🏆-event-chat

[cunning radish]

sometimes itll be gas, sometimes ore, sometimes crystal

[tulip raptor]

Do you mean from arc to arc?

You speak the truth

[wintry cypress]

I'm feeling it right now. 90k green crystal for all the faction miners ain't an easy task 😞

[cunning radish]

Yeah.

[ripe jungle]

Depends on ops level too. At ops 38 all three materials are 32 uc and 16 rare per ticket event

And I usually find gas is harder than crystal. The battlepass itself gives more crystal than gas, and you need gas for a lot of research and buildings as well, and I’d guess almost everyone decides to get an enterprise at least as a second epic.

[bold citrus]

To make the picture complete: I want more ore!!! 😂 (need to scrap battleships en masse)

There you have it: one wants crystal, other wants gas, another wants more ore.

As you can see different players different problems

[wise spire]

Hello there 😀🖖! Does anybody have an idea about when the next military supremacy event comes up?

[ripe jungle]

If you get it, it runs in parallel with crucible of war, which should start possibly today or sometime in the next week at least

[wise spire]

Ok, thank you 👍

[bronze hull]

Well, assuming you discount the ones that are scoring lag, anyways.

[dusky flame]

Any1 else feel ripped off. I worked hard and used a lot of materials to get first in the 1st Pike SLB to unlock SNW Pike, and now on the last SLB they decide to add Regular Pike and a bunch of SNW Medals as part of the rewards?!

[desert laurel]

A little, but not really. The game's constantly getting easier so the effort you put in today would yield more a year from now. The reality is that saving forever for more value is never ending, and at some point you should just cash in and accept that the future has it easier.

[dusky flame]

No thats BS. @pseudo rune are you just rewarding the people that decided to hold all the materials till the very last SLB. I feel like anyone who placed in the first two Pike SLBs should be compensated at least the regular Pike shards that are included in this last SLB.

[bitter snow]

Thought you tagged candle for some reason 😂

[bitter snow]

What about people who did the first Picard auctions, vs those who did the more recent ones with Picard/Bev both in the payouts?

[neat barn]

diamond hands! may get 1st this lb

[abstract gate]

It's a little different when it's in the same month and the pattern changes in that same month for an identical event

[dusky flame]

Exactly!

I mean Pike shards would’ve been a huge game changer for me. I don’t know why more people aren’t upset about this!

[bitter snow]

Probably because the majority of players already have him

Maybe not on your server, but, overall

[brave chasm]

Yea I’m annoyed about that too

[ripe jungle]

They’ve done this before, when they added 10/11 to the last 3/11 slb

[pale kestrel]

omg yes! apex outlaw coming up!🥳 🥳 🥳 🥧 🥳 🥳 🥳

[rough mist]

its just like the defense gun nerf use to get 1.3k ultra recruit from one gun during station event now takes like 4 guns

[dusky flame]

I sent a message to @pseudo rune . I don’t know if he responds to pms. I would suggest to any one that if it’s important to you that you send a message also. The more voices that speak up the better the chance they’ll listen…

[lyric timber]

im confused i didnt miss a single event, and i didnt get the last reward by 10 points...

[pale kestrel]

100

[desert laurel]

Based on your pts, you've missed credit for the final MS of an event that was worth 6k pts. You can contact CS to find out which one that was

[abstract gate]

I would have done better if I hadn't gone hard in the 2nd event🥲

[lyric timber]

finding out multiple people missing the last reward.

[dusky flame]

That’s what I’m saying! If I had known they would randomly add extra rewards to the last slb I wouldn’t have worked to get 1st place in the first one!

[scenic kernel]

they very often add extra reward in the last slb

[analog moth]

Same I missed the reward from the overflow by 100 points... I completed every event the only way to get more was to pay

[abstract gate]

No, it was completable f2p. You can contact CS to find out which one you missed

[celest ermine]

I completed all event and did get the last reward

[pale kestrel]

i didn't buy anything but the elite pass unlock and i had 5900 extra bp points

[celest ermine]

And I didn't buy anything, even the battlepass

[analog moth]

I completed the battle pass 2 or 3 days ago. Finishing the bp is usually easy I'm not sure why I was 100pts off

[abstract gate]

Because you missed a milestone

[celest ermine]

I think that's why, because you should complete the battlepass 4 days ago, instead of 2 to 3 days

[silver pike]

Sounds like you missed a 6k points milestone somewhere

[analog moth]

Sigh

[sharp cairn]

Its frustrating. You're not going to get relief here though. Open a ticket with CS - if you're right and completed everything they'll fix it. If not, they'll tell you what you missed.

[smoky sedge]

now that is weird i got 317.5 k in points and i didnt miss an event either so mine overflowed

[rich coral]

Either I forgot where it is (again) or it hasn’t loaded, but where is the Apex chest that contains the rare directives? I thought that was in the Recruit area.

[abstract gate]

Thats crucible of war, not apex

[rich coral]

Crud, you’re right.. lol

[abstract gate]

Probably sometime this week!

[rich coral]

Wishful thinking for CoW over Apex i guess. Something about mining data on mining monday with no event synergy just makes my mind wander. 😏

[abstract gate]

TPs for the win

[rich coral]

Yeah, I mine data thru the month to get credits to buy max augment chests. But then I forget that I bank the Z tokens, so now I have 400 saved for me to promptly forget about next month.

[jolly tulip]

Same boat as you feels a little bad to see this happen. Not a fun game experience

[main spindle]

@desert laurel i hate it when people say based on your points u missed a MS when if fact i know i didnt miss one dam milestone cuz i check every night before I go to bed and don't go to sleep till the battle pass event is done what do i need to start taking ss of the dam all milestones compleated now that would be kinda bs to have to do that

[desert laurel]

I said you missed credit for it, there are many reasons that could be. I don't have access to the server logs and I'm not checking.

[molten shale]

I sent in a form for mine

[main spindle]

As it stands idk if cs saw my ticket i put one in on top of a previous ticket because there was no way to start a new ticket@desert laurel

[dusky flame]

Yea I really feel like if Scopely announces that an event is going to happen 3 times in a given month, that we should be able to expect that the rewards will be consistent across all three times an event is ran. I shouldn’t have to miss out on extra rewards because I went hard to win the first time the event ran. @pseudo rune can we please get some sort of acknowledgment on this?

[fierce flower]

@pseudo rune I thought we were suppose to be to get both rares with Battle pass. Well I guess not unless you used ticket event which was not communicated. And that should never be used as the way to get the default amount.

[coral minnow]

Is there supposed to be an event store where I can spend the SNW tokens?

[desert laurel]

SNW tokens can be used in the officer recruit section

[dusky flame]

@coral minnow it’s in the Recruit section.

[coral minnow]

I am level 19 and there doesn't seem to be anything

am I just too low for it?

[wintry cypress]

Can you post screenshots of your recruit section?

[wintry cypress]

Then you really don't have it

Yay, more useless currencies in Inventory

Maybe you get a chance to exchange em next Month

[desert laurel]

I've escalated the missing exchange issue.

[coral minnow]

🙏

[abstract gate]

It wasn’t ever stated that we would unlock any officer this month. That said sourcing was extremely poor this month

[scarlet gyro]

can someone tell me if ops 42 and 43 are the same brackets regarding event difficulty?

[desert laurel]

Different events will have different segments. Check out stfc.space for a list of events that have run in the past and you can compare what's likely to happen in the future

[desert laurel]

The exchange has been pushed, and should populate soon if it hasn't already.

[coral minnow]

Thanks 🙂

[fierce cosmos]

Speaking of those shards, any word on getting a free pull due to them pulling the SNW part 4 missions which would have awarded 800? And did they just forget about Barcley and the holodeck halfway through the arc? Heh

[scenic kernel]

Barcley is right here

[brazen ivy]

And look how sad he is that they forgot about him and his holodeck, just another useless building.

[scenic kernel]

and he is horrify at the price of those packs, 4 of them, to not even unlock him 🤣

[woven rain]

Speaking of the holodeck, is there a free source for the pattern buffers or is this literally just gonna sit there and rot like the vault?

[wide umbra]

at least the vault gives some buffs when you upgrade it

[ornate geyser]

I’ve already forgotten it’s there…

[woven rain]

True.

[abstract gate]

One can only hope they eventually trickle some free missions our way

[dapper drum]

Whats this word free you speak of?

[hearty island]

Everyone should feel free to buy the holodeck mission unlock that gives you awesome 2* ressis

[shy flare]

Was wondering what does the first column mean on the SLB?

[robust vapor]

Explanation I've heard, which looks to fit, is that it's change in position since last the leaderboard ran, but measured like regular numbers. So 1st with -18 means that they were 19th last time.

[shy flare]

That makes sense. Thanks for the info.

But shouldn't it be +18

[keen mist]

No, it shows where you were last time.

Plus minus no matter, you've improved by 18 (19?).

[cunning radish]

It’s pretty buggy and not reliable though

Just ignore it it’s useless 🤣

[cunning radish]

They’ve done this several times in past 6 months

It’s basically standard by now

[abstract gate]

You can be upset but it's a clear tactic they use (so unlikely to change) and I've seen it before. Players and more importantly spenders blow their wads on the first two auctions, if the 3rd auction had only the same rewards and they did well previously they are less likely to break out the wallet so gotta pump the rewards up

[cunning radish]

@main spindle so did they reply?

was it your mistake or theirs?

[main spindle]

No i still have not heard from CS

[cunning radish]

😦

[robust vapor]

That's why I said like regular numbers. They're saying you were 19 and now you're 1, so -18 is the change (+18 would mean you're now 37). It's counter intuitive.

[vital drum]

I did so well with Pike, sometimes it's worth blowing a load for good crew. He and Spock work straight out of the bag which is amazing. Hope he gets some equally awesome sidekicks for other ships, would love an interceptor crew for Borg Probes hint hint!

[silver pike]

I don’t think SNW Spock will be the only specialised officer to come 😅 I think more will follow

[abstract gate]

One against surveys was already leaked even

[vital drum]

Seems unlikely, hey. Pretty excited for next month to be fair, I know there have been a lot of complaints this arc but the release of such a great new crew is pretty noteworthy

[abstract gate]

The crew is great. It’s a shame it got so deeply buried under all the issues

[vital drum]

Grab the good stuff while people are complaining and carrying on like pork chops lol

[abstract gate]

I really really tried! Broke and 7 shards short 😬

In game broke that is, not buying packs for some officer 😀

[vital drum]

There will likely be an event store, so easy to get T1, and that's all you'll need for a while

[wide umbra]

so you should use SNW pike and co for swarms?

[neat barn]

Did not work for me, 35, but sounds like higher ops or you have to promote them a couple

[graceful shard]

Kang jaylah SNW Spock work great on 49 swarms

[inner cave]

Heard snw Spock (c), jaylah kang is meant to be good

[warped stag]

Swap Kang for SNW Spock and you’ll get a lot more.

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[mental tulip]

I actually just posted some notes in #800436705022181386 but once I got Spock to T2 the trio was fantastic on a Franklin in swarm space. I imagine once Pike is at T2 it would be even better.

SNW Spock at T2 puts 800% crew defense to mitigation. Ensure you're maxed and then staff overflow for defense and suddenly they're a beast.

[wispy pike]

Is it possible to get some clarity on the remaining events between Apex and the next BP please, @pseudo rune?

[wind fog]

So, new swarm crew is Kang (c), Spock, Jaylah?

