorn]

well

to me

descriptive is like

poetry

make people feel what you're saying instead of reading what you're saying

and as someone that writes poetry it like

works out

it fit my MO

[vocal sundial]

yooo same

[autumn garden]

opp

[cinder acorn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i js found it easier

to describe scenes

narrative my mind would go OFF

[vocal sundial]

what do you suggest i do in these 15 days

[cinder acorn]

im a fiction author and i write long-form

[vocal sundial]

like the daily routine to maximise the subjects

[cinder acorn]

writing 2-page narrative fucked me over

[cinder acorn]

honestly there's no fixed

"daily routine"

you gotta do whatever YOU think works

[autumn garden]

but see you could traumatise your examimer

[cinder acorn]

my routine would 100% not work for anyone that wasn't me

and my friends' routines wouldn't work for me

[vocal sundial]

one of my seniors got a 98 i think

startign the writing with

"I am a prostitute"

[cinder acorn]

i had a 98 on english literature which like lowkey pmo cuz

i missed world topper by

1 raw mark

🤡

[cinder acorn]

valid asf

[frank wyvern]

😭

[cinder acorn]

edgy writing impresses people

[frank wyvern]

DAMN

[autumn garden]

that guy is going places

[cinder acorn]

i had to do a

descriptive writing about

rain

once

and i wrote it from the perspective of a homeless dude

sleeping on a bench at a bus station

and the sewers in the city had overflowed cuz of the rain and

[vocal sundial]

The rain looked like the water I couldn't drink for days

[cinder acorn]

he could lowk js smell shit and piss

[autumn garden]

apparently drawing allama iqbal on your paper does the same job

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

real shit

[vocal sundial]

day before yesterday

english mock

my friend wrote shi like

[cinder acorn]

before i moved to the US i took some pictures of

my old stuff i think

[vocal sundial]

looked like the silky smooth of a horse's tail

[cinder acorn]

some of my edgy-ahh writings are in there

i was genuinely marks-farming

[vocal sundial]

and like glow of a pearl

and whatnot

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

valid

asf

do what you gotta do bro i respect the hustle

[vocal sundial]

yk some guy wrote in the english channel

the other day

abt having one 40/40 narrative story

and changing the dialogue

to fit the requirement

u think thatd work?

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

[cinder acorn]

one of my friends

he memorized

word-for-word

6 descriptive pieces

based on analysis of past years prompts

and wrote one of them on the paper

he got an A*

same dude goes to an ivy now btw

[vocal sundial]

YOOOOO

[cinder acorn]

so he was also naturally smart so

it worked out

[vocal sundial]

Bet

Say less

[cinder acorn]

my friends are all bad examples cuz the large majority of us were lowk js like

naturally rly good at this education and learning shit

[vocal sundial]

tips for maths?

seeing the two 100/100

[cinder acorn]

and the fact that we were ALL good at it meant we like came together to lift each other up

uh

genuinely no tips

[vocal sundial]

whatd u do?

[cinder acorn]

i js like

went into flow state

i had an anxiety attack

during add maths p2

[vocal sundial]

Ik i do that too but like u never made silly mistakes?

[cinder acorn]

heart rate spiked to 160

thought id die lowk

[fiery junco]

dang bro what

tc

[cinder acorn]

then i like

[fiery junco]

its never that deep

[cinder acorn]

closed my eyes

and went

[sour pivot]

wow cl locked in

[cinder acorn]

WE are locking in

[cinder acorn]

ofc i did

that same add maths p2

i messed up 40% of the test

[fiery junco]

i once had a panic attack icl

[cinder acorn]

in my first run-through

last 10 minutes i fixed all of it

[fiery junco]

actly just had one today in my mock

[cinder acorn]

i js like

looked at the math

[vocal sundial]

💀

[cinder acorn]

and i knew it was wrong

[sour pivot]

real

[cinder acorn]

idk sumn about the anxiety and the

[fiery junco]

yeah i began realising how goated i am for this world

[sour pivot]

got my ass kicked by org chem today

[fiery junco]

crazy stuff

[cinder acorn]

adrenaline and the panic and the stress

it js

[sour pivot]

pack it up

[cinder acorn]

locked me the FUCK in

[fiery junco]

no test is makking me cry

[vocal sundial]

what abt chem

howd u memorize

allat

[sour pivot]

cannot be me

[cinder acorn]

as i said

8 years of past papers in 3 days

[sour pivot]

chem is litr the WORST

[fiery junco]

lock in

[cinder acorn]

every single paper every single question

[fiery junco]

ur a nerd aadya u can do this

[cinder acorn]

