Chunks constantly loaded on my server | Dreams' modpacks | Page 1

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Hi!
Does anybody knows what chunk loader is RAD 2 using? we are experiencing huge lags and i am assuming that it's cause because of that.
When i restart the server there is 3-4k chunk already loaded even when there is nobody on the server.
After 3-4 people join game is almost unplayable. We are using Bisect hosting with 12GB RAM Premium so hardware shouldnt be an issue.
My world is pregenrated 5kx5k with world border.
We are using 4 view distance to reduce lag and this helped a lot (before it was 7 and it was unplayable at all)

I am assuming that this is spawn chunk that are loaded but i can be wrong. Can somebody help me ? ❤️

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The red and purple areas on the first screen represents loaded chunks (ftb chunks)

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nobody is playing in this area but the spawn is there so i am assuming this is the spawn force-loaded chunks

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We are playing mostly in the purple area

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Pssst ftb chunks is also a chunk loader

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 10:38 PM

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yeah but before i installed ftb chunk loader the ammount of loaded chunks with 0 players was the same

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:00 PM

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Quick test pull the performance mods. Rubidium, and magnesium addon

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:06 PM

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Sorry, can You explain? I dont understand

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:08 PM

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Remove/disable them from the server

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And your client

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And see if it starts unloading the extra chunks

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Sometimes performance mods have bad interactions and is a good place to look

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:19 PM

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I cannot find Rubidium or magnesium in my mods folder

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Neither on the server nor the client

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:24 PM

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?? this is rad2 right

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they are suppose to be there lol

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:26 PM

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Yes this is rad 2 look 😄

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They are alfabetical. There is nothing called Rubidium here

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:27 PM

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hmm

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:27 PM

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I installed ready mod package from Bisect hosting

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but it was updated to the latest 0.96a version

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lel

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:28 PM

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hmm im gonna check the zip lol

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Thank You for Your help ❤️ it's driving me crazy i try to find it since 11 am 😄

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i found carpet mod for 1.16.5 but it's only for fabric. There is an option to disable spawn chunks being loaded

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Is it possible to run this mod on the forge if it is for fabric?

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I am not a tech guy tbh 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:34 PM

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ok so that is a client side only mod

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i thought it did some server side work too

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so nevermind that

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so wouldnt be those

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:35 PM

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:c

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i am loosing my mind 😄

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guys that are playing on the server when they hear "i need to restart" are crying 😄

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cuz im tweeking everything i can

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:35 PM

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i tottaly understand

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:36 PM

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i am pretty sure its because of this loaded chunks. Maybe not about the chunks but about everything that is inside of them

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:36 PM

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it should be unloading those chunks that are not in range

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:36 PM

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Like mobs

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12GB ram

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lel

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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whats the server cpu and how many vcores do you get or is it dedicated server

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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Its bisect hosting, they say that the CPU power is unlimited 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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lol sure it is

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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Yeah i dont believe in that as well haha

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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but they are pretty good

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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but the cpu looks fine

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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yeah

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:38 PM

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tps not

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😄

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:38 PM

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which makes that cpu graph a lie

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:38 PM

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i am using 4%

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if that's true

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I can make a spark profiler if You want

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If You know how to read that

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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well depends on what its a percentage of

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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Yeah true

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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if its the WHOLE cpu then yeah thats probably very accurate

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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I dont know how much power, cores or threads i have they didnt listed that ont he website

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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if its your share maybe not

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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I could only choose ram ammount

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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crash log shows how many cores......

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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ohh

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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if you force crash it

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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one sec i will look for some

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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wont tell you how fast they are

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should also give you the cpu model

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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📎 message.txt

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there is one crash log fromt he crash log folder

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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CPUs: 32

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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i was installing some mods to disable chunks but it didnt worked

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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unkempt atlas CPUs: 32

is that good?

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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im thinking its reading the whole thing

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that would make it a 16core cpu

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ill keep thinking and lookign

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:43 PM

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Thank You for Your help, i really appreciate that ❤️

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i will run profiler for a bit and upload in 5-10 minutes

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:50 PM

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yeah would be good to see whats causing the tickrate issues if its entities or not

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:51 PM

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I am pretty sure it's entieties moving aroung in the loaded chunks because when i decreased view distance laggs started to be less annoying

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but i can be wrong

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:51 PM

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how many people on the server

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:52 PM

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2 😄

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me and my friend

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https://spark.lucko.me/NDAprELXNO

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:52 PM

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lol yeah thats crazy then

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radenchants is pretty hard on the system

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comparitivly

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:54 PM

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is it radenchants causing the laggs?