[drifting marsh]

It doesn't work that well on a Frank A with only 2 below deck slots and Tendi & Boimler. Might have worked if I rearranged to try and stack attack and defense, and I can see that it would be great once I can get my Frankie A up a bit farther. I did have really good luck today with Bev (c), SNW Spock, Jaylah with defense and health stacked below decks.

It's really a matter of what you do below decks for a SNW spock build to work on swarms I think.

[robust vapor]

I'd assume more than 800% really even, presumably applied as an increase before your standard % based bonuses.
What mitigation % are you getting with him though?

[inner cave]

Stack for attack and def

[muted robin]

Can we advocate for something to be implemented in the next maintenance update? Please if you read this and agree press a react emoticon on my post and get attention for this.
Those three 30 systems at the top of muddspace above Penumbra? Keep them grinding systems BUT change the reds to level 42s at the very least. Todays event proves the systems we have are too constrained for the players. Theres just not enough targets.

[inner cave]

Apex hunter and apex rouge both running together?? Aren’t these usually staggered

[grizzled mulch]

🤦‍♂️

[bitter snow]

top and bottom just chancing it there 😂

[grizzled mulch]

As far as I know, none of those alliances got a warning that the armada was already running

[worldly kelp]

Oh joy. Another armada event where so many glitches makes it impossible to actually participate. Come on scopely fix your servers already

[fierce cosmos]

It's not them, it's everyone else's internet speed's fault... Could never be a central problem with their stuff ...

[worldly kelp]

Been happening on the server I’m on. The armada does not show then you click start and gives you an error that unable to start.

[worldly kelp]

Lol. You’re right. They will always blame the players instead of responsibility. And the server I’m on supposedly just finished maintenance this morning.

[fierce cosmos]

I've literally seen an armada get claimed as it was still fading in/spawning. No idea how folks can be THAT quick to click three times.

[modern finch]

Sparked 2 epic Mudd-Madas and didn’t get the points toward the event, send a ticket and get told due to high volume 2 days for a response…..on a 1 day event. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[silver pike]

They can still add points after the event is over and give you missing rewards

[ripe jungle]

Lag. Showed up for them a couple seconds earlier than for you

[woven torrent]

So does scopley realize there's a eclipse armada event?? On server 56 I scanned over three systems in area and not one armada was active for almost five minutes...then one appears and 19 alliances all try for it...only to sit and waste a day waiting for one armada you might get...so scopley wants us starring at our phone all day in hopes of getting on the board...ty scopley

[abstract gate]

Contact support with a screenshot, they’ll reimburse the directives

[abstract gate]

New feature

499€ armada spawn pack

Don’t sit and wait all day. Just go do something else and revisit it later when most are done

[fading tiger]

Gotta pay the Discovery cast for all those new commercial spots.

[abstract gate]

Star Trek IP ain’t cheap

[fading tiger]

Not my problem someone dosnt know how to negotiate a rights contract.

[pseudo rune]

I'm working on trying to get all that info for everyone today!

[wide umbra]

@pseudo rune do you guys get hazard pay having to deal with all the bent up ppl that complain about random stuff thats not really anyone's fault?

[novel otter]

Waiting for an armada target to appear. May take a while!

[fading tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-many-months-later-three-weeks-later-waiting-so-much-later-gif-16351997

[barren shale]

The lag in this game is insane. I've been waiting 28 hours for the snw recruit pulls to credit and nothing. Scopely is silent on the issue. Why bother with events if there's no rewards?

[hexed lark]

Scopely, fix the lag and spawning of armadas or just do away with the crap as rewards are not worth hours of frustration to get 1 friggin armada!!!!!

[patent cloud]

Another complete FAILURE on Scopely .... Eclipse armadas none to be found and if one shows up there won't be another one for ever and a day ... I know players have been asking Scopely to change this for the past 2 years I've been playing but Scopely doesn't care, they just want to keep giving us the big middle finger

[mental tulip]

I know it doesn’t fit the whining narrative but … if people have been asking for years for a thing to be changed and they haven’t changed it, maybe that’s how they wanted it to be? It’s just a crazy thought…

[neat barn]

doesn't mean it can't change

[restive barn]

you could add some systems just like they have in other areas of the game. you would think they would want to sell more Ultra Outlaw Packs. I know people who just give up on the event because it is too hard to get in armadas but i bet they would pay for packs if there was more armadas to be had.

[fierce cosmos]

I also think adding more systems is what's needed over increases spawn rate (though that still would be good).

[karmic vault]

I'm waiting for new systems with higher levels and a Stella-A to add to our scrap/recycle-fest... 🙂

[static wigeon]

Bound to happen

We haven't had any problems other than the usual 2 Alliances, one Armada shenanigans and it's a busy server so I wonder why our spawn rate seems unaffected when others aren't.

[fading tiger]

What they "want" is irrelevant when it's aggravating their income source.

[elder jasper]

Thank you @pseudo rune it was nice to complete Apex in 30 hours... just curious what will happen tomorrow

[tall palm]

What do we need heist loot badges for?

[verbal stump]

would be great if we have another event to collect trophies to help small alliance complete Apex Outlaw

[abstract gate]

The event store

[gray ravine]

Can we get the lag cleared on 44? Game is unplayable right now

[west eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-lag-is-real-gif-10683189

@pseudo rune every server is lagggg central!

[abstract gate]

Yeah our server is lagging too and we normally don't get lag

[devout holly]

Yep can not re-shield and need to get to bed!

[dull pagoda]

Lag is absolutely out of control on server 28 right now

[winter quarry]

Same on server 22

[rotund elk]

Maybe the lag is a new difficulty level for the event?

[fierce cosmos]

All servers will now have "Heroic" added to their titles. It was always intended...

[neat barn]

Heroic Server Latency

[tulip raptor]

On the THIRD day of Apex my true love gave to me…an armada in Eclipse space!

[abstract gate]

Did you log a ticket with CS? Ticket turnover is up to 5 business days

[full umbra]

5 business days? Wow, when they automated the ticket system did they get rid of all the actual support staff? 🤔😂

I remember a time when you would get a response next day at the latest. 🤷‍♂️

[cunning radish]

Too many people having a sook every time every little thing happens

[abstract gate]

This. CS tied up with “this guy I called a xxx is killing my ships everywhere and I can’t do anything and you need to ban them because it’s totally toxic” - usually neglecting the bit where they called them a name…

[dull pagoda]

Lag still unbearable on server 28, chat takes 20 seconds to register, systems can barely load

[long slate]

Are you guys ready for “Lagcursions”?

I foresee much lag when Scopely tries to implement server vs server PvP.

[edgy gull]

um, I am destroying Exchange transports for some time but it doesn't count towards my progress 🤔🤷🏻

anybody has same issue?

[pulsar fossil]

I’m having the issue with my dailies, sending helps to alliance and killing hostiles but they aren’t counting for my dailies

I can’t test the events, as I finished them yesterday

[peak tangle]

Yeah same

[dull dove]

Same here scoring just up and stopped. Eclipse arms and hostiles not counting

[pulsar fossil]

Could be bogged down, looks like mine are starting to trickle in

[edgy gull]

same, so just lags

[dull dove]

Yep it's lag mine just showed up

[covert arch]

I foresee burning servers and some wildly random compensation chests

[solemn lynx]

Completely unplayable it lags too much

[weary elk]

I agree ....🤨

[winter quarry]

Another mat spend event?!!! Seriously?

[cobalt grove]

4th officer spend event in a month? Come on.....

[winter quarry]

Would be fine if you’d FIX THE DAMN REFINERY OUTPUTS

[burnt kernel]

some notice would of been appreciated....

[crystal stream]

40k mats in 21 days. Are we getting 2k mats in a day and I don't know about it?

[cinder pebble]

WOW same event back to back...LAZY

and another spend event on officers I do not need

[winter quarry]

You could not be any more tone deaf to your user base Scopley

[weak copper]

People are constantly asking for events to get Harrison shards. Those events have always been auctions. So it is giving people what they asked for. Personally, I finally unlocked him last month so I’m ignoring this latest event. Just because it’s there doesn’t mean you have to do it.

[cobalt grove]

A little notice would be nice...

[wintry cypress]

You had. 4 Minutes and 59 seconds 🙈

[cinder pebble]

they gave us 5 min

[full notch]

This going to be a break day for me 😁

[cinder pebble]

its been a break month

[fierce cosmos]

Looks like server lag is ramping up again. Still no acknowledgement or communication from Scopley. Not even a "we're aware, looking into it".

[gusty pulsar]

maybe only the constant reminders they are doing maintenance.

[south arrow]

I’m not doing any of the stupid events just more time off

[sonic stirrup]

I just love trying to do anything in the game but all I get is scanning... for minutes on end smdh

[fierce cosmos]

That has nothing to do with the server lag issues last night and right now... But it does show that they have someone posting updates, though most likely they have a bot set to post a delayed update with their maintenance schedule.

[waxen galleon]

Gotta love the lag. Thank you for all the server maintenance.

[neat barn]

Don't worry, STFCv1 is on the way!!! Some year.

[icy sedge]

Do G6 materials never give points?

[wintry cypress]

No, because technically aren't in the game yet. Same stuff happened before G5 was a common thing

[neat barn]

Yeah, but what about G7?

[wintry cypress]

G7 is not even a thing like G6 is 😂

[neat barn]

I think my truck takes G7 🤔

[wintry cypress]

Whut?

[icy sedge]

Referring to that one as an example. so that cannot be obtained yet?

[wintry cypress]

It can, by purchasing

[gray ravine]

And here we go again with the lag. Will someone at Scopely please give the hamsters some water or something?

[wintry cypress]

But it's not in the game like needed for Ships or anything

[icy sedge]

OK, perhaps I should have rephrased: Is there any benefit in getting the G6 materials for research for spending events?

[wintry cypress]

no

G6 don't count, yet

[icy sedge]

Phew

[main spindle]

What's up with the lag didn't have any yesterday till i finished my ops 40

[fathom tide]

So its your fault CJ, thanks for nothing

[main spindle]

Lol

[grizzled mulch]

Looks like someone bought the $99 latinum vault again. Servers simply can’t handle that level of riches

[balmy verge]

G6 is a forward looking material for when folks start moving into the 60+ levels that have not been implemented. They did the same with w/ G4 when folks were in 30s and G5 when folks started in the 40s.

<@&509690795536941056> when can we expect lag issues w/ US servers to be addressed? Going on day 2 and really making it difficult to complete events.

[wintry cypress]

Lagging issue has been escalated already 🖖

[odd orchid]

Mining corrupt data can't be that resource intensive... can it?

[vague seal]

Jeepers... enough with the auction events... very tiresome to see them every day

[distant imp]

I can believe the is another spend event 2 days after the last one, which is impossible to finish as used all the 3 and 4* uc and above in the previous 3 events this month and also no directives as again used them all in the event this month. Would have been better to do something else or at least give us something to help get it completed.

[gloomy thorn]

escalated means yea we were told and we dont care, send us your money NOW!!!

[balmy verge]

I never bother w/ SLBs. The value is never worth it & the likelihood of going from 1 to 15 when someone dumps cash, resources, materials, etc. as event ends is too high.