12-14 hour grinds for 3 days in a row

[sour pivot]

crying

[fiery junco]

aadya, apna stress ko aada karlo 🤣 🤣

[cinder acorn]

went from a 30% to a 95%. there was no method. no formula.

js pure fucking grind bro

i hate chem

w a passion

[wind solstice]

stress relief

[vocal sundial]

got it

[sour pivot]

ass joke never again

[sour pivot]

me2

litr so disgusting

[cinder acorn]

yep

thankfully my uni doesnt

make me take any chem

[sour pivot]

my bitchass tchr ne

[vocal sundial]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ball-corn-cornball-dZzgmk58UKdAHnhrNH

[fiery junco]

when ur so cooked the kirtan replaces ur lofi

[sour pivot]

aqa daldiya

[cinder acorn]

i usually would have to take it but AL chem gives me credit

[sour pivot]

whack ass questions

[fiery junco]

bum

[fiery junco]

says the actual ig kid

[cinder acorn]

im not a religious soul

[sour pivot]

ur a bum

[cinder acorn]

but i did ts ONCE

night before stanford REA decisions

i was panicking

genuinely panicking

it was like

BAD

[vocal sundial]

yo what uni u go to btw

[cinder acorn]

rather not say

[fiery junco]

dang

[sour pivot]

me when i hanuman chalisa b4 every exam

[cinder acorn]

i mean id spent like

3 years

[fiery junco]

LMAO

[cinder acorn]

working

[vocal sundial]

every uni is a uni does it batter

[cinder acorn]

for it

[sour pivot]

otherwise my ass not religious for shit it’s over

[cinder acorn]

i go to a t3 engineering school in the US

[fiery junco]

fair fair

[cinder acorn]

that tells you it's one of 3

[vocal sundial]

oooh nice

[cinder acorn]

i wont say which one

[cinder acorn]

yeah lowkey

was an

insane experience

december-march 2024-5

were

generational

[fiery junco]

shit same

[cinder acorn]

life-changing months

[fiery junco]

lock in months

[cinder acorn]

no for me they js

[fiery junco]

even tho i was in yr 9

[cinder acorn]

like

[fiery junco]

🥀

[cinder acorn]

changed me as a person

icl

[fiery junco]

fair

[cinder acorn]

i went in one dude came out another

never had sm character growth in such a little time

[eternal pelican]

man why th do college got entrance exams😭

[fiery junco]

2024 changed me

[vocal sundial]

A levels that tuff damn

[cinder acorn]

no

[fiery junco]

i went from humble to a true egoist

[cinder acorn]

not the A Levels

the A Levels were lowkey fine

except chem i was good at everything else

university decisions changed me lmao

emotional rollercoaster

[eternal pelican]

anyone got tips for me i am going grade 11 soon just finished grade 10

[vocal sundial]

with the sole exception of chemistry of course

[cinder acorn]

yes

[cinder acorn]

where do you wanna go to uni

what country

it rly depends on that

[fiery junco]

dont come to australia

[eternal pelican]

i am in nepal

[cinder acorn]

is ts true chat

[vocal sundial]

my first choice fyi

[fiery junco]

yes keep the competition as low as possible

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

[fiery junco]

shit

[eternal pelican]

i think i am studying here for now after finishing grade 12 i think i would go other countries

[cinder acorn]

my friend at monash says it's tuff

[eternal pelican]

why tho

[fiery junco]

lemme guess its either monash or unimelb

[vocal sundial]

2nd choice is usa

[fiery junco]

for engineering

?

[cinder acorn]

ew

2nd choice usa

[fiery junco]

monash is notorious for a rigorous, hand on engineering course

[cinder acorn]

is it cuz of cost or cuz of what

[vocal sundial]

Not tryna get ICEd

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

that shit is

[fiery junco]

hoke

[cinder acorn]

so blown out of

proportion

oml

[vocal sundial]

is it tht bad?