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:55 PM

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you GC could use some work

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with some custom jvm arguments

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:56 PM

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Sorry i dont understand 😄

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can i just remove RAD enchants?

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will it brake my game or something? 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:57 PM

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also you said you had a 12gig ram plan?

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:57 PM

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yes

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:58 PM

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dont remove

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:58 PM

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we are so desperate now that we dont care about the mods right now, we just want to play without lggs haha

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btw is there a mod that allows switching off and on mods without restarting the server?

unkempt atlas Jan 28, 2023, 11:59 PM

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yeah im thinking just some jvm arguments here will help

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alot

eager kindle Jan 28, 2023, 11:59 PM

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Then i would stop annoying my friends 😄

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:00 AM

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unkempt atlas yeah im thinking just some jvm arguments here will help

Do You know something about them? I am completelly green. I am a bit technical but i dont know anything about programming 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

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set -Xms to 1024m and add -Xmn128M

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there is more you could do but im not great with it

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and its mostly system specific

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

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umm do i have to edit the file somewhere or ?

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i have only that option

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unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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im not sure where they do it

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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I think i cannot manually modify it :/

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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you should be

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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but i can be wrong

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i can only switch them on and off

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no option to change them manually :/

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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it should have some where to do it manually

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:04 AM

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all right i will look for it

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:04 AM

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but you could turn the xmn one on from there 🙂

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maybe that startup peramiters section

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:05 AM

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that where i am 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:06 AM

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oh lol

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i self host

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its all in the bat file for me lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:07 AM

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eager kindle btw is there a mod that allows switching off and on mods without restarting the ...

Do You know any? 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 AM

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im not sure

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i wouldnt think so though

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not on forge

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 AM

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all right

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 AM

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maybe a pluggin service like bukket or sponge

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 AM

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ok i am staring with new parameters

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 AM

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can

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https://www.bisecthosting.com/clients/knowledgebase/14/How-to-access-your-serverandsharp039s-settings.html

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hmm thats not exactly what we are looking fo

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:10 AM

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ohh but this is just server.properties

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will see when it will start

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maybe this will help

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lol that drop tho

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3 tps xd

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but 2 people are joining 😄

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now the cpu is actually doing something lol

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nah laggs still here

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one more question

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Any way to run fabric mod on the forge server?

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then i can try running this carpet mod

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/carpet

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:26 AM

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eager kindle Any way to run fabric mod on the forge server?

no

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:26 AM

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I am depressed

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@foggy python maybe You have any ideas? I loose my mind

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:27 AM

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i saw someone say before that they were also loading 3k chunks without peeps online

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and then like 4.5k when 1 logged in

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:28 AM

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same here but for me it jumps to 3800 because i decreased view distance to 4

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thats what visect hosting told me to do

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after i send them spark profile

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:29 AM

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eager kindle https://spark.lucko.me/NDAprELXNO

y does this only say 5.5g memory?

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:29 AM

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i dont know i am on 12 gb plan

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:31 AM

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seems a little sus

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:31 AM

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foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:32 AM

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u sure its not meaning 12gb harddrive space?

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:32 AM

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nahh i am pretty sure 😄

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wait one sec

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:32 AM

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aslo y does it say medivel mc?

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:32 AM

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yeah cuz i started with pre-installed mediavial mc

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but then we moved to RAD 2

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but i reinstalled the modpack from their website

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so it erases all the data

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:34 AM

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also not sure how many run on budget plan due to the cpu usage

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:35 AM

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they told me on support that the budget and premium doesnt matter for hardware

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You just get additional options

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and better server location

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mine is in Netherlands and i am in Poland but i think it doesnt matter

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It looks like the server is sluggy not the connection

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:35 AM

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yeah that would only effect ping

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:36 AM

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We have around 50-60 ping so it should be fine

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We just destroy the block and it re-appears and after 2-3 seconds the item pops-up

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:36 AM

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yeah thats rather good

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:36 AM

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and all the mobbs are almost frozen

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:36 AM

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that would be ur tps

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:37 AM

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yah

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Like i said i am pretty sure it's cause because of this laoded chunks

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and the mobs and everything inside theese chunks

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server need to proccess all that crap inside

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Thats what i am assuming

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one sec, pizza delivery guy came 😄

foggy python Jan 29, 2023, 12:37 AM

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did u install the same mod from the other post?