[scarlet gyro]

scopley really tries to drain us dry. luckily the rewards for spending are atrociously bad and even the leaderboard rewards are a joke

[neat barn]

They aren't here to entertain us, just drain our wallets

[scarlet gyro]

for a game which is essentially entertainment thats a sad statement

[scenic kernel]

if they weren't producing entertainment, they would have trouble to drain our wallets

[neat barn]

Very much, feel like it drags the Star Trek name through mud

[scarlet gyro]

still getting back to the events lately. its way too much spending events

also directives give far too few points. they are basically useless at this point as a scoring mechanic

[scenic kernel]

no one forcing you to spend

[neat barn]

Your bar for entertainment is low

[scenic kernel]

paramount is better at it though

[neat barn]

Um, not really . ..

I like the new shows

[scarlet gyro]

never said i would but scopley cant admit that a lot of their events use outdated scoring mechanics and/or rewards

[scenic kernel]

incidentally SNW is good, disco/picard are not

[neat barn]

Kinda think opposite on those two

Snw is new though, needs to hit it's stride

[scenic kernel]

it does, but it is the first show in a long time that goes back to the root of star trek, exploration and weird science

[neat barn]

Guess you missed mushroom drive

[scenic kernel]

they aren't really exploring in disco, last season, they visited two worlds and then we watched burnham whining the entire season. They had a good opportunity to mix exploration and diplomacy while rebuilding the federation, and instead wasting it on a quest to fight a super alien that want to destroy the entire galaxy after the previous season when a child had somehow managed to destroy the civilisation with a thought.

[haughty tapir]

Hahaha guess that means you guys are almost as sick of hearing about it as players are of experiencing it

[neat barn]

probably not a fan of DS9 then if that's your standard for all Star Trek

Disco and Picard had some great world building

[harsh pecan]

Did Disco really have good world building? 75% of the bridge crew who've been their since Season 1 I have no idea who they are other than just people standing there so the bridge doesn't look empty.

[neat barn]

i though so - wish we got more Killy!

[abstract gate]

Scopely vs my uncommon material supply

[novel hollow]

Sounds like standard Star Trek fair. Tos you knew Uhura Kirk Spock and sulu and checkov

[distant ravine]

Does 6* score?

[versed osprey]

what do you think?

[desert laurel]

No

[silver pike]

No since it’s not officially in the game. The same happened when G5 first released

[harsh pecan]

That just proves the point more. You also forgot about Bones and Scotty, and arguably Chapel when giving that list. In Disco its pretty much just Burnham, Saru, Stamets/Culber and Tilly.

[neat barn]

sounds like you missed a lot

[harsh pecan]

Had to look up the other people's names, but there was almost nothing done for Detmer, Joann, Rhys, Bryce, and Linus. At least up through end of Season 3.

[novel hollow]

Bones and Scotty weren’t standing in the bridge neither was Stamets or Culver

[jolly carbon]

You missed a few episodes of TOS in which they did. And Scotty had an engineering station on the bridge opposite side from Uhura.

[ornate geyser]

Discovery is like a Star Trek skin of bad Harry Potter fan fic. Found it unwatchable by season 3.

[harsh pecan]

So Burnham has Harry's extensive ability in everything he touches, Hermoine's extensive knowledge, and Ron's extensive crying? I can see that.

[novel hollow]

Why email when you can have a 20 min convo about something that shoulda been a one line email

Teams sux I miss pidgin

[cinder inlet]

This new event sounds like 💩. Suppressing shields is just another way to feed the whales and wallet warriors. As is allowing people to go from server to server to raid. And as the system is laggy as 💩. I’m betting it will be a total failure

[distant scroll]

@pseudo rune
Is the suppressing of shields imposed upon everyone eligible to participate in both servers or just those who relocate to the other server?

[iron cairn]

Sounds like a bad idea

[distant scroll]

I'm 100% F2P and it takes me months to save up for certain things. I just spent the last 3 months saving up for a new ship. If I was raided every time this event came around, I would no longer be able to progress effectively.

[pale kestrel]

move to a level 19- system

[cinder inlet]

If I get looted because of this event I’m quitting the game. And they will lose the small amount of money they get off me monthly. As it is I’m getting bored as all new content is directed at levels way above me because I don’t progress as fast as the whales do.

[cinder inlet]

And what happens when all those systems fill up??

[pale kestrel]

it's going to fail anyway, they barely got crosserver leaderboards showing names on your own server last time they had a xslb,. they had put out an update later that was suppose to show the names of the other server but that didn't even work.

[cinder inlet]

And what levels are territories considered??

[oblique dock]

20+

[distant scroll]

This new event just allows people to go around and kos/ehit everybody for a few days. I see no point to it apart to weaken the minnows and strengthen the whales. Even if you were online, all you would be able to do is sit and watch as 40+ players come in and take everything you have while you are defenseless.

I would be fine with this type of event if they allowed shielding.

[cinder inlet]

This doesn’t answer his question tho. It’s just saying we know. Not when will it be fixed

[main spindle]

I wouldn't participate in this incursion crap sorry I'll stay in my low lv system during this BS

[hasty lintel]

I have my doubts about this event like most and agree that Scooply will find a way to screw it up royally. But, Im willing to give it a go and see what’s happens. If you don’t want to move, pop a 7 day shield the day before it starts. If you do want to move to a lvl 19 system or less, there are plenty. Obviously you have forgotten about all those lvl 1 systems people like to hide out in.

It better be worth it though. Decent rewards and officer.

I can also say, i will not be participating in the event for the first 6 hours or so. I could see this screwing up to where it requires a roll-back.

[distant scroll]

It's fine and all to say that but when you get a lot of your resources amongst other things from PvP, it's a bit hard to abstain from that for a week.

[cinder inlet]

I don’t think that is how it works. I get the feeling ‘suppressed shields’ means in 20+ systems your shields drop. I feel this because of the comment that the counter does not decrement while suppressed and the 10 min shield doesn’t come up

[main cairn]

So the event is basically shutting off everyone's shields? I'd be awfully angry if I put up a 7 day shield and an event happened while I was on vacation or something.

[peak latch]

or a 30 day

[cinder inlet]

Or in prison or a mental hospital. This comment is based on our server’s general chat

[shrewd knot]

So there will be a whole other server of people with larger ships I can't beat cuz the range of attacks. That sounds... annoying.

[main spindle]

I don't think its going to be worth the headache and stress its going to bring for all F2P players and lite spenders

[cinder inlet]

And I think technically it will be a massive failure. I don’t get the feeling scopley is up to the challenge without messing up royally. Their past performance does predict future performance

[main spindle]

@shrewd knot and u will have no shield in any system above lv 19 and territory's

[shrewd knot]

It'll be great for higher level people who get to graze on all the unsuspecting people. Congrats for the them. Pvp in this game is garbage because it's incredibly one sided. Also who wants to bet there is some glitch that transfering systems you lose rss or something else. Lol

[main spindle]

Just think how much money scopely will lose because people won't by packs with resources that will just get stolen

[cinder inlet]

Or somehow the shield suppression borks and leaves everyone vulnerable

[novel otter]

Not just unsuspecting players. What can you do if you see your station being raided. Nothing, because your shields do not work...

[white coral]

Then pay attention to your base and move

[cinder inlet]

If they Allowed us to convert our resources to tokens even at a 5% vig it might be fun but nah I’m not risking what I studiously saved and protected for the fun of bullies and whales

[solid reef]

Will likely be few player participating in the incursion events. Whales sure, other will shield and walk away

They should call it the purge 😂

[round ivy]

Did they say when this poopshow starts?

[hoary frigate]

Yes, when does this start? Some alliance mates are on vacation with 7 day shields.

[vital pagoda]

Will relocation tokens be readily available?

[toxic sinew]

I really think they are actively trying to kill the game. Get folks to quit then problem solved.

[livid viper]

They already are I have hundreds of them...

[lost abyss]

They are apparently getting a marvel game together, so likely just going to push resources from here to that and let this die a quiet death once the whales get the hint.

[livid viper]

They all ready have a marvel game

It was released in 2018

A few months before this gamr

[lost abyss]

They are making a new one. Their hiring portal has positions for a new marvel game apparently.

[harsh pecan]

Any QC positions? I like getting paid for no work.

[lost abyss]

If I remember right that was not amongst the positions. They want a super immersed CM who lives off the comics though.

[raw owl]

https://tenor.com/view/comic-book-guy-the-simpsons-gif-5565529

[novel otter]

I wonder what this new Marvel game will be like... Professor X beating up and robbing everybody he meets??

[haughty tapir]

While I agree, there'll be lots of buggy issues with the invasion events, it could still be extremely interesting and fun. Glad to see scopley coming up with new stuff that actually sounds like a good time. Lol it also explains the power gain club they've been beating us over the head with for the last few months. Hope we get another bonus refinery before the event starts.

[lost abyss]

Or how about have refinery building do something and have it have an increased set payout of common through epic every refine pull? They want players to progress, remove the rng on something that should never have been rng

[haughty tapir]

Yeah the refinery definitely needs an overhaul.

If you look at it like an actual business, no mining operation could survive on our current roi.

[winter quarry]

We’ll punish you for creating supply and then charge you more for doing so

[lost abyss]

No mining operation could survive any sort of investigation or audit if it put the same amount of ore in one end repeatedly and came out with wildly different results each time.

[round ivy]

Looks like July 10th weekend

Prepare accordingly

Tentatively scheduled I should say

[twin karma]

Server incursion? Your completely out of ideas aren’t you?

[round ivy]

3 years is a long time to come up with new ideas 😆

[dull pagoda]

Lags back

[dull pagoda]

Server incursion I assume is to get people more accustomed to being merged

[minor bone]

That incursion thing, shields on systems 20+ will be turned off, what about Territories?

[dull pagoda]

Territory is less than 20

[pale kestrel]

can't even keep this lag at bay......

[rotund mulch]

@pseudo rune are we being compensated for all the missed armadas we've suffered with this bs? I've lost 23 armadas because if Scopely updating things while servers are up.

[cinder pebble]

The LAG IS BACK BABY

Scopely at its FINEST

[minor bone]

was it ever gone?

[cinder pebble]

most of the afternoon

[celest ermine]

No, territory is over 20

[winter quarry]

If no one is in the forest and a tree falls does it lag?

[cinder pebble]

if it is owned by scopely the answer is YES

[minor bone]

so which one is it? hahaha

[celest ermine]

I think all over 20

[main spindle]

@pseudo rune hay the game is still lagging big time in my sever

[gloomy girder]

Lagg, bleh, I can't even recall my ships

stupid Default_error_title

[tardy ether]

And they expect incursions mechanic to work with the lag we are already seeing?

[minor bone]

Servers are going on strike, creating lag, because of that Incursion non sense

[wind kindle]

Yup

[dull pagoda]

How do realtas travel in tc, but cannot get there from outside of tc since they’re blocked by lvl17 systems. The answer is tc is under lvl20

[distant scroll]

They would have to be idiots to do that. STFC brings in too much money for them to give up on it.

[dull pagoda]

No they see how the games dying so fast, they’ll squeeze it til it fails but the writing is on the wall

[tawdry kindle]

@pseudo rune , Incursion Event(s), can you do/complete dailies whilst actively invading another server? As lots of ‘rules’ in the announcement but it ain’t saying anything about those ones…?

[minor bone]

server rules will for sure be obsolete during that event

[distant scroll]

In my opinion, the game is still saveable. We are nearing the point of no return, however. A few more months of the current trends and the game will be unsaveable.

There is plenty of new content they can release. They just have to do it right.

Take the hints and stop making the same mistakes they always make.