[cinder acorn]

yea like shit's bad but it's not bad enough to not wanna immigrate

[eternal pelican]

icee

[cinder acorn]

it's bad enough to be an issue that we as americans should be protesting

it's not bad enough to discourage you from going to school here

but then

ur a long way from uni

2 years is a long time for stuff to change

[eternal pelican]

chemistry has to be the worst subjects on my life

[vocal sundial]

another issue is

usa needs ecas

[cinder acorn]

on god i hate chemistry

[vocal sundial]

im low on those

[cinder acorn]

you're

in your igcses

[vocal sundial]

though im targetting ipho next year

[cinder acorn]

you have time

honestly?

[eternal pelican]

yea

[cinder acorn]

extracurriculars are the EASIEST things to get on ur resume

[eternal pelican]

i just finished o lvls

[cinder acorn]

js do things you like LMAO

[vocal sundial]

i only have like one achievement that can count

[cinder acorn]

i liked writing so i lowk founded my schools magazine/newsletter

i liked robotics so i did some robotics stuff

i liked this server so i joined the znotes team and then

eventually stopped working in the discord team and

became one of the people who ran znotes for a while

i honestly js did what i enjoyed

[vocal sundial]

bro is HIM

[cinder acorn]

no like genuinely js

follow ur passions

one of my friends is at my school's like

most competitive program

sub-1% acceptance rate

one of his major extracurriculars was that he used to like

lowkey cut hair

in high school

like he was a barber in his community

[vocal sundial]

yo thats lowk cool

[cinder acorn]

yeah js like

be yourself

[vocal sundial]

everyone at my chool follows like this

[cinder acorn]

he gave me a haircut a couple months ago was fun

[vocal sundial]

ivy league checklist shit

its lowk tiring

and pressurizing

[olive heart]

what

[cinder acorn]

define ivy league checklist

💀

[vocal sundial]

"bro i gotta make a passion project NOWWW"

gotta win 5 olympiad gold medals

[cinder acorn]

yea you do have to do SOME kind of project about ur passion but like

[vocal sundial]

gotta do this that this that

[cinder acorn]

don't force it do sumn fun

and yea put effort into it fs

you cant half-ass ts

but you dont have to do some random bs

[cinder acorn]

i didnt do like

any

olympiads

in high school

[frank wyvern]

crazy

[cinder acorn]

i js did random fuckshit bro

lemme pull out my high school resume

[frank wyvern]

I'm not smart enuf for olympiads

[vocal sundial]

olympiads is abt being good at giving tests ❤️

except IMO

IMO is an exception

[frank wyvern]

yes i was referring to imo

imo is crazy

[cinder acorn]

lowkey

not js imo

but yeah ur right generally speaking

there are olympiads that are genuinely hard it js like

you cant be good at em unless you either like em or like

genuinely work ur ass off which isnt worth it in the first place

[vocal sundial]

i did this earth science olympiad last year for fun

got #6 in my country

im not even targetting that field

[vocal sundial]

i have so much environment related shit i dont even want that field

[cinder acorn]

ts was lowkey my experiences at the end of high school

[ivory hill]

what matters is leadership, committment (meaning long term), and impact. you can do this through anything. your extracurriculars arent to look impressive, theyre for demonstrating positive qualities you have to admissions officers, traits that will make it likely for you to succeed and give positive rep to your school.

however, if youre poor, the game is rigged against you. the only need blind schools are ubercompetitive and crapshoots for everyone. you also cant hire counsellors which the rich kids do. recognise that the game is rigged against you, and work based on effort rather than outcomes. know you'll get far no matter whether youre accepted or not

[ivory hill]

this is not something you should do. you should be authentic to yourself always

[cinder acorn]

i could give you five reasons why i did each of these

five INTRINSIC reasons

[ivory hill]

selling your soul will not get you success

[vocal sundial]

no i meant

i have so many environemtnal ecas for fun

but thats not my target major

[cinder acorn]

then keep doin em

[ivory hill]

one of my ecs is literally just hiking. granted i was rejected everywhere

[cinder acorn]

your activities dont gotta be major-relevant

[cinder acorn]

did you say anything controversial in ur essays or sumn

[ivory hill]

perfect then. your major doesnt matter for us admissions

[ivory hill]

nope

not at all

[cinder acorn]

well tbh i talked about religion

in my essays

and i got rejected from a bunch of private schools

[ivory hill]

so did i but not in a controversial way

[cinder acorn]

have forever wondered if they js didnt like my take on religious syncreticism

[ivory hill]

did we write the same essay?

