MOCR NA S2 07/09/23

[sterile fox]

##MOCR DAWN -07/09/2023##

Time: <t:1688936400>

Situation: Lunar Orbit

See Pinned MSG

Apply for a station

Every person should apply for their favorable station and if it is possible an alternative station. So we can recompose the roles if a more critical station is not manned at the time.

ASTRO(S)

@rotund meadow

#MANAGEMENT#

FD - @sterile fox
AFD - @vernal crag
FOD - N/A
FAO - @sterile fox

#SPACECRAFT_&_PUBLIC_RELATIONS#

PAO - Ask FAO
CAPCOM - @stone nymph
BOOSTER/SUPPORT - @abstract lava
RETRO - @split bane
FDO - @candid gale
GUIDO - @dim widget

#COMMAND_&_SERVICE_MODULE#

EECOM - @rocky forge
GNC - @abstract harness

#LUNAR_MODULE_OPERATIONS#

TELMU (Jr EECOM) - @minor grove
CONTROL (Jr GNC) - @pallid pebble (SME)

#STANDBY_CREW#

@nova shale
@burnt rain

---REMARKS---

#FAILURES#

This season of MOCR will be running with 2% random failures so stay vigilant and keep watching that data

• Lost Battery A
• Battery C should be isolated (till Reentry)

#PARTICIPATION#

In game voice to be used. Please set up your default microphone to the one you will use in Windows. Former MOCR participants will be preferred to attain. You should also consider to switch your stations for every flight to let others to try your old station. Don't be afraid to Buddy up we are able to assign two people to one station. However one person at a time will be relaying comms on the MOCR CONF LOOP

#FEEDBACK#

If you have any feedback at all for the MOCR organization team.
Please take your time to fill out this form: https://forms.gle/1TtpWf3eGbn2TEAW7

#PREPARATION#

We will open a MOCR_PREFLIGHT. There you can check your connection and speak on A/G LOOP to check your microphone. Also be in ⁠MOCR1 Voice if you have questions so we can help you.
Preflight Organizer(s): @sterile fox

#LEAVING_RULES#

Station all Lights Out: When you need to leave us. A comment is then well appreciated.
Station on Red: When you need to restart game/pc or go afk after letting know AFD.
Station on Amber: When you're sitting on console. Welcome!
Station on Green: When asked for go/nogo until Flight or AFD tells CAPCOM or ASTRO they are go then AMBER again.

||<@&909863188361801788> ||

[flint badger]

Gave +1 flight-hours to @rotund meadow

[abstract harness]

GUIDO

No

Actually

GNC

GNC

[rotund meadow]

astro

as usual

[abstract harness]

Lol

[queen quiver]

Dam was I too slow for capcom

Wait

That’s todays date

[sterile fox]

the 2nd

[abstract harness]

Yeah

[queen quiver]

?

[abstract harness]

That's today's date

Glory to Unix

[queen quiver]

I assume this is next week thing?

I don’t think I I can attend anyway

[abstract harness]

Yes

[queen quiver]

I’ll see how I go though

[abstract lava]

Can I steal? Would like to get some practice in before the A11 event

You can say no, I’ll take booster if not

[sterile fox]

Booster for lunar orbit? This stage of the mission we normally use the booster desk for advisors

[vernal crag]

take 2 section of pinned post doesn't apply because we got into lunar orbit (even if we used a ton of fuel to do so...)

[abstract lava]

wherever I’ll be useful ig, not totally in the know on what’s useful where

[dim spindle]

BOOSTER usually was manned by scientific experiment personnel after the saturn V complete its mission

[dim widget]

damn I wanted to do capcom lol

[abstract harness]

Entry isn't as demanding as it used to be but it has some quirks

[simple jackal]

I'll take FIDO

[dim widget]

Is guido a hard position?