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https://discord.com/channels/512339624627011586/1068540621171740793

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 12:44 AM

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yes i did and it lowered the lagg a bit

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but for like 2 hours

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after that the laggs came back

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i will try to remove radenchants and see what happens

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i think it worked!

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3 people are joinign in the same time

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and tps stays at 20

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i will confirm in 10 minutes

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kill me please

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 1:16 AM

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https://spark.lucko.me/3iEf7TJql6

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

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without rad enchants it looks like that

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:24 AM

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Is it normal that it load so many chunks around the player? I moved far away from spawn. Look at the screen. Red area is loaded chunks

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This is way more than 4 chunks that i set up in view distance 😄

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blood moon rises tps drops 😄 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:35 AM

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so generation can exceed the view range

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if a structure needs to, to complete it

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Ohh all right

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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But yours is looking pretty uniform

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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But damn, that's massive

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its like 30+ chunks around me

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:36 AM

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yeah

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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And the world is pregenrated

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:37 AM

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https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Spawn_chunk

Minecraft Wiki

Spawn chunk

Spawn chunks are chunks found at the world spawn point which are always loaded in memory, unlike normal chunks which unload when no players are nearby.

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so a similar kinda thing is gonna happen around your character as well

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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All right so this is fine?

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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id say normal

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Now i start to think that it's an entity problem

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Look what happended after blood moon started

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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eager kindle

here

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2 guys online, game is unplayable

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:39 AM

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yeah its bit of it all really

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number of chunks and entities

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:39 AM

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I dont really know what do next

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I even deleted RAD enchants

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it helped a bit to be honest

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but just a small tiny bit

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:40 AM

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yeah as they are effecting the entities

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Maybe there is a way to only generate entities close to the player?

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Or something like that?

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So they wont move or even exist in the loaded chunks really far from the player?

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:42 AM

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https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Commands/forceload

Minecraft Wiki

Forceload

Force chunks to load constantly or not, forceload add, forceload query and forceload remove are three separated commands. forceload add [] Forces the chunk at the position (through to if set) in the dimension of the command's execution to be loaded constantly. forceload remove [] Unforces the chunk at the position (through to if set) in th...

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:43 AM

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Hmm

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:43 AM

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this may help, but im not sure if it will wreck anything or not

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:44 AM

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nah still same stuff

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I think it only affects the chunk that i choose before to forceload

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:45 AM

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you used /foreload remove right

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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yes

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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with it spelled right lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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not sure all will work

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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ohh all right

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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oh whait its there as all

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so yeah i guess it should

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:47 AM

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yes

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but i will try with coordinates

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gimmie a sec

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i used the one from spawn

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like i said i need to forceload it first to unload it later i guess

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i think i cannot affect the minecraft ones

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I heard that its codded in the world where the spawn chunks are and in MCedit You can actually remove them

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but i cannot get MCedit to open this world at all haha 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 2:50 AM

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yeah that would be that first thing i linked

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it goes out like 24chunks out from spawn

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that big red square you got

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 2:56 AM

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I just noticed something!

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Shouldn't AI improvements be included in the pack?