[cinder acorn]

i grew up w parents that followed two diff religions

i wrote about how that shaped who i grew up to be

[ivory hill]

thats soooo fire

[vocal sundial]

yooo thats so cool

[cinder acorn]

was a dope essay icl

given the two religions are decently similar to external viewers who dont know that theyre completely different ways of life

but to me they were a genuine identity crisis growing up

ever wonder why ive been passionate about inclusivity ever since i got here?

that's why

[vocal sundial]

R u double majoring

[ivory hill]

geagle protecting us on the znotes chat lounge since '23

[vocal sundial]

Comp sci and electircal

[cinder acorn]

dawg i lowkey fought for like

everyone's rights at some point

💀

right to self-expression i mean

as long as you weren't hating or being a bigot i stood for you

[ivory hill]

guys he's 6'7 and reads feminist literature too

saved me from a burning car

[cinder acorn]

i finally got us to stop banning/muting for socialist profile pictures

[vocal sundial]

thats why his role colored like matcha

[ivory hill]

are you actually senior mod rn or just messing around

[cinder acorn]

messing around

im not an intern anymore thank god

i have the role cuz im currently the

[mint hemlock]

??? 1 year contract

[cinder acorn]

de-facto developer for znotes bot

[mint hemlock]

ah

[ivory hill]

we don't talk about the other jit

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

[vocal sundial]

Guys is muns bad for my resume 😭

[cinder acorn]

no

[vocal sundial]

I do a lot of muns and I mean a lot

Last year I did 15

[ivory hill]

next level

[vocal sundial]

I love law, international law, policy, and everything in between

[ivory hill]

its really good especially being deeply involved like you are

[vocal sundial]

Have a shit ton of awards as well

But again 0 alignment with my target major

[cinder acorn]

a former intern here - who i now notice isnt in this server anymore - goes to a REALLY good school asw and she did a lot of MUNs

js do whatever you like yo

have fun w it

[vocal sundial]

And the thing is I do everything I like

[cinder acorn]

one of my friends goes to NUS

[vocal sundial]

Which ones do I count

[cinder acorn]

for CS + business or sumn

and his whole thing was MUN/debate

[cinder acorn]

figure that out when you have to write ur apps

not now

js keep doing ur shit for now

[vocal sundial]

Also for us and Australia

[fiery junco]

contracts 🥀

[vocal sundial]

How much does my igcse

Actually count

And how much will not getting a world highest disadvantage me

[cinder acorn]

have signed tm contracts in the last year

[cinder acorn]

bro

not a lot of people

get world highest

[fiery junco]

contracts for discord modding tho 💀

[ivory hill]

You need 5A*s for NUS, also singapore is israel of asia

[cinder acorn]

i was the only kid from my graduating class that had one of those

[cinder acorn]

he did have 5 A*s

which probably helped

LMAOOOOOOO

[ivory hill]

damn

[cinder acorn]

all of my friends were fucking cracked bro

[vocal sundial]

My parents expect this from me since birth

[cinder acorn]

it was a genuinely amazing environment to be in

[ivory hill]

both ways???

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

i go to a REALLY good school now and like even here i dont get the

kinda environment i had in high school

if you wanted to go to a good school that was probably THE place to be

[vocal sundial]

By whom

[ivory hill]

geagle is berkely worth bajillion crore

[cinder acorn]

that class at a random ahh high school in gujarat

[cinder acorn]

unfortunately we dont have that kinda money

my department lowk losing funding

which is weird cuz we're also THE most desirable major at berkeley rn

[ivory hill]

no like is tuition worth the education

[cinder acorn]

ohh

yes

but no dont come here on a loan pls

go somewhere more economic

[vocal sundial]

Oh and does us give scholarships 😭

[cinder acorn]

if you can afford it without bankrupting yourself it's an invaluable investment

[cinder acorn]

uh

depends on school

if you need aid

[ivory hill]

cause my local uni costs 4 lac per year which is probably like 1.5lac indian rupee

[cinder acorn]

you gotta apply need-blind schools

which is lowk like

hella

HELLA

competitive

cuz it's like

only the

top of the TOP that are need-blind

[ivory hill]

yeah just ask me

[cinder acorn]

or you apply to a random ahh small state school that gives hella scholarship

[vocal sundial]