[abstract harness]

It can be but if you have any issues I'm happy to help

[dim widget]

Might need to take you up on that offer then lol

[drowsy elm]

you or @stone nymph should have done Capcom this past session!

[stone nymph]

I was on eecom so I had things to do

[drowsy elm]

we could have shuffled things around and someone could have taken over eecom 😂

[stone nymph]

much easier to move just one person than two

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvedWquDMObj46vQN4GU1T5YXU5TFYmW4

grate music check it out

[dim widget]

I know I shouldve said something lol

[minor grove]

Is there a way to be an observer for this session? I don't have the skills yet to be useful, but a ride-along would be educational.

[pallid pebble]

@minor grove definitely. Just sit on the booster console like I did yesterday 👍🏻

I’ll be on to listen in as well. I’ll probably just stand in the back somewhere. The big boards will have the info I’m interested in.

[fair remnant]

Also it's often streamed

[sterile fox]

Yeah, definitely was helpful having your input on the flight loop

[abstract harness]

Especially the brute force idea

[fair remnant]

Which was?

[abstract harness]

Brute force a TEI using the SPS burn planner

Bypassing the circular orbit requirement

[fair remnant]

ah

[void maple]

Can we send up a custom pad?

[abstract harness]

No but we can calculate a best guess burn

Which is all we can do for that much given our limits

[fair remnant]

I mean you kinda can send up a custom PAD

[abstract harness]

It would be nice if we could generate them for the astro

Then use the comm reply thingy to send it as if he requested it from the crew menu

[sterile fox]

I mean something for retro and guido to do in downtime

[abstract harness]

Exactly

[sterile fox]

is making abort pads

[abstract harness]

But

We cannot calculate far enough ahead

There's too many limitations on what we can do RTCC wise at the moment

[sterile fox]

can't you just do the math for it?

all the numbers are some tv channel

[abstract harness]

This is we need an. External tool

[sterile fox]

https://elainecoe.github.io/orbital-mechanics-calculator/index.html

[abstract harness]

I thought people reported it doesn't work well for reentry

[sterile fox]

I haven't heard anything

[abstract harness]

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics

this has some good ones too if used togeahter

[drowsy elm]

omg i was in the same boat a few weeks ago! don't be afraid to jump in!

you can totally just sit in on the session, but feel welcome to ask questions or whatever when you feel like - everyone is pretty helpful

also @minor grove if you haven't joined a mocr session before, I'd recommend showing up a bit early to get things configured (it's not entirely obvious the first time around)

[rocky forge]

I wonder if we could have a sort of ride-along system with a new mission controller manning a station with an experienced one.

[drowsy elm]

yeah i think that's a great idea

[vernal crag]

That would work

[drowsy elm]

i think, ideally, there would be like more in-depth guides on each role that someone could really dig into ahead of their first session

[rocky forge]

Doesn't even have to be official and planned. Just have the opportunity to be like "hey, I know that station well. Come sit with me and I'll talk you through things when it's quiet."

[drowsy elm]

and then they'd do that session shadowing someone

yeah i love that

it certainly would have helped me the first time around (it still would lol)

[rocky forge]

I think we were kinda doing that by having TELMU and CONTROL be secondary EECOM and GNC.

[drowsy elm]

agreed, but I don't think eecom or gnc explicitly explain things to telmu and control

[rocky forge]

But a ride-along type system could prove good.

[drowsy elm]

like i think the mentor and mentee intent needs to maybe be a little more established (as long as both people want it)

[rocky forge]

Oh yeah. I'm not saying it should be required. Just if anyone wants to volunteer to teach.

[fair remnant]

Only issue I can think of is the cap on voice-connections

[drowsy elm]

that's true, it does get a little wacky as we approach cap

[rocky forge]

Valid. Though I'm thinking just one or two stations. Not every one neccesarily.

Like one session EECOM has someone just hanging around at his station. They stay on the EECOM loop and act as an extra pair of eyes, with the experienced controler being the one communicating on MOCR CONF.