[dull pagoda]

My theory is that this game was supposed to be a quick cash grab and scopely said oh crap, people keep playing and we have to do stuff

[distant scroll]

Well, if they're smart about it, they could change it from a cash grab to a cash cow.

[toxic sinew]

Folks obviously love the game. Seems like a playable game should be a no brainer

[rotund mulch]

<@&509691205798592532> are we getting compensated for all the armadas we are missing out on due to this lag? Also, better expect tons of people to quit because of this incursion crap

[dull pagoda]

At least incursions give new bases to raid. So many quit players there’s like 1 raid a day at best

[distant scroll]

It's not just the game. It's the community the game made that people love.

[fast drift]

I've tried to quit for 2 year and can't

[potent scarab]

this is a shirt show

[toxic sinew]

Unfortunately goes hand in hand. I would have quit long ago if it wasn't for my alliance.

[tall fiber]

Can't wait for the realization of players when they are long-shielded and the shield suddened gets "paused" when these 24hr events start and they get raided...

I better start updating my base bookmarks ;)

[strong holly]

Lol

[tall fiber]

No one tell the rest of my server please

[strong holly]

My entire server is lagging

[tall fiber]

Also .. don't come to server 24 if you get paired with it ;)

[distant scroll]

Same goes for server 09.

[potent scarab]

cant chat in alliance or move

[minor bone]

i just need a confirmation that Territories are safe or not. I know they can pop in your TC, but I need to know if Shields are ok in TCs

[distant scroll]

If only they'd do more of those Ferengi arcs. The payout was huge.

[dull pagoda]

How do realtas travel in tc, but cannot get there from outside of tc since they’re blocked by lvl17 systems. The answer is tc is under lvl20

[minor bone]

i get it, but this is no confirmation

just an assumption

[winter quarry]

Corva shows as level 40 otima level 20 so no they are 20+

[distant scroll]

How do you see the level of TC systems?

[quick bough]

Move to lvl 1 system n pol a 7 day shield. Been awhile since I took a break anywise

[green geyser]

I don't see levels on these systems.

[celest ermine]

Warp range doesn't mean level of system

[winter quarry]

It’s a trick got to a system hit mine a node then hit manage before you get on the node it shows

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917934567585873930/991896041374887946/IMG_1977.png

[fierce pollen]

@tall fiber What system are you in, Green?

[green geyser]

Gotcha, thanks.

[tall fiber]

Remme

Hmm.. will they add another chat too... GC, AC, PM.. or when I'm cross server will I be on their galaxy chat .. important questions...

[fierce pollen]

I'm presently in Asiti. A number of us were in a system off Midnight before we got Territory....

I think I suggested to Scopley that they introduce a system broadcast...

[distant scroll]

What Scopely needs to do right now is schedule filler arcs to keep us occupied while they fix problems in the background without adding anything major to the game.

[fierce pollen]

The server they paired us (041) with on previous cross-server events is a more mature server -- I don't think our server has unlocked G5 space or Ops 51 yet.

[drifting bay]

Jup a Major bs Event coming That will be totally messed up and I bet people will get stuck on the wrong server after it 🤣

And scopley touching our shields is outrageous 🤬

[distant scroll]

I'm pretty sure my server (09) would destroy nearly every other server. We've got 11 people over 100M power with our most powerful being 476M. I don't know the power levels of other servers though so I'm waiting to be proven wrong.

[glacial kernel]

Server 30. Our top is 464 mil. Our top 5 is over 200 mil. Top 27 are over 100 mil.

[spiral folio]

So, if I do not want to participate in the Incursion Event I have to relocate in a level 19 or below star system, right?

[gloomy girder]

basically yes, so you can shield

[celest ermine]

Maybe

[desert laurel]

You don't have to, but you'll probably want to. And incursion rewards are probably good enough that you'll want to participate

[spiral folio]

I know that I am no match for a big player so I would like to be able to continue to shield myself.

I have a vacation coming right up and I won't be able to stay glued to my phone.

[gloomy girder]

I'd move to a 19 or lower system and set a long term shield then'

[desert laurel]

Like ALBs, where you need at least a pt to get the rewards, score and let your servermates do the work

[austere fiber]

if the pvp range was tweaked i'd feel better about it but pretty sure i'll just be playing a different game while sitting under my shield.

[spiral folio]

Right on spot.

[drifting bay]

Won’t even get one point. Will move to a 19 below System as most of us and wait till the event is over.

[gloomy girder]

I'd move myself to a 19 system, but I conveniently have a ship stuck

[spiral folio]

I am level 38 and without a shield I have no protection against a level 45 or 50 player.

[gloomy girder]

All the more reason to move your base then

[main spindle]

Ok i went from bad lag to now the games not working lag wtf

[gloomy girder]

Yea everyone just about is having super lag

[drifting bay]

Wait until these events start 🤣🤣🤣

[rotund mulch]

@pseudo rune that's two more armadas missed because of lag

[strong kayak]

So I'm taking time away from watching NOTHING happen on my screen to complain about the lag in game... OK.. done... going back to nothing happening on my game screen

[dull estuary]

Well that should give us plenty of time to complete the daily events 🤔

[main spindle]

And y is it that when i go from stfc app to discord then go back to the game the game automatically reloads. i didn't close the app so y is it constantly reloading when after returning

[woven torrent]

The game is unplayable

[distant scroll]

Are you on mobile?

[woven torrent]

Lag has stopped all play on server 56

[strong kayak]

HEY!!!! I've got an AMAZING IDEA!!! Lets set up a massive cross server event that EVERYONE HATES and that's guaranteed to crash our servers! (pay no attention to the fact that we can't even get our usual game mechanics to function properly)

[drifting bay]

🤣👍🏻💯

[main spindle]

Yes using a android phone

[karmic vault]

This is just what we'll get to look forward to during the Lagcursion events.

Imagine trying to loot a base cross server with this lag.

[turbid chasm]

Scopely, please freeze the apex slb rankings. The lag makes it impossible for anyone to effectively participate.

[bright elk]

My ships won't even leave the station

[distant scroll]

I have an Android too. It did that months ago and still does it today.

[bold citrus]

And the hubsystems warp 120 are below lvl20 too? 😉😂

What's the scoring mechanic for Incursion? What metric defines the winner?

[lost shell]

Yes

[abstract gate]

It's an android operating system thing. Most of the time I can tab out and stfc will remain loaded. I count myself lucky. This is on a tablet though

[worldly acorn]

What's about Shield behaviour in own Territories on infinite incursion??? "During Incursions, all peace shields are suppressed in systems level 20+, and no new shields can be activated." are TC systems level 0??? xD anyone an idea???

[distant scroll]

I'd move out of territory for safety. Plenty of room in those level 1 and 2 systems.

[worldly acorn]

Would be the best and safest solution for PvE driven player for this time 😉

[distant scroll]

I'm most definitely PvP driven, but I know I can't fight the whales.

[desert laurel]

Origin systems are 20+

[worldly acorn]

i know what u mean.

[worldly acorn]

Okay, thx for the info 🙂

[visual verge]

Looking forward to the next arc, those compensation chests are going to be good, I expect at least 4 or 5 😂

[blissful burrow]

do i understand correctly, shields will be dropping, basically forcing you to PVP willy nilly?!? seriously?

[desert laurel]

In most systems, yes, but you can move to a newb system and shield

[drifting bay]

Yep. And to be fair. Blowing up a station with a lvl46 something Ship is no pvp

Even if most wanted to compete. A big gun comes in and just one shots you 😂

Great Scopley 👌🏻 what’s next? Raiding g3-g5 mats out of your station......keep up the good work in scarring away more and more players from the game.

[blissful burrow]

not only one shots you, but a whale + amalgam can likely gulp you

[drifting bay]

Yea whoever came up with that idea has either no clue or was one of the big gun content creators that only know big alliances.
But what really makes me mad is the forced shield drop 🤬

So someone buys a pack for 100$ puts up a 30 day shield and Scopley says thanks for the money and now we let someone raid you? 👍🏻

[meager spindle]

Well, the worst thing is - there’ll be plenty of EMKs…

[drifting bay]

And yea one more thing get raided while defending your territory 🤣

[leaden spoke]

And not to forget: some players life in a country they have other problems than looking 24/7 at their base 🇺🇦

[blissful burrow]

its basically forced to MOVE or forced to PVP

[abstract gate]

they will also guilt you saying you should have moved the base

[fathom shuttle]

Then just move base to a under level 20 system and bubble as usual. Not much magic involved.

[scenic cloud]

Should be fun,

[cunning radish]

So move your base

I know it’s hard but I’m sure you’ll be able to scrape a relo token for it

Somehow someway

[scenic cloud]

Grinding for relo, s now. 4 so far this morning , 2 hulls

[drifting bay]

You know there are some people that play the game and don’t actually live in it....or have discord. Or come on only every few days.
I personally don’t care for relos have a few hundred of them.
It’s simply a dumb idea of an event and only helps a certain group of people and doesn’t give a dam about the ordinary player. That’s all I say

[desert laurel]

At least initially, they're giving us a couple relocs before the event so that we can move to a safe zone before and after the incursion

[scenic cloud]

Sounds like your server needs a Purge. @drifting bay

[strange bear]

When do these start? Assume we’ll know if we’re in one?

[ripe python]

It's been nice knowing you all. Forcing players to PvP by stopping them shielding is a step too far.

[desert laurel]

After the arc part starts. They've stated we'd get notice beforehand so that we can prepare

[strange bear]

No shielding in territory right?

[desert laurel]

Origin space is 20+, so shields will be surpressed there

[strange bear]

Looks like the incursions are just a few days right?

[versed osprey]

so when does it start? today?

[scenic cloud]

No later than the 10th

[versed osprey]

you dont need to participate, just move to a system lower then lvl 20

[chrome rune]

incursion is 24h max

[ripe python]

I shouldn't have to move. Deactivating shields is a BS move.

[desert laurel]

Each incursion set is 24h max, but broken up into parts.
#🌌-galaxy-chat message

You don't have to move, you can stand your ground. At times, that is my plan

[versed osprey]

then you have to be online 24/7 no thank you😂

ill move back and forward i guess

[desert laurel]

Nah, I'll move out when I'm done messing with the invaders

[crimson barn]

But if a player has paid real money for a shield, for example if they are going on vacation, and it drops and they get raided, how is that fair?

[versed osprey]

why even pay real money for a shield🤣 you get 24h of shield just from your dailys

[crimson barn]

There are vacations longer than a few days with no access to the internet

[delicate mulch]

They have ignored this question whenever asked. Ever since the announcement...

[versed osprey]

then you are actually on antartica lol and even there is internet i believe

[delicate mulch]

Especially the unreachable players are the ones I feel worst for

[scenic cloud]

If your going on vacation, your not paying the game correctly. I meant play*

As far as internet. Star Link

[crimson barn]

Forget all that, you cannot SELL a 30 day shield for $100, and then create a feature that circumvents that shield. Whatever reason any player has to buy that is their business, and their purchase should be valid and not interfered with.

[scenic cloud]

Pfft

[viscid sinew]

Scopely must redo their entire PvP structure... it doesn't work. It will never happen, because they use all events as pack-selling incentives, so the downward spiral of players leaving because of lack of fun will continue

[worthy plaza]

fundamentally, you can't have such a big driven P2W design....and expect pvp to work

its just frankly incompatible

[viscid sinew]

Nope, it is possible

Ship power brackets, selectable targets where you choose who to attack, etc

other games manage to do this well

[worthy plaza]

you mean the same system that put a ops 28 person in the same leadership board as a ops 49 and expect them to be able to compete?