Lowk do

[fiery junco]

usa uni fees

r so fried

[cinder acorn]

but at that rate

it isnt worth moving to the US

[ivory hill]

if i could get an intrest free loan i would

[fiery junco]

tbf australia is also prty bad icl

[cinder acorn]

yeah then you SHOULD lmao

it would pay off

big-time

but uh

w interest uh

no

dont do it

it's a great school i love it here but it isnt worth bankrupting urself or going into insane debt over

[ivory hill]

lowk why do they cost 3x my dads income like lets be honest here

[cinder acorn]

in-state kids are usually fine

all of my friends here

that cant afford college

are going here for free

they're getting paid to be here

in fact

my roommate pays 0 for college

gets paid every month to be here

[fiery junco]

nah cuz tell me y auistralia tryna copey it now

fym 60k a year

[ivory hill]

oh to be on the winning side of the geographical lottery

[fiery junco]

wtf

wtf

did his great grandparents build the uni or summ

[cinder acorn]

taxpayer money fr

i kinda get it

you live in california

you're gonna contribute to california's economy after you graduate

you're an investment for the state

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal sundial]

Legit geographically disadvantaged by birth 💔

[cinder acorn]

i have

many

[ivory hill]

majority of pakistans taxes go towards interest payments for loans, not even the principal

[cinder acorn]

MANY friends

that are here on

insane, INSANE scholarship/aid

[fiery junco]

mad

[cinder acorn]

im paying full cuz im out-of-state and that's valid fr

(it isnt)

(my family has paid california taxes for 20 years now)

[fiery junco]

saying anything for that green card 💔

[cinder acorn]

(we own a house in california)

(and have owned it since 2011)

[ivory hill]

gujrati aura

[cinder acorn]

(im more in-state than the large majority of in-state kids)

and my dad has lowk lived in cali for the last 20 years

[fiery junco]

its bc ur brown

trust

[cinder acorn]

but i went to high school in india so uh

i dont count

i think next year i will

[fiery junco]

fire

[cinder acorn]

so my costs will drop like

40k or sumn

:D

[vocal sundial]

In 2 years

[cinder acorn]

chat i make enough money this year by working like 2 jobs that i could pay for my own year of tuition next year

[vocal sundial]

When Ww3 starts

[cinder acorn]

isn't that cool

[vocal sundial]

Imma be cooked

[fiery junco]

wait geagle

[vocal sundial]

I want a job 🥺

[fiery junco]

u do a dual degree?

[vocal sundial]

But idk anywhere in my country which hires minors

[cinder acorn]

no it's technically one degree at my school

[fiery junco]

right

ok

[cinder acorn]

im tryna dual-degree in business but you gotta apply for that

[fiery junco]

similar to mechatronics/robotics ig

[cinder acorn]

and they only accept 3 kids from the entire college of engineering

so im tryin fr

[fiery junco]

right i see

[ivory hill]

i make enough money to buy 20 litres of petrol every month

[fiery junco]

gl for that

[cinder acorn]

😭

[fiery junco]

baller

[vocal sundial]

WOAH

[cinder acorn]

im acc rly blessed bro

i have a job that's decently low-effort and makes

sm more than other on-campus jobs

ofc i HAVE this job cuz im like overqualified for it

but it's nice to have a source of income

makes me feel better about the fact that my parents are paying sm for all of ts

even though they would probably go into personal debt before they let me pay my own tuition

[vocal sundial]

Damn

[livid spear]

oh damn, which uni are you at?

[cinder acorn]

well

ig vardag already said it

[cinder acorn]

im at berkeley

[latent sparrow]

hii geags

[livid spear]

awesome

[cinder acorn]

hi pea!

[cinder acorn]

fr

[livid spear]

man, wasn't the uni apps and all very stressful

[cinder acorn]

it was

but i made it :D

sometimes i look back at high school and

i think that i worked sm and it probably wasn't worth it

[livid spear]

i'm giving As in 20 days, not sure how i can deal with the application pressure and requirements when i start off A2

[cinder acorn]

but then sometimes im walking back from classes in the evenings and it's

sunset over the glade

and im like

damn im lowk

living my dreams

from 4 years ago

[livid spear]

holy

[cinder acorn]

LMAO

it's hella melodramatic i know but like

it's acc really rewarding sometimes idk

makes it feel worth it

[cinder acorn]

right uh

[livid spear]

makes sense yeah

[cinder acorn]

i will preface this by saying it WILL be hard

but it's also not as bad

as you think it will be

[latent sparrow]

mm goals

[cinder acorn]

if you start prepping in advance

work. on