Another session could have GNC and FDO, stuff like that.

[drowsy elm]

i think it would be cool if the less experienced controller was the one communicating, even if it's just the experienced one feeding them lines

but yeah i like the idea, it's def worth it

i feel like there are multiple brand new people every week and it's a tough barrier to entry, can be intimidating

[fair remnant]

Yeah, a lot of the stations are mostly easy

[rocky forge]

In general, just good to find ways to get everyone more involved.

While also not introducing more chaos.

[drowsy elm]

yes to the first, no promises to the second lol

[fair remnant]

BOOSTER? Look at how many engines are running. Is it 5, 4, 1? Are you supposed to have that many/few? You're good

[sterile fox]

that was the goal with control and Telmu but those are being used so overfow

[rocky forge]

I see. I'm just thinking we should make sure that the main stations are regularly communicating with their backups.

[drowsy elm]

i think a lot of roles could benefit from a streamlined checklist or guide of how to use the desk, i realize someone would have to take the time to create them but it would help to have a visual representation of what someone needs to be paying attention to when they're new

[rocky forge]

That could solve some of the boredom issues.

[drowsy elm]

like a little action tree with an if/then flow

[sterile fox]

true good point

[sterile fox]

^

[fair remnant]

Yeah that's basically what the mission-rules are

[drowsy elm]

i agree, but i think that's hard for someone who has no idea what's going on to understand

[fair remnant]

True

[drowsy elm]

like if it's your first time you don't know anything

[fair remnant]

We could setup more Discord VCs to make it easier

[drowsy elm]

oh that's a good point

everyone mutes anyway

[sterile fox]

Todd, Scorch, and I are going to sit down sometime this week and go over some stuff about mocr. I might post a feedback form so I can hear from you guys

[rocky forge]

Sounds good. Go team.

[fair remnant]

(GIFs are auto-removed in "serious" channels)

[drowsy elm]

oh i forgot

lmao

[fair remnant]

I forget at times, and I'm the one that setup the bot to do that

[sterile fox]

@drowsy elm @rocky forge I linked a feedback form in the event post. Please fill it out if you have any.

[abstract harness]

@fair remnant could you post the feedback link in the welcome post that way we can just link or point to it

[fair remnant]

Where?

[sterile fox]

In feedback?

[fair remnant]

ah

[sterile fox]

https://forms.gle/1TtpWf3eGbn2TEAW7

[abstract harness]

That said any urgent or pressing issues with a member should be brought to the Admins via a ticket

[abstract lava]

Can you route the responses to the mod team as well. I don’t know how google forms handles that

[sterile fox]

I can output them all in a Google sheet and share that to the mod team

[abstract lava]

I’d prefer if it got sent to an email

[fair remnant]

Google forms makes it quite easy to share with emails IIRC

[abstract harness]

hmm

true

[abstract harness]

they should be shared with the MMO team too

We should be kept in the loop esp sinc they are anonymous

i just feel like im often out of the loop on internal decisons

regarding MOCR not admin that is

obv

[fair remnant]

@sterile fox maybe include a bit that MMOs and admins can see the information submitted?

[abstract harness]

I cannot i have no access is my point

hence my concern about the rest of the team being in a info void

[sterile fox]

the team is being looped in

[abstract harness]

there has been a few internal decisons that i have not been a part of recently or informed of other then finding out on the go

i just feel like my opinion isnt being heard but this is not the place for me to talk about that

[sterile fox]

#🎧mocr-monday-organisers is

not a public event post

[abstract harness]

I know i just didnt wanna be that guy

[void maple]

?

[stone nymph]

what's the deal with having 2 people rostered on CAPCOM for next session
wondering how that would work?