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Because i can see that there is a config file for this mod

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But there is no mod in mods folder

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:00 AM

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not all config fills get removed when the mod does

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so there is some trash left

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AI improvements while making them perform better, turned mobs soo dumb that it wasnt worth having

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atleast that what im assuming why it was removed

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its why i removed it from my pack

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lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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I dont mind stupid mobs, i just want to play at least 10 minutes without a lag haha 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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and it may have had issues with other mods

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Ohh allright

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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you can try it though

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the worst it would do is crash

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and you could pull it back out

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Im trying right now, it started already im logging in

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Look kinda promising for now but it's hard to check because it's just me and my friend testing 😄

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I dont know if i will fix it

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Cuz maybe it will not be fixed when the rest of the guys join haha

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for now it looks promising

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:05 AM

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yeah this is part of why we say while we dont actual support the server pack we do to try and fix bugs

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or something along those lines lol

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that entities number is down 🙂

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:06 AM

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i just restarted so

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:06 AM

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loaded chunks not so much but wouldnt have expected that to lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:06 AM

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yeah

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i will try to go to the dungeon or something

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but tps is stable for now

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it never was so stable lol

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nvm lol

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:07 AM

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small dip

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:07 AM

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but still a lot of 20's

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:07 AM

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its gonna happen

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:10 AM

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i mean

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it's not bad to be honest

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best results so far

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but like i said i need to wait for da boyz

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to know the real results

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:13 AM

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start a blood moon lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:13 AM

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is there a command to make a blood moon?

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yeah! 😄

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brilliant brains thinks the same haha

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:13 AM

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lol im not sure

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:15 AM

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cant find it online

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:15 AM

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/enhanced-celestials

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see if it has any commands

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using the tab autocomplete thing

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:16 AM

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i love You man

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You are my hero today

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XD

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LAgs are massive

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:18 AM

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well you did double your entities lol

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all at once

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honestly i dont think it should be in the pack for servers

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single player sure fun mod, if there was say 10 people playing it would have about crashed you

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it does have settings though so id look into that

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:37 AM

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@unkempt atlas You still there?

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Want to hear something funny?

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My friend said he have a different hosting so we can try to upload this modpack and our existing world there to check

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guess what

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https://spark.lucko.me/Ujjr4BRiap

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

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Proccessor shows 100% but it's because he updated from budget to premium package and it still shows the cap of the old one but its running on 150-200% on the graph so the website allows for more

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need to spawn blood moon and check 😄

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10 minutes ont he server flying on gamemode over the map

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all the time constant 20tps

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:42 AM

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Also looks like not enough ram on that system

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That would help it even more

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Whats that host

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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Pebblehost

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It shows 3.5GB of ram

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but actually i have 8 GB

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it shows 3.5GB because the ram is assigned when is needed

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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Yeah I just saw

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:43 AM

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that's what support said

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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Jvm has it at 8000

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So not exactly 8gigs

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But close

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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yeah 😄

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But it's funny tho

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On cheaper server with less ram

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It works liek a charm

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I m just wondering

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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Add in that other jvm argument as well

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:44 AM

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is it because i messed up some configs? or Bisect have something wrong there?

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i mean it was lagging from the beggining

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before i started tweaking

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so i dont know

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:45 AM

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Pebble host probably has a little better cpu

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Yeah could be

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Modpack is the same, map is the same

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Everything is the same 😄

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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I like them as you can pick exactly what you want

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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BTW thank You very much for Your help

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Well on the prem plans anyway

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:46 AM

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You should get a supporter role or something haha

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

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I've been here a long while I don't actually want it

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

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I get it

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But it was pleasure to go for this journey with You haha

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

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If I asked I'd probably get mod

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

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noice

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

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But sometimes people are dumb and I want tell them as much

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And that's not a good look for a mod lol

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:48 AM

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hahah yeah true

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I know something about it. I work in service desk

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Sometimes You just want to smash person who You talking too

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for being so dumb

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lol

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:49 AM

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I'm "valued" that's enough for me

eager kindle Jan 29, 2023, 3:49 AM

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That's nice 😄

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Ok i will go off now

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Im so tired

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Thank again bro ❤️

unkempt atlas Jan 29, 2023, 3:49 AM

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I've been In bed lol watching tv

jolly isle Jan 31, 2023, 2:31 AM

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@eager kindle So the TPS was fixed with a change of hosting? If im reading this thread correctly

unkempt atlas Jan 31, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Yes, sorta doesn't exactly resolve the packs optimization issues though

magic void Feb 1, 2023, 3:07 PM

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hello, i have an issue with your mod. Basically me and my friend are lagging every 5 second, we put all our settings to low but still doesn't work. The server i bought is working really well and we have really good computers. So i would like to know if you can help (sorry for bad english)

#Chunks constantly loaded on my server