#Numerical stability
cedar heron
Another converter is https://baseconvert.com/ieee-754-floating-point
Some numbers will be rounded down, and others rounded up. The issue is if the result should be 0.5, but the path to get there added a slight positive or negative bias, and how it ends up rounding it.
0.5 can be exactly represented, but 0.3 and 0.2 cannot. So... Does 0.2+0.3 add up to just above 0.5, exactly 0.5, or just below 0.5? (and that will impact the direction of rounding)
jaunty ice
Yeah, ok, that's a little more interesting 🤔
What's the use example with Rom that we're considering these numbers? Or is it more a thought experiment?
cedar heron
For the captain ability, base is 1 round delay. Put on lvl 35 jellyfish (70% bonus), but then opponent has Kras to decrease it by 20%.
So, the ability is boosted by 50% in the end, but is that rounded up or down?
jaunty ice
For the captain ability, base is 1 round delay. Put on lvl 35 jellyfish (70% bon...
It's not 70%.
jaunty ice
stfc.space says jelly's ability is 70% for lvl35 jelly.
The ability lists as 70%, but it's not. It's 140%.
.. did DJ work it on 70%? 😅
cedar heron
It doubles? Then use lvl14 which is listed as 35% bonus?
jaunty ice
It doubles? Then use lvl14 which is listed as 35% bonus?
I can't test that one, mine is already at max 😅
cedar heron
You might be able to find a combination that yields a bonus of 150%, and use that, too.
jaunty ice
I'll see if I can find a Guinea pig later tonight 😬
For reference, so you don't have to take my word.
92% shield mitigation from 5% 1of11, so running at 2.4x (140% bonus).
Tell me that DJ wasn't doing math on this with the wrong numbers though? 😅
cedar heron
Ok... Try your jelly with and without michael burnham. Without, my impulse speed is 118. With, its 144.
My burnham boosts by 15, but I actually got a difference of 26. That's a 70% boost.
jaunty ice
Ok... Try your jelly with and without michael burnham. Without, my impulse speed...
Throw cadet Scotty on the side and check warp range.
jaunty ice
Oh, captain actually.
jaunty ice
Has to be captain ability.
Just put on cadet Scotty..
cedar heron
Cadet scotty made it go from 21 to 26.
jaunty ice
As captain?
jaunty ice
cedar heron
Weird. It did go up.
jaunty ice
These are the stats that you're trusting, don't 😅
Shield mitigation amounts are returned by server, listed stats are calculated by the client.
molten kettle
Wait, baby jelly has the doubling bug?
jaunty ice
Wait, baby jelly has the doubling bug?
You didn't know? 😬
cedar heron
I'm seeing it as it increases the officer ability of the captain, too?
molten kettle
You didn't know? 😬
I never looked at the ship 🤷♂️
jaunty ice
I'm seeing it as it increases the officer ability of the captain, too?
The point is that listed stats are.. questionable.
molten kettle
Well, now things make sense
cedar heron
Yes, it's wrong. My jelly is listed as warp 30, but going to a warp 27 system says "path invalid".
Maybe the client boosts the captain's officer ability, but that doesn't happen on the server.
jaunty ice
Not on Ripper, the client is just poorly done.
cedar heron
New observation: TOS Scotty's ability isn't boosted on the jellyfish server-side... still have an invalid warp message.
jaunty ice
Well, now things make sense
So I should have listened to it live I guess, could have pointed this out earlier 😂
molten kettle
So I should have listened to it live I guess, could have pointed this out earlie...
I wasn't there live either. I said before the show don't talk about it, but people don't listen.
jaunty ice
Oh yeah, people never listen. I guess they thought over 3 hours that they might figure it out, but it'll never work out if your underlying assumptions are wrong 😬
jaunty ice
So now when you guys post your next podcast where you've figured it all out, I get credit for this, right? 😂