[sterile fox]

Todd is going to supervise capcom we are trying out a new comms workflow

I will post more info closer to the mission start date

[abstract harness]

Also I'm gonna be very quiet unless needed

Or if Guido needs my assistance since I said I would help them

@sterile fox we should place bets on how many times Bob has to stop reading snoop dog genesis because he was laughing too much lol

[sterile fox]

👍

[abstract harness]

This is going to be absolutely hilarious

Oh right

[sterile fox]

@drowsy elm Do you still want pao or retro is better?

[abstract harness]

I think she was amazing at Capcom

[sterile fox]

Capcom is full

[abstract harness]

I mean technically they had two seats

[sterile fox]

We have two people signed up?

[fair remnant]

I think he means as in physically they had two seats IRL

[abstract harness]

Yes

[drowsy elm]

i actually won't be around this sunday ):

i also won't be there for the next one either

but i'm down to do whatever for the week after that!

i actually liked capcom, for the most part - but I wanna see how you guys change things with your new comms structure

[nova shale]

yeah Capcom is nice, but I kept forgetting to switch loops lol

[drowsy elm]

i kept forgetting to say "over" at the end of my transmissions and @void maple had to yell at me

[nova shale]

he told me and then I started doing it and he seemed to be satisfied

[abstract lava]

I don’t think “over” is used in MOCR transmissions

Correct me if I’m wrong tho

[nova shale]

A/G transmissions specifically

[dim spindle]

yeah its pretty frowned upon in general air/air air/ground communications..unnecessary

[drowsy elm]

i went back and listened to some recordings, they do use it sometimes on the a/g loop but not for every message

i think the concept is understandable, but idk how they decide when they say over or if it's arbitrary

[nova shale]

especially for one word things like Roger or Cutoff! it just seems weird

[drowsy elm]

yeah exactly

[dim spindle]

its not a required thing is all

sometimes comes out as natural

but enforcing it is frowned upon

[drowsy elm]

to be clear, he didn't actually yell at me lol

but yeah

[dim spindle]

if you are expecting a reply to the immediate question that is a case for an over

but again its just case by case

[sterile fox]

Oh yeah you told me that

[drowsy elm]

I sure did

[simple jackal]

Unfortunately I am going to be busy this sunday and can't do FIDO, apologies

[nova shale]

can I take FIDO then?

@sterile fox

[pallid pebble]

Using “over” on air to ground seems inconsistent even in the official Apollo recordings, so I don’t think it’s a huge deal. I can’t say I’ve ever heard it used in the modern MCC either. So, this one can probably be left up to discretion, unless the Astro or Flight prefers the comms to be that way.

[abstract harness]

I don't know.... Is homer Simpson really a reliable source XD

I'm kidding yes I noticed that too in the transcripts

[pallid pebble]

Lol, I changed my pfp for a joke earlier. Forgot to change it back 😂

[abstract harness]

Lol

[split bane]

I'd like to join in, but since every position is taken i'm fine with just observing if that's possible, or if a position opens up i can try to fill it.. i don't have much experience but i can definitely read up on it and learn quickly

[void maple]

You good luke

[rotund meadow]

i guess its OVER used

ill be here all week

[void maple]

@sterile fox not going to be able to make this one

[abstract harness]

@void maple what's our plan for backup flight? Do we promote wiz?

It's not a big deal we have a few days in figure it out

[sterile fox]

What do you mean back up Flight?

[rotund meadow]

ur flight right?

[sterile fox]

Yeah

[nova shale]

Retro is open feel free to join

[abstract harness]

Nevermind I misread it I thought he meant you were unable to make it 😅

[split bane]

I can definitely try retro

[nova shale]

it is a very watch and learn type of station, you won’t be actively doing much

[abstract harness]

Unless we're doing a Landing or launching

[nova shale]

neither of which we are doing this session most likely

[abstract harness]

We could always do a CM lunar landing XD

[nova shale]

that would be… ill advised

[sterile fox]

retro is free

[split bane]

Okay, i'll try that then.