[scenic kernel]

yeah, but scopely's business plan is focused on the short term. Any alternative would give them income on the long turn. But they intend to milk as much as possible out of STFC for the next two years, and then let the game die

[viscid sinew]

No, that system is what we have today

[worthy plaza]

sorry i mean to say "the same designers that put a..."

[viscid sinew]

Look at War Dragons, heavily pvp based, where pvp is fun and relevant

[worthy plaza]

is it as p2w designed as stfc?

[viscid sinew]

Because they have a meta that is designed for PvP

Yes, it is P2W, and with packs just as expensive as in STFC, but F2P is also relevant and you can still do PvP. Yes, the big guys just smash you, but you can still find players you can attack and win against

[crimson barn]

Here's an idea, since we all know this is about having enough krill to feed the whales, Scopely can just use AI to act as smaller players for the big players to feed on, instead of creating features that drive smaller players away from the game.

[viscid sinew]

I mean, since only whales win pvp events, smaller players doesn't even show up... so while I can in principle kill many players on my server in a pvp event, they also stay away. So this Incursion thing will be the same... park in a lower than 20 system and shield up for the duration. You even need "incursion credits" to participate ... I am sure you can scrape together credits for one go during the event, but after that you must buy it from the store

Maybe some spend event that rewards incursion credits

or one that takes 10 hours of game time to complete

Two things to stay away from in this game, if you want to have a fun experience as a player that doesn't spend much, are SLBs and PvPs

Hyping these kinds of events will just drive player frustration levels up, and make even more players leave the game

[scenic cloud]

Just because You have to shield, doesn't mean you cant play the game....

[viscid sinew]

Eh, how do you expect to do dailies when you will be shot on sight?

I have to relocate my base to do dailies, to a level 43 system, that I cannot do during the event... for me, I hope it will come during my 4 week summer vacation, when I don't play anyway

[scenic cloud]

Takes less than 2 hours to do daily and sms events

[viscid sinew]

yes, typically, sometimes even less

while you have to relocate to avoid being raided, it might take longer

One problem for scopely looks to be that their planners, for events, rules and mechanics, do not play the game, or they play with free packs. The majority of the players are not really represented by actual players sitting in during the design and plan work...

[polar barn]

Can we get a old question answer round for the new event... There are lot of questions... Like the old days...

[abstract gate]

More information will be shared through IGN when it launches, but an additional Q&A by the time would be a great idea especially seeing player concern thus far @pseudo rune

[fathom shuttle]

Indeed. More info and clarifications would hopefully calm some nerves.

[rain root]

I do wonder how they'll handle bases in same locations...it says you'll stay in the same location when you cross but what if those housing nodes are already full?

[hoary badge]

feel free to pm me your coordinates while your away and I will "watch" your base for you 😉🤣

[viscid sinew]

Will post on GC 😎

Shield or share

[cunning radish]

Why do you think scopely telling us early - so ppl can move to a sub 20 system beforehand

https://tenor.com/view/magical-magic-gif-13543499

[rain root]

Guess I glossed over that part 🤣🤣🤣 thanks

[molten musk]

to my understanding

it voluntary

[crimson barn]

Unless I'm mistaken it's going to be during the next arc, so will be happening in the next 3 or 4 weeks. That's not a 30 day notice to match with the possibility of a 30 day shield.

[drifting marsh]

One of the dev's said that it might be some time around July 10 last night in the galaxy-chat channel.

[pseudo trout]

If Scopely is smart then the first incursion events will be PvE i.e. eclipse hostile damage on another server. Work up to server melting PvP.

[placid void]

I think they should focus on fixing bugs and LAG before doing something like this .... though what do I know , I'm SURE this event will go off flawlessly.... I mean it's Scopely, when have they ever had a cluster mess of an event.

[rare verge]

🤣🤣🤣☝️☝️☝️

[stone pecan]

Caut alianta de romani .pm

[scenic kernel]

??? what is the benefit of doing hostile grinding in an other server?

[pseudo trout]

Besides the obvious event SMS rewards? Im imagining there could be a scoring mechanism for “defense” to kill incursion ships and scoring points while incursion ships or “offense” grinds and has to protect grinders. Kind of like doing any grind sms/slb while at war. Incentivizes the incursion and the PvP defense.

[scenic kernel]

that is not pve anymore...

[pseudo trout]

Basically I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt (🤣😂🤣) that incursion won’t just be 24hrs of free for all pirating.

I’m not sure how your server has done in PvP events, but on 29 we usually have about 30 min of fun before it becomes a turtle fest and no one comes out to play causing a simple grind. Adding a one sided grind + incentive to defend could be fun.

[scenic kernel]

that is why they disable shield in most of the galaxy I suppose 😅

[pseudo trout]

Yeah, maybe I’m just hopeful. Sorry, forgot where I was.

Most players have a ship that can defeat a Stella in PvP, so if defenders are harassing grinding Stellas I think it could be fun.

[scenic kernel]

I have the other attitude with scopely, expect the worse, and get surprised sometimes 😅 I expect this feature to be a total disaster with a free for all on miners, and 90% of the player base crying and screaming over it. But maybe future iterations will be better, that feature has a lot of potential.

[pseudo trout]

Territory had a lot of potential too but the incentive to diplo away most everything was strong on our server. And they never really fixed the lag there. Just changed the nature of those events so there were fewer ships.

[scenic kernel]

problem with territory is that the pvp hierarchy is pretty static, both between players and alliances, so to get action in territory, you either need a change in the hierarchy (merge between alliances...) or a big alliance deciding to move in the territory. But those events are rare, maybe if they ever managed to randomize the services?

[pseudo trout]

I have no clue how to fix territories. I liked the early days when there weren’t any agreements and everything was new. I would just run laps picking up opc. Now it’s just where all the rss heavy bases hang out and people mine iso all day.

[sharp cairn]

@pseudo rune Do we get a run of Crucible of War this month? Some count on it for rare directive sourcing

[ornate geyser]

Don’t think it’s possible to fix territory without fixing level banding.

[white coral]

Waiting for server incursion and your account gets lost in the transfer and you have to start over

[scenic kernel]

me too 🤣 not gonna do transfer until other have tested the feature

[white coral]

Ill jump into the void

[distant scroll]

I still run laps. Plenty of OPC still there in my server. I'd assume the same for yours.

[distant dawn]

@pseudo rune for the Incursions, will they take place on a different day each time? Since the territory systems are lvl 20+, if they only happen for example on every Saturday it would put some alliances at a huge disadvantage when it comes to territory defence, as we are unable to reschedule the takeovers and some alliances will have to defend the territories during active incursions. It would be nice if it would not be always the same people enduring this.

[abstract gate]

If that’s the case there’s a Tuesday free

[silver pike]

They will probably lay it out so it runs on Tuesday. This might not be done at launch but it’s probably something that would make sense to be done.

[distant dawn]

I do hope so, but someone hinted at 9th being the day of the first Incursion, which falls on Saturday. I understand that on weekend it does not interfere with work for many people, but they may not have taken the territory defences into account and plan it on the same day always through the arc, so I want to know for sure.

[silver pike]

I think they will experiment with it to start but probably have a fixed date for it eventually

[distant dawn]

As long as it is fixed to Tuesday, it would fit in nicely after mining event 😄

[silver pike]

It would make sense. I think a lot of people are concerned it will affect TC and given Tuesday is the only day off it makes sense to do it then

[lilac mica]

Why take sheilds away from us? Alot more people would be willing to participate with them. Real life does come first. I think this is gonna be disastrous for many

[fathom shuttle]

You skipped the bit where shields still do work in a ton of systems....

[lilac mica]

Yeah 19 and below. They'll fill up fast

[fathom shuttle]

There is more of those than any other systems

Enough space for thousands of players

[pseudo trout]

Nope, Non Aggression Territory Agreement and all that high brain diplo action is big on s29

[mental tulip]

Drop tags and opt out. 🤣

[queen vale]

stupid Eventidea ever with this not existing pvp System 🙈

[mental tulip]

Hasn’t even happened yet and you’re already complaining. 🤣

At least this place is predictable.

[bitter snow]

Can't blame anyone else for silly roe except for the players willing to play along 😂

[north vessel]

@pseudo rune any specifics on when or duration of bonus refinery you can share?

[pale kestrel]

because it is being forced upon us and not even been something that was asked for nor discussed with the players.

and scopely doesn't have the best track record of thinking about all the ramifications

[mental tulip]

It's the next logical direction for the game to take. Cross-server events help address the staleness of playing with the same players forever.

As for how, yeah, it's gonna fail the first day. Horribly. But I think after they do it a few times it could be good.

[neat barn]

at best, it's a band-aid

[pseudo trout]

To be fair, I’m a very low spender (bp only) and I’ve been able to progress pretty far in space FarmVille because of my alliances diplo and event placing. So I can’t really complain.

[mental tulip]

There's a whole second announcement on how they're trying to fix the other stuff. The two they picked first are very good ones.

[wide umbra]

what happens when some has the same name during invasions ?

[abstract gate]

Merged into one account .. unity achieved !!🤣

[mental tulip]

Great. More Envoy BPs.

[scenic kernel]

names are unique across servers

(player names)

[neon badge]

I'm gonna claim asylum on the new server

[carmine lily]

Please please please do the server invasion event as a mining leaderboard on latinum Monday! That would be the greatest troll ever!

[quiet cloud]

Will a token be needed to return? Silly, I know, but scopley.

[crystal stream]

It is unacceptable that you will make TC bubble free during incursion. Any TC takeover during that time has a huge disadvantage. The bigs already control TC and anyone they want to take out is screwed if they can't bubble. They will just raid them for the entire time. It is unacceptable.

[cunning radish]

Well it’s coming

TC was never meant to be happy safe zone

[wicked arrow]

They could...uhhh port out

[indigo perch]

While i like the idea of incursions, i have too much to lose with an unbubbled base. The event cannot possibly reward more than i am risking, so i have no choice but to opt out.

[cunning radish]

and that's fine

that's what they made the sub 19 areas for

[west siren]

This incursion idea only benefits whales and the lower people get the shaft as usual. To allow token hits is BS

[cunning radish]

there's no token hits

why would you think that

[west siren]

This is what was posted on our AC

So there are no token or miner hits in territory other than OPC?

[cyan finch]

I think all server will follow their own roe for incursion duration

And it's just one day so... I don't think u have to worry too much about miners... Just recall go to sub 19 n shiled n sleep

[west siren]

ok i will pass it along

[abstract gate]

I think it will be chaos and no roe

Should make for interesting times should the servers ever merge

[drifting marsh]

Or just consider the other server all kos and assume they are doing the same and react accordingly

[cyan finch]

Yes... Maybe... Depends on what kind of event is there... If not pvp in any 20+ system then it's kumbaya

No shield in 20+ make me think it will be about rss raid

So if server wanna win they will mainly focus on that

[abstract gate]

Yeah I imagine at least one of the events will be rss raided

From what I remember there will be 4 events in a 24 hour period

[cyan finch]

Ci... So people who are gonna complain can just shield for a day n chill out in 19 sys

[abstract gate]

Yeah

Unless they popped a 30d or 7d shield and went on vacation

Spend 20 dolla on 30d shield, get wrecked anyway🤣

[tawdry kindle]

Invading one another’s server is quite likely gonna be about killing stuffs rather then mining no? So yes, think it’s pretty safe to say that any kind of RoE gonna be completely out the doors during those kind of events…🙂

[abstract gate]

Hopefully. If will be fun to watch the galaxy burn

[modest lichen]

I'm beyond excited for Incursions!!! So long as there is no lag, it's going to be awesome!!