[sterile fox]

As promised I've created a outline of the updated communications flow that we will be practicing for the foreseeable future
If you have any questions now is the time to read the document and ask them
<@&909863188361801788>

[sterile fox]

There you go

[abstract lava]

Hey @sterile fox apologies for the bait and switch but I will no longer be attending on the 9th. Going to see Oppenheimer instead lol

[abstract harness]

Sweet let me know how it is

[abstract lava]

Will do

[sterile fox]

no problem enjoy

[candid gale]

@sterile fox is there anything i could possibly do this session?

[split bane]

quick question, is there anything i should read up on or learn about before the session? I can't find much documentation on the procedures for mission control, and i can only really find a basic description of what RETRO does.. Sorry if I seem stupid, this is my first time doing Apollo mission control.

[abstract harness]

Only if you don't force choke anyone

XD

[candid gale]

lol

[sterile fox]

We have a support role open

[sterile fox]

as my flight instructor told me the only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

[candid gale]

which role is it?

[sterile fox]

anyways quick description on how to Retro

[split bane]

That's true i suppose

[sterile fox]

1. should know basic understanding of orbital mechanics
2. should be familiar with Burns and how much Delta V TEI requires
3. capable of generating abort pads with the help of guidance I suppose
4. overall knowledge of the flight plan and what's going to happen

[sterile fox]

booster

normally the person in that role sits around in twiddles their thumbs and helps people if they request it

also gives us there two cents on the MOCR CONF Loop

[candid gale]

so like does some stuff but not a lot

[split bane]

I think I can figure those things out

[candid gale]

i mean ill try booster i guess

[abstract harness]

RE 2 a general starting point is the amount used for LOI 1

[sterile fox]

ummmm well no because aft loi the csm's weight is waaay lower

[abstract harness]

True but it's a starting point

[candid gale]

is there anything i should know as well before joining?

[abstract harness]

And something is better than nothing

[sterile fox]

So the dV is going to be way less beacuse weight. And if you had a LM very very less

[sterile fox]

Read the new comms thing

and maybe watch a little of a live stream

I added time markers so you can jump around

[candid gale]

cool thanks so much

[abstract harness]

Know that physical mic toggle that I complain about on my headset

[sterile fox]

https://www.youtube.com/@ReEntryMOCR

[abstract harness]

I'm going to use that as an extra PTT

Give me time to think before I speak

However it may make me less efficient

[void maple]

That's ok it's about quality over quantity

[abstract lava]

nevermind oppenheimer comes out on the 21st

i’ll be at the event on sunday lol

[abstract harness]

Whooooo

[drowsy elm]

it was my very 1st time a few weeks ago too, you'll be ok! just ask if you ever get lost or confused

if anyone ever asks you a question you don't know just say "good question!" and ignore them 😂

[split bane]

lol

[fair remnant]

Teacher of the year material 😛

[vernal crag]

I hate to ask but could someone take the save and run up thru the final MCC so we have a estimated margin of fuel?

[nova shale]

I also hate to ask but I might not be able to make it (up in the air ATM) so could someone sign up to be my backup?

@sterile fox

[sterile fox]

@candid gale You able to be FDO?

[candid gale]

one sec lemme check out what fdo does

[fair remnant]

||Food Delivery Operations||

[candid gale]

i could try

[candid gale]

i get free food? hell yeah

[vernal crag]

Hey FDO, get me a italian BMT from Subway and please bring it to my desk at assistant flight

[candid gale]

10-4 sending it through fedex first class shipping est 2 days

[abstract harness]

Like I said last time im not sharing my cherries lol

[abstract lava]

gotta be a team player man

[abstract harness]

I'm not shipping him cherries they'd be rotten by the time he gets them

[vernal crag]

cancel the sub if it's gonna take 2 days to get here-it's not gonna taste good then

[abstract harness]

Loll exactly

[fair remnant]

Why would you share your keyboard switches?

[sterile fox]

Live Stream Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6bBCaVZ_3Q

[sterile fox]

Please Come Prepared Tomorrow
And have a read through of this doc
<@&909863188361801788>

[abstract harness]

Wait

It's to

Oh nevermind

Thought I lost track of what day it is lol

@vernal crag AFD can have beaver tails

Not even gonna question... Ok then

[split bane]

Quick question again, is there a flight plan for this or are we just using the regular apollo 11 flight plan from NASA?

[abstract harness]

this is 8

[sterile fox]

Flight Plan
(Updated 07/08/23)

[split bane]

Ohhhh.. Okay. Thank you very much!

[sterile fox]

no prob its my b

[nova shale]

I’m on a weekend trip and might not get back in time for the start of the session so wanted to have someone on standby

[burnt rain]

I'll be backup GUIDO

[sterile fox]

EECOM @rocky forge, @minor grove is going to be your counterpart / shadow. Try and work with him on the EECOM loop and if it’s not busy maybe send him to over to a different controller.

@pallid pebble you looking to get your hands dirty, or are you looking for a more advisory job?

[sterile fox]

worst case he can shadow you and you can help teach

[abstract harness]

좋은 아침이에요

Let's see if google can not fuck up something as simple as good morning

[fair remnant]

Keep it to English

[abstract harness]

Knowing google translate it's not even Korean lol

[burnt rain]

It's night over here

[fair remnant]

Well the symbols are clearly Korean

[burnt rain]

It does mean good morning

[abstract harness]

That's a first

[fair remnant]

Gtrans can get things right

[abstract harness]

Depends on the language

Depends heavily on the language

[fair remnant]

also what you're talking about

[abstract harness]

I wonder

[fair remnant]

For example in Norwegian there are different words for saving depending on if you're saving money, an object/file, or a life

[abstract harness]

Ah yeah probably should have expected Korean has no dedicated symbol for ∆

XD

[abstract harness]

Let's see

Lagrer filen

Did it work

[fair remnant]

Saving money: Spare
Lagre: Files, also storing objects
Redde: Save as in rescue (sometimes used for like "saving a car from destruction"

[abstract harness]

Ooo let's try something more complex

Livsparing

[fair remnant]

Yeah that's probably not a valid word (though tbf people would probably understand what you mean)

[abstract harness]

Ah and what did I mean

[fair remnant]

Saving a life

[abstract harness]

Nope

Life savings

[fair remnant]

ah

Checked: It is apparently a valid word https://naob.no/ordbok/livsparing

[pallid pebble]

Advisory for now. I’ve only got about 2 hours of availability

[rocky forge]

Copy that.

[abstract harness]

@sterile fox right you wanted data on deltav used in a 10 second burn right

I'll do that now before I boot up orbiter

[abstract harness]

@sterile fox In Lunar orbit ~10% of our fuel is ~587∆V

thats with the LM

a fully loaded LM

[fair remnant]

at what orbit, etc

[abstract harness]

he just wants a baseline number

[sterile fox]

can we get that without lm

[abstract harness]

^

[abstract harness]

oh god yes

or maybe

yes actually it would provide more per 10% since we are lighter

[fair remnant]

Yeah a doesn't stay constant during a constant F because of a changing m (F=m*a), but also where you are in your orbit changes

[abstract harness]

its a rough number to work with

and more then what we had

which was zip

[fair remnant]

Just wanted to confirm your suspicion

[pallid pebble]

@abstract harness Working TEI numbers?

[fair remnant]

What you could do is integrate a=F/m for a changing m over t

[abstract harness]

nah just a baseline for DV to % of fuel

[fair remnant]

given m=m0-b*t, where b is the consumption-rate of fuel

[abstract harness]

yeah.... no thanks...

speaking of numbers

i need to get those ones for chaos

i meant havoc

oh same thing

[sterile fox]

thats the variables you are using?