Hunter Killer is my favorite event they have run in a long time. I like to burn pixels.

ROE going to be totally ignored. Lol.

[abstract gate]

Yeah I'm just a minnow but I will enjoy squishing surveys

[modest lichen]

Invading server cannot know the ROE of the server being Invaded. It's not a realistic expectation.

[abstract gate]

Get all that freq modulator farming rage out

It will be interesting to see how they monetize it. My guess is first conduit is free, and possibly gotta pay for subsequent conduits if they run the event more than once per bp. Just a guess though

[modest lichen]

Not what was said. You get token for each scheduled trip.

[abstract gate]

They said you will get relocation tokens

2 for every event, to move to 19 and back if you want

You need a conduit to move to the other server

[white coral]

Will be included in vault of lat

[modest lichen]

🤣

You get 1 token to move to other server. DJz clarified. For each 6 hr block. They are assuming you come back to defend. At the end of 24hr event, you are returned by Scopley.

Maybe stay and cause some havoc? Raiding should be very nice.

[white coral]

Ior u transit to new server, game crashes ,you cant log back in and you get raided

[ornate geyser]

People on my server talk with people on the server we XLB with…absolutely servers will know each other’s ROE.

They won’t follow it, lol….but they’ll know it.

[crystal stream]

It is not about TC being a safe spot, it is about a TC defense when you can not shield and a single whale can roll through and one shot every single base, with max ships, and not even be below half health...and do it again and again and again.

An alliance can not defend a TC against a single player, much less others.

[ornate geyser]

Wait….the Incursion event has to be on the one day a week where there are no TC defences…anything else would be beyond stupid.

[cunning radish]

Incursion has nothing to do with that. That could always happen.

If you’re angry about people spending to be stronger than everyone, that’s fine. But that has nothing to do with incursion event itself per se.

[abstract gate]

That won’t be the case. They’re spreading it over multiple days (e.g. apac day 1, eu day 2, us day 3) to reduce server lag. Part of that will be during takeovers

[main spindle]

Could we stop getting so many spend events i just wasted all my gas + much more just so i could finally unlock Harrison but these spend events are killing my ENTs progress in upgrades to tier

[vital drum]

Actually an incursion during a takeover might well prove problematic. I think it's a legitimate concern.

[abstract gate]

Ultra spend event when

[abstract gate]

It is a legitimate concern and I agree. Just sharing that’s not how they implemented it that way this time around and why

[vital drum]

It will be hilarious if you invade another server just to mine their crystal or something. Or spam hostiles in their systems. I hope I get the chance to do some missions while I am over there lol

Or steal their Armadas hahahaha

[tardy ether]

The game forces you to make choices and implement a progression strategy. I like that it’s exceedingly difficult to engage with the entire game content at all times. How & what I choose to upgrade compared to my opponents is where the strategy comes into play.

[rare verge]

So how many players are gonna quit the game if they got emptied??

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/who-cares-gif-22068249

[rare verge]

@cunning radish time will tell

[cunning radish]

ppl complain that ppl are exiting the game every month

based on 'i hate this feature'

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-love-lucy-okay-idk-gif-16447471

[rare verge]

I know if I lost my rss cos Scopely killed my shield ide be gone the rss are the only thing that’s keeping me here

[cunning radish]

happens to everyone

rss is easy to get back

not really that big of a deal

[rare verge]

It would be on the principle if they went cos I forgot to shield fair enough if I’m at work and my shield is removed then **** Scopely

[abstract gate]

on their eyes the blame will still be on you because you dared to put the base in a 20+ system

[dawn owl]

would be the case if they called him and explicitly told him that was going to happen unless he moved to a 19 level system.

[rare verge]

@abstract gate @ that point it won’t matter

It’s probably happening cos the whales can’t raid anyone boohoo 🥲🥲🥲🤣🤣🤣

[bitter snow]

20? You mean 90 surely 😂

[mystic stream]

Is it correct that the Incursion event lasts for 24hrs with 4 rounds of 6hrs. With one server against the other then switch every 6hr?

[abstract gate]

Jesus I did not realize the 30d shield was in the 99 dolla pack

Guess you gotta put that in the vacation budget

[sour lotus]

Yeah exactly, attack 6h, defense 6h, ..

[tawdry minnow]

Yep , seems scopely think we don’t have a real life to attent to like : a family and maybe a job ! 🙈

[tawdry minnow]

The fact that scopely only comes with a short announcement for this event instead of giving us the full picture seems the are not ready themselves for all this yet … I don’t trust them anymore 🤣

This wil be bugged , it feels bugged …. After last arc they better get it 100% right

[wintry tundra]

Scopely releasing info beforehand is to get those that don’t want to participate prepared. Most of the new content gets released after maintenance started.

[plain marlin]

Hi all, sorry if I have missed the info I am about to ask for, but only just catching up now. Has Scopely confirmed 1) when Infinite Incursions is starting and 2) what the shield policy is in Terriory - a number of my members are asking if Terriory is going to be classed as +20 or -20? Thanks, Paul (S122)

[abstract gate]

territories are 20+

[silver pike]

First one will start next arc around 9/10 July. Territories are level 20

[plain marlin]

Thats great, thanks for confirming @silver pike and @abstract gate

[tawdry minnow]

I know bin playing since day one 😜, it’s just that they seem to make this a big thing and it feels like there not sure either

[spiral folio]

And pray that Scopely didn't introduce new bugs with this event and the shields would work normally in level 19 or below systems.

[wintry tundra]

With the increased influx of RSS into the game via events getting drained is not the end of the world. And if it is against what scopely implemented (shield failure in lvl 19- while having all ships docked) make a screenshot before and contact CS. They will probably refund you the RSS.

[fathom tide]

A lot of crying over something that hasnt happened

[tawdry minnow]

We all know what’s gonna happen … that’s why 🤣

[fathom tide]

Maybe but all i see is i hope this and i hope that, looks like not everyone is certain and they just got this channel confused, its event-chat not make a wish foundation chat

[spiral folio]

I do not like this event in this format because I don't think Scopely thought it thoroughly. If I'm on the server that gets invaded Scopely should not mess with my base shields no matter where my base is located. It should be a conscious choice of mine if I want to get involved in this event or not. It does not matter if Scopely sends notifications 2 days ahead or 10 days ahead. If I'm defending please Scopely don't touch my shield. I don't like that I have to move to another system. Why should I do that. I'm not the invader here.
And what about PvP level brackets? What 3* ships could a level 38 player like myself match to 4* ships?

[tawdry minnow]

We all wish it wasn’t coming in bugs , we all know it wil ( beter ? )

[mystic stream]

Does anyone know what type of events are going to be used to score points during the incursion event?

[spiral folio]

I think it's too soon to ask that.

[mystic stream]

Possibly right but made me curious if anyone knew as was able to find out the event is 24hrs long with 4x 6hr segments

[echo dune]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-paul-verhoeven-robert-heinlein-want-to-live-forever-come-on-gif-23642437

Prepare for bugs

[tawdry minnow]

Dj sad that in his video form last night

[mystic stream]

Cracking film

[mystic stream]

Yes I know so did revD aswell

[spiral folio]

Yes please, if possible. 😁

[echo dune]

Check event store 😉

If this goes off without a technical hitch … then Scopely I will eat humble pie. I like new ways of playing this game. Innovation side is fine. The technical expertise to make enjoyable is usually what we all hate. So heads up just fuels apprehension.

[mystic stream]

I couldn’t agree more here

[bitter snow]

anyone want to bet that 'defending' = mining something and shooting players, and 'attacking' = shooting players and hostiles?

[mystic stream]

Seems feesable give the history of X server events

[echo dune]

I remember the ghost town when it was that pvp everything event on. You only scored if went around killing idle ships. Such fun …

[bitter snow]

There's only so many variations of activity an event can follow 😂

[mystic stream]

True point

[echo dune]

I do worry about this six hours this then six hours that. If two days of incursions one day defending other day attacking sounds good to me during arc.

But yep see how it plays

[bitter snow]

I'll be asleep for at least one of those segments 😂

[echo dune]

Exactly

[mystic stream]

Same I’ll be sleeping or working during most of it 😅😓

[echo dune]

Remember the burst event? Great for needing a pee at 3am … two bursts going on then.

Just kind of hoping we aren’t the first region being tested …

[halcyon cloak]

There are no IGN 👀

[thorny pawn]

Seems like I'm not the only one wondering what this message was supposed to be. lol.

[echo dune]

FAKE NEWS

[halcyon cloak]

Cloaked News

[crimson barn]

What's the chances this incursion event is a one time thing? I remember scopely saying that territory buffs would be moving around so that territory would have more participation, they moved the 3* buffs once, and then never again.

[echo dune]

If Barot’s officer ability ever works I will buy a £100 pack even if I have to go down the docks Friday night to pay for it with high heels and fishnet stockings on.

If not hull damaging opponent while mining, at least change to something useful … three years and counting.

[echo dune]

I’m guessing that got huge pushback because of time commitments to defend and organise. Being able to do an event in 24 hours is what we want not fixed times be on for 45 mins in case ships fly in …

One reason six hour events fill me with meh.

You working those six hours or sleeping … tough chicken.

[bitter snow]

I got it too... I think they sent it to everyone rather than just special spenders 😂

[cyan finch]

If it happens I'll simply dumb all my rss to alliance lvl

[polar belfry]

Just make sure broke b4 the start

[cyan finch]

😂😂

[icy sedge]

Nothing 😕

[echo dune]

Bev TNG Crew shards please Scopely. Send the bill to my dedicated supplier. No questions asked.

[scenic cloud]

That moment after you bought the 2 rom packs available. ..... and you realize you need 1 more shard. To promote rom.........

[scenic kernel]

didn't happen to me

[cunning radish]

What’s that got to do with anything

His point is that it happened to him

🫠

[scenic kernel]

What's that got to do with anything
My point is that it didn't happened to me

[echo dune]

That’s why I don’t watch the news. Didn’t happen to me.

[cunning radish]

🤣

🤦‍♂️

[cunning radish]

You tried

https://tenor.com/view/clap-slowclap-notimpressed-gif-8195521

[scenic kernel]

and you finally managed to paste a gif, congratulations

[cunning radish]

https://tenor.com/view/jennifer-lawrence-j-law-yeah-okay-yeah-sure-whatever-gif-9232961

I managed it again

https://tenor.com/view/talented-unique-lady-gaga-wow-gif-17276350

[tawdry kindle]

They said that the 10min autoshields would only be temporarily too🤷🏼‍♀️🤪
(the ‘original’ autoshield is 5min)

[winged tulip]

<@&509691205798592532> any idea what this is about?

accidental whale notification sent to normals or something?

[ripe jungle]

I didn’t get one 😰

[tight otter]

dedicated specialist?

[bitter snow]

They probably missed a couple of 0s on the spend total 😂

[bitter snow]

Super whales apparently get their own contacts on scopely CS for stuff

[tight otter]

that's... appalling

[bitter snow]

no more or less than high rollers getting special service from casinos

[desert laurel]

You mean you didn't claim your gift yet? oh man, it was soooo good

[tight otter]

as much as I've ever complained about P2W before, that is just so far beyond....