I see force

[fair remnant]

Just a basic estimate

[abstract harness]

i see a headache

[sterile fox]

m=mass?

t=time?

[fair remnant]

yes

[sterile fox]

b=burn? or

[fair remnant]

Basically the per unit time mass loss due to burning

[sterile fox]

whats that for the sps?

ie what #

[fair remnant]

idk

[sterile fox]

Well, it would be nice to get a baseline with the two different weights and then we can approximate how much fuel per weight and then get everything

Lm on and lm off is two pretty good weights

[abstract harness]

do it later

[sterile fox]

👍

[sterile fox]

http://www.astronautix.com/a/apollocsm.html

that might have the data

and this http://www.braeunig.us/space/specs/apollo.htm

[split bane]

Are we still doing this? It's roughly 30 minutes to start and i haven't heard anything for at least 2 hours

[fair remnant]

<@&901417263704444930> ^

[sterile fox]

👍

Yup I am around

[split bane]

Okay, just checking.

[nova shale]

also I should be there, but might have to leave early

[sterile fox]

just waiting on tiny bob

[split bane]

okay.

[sterile fox]

<@&909863188361801788>
**Preflight is up T-13m **
USA EAST

[dim widget]

@burnt rain Hey, I dont think I can make it to this one, are you good with subbing in?

[nova shale]

maybe we should have @candid gale sub in since he is without a job

well backup at least

[candid gale]

huh?

i thought i was uh suppossed to be fdo rn

[nova shale]

do you want to do GUIDO or be my backup

[candid gale]

i could try guido i guess

[nova shale]

great

[candid gale]

if thats ok

im in the right seat right?

[stone nymph]

yes

[nova shale]

yeah

[candid gale]

bru

@nova shale uh i think that u are in my seat rn

[nova shale]

I'm in FIDO

RIchard is in GUIDO

[candid gale]

uh

?

[split bane]

You were only assigned FIDO because we thought @nova shale wouldn't be able to make it

[candid gale]

oh

[nova shale]

yeah sorry

[pallid pebble]

Can someone share the stream with me?

[split bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6bBCaVZ_3Q

[pallid pebble]

@sterile fox Remember, you're Flight. You're saying your callsign last. Should be FDO, FLIGHT. 🙂

[sterile fox]

😦

[pallid pebble]

Happens all the time in the real world, too. No worries

[nova shale]

all right, I was thinking anyway

about how it's 8pm on Christmas Eve and we're at work...

actually closer to 9pm

"Flight, can we abort the mission so I can spend Christmas with my kids?"

[pallid pebble]

Bring 'em in, they can help crunch numbers.

🙂

[nova shale]

I love this game

that is MOCR

[sterile fox]

the rtcc is the kids

[pallid pebble]

The exterior is 100% accurate, btw. I'd love it if the rest of the hallway was visible around it 🙂

[nova shale]

yeah lol

like I've said floating in a void is the astronaut's job

[pallid pebble]

@sterile fox Sounding great, btw

[sterile fox]

less headache = new comms are working

[nova shale]

yeah lol

[pallid pebble]

Concur. It will take a little bit for folks to get the hang of it, but it will be easier

[abstract lava]

Taking off, good luck guys!

[sterile fox]

peace

[pallid pebble]

I've also got to run for now. @sterile fox Let me know your thoughts after you guys wrap up

[fair remnant]

I thought someone else was the pilot 😛

[nova shale]

sorry there’s a birthday dinner going on

[sterile fox]

so u coming back later then?

[candid gale]

could i sub in for him?

[sterile fox]

sure

[candid gale]

fdo yeah?

[sterile fox]

yup

[nova shale]

I'm joining back

sorry I was gone for so long

[sterile fox]

@rocky forge @nova shale

[nova shale]

huh

this is what I am looking at

[rocky forge]

That’s the line it draws between the spacecraft and the orbital body. Not the orbit itself.

[nova shale]

yeah, the orbit is gone for some reason

probably because we're hyperbolic

[rocky forge]

No. The orbit is just a really high flyby.

Yeah.

[nova shale]

the orbit line is not in view or gone

[rocky forge]

Correct.

[vernal crag]

@sterile fox you gonna come bk

[sterile fox]

I am cooking dinner

[vernal crag]

ah

[candid gale]

you guys need a fdo?

[vernal crag]

well, we're doing a hail mary of a burn plan

[candid gale]

oh lol

[vernal crag]

but you could rejoin

[candid gale]

for the third time

👍

[drowsy elm]

are you guys still going? I'm surprised you haven't called it yet

[split bane]

Yep, still going

[vernal crag]

we're in a hail mary burn-we depleted the SPS and are depleting 2 of the 4 RCS quads

[drowsy elm]

lol

wild

[vernal crag]

@sterile fox you gonna be done soon?

[sterile fox]

Just finishing up with the steak

[candid gale]

not at all related to the misson but PLEASE SHOW ME THE STEAK casue like food pics are so hot and food i like

[sterile fox]

Steak in my tum tum

cry about it

[candid gale]

aw man

how do u like ur steak i personally like mine charred all the way though

[sterile fox]

medium rare cuz I'm a normal human

[candid gale]

extremly done mhm

[sterile fox]

extra chewy

[candid gale]

like bubble gum

[sterile fox]

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[candid gale]

https://medal.tv/games/reentry/clips/1iCCnZi_5z0Y4u/d1337cNNSQnp?invite=cr-MSxmdnMsMjA4MjA4Njcs summary of the entire misson today

[abstract harness]

Yeah basically

Look what else are we supposed to tell taxpayers lol

[split bane]

I recorded about 48 minutes after somebody said "I wish flight was recording this" if anyone wants it i can upload it somewhere

It was during the part where we were doing the measure twice burn once deal

[vernal crag]

I did a bit too-upload wherever you got cloud storage then send a link to luke

[rocky forge]

Sorry I had to go. What was the outcome?

[sterile fox]

Astro is in a high orbit around the earth and is gonna lose power in a couple days

So more of a ish-him

[rocky forge]

👍

Well now we know to triple check our numbers, don’t proceed if the computer is acting weird, and leave plenty of time to prepare for burns.

[vernal crag]

He COULD be brought home if RCS is used though-that or equalize the fuel in the RCS quads

[dim spindle]

how much RCS is left

[vernal crag]

about 8% in quads B&D-we tried manuvering the spacecraft so A&C were thrusting in the correct orientation. We got the AP increasing and PE decreasing is the only problem

[dim spindle]

Yeah IRL you would have lost the quads by now

they cant function that low

not enough pressure

full RCS you have about 400fps or so dV to play with

[rotund meadow]

oopsie

they also got to 700+ degrees :)

[abstract harness]

Not to mention they hit 1000f so they'd be slag by now

[abstract harness]

Per quad?

[dim spindle]

no total

[abstract harness]

Ah

[dim spindle]

love to know how you knew they got that hot lol, the transducer tops out at 300F

[abstract harness]

GNC primary tab I'm guessing that limit isn't in the game

[dim spindle]

yeah another error

[abstract harness]

A minor inaccuracy

[minor grove]

Is it possible to re-run in single player from a multiplayer session game save? It would be interesting to see if the spacecraft could have been saved with correction applied as soon as the trouble was spotted.

[abstract harness]

Certainly

[nova shale]

yeah MOCR is just joining, you can run those saves on singleplayer (and we have)

[fair remnant]

If there's a save from the time you want to go on from, yes

[open dirge]

Mhm

[minor grove]

It sounded like somebody had a save just after the TEI burn during the 7/09 MOCR session. I'd love to get a copy if anybody has one.

[abstract harness]

@rotund meadow is the man to ask for that one

[rotund meadow]

Out and about rn but I’ll check when I get home