[scenic kernel]

it is appalling that your top customers get special treatment?

[scenic kernel]

1 shard of bev? 🤣 sorry 2 for the loyal spenders

[desert laurel]

I'm practically ops 60 now with the stuff inside, jeez!

[tight otter]

a dedicated specialist in a competitive game? yeah that's appalling just take that p2w advantage one step higher

[winged tulip]

I asked for fixed TC lag - they blocked me 😦

[bitter snow]

if you're competing against spenders, you're doing it wrong

Just assume they're in the premier league and you're a saturday player

[bitter snow]

It's not like they're getting insider information on where player's bases are, it's more just to keep them happy and playing and spending as fast as they can.

Exactly like all the bonuses from a casino, like free food/drinks, suite, etc... keep people there and engaged

[tight otter]

It's one thing to not compete, it's another to be told you're getting worse support because you didn't spend enough it already feels like tickets get sent to the void when you submit them

[bitter snow]

Funny that, if you pay for support with Microsoft or AWS or the like, you get a better level of service than those who don't 😂

And if you spend enough, you get dedicated people who will answer within X rings of the phone, any time of day or night

[cunning radish]

The world doesn’t owe you anything

People still haven’t learnt that apparently

🤣

[wide umbra]

what happened to being able to click the event progress bar that pops up when you do something some times i have no idea what im winning xD

[tight otter]

who said anyone was owed anything? just not being kicked in the teeth once in a while while would be nice XD

[cunning radish]

What by your analogy is scopely doing

That’s kicking you?

As it pertains them giving bonuses to high paying people ?

I hope they lather it real good

MmMmmMm

[tight otter]

sounds about right XD

[vital drum]

My dedicated specialist changes name regularly, takes at least 2 days to answer a message, and usually tells me I'm wrong and/or they can't do anything about it.

They have also never given me a free chest, what's up with that?

[sharp cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/caddyshack-ted-knight-judge-smails-smails-80s-gif-12752430

[bronze hull]

There were a lot more people getting annoyed by accidentally clicking it and getting taken away from what they were doing than people who really liked being able to quickly check on events - so banners are no longer clickable.

[vital drum]

Which is awesome I hated the damn things. They still obscure the screen somewhat but they are much better now

[quiet cloud]

Too much trouble to add a toggle. sigh.

[neat barn]

More like some complained but a large group like myself didn't see the need for the change and miss clicking the events or armada popups - unfortunately the vocal minority won this one

You don't normally hear someone on here complain for something not to change - probably a big part of it as well

[silent cedar]

of all the things to complain about thats what got 'fixed'? how about the random 'go' button for random missions, or the refit button being so close to swap ship, those get in my way constantly

[full heron]

What will be the shielding behavior in territories in the Incursion event?

[silver pike]

They are level 20 so they will be suppressed

[torpid shale]

Territory shields should be left alone, the whole point of territory is partial safety except for takeovers, along with particles, and improved mining. if they auto remove shields there, it will not be overly popular 🤷🏻‍♂️ just my opinion.

[silver pike]

You still have your partial protection

Difference is your unshielded

Also depending on server TC isn’t really a safe space

[drifting marsh]

Not since the amalgam came out.

[silver pike]

Long before that

[drifting marsh]

That's when it kicked up for us. It made the warp raid worth the effort, before that the 1 or 2 loads you could slip in and get weren't worth the effort of getting past whoever was online.

[scenic cloud]

Biggest amalgam load taken. 2.5 b. Have a ss. What's yours

[wintry cypress]

Not mine personally, but I've seen a 200b screenshot here 🙈

[scenic cloud]

Wow

[torpid shale]

Territory raiding is restrictive due to travel times, easier to defend, and things like that, but if you leave no shield your asking for it. My complaint is this event removes shields whether or not, why not give people a gold shield like at maintenance, if they want to do event, drop shield and go for it, if not then they are not being forced into it against their wishes. Not all players are pvp warriors but many of them still pay scopely wages, they should receive the same loyalty as the rest of us thats all im saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

[alpine portal]

But how are whales supposed to get the small and medium-sized ones empty?
Then it would be fair, and no more whales benefit event?

I don't understand the sense of the gameplay anymore.
Raiding is an essential part of the game, and shielding its counterpart.
Taking away the shield as a one-sided action, and that in combination that it is already unbalanced
that a 46. can attack with a valdore a 29er. How is he supposed to defend himself?
I think, this is just another whales-benefit event.
Or did I miss something?

[rich inlet]

Move to a level 1-19 ops system and put up a 1 day shield and you are protected. It is as simple as that.

[desert laurel]

They're suppressing shields in some systems during the incursion, you can regain the ability to shield in a lower level system (19 and lower) if you want to avoid the pvp whales.

[drifting marsh]

While it is as simple as that, it doesn't really address the logical imbalance of the pvp system that this event is poking at peoples feelings about.

[zenith oriole]

And to hell with the casual/occasional players who don't get the info in time. They don't matter. Let the sharks empty them.

And you wonder why this game is dying.

My alliance comprises pvp and non-pvp players, but all of us can see the flaws here.

[abstract gate]

Possible issue is way broader than just an empty base but yeah generally agreed

[zenith oriole]

True

[drifting marsh]

I'm trying to make sure the word gets out on my server. I hope we all are.

[zenith oriole]

We are too. You know however hard we try though, some will not get the message.

[abstract gate]

I personally haven’t decided how to broach / approach this yet

Plenty in my alliance are too casual for a “sometime in the future” warning

Might have to go for pms like a day in advance

[drifting marsh]

I know. but, at this point they got no one to blame but themselves for not paying any bloody attention.

And that reminds me, I have to go kick some people for ignoring my PMs about their ROE violations.

[abstract gate]

Newer server then?

Have fun 😂

[zenith oriole]

A healthy game nourishes its player base regardless of level of engagement. A game whose developers care about it enduring seeks to build trust in its player base, regardless of level, or spending potential - not design in new mechanics which actively break trust, and create confusion and a sense of loss.

[alpine portal]

I know, but what is the sence of this gameplay, to get attacked, without the ability to defensive?
It's like a tennis match at wimbledon, but only last year's winner is allowed to play with rackets. 😂

[bleak idol]

During incursion the token space will not be safe as server roe will not apply to another one

[desert laurel]

Oh you want to fight back. I don't think a 29 is capable of doing enough damage to a determined 46 player. At best you could cause more economic damage than you were worth.

We'll have to see the nature of what these events are before we can tell if you are too disadvantaged to defend against them

[zenith oriole]

I don't understand what you just said.

[desert laurel]

A realta wars event will favor higher ops, but doesn't necessarily mean lower ops can't be competitive.

[zenith oriole]

Okay

[desert laurel]

The incursion concept is a team vs team effort. And the events they run will determine the value of a smaller ops player

[tame timber]

I can't wait for this event so I can see my strength n loot more rss to grow

[zenith oriole]

But overall it's still forcing non-pvp players into a one-size-fits-all pvp arena where many will not be prepared to defend themselves.

[drifting marsh]

I just have very low expectations from any pvp event in this game.

[tame timber]

You can go to under 20 galaxy n be shielded , bad part is yes mining is going be difficult

There alot alliance in all server that goes through kos war for weeks and learn how to live it through

It gives the pvp players a chance to play there game as test out there war skill n entertainment for 24 hours

[zenith oriole]

It feels very much as if the logic at Scopely HQ is this: pvp players are valuable, therefore force as many players into conflict as possible to increase revenue. Casual/non-pvp players be damned - if they won't fight, they'll be fed upon by sharks.

Any true gamer would find this ethos repugnant.

[wide umbra]

how long are incursions going to last?

[neat barn]

pvp in this game doesn't require skill, i would probably participate if there was any skill involved instead of the cash advantage

[somber vault]

I bought pack. put 7 say shild and you gona steal all becouse of my homebase. I don't have relocation tokens

[desert laurel]

There is skill involved in pvp, crews matter. It's just that $ can create an overwhelming ship advantage if both are skilled

[tame timber]

They will be giving out relocation tokens n you get 1 relocation a day through your alliance store

[drifting marsh]

They have yet to come up with a pvp event or mechanism that requires skill.

[tame timber]

@drifting marsh they did 2 months ago with discovery n territory war in that bps event

[desert laurel]

Looks like 24h, in 4x blocks of 6h each

[wide umbra]

lame

i want enough time to take there TC's

[desert laurel]

There is enough time for you to participate during takeovers on some days

[tame timber]

Anyone that had their own server kos has learn about pvp research n crew to battle

[desert laurel]

You won't be allowed to take their territory though

[tame timber]

Nope but you can hurt it

[drifting marsh]

ehhhh, maybe barely. Even at that though there isn't a lot of skill or strategy involved.

[wide umbra]

is that a yet?

maybe 😛

[desert laurel]

No, I've seen no suggestion that that is planned

[tame timber]

If anyone played Game or wars or other pvp wargames, they done it there for years server wars

[drifting marsh]

I will admit that I did enjoy the disco pvp (and prior stella pvp) events because they do set a cap on the power differences. I'm looking forward to the next one now that I have harrison too.

[tame timber]

It is bad because some servers had big kos war alliance games n other didn't so it will be a big learning curve n scary feeling

[ornate geyser]

That didn’t require any skill, lol.

[drifting bay]

At least one content creator came out and called it by its name the event is peeep
don’t touch the frickn shields
I for my part will stay offline during these events since I’m absolutely not supporting Scopley on this. 😤

[ornate geyser]

This only applies to the other server, though, right? Alliances on their home server can still try for takeovers during Incursion? It’s functionally impossible to defend territory from sub-20 systems…this could get interesting…

[tame timber]

There is a few crew that are only pvp skills n there some research

[desert laurel]

There's much more skill involved during multi-ship combat, like during takeovers. Being able to control lots of ships effectively can make or break a battle

[wide umbra]

i feel like if i do really well raiding the other server then jump back and shield up in lvl 19 system im going to lose my my condo in Malibu and not be able to jump back when the event is over

[tame timber]

We done those practices in real in our servers as how to defend territory with big players attack us

[desert laurel]

Invaders cannot take a territory on the attacked server. The other normal rules would apply for people on their home server

[alpine portal]

Anyone who can be attacked, wants to be able to defend themselves, right?
This is already a weak point in the game.

It seems Scopely thinks the little ones like to donate their resources to the whales.
But this is not the case. People want fair pvp where you have an equal chance.
And as long as this is not the case, pvp will not establish itself.

Look, in the game of golf there is a handicap to compensate the difference between strong and weak players.
Then they can make a fair match between eachother.
But a duel, one has a winchester, the other a handkerchief, that's no really fun for the second one.

[alpine portal]

You will tell me, that with the right crew, i have a chance agains a 46?
Do we play a different game?

[somber vault]

this is just feeding whales. normal players are not important

[neat plover]

what about shields in territory? It didn't say anything about that

[brave chasm]

Origin space is lvl 20 I believe

[south arrow]

Whales don’t need to raid

[brave chasm]

My biggest concern is this whole pairing of servers, each time for XSLB we got paired with an older server so barely any of us finished top 20

[desert laurel]

This is a game with rpg elements and a p2w function, it's literally designed to not be fair like that golf game you've suggested.

[brave chasm]

It’ll be a blood bath if that’s the same

[somber vault]

Well this is a start. in 3 months they gona start randomly dropping our shilds as per popular request

[desert laurel]

Do you have a chance to beat him in one fight? almost certainly not. But you could harm him enough that he chooses to put away his Valdore.

[ashen wharf]

you can lose hundreds of thousands of resources doing nothing to him

[drifting bay]

No shields in territory. Intruders might be even stationed in your territory as they have the same on their server 🤣

[ashen wharf]

Kinda logic is telling someone to waste their time hitting someone "haha i did 1% damage I amstrong"

oh wait now that i think about it they probably wont even have it be damage based

itll be kills only

[zenith oriole]

But that's the philosophy that underpins the whole business model right? Victimise the smaller/non-spending players to feed the whales, while also incentivising those smaller players to start spending to grow faster so they can defend themselves. It's a transparently cynical profiteering model, which weaponises fear to drive spending and convert low spenders into higher ones. The bad taste of that unpleasant truth permeates the game. It's a shame because they could remodel their approach to be more inclusive and monetise players via trust rather than fear, rework the pack pricing structure, reward cooperation rather than conflict, and end up with something sustainable with a much healthier, loyal player base... but all this seems to elude them.

[somber vault]

new minners are 20 mil+. whales gona have fun with anyone not shielded and that's evryone. what pvp we talk about it's just created for evryone below ops 50 to be emptied by big guys

[ashen wharf]

cant level 60's hit 35 levels down

[drifting marsh]

Something like that, yes

[wide umbra]

i mean its not hard to get resources, i dont see what the big deal is

[hexed kettle]

Thats like changing your diplomatic approach after you’ve nuked five of their cities. Possible in theory, but gl with that 😆. They made their choices and aren’t going to change now.

I agree with you though. There is definitely a stfc with a healthier business model for both the company and the players that also makes a lot of money.

[pseudo ibex]

I wonder who ask for this incursion event? The 🐳 ?

[zenith oriole]

Those big gun focus groups carry a disproportionately large amount of weight. If the top spending 1% say they want an event where everyone's shields drop, you know that's what we'll get.

I'm not a whale BTW, it's just my name. 😂

[desert laurel]

It's going to be a team v team effort, the idea of getting smushed while fighting off only 46s as a 29 isn't how it'll go. There'll be plenty of people your size in the incursion, and you could plant your base in a system with working shields while your ships are out going after those more evenly matched targets.

[pseudo ibex]

They seem to put a lot of time and money into something most players don’t want and avoid

[torpid shale]

Problem is you hit one and your shield is gone. How many kills/shields you want to use up? Trust me, there will be hunters looking for the dropped shields everywhere 😉

[zenith oriole]

And it saddens me this isn't that game. This one feels like it's accelerating toward a cliff edge and everyone knows it and they're just grabbing as much cash as they can before it implodes. I wish they'd have a fundamental rethink of their model to make it truly inclusive, with a long term vision supported by a proper loyal community.

[hexed kettle]

If all they focused on constantly was pvp events, I’d agree @pseudo ibex But there are players who enjoy pvp, and having an event or two that focuses on pvp is ok. There are plenty of pve events.

[zenith oriole]

I enjoy pvp events occasionally. But I don't want it forced on my alliance members who don't want to play that way.

Dropping peace shields is just outrageous.

[hexed kettle]

I’m obviously not there and can’t know for sure, but it not only feels like this, but it feels like they’ve lost a significant amount of technical and development personnel as well, and are scrambling with new employees to try and meet their top spender’s needs/wants.

So that long term planning feels very, very far away from a realistic reality. And that is unfortunate.

[dire quail]

But you can opt our by going sub 20... no one is forcing this

[zenith oriole]

But some players won't get that info.

[hexed kettle]

Yes, i think this whole event needs to be easily skippable by those who don’t want to participate in it (just like every other event). Dropping peace shields is a crazy, poorly thought out mechanic for sure.

[ashen wharf]

Some people don't want to do that there are key spots to live in

[pseudo ibex]

It’s feel like being force upon us having to change our ways

[ornate geyser]

It’s a clear signal where the game is headed. Shields were sacrosanct - now they’re not.

[ashen wharf]

and i didnt ask to be forced to move my base

[hexed kettle]

We have casual members in my alliance who go mia for a few days, dont check this discord, etc. there WILL be people who miss the info on this and get vaulted. And that is terrible.

[ashen wharf]

if it was pve invading and i get rep from it i would easily agree to it

Not some level 49+ hitting my base in one shot

[real dragon]

any word on when it will begin or how long it will last

[ashen wharf]

9th

[dire quail]

We have already known about this 3 days, it's still likely not happening until next week earliest... if you have members of your alliance not in contact for around a week, your alliance needs a shake

[real dragon]

thanks

[zenith oriole]

Okay, what about Ukraine?

They put peace shields up when the war started. You saying someone who's missed this info because they've just had to flee their house being bombed shouldn't have some protection?

[dire quail]

OK so we all need to stop progressing and developing until putin gets his head from his arse....

[ashen wharf]

money > ukraine

[hexed kettle]

Nah. We’re 1st or 2nd in every alb on our server. We are at 74/78 filled, and are 1st in power. We still have casuals who can easily be caught unaware if irl stuff has them mia a bit before these events.

[ashen wharf]

From scopelys prospective

[zenith oriole]

Extreme example I know, but real life gets in the way. Players should not be victimised because they only log in now and then.

[dire quail]

Every eve t they miss victimised them

[zenith oriole]

The game should be welcoming for all regardless of level, spending, or hours played.

[hexed kettle]

Peace shields are what makes this game playable as a casual. Other games that punished time away from game too much turned casuals off, and without casuals the game eventually dies. Find a way to do a cool (skippable) pvp event without touching the thing that lets casuals still play.

[ashen wharf]

easiest way is to just make a pvp server

And have the tokens send those people there

[hexed kettle]

My first thought too

[mental tulip]

I worry about players who put up a 7/30 day and then took a break.

[ashen wharf]

but they want people to cause drama

[zenith oriole]

Scopely you've seriously misjudged this one. Dropping peace shields is unacceptable. I dunno what tiny percentage of the rich whale player base you're listening to, but try surveying the rest of us and see how popular this is.

[warm quest]

If you've just had to flee your home because of a war....I think a video game is going to be off the bottom of your worry list.

[zenith oriole]

Sure, but the point is it's unjust.

[abstract gate]

Spend 99 dolla, get raided anyway. That would be wild

[zenith oriole]

Games must be fair or everything breaks down.

[hexed kettle]

I play a fun 3rd person pvp shooter that is tons of fun. Everyone was clamouring for a ranked mode to boost competitive play. We finally got it, and the mode died out after a couple weeks, because most people failed to realize a fundamental truth: there’s only room for a few top players, and you probably aren’t one of them.

Stfc pvp does nothing to change the fact that most pvp where a whole server can be invited will be mostly enjoyed by the top few who can win. Everyone else will enjoy it much, much less.

Finding a format where everyone can enjoy pvp is not an easy task.

[zenith oriole]

True, but this is about as far from it as you could get.

[warm quest]

Are you going to demand that the Russian players also get shields due to the war too?

[mental tulip]

Looking at it another way: finally the whales are shooting at someone else and are all (technically) on my side as we defend the server as a whole (for points).

[zenith oriole]

You're missing my point. I'm saying people have real lives, and if they have to shield up for whatever reason to be away from the game for a few days, that should be sacrosanct.

[hexed kettle]

Sure. And i dont even begrudge them their pvp events. I mostly skip them as i definitely can’t hang with them. This particular event just has a big flaw, in that some who wont be there might get vaulted. Thats kinda awful.

[warm quest]

Ok so move to a lvl1 system and shield problem solved.

[somber vault]

and if your whales know you have good stash they gona come when your shield drops 😁

[ashen wharf]

you arent listening

[mental tulip]

"Just contact customer support..." 🤣

[zenith oriole]

If you've been able to receive that info.

[ashen wharf]

if someone has a 7 day shield up on vacation and dont know or even care because they know they shielded

Thats on scopely

the shield says it will work for 7 days

[hexed kettle]

I think pvp needs weekly arena type events where you port your ship into a competitive cross-server system and let people compete in brackets. Like WoW arenas and battlegrounds.

[ashen wharf]

Taking that off for some event is dumb

[south arrow]

I don’t understand all the complaining about shields when all we have to do is move to a lower system.

[versed osprey]

if they dont know, then they lived under a rock for the past month, if they don't care its not scopely's fault, thats on the player

[ashen wharf]

because i dont want to

Or anyone that doesnt want to move shouldnt have to either

[south arrow]

Oh no I have to move my base the end is here 🤣

[versed osprey]

they dont, you have the ability and chance not to participate

[warm quest]

What you want is kinda irrelevant.

[lofty isle]

Is there a list where we can see which server we've been matched with?

[reef jasper]

you get plenty of relocation tokens, help me understand why somebody wouldn't want to relocate for a day?

[ashen wharf]

Its not since the shield says and states it will work fully functional anywhere

[hexed kettle]

You guys aren’t quite understanding how casual players play stfc. If you are on this discord, you are not a casual. CASUAL players havent heard about incursions yet, and even if they do, they can very easily miss the part where their shield will drop because they stayed shielded in PJem.

[warm quest]

Not yet. Will most likely be the server you were matched in for the XSLBs.

[ashen wharf]

yall are just trying to suck the event off as per usual

[versed osprey]

they put out an ingame message

[south arrow]

Then they most likely have few rss 🤣

And casual players don’t have 30 shields

[drifting bay]

Why just not make it were everyone chooses to participate? 😂

[plain flint]

Big deal in game news that is not enough notice of losing shield be alot preved players asking for refunds

[ashen wharf]

yall wont like it if it was putting everyone that wants to do it into a pvp server

apparently

pvp servers with like 20 systems, you join you go there

you have your fun pvping

then get sent back

simple

[south arrow]

If you want FarmVille best to start playing it 🤣

[drifting bay]

Sure because everyone is counting on those not knowing or to week just to mess up so they can loot them 🤣

[hexed kettle]

And what little they have will be taken from them. Despite being shielded. A mechanic that has worked this way for years, and worked that way when they popped a 3-day the day before this event launched.

Anyway, this will hurt casuals who are unaware, and wether you think they deserve it for not paying more attention or playing the game more, hurting casuals in not good game planning. Thats all I’m saying. Theres better ways to do this.

[south arrow]

If they aren’t on for over a week then they have nothing to loose

[drifting bay]

Not everyone lives ingame.

[hexed kettle]

… you really think people haven’t popped 7-day shields and gone on vacation? Expecting the shield to last?

[ashen wharf]

lol this guy wants people to live in a game

[south arrow]

It’s still 8 days away so lots of time

[cyan cape]

For us, we are getting the word out NOW. We are reaching out to the other admirals and commodores and doing our best to protect our littles. We cannot fix the willfully obtuse, but we can do what we can to protect casual players who are engaged enough to listen.

[hexed kettle]

👋🏼 pmh

[mental tulip]

I know a guy who plays and is also an off-shore driller. Works out there for 5 days and takes a day on either side to travel. If this starts right at the end of that, he's screwed. As an example.

[ashen wharf]

you dont ever see them do fair bracket pvp with high levels so you already know why they are doing it

😆

[south arrow]

It’s still 8 days away so ur math doesn’t work he will still be on before it start

[ashen wharf]

Same a guy in middle east i know